Revealed: How chip shop scuppered grand plans for £440,000 glass entrance at Bolton Market

Revealed: How chip shop scuppered grand plans for £440,000 glass entrance at Bolton Market

The plans for a grand £440,000 glass entrance to Bolton Market

Pilling's chip shop

Peter McGowan celebrates after the market scraps its plans

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GRAND plans for a £440,000 glass entrance to the revamped Bolton Market had to be scrapped after a fish and chip shop owner refused to budge.

The David and Goliath fight saw Bolton Council offer £40,000 to Pilling’s Fish and Chips to move — later upping the figure to more than £100,000.

But owner Peter McGowan, who suffered a downturn in business while work was carried out on the £4.5 million revamp, remained defiant.

The council eventually mothballed its plans to give the new market a grand entrance in view of the new interchange, currently being built in Great Moor Street — citing increased costs and feedback from traders.

The entrance will now remain at its current site near Moor Lane bus station.

Pilling’s was set up by Mr McGowan’s father-in-law Derek Pilling, who fled to Britain from Guernsey aged five during the Second World War.

The restaurant has been in Bolton since 1968 and had been at its current location, at the corner of Bolton Market, in Black Horse Street, for 16 years.

Mr McGowan said: “All that struggle, 40-odd years of history, would have been gone at a stroke if the council had their way.

“We found out the day before the first meeting when they just came in and gave us two options — to relocate or receive compensation.

“The council essentially announced our shop was no longer going to exist.

“I was staggered when they offered £40,000 as our turnover was quite high at the time.

“I said it should be more like £300,000, which they said they couldn’t afford.

“Eventually we had to employ a solicitor to negotiate with the council. At least they have given us some compensation for loss of earnings.”

A council spokesman said: “When we released the first set of plans, a new entrance on the corner of Black Horse Street and New Street was an option that we considered.

“We decided not to proceed with the new entrance and revised the plans quite early on.

“This was after discussions with traders but more so because the cost of the new entrance was much higher than anticipated.”

Pilling’s was not the only shop affected during the revamp.

Farooq Anwar, owner of Smart Clothing, said: “Our shop crosses over three units, yet they had them divided up on the plans and we had not been told what was going to happen.

“We’ve been here since 1995 so you would have thought we’d have had more communication. Our business has obviously gone down a lot while the work has been going on but they’ve even dragged their feet over compensation.”

A council spokesman added: “We have tried our best to help all of our businesses, including Pilling’s and Smart Clothing, through the disruption.

“Consultation started in November, 2011 and as well as group meetings we have held individual meetings with traders to address any specific concerns.”

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6:35am Thu 30 Jan 14

StGibbs says...

It really doesn't look like that "grand" an entrance, from the drawing.

Good on them for standing up for keeping a bit of Bolton's history and originality. Bit by bit it's all disappearing.
I've never gone into the chippy in question, but will give them a try now.
It really doesn't look like that "grand" an entrance, from the drawing. Good on them for standing up for keeping a bit of Bolton's history and originality. Bit by bit it's all disappearing. I've never gone into the chippy in question, but will give them a try now. StGibbs
  • Score: 45

7:52am Thu 30 Jan 14

Cyclone says...

Move on and get the market moving with the times.
Move on and get the market moving with the times. Cyclone
  • Score: -31

8:11am Thu 30 Jan 14

Balboa says...

Half a million quid on a grand glazed entrance which is out of character and well over the top for such a scheme. Council's architects have had a dizzy spell with all that money they can blow. And the endless cleaning required would be expensive, removing the urine, vomit, dog mess, interchange fumes, etc which is inevitable.
Half a million quid on a grand glazed entrance which is out of character and well over the top for such a scheme. Council's architects have had a dizzy spell with all that money they can blow. And the endless cleaning required would be expensive, removing the urine, vomit, dog mess, interchange fumes, etc which is inevitable. Balboa
  • Score: 58

9:00am Thu 30 Jan 14

Jim271 says...

