Tributes to man who was killed by train in Moor Lane tunnel

The Bolton News: The Moor Lane tunnel where Simon Pues was hit by a train and died The Moor Lane tunnel where Simon Pues was hit by a train and died

TRIBUTES have been paid to a man who died after he was hit by a train.

Simon Pues, aged 48, of Tavistock Road, Bolton, died on Tuesday, February 4, close to Moor Lane tunnel, on the tracks opposite Randolph Street, just a few hundred yards from his home.

He was hit by a train shortly before 7am and died at the scene.

Greater Manchester Police and the North West Ambulance Service attended.

His neighbour, Anthony Peters, aged 50, said: “I used to talk to Simon all the time, but I hadn’t seen him for ages. I’m absolutely shocked.

“Sometimes he was a very talkative person and he could get on with anybody, but he didn’t socialise much with people in the street — he was a bit of a loner. He could get depressed easily and he used to come round to my house when he was feeling down.

“We’re a very close-knit community here, everybody knows everybody, so for something like this to happen is devastating.”

An inquest into Mr Pues’ death was opened and adjourned at Bolton Coroner’s Court, on Tuesday.

Railway lines between Bolton and Preston were blocked while emergency services dealt with the incident.

The train involved was the 6.36am Manchester Airport to Barrow-in-Furness service.

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7:21am Sun 16 Feb 14

alecfranco says...

God Bless & R.I.P. to Mr S. Pue's + Family.. Question:- Why was on he on the train track at that time 06:40am in the morning....
God Bless & R.I.P. to Mr S. Pue's + Family.. Question:- Why was on he on the train track at that time 06:40am in the morning.... alecfranco

10:12am Sun 16 Feb 14

Iluminati says...

So sad. But having somebody walking on tracks at 8.40 in the morning beggars the question if he wanted die, or completey forgot the world around him!! Surely, he must have walked this way on numerous occasions.
So sad. But having somebody walking on tracks at 8.40 in the morning beggars the question if he wanted die, or completey forgot the world around him!! Surely, he must have walked this way on numerous occasions. Iluminati

12:07pm Sun 16 Feb 14

BWFC71 says...

Like I said at the time, and got sshouted down by many. He seems to have taken a cavalier and selfish attitude for his own life and not even thought about anyone else.

Firstly why was he going that direction to the station, and how did he get down onto the track considering the height of the bricked sides (as per the photo) - was he wanting to take his own life or was he taking or short cut (but what shortcut????) or was he wanting to avoid thee ticket inspectors at the station and travel for free (i.e.theft0 when he got to the platforms.

I feel sorry for the train driver involved who wont be driving now and not for at least 3 to 6 months whilst he is on full-paid sick leave and receiving counselling (which is normal for these incidents) or for the train passengers who still have to carry on knowing what has happened, or for his family that have to live with what he did.

All in all a very selfish person and I do NOT feel sorry for him and do not pay my respects for him!
Like I said at the time, and got sshouted down by many. He seems to have taken a cavalier and selfish attitude for his own life and not even thought about anyone else. Firstly why was he going that direction to the station, and how did he get down onto the track considering the height of the bricked sides (as per the photo) - was he wanting to take his own life or was he taking or short cut (but what shortcut????) or was he wanting to avoid thee ticket inspectors at the station and travel for free (i.e.theft0 when he got to the platforms. I feel sorry for the train driver involved who wont be driving now and not for at least 3 to 6 months whilst he is on full-paid sick leave and receiving counselling (which is normal for these incidents) or for the train passengers who still have to carry on knowing what has happened, or for his family that have to live with what he did. All in all a very selfish person and I do NOT feel sorry for him and do not pay my respects for him! BWFC71

12:29pm Sun 16 Feb 14

Barbara44 says...

Looks to me like this man needed help a lot of people like this are being over looked.
Looks to me like this man needed help a lot of people like this are being over looked. Barbara44

12:42pm Sun 16 Feb 14

BWFC71 says...

