Charity canopy and Newport Street elephants to be moved

The Bolton News: The elephants in Newport Street The elephants in Newport Street

BOLTON’S charity canopy will be dismantled as part of a £1 million redevelopment of Newport Street, council bosses have confirmed.

And the trio of colourful elephants in Newport Street will also be moving to a different location.

The canopy, which has been used by charities to sell bric-a-brac and fundraise for 30 years, will be taken down and placed in storage this autumn as council bosses look to transform Newport Street into a modern, European-style “boulevard”.

Charity groups have described the news as a blow but council chiefs insist it is vital for the regeneration of the town centre.

Keith Davies, director of development and regeneration at Bolton Council, said: “The council remains committed to supporting local charities as far as is possible and is particularly focused on supporting the charities who use this facility regularly.

“The removal of the charity canopy is part of a much larger redevelopment plan for the town centre, which includes but is not limited to several public realm schemes, a new interchange, a refurbished market and new facilities for young people.”

The scheme is part of a £1.44 million strategy to improve the town centre, which includes repairing and cleaning Victoria Square and repaving the surfaces from Blackhorse Street to Great Moor Street.

All trees, advertising signs and street furniture will be torn up from Newport Street, so that workmen can improve its drainage and resurface the walkway to achieve their vision.


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The improvements will coincide with the building of the new Transport Interchange, and from this week the council will not accept reservations by charities for the canopy past August.

Mr Davies said the authority will write to businesses and every charity which has used the canopy in the past 12 months to ask them whether they would prefer to have a stall in the open market, or a temporary stall on market days in either Octagon Square or by the statue of Fred Dibnah.

The elephants will be relocated to another town centre site, which has yet to be confirmed.

About 40 charities set up stalls at the canopy last year, with animal causes from outside of Bolton using it most regularly.

One charity which has regularly used the canopy is Bradshaw-based Pet Rehome.

Trustee Wendy Cooke said: “We have held sales there since the charity was founded 12 years ago and it has brought in about £3,500 a year for us, which is a significant sum.

“It is devastating to hear that the canopy is closing although not entirely unexpected. If the council has decided this it appears there is nothing we can do — it is a real blow.”

She added that the alternative sites being offered “will not compare” to the canopy, which is “spacious and in a wonderful position”.

The structure was put up in 1984 and was funded by Marks and Spencer, to mark its centenary year.

A report by council officers said Marks and Spencer had been consulted on the plans, and that it understood that the canopy has to go.

In July, 2012, The Albert Halls, which is run by Bolton Council, notified charities and other users of the Centenary Canopy in Victoria Square that they would be moved to a stall on Ashburner Street Outdoor Market from November.

Council bosses later made a U-turn on the decision and allowed charities to continue selling second-hand goods at the canopy.

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10:51am Wed 26 Feb 14

Beyond News Forum says...

The Poll - Not only should the shelter be moved it should be replaced.

As for European Boulevard - That graphic looks nothing of the sort - come on, the council travel enough on our taxes and should know this.
The Poll - Not only should the shelter be moved it should be replaced. As for European Boulevard - That graphic looks nothing of the sort - come on, the council travel enough on our taxes and should know this. Beyond News Forum
  • Score: 15

10:53am Wed 26 Feb 14

FreedomOfSpeech1945 says...

And the council are getting the money from where? Spend the money on our roads, they are a mess!
And the council are getting the money from where? Spend the money on our roads, they are a mess! FreedomOfSpeech1945
  • Score: 46

10:58am Wed 26 Feb 14

LordLeverhulme says...

Completely agree. One minute they're crying poverty and the next, throwing even more money at the town centre. I see the square is currently being repaved... AGAIN.
Meanwhile, the A-roads in and out of the borough crumble.
Completely agree. One minute they're crying poverty and the next, throwing even more money at the town centre. I see the square is currently being repaved... AGAIN. Meanwhile, the A-roads in and out of the borough crumble. LordLeverhulme
  • Score: 43

11:01am Wed 26 Feb 14

LordLeverhulme says...

oh... and....
Remember the artists impression of the new refurbished Market ?
.
Now look at the completed refurbished Market.
.
Nothing like it.
oh... and.... Remember the artists impression of the new refurbished Market ? . Now look at the completed refurbished Market. . Nothing like it. LordLeverhulme
  • Score: 19

11:04am Wed 26 Feb 14

oldjourno says...

Will there be decent shops in our European Boulevard or will it just be a glorified thoroughfare for more 'pound' and charity shops?
Will there be decent shops in our European Boulevard or will it just be a glorified thoroughfare for more 'pound' and charity shops? oldjourno
  • Score: 33

11:14am Wed 26 Feb 14

P_Polly says...

How many changes have their been in the last 20 years!? Any for the better, I think not. Councillors don't need trips to Europe to see what needs to be done ! Lower business rates (except for £1 shops and charity shops) encourage regrowth.
Look at the infrastructure the roads are a disgrace! Our parks are not much better.
How many changes have their been in the last 20 years!? Any for the better, I think not. Councillors don't need trips to Europe to see what needs to be done ! Lower business rates (except for £1 shops and charity shops) encourage regrowth. Look at the infrastructure the roads are a disgrace! Our parks are not much better. P_Polly
  • Score: 18

11:30am Wed 26 Feb 14

MissPeg says...

I know the canopy is important to a lot of people, and I'd hate to see it go...a bit of a spruce up, or rebuild using the elephants as a feature.

But what about the other elephants? They want to move them? From the place where visitors coming into town from the train and a new bus station will see the unique little feature? Those elephants have been in that spot (and their predecessors before them) for a long, long time.
I know the canopy is important to a lot of people, and I'd hate to see it go...a bit of a spruce up, or rebuild using the elephants as a feature. But what about the other elephants? They want to move them? From the place where visitors coming into town from the train and a new bus station will see the unique little feature? Those elephants have been in that spot (and their predecessors before them) for a long, long time. MissPeg
  • Score: 30

11:39am Wed 26 Feb 14

Percy Thrower says...

It's about time we showed these so called leaders of our town that we do not agree with what they have done with our town, at their next meeting wherever it maybe, Guy Fawkes comes to mind.
It's about time we showed these so called leaders of our town that we do not agree with what they have done with our town, at their next meeting wherever it maybe, Guy Fawkes comes to mind. Percy Thrower
  • Score: 25

12:00pm Wed 26 Feb 14

thankfully_not_from_here says...

I think by Bolton council saying the canopy will be in "storage" means it will be sold for scrap metal to fund yet more stupid ideas they think will spruce up the town, at the moment the term "glitter on dog sh!t" comes to mind.....
I think by Bolton council saying the canopy will be in "storage" means it will be sold for scrap metal to fund yet more stupid ideas they think will spruce up the town, at the moment the term "glitter on dog sh!t" comes to mind..... thankfully_not_from_here
  • Score: 24

12:16pm Wed 26 Feb 14

The Righteous One says...

P_Polly wrote:
How many changes have their been in the last 20 years!? Any for the better, I think not. Councillors don't need trips to Europe to see what needs to be done ! Lower business rates (except for £1 shops and charity shops) encourage regrowth.
Look at the infrastructure the roads are a disgrace! Our parks are not much better.
The Council can do NOTHING about the Business Rates as they are set by Central Government and only collected onbehalf of Central Government by Bolton Council who keep none of what they collect.
[quote][p][bold]P_Polly[/bold] wrote: How many changes have their been in the last 20 years!? Any for the better, I think not. Councillors don't need trips to Europe to see what needs to be done ! Lower business rates (except for £1 shops and charity shops) encourage regrowth. Look at the infrastructure the roads are a disgrace! Our parks are not much better.[/p][/quote]The Council can do NOTHING about the Business Rates as they are set by Central Government and only collected onbehalf of Central Government by Bolton Council who keep none of what they collect. The Righteous One
  • Score: -17

12:17pm Wed 26 Feb 14

The Righteous One says...

oldjourno wrote:
Will there be decent shops in our European Boulevard or will it just be a glorified thoroughfare for more 'pound' and charity shops?
That will be for teh private landlords to decide as to who they want as their tenants. Bolton Council can deny certain licences but they cannot stop private landlords from letting to whoever they want!
[quote][p][bold]oldjourno[/bold] wrote: Will there be decent shops in our European Boulevard or will it just be a glorified thoroughfare for more 'pound' and charity shops?[/p][/quote]That will be for teh private landlords to decide as to who they want as their tenants. Bolton Council can deny certain licences but they cannot stop private landlords from letting to whoever they want! The Righteous One
  • Score: -30

12:19pm Wed 26 Feb 14

The Righteous One says...

thankfully_not_from_
here
wrote:
I think by Bolton council saying the canopy will be in "storage" means it will be sold for scrap metal to fund yet more stupid ideas they think will spruce up the town, at the moment the term "glitter on dog sh!t" comes to mind.....
Just like they stored the skeletal head of the T-Rex that was stood proud at teh entrace to the museum and then suddenly disappeared and the Council deny all knowledge of it - yet many of Bolton's residents remember it - or what about the obilisck that once stood in teh small garden next to the courts, at the bottom of Blackhorse Street, which is now emblazoned all over "Welcome to Yorkshire" brochure's because the Council mysertiously sold it to a Yorkshiore counil!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]thankfully_not_from_ here[/bold] wrote: I think by Bolton council saying the canopy will be in "storage" means it will be sold for scrap metal to fund yet more stupid ideas they think will spruce up the town, at the moment the term "glitter on dog sh!t" comes to mind.....[/p][/quote]Just like they stored the skeletal head of the T-Rex that was stood proud at teh entrace to the museum and then suddenly disappeared and the Council deny all knowledge of it - yet many of Bolton's residents remember it - or what about the obilisck that once stood in teh small garden next to the courts, at the bottom of Blackhorse Street, which is now emblazoned all over "Welcome to Yorkshire" brochure's because the Council mysertiously sold it to a Yorkshiore counil!!!!! The Righteous One
  • Score: -38

12:22pm Wed 26 Feb 14

Cheeseware says...