The money would have been better spent improving the surrounding pavements, wheelchair access and delivery facilities.
The money would have been better spent improving the surrounding pavements, wheelchair access and delivery facilities. Jim271
  • Score: 0

9:05am Thu 30 Jan 14

Gavin SD1 says...

Half a million, yet they have to save money by changing the regular bin collection to once every two weeks. Makes perfect sense, leave your rubbish piling up at home and come and check out the new doors we have wasted your money on.
Half a million, yet they have to save money by changing the regular bin collection to once every two weeks. Makes perfect sense, leave your rubbish piling up at home and come and check out the new doors we have wasted your money on. Gavin SD1
  • Score: 26

9:08am Thu 30 Jan 14

JShepard says...

Thank you Mr McGowan for saving Bolton residents £440,000.

Bolton council had their chance to move with the times and focus on market stalls and smaller shops with a personal service. Instead they choose to compete with the Trafford center and now we have a town that consists of empty shop after empty shop.

Don't worry folks, Bolton council has saved the day by trying to revamp the market hall and free parking. Unfortunately it's 15 years too late.
Thank you Mr McGowan for saving Bolton residents £440,000. Bolton council had their chance to move with the times and focus on market stalls and smaller shops with a personal service. Instead they choose to compete with the Trafford center and now we have a town that consists of empty shop after empty shop. Don't worry folks, Bolton council has saved the day by trying to revamp the market hall and free parking. Unfortunately it's 15 years too late. JShepard
  • Score: 74

9:41am Thu 30 Jan 14

lindlandl says...

Gavin SD1 wrote:
Half a million, yet they have to save money by changing the regular bin collection to once every two weeks. Makes perfect sense, leave your rubbish piling up at home and come and check out the new doors we have wasted your money on.
Why do you want or have to leave your rubbish piling up at home? Do you not put it in the bin outside? In any case the bins are collected every week, just not every bin every week. Or do you think it preferable for all waste to go to landfill for which we are paying exponentially and running out of space. Perhaps you would like a new landfill to open to accommodate your needs. Will you complain if it is near your house?
[quote][p][bold]Gavin SD1[/bold] wrote: Half a million, yet they have to save money by changing the regular bin collection to once every two weeks. Makes perfect sense, leave your rubbish piling up at home and come and check out the new doors we have wasted your money on.[/p][/quote]Why do you want or have to leave your rubbish piling up at home? Do you not put it in the bin outside? In any case the bins are collected every week, just not every bin every week. Or do you think it preferable for all waste to go to landfill for which we are paying exponentially and running out of space. Perhaps you would like a new landfill to open to accommodate your needs. Will you complain if it is near your house? lindlandl
  • Score: -14

9:46am Thu 30 Jan 14

goldie47 says...

well done mr mc gowan for standing up to the labour bully boys who run this council
well done mr mc gowan for standing up to the labour bully boys who run this council goldie47
  • Score: 26

10:07am Thu 30 Jan 14

filthy6 says...

Why did they get comensation for loss of earnings - Did they not want the market to be refurbished?
Why did they get comensation for loss of earnings - Did they not want the market to be refurbished? filthy6
  • Score: -7

10:07am Thu 30 Jan 14

Gavin SD1 says...

