Town centre bar banned from playing music

The Bolton News: Town centre bar banned from playing music Town centre bar banned from playing music

A TOWN centre bar has been banned from playing music.

A high court judge has imposed the ban on Bar Lush, in Bradshawgate, after it was caught playing recorded copyrighted music without an up-to-date licence.

Rosalino Granata, the bar’s occupier, proprietor and premises licence holder, was banned from playing music and ordered to pay £1,604 in legal costs in the next 14 days.

But he claims he was not aware of any legal proceedings or a ban on Bar Lush playing music.

The ban imposed by Mr Justice Newey also extends to any other premises Mr Granata runs until the licences are brought up to date.

Mr Granata said: “We are not aware of any music licensing ban affecting Bar Lush and the information about this is incorrect.

“We believed our music playing to be compliant with all licensing rules and restrictions — and if there was any problem with this we would be the first people to know.”

When The Bolton News visited Bar Lush to speak to Mr Granata, music was being played.

The judge was told Mr Granata was caught after an inspector from music royalties collectors Phonographic Performance Ltd (PPL) visited Bar Lush on November 2, last year, and heard music being played when no licence was in force.

The inspector heard tracks including ‘Wrecking Ball' by Miley Cyrus, 'Marry You' by Bruno Mars and 'Talk Dirty' by Jason Derulo.

In court, PPL’s counsel Ashton Chantrielle said that solicitors had sent letters to the premises informing Mr Granata of the copyright infringement and inviting him to acquire a licence, but there was no response.

The ban applies to all forms of mechanically-recorded music such as records, tapes and CDs.

PPL spokesperson Nazneen Nawaz said: “Public Performance licences are issued by PPL to hundreds of thousands of businesses and organisations from all sectors across the UK who play recorded music to their staff or customers and who therefore require a licence by law.”

Failure to obey the order and turn any premises run into a music-free zone until all licence fees are brought up to date would be regarded as contempt of court, the penalties for which can be fines of up to £10,000 and up to six months prison.

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5:37pm Sun 9 Feb 14

127001 says...

"The inspector heard tracks including ‘Wrecking Ball' by Miley Cyrus, 'Marry You' by Bruno Mars and 'Talk Dirty' by Jason Derulo. "

The ban is well deserved for playing such tripe.
"The inspector heard tracks including ‘Wrecking Ball' by Miley Cyrus, 'Marry You' by Bruno Mars and 'Talk Dirty' by Jason Derulo. " The ban is well deserved for playing such tripe. 127001
  • Score: 52

7:02pm Sun 9 Feb 14

pecky2k says...

PPL and PRS are a joke! I used to have a pub and they asked how many TV's there were, how many speakers, if I had a jukebox, did I have live entertainment, basically anything that could play music. I asked in return how did they distribute the money and they couldn't answer...just another stealth tax!
There was a cafe 2 doors down and they tried stitching him up with as he had a radio in the back that "may" be heard in the shop area.
Read this too as to why you need both PPL and PRS

PPL and PRS for Music are two separate independent companies and in most instances a licence is required from both organisations for you to legally play recorded music in public. While both organisations licence the use of music and collect royalties for the music industry, each represents different rights holders and have separate licences, terms and conditions.

PPL collects and distributes money for the use of recorded music on behalf of record companies and performers. PRS for Music collects and distributes money for the use of the musical composition and lyrics on behalf of authors, songwriters, composers and publishers.

Therefore you are being charged twice.....utter b******s!
PPL and PRS are a joke! I used to have a pub and they asked how many TV's there were, how many speakers, if I had a jukebox, did I have live entertainment, basically anything that could play music. I asked in return how did they distribute the money and they couldn't answer...just another stealth tax! There was a cafe 2 doors down and they tried stitching him up with as he had a radio in the back that "may" be heard in the shop area. Read this too as to why you need both PPL and PRS PPL and PRS for Music are two separate independent companies and in most instances a licence is required from both organisations for you to legally play recorded music in public. While both organisations licence the use of music and collect royalties for the music industry, each represents different rights holders and have separate licences, terms and conditions. PPL collects and distributes money for the use of recorded music on behalf of record companies and performers. PRS for Music collects and distributes money for the use of the musical composition and lyrics on behalf of authors, songwriters, composers and publishers. Therefore you are being charged twice.....utter b******s! pecky2k
  • Score: 15

7:09pm Sun 9 Feb 14

rickyman49 says...

Sounds like he's another dodgy businessman who is trying to avoid obeying the rules and will probablyclaim he never received the letter from PPL.
Sounds like he's another dodgy businessman who is trying to avoid obeying the rules and will probablyclaim he never received the letter from PPL. rickyman49
  • Score: 14

7:30pm Sun 9 Feb 14

melloj says...