It would spruce Newport St up if they got rid of the winos and glue sniffers. I personally avoid that end of town if possible
It would spruce Newport St up if they got rid of the winos and glue sniffers. I personally avoid that end of town if possible Cheeseware
  • Score: 25

12:22pm Wed 26 Feb 14

The Righteous One says...

LordLeverhulme wrote:
oh... and....
Remember the artists impression of the new refurbished Market ?
.
Now look at the completed refurbished Market.
.
Nothing like it.
Thats because the Council were hoping they could hoodwink the owner of the chippy to sell up and move else-where, which didn't happen and as such the design was changed.

But lets not forget the fiasco that was Nelson Square a supposedly a Euopean style square with table and canopies actually in the sqaure for teh summer months - never happened and now its a complete mess with student accomodation taking over half the square now!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]LordLeverhulme[/bold] wrote: oh... and.... Remember the artists impression of the new refurbished Market ? . Now look at the completed refurbished Market. . Nothing like it.[/p][/quote]Thats because the Council were hoping they could hoodwink the owner of the chippy to sell up and move else-where, which didn't happen and as such the design was changed. But lets not forget the fiasco that was Nelson Square a supposedly a Euopean style square with table and canopies actually in the sqaure for teh summer months - never happened and now its a complete mess with student accomodation taking over half the square now!!!!! The Righteous One
  • Score: -24

12:24pm Wed 26 Feb 14

Cheeseware says...

Also looking at the artists impression there are no bins. So guess where people are going to put their rubbish?????
Also looking at the artists impression there are no bins. So guess where people are going to put their rubbish????? Cheeseware
  • Score: 10

12:28pm Wed 26 Feb 14

davidjb says...

you can make it look like venice if they wanted it'll still be same people in there, you'll have your normal nice boltonians then you'll have the 30 stone woman hogging the stone bench to herself with 8 pasties she bought from a pound shop that's selling gregg's old stock. whacking a couple of trees and a weird bench wont change anything. its the shops and the people that need changing. the shops need to be of a higher standard to stop inviting the permanent jobless and dossers into the town. the people who are hard working or have worked for some time should be the ones who want to go into town and not have to look at the people they are or have paid their taxes to. and ontop of that replacing the paving and the benchs etc is nothing. they need to knock all the shops down on that front and do a complete rebuild. kick the businesses out who are ruining boltons image and surely they won't need compensating, they all have rats running down the back alley and don't have a clean shop front, the artists interpretation shows different shops but they won't replace and rebuild them
you can make it look like venice if they wanted it'll still be same people in there, you'll have your normal nice boltonians then you'll have the 30 stone woman hogging the stone bench to herself with 8 pasties she bought from a pound shop that's selling gregg's old stock. whacking a couple of trees and a weird bench wont change anything. its the shops and the people that need changing. the shops need to be of a higher standard to stop inviting the permanent jobless and dossers into the town. the people who are hard working or have worked for some time should be the ones who want to go into town and not have to look at the people they are or have paid their taxes to. and ontop of that replacing the paving and the benchs etc is nothing. they need to knock all the shops down on that front and do a complete rebuild. kick the businesses out who are ruining boltons image and surely they won't need compensating, they all have rats running down the back alley and don't have a clean shop front, the artists interpretation shows different shops but they won't replace and rebuild them davidjb
  • Score: 18

12:30pm Wed 26 Feb 14

boydell says...

The council are going too far this time having the canopy torn down and the elephants moved.
On the rare occasion when I am in Bolton town center I always make my way to the canopy to purchase second hand books. Hail, rain or snow the stalls are manned by cheerful people who enjoy doing work for their charities. Instead the council agrees to YET another pound shop in the town square, yet gets rid of a local worthwhile cause. I would like to meet face to face with the person/people who first suggested this and I would tell them exactly what I think of them !!!
Once again, because of the bloody town council we are blessed with, another two of Boltons landmarks will bite the dust.. It would be more beneficial if any surplus money that the council gets from the increase in council tax was spent on fixing the fountains and cleaning the green algae from the stone lions and the steps in Victoria Square. The town Hall is a complete disgrace.!
There is no sense in expecting them to spend it on the potholes all over Bolton. Its never on their agenda to do something sensible.
The council are going too far this time having the canopy torn down and the elephants moved. On the rare occasion when I am in Bolton town center I always make my way to the canopy to purchase second hand books. Hail, rain or snow the stalls are manned by cheerful people who enjoy doing work for their charities. Instead the council agrees to YET another pound shop in the town square, yet gets rid of a local worthwhile cause. I would like to meet face to face with the person/people who first suggested this and I would tell them exactly what I think of them !!! Once again, because of the bloody town council we are blessed with, another two of Boltons landmarks will bite the dust.. It would be more beneficial if any surplus money that the council gets from the increase in council tax was spent on fixing the fountains and cleaning the green algae from the stone lions and the steps in Victoria Square. The town Hall is a complete disgrace.! There is no sense in expecting them to spend it on the potholes all over Bolton. Its never on their agenda to do something sensible. boydell
  • Score: 14

12:35pm Wed 26 Feb 14

cliff4treasurer says...

So there you have it, the vote whether to remove the canopy to date is a no
so goodbye canopy then. In future we should all vote opposite what we want and it might happen?
If 80,000 had only voted yes to close the market hall it might still be there.
Does anybody know where This council keeps finding money (lots and lots) of money to do these schemes yet could not find the money to keep animal world open or patch up the roads which in many parts of Bolton are little more than farm tracks now. Get the Tories in soon as!
So there you have it, the vote whether to remove the canopy to date is a no so goodbye canopy then. In future we should all vote opposite what we want and it might happen? If 80,000 had only voted yes to close the market hall it might still be there. Does anybody know where This council keeps finding money (lots and lots) of money to do these schemes yet could not find the money to keep animal world open or patch up the roads which in many parts of Bolton are little more than farm tracks now. Get the Tories in soon as! cliff4treasurer
  • Score: 16

12:37pm Wed 26 Feb 14

The Righteous One says...

MissPeg wrote:
I know the canopy is important to a lot of people, and I'd hate to see it go...a bit of a spruce up, or rebuild using the elephants as a feature.

But what about the other elephants? They want to move them? From the place where visitors coming into town from the train and a new bus station will see the unique little feature? Those elephants have been in that spot (and their predecessors before them) for a long, long time.
For about 20 years, since they last did up Newport Street - as before then all they did was kerb off the old road so that traffic couldn't get through. Before these colourful chappies we did have normal grey elephants there and a a little pavement maze for young children - and lets not forget the pop-up art gallery that was at the bottom end of Newport Street (leading onto Victoria Square) that was there every summer for people to view for free (and buy if they wanted to).
[quote][p][bold]MissPeg[/bold] wrote: I know the canopy is important to a lot of people, and I'd hate to see it go...a bit of a spruce up, or rebuild using the elephants as a feature. But what about the other elephants? They want to move them? From the place where visitors coming into town from the train and a new bus station will see the unique little feature? Those elephants have been in that spot (and their predecessors before them) for a long, long time.[/p][/quote]For about 20 years, since they last did up Newport Street - as before then all they did was kerb off the old road so that traffic couldn't get through. Before these colourful chappies we did have normal grey elephants there and a a little pavement maze for young children - and lets not forget the pop-up art gallery that was at the bottom end of Newport Street (leading onto Victoria Square) that was there every summer for people to view for free (and buy if they wanted to). The Righteous One
  • Score: -16

12:41pm Wed 26 Feb 14

The Righteous One says...

cliff4treasurer wrote:
So there you have it, the vote whether to remove the canopy to date is a no
so goodbye canopy then. In future we should all vote opposite what we want and it might happen?
If 80,000 had only voted yes to close the market hall it might still be there.
Does anybody know where This council keeps finding money (lots and lots) of money to do these schemes yet could not find the money to keep animal world open or patch up the roads which in many parts of Bolton are little more than farm tracks now. Get the Tories in soon as!
The market hall redevlopment was NOT the Bolton Council. They had already sold the Market Hall to the people that owned the Market Place, at the time, and it was those owners that redeveloped the Hall into the ugly monstrocity we have today!!!


As I keep saying they won their lost money back from the collapse of teh Icelandic Bank - it was never reported but the Dutch city I was living in at the time, also got their money back as well (and was reported along with naming other towns and cities that had won - hence I know about Bolton's winfall) - therefore the Council has over £100million in savings which they do not want people to know about!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]cliff4treasurer[/bold] wrote: So there you have it, the vote whether to remove the canopy to date is a no so goodbye canopy then. In future we should all vote opposite what we want and it might happen? If 80,000 had only voted yes to close the market hall it might still be there. Does anybody know where This council keeps finding money (lots and lots) of money to do these schemes yet could not find the money to keep animal world open or patch up the roads which in many parts of Bolton are little more than farm tracks now. Get the Tories in soon as![/p][/quote]The market hall redevlopment was NOT the Bolton Council. They had already sold the Market Hall to the people that owned the Market Place, at the time, and it was those owners that redeveloped the Hall into the ugly monstrocity we have today!!! As I keep saying they won their lost money back from the collapse of teh Icelandic Bank - it was never reported but the Dutch city I was living in at the time, also got their money back as well (and was reported along with naming other towns and cities that had won - hence I know about Bolton's winfall) - therefore the Council has over £100million in savings which they do not want people to know about!!!!! The Righteous One
  • Score: -23

12:41pm Wed 26 Feb 14

lammypie says...