lindlandl wrote:
Gavin SD1 wrote:
Half a million, yet they have to save money by changing the regular bin collection to once every two weeks. Makes perfect sense, leave your rubbish piling up at home and come and check out the new doors we have wasted your money on.
Why do you want or have to leave your rubbish piling up at home? Do you not put it in the bin outside? In any case the bins are collected every week, just not every bin every week. Or do you think it preferable for all waste to go to landfill for which we are paying exponentially and running out of space. Perhaps you would like a new landfill to open to accommodate your needs. Will you complain if it is near your house?
I'm so glad you pointed out that the rubbish should go into the bins, of cause the rubbish goes in the bins, but when you have a house full of kids, who eat alot things have to be thrown away. So because the black bins are only collected every two weeks, they get full very quickly and as we know the collectors can't seen to figure out how to take the bag off the top of the bin or at the side of the bin and place it in their van. Council say the rat infestation isn't because of the bins being collected every two weeks, but I didn't see any rats when they were collected every week. So your saying my needs so i'm the only person bothered about the bins being collected every two weeks.
[quote][p][bold]lindlandl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gavin SD1[/bold] wrote: Half a million, yet they have to save money by changing the regular bin collection to once every two weeks. Makes perfect sense, leave your rubbish piling up at home and come and check out the new doors we have wasted your money on.[/p][/quote]Why do you want or have to leave your rubbish piling up at home? Do you not put it in the bin outside? In any case the bins are collected every week, just not every bin every week. Or do you think it preferable for all waste to go to landfill for which we are paying exponentially and running out of space. Perhaps you would like a new landfill to open to accommodate your needs. Will you complain if it is near your house?[/p][/quote]I'm so glad you pointed out that the rubbish should go into the bins, of cause the rubbish goes in the bins, but when you have a house full of kids, who eat alot things have to be thrown away. So because the black bins are only collected every two weeks, they get full very quickly and as we know the collectors can't seen to figure out how to take the bag off the top of the bin or at the side of the bin and place it in their van. Council say the rat infestation isn't because of the bins being collected every two weeks, but I didn't see any rats when they were collected every week. So your saying my needs so i'm the only person bothered about the bins being collected every two weeks. Gavin SD1
  • Score: 5

10:13am Thu 30 Jan 14

MissPeg says...

I think the fish and chip shop owner is overexaggerating a little. The council didn't want the shop to no longer exist, they merely wanted them to find another place to sell fish and chips from. I'm sure they could have found something else, if it had all gone a little smoother and not so last minute.
I think the fish and chip shop owner is overexaggerating a little. The council didn't want the shop to no longer exist, they merely wanted them to find another place to sell fish and chips from. I'm sure they could have found something else, if it had all gone a little smoother and not so last minute. MissPeg
  • Score: -1

10:15am Thu 30 Jan 14

Reed Lover says...

Obviously I sympathise with the Chippy owner's position but are we really allowing one man's resistance to change to block our desperate need for improvement in Bolton Town Centre?
Bolton is in trouble, half a million for a glass front to give the market frontage a more welcoming 21st Century look is peanuts compared to the lost opportunity. Difficult decisions need to be made and that is what we pay these elected officials for. We don't pay them to throw in the towel as soon as they hit major problems and if they aren't up to the task they should step down and let someone who is have a crack.
There is an opportunity to save Bolton and weak men are failing us.
Obviously I sympathise with the Chippy owner's position but are we really allowing one man's resistance to change to block our desperate need for improvement in Bolton Town Centre? Bolton is in trouble, half a million for a glass front to give the market frontage a more welcoming 21st Century look is peanuts compared to the lost opportunity. Difficult decisions need to be made and that is what we pay these elected officials for. We don't pay them to throw in the towel as soon as they hit major problems and if they aren't up to the task they should step down and let someone who is have a crack. There is an opportunity to save Bolton and weak men are failing us. Reed Lover
  • Score: -5

10:21am Thu 30 Jan 14

I, Ludicrous says...

Ha. So Billy Rottenchips was trying to string the Council, and ultimately all of us, along for as much as he could get his greasy hands on and the Council have pulled the rug from under him. How many portions of fish and chips does one have to vend to accrue profit of £100,000?
Ha. So Billy Rottenchips was trying to string the Council, and ultimately all of us, along for as much as he could get his greasy hands on and the Council have pulled the rug from under him. How many portions of fish and chips does one have to vend to accrue profit of £100,000? I, Ludicrous
  • Score: 10

10:26am Thu 30 Jan 14

Gore Seer says...

The New Market Is A Cold Dump With Smelly Fishy Toilets.
The New Market Is A Cold Dump With Smelly Fishy Toilets. Gore Seer
  • Score: 9

10:28am Thu 30 Jan 14

melloj says...