Good coz it's all crap anyway. Tell you what I'll send you a copy of my self produced album and you can play that!
Good coz it's all crap anyway. Tell you what I'll send you a copy of my self produced album and you can play that! melloj
  • Score: 8

9:21pm Sun 9 Feb 14

yellowbeaver08 says...

HAVE YOU BOLTON COUNCIL GOT NOTHING BETTER TO DO. "YOU BUNCH OF IDLE PEEPOTS" IT IT ALL YOUR FAULT THAT BARS AND PUBS ARE CLOSING, BECAUSE YOU STOPPED PEOPLE SMOKING IN THEM.
HAVE YOU BOLTON COUNCIL GOT NOTHING BETTER TO DO. "YOU BUNCH OF IDLE PEEPOTS" IT IT ALL YOUR FAULT THAT BARS AND PUBS ARE CLOSING, BECAUSE YOU STOPPED PEOPLE SMOKING IN THEM. yellowbeaver08
  • Score: -26

9:31pm Sun 9 Feb 14

mr.mark.c says...

yellowbeaver08 wrote:
HAVE YOU BOLTON COUNCIL GOT NOTHING BETTER TO DO. "YOU BUNCH OF IDLE PEEPOTS" IT IT ALL YOUR FAULT THAT BARS AND PUBS ARE CLOSING, BECAUSE YOU STOPPED PEOPLE SMOKING IN THEM.
Since when has PPL been Bolton Council, and when did Bolton Council ban smoking ?
I would get your caps lock button fixed and then go and learn to read.
[quote][p][bold]yellowbeaver08[/bold] wrote: HAVE YOU BOLTON COUNCIL GOT NOTHING BETTER TO DO. "YOU BUNCH OF IDLE PEEPOTS" IT IT ALL YOUR FAULT THAT BARS AND PUBS ARE CLOSING, BECAUSE YOU STOPPED PEOPLE SMOKING IN THEM.[/p][/quote]Since when has PPL been Bolton Council, and when did Bolton Council ban smoking ? I would get your caps lock button fixed and then go and learn to read. mr.mark.c
  • Score: 40

10:12pm Sun 9 Feb 14

AndyMorton says...

Who cares towns a **** hole
Who cares towns a **** hole AndyMorton
  • Score: 6

9:07am Mon 10 Feb 14

stereo_world says...

127001 wrote:
"The inspector heard tracks including ‘Wrecking Ball' by Miley Cyrus, 'Marry You' by Bruno Mars and 'Talk Dirty' by Jason Derulo. "

The ban is well deserved for playing such tripe.
Close the comment thread, this is the winner.
[quote][p][bold]127001[/bold] wrote: "The inspector heard tracks including ‘Wrecking Ball' by Miley Cyrus, 'Marry You' by Bruno Mars and 'Talk Dirty' by Jason Derulo. " The ban is well deserved for playing such tripe.[/p][/quote]Close the comment thread, this is the winner. stereo_world
  • Score: 7

9:09am Mon 10 Feb 14

nozza17 says...

rickyman49 wrote:
Sounds like he's another dodgy businessman who is trying to avoid obeying the rules and will probablyclaim he never received the letter from PPL.
He is, after working there on the doors the guy flaunts all licensing laws, wanting us to let people in who a far too drunk becuase the place is empty is just one example. He's ignorant, rude and needs a slap up the side of the head.

Plus he still owes over £4,000 to the last door firm he had on there, he is paying his debts but shows the type of businessman he is when he can't pay his bills on time.

It's empty for a reason, the place is a hole.
[quote][p][bold]rickyman49[/bold] wrote: Sounds like he's another dodgy businessman who is trying to avoid obeying the rules and will probablyclaim he never received the letter from PPL.[/p][/quote]He is, after working there on the doors the guy flaunts all licensing laws, wanting us to let people in who a far too drunk becuase the place is empty is just one example. He's ignorant, rude and needs a slap up the side of the head. Plus he still owes over £4,000 to the last door firm he had on there, he is paying his debts but shows the type of businessman he is when he can't pay his bills on time. It's empty for a reason, the place is a hole. nozza17
  • Score: 11

9:46am Mon 10 Feb 14

Sickandtiredoffit says...

pecky2k wrote:
PPL and PRS are a joke! I used to have a pub and they asked how many TV's there were, how many speakers, if I had a jukebox, did I have live entertainment, basically anything that could play music. I asked in return how did they distribute the money and they couldn't answer...just another stealth tax!
There was a cafe 2 doors down and they tried stitching him up with as he had a radio in the back that "may" be heard in the shop area.
Read this too as to why you need both PPL and PRS

PPL and PRS for Music are two separate independent companies and in most instances a licence is required from both organisations for you to legally play recorded music in public. While both organisations licence the use of music and collect royalties for the music industry, each represents different rights holders and have separate licences, terms and conditions.