Even more trees to be removed- all the bushes were removed to allow Blackhorse Street to be widened to allow two way traffic ( the lanes are set-out ridiculously by the way!!) then more bushes were removed further down Blackhorse Street / New Street / Great Moor Street as part of the Market improvements- to be replaced by 4 twigs oposite the market chippy- soon there will be no greenery in the Town Centre
Even more trees to be removed- all the bushes were removed to allow Blackhorse Street to be widened to allow two way traffic ( the lanes are set-out ridiculously by the way!!) then more bushes were removed further down Blackhorse Street / New Street / Great Moor Street as part of the Market improvements- to be replaced by 4 twigs oposite the market chippy- soon there will be no greenery in the Town Centre lammypie
  • Score: 9

12:42pm Wed 26 Feb 14

davidjb says...

The Righteous One wrote:
MissPeg wrote:
I know the canopy is important to a lot of people, and I'd hate to see it go...a bit of a spruce up, or rebuild using the elephants as a feature.

But what about the other elephants? They want to move them? From the place where visitors coming into town from the train and a new bus station will see the unique little feature? Those elephants have been in that spot (and their predecessors before them) for a long, long time.
For about 20 years, since they last did up Newport Street - as before then all they did was kerb off the old road so that traffic couldn't get through. Before these colourful chappies we did have normal grey elephants there and a a little pavement maze for young children - and lets not forget the pop-up art gallery that was at the bottom end of Newport Street (leading onto Victoria Square) that was there every summer for people to view for free (and buy if they wanted to).
and we know the elephants had to match up to cultural differences hence the colour change. i thought elephants were grey world wide but bolton council seem very uneducated
[quote][p][bold]The Righteous One[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MissPeg[/bold] wrote: I know the canopy is important to a lot of people, and I'd hate to see it go...a bit of a spruce up, or rebuild using the elephants as a feature. But what about the other elephants? They want to move them? From the place where visitors coming into town from the train and a new bus station will see the unique little feature? Those elephants have been in that spot (and their predecessors before them) for a long, long time.[/p][/quote]For about 20 years, since they last did up Newport Street - as before then all they did was kerb off the old road so that traffic couldn't get through. Before these colourful chappies we did have normal grey elephants there and a a little pavement maze for young children - and lets not forget the pop-up art gallery that was at the bottom end of Newport Street (leading onto Victoria Square) that was there every summer for people to view for free (and buy if they wanted to).[/p][/quote]and we know the elephants had to match up to cultural differences hence the colour change. i thought elephants were grey world wide but bolton council seem very uneducated davidjb
  • Score: 7

12:55pm Wed 26 Feb 14

Anne Crompton, Community Correspondent says...

The Righteous One wrote:
thankfully_not_from_

here
wrote:
I think by Bolton council saying the canopy will be in "storage" means it will be sold for scrap metal to fund yet more stupid ideas they think will spruce up the town, at the moment the term "glitter on dog sh!t" comes to mind.....
Just like they stored the skeletal head of the T-Rex that was stood proud at teh entrace to the museum and then suddenly disappeared and the Council deny all knowledge of it - yet many of Bolton's residents remember it - or what about the obilisck that once stood in teh small garden next to the courts, at the bottom of Blackhorse Street, which is now emblazoned all over "Welcome to Yorkshire" brochure's because the Council mysertiously sold it to a Yorkshiore counil!!!!!
The T-Rex head is at the top of the stairs in the museum on the wall facing the
full skeleton of the other one whose name I forget. Why would you think it is missing????????????
[quote][p][bold]The Righteous One[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thankfully_not_from_ here[/bold] wrote: I think by Bolton council saying the canopy will be in "storage" means it will be sold for scrap metal to fund yet more stupid ideas they think will spruce up the town, at the moment the term "glitter on dog sh!t" comes to mind.....[/p][/quote]Just like they stored the skeletal head of the T-Rex that was stood proud at teh entrace to the museum and then suddenly disappeared and the Council deny all knowledge of it - yet many of Bolton's residents remember it - or what about the obilisck that once stood in teh small garden next to the courts, at the bottom of Blackhorse Street, which is now emblazoned all over "Welcome to Yorkshire" brochure's because the Council mysertiously sold it to a Yorkshiore counil!!!!![/p][/quote]The T-Rex head is at the top of the stairs in the museum on the wall facing the full skeleton of the other one whose name I forget. Why would you think it is missing???????????? Anne Crompton, Community Correspondent
  • Score: 3

12:57pm Wed 26 Feb 14

Albinosupport says...

I am sure that the pound shops, pawn brokers and betting shops, not to mention cheap shoe shops, charity shops and chippy will look fantastic on a 'European Boulevard' don't all 'European Boulevards' have these shops?

Bolton Council you are Craptacular.
I am sure that the pound shops, pawn brokers and betting shops, not to mention cheap shoe shops, charity shops and chippy will look fantastic on a 'European Boulevard' don't all 'European Boulevards' have these shops? Bolton Council you are Craptacular. Albinosupport
  • Score: 13

12:57pm Wed 26 Feb 14

stereo_world says...

I have absolutely zero confidence this will have any effect on Bolton's declining economy.
I have absolutely zero confidence this will have any effect on Bolton's declining economy. stereo_world
  • Score: 11

1:00pm Wed 26 Feb 14

Anne Crompton, Community Correspondent says...

Once again the council cannot do right for doing wrong. Many of you on here complain about the council and some are downright disgustingly rude. However, now they are trying to improve things you still complain. Wait and see what our town looks like after the improvements and then complain in you feel the need. However, sadly, I feel that some folk would complain about it if Bolton ended up with no pound shops (they are everywhere) and no charity shops which are also everywhere.
Once again the council cannot do right for doing wrong. Many of you on here complain about the council and some are downright disgustingly rude. However, now they are trying to improve things you still complain. Wait and see what our town looks like after the improvements and then complain in you feel the need. However, sadly, I feel that some folk would complain about it if Bolton ended up with no pound shops (they are everywhere) and no charity shops which are also everywhere. Anne Crompton, Community Correspondent
  • Score: 0

1:01pm Wed 26 Feb 14

The Righteous One says...

Anne Crompton, Community Correspondent wrote:
The Righteous One wrote:
thankfully_not_from_


here
wrote:
I think by Bolton council saying the canopy will be in "storage" means it will be sold for scrap metal to fund yet more stupid ideas they think will spruce up the town, at the moment the term "glitter on dog sh!t" comes to mind.....
Just like they stored the skeletal head of the T-Rex that was stood proud at teh entrace to the museum and then suddenly disappeared and the Council deny all knowledge of it - yet many of Bolton's residents remember it - or what about the obilisck that once stood in teh small garden next to the courts, at the bottom of Blackhorse Street, which is now emblazoned all over "Welcome to Yorkshire" brochure's because the Council mysertiously sold it to a Yorkshiore counil!!!!!
The T-Rex head is at the top of the stairs in the museum on the wall facing the
full skeleton of the other one whose name I forget. Why would you think it is missing????????????
Well It wasn't there in July of last year and not remember the great T-Rex debate, within the paper about 4 years ago.

Therefore I suspect it is not the same one, an if it is then why did the Council deny all knowledge of only 4 years ago and not display it until recently - and I have vsited the museum, only in March last year and it wasn't there then - I have photogrpahic evidence to say and show it wasn't!
[quote][p][bold]Anne Crompton, Community Correspondent[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Righteous One[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thankfully_not_from_ here[/bold] wrote: I think by Bolton council saying the canopy will be in "storage" means it will be sold for scrap metal to fund yet more stupid ideas they think will spruce up the town, at the moment the term "glitter on dog sh!t" comes to mind.....[/p][/quote]Just like they stored the skeletal head of the T-Rex that was stood proud at teh entrace to the museum and then suddenly disappeared and the Council deny all knowledge of it - yet many of Bolton's residents remember it - or what about the obilisck that once stood in teh small garden next to the courts, at the bottom of Blackhorse Street, which is now emblazoned all over "Welcome to Yorkshire" brochure's because the Council mysertiously sold it to a Yorkshiore counil!!!!![/p][/quote]The T-Rex head is at the top of the stairs in the museum on the wall facing the full skeleton of the other one whose name I forget. Why would you think it is missing????????????[/p][/quote]Well It wasn't there in July of last year and not remember the great T-Rex debate, within the paper about 4 years ago. Therefore I suspect it is not the same one, an if it is then why did the Council deny all knowledge of only 4 years ago and not display it until recently - and I have vsited the museum, only in March last year and it wasn't there then - I have photogrpahic evidence to say and show it wasn't! The Righteous One
  • Score: -42

1:02pm Wed 26 Feb 14

The Righteous One says...

http://www.thebolton
news.co.uk/news/6787
96.The_riddle_of_mis
sing_Rex_rumbles_on/


Apologies, it was 8 years ago!
http://www.thebolton news.co.uk/news/6787 96.The_riddle_of_mis sing_Rex_rumbles_on/ Apologies, it was 8 years ago! The Righteous One
  • Score: -45

1:09pm Wed 26 Feb 14

Jim271 says...

Do they mean an Eastern European style boulevard,lol
Do they mean an Eastern European style boulevard,lol Jim271
  • Score: 20

1:10pm Wed 26 Feb 14

I, Ludicrous says...

That artist's impression reminds me of Stevenage, And Stevenage, as anyone that's been will surely attest, is a proper 5hithole.
That artist's impression reminds me of Stevenage, And Stevenage, as anyone that's been will surely attest, is a proper 5hithole. I, Ludicrous
  • Score: 14

1:12pm Wed 26 Feb 14

Wolfie190 says...