£40K what an insult! Typical council arrogance! I wouldn't jump up and down over 100k either.
£40K what an insult! Typical council arrogance! I wouldn't jump up and down over 100k either. melloj
  • Score: -12

10:42am Thu 30 Jan 14

Wolfie190 says...

Its a market for cheap goods its doesnt need a grand entrance and the council tax payers of Bolton cant afford it. Its a functional building and glad its been left as it is.
Its a market for cheap goods its doesnt need a grand entrance and the council tax payers of Bolton cant afford it. Its a functional building and glad its been left as it is. Wolfie190
  • Score: 30

11:03am Thu 30 Jan 14

Jim271 says...

LMAO, spending £440,00 on a glass front at Bolton Market is like fitting £1000 alloy wheels to a rusty 1978 Ford Contina.

It didn't work with the Market Place, you have make practical improvements on a business premises.

I wonder who would have got the contract to fit the enterance and at £440,000 its over priced, just how much is glass these days,

Which Councillor would have lined his pockets?
LMAO, spending £440,00 on a glass front at Bolton Market is like fitting £1000 alloy wheels to a rusty 1978 Ford Contina. It didn't work with the Market Place, you have make practical improvements on a business premises. I wonder who would have got the contract to fit the enterance and at £440,000 its over priced, just how much is glass these days, Which Councillor would have lined his pockets? Jim271
  • Score: 35

11:18am Thu 30 Jan 14

steveG says...

State control has little place in a free and democratic society.

Then again we are not a free or democratic society.
State control has little place in a free and democratic society. Then again we are not a free or democratic society. steveG
  • Score: 9

11:33am Thu 30 Jan 14

atlas123 says...

lindlandl wrote:
Gavin SD1 wrote:
Half a million, yet they have to save money by changing the regular bin collection to once every two weeks. Makes perfect sense, leave your rubbish piling up at home and come and check out the new doors we have wasted your money on.
Why do you want or have to leave your rubbish piling up at home? Do you not put it in the bin outside? In any case the bins are collected every week, just not every bin every week. Or do you think it preferable for all waste to go to landfill for which we are paying exponentially and running out of space. Perhaps you would like a new landfill to open to accommodate your needs. Will you complain if it is near your house?
You now have four bins emptied every two weeks rather than one bin emptied every week...

I make that a 100% increase in bin capacity!!!

By black bin goes out once a month, rarely put anything other than dog poo in it.
[quote][p][bold]lindlandl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gavin SD1[/bold] wrote: Half a million, yet they have to save money by changing the regular bin collection to once every two weeks. Makes perfect sense, leave your rubbish piling up at home and come and check out the new doors we have wasted your money on.[/p][/quote]Why do you want or have to leave your rubbish piling up at home? Do you not put it in the bin outside? In any case the bins are collected every week, just not every bin every week. Or do you think it preferable for all waste to go to landfill for which we are paying exponentially and running out of space. Perhaps you would like a new landfill to open to accommodate your needs. Will you complain if it is near your house?[/p][/quote]You now have four bins emptied every two weeks rather than one bin emptied every week... I make that a 100% increase in bin capacity!!! By black bin goes out once a month, rarely put anything other than dog poo in it. atlas123
  • Score: -3

11:34am Thu 30 Jan 14

Chrome1 says...

MissPeg wrote:
I think the fish and chip shop owner is overexaggerating a little. The council didn't want the shop to no longer exist, they merely wanted them to find another place to sell fish and chips from. I'm sure they could have found something else, if it had all gone a little smoother and not so last minute.
Not just exaggerating, but OVER-exaggerating. That must be some exaggerating
[quote][p][bold]MissPeg[/bold] wrote: I think the fish and chip shop owner is overexaggerating a little. The council didn't want the shop to no longer exist, they merely wanted them to find another place to sell fish and chips from. I'm sure they could have found something else, if it had all gone a little smoother and not so last minute.[/p][/quote]Not just exaggerating, but OVER-exaggerating. That must be some exaggerating Chrome1
  • Score: -3

11:57am Thu 30 Jan 14

FreedomOfSpeech1945 says...