PPL collects and distributes money for the use of recorded music on behalf of record companies and performers. PRS for Music collects and distributes money for the use of the musical composition and lyrics on behalf of authors, songwriters, composers and publishers.

Therefore you are being charged twice.....utter b******s!
I think they charge if you play music on your answerphone Ripoff
[quote][p][bold]pecky2k[/bold] wrote: PPL and PRS are a joke! I used to have a pub and they asked how many TV's there were, how many speakers, if I had a jukebox, did I have live entertainment, basically anything that could play music. I asked in return how did they distribute the money and they couldn't answer...just another stealth tax! There was a cafe 2 doors down and they tried stitching him up with as he had a radio in the back that "may" be heard in the shop area. Read this too as to why you need both PPL and PRS PPL and PRS for Music are two separate independent companies and in most instances a licence is required from both organisations for you to legally play recorded music in public. While both organisations licence the use of music and collect royalties for the music industry, each represents different rights holders and have separate licences, terms and conditions. PPL collects and distributes money for the use of recorded music on behalf of record companies and performers. PRS for Music collects and distributes money for the use of the musical composition and lyrics on behalf of authors, songwriters, composers and publishers. Therefore you are being charged twice.....utter b******s![/p][/quote]I think they charge if you play music on your answerphone Ripoff Sickandtiredoffit
  • Score: 1

1:29pm Mon 10 Feb 14

yellowbeaver08 says...

mr.mark.c wrote:
yellowbeaver08 wrote:
HAVE YOU BOLTON COUNCIL GOT NOTHING BETTER TO DO. "YOU BUNCH OF IDLE PEEPOTS" IT IT ALL YOUR FAULT THAT BARS AND PUBS ARE CLOSING, BECAUSE YOU STOPPED PEOPLE SMOKING IN THEM.
Since when has PPL been Bolton Council, and when did Bolton Council ban smoking ?
I would get your caps lock button fixed and then go and learn to read.
Wind your neck in you Retard
[quote][p][bold]mr.mark.c[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]yellowbeaver08[/bold] wrote: HAVE YOU BOLTON COUNCIL GOT NOTHING BETTER TO DO. "YOU BUNCH OF IDLE PEEPOTS" IT IT ALL YOUR FAULT THAT BARS AND PUBS ARE CLOSING, BECAUSE YOU STOPPED PEOPLE SMOKING IN THEM.[/p][/quote]Since when has PPL been Bolton Council, and when did Bolton Council ban smoking ? I would get your caps lock button fixed and then go and learn to read.[/p][/quote]Wind your neck in you Retard yellowbeaver08
  • Score: -3

2:37pm Mon 10 Feb 14

scott.jackson says...

this guy is a complete joke. he is late with his bills but when a tenant of one of his other bars was late by just 8 days paying the rent he went and shut them down. its about time he was shut down once and for all. he is only in this town to get as much money as he can out of the bars, runs them into the ground and closes them leaving massive debts and gets away with it by putting the bars in someone elses name. so they don't chase him for the money. if you ask me he as ruined what used to be a great town to go out in. it's one thing or another with lush. last year someone was raped at the back of the place for god sake. just shut him down once and for all.
this guy is a complete joke. he is late with his bills but when a tenant of one of his other bars was late by just 8 days paying the rent he went and shut them down. its about time he was shut down once and for all. he is only in this town to get as much money as he can out of the bars, runs them into the ground and closes them leaving massive debts and gets away with it by putting the bars in someone elses name. so they don't chase him for the money. if you ask me he as ruined what used to be a great town to go out in. it's one thing or another with lush. last year someone was raped at the back of the place for god sake. just shut him down once and for all. scott.jackson
  • Score: 8

3:28pm Mon 10 Feb 14

whitehorselawyer says...

Bradshaw-gate looks like benidorm bright lights and grease holes selling garb burgers what an hell hole there's more cops and street angels than punters.these bars are an eye sore go classy and who knows Bolton may be a place for a night out like bury Preston Manchester wigan even but not Bolton full of trouble hell hole..
Bradshaw-gate looks like benidorm bright lights and grease holes selling garb burgers what an hell hole there's more cops and street angels than punters.these bars are an eye sore go classy and who knows Bolton may be a place for a night out like bury Preston Manchester wigan even but not Bolton full of trouble hell hole.. whitehorselawyer
  • Score: 6

3:45pm Mon 10 Feb 14

AnnaRad says...

I used to work for pepo (Giuseppe) years ago and i think there's much much bigger concerns going on than PRS or PPL licences.