'£1 million redevelopment of Newport Street,'

Hmmm this should be funny.
'£1 million redevelopment of Newport Street,' Hmmm this should be funny. Wolfie190
  • Score: 10

1:13pm Wed 26 Feb 14

The Righteous One says...

Jim271 wrote:
Do they mean an Eastern European style boulevard,lol
Have you eever seen a Eastern European Boulevard?

I somehow doubt it as they are better than what even Bolton could ever dream about!!!!! ANd yes even teh most concrete city in the east of the continent can do better than our council


One way of making a town look great would be to follow what this city has done (and this city has less people and betetr lifestyle, better transport network etc etc etc)

https://english.alme
re.nl/
[quote][p][bold]Jim271[/bold] wrote: Do they mean an Eastern European style boulevard,lol[/p][/quote]Have you eever seen a Eastern European Boulevard? I somehow doubt it as they are better than what even Bolton could ever dream about!!!!! ANd yes even teh most concrete city in the east of the continent can do better than our council One way of making a town look great would be to follow what this city has done (and this city has less people and betetr lifestyle, better transport network etc etc etc) https://english.alme re.nl/ The Righteous One
  • Score: -66

1:15pm Wed 26 Feb 14

Albinosupport says...

Anne Crompton, Community Correspondent wrote:
Once again the council cannot do right for doing wrong. Many of you on here complain about the council and some are downright disgustingly rude. However, now they are trying to improve things you still complain. Wait and see what our town looks like after the improvements and then complain in you feel the need. However, sadly, I feel that some folk would complain about it if Bolton ended up with no pound shops (they are everywhere) and no charity shops which are also everywhere.
There is nothing wrong with charity shops or pound shops, what I do object to is the area being turned into something it will never be. All that is needed is a good clean up, remove the chewing gum, clean up the benches and shop fronts. It just seems that money could be better spent repairing pot holes in our roads and improving the pavements, some of the pavements in Bolton are a disgrace and very difficult for the disabled and blind to negotiate.
[quote][p][bold]Anne Crompton, Community Correspondent[/bold] wrote: Once again the council cannot do right for doing wrong. Many of you on here complain about the council and some are downright disgustingly rude. However, now they are trying to improve things you still complain. Wait and see what our town looks like after the improvements and then complain in you feel the need. However, sadly, I feel that some folk would complain about it if Bolton ended up with no pound shops (they are everywhere) and no charity shops which are also everywhere.[/p][/quote]There is nothing wrong with charity shops or pound shops, what I do object to is the area being turned into something it will never be. All that is needed is a good clean up, remove the chewing gum, clean up the benches and shop fronts. It just seems that money could be better spent repairing pot holes in our roads and improving the pavements, some of the pavements in Bolton are a disgrace and very difficult for the disabled and blind to negotiate. Albinosupport
  • Score: 10

1:53pm Wed 26 Feb 14

boltonnut says...

Looking at the artist's impression of Newport st.it looks a bit like a Lowry painting.Maybe this is an indication of the way the council are planning the future of Bolton,going back instead of going forward.Perhaps someone should open a shop selling flat caps and clogs?
Looking at the artist's impression of Newport st.it looks a bit like a Lowry painting.Maybe this is an indication of the way the council are planning the future of Bolton,going back instead of going forward.Perhaps someone should open a shop selling flat caps and clogs? boltonnut
  • Score: 7

2:04pm Wed 26 Feb 14

WATOAOW says...

If (please note the if, I know it'll be a success as well as all the nay sayers know it will fail) this redevelopment does prove to be a success, will that stop people also whining about the location of the new interchange? A brand new station dropping you off on the doorstep of a newly developed shopping area?
If (please note the if, I know it'll be a success as well as all the nay sayers know it will fail) this redevelopment does prove to be a success, will that stop people also whining about the location of the new interchange? A brand new station dropping you off on the doorstep of a newly developed shopping area? WATOAOW
  • Score: 2

2:20pm Wed 26 Feb 14

dolly21bolton says...

Presumably on this continental boulevard we will still be having the tacky, out-dated kids rides and roundabouts, sky television's caravan trying to cajole people into having Sky television,and the two hot dog/sausage/hamburge
r trailers. Call me cynical if you like, but I would bet the real reason for disposing of the charity canopy is to make space for yet another trailer selling us yet more fast and fattening food, don't we have enough food shops already? As regards the concrete elephants, I would have no comment as my opinion of them is that I've always considered them an eyesore.

Also the skeleton that stood in the centre of the museum, that the Council deny all knowledge of and seemed to have somehow mislaid, was a mammoth. I know this because as a child I always referred to it as an elephant and as my elders and betters always informed me it was a mammoth not an elephant as I stood there agog looking at it. My last recollection of seeing this would be c1952. Perhaps if they do turn up the skeleton, the catering vans on the town hall square can make it into soup for the Councillors!
Presumably on this continental boulevard we will still be having the tacky, out-dated kids rides and roundabouts, sky television's caravan trying to cajole people into having Sky television,and the two hot dog/sausage/hamburge r trailers. Call me cynical if you like, but I would bet the real reason for disposing of the charity canopy is to make space for yet another trailer selling us yet more fast and fattening food, don't we have enough food shops already? As regards the concrete elephants, I would have no comment as my opinion of them is that I've always considered them an eyesore. Also the skeleton that stood in the centre of the museum, that the Council deny all knowledge of and seemed to have somehow mislaid, was a mammoth. I know this because as a child I always referred to it as an elephant and as my elders and betters always informed me it was a mammoth not an elephant as I stood there agog looking at it. My last recollection of seeing this would be c1952. Perhaps if they do turn up the skeleton, the catering vans on the town hall square can make it into soup for the Councillors! dolly21bolton
  • Score: 5

2:26pm Wed 26 Feb 14

The Righteous One says...

dolly21bolton wrote:
Presumably on this continental boulevard we will still be having the tacky, out-dated kids rides and roundabouts, sky television's caravan trying to cajole people into having Sky television,and the two hot dog/sausage/hamburge

r trailers. Call me cynical if you like, but I would bet the real reason for disposing of the charity canopy is to make space for yet another trailer selling us yet more fast and fattening food, don't we have enough food shops already? As regards the concrete elephants, I would have no comment as my opinion of them is that I've always considered them an eyesore.

Also the skeleton that stood in the centre of the museum, that the Council deny all knowledge of and seemed to have somehow mislaid, was a mammoth. I know this because as a child I always referred to it as an elephant and as my elders and betters always informed me it was a mammoth not an elephant as I stood there agog looking at it. My last recollection of seeing this would be c1952. Perhaps if they do turn up the skeleton, the catering vans on the town hall square can make it into soup for the Councillors!
This may bring back some memoris, Dolly. The following is from a letter that was printed 8 years ago....

"I READ with interest the letters regarding a dinosaur in Bolton Museum.

I am in David Hough's age group, and can say for certain that it was indeed a Tyrannosaurus Rex.

If my memory serves me right, it was assembled around 1970 and replaced the three elephant skulls which progressed in size.

Those were there from my being a child in the 1950s. I remember asking what had happened to the elephant skulls to a members of staff many years ago. He told me they still existed."

B Howarth
[quote][p][bold]dolly21bolton[/bold] wrote: Presumably on this continental boulevard we will still be having the tacky, out-dated kids rides and roundabouts, sky television's caravan trying to cajole people into having Sky television,and the two hot dog/sausage/hamburge r trailers. Call me cynical if you like, but I would bet the real reason for disposing of the charity canopy is to make space for yet another trailer selling us yet more fast and fattening food, don't we have enough food shops already? As regards the concrete elephants, I would have no comment as my opinion of them is that I've always considered them an eyesore. Also the skeleton that stood in the centre of the museum, that the Council deny all knowledge of and seemed to have somehow mislaid, was a mammoth. I know this because as a child I always referred to it as an elephant and as my elders and betters always informed me it was a mammoth not an elephant as I stood there agog looking at it. My last recollection of seeing this would be c1952. Perhaps if they do turn up the skeleton, the catering vans on the town hall square can make it into soup for the Councillors![/p][/quote]This may bring back some memoris, Dolly. The following is from a letter that was printed 8 years ago.... "I READ with interest the letters regarding a dinosaur in Bolton Museum. I am in David Hough's age group, and can say for certain that it was indeed a Tyrannosaurus Rex. If my memory serves me right, it was assembled around 1970 and replaced the three elephant skulls which progressed in size. Those were there from my being a child in the 1950s. I remember asking what had happened to the elephant skulls to a members of staff many years ago. He told me they still existed." B Howarth The Righteous One
  • Score: -45

2:45pm Wed 26 Feb 14

dominoman says...

Give Dougie Freedman a ring, the elephants would be better than the defenders he's got now.
Give Dougie Freedman a ring, the elephants would be better than the defenders he's got now. dominoman
  • Score: 6

2:58pm Wed 26 Feb 14

chris25 says...

LordLeverhulme wrote:
Completely agree. One minute they're crying poverty and the next, throwing even more money at the town centre. I see the square is currently being repaved... AGAIN.
Meanwhile, the A-roads in and out of the borough crumble.
Is it cox and sons who have got the flagging contract again ,Is Mr Cox still on the council .
[quote][p][bold]LordLeverhulme[/bold] wrote: Completely agree. One minute they're crying poverty and the next, throwing even more money at the town centre. I see the square is currently being repaved... AGAIN. Meanwhile, the A-roads in and out of the borough crumble.[/p][/quote]Is it cox and sons who have got the flagging contract again ,Is Mr Cox still on the council . chris25
  • Score: 11

3:15pm Wed 26 Feb 14

LordLeverhulme says...