Barbara44 wrote:
Looks to me like this man needed help a lot of people like this are being over looked.
Maybe, but now its even more people need the help and advice of counsellors after what he did. So instead of 1 person it is now between 10 and 100 people (or even more) affected by what happened and trying to continue as normal as possible and not forgetting what they have witnessed!!!
[quote][p][bold]Barbara44[/bold] wrote: Looks to me like this man needed help a lot of people like this are being over looked.[/p][/quote]Maybe, but now its even more people need the help and advice of counsellors after what he did. So instead of 1 person it is now between 10 and 100 people (or even more) affected by what happened and trying to continue as normal as possible and not forgetting what they have witnessed!!! BWFC71

7:58pm Sun 16 Feb 14

George X says...

BWFC71 wrote:
Barbara44 wrote:
Looks to me like this man needed help a lot of people like this are being over looked.
Maybe, but now its even more people need the help and advice of counsellors after what he did. So instead of 1 person it is now between 10 and 100 people (or even more) affected by what happened and trying to continue as normal as possible and not forgetting what they have witnessed!!!
Has it ever crossed your mind that not everybody thinks the same way as you ? especially someone who is suffering from a mental illness .
Did anybody ever say to you if you've nothing nice to say say nothing at all !!!
[quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Barbara44[/bold] wrote: Looks to me like this man needed help a lot of people like this are being over looked.[/p][/quote]Maybe, but now its even more people need the help and advice of counsellors after what he did. So instead of 1 person it is now between 10 and 100 people (or even more) affected by what happened and trying to continue as normal as possible and not forgetting what they have witnessed!!![/p][/quote]Has it ever crossed your mind that not everybody thinks the same way as you ? especially someone who is suffering from a mental illness . Did anybody ever say to you if you've nothing nice to say say nothing at all !!! George X

9:35pm Sun 16 Feb 14

J1Bean says...

Accident or not, it's a terrible way to die. I feel sorry for him and all the other people who have been drawn into this awful situation
My niece travels that way on the train every day and I would hate for her to have witnessed anything like that
Accident or not, it's a terrible way to die. I feel sorry for him and all the other people who have been drawn into this awful situation My niece travels that way on the train every day and I would hate for her to have witnessed anything like that J1Bean

9:50pm Sun 16 Feb 14

BWFC71 says...

George X wrote:
BWFC71 wrote:
Barbara44 wrote:
Looks to me like this man needed help a lot of people like this are being over looked.
Maybe, but now its even more people need the help and advice of counsellors after what he did. So instead of 1 person it is now between 10 and 100 people (or even more) affected by what happened and trying to continue as normal as possible and not forgetting what they have witnessed!!!
Has it ever crossed your mind that not everybody thinks the same way as you ? especially someone who is suffering from a mental illness .
Did anybody ever say to you if you've nothing nice to say say nothing at all !!!
1. How do you know he had a mental illness?
2. For all we know he was trying to dodge paying his fare!
3. For every action there is a consequence and in this instance many consequencies including a train driver who cannot drive for at least a few months, if ever again!

Say nothing at all - it that somebody else does, then somebody else, then somebody else.... No, its about telling the truth and showing what the consequencies of what his actions have caused. Staying quiet means it is not brought into the open and a such people, with an illness or not, don't realise what can happen with their actions!!!

If you do think someone needs counselling then it is down to you, and other friends and work colleagues, to help them seek help, as 99.9% of the time the exact same people with the illness do not realise that they are ill and carrying on with what they think is normal, whilst slowly sinking into an unknown despair and fully oblivious to it all!!!

