'Concentration camp' development in Horwich could be decided today

The Bolton News: The site of the proposed development in Cotswold Drive, Horwich, which residents say would look "like a concentration camp" The site of the proposed development in Cotswold Drive, Horwich, which residents say would look "like a concentration camp"

CONTROVERSIAL plans to develop land in Horwich that residents have described as “looking like a concentration camp” will go before Bolton Council’s planning committee today.

An application to build on green belt land in Cotswold Drive has been re-submitted by Kevin and Gillian Gaskell, of Pennine Road, Horwich.

Mr and Mrs Gaskell want to build portal-framed buildings for housing livestock, storing agricultural equipment and stabling horses.

They also want to remove existing timber buildings and construct an area for exercising the horses.

Eleven neighbouring residents have formally objected to the application.

According to a council report, the objectors said the development will cause increased noise from livestock, vehicles and equipment.

In addition, a petition signed by 16 neighbours claimed that the development would mean the public could no longer get on to the site, which used to provide access to Rivington.

However, planning officers have recommended that councillors approve the proposals.

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1:12pm Thu 6 Mar 14

bigbob123 says...

concentration camp? its a friggin cow shed. I've said it before and I'll say it again, Horwich folk just love to moan because they have nothing else better to do.
I have never heard of anyone contesting the building of a cow shed on a farm.
I hope it goes ahead and its built 10 metres high and painted in orange with flashing lights, then you would see the difference between having something to complain about and just being a busy body. Absolute TW#TS Horwich people.
And if it ever does resemble a concentration camp then I hope whoever complains gets sent there for hard labour and the first thing they see is a wrought Iron sign saying 'Arbeit Macht Frei'
concentration camp? its a friggin cow shed. I've said it before and I'll say it again, Horwich folk just love to moan because they have nothing else better to do. I have never heard of anyone contesting the building of a cow shed on a farm. I hope it goes ahead and its built 10 metres high and painted in orange with flashing lights, then you would see the difference between having something to complain about and just being a busy body. Absolute TW#TS Horwich people. And if it ever does resemble a concentration camp then I hope whoever complains gets sent there for hard labour and the first thing they see is a wrought Iron sign saying 'Arbeit Macht Frei' bigbob123
  • Score: -6

1:17pm Thu 6 Mar 14

bigbob123 says...

oh and how much noise do you get from cows and horses? I hope they have a house warming party and hold an illegal rave there for 4 days with lots of ket flying around
oh and how much noise do you get from cows and horses? I hope they have a house warming party and hold an illegal rave there for 4 days with lots of ket flying around bigbob123
  • Score: -7

4:20pm Thu 6 Mar 14

marco999 says...

With all the bitterness he's spouting it's almost as if 'BigBlob123' was the person trying to get the 'development' approved (and who got knocked back in previous attempts)
With all the bitterness he's spouting it's almost as if 'BigBlob123' was the person trying to get the 'development' approved (and who got knocked back in previous attempts) marco999
  • Score: 2

5:09pm Thu 6 Mar 14

bigbob123 says...

marco999 wrote:
With all the bitterness he's spouting it's almost as if 'BigBlob123' was the person trying to get the 'development' approved (and who got knocked back in previous attempts)
haha! I suppose it does look like that, but I'm an Horwich resident that is sick to the teeth of folk complaining, you seen the the stuff on the loco works? residents would rather leave it to rot, rather than see it developed into something that's beneficial to the town.
They complained about the greenwood pub being made into a shop that would benefit residents and got their way, now its a burned down tip.
Crazy horwich folk
[quote][p][bold]marco999[/bold] wrote: With all the bitterness he's spouting it's almost as if 'BigBlob123' was the person trying to get the 'development' approved (and who got knocked back in previous attempts)[/p][/quote]haha! I suppose it does look like that, but I'm an Horwich resident that is sick to the teeth of folk complaining, you seen the the stuff on the loco works? residents would rather leave it to rot, rather than see it developed into something that's beneficial to the town. They complained about the greenwood pub being made into a shop that would benefit residents and got their way, now its a burned down tip. Crazy horwich folk bigbob123
  • Score: 1

8:22pm Thu 6 Mar 14

Horwichisgreen says...