Anne Crompton, Community Correspondent - I don't know which planet you are living on.
People are rightly outraged that the streets and paths near their homes are literally falling apart.. the council complains it has very little money to fix this... and yet every few months seems to find millions to re-do yet another part of the town centre... again.
.
Not hard to see why people aren't too enthusiastic
Anne Crompton, Community Correspondent - I don't know which planet you are living on. People are rightly outraged that the streets and paths near their homes are literally falling apart.. the council complains it has very little money to fix this... and yet every few months seems to find millions to re-do yet another part of the town centre... again. . Not hard to see why people aren't too enthusiastic LordLeverhulme
  • Score: 8

3:18pm Wed 26 Feb 14

Anne Crompton, Community Correspondent says...

The Righteous One wrote:
Anne Crompton, Community Correspondent wrote:
The Righteous One wrote:
thankfully_not_from_



here
wrote:
I think by Bolton council saying the canopy will be in "storage" means it will be sold for scrap metal to fund yet more stupid ideas they think will spruce up the town, at the moment the term "glitter on dog sh!t" comes to mind.....
Just like they stored the skeletal head of the T-Rex that was stood proud at teh entrace to the museum and then suddenly disappeared and the Council deny all knowledge of it - yet many of Bolton's residents remember it - or what about the obilisck that once stood in teh small garden next to the courts, at the bottom of Blackhorse Street, which is now emblazoned all over "Welcome to Yorkshire" brochure's because the Council mysertiously sold it to a Yorkshiore counil!!!!!
The T-Rex head is at the top of the stairs in the museum on the wall facing the
full skeleton of the other one whose name I forget. Why would you think it is missing????????????
Well It wasn't there in July of last year and not remember the great T-Rex debate, within the paper about 4 years ago.

Therefore I suspect it is not the same one, an if it is then why did the Council deny all knowledge of only 4 years ago and not display it until recently - and I have vsited the museum, only in March last year and it wasn't there then - I have photogrpahic evidence to say and show it wasn't!
I am a regular visitor to the museum and have been since 2007 and it has always been where I described it. It clearly states that it is the T-Rex. I can't think who would deny it's existence when it clearly does exist or who denied it. There have been a few management changes but as I said it has always been there for the last 6 and a half years. I do remember a bison that used to be at the top end of the main museum and which is no longer there. I don't know about the debate, I will check the BN archive.
[quote][p][bold]The Righteous One[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Anne Crompton, Community Correspondent[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Righteous One[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thankfully_not_from_ here[/bold] wrote: I think by Bolton council saying the canopy will be in "storage" means it will be sold for scrap metal to fund yet more stupid ideas they think will spruce up the town, at the moment the term "glitter on dog sh!t" comes to mind.....[/p][/quote]Just like they stored the skeletal head of the T-Rex that was stood proud at teh entrace to the museum and then suddenly disappeared and the Council deny all knowledge of it - yet many of Bolton's residents remember it - or what about the obilisck that once stood in teh small garden next to the courts, at the bottom of Blackhorse Street, which is now emblazoned all over "Welcome to Yorkshire" brochure's because the Council mysertiously sold it to a Yorkshiore counil!!!!![/p][/quote]The T-Rex head is at the top of the stairs in the museum on the wall facing the full skeleton of the other one whose name I forget. Why would you think it is missing????????????[/p][/quote]Well It wasn't there in July of last year and not remember the great T-Rex debate, within the paper about 4 years ago. Therefore I suspect it is not the same one, an if it is then why did the Council deny all knowledge of only 4 years ago and not display it until recently - and I have vsited the museum, only in March last year and it wasn't there then - I have photogrpahic evidence to say and show it wasn't![/p][/quote]I am a regular visitor to the museum and have been since 2007 and it has always been where I described it. It clearly states that it is the T-Rex. I can't think who would deny it's existence when it clearly does exist or who denied it. There have been a few management changes but as I said it has always been there for the last 6 and a half years. I do remember a bison that used to be at the top end of the main museum and which is no longer there. I don't know about the debate, I will check the BN archive. Anne Crompton, Community Correspondent
  • Score: 0

3:27pm Wed 26 Feb 14

Anne Crompton, Community Correspondent says...

Anne Crompton, Community Correspondent wrote:
The Righteous One wrote:
Anne Crompton, Community Correspondent wrote:
The Righteous One wrote:
thankfully_not_from_




here
wrote:
I think by Bolton council saying the canopy will be in "storage" means it will be sold for scrap metal to fund yet more stupid ideas they think will spruce up the town, at the moment the term "glitter on dog sh!t" comes to mind.....
Just like they stored the skeletal head of the T-Rex that was stood proud at teh entrace to the museum and then suddenly disappeared and the Council deny all knowledge of it - yet many of Bolton's residents remember it - or what about the obilisck that once stood in teh small garden next to the courts, at the bottom of Blackhorse Street, which is now emblazoned all over "Welcome to Yorkshire" brochure's because the Council mysertiously sold it to a Yorkshiore counil!!!!!
The T-Rex head is at the top of the stairs in the museum on the wall facing the
full skeleton of the other one whose name I forget. Why would you think it is missing????????????
Well It wasn't there in July of last year and not remember the great T-Rex debate, within the paper about 4 years ago.

Therefore I suspect it is not the same one, an if it is then why did the Council deny all knowledge of only 4 years ago and not display it until recently - and I have vsited the museum, only in March last year and it wasn't there then - I have photogrpahic evidence to say and show it wasn't!
I am a regular visitor to the museum and have been since 2007 and it has always been where I described it. It clearly states that it is the T-Rex. I can't think who would deny it's existence when it clearly does exist or who denied it. There have been a few management changes but as I said it has always been there for the last 6 and a half years. I do remember a bison that used to be at the top end of the main museum and which is no longer there. I don't know about the debate, I will check the BN archive.
I have checked and noted that people were remembering back to their childhood etc. One said that there was just a head now (as I said) and wondered where the body was. I checked the museum website and found this link for anyone who is interested. I suspect that the people who wrote a few years ago assumed that the big dinosaur was a T-Rex, there has only ever been a head of this. In actual fact, both dino's are copies of originals and a fund was raised to pay for the big one. There used to be a list of contributors quite near it. Link : http://www.boltonmus
eums.org.uk/museum/m
useum-collection-hig
hlights/geology/dino
saurs
Hope it works, if not highlight, copy, paste should do the trick.
[quote][p][bold]Anne Crompton, Community Correspondent[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Righteous One[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Anne Crompton, Community Correspondent[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Righteous One[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thankfully_not_from_ here[/bold] wrote: I think by Bolton council saying the canopy will be in "storage" means it will be sold for scrap metal to fund yet more stupid ideas they think will spruce up the town, at the moment the term "glitter on dog sh!t" comes to mind.....[/p][/quote]Just like they stored the skeletal head of the T-Rex that was stood proud at teh entrace to the museum and then suddenly disappeared and the Council deny all knowledge of it - yet many of Bolton's residents remember it - or what about the obilisck that once stood in teh small garden next to the courts, at the bottom of Blackhorse Street, which is now emblazoned all over "Welcome to Yorkshire" brochure's because the Council mysertiously sold it to a Yorkshiore counil!!!!![/p][/quote]The T-Rex head is at the top of the stairs in the museum on the wall facing the full skeleton of the other one whose name I forget. Why would you think it is missing????????????[/p][/quote]Well It wasn't there in July of last year and not remember the great T-Rex debate, within the paper about 4 years ago. Therefore I suspect it is not the same one, an if it is then why did the Council deny all knowledge of only 4 years ago and not display it until recently - and I have vsited the museum, only in March last year and it wasn't there then - I have photogrpahic evidence to say and show it wasn't![/p][/quote]I am a regular visitor to the museum and have been since 2007 and it has always been where I described it. It clearly states that it is the T-Rex. I can't think who would deny it's existence when it clearly does exist or who denied it. There have been a few management changes but as I said it has always been there for the last 6 and a half years. I do remember a bison that used to be at the top end of the main museum and which is no longer there. I don't know about the debate, I will check the BN archive.[/p][/quote]I have checked and noted that people were remembering back to their childhood etc. One said that there was just a head now (as I said) and wondered where the body was. I checked the museum website and found this link for anyone who is interested. I suspect that the people who wrote a few years ago assumed that the big dinosaur was a T-Rex, there has only ever been a head of this. In actual fact, both dino's are copies of originals and a fund was raised to pay for the big one. There used to be a list of contributors quite near it. Link : http://www.boltonmus eums.org.uk/museum/m useum-collection-hig hlights/geology/dino saurs Hope it works, if not highlight, copy, paste should do the trick. Anne Crompton, Community Correspondent
  • Score: -2

3:42pm Wed 26 Feb 14

Endoxa says...