But I still have no sympathy as whether ill or not what he did was wrong, no matter what - why walk along the tracks (especially when there are high-sided walls) knowing it could bring the network to a halt or worse, as what happened in this case!
[quote][p][bold]George X[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Barbara44[/bold] wrote: Looks to me like this man needed help a lot of people like this are being over looked.[/p][/quote]Maybe, but now its even more people need the help and advice of counsellors after what he did. So instead of 1 person it is now between 10 and 100 people (or even more) affected by what happened and trying to continue as normal as possible and not forgetting what they have witnessed!!![/p][/quote]Has it ever crossed your mind that not everybody thinks the same way as you ? especially someone who is suffering from a mental illness . Did anybody ever say to you if you've nothing nice to say say nothing at all !!![/p][/quote]1. How do you know he had a mental illness? 2. For all we know he was trying to dodge paying his fare! 3. For every action there is a consequence and in this instance many consequencies including a train driver who cannot drive for at least a few months, if ever again! Say nothing at all - it that somebody else does, then somebody else, then somebody else.... No, its about telling the truth and showing what the consequencies of what his actions have caused. Staying quiet means it is not brought into the open and a such people, with an illness or not, don't realise what can happen with their actions!!! If you do think someone needs counselling then it is down to you, and other friends and work colleagues, to help them seek help, as 99.9% of the time the exact same people with the illness do not realise that they are ill and carrying on with what they think is normal, whilst slowly sinking into an unknown despair and fully oblivious to it all!!! But I still have no sympathy as whether ill or not what he did was wrong, no matter what - why walk along the tracks (especially when there are high-sided walls) knowing it could bring the network to a halt or worse, as what happened in this case! BWFC71

11:17pm Sun 16 Feb 14

Maplins Holiday Camp says...

Is there any reason as to why BWFC71 has been given so many thumbs down when the person has only repeated a couple of their posters in questioning as to why the bloke was on the railway track and yet the other posters have not been given the same number of thumbs down?

If anything I totally agree with what BWFC has said and his reasonings are absolutely spot on.
Is there any reason as to why BWFC71 has been given so many thumbs down when the person has only repeated a couple of their posters in questioning as to why the bloke was on the railway track and yet the other posters have not been given the same number of thumbs down? If anything I totally agree with what BWFC has said and his reasonings are absolutely spot on. Maplins Holiday Camp

12:02am Mon 17 Feb 14

Sagacity says...

I can only unfortunately conclude it was suicide. For what other reason would he have been in the tunnels, the route does not appear to be a shortcut to anywhere or easy to access. The trains at this location go quite slowly and each tunnel used to take double track, now single. He would have therefore heard the train approaching and there would have been enough time and space in the tunnel to avoid it. Maybe he chose the tunnel because in the darkness it would have had less impact on the driver of the train. It is much better to assume this rather than fare dodging which some people think. Mentally ill people are usually too ill to think properly.
The mentally ill are generally not cared for well these days, partly because there are a lot of mentally ill people around and many hours have to be spent with a patient with this type of illness. The NHS simply does not have the resources, and waiting lists for counselling are long.
I can only unfortunately conclude it was suicide. For what other reason would he have been in the tunnels, the route does not appear to be a shortcut to anywhere or easy to access. The trains at this location go quite slowly and each tunnel used to take double track, now single. He would have therefore heard the train approaching and there would have been enough time and space in the tunnel to avoid it. Maybe he chose the tunnel because in the darkness it would have had less impact on the driver of the train. It is much better to assume this rather than fare dodging which some people think. Mentally ill people are usually too ill to think properly. The mentally ill are generally not cared for well these days, partly because there are a lot of mentally ill people around and many hours have to be spent with a patient with this type of illness. The NHS simply does not have the resources, and waiting lists for counselling are long. Sagacity

8:19am Mon 17 Feb 14

George X says...

BWFC71 wrote:
George X wrote:
BWFC71 wrote:
Barbara44 wrote:
Looks to me like this man needed help a lot of people like this are being over looked.
Maybe, but now its even more people need the help and advice of counsellors after what he did. So instead of 1 person it is now between 10 and 100 people (or even more) affected by what happened and trying to continue as normal as possible and not forgetting what they have witnessed!!!
Has it ever crossed your mind that not everybody thinks the same way as you ? especially someone who is suffering from a mental illness .
Did anybody ever say to you if you've nothing nice to say say nothing at all !!!
1. How do you know he had a mental illness?
2. For all we know he was trying to dodge paying his fare!
3. For every action there is a consequence and in this instance many consequencies including a train driver who cannot drive for at least a few months, if ever again!

Say nothing at all - it that somebody else does, then somebody else, then somebody else.... No, its about telling the truth and showing what the consequencies of what his actions have caused. Staying quiet means it is not brought into the open and a such people, with an illness or not, don't realise what can happen with their actions!!!