Now spend that 440k on improving the surface condition of Bolton's roads!
Now spend that 440k on improving the surface condition of Bolton's roads! FreedomOfSpeech1945
  • Score: 28

12:20pm Thu 30 Jan 14

The Righteous One says...

FreedomOfSpeech1945 wrote:
Now spend that 440k on improving the surface condition of Bolton's roads!
That will cover the cost of 1cm x 1cm pothole - using the CONtractors that Bolton Council use!
[quote][p][bold]FreedomOfSpeech1945[/bold] wrote: Now spend that 440k on improving the surface condition of Bolton's roads![/p][/quote]That will cover the cost of 1cm x 1cm pothole - using the CONtractors that Bolton Council use! The Righteous One
  • Score: 13

12:31pm Thu 30 Jan 14

bleedingobvious says...

Well done.Give the Council Man scraps and pea wet in a bag.
Well done.Give the Council Man scraps and pea wet in a bag. bleedingobvious
  • Score: -4

1:20pm Thu 30 Jan 14

Sickandtiredoffit says...

Grand entrance just like the other Market hall its grand does not make any Money but hey its Grand the Council offices are Grand the Mc Donalds style Bridge Gateway to Bolton is Grand ....................
all the empty shops and the ruined Centre are not Grand .

Half a Million thanks for the saving Mr Chippy Man
Grand entrance just like the other Market hall its grand does not make any Money but hey its Grand the Council offices are Grand the Mc Donalds style Bridge Gateway to Bolton is Grand .................... all the empty shops and the ruined Centre are not Grand . Half a Million thanks for the saving Mr Chippy Man Sickandtiredoffit
  • Score: 20

1:36pm Thu 30 Jan 14

Donkey Stone says...

Cyclone wrote:
Move on and get the market moving with the times.
Just like we did with the Market Place? Markets have always been places full of local character and characters, not some bland carbon copy of every other town.
[quote][p][bold]Cyclone[/bold] wrote: Move on and get the market moving with the times.[/p][/quote]Just like we did with the Market Place? Markets have always been places full of local character and characters, not some bland carbon copy of every other town. Donkey Stone
  • Score: 13

1:55pm Thu 30 Jan 14

filthy6 says...

steveG wrote:
State control has little place in a free and democratic society. Then again we are not a free or democratic society.
Yep - get them kids back up the chimneys & down the mines
[quote][p][bold]steveG[/bold] wrote: State control has little place in a free and democratic society. Then again we are not a free or democratic society.[/p][/quote]Yep - get them kids back up the chimneys & down the mines filthy6
  • Score: 8

3:37pm Thu 30 Jan 14

underwater says...

Saves us having to look at dirty glass doors, no one would have ever cleaned them. So we are better off saving the money. The council will soon find some other rubbish project to waste it on.
Saves us having to look at dirty glass doors, no one would have ever cleaned them. So we are better off saving the money. The council will soon find some other rubbish project to waste it on. underwater
  • Score: -8

4:11pm Thu 30 Jan 14

NOTnewsworthy says...

atlas123 wrote:
lindlandl wrote:
Gavin SD1 wrote:
Half a million, yet they have to save money by changing the regular bin collection to once every two weeks. Makes perfect sense, leave your rubbish piling up at home and come and check out the new doors we have wasted your money on.
Why do you want or have to leave your rubbish piling up at home? Do you not put it in the bin outside? In any case the bins are collected every week, just not every bin every week. Or do you think it preferable for all waste to go to landfill for which we are paying exponentially and running out of space. Perhaps you would like a new landfill to open to accommodate your needs. Will you complain if it is near your house?
You now have four bins emptied every two weeks rather than one bin emptied every week...

I make that a 100% increase in bin capacity!!!