This sounds ominously like another blockbuster - "Market Hall - The Sequel". Once completed, I would suggest that Newport Street be renamed "The Chumps Elysees" in honour of our illustrious council leaders. It's bad enough that the Tory government has effectively put the boot into charities but it's scandalous that a Labour council should do the same!
This sounds ominously like another blockbuster - "Market Hall - The Sequel". Once completed, I would suggest that Newport Street be renamed "The Chumps Elysees" in honour of our illustrious council leaders. It's bad enough that the Tory government has effectively put the boot into charities but it's scandalous that a Labour council should do the same! Endoxa
  • Score: 8

4:02pm Wed 26 Feb 14

underwater says...

boydell wrote:
The council are going too far this time having the canopy torn down and the elephants moved.
On the rare occasion when I am in Bolton town center I always make my way to the canopy to purchase second hand books. Hail, rain or snow the stalls are manned by cheerful people who enjoy doing work for their charities. Instead the council agrees to YET another pound shop in the town square, yet gets rid of a local worthwhile cause. I would like to meet face to face with the person/people who first suggested this and I would tell them exactly what I think of them !!!
Once again, because of the bloody town council we are blessed with, another two of Boltons landmarks will bite the dust.. It would be more beneficial if any surplus money that the council gets from the increase in council tax was spent on fixing the fountains and cleaning the green algae from the stone lions and the steps in Victoria Square. The town Hall is a complete disgrace.!
There is no sense in expecting them to spend it on the potholes all over Bolton. Its never on their agenda to do something sensible.
Could you not make your way to the canopy if it was on Bolton Market whenever I catch sight of it I allways think thats where it should be , Its a disgrace and makes Newport Street look worse, if thats at all possible. If the Town caters for the dregs of society thats all its going to get. OK the pound shops are not ideal but you can get a few bargains , as for the pound bakery I would shut that striaght away its just helping with the obesity problem. I would rather wander along Newport Street without any shops at all than the mess it is now.
[quote][p][bold]boydell[/bold] wrote: The council are going too far this time having the canopy torn down and the elephants moved. On the rare occasion when I am in Bolton town center I always make my way to the canopy to purchase second hand books. Hail, rain or snow the stalls are manned by cheerful people who enjoy doing work for their charities. Instead the council agrees to YET another pound shop in the town square, yet gets rid of a local worthwhile cause. I would like to meet face to face with the person/people who first suggested this and I would tell them exactly what I think of them !!! Once again, because of the bloody town council we are blessed with, another two of Boltons landmarks will bite the dust.. It would be more beneficial if any surplus money that the council gets from the increase in council tax was spent on fixing the fountains and cleaning the green algae from the stone lions and the steps in Victoria Square. The town Hall is a complete disgrace.! There is no sense in expecting them to spend it on the potholes all over Bolton. Its never on their agenda to do something sensible.[/p][/quote]Could you not make your way to the canopy if it was on Bolton Market whenever I catch sight of it I allways think thats where it should be , Its a disgrace and makes Newport Street look worse, if thats at all possible. If the Town caters for the dregs of society thats all its going to get. OK the pound shops are not ideal but you can get a few bargains , as for the pound bakery I would shut that striaght away its just helping with the obesity problem. I would rather wander along Newport Street without any shops at all than the mess it is now. underwater
  • Score: -2

4:12pm Wed 26 Feb 14

underwater says...

davidjb wrote:
The Righteous One wrote:
MissPeg wrote:
I know the canopy is important to a lot of people, and I'd hate to see it go...a bit of a spruce up, or rebuild using the elephants as a feature.

But what about the other elephants? They want to move them? From the place where visitors coming into town from the train and a new bus station will see the unique little feature? Those elephants have been in that spot (and their predecessors before them) for a long, long time.
For about 20 years, since they last did up Newport Street - as before then all they did was kerb off the old road so that traffic couldn't get through. Before these colourful chappies we did have normal grey elephants there and a a little pavement maze for young children - and lets not forget the pop-up art gallery that was at the bottom end of Newport Street (leading onto Victoria Square) that was there every summer for people to view for free (and buy if they wanted to).
and we know the elephants had to match up to cultural differences hence the colour change. i thought elephants were grey world wide but bolton council seem very uneducated
Why not put the elephants in the new bus station !
[quote][p][bold]davidjb[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Righteous One[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MissPeg[/bold] wrote: I know the canopy is important to a lot of people, and I'd hate to see it go...a bit of a spruce up, or rebuild using the elephants as a feature. But what about the other elephants? They want to move them? From the place where visitors coming into town from the train and a new bus station will see the unique little feature? Those elephants have been in that spot (and their predecessors before them) for a long, long time.[/p][/quote]For about 20 years, since they last did up Newport Street - as before then all they did was kerb off the old road so that traffic couldn't get through. Before these colourful chappies we did have normal grey elephants there and a a little pavement maze for young children - and lets not forget the pop-up art gallery that was at the bottom end of Newport Street (leading onto Victoria Square) that was there every summer for people to view for free (and buy if they wanted to).[/p][/quote]and we know the elephants had to match up to cultural differences hence the colour change. i thought elephants were grey world wide but bolton council seem very uneducated[/p][/quote]Why not put the elephants in the new bus station ! underwater
  • Score: 2

4:15pm Wed 26 Feb 14

fay clarke says...

Since when does a Boulevard have pound shops and charity shops?
Since when does a Boulevard have pound shops and charity shops? fay clarke
  • Score: 2

4:19pm Wed 26 Feb 14

breightmet kid says...

Bolton never invested in any Icelandic bank.

I think what Councillor Morris is referring to when he states that Newport Street will be made into a European boulevard is that there will be more cafe's and more benches for the loungers and scroungers. We already have the European hordes so lets make them feel at home.

As for the Charity canopy, it competes with all the charity shops, not good for business, and Elephants arent really a European thing. Perhaps we are going to get motorised gondolas or even horse pulling carts with rubber wheels. Or we might have paintings and books sold from stalls like they do on the left bank of the Seine, and we could have Roman legionaire look-a-likes issuing all the fines for littering,

As for Nelson Square perhaps we are going to have an Oktober fest for the students.

Whatever we get it wont be decent shopping areas, good transport links to the outside world, or free parking.
Bolton never invested in any Icelandic bank. I think what Councillor Morris is referring to when he states that Newport Street will be made into a European boulevard is that there will be more cafe's and more benches for the loungers and scroungers. We already have the European hordes so lets make them feel at home. As for the Charity canopy, it competes with all the charity shops, not good for business, and Elephants arent really a European thing. Perhaps we are going to get motorised gondolas or even horse pulling carts with rubber wheels. Or we might have paintings and books sold from stalls like they do on the left bank of the Seine, and we could have Roman legionaire look-a-likes issuing all the fines for littering, As for Nelson Square perhaps we are going to have an Oktober fest for the students. Whatever we get it wont be decent shopping areas, good transport links to the outside world, or free parking. breightmet kid
  • Score: 0

4:21pm Wed 26 Feb 14

suffrinmick says...

At least the artists impression looks fairly realistic. On the far left they've added what looks like a tramp? ;-)
At least the artists impression looks fairly realistic. On the far left they've added what looks like a tramp? ;-) suffrinmick
  • Score: 6

4:22pm Wed 26 Feb 14

underwater says...

LordLeverhulme wrote:
Completely agree. One minute they're crying poverty and the next, throwing even more money at the town centre. I see the square is currently being repaved... AGAIN.
Meanwhile, the A-roads in and out of the borough crumble.
Why do they not take up all the paving /flags /cobbles, or whatever else has been put down because nothing will stay firm and even if any traffic is allowed on it . We could just have dirt paths in the middle of town . Think of the money saved in replacing the above.Cannot look any worse than uneven flags covered in chewing gum and litter.
[quote][p][bold]LordLeverhulme[/bold] wrote: Completely agree. One minute they're crying poverty and the next, throwing even more money at the town centre. I see the square is currently being repaved... AGAIN. Meanwhile, the A-roads in and out of the borough crumble.[/p][/quote]Why do they not take up all the paving /flags /cobbles, or whatever else has been put down because nothing will stay firm and even if any traffic is allowed on it . We could just have dirt paths in the middle of town . Think of the money saved in replacing the above.Cannot look any worse than uneven flags covered in chewing gum and litter. underwater
  • Score: 2

4:22pm Wed 26 Feb 14

John Edwards says...

I think that even Hitler could not have made a better job destroying Bolton as this council have. Wasting money everywhere. Roads closed down, with painted markings, Orlando Bridge and Thynne Street. Moor Lane bus station toilet refurbishment, a few years ago. The market in Ashburner Street has just been modernized and ruined. It's more like a fast food outlet than a market. This council has totally ruined Bolton. It's time people came to their senses and got this council out, it's no good voting for them because "daddy" did. Use your brain if you have one.
I think that even Hitler could not have made a better job destroying Bolton as this council have. Wasting money everywhere. Roads closed down, with painted markings, Orlando Bridge and Thynne Street. Moor Lane bus station toilet refurbishment, a few years ago. The market in Ashburner Street has just been modernized and ruined. It's more like a fast food outlet than a market. This council has totally ruined Bolton. It's time people came to their senses and got this council out, it's no good voting for them because "daddy" did. Use your brain if you have one. John Edwards
  • Score: 9

4:30pm Wed 26 Feb 14

underwater says...