If you do think someone needs counselling then it is down to you, and other friends and work colleagues, to help them seek help, as 99.9% of the time the exact same people with the illness do not realise that they are ill and carrying on with what they think is normal, whilst slowly sinking into an unknown despair and fully oblivious to it all!!!

But I still have no sympathy as whether ill or not what he did was wrong, no matter what - why walk along the tracks (especially when there are high-sided walls) knowing it could bring the network to a halt or worse, as what happened in this case!
By the way BWFC71 i see some of your alter ego's have resurfaced i.e.
Maplins Holiday Camp
TheRighteousOne
Big Ern
and you are even commenting on your own posts :- SAD>
[quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]George X[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Barbara44[/bold] wrote: Looks to me like this man needed help a lot of people like this are being over looked.[/p][/quote]Maybe, but now its even more people need the help and advice of counsellors after what he did. So instead of 1 person it is now between 10 and 100 people (or even more) affected by what happened and trying to continue as normal as possible and not forgetting what they have witnessed!!![/p][/quote]Has it ever crossed your mind that not everybody thinks the same way as you ? especially someone who is suffering from a mental illness . Did anybody ever say to you if you've nothing nice to say say nothing at all !!![/p][/quote]1. How do you know he had a mental illness? 2. For all we know he was trying to dodge paying his fare! 3. For every action there is a consequence and in this instance many consequencies including a train driver who cannot drive for at least a few months, if ever again! Say nothing at all - it that somebody else does, then somebody else, then somebody else.... No, its about telling the truth and showing what the consequencies of what his actions have caused. Staying quiet means it is not brought into the open and a such people, with an illness or not, don't realise what can happen with their actions!!! If you do think someone needs counselling then it is down to you, and other friends and work colleagues, to help them seek help, as 99.9% of the time the exact same people with the illness do not realise that they are ill and carrying on with what they think is normal, whilst slowly sinking into an unknown despair and fully oblivious to it all!!! But I still have no sympathy as whether ill or not what he did was wrong, no matter what - why walk along the tracks (especially when there are high-sided walls) knowing it could bring the network to a halt or worse, as what happened in this case![/p][/quote]By the way BWFC71 i see some of your alter ego's have resurfaced i.e. Maplins Holiday Camp TheRighteousOne Big Ern and you are even commenting on your own posts :- SAD> George X

10:10am Mon 17 Feb 14

MarkAllRead says...

I too believe it was suicide. At 6.20am, are there even ticket staff working at the station? I doubt it, he could probably walk straight into the station and onto the train without having to walk down the track. Since there's CCTV all over the place, the sight of him walking up onto the station from the tracks is a clear sign of guilt. Nah, this is a suicide.
I too believe it was suicide. At 6.20am, are there even ticket staff working at the station? I doubt it, he could probably walk straight into the station and onto the train without having to walk down the track. Since there's CCTV all over the place, the sight of him walking up onto the station from the tracks is a clear sign of guilt. Nah, this is a suicide. MarkAllRead

12:34pm Mon 17 Feb 14

The Righteous One says...

George X wrote:
BWFC71 wrote:
George X wrote:
BWFC71 wrote:
Barbara44 wrote:
Looks to me like this man needed help a lot of people like this are being over looked.
Maybe, but now its even more people need the help and advice of counsellors after what he did. So instead of 1 person it is now between 10 and 100 people (or even more) affected by what happened and trying to continue as normal as possible and not forgetting what they have witnessed!!!
Has it ever crossed your mind that not everybody thinks the same way as you ? especially someone who is suffering from a mental illness .
Did anybody ever say to you if you've nothing nice to say say nothing at all !!!
1. How do you know he had a mental illness?
2. For all we know he was trying to dodge paying his fare!
3. For every action there is a consequence and in this instance many consequencies including a train driver who cannot drive for at least a few months, if ever again!

Say nothing at all - it that somebody else does, then somebody else, then somebody else.... No, its about telling the truth and showing what the consequencies of what his actions have caused. Staying quiet means it is not brought into the open and a such people, with an illness or not, don't realise what can happen with their actions!!!