He has successfully run dubious and dodgy bars for years. As a member of staff i regularly witnessed on a daily basis drug activity and violent situations escalate. Time after time these could have been avoided but like others have said he's that arrogant he always overrides the judgement of the door staff. Especially when it comes to barring people or allowing those on pubwatch back in to the premises. I ceased working for him before the "great fire" of 2011. By then, enough was enough.

I feel sorry for the people who still have to work for him and all id say to them is make sure you write down everything you earn as i had a lot of explaining to do to HMRC when it came to declaring what i had earned whilst working for him.
I used to work for pepo (Giuseppe) years ago and i think there's much much bigger concerns going on than PRS or PPL licences. He has successfully run dubious and dodgy bars for years. As a member of staff i regularly witnessed on a daily basis drug activity and violent situations escalate. Time after time these could have been avoided but like others have said he's that arrogant he always overrides the judgement of the door staff. Especially when it comes to barring people or allowing those on pubwatch back in to the premises. I ceased working for him before the "great fire" of 2011. By then, enough was enough. I feel sorry for the people who still have to work for him and all id say to them is make sure you write down everything you earn as i had a lot of explaining to do to HMRC when it came to declaring what i had earned whilst working for him. AnnaRad
  • Score: 4

4:19pm Mon 10 Feb 14

scott.jackson says...

sooner he moves on the better, but then again just depends how much back handers the authorities are getting for him to of been in the town for so long.
sooner he moves on the better, but then again just depends how much back handers the authorities are getting for him to of been in the town for so long. scott.jackson
  • Score: 3

6:35pm Mon 10 Feb 14

yellowbeaver08 says...

scott.jackson wrote:
this guy is a complete joke. he is late with his bills but when a tenant of one of his other bars was late by just 8 days paying the rent he went and shut them down. its about time he was shut down once and for all. he is only in this town to get as much money as he can out of the bars, runs them into the ground and closes them leaving massive debts and gets away with it by putting the bars in someone elses name. so they don't chase him for the money. if you ask me he as ruined what used to be a great town to go out in. it's one thing or another with lush. last year someone was raped at the back of the place for god sake. just shut him down once and for all.
I bet he had something to do with the fire last year
[quote][p][bold]scott.jackson[/bold] wrote: this guy is a complete joke. he is late with his bills but when a tenant of one of his other bars was late by just 8 days paying the rent he went and shut them down. its about time he was shut down once and for all. he is only in this town to get as much money as he can out of the bars, runs them into the ground and closes them leaving massive debts and gets away with it by putting the bars in someone elses name. so they don't chase him for the money. if you ask me he as ruined what used to be a great town to go out in. it's one thing or another with lush. last year someone was raped at the back of the place for god sake. just shut him down once and for all.[/p][/quote]I bet he had something to do with the fire last year yellowbeaver08
  • Score: 5

7:39pm Mon 10 Feb 14

wsw69 says...

yellowbeaver08 wrote:
HAVE YOU BOLTON COUNCIL GOT NOTHING BETTER TO DO. "YOU BUNCH OF IDLE PEEPOTS" IT IT ALL YOUR FAULT THAT BARS AND PUBS ARE CLOSING, BECAUSE YOU STOPPED PEOPLE SMOKING IN THEM.
You absolute **** !!!!

Get the facts right and better still get some English and Grammar lessons. Looks like you passed by education from your pathetic posting.
[quote][p][bold]yellowbeaver08[/bold] wrote: HAVE YOU BOLTON COUNCIL GOT NOTHING BETTER TO DO. "YOU BUNCH OF IDLE PEEPOTS" IT IT ALL YOUR FAULT THAT BARS AND PUBS ARE CLOSING, BECAUSE YOU STOPPED PEOPLE SMOKING IN THEM.[/p][/quote]You absolute **** !!!! Get the facts right and better still get some English and Grammar lessons. Looks like you passed by education from your pathetic posting. wsw69
  • Score: 3

11:18am Tue 11 Feb 14

bigbob123 says...

I've seen the guy filling up voddy bottles with even cheaper versions, then topping it off with water, the pints are ****, the place stinks and the bar staff can be very arsey depending on what day they've had, its cheap in the daytime for the **** heads, and dear at weekends for the drunk weekend drinkers.
From my point of view the door staff are the only good thing about the place
I've seen the guy filling up voddy bottles with even cheaper versions, then topping it off with water, the pints are ****, the place stinks and the bar staff can be very arsey depending on what day they've had, its cheap in the daytime for the **** heads, and dear at weekends for the drunk weekend drinkers. From my point of view the door staff are the only good thing about the place bigbob123
  • Score: 1

8:35pm Tue 11 Feb 14

boltonnut says...

And we used to think the Wine Lodge was rough in the old days,I bet Aggie Figgins is turning in her grave.
And we used to think the Wine Lodge was rough in the old days,I bet Aggie Figgins is turning in her grave. boltonnut
  • Score: 0

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