John Edwards wrote:
I think that even Hitler could not have made a better job destroying Bolton as this council have. Wasting money everywhere. Roads closed down, with painted markings, Orlando Bridge and Thynne Street. Moor Lane bus station toilet refurbishment, a few years ago. The market in Ashburner Street has just been modernized and ruined. It's more like a fast food outlet than a market. This council has totally ruined Bolton. It's time people came to their senses and got this council out, it's no good voting for them because "daddy" did. Use your brain if you have one.
Think thats part of the problem Boltonians seem to lack brains . especially around election time, sometimes think we will never manage to get rid of Cliff and his Clowns.
[quote][p][bold]John Edwards[/bold] wrote: I think that even Hitler could not have made a better job destroying Bolton as this council have. Wasting money everywhere. Roads closed down, with painted markings, Orlando Bridge and Thynne Street. Moor Lane bus station toilet refurbishment, a few years ago. The market in Ashburner Street has just been modernized and ruined. It's more like a fast food outlet than a market. This council has totally ruined Bolton. It's time people came to their senses and got this council out, it's no good voting for them because "daddy" did. Use your brain if you have one.[/p][/quote]Think thats part of the problem Boltonians seem to lack brains . especially around election time, sometimes think we will never manage to get rid of Cliff and his Clowns. underwater
  • Score: 8

4:37pm Wed 26 Feb 14

Hulton Park says...

underwater wrote:
davidjb wrote:
The Righteous One wrote:
MissPeg wrote: I know the canopy is important to a lot of people, and I'd hate to see it go...a bit of a spruce up, or rebuild using the elephants as a feature. But what about the other elephants? They want to move them? From the place where visitors coming into town from the train and a new bus station will see the unique little feature? Those elephants have been in that spot (and their predecessors before them) for a long, long time.
For about 20 years, since they last did up Newport Street - as before then all they did was kerb off the old road so that traffic couldn't get through. Before these colourful chappies we did have normal grey elephants there and a a little pavement maze for young children - and lets not forget the pop-up art gallery that was at the bottom end of Newport Street (leading onto Victoria Square) that was there every summer for people to view for free (and buy if they wanted to).
and we know the elephants had to match up to cultural differences hence the colour change. i thought elephants were grey world wide but bolton council seem very uneducated
Why not put the elephants in the new bus station !
In that case, the elephants would have to be painted white.
[quote][p][bold]underwater[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]davidjb[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Righteous One[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MissPeg[/bold] wrote: I know the canopy is important to a lot of people, and I'd hate to see it go...a bit of a spruce up, or rebuild using the elephants as a feature. But what about the other elephants? They want to move them? From the place where visitors coming into town from the train and a new bus station will see the unique little feature? Those elephants have been in that spot (and their predecessors before them) for a long, long time.[/p][/quote]For about 20 years, since they last did up Newport Street - as before then all they did was kerb off the old road so that traffic couldn't get through. Before these colourful chappies we did have normal grey elephants there and a a little pavement maze for young children - and lets not forget the pop-up art gallery that was at the bottom end of Newport Street (leading onto Victoria Square) that was there every summer for people to view for free (and buy if they wanted to).[/p][/quote]and we know the elephants had to match up to cultural differences hence the colour change. i thought elephants were grey world wide but bolton council seem very uneducated[/p][/quote]Why not put the elephants in the new bus station ![/p][/quote]In that case, the elephants would have to be painted white. Hulton Park
  • Score: 3

4:44pm Wed 26 Feb 14

underwater says...

Hulton Park wrote:
underwater wrote:
davidjb wrote:
The Righteous One wrote:
MissPeg wrote: I know the canopy is important to a lot of people, and I'd hate to see it go...a bit of a spruce up, or rebuild using the elephants as a feature. But what about the other elephants? They want to move them? From the place where visitors coming into town from the train and a new bus station will see the unique little feature? Those elephants have been in that spot (and their predecessors before them) for a long, long time.
For about 20 years, since they last did up Newport Street - as before then all they did was kerb off the old road so that traffic couldn't get through. Before these colourful chappies we did have normal grey elephants there and a a little pavement maze for young children - and lets not forget the pop-up art gallery that was at the bottom end of Newport Street (leading onto Victoria Square) that was there every summer for people to view for free (and buy if they wanted to).
and we know the elephants had to match up to cultural differences hence the colour change. i thought elephants were grey world wide but bolton council seem very uneducated
Why not put the elephants in the new bus station !
In that case, the elephants would have to be painted white.
Thats ok they will soon be covered with graffiti.
[quote][p][bold]Hulton Park[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]underwater[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]davidjb[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Righteous One[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MissPeg[/bold] wrote: I know the canopy is important to a lot of people, and I'd hate to see it go...a bit of a spruce up, or rebuild using the elephants as a feature. But what about the other elephants? They want to move them? From the place where visitors coming into town from the train and a new bus station will see the unique little feature? Those elephants have been in that spot (and their predecessors before them) for a long, long time.[/p][/quote]For about 20 years, since they last did up Newport Street - as before then all they did was kerb off the old road so that traffic couldn't get through. Before these colourful chappies we did have normal grey elephants there and a a little pavement maze for young children - and lets not forget the pop-up art gallery that was at the bottom end of Newport Street (leading onto Victoria Square) that was there every summer for people to view for free (and buy if they wanted to).[/p][/quote]and we know the elephants had to match up to cultural differences hence the colour change. i thought elephants were grey world wide but bolton council seem very uneducated[/p][/quote]Why not put the elephants in the new bus station ![/p][/quote]In that case, the elephants would have to be painted white.[/p][/quote]Thats ok they will soon be covered with graffiti. underwater
  • Score: 2

5:57pm Wed 26 Feb 14

Ernagy2 says...

The picture says it all really. Chippy's pound shops and multi coloured elephants. That's why people don't come to Bolton. Reminds me of Piccadilly Plaza Manchester in the 80's. Hope the Boulevard idea works, but along with the 2 cinemas I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't.
The picture says it all really. Chippy's pound shops and multi coloured elephants. That's why people don't come to Bolton. Reminds me of Piccadilly Plaza Manchester in the 80's. Hope the Boulevard idea works, but along with the 2 cinemas I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't. Ernagy2
  • Score: 3

6:10pm Wed 26 Feb 14

Undetectableman says...

My money is on the canopy being pulled down and mysteriously going missing never to be seen again ........ As I said when Morris and his gang tried to get rid of it before has anybody consulted Marks & Spencer .... after all they provided it for the benefit of the town
My money is on the canopy being pulled down and mysteriously going missing never to be seen again ........ As I said when Morris and his gang tried to get rid of it before has anybody consulted Marks & Spencer .... after all they provided it for the benefit of the town Undetectableman
  • Score: 4

9:41pm Wed 26 Feb 14

Lesmathes17 says...

Domino man. Just a thought that David Moyes may pay more for the elephants and reduce our council tax ;)
Domino man. Just a thought that David Moyes may pay more for the elephants and reduce our council tax ;) Lesmathes17
  • Score: 2

9:46pm Wed 26 Feb 14

FreedomOfSpeech1945 says...

I think you'll find that this is in preparation for the Metrolink when it comes to Bolton. You heard it here first ;)
I think you'll find that this is in preparation for the Metrolink when it comes to Bolton. You heard it here first ;) FreedomOfSpeech1945
  • Score: 3

9:59pm Wed 26 Feb 14

Wolfie190 says...

chris25 wrote:
LordLeverhulme wrote:
Completely agree. One minute they're crying poverty and the next, throwing even more money at the town centre. I see the square is currently being repaved... AGAIN.
Meanwhile, the A-roads in and out of the borough crumble.
Is it cox and sons who have got the flagging contract again ,Is Mr Cox still on the council .
I hope you're joking I thought it was complete madness and waste of money flagging Bradshawe gate and Churchgate when they only people who walk along there are drunken people at weekends. What about all the potholes damaging our cars and motorbikes. Our council pride themselves on doing the opposite of what the people want and need.
[quote][p][bold]chris25[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LordLeverhulme[/bold] wrote: Completely agree. One minute they're crying poverty and the next, throwing even more money at the town centre. I see the square is currently being repaved... AGAIN. Meanwhile, the A-roads in and out of the borough crumble.[/p][/quote]Is it cox and sons who have got the flagging contract again ,Is Mr Cox still on the council .[/p][/quote]I hope you're joking I thought it was complete madness and waste of money flagging Bradshawe gate and Churchgate when they only people who walk along there are drunken people at weekends. What about all the potholes damaging our cars and motorbikes. Our council pride themselves on doing the opposite of what the people want and need. Wolfie190
  • Score: 2

8:56am Thu 27 Feb 14

The Righteous One says...

breightmet kid wrote:
Bolton never invested in any Icelandic bank.

I think what Councillor Morris is referring to when he states that Newport Street will be made into a European boulevard is that there will be more cafe's and more benches for the loungers and scroungers. We already have the European hordes so lets make them feel at home.

As for the Charity canopy, it competes with all the charity shops, not good for business, and Elephants arent really a European thing. Perhaps we are going to get motorised gondolas or even horse pulling carts with rubber wheels. Or we might have paintings and books sold from stalls like they do on the left bank of the Seine, and we could have Roman legionaire look-a-likes issuing all the fines for littering,

As for Nelson Square perhaps we are going to have an Oktober fest for the students.

Whatever we get it wont be decent shopping areas, good transport links to the outside world, or free parking.
Yes they did have saving in an Icelandic Bank

http://www.thebolton
news.co.uk/news/4431
898._Three_year_wait
_for_Icelandic_bank_
cash/

It seems to me you have never visisted any European City or the so-called boulevards!!!!! Otherwise you would never have made that comment. In fact what Bolton are proposing is not only being laughed by us born here but also by the people who have moved here (whether it be from other towns, cities or countries - and I know of at least 10 Dutch people who live in the town enever mind Germans (one on the train last night reading Der Spiegel), Poles who came here after the war and during the Cold War etc etc etc) also don't believe it will ever materialise!

You really do not know Bolton - we used to have an open gallery on Victoria Square/Newport Street every summer, not that far diffreent from the Seine, right?