If you do think someone needs counselling then it is down to you, and other friends and work colleagues, to help them seek help, as 99.9% of the time the exact same people with the illness do not realise that they are ill and carrying on with what they think is normal, whilst slowly sinking into an unknown despair and fully oblivious to it all!!!

But I still have no sympathy as whether ill or not what he did was wrong, no matter what - why walk along the tracks (especially when there are high-sided walls) knowing it could bring the network to a halt or worse, as what happened in this case!
By the way BWFC71 i see some of your alter ego's have resurfaced i.e.
Maplins Holiday Camp
TheRighteousOne
Big Ern
and you are even commenting on your own posts :- SAD>
Sadkly for you my only other name is BWFC71 - therefore you seem to be sad in thinking that I have more than that - but it does seem that many other people agree with me, which is why you are assuming that all the other names are me!!!

Do you not think that it is actually you that have the wrong way of thinking and not me?

As I keep re-iterating and will continue to do so.... TRO is my daytime one due to the fact that the internet access I use does not allow Facebook and as such cannot lg in using my facebook account, whilst BWFC71 is my facebook log-in.

And never once have I responded to myself as either TRO or BWFC71.

Now if you cannot understand that how about I give you some one on one tuition with regards to IT (My prices are very favourable)
[quote][p][bold]George X[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]George X[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Barbara44[/bold] wrote: Looks to me like this man needed help a lot of people like this are being over looked.[/p][/quote]Maybe, but now its even more people need the help and advice of counsellors after what he did. So instead of 1 person it is now between 10 and 100 people (or even more) affected by what happened and trying to continue as normal as possible and not forgetting what they have witnessed!!![/p][/quote]Has it ever crossed your mind that not everybody thinks the same way as you ? especially someone who is suffering from a mental illness . Did anybody ever say to you if you've nothing nice to say say nothing at all !!![/p][/quote]1. How do you know he had a mental illness? 2. For all we know he was trying to dodge paying his fare! 3. For every action there is a consequence and in this instance many consequencies including a train driver who cannot drive for at least a few months, if ever again! Say nothing at all - it that somebody else does, then somebody else, then somebody else.... No, its about telling the truth and showing what the consequencies of what his actions have caused. Staying quiet means it is not brought into the open and a such people, with an illness or not, don't realise what can happen with their actions!!! If you do think someone needs counselling then it is down to you, and other friends and work colleagues, to help them seek help, as 99.9% of the time the exact same people with the illness do not realise that they are ill and carrying on with what they think is normal, whilst slowly sinking into an unknown despair and fully oblivious to it all!!! But I still have no sympathy as whether ill or not what he did was wrong, no matter what - why walk along the tracks (especially when there are high-sided walls) knowing it could bring the network to a halt or worse, as what happened in this case![/p][/quote]By the way BWFC71 i see some of your alter ego's have resurfaced i.e. Maplins Holiday Camp TheRighteousOne Big Ern and you are even commenting on your own posts :- SAD>[/p][/quote]Sadkly for you my only other name is BWFC71 - therefore you seem to be sad in thinking that I have more than that - but it does seem that many other people agree with me, which is why you are assuming that all the other names are me!!! Do you not think that it is actually you that have the wrong way of thinking and not me? As I keep re-iterating and will continue to do so.... TRO is my daytime one due to the fact that the internet access I use does not allow Facebook and as such cannot lg in using my facebook account, whilst BWFC71 is my facebook log-in. And never once have I responded to myself as either TRO or BWFC71. Now if you cannot understand that how about I give you some one on one tuition with regards to IT (My prices are very favourable) The Righteous One

12:58pm Mon 17 Feb 14

cliff4treasurer says...

Obviously the only place you can express an opinion is on here which leaves me to believe you are a very sad person with not much else going on in your life?
2 accounts on here and an account of facebook says it all about you.
No sympathy for the guy who died either,
Did he deserve to die for trying to dodge his fare ?
If he committed suicide then he deserves my sympathy and until you have walked a mile in someones shoes who has depression (or any other illness) I would be careful about vilifying that person.
What goes round comes round buddy.
Obviously the only place you can express an opinion is on here which leaves me to believe you are a very sad person with not much else going on in your life? 2 accounts on here and an account of facebook says it all about you. No sympathy for the guy who died either, Did he deserve to die for trying to dodge his fare ? If he committed suicide then he deserves my sympathy and until you have walked a mile in someones shoes who has depression (or any other illness) I would be careful about vilifying that person. What goes round comes round buddy. cliff4treasurer

11:55pm Mon 17 Feb 14

BIG ERN says...