By black bin goes out once a month, rarely put anything other than dog poo in it.
Should dog poo not go in your green bin?
[quote][p][bold]atlas123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lindlandl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gavin SD1[/bold] wrote: Half a million, yet they have to save money by changing the regular bin collection to once every two weeks. Makes perfect sense, leave your rubbish piling up at home and come and check out the new doors we have wasted your money on.[/p][/quote]Why do you want or have to leave your rubbish piling up at home? Do you not put it in the bin outside? In any case the bins are collected every week, just not every bin every week. Or do you think it preferable for all waste to go to landfill for which we are paying exponentially and running out of space. Perhaps you would like a new landfill to open to accommodate your needs. Will you complain if it is near your house?[/p][/quote]You now have four bins emptied every two weeks rather than one bin emptied every week... I make that a 100% increase in bin capacity!!! By black bin goes out once a month, rarely put anything other than dog poo in it.[/p][/quote]Should dog poo not go in your green bin? NOTnewsworthy
  • Score: 13

4:58pm Thu 30 Jan 14

Cyclone says...

Bury markets better anyway. The market died years ago.
Bury markets better anyway. The market died years ago. Cyclone
  • Score: 6

6:50pm Thu 30 Jan 14

sarella says...

So our wonderful council have once again made a mess of things, is there any limit to the money Cliff Morris and his cohorts will waste on their headline grabbing schemes. Bolton is now somewhere I avoid when it comes to shopping it's been ruined, it's Bury for me from now on.
So our wonderful council have once again made a mess of things, is there any limit to the money Cliff Morris and his cohorts will waste on their headline grabbing schemes. Bolton is now somewhere I avoid when it comes to shopping it's been ruined, it's Bury for me from now on. sarella
  • Score: 11

9:09pm Thu 30 Jan 14

I, Ludicrous says...

Anyway, surely, if the council did want to erect this 'glass welcome' to the Market, wouldn't it have been better positioned on the Carr's Pasties corner, rather than yer man's chippy corner? It being the direction in which most people head towards it?!
Anyway, surely, if the council did want to erect this 'glass welcome' to the Market, wouldn't it have been better positioned on the Carr's Pasties corner, rather than yer man's chippy corner? It being the direction in which most people head towards it?! I, Ludicrous
  • Score: 0

9:15pm Thu 30 Jan 14

BWFC71 says...

What makes me laugh, in the report, is that the glass frontage would have been in sight of the new bus station - errr no it wouldn't as Great Moor Street has a bend in it plus there are other buildings in the way such as Olympus chippy!!!!
What makes me laugh, in the report, is that the glass frontage would have been in sight of the new bus station - errr no it wouldn't as Great Moor Street has a bend in it plus there are other buildings in the way such as Olympus chippy!!!! BWFC71
  • Score: -1

9:34pm Thu 30 Jan 14

fatboybwfc says...

Cyclone wrote:
Move on and get the market moving with the times.
well said more people there now more traders smiling again
[quote][p][bold]Cyclone[/bold] wrote: Move on and get the market moving with the times.[/p][/quote]well said more people there now more traders smiling again fatboybwfc
  • Score: -10

9:35pm Thu 30 Jan 14

fatboybwfc says...

StGibbs wrote:
It really doesn't look like that "grand" an entrance, from the drawing.

Good on them for standing up for keeping a bit of Bolton's history and originality. Bit by bit it's all disappearing.
I've never gone into the chippy in question, but will give them a try now.
don't bother
[quote][p][bold]StGibbs[/bold] wrote: It really doesn't look like that "grand" an entrance, from the drawing. Good on them for standing up for keeping a bit of Bolton's history and originality. Bit by bit it's all disappearing. I've never gone into the chippy in question, but will give them a try now.[/p][/quote]don't bother fatboybwfc
  • Score: -19

9:38pm Thu 30 Jan 14

fatboybwfc says...