Transport links do not come under the Council 's remit as it is a freemarket, unlike London which has a different law to th erest of teh UK, and as for shops again that doesn't really come under the council remit as the council do not rent out the retail units but private landlords do!!!
[quote][p][bold]breightmet kid[/bold] wrote: Bolton never invested in any Icelandic bank. I think what Councillor Morris is referring to when he states that Newport Street will be made into a European boulevard is that there will be more cafe's and more benches for the loungers and scroungers. We already have the European hordes so lets make them feel at home. As for the Charity canopy, it competes with all the charity shops, not good for business, and Elephants arent really a European thing. Perhaps we are going to get motorised gondolas or even horse pulling carts with rubber wheels. Or we might have paintings and books sold from stalls like they do on the left bank of the Seine, and we could have Roman legionaire look-a-likes issuing all the fines for littering, As for Nelson Square perhaps we are going to have an Oktober fest for the students. Whatever we get it wont be decent shopping areas, good transport links to the outside world, or free parking.[/p][/quote]Yes they did have saving in an Icelandic Bank http://www.thebolton news.co.uk/news/4431 898._Three_year_wait _for_Icelandic_bank_ cash/ It seems to me you have never visisted any European City or the so-called boulevards!!!!! Otherwise you would never have made that comment. In fact what Bolton are proposing is not only being laughed by us born here but also by the people who have moved here (whether it be from other towns, cities or countries - and I know of at least 10 Dutch people who live in the town enever mind Germans (one on the train last night reading Der Spiegel), Poles who came here after the war and during the Cold War etc etc etc) also don't believe it will ever materialise! You really do not know Bolton - we used to have an open gallery on Victoria Square/Newport Street every summer, not that far diffreent from the Seine, right? Transport links do not come under the Council 's remit as it is a freemarket, unlike London which has a different law to th erest of teh UK, and as for shops again that doesn't really come under the council remit as the council do not rent out the retail units but private landlords do!!! The Righteous One
  • Score: 1

9:43am Thu 27 Feb 14

Comment777 says...

Anne Crompton, Community Correspondent wrote:
Once again the council cannot do right for doing wrong. Many of you on here complain about the council and some are downright disgustingly rude. However, now they are trying to improve things you still complain. Wait and see what our town looks like after the improvements and then complain in you feel the need. However, sadly, I feel that some folk would complain about it if Bolton ended up with no pound shops (they are everywhere) and no charity shops which are also everywhere.
Not in Germany they are not, neither have we layabouts and drug takers wandering around. Owner operated shops together with the large chains all taking pride in their premises, the streets and pavements...any Graffita that appears (rarely) is removed within 48 hours...Bolton like many other towns in England is in a disgusting, unsafe and economically depressed state.
I say let it rot along with those who frequent its squalid streets...
[quote][p][bold]Anne Crompton, Community Correspondent[/bold] wrote: Once again the council cannot do right for doing wrong. Many of you on here complain about the council and some are downright disgustingly rude. However, now they are trying to improve things you still complain. Wait and see what our town looks like after the improvements and then complain in you feel the need. However, sadly, I feel that some folk would complain about it if Bolton ended up with no pound shops (they are everywhere) and no charity shops which are also everywhere.[/p][/quote]Not in Germany they are not, neither have we layabouts and drug takers wandering around. Owner operated shops together with the large chains all taking pride in their premises, the streets and pavements...any Graffita that appears (rarely) is removed within 48 hours...Bolton like many other towns in England is in a disgusting, unsafe and economically depressed state. I say let it rot along with those who frequent its squalid streets... Comment777
  • Score: 0

8:03pm Thu 27 Feb 14

Andy Higham says...

This bunch of imbiciles we call a council have no credibility whatsoever. They cry poverty then spend money with seemingly no limit on fripperies, while cutting high profile services.
They shut down the much loved moss bank animal park then spend £500,000 on a new cafe.
£4,500 000 on tarting up the market
God only knows how much on the uneccassary Blackhorse st scheme
£48,000,000 bus stop
Now this half baked idea. I suppose they will use the same crap immitation stone flagstones they used in churchgate. Most of them are now cracked or crumbling.
But they can make political capital out of cutting high profile services by blaming it on government
This bunch of imbiciles we call a council have no credibility whatsoever. They cry poverty then spend money with seemingly no limit on fripperies, while cutting high profile services. They shut down the much loved moss bank animal park then spend £500,000 on a new cafe. £4,500 000 on tarting up the market God only knows how much on the uneccassary Blackhorse st scheme £48,000,000 bus stop Now this half baked idea. I suppose they will use the same crap immitation stone flagstones they used in churchgate. Most of them are now cracked or crumbling. But they can make political capital out of cutting high profile services by blaming it on government Andy Higham
  • Score: 3

9:53pm Thu 27 Feb 14

BWFC71 says...

Andy Higham wrote:
This bunch of imbiciles we call a council have no credibility whatsoever. They cry poverty then spend money with seemingly no limit on fripperies, while cutting high profile services.
They shut down the much loved moss bank animal park then spend £500,000 on a new cafe.
£4,500 000 on tarting up the market
God only knows how much on the uneccassary Blackhorse st scheme
£48,000,000 bus stop
Now this half baked idea. I suppose they will use the same crap immitation stone flagstones they used in churchgate. Most of them are now cracked or crumbling.
But they can make political capital out of cutting high profile services by blaming it on government
Once again the new Bus Station is NOT being financed by Bolton Council. the funds are coming from TIF Fund, from the Government and is being utilised by TfGM - even the CPO's were paid for by TfGM and NOT Bolton Council! All Bolton Council did was to inspect the plan and approve them, unfortunately!

BOLTON BUS STATION IS NOT BOLTON COUNCIL'S FOLLY - BUT THE TfGM'S FOLLY!!!
[quote][p][bold]Andy Higham[/bold] wrote: This bunch of imbiciles we call a council have no credibility whatsoever. They cry poverty then spend money with seemingly no limit on fripperies, while cutting high profile services. They shut down the much loved moss bank animal park then spend £500,000 on a new cafe. £4,500 000 on tarting up the market God only knows how much on the uneccassary Blackhorse st scheme £48,000,000 bus stop Now this half baked idea. I suppose they will use the same crap immitation stone flagstones they used in churchgate. Most of them are now cracked or crumbling. But they can make political capital out of cutting high profile services by blaming it on government[/p][/quote]Once again the new Bus Station is NOT being financed by Bolton Council. the funds are coming from TIF Fund, from the Government and is being utilised by TfGM - even the CPO's were paid for by TfGM and NOT Bolton Council! All Bolton Council did was to inspect the plan and approve them, unfortunately! BOLTON BUS STATION IS NOT BOLTON COUNCIL'S FOLLY - BUT THE TfGM'S FOLLY!!! BWFC71
  • Score: 0

2:36pm Sat 1 Mar 14

dolly21bolton says...

in rely to Mr Howarth regarding the T Rex and various other skeletons, I beg to differ regarding the three elephant skulls - I have no recollection of a T Rex when I was a child but I would not say there wasn't one, I just don't recollect it, but I can assure you that the mammoth skeleton - not elephant as referred to by your good-self - was a full skeleton, presumably not actual bones but possibly a replica, but was life-size and was hung by wires from the ceiling and stood at the bottom of the stairs as you go up into the gallery where there was a various array of stuffed animals and birds. I myself approximately 10 to 12 years ago asked a member of staff what had happened to the aforesaid skeleton and was told that she had no knowledge of it and she had worked in the museum for a number of years. I politely asked to see the Curator and without more ado she turned and within five or six minutes returned with a rather well-built young lady about 25 to 30 years my junior. She most categorically denied all knowledge of this skeleton and I was somewhat miffed by her attitude and told her of my recollections and departed. On returning home I was thinking about this and proceeded to contact old friends and acquaintances to see if they had any recollection of this to satisfy myself that it was not a figment of my imagination. Lo and behold everyone I spoke to DID indeed remember the skeleton. There then seemed to be an upsurge in interest and the Bolton News had many articles in the following weeks with many people remembering as I do. How do you lose a real or imitation, life-sized mammoth skeleton? After all even the best shoplifter would find it difficult to sneak it out under their coat - even a piece at a time! Surely, somebody must know where it is? I would be interested to read anybody else's comments and would love to know if anyone has any photographic evidence.
in rely to Mr Howarth regarding the T Rex and various other skeletons, I beg to differ regarding the three elephant skulls - I have no recollection of a T Rex when I was a child but I would not say there wasn't one, I just don't recollect it, but I can assure you that the mammoth skeleton - not elephant as referred to by your good-self - was a full skeleton, presumably not actual bones but possibly a replica, but was life-size and was hung by wires from the ceiling and stood at the bottom of the stairs as you go up into the gallery where there was a various array of stuffed animals and birds. I myself approximately 10 to 12 years ago asked a member of staff what had happened to the aforesaid skeleton and was told that she had no knowledge of it and she had worked in the museum for a number of years. I politely asked to see the Curator and without more ado she turned and within five or six minutes returned with a rather well-built young lady about 25 to 30 years my junior. She most categorically denied all knowledge of this skeleton and I was somewhat miffed by her attitude and told her of my recollections and departed. On returning home I was thinking about this and proceeded to contact old friends and acquaintances to see if they had any recollection of this to satisfy myself that it was not a figment of my imagination. Lo and behold everyone I spoke to DID indeed remember the skeleton. There then seemed to be an upsurge in interest and the Bolton News had many articles in the following weeks with many people remembering as I do. How do you lose a real or imitation, life-sized mammoth skeleton? After all even the best shoplifter would find it difficult to sneak it out under their coat - even a piece at a time! Surely, somebody must know where it is? I would be interested to read anybody else's comments and would love to know if anyone has any photographic evidence. dolly21bolton
  • Score: 1

12:16pm Sun 2 Mar 14

mark foley says...

European-style “boulevard”. ,THATS ABOUT RIGHT ,COZ THATS ALL THAT WALK UP AND DOWN THERE IS FORIGNERS
European-style “boulevard”. ,THATS ABOUT RIGHT ,COZ THATS ALL THAT WALK UP AND DOWN THERE IS FORIGNERS mark foley
  • Score: -1

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