George X wrote:
BWFC71 wrote:
George X wrote:
BWFC71 wrote:
Barbara44 wrote:
Looks to me like this man needed help a lot of people like this are being over looked.
Maybe, but now its even more people need the help and advice of counsellors after what he did. So instead of 1 person it is now between 10 and 100 people (or even more) affected by what happened and trying to continue as normal as possible and not forgetting what they have witnessed!!!
Has it ever crossed your mind that not everybody thinks the same way as you ? especially someone who is suffering from a mental illness .
Did anybody ever say to you if you've nothing nice to say say nothing at all !!!
1. How do you know he had a mental illness?
2. For all we know he was trying to dodge paying his fare!
3. For every action there is a consequence and in this instance many consequencies including a train driver who cannot drive for at least a few months, if ever again!

Say nothing at all - it that somebody else does, then somebody else, then somebody else.... No, its about telling the truth and showing what the consequencies of what his actions have caused. Staying quiet means it is not brought into the open and a such people, with an illness or not, don't realise what can happen with their actions!!!

If you do think someone needs counselling then it is down to you, and other friends and work colleagues, to help them seek help, as 99.9% of the time the exact same people with the illness do not realise that they are ill and carrying on with what they think is normal, whilst slowly sinking into an unknown despair and fully oblivious to it all!!!

But I still have no sympathy as whether ill or not what he did was wrong, no matter what - why walk along the tracks (especially when there are high-sided walls) knowing it could bring the network to a halt or worse, as what happened in this case!
By the way BWFC71 i see some of your alter ego's have resurfaced i.e.
Maplins Holiday Camp
TheRighteousOne
Big Ern
and you are even commenting on your own posts :- SAD>
I can verify that BWFC71 and myself are two entirely different people. Yes, I have agreed in the past with some of what BWFC71 has said (Not in this instance though)
Doesn't mean to say he has one of many accounts. What is the point in that?
[quote][p][bold]George X[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]George X[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Barbara44[/bold] wrote: Looks to me like this man needed help a lot of people like this are being over looked.[/p][/quote]Maybe, but now its even more people need the help and advice of counsellors after what he did. So instead of 1 person it is now between 10 and 100 people (or even more) affected by what happened and trying to continue as normal as possible and not forgetting what they have witnessed!!![/p][/quote]Has it ever crossed your mind that not everybody thinks the same way as you ? especially someone who is suffering from a mental illness . Did anybody ever say to you if you've nothing nice to say say nothing at all !!![/p][/quote]1. How do you know he had a mental illness? 2. For all we know he was trying to dodge paying his fare! 3. For every action there is a consequence and in this instance many consequencies including a train driver who cannot drive for at least a few months, if ever again! Say nothing at all - it that somebody else does, then somebody else, then somebody else.... No, its about telling the truth and showing what the consequencies of what his actions have caused. Staying quiet means it is not brought into the open and a such people, with an illness or not, don't realise what can happen with their actions!!! If you do think someone needs counselling then it is down to you, and other friends and work colleagues, to help them seek help, as 99.9% of the time the exact same people with the illness do not realise that they are ill and carrying on with what they think is normal, whilst slowly sinking into an unknown despair and fully oblivious to it all!!! But I still have no sympathy as whether ill or not what he did was wrong, no matter what - why walk along the tracks (especially when there are high-sided walls) knowing it could bring the network to a halt or worse, as what happened in this case![/p][/quote]By the way BWFC71 i see some of your alter ego's have resurfaced i.e. Maplins Holiday Camp TheRighteousOne Big Ern and you are even commenting on your own posts :- SAD>[/p][/quote]I can verify that BWFC71 and myself are two entirely different people. Yes, I have agreed in the past with some of what BWFC71 has said (Not in this instance though) Doesn't mean to say he has one of many accounts. What is the point in that? BIG ERN

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