This must be the same Bob Shaftoe again under the name Big Bob. If you hate Horwich folk so much move! You quote raves and flashing lights...how old are you? Ask your parents to move as we Horwich folk don't want to hear your negative whinging comments any more. Move to a more developed area where you will get flashing lights and a pub similar to that of The Greenwood.
This must be the same Bob Shaftoe again under the name Big Bob. If you hate Horwich folk so much move! You quote raves and flashing lights...how old are you? Ask your parents to move as we Horwich folk don't want to hear your negative whinging comments any more. Move to a more developed area where you will get flashing lights and a pub similar to that of The Greenwood. Horwichisgreen
  • Score: 5

10:39am Fri 7 Mar 14

bigbob123 says...

Horwichisgreen wrote:
This must be the same Bob Shaftoe again under the name Big Bob. If you hate Horwich folk so much move! You quote raves and flashing lights...how old are you? Ask your parents to move as we Horwich folk don't want to hear your negative whinging comments any more. Move to a more developed area where you will get flashing lights and a pub similar to that of The Greenwood.
I think you've got the wrong person because my parents live in Wigan and I've never used a different name.
The rave thing was just me taking the mickey out of the noise that cows and horses could cause.
Its a bloody cow shed at the end of the day and one that the owners needed due to losing 4 ewes, anyway the council also decided it was a stupid thing to contest and have since allowed it so bring on the all night Livestock Party!
Any suggestions for the playlist? I propose The house of the rising sun by the Animals or Crazy Horses by the Osmonds
[quote][p][bold]Horwichisgreen[/bold] wrote: This must be the same Bob Shaftoe again under the name Big Bob. If you hate Horwich folk so much move! You quote raves and flashing lights...how old are you? Ask your parents to move as we Horwich folk don't want to hear your negative whinging comments any more. Move to a more developed area where you will get flashing lights and a pub similar to that of The Greenwood.[/p][/quote]I think you've got the wrong person because my parents live in Wigan and I've never used a different name. The rave thing was just me taking the mickey out of the noise that cows and horses could cause. Its a bloody cow shed at the end of the day and one that the owners needed due to losing 4 ewes, anyway the council also decided it was a stupid thing to contest and have since allowed it so bring on the all night Livestock Party! Any suggestions for the playlist? I propose The house of the rising sun by the Animals or Crazy Horses by the Osmonds bigbob123
  • Score: 3

12:55pm Fri 7 Mar 14

Horwichisgreen says...

marco999 wrote:
With all the bitterness he's spouting it's almost as if 'BigBlob123' was the person trying to get the 'development' approved (and who got knocked back in previous attempts)
I think you are right. BigBlob123 seems to know a lot about this case. i have not read anything about the owners losing 4 ewes.
[quote][p][bold]marco999[/bold] wrote: With all the bitterness he's spouting it's almost as if 'BigBlob123' was the person trying to get the 'development' approved (and who got knocked back in previous attempts)[/p][/quote]I think you are right. BigBlob123 seems to know a lot about this case. i have not read anything about the owners losing 4 ewes. Horwichisgreen
  • Score: 1

2:40pm Fri 7 Mar 14

Worktown says...

This farm is literally next to my parents house, where I lived until about 5 years ago. That hill in the back there: we used to sledge/skateboard-bo
bsleigh down it all day. We named it 'Cool Runnings'. It was the 90's. The field this farm occupies was literally empty, and was just grazing grounds for aberrant goats. One day a horse farm came, literally tucked itself behind some hedges, discretely, erected some fences and gained mastery of the fabled goatherd. Of course there was a little more traffic, and yes sometimes they could be inconsiderate when they moved their livestock/equipment, but honestly; much worse crimes out there. Everyone is capable of being inconsiderate at times.

The only potential problem is the fact that the road leading up to it is narrow, and it leads directly onto the intersection of a residential estate, which used to be the spot of the 'show homes': an artificially sculpted piece of landscape that became an informal play area, an attractive green spot, and a natural buffer to the community around it.