sarella wrote:
So our wonderful council have once again made a mess of things, is there any limit to the money Cliff Morris and his cohorts will waste on their headline grabbing schemes. Bolton is now somewhere I avoid when it comes to shopping it's been ruined, it's Bury for me from now on.
bury market lots of empty stalls pointless...........
..
[quote][p][bold]sarella[/bold] wrote: So our wonderful council have once again made a mess of things, is there any limit to the money Cliff Morris and his cohorts will waste on their headline grabbing schemes. Bolton is now somewhere I avoid when it comes to shopping it's been ruined, it's Bury for me from now on.[/p][/quote]bury market lots of empty stalls pointless........... .. fatboybwfc
  • Score: -20

12:18am Fri 31 Jan 14

jojogreengolf says...

The quality of food from Bolton Market is very good. Its a shame that this cannot be shown off in a better way. The building is old and dirty with smelly scruffy toilets and small walkways. Everyone struggles to pass with their shopping on a Saturday. I do go to Bolton Market because the quality of fruit and veg is very good and much cheaper than supermarkets, however I don't enjoy it. It is over crowded, the floor is always muddy and wet through and the meat stall on the corner is a nightmare to buy from because there isn't enough room for the customers. It is ridiculous that the Council cannot take a leaf out of the layout of competing markets, as they are cleaner and much more of a pleasure to walk around (Bury). It wouldn't cost much to ammend. Seems like Bolton Council are just the king of councils that love to waste money, our money!
The quality of food from Bolton Market is very good. Its a shame that this cannot be shown off in a better way. The building is old and dirty with smelly scruffy toilets and small walkways. Everyone struggles to pass with their shopping on a Saturday. I do go to Bolton Market because the quality of fruit and veg is very good and much cheaper than supermarkets, however I don't enjoy it. It is over crowded, the floor is always muddy and wet through and the meat stall on the corner is a nightmare to buy from because there isn't enough room for the customers. It is ridiculous that the Council cannot take a leaf out of the layout of competing markets, as they are cleaner and much more of a pleasure to walk around (Bury). It wouldn't cost much to ammend. Seems like Bolton Council are just the king of councils that love to waste money, our money! jojogreengolf
  • Score: -9

11:49am Fri 31 Jan 14

LordLeverhulme says...

Haha. I did wonder what had happened to the amazing "artists impressions".
.
It's not just the glass entrance though. They don't seem to have made any effort to clean the exterior brick/stone work at all. It still looks like a smelly bus-shed from the outside.
£4M down the drains. Who'd have thought it ?
Haha. I did wonder what had happened to the amazing "artists impressions". . It's not just the glass entrance though. They don't seem to have made any effort to clean the exterior brick/stone work at all. It still looks like a smelly bus-shed from the outside. £4M down the drains. Who'd have thought it ? LordLeverhulme
  • Score: -2

11:26am Mon 3 Feb 14

Leyannekt says...

Rubbish market in a rubbish town centre with not enough parking as has always been the case. The so-called revamp won't make me visit any more then the once a year I do now.
When will someone with some vision and creativity be tasked to take on a project such as this?
Rubbish market in a rubbish town centre with not enough parking as has always been the case. The so-called revamp won't make me visit any more then the once a year I do now. When will someone with some vision and creativity be tasked to take on a project such as this? Leyannekt
  • Score: 8

8:33am Tue 4 Feb 14

eatmytruth says...

When it comes to a building being modernised you drag your feet and talk about history culture and heritage. Yet done of the same people go on about how Muslims and Christians need to 'get with the times' and change according to society. I think if the council offer an alternative location and compensation for the inconvenience, then he should take it and allow the progression of our town centre. Drop the ego.
When it comes to a building being modernised you drag your feet and talk about history culture and heritage. Yet done of the same people go on about how Muslims and Christians need to 'get with the times' and change according to society. I think if the council offer an alternative location and compensation for the inconvenience, then he should take it and allow the progression of our town centre. Drop the ego. eatmytruth
  • Score: -8

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