Now, the farm is on a slight hill, with this area at the bottom, so the actual problem lies with the behavior of the weather: When there is high rain, water is washed down from the farm, across the couple of ft that separate it from the road, and can cover the road surface with thick mud and the general flotsam of a farm: washed out plants and manure, etc. The real tensions at play here lie between the local residents who consider this to be spoiling the area, and the farm which considers the site appropriate and doesn't consider itself to be negatively impacting the area around it. There's no one particularily at fault, and neither party is doing anything other than expressing their intentions and voicing their concerns; its not a black and white issue.

But this article. This article terrifies me. How is this language considered neutral? this is just a very transparent attempt at creating artificial animosity, and its disgusting. It's poorly researched, to boot. ..."In addition, a petition signed by 16 neighbours claimed that the development would mean the public could no longer get on to the site, which used to provide access to Rivington." The farm BEHIND this one (the one on the hill at the top of the photo with the ugly summerhouse/Eye of Sauron) blocked off this land to the public YEARS before this farm even showed up, putting up big fences that did absolutely nothing to stop us from throwing ourselves down Cool Runnings, with nothing but a fishtail skateboard between us and broken teeth. This story is shameful, and its sources are highly dubious.
This farm is literally next to my parents house, where I lived until about 5 years ago. That hill in the back there: we used to sledge/skateboard-bo bsleigh down it all day. We named it 'Cool Runnings'. It was the 90's. The field this farm occupies was literally empty, and was just grazing grounds for aberrant goats. One day a horse farm came, literally tucked itself behind some hedges, discretely, erected some fences and gained mastery of the fabled goatherd. Of course there was a little more traffic, and yes sometimes they could be inconsiderate when they moved their livestock/equipment, but honestly; much worse crimes out there. Everyone is capable of being inconsiderate at times. The only potential problem is the fact that the road leading up to it is narrow, and it leads directly onto the intersection of a residential estate, which used to be the spot of the 'show homes': an artificially sculpted piece of landscape that became an informal play area, an attractive green spot, and a natural buffer to the community around it. Now, the farm is on a slight hill, with this area at the bottom, so the actual problem lies with the behavior of the weather: When there is high rain, water is washed down from the farm, across the couple of ft that separate it from the road, and can cover the road surface with thick mud and the general flotsam of a farm: washed out plants and manure, etc. The real tensions at play here lie between the local residents who consider this to be spoiling the area, and the farm which considers the site appropriate and doesn't consider itself to be negatively impacting the area around it. There's no one particularily at fault, and neither party is doing anything other than expressing their intentions and voicing their concerns; its not a black and white issue. But this article. This article terrifies me. How is this language considered neutral? this is just a very transparent attempt at creating artificial animosity, and its disgusting. It's poorly researched, to boot. ..."In addition, a petition signed by 16 neighbours claimed that the development would mean the public could no longer get on to the site, which used to provide access to Rivington." The farm BEHIND this one (the one on the hill at the top of the photo with the ugly summerhouse/Eye of Sauron) blocked off this land to the public YEARS before this farm even showed up, putting up big fences that did absolutely nothing to stop us from throwing ourselves down Cool Runnings, with nothing but a fishtail skateboard between us and broken teeth. This story is shameful, and its sources are highly dubious. Worktown
  • Score: 4

4:40pm Fri 7 Mar 14

bigbob123 says...

Horwichisgreen wrote:
marco999 wrote:
With all the bitterness he's spouting it's almost as if 'BigBlob123' was the person trying to get the 'development' approved (and who got knocked back in previous attempts)
I think you are right. BigBlob123 seems to know a lot about this case. i have not read anything about the owners losing 4 ewes.
its on a article posted later where one of the reporters actually reports live from the planning meetings
[quote][p][bold]Horwichisgreen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]marco999[/bold] wrote: With all the bitterness he's spouting it's almost as if 'BigBlob123' was the person trying to get the 'development' approved (and who got knocked back in previous attempts)[/p][/quote]I think you are right. BigBlob123 seems to know a lot about this case. i have not read anything about the owners losing 4 ewes.[/p][/quote]its on a article posted later where one of the reporters actually reports live from the planning meetings bigbob123
  • Score: 1

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