Multi-million pound Market Place developers need special permission - to move old phone boxes

The grade-II listed phone boxes in Bridge Street, Bolton

The grade-II listed phone boxes in Bridge Street, Bolton

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DEVELOPERS looking to spend millions redeveloping the Market Place shopping centre have had to apply for special permission — to move four out-of-use public telephones.

The K6 red telephone boxes in Bridge Street have grade-II listed status, meaning they are protected as ‘street furniture’ of special architectural or historic interest.

Now Moorgarth, the owner of the Market Place, has had to apply to move them before it can start the new phase of its ambitious plans for the shopping centre.

It wants to shift the boxes — which have been sealed closed — to another as yet undisclosed location in the town centre to make way for a ‘click and collect’ car park with 20 spaces off Bridge Street and Corporation Street.

On Thursday, Moorgarth will also find out whether councillors will back its vision for the shopping centre’s vaults, as they look to turn them into restaurant and bar units.

It received permission to build a nine-screen cinema in the centre back in January, as part of a major regeneration bid.

The former public toilets in Bridge Street will also be demolished under the latest plans to create new space for new restaurants.

Recommending approval of the scheme, council planning officer Jodie Turton said in her report that the rehaul of the Market Place would benefit the whole of Bolton town centre.

“The re-use of the redundant public toilets will have a positive impact on the character and appearance of the area, providing an active frontage to the currently underutilised area, which is dominated by bus stops”, she said.


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“However, although the development proposal will result in the loss of the listed telephone boxes, these are to be relocated elsewhere in the town centre and their loss from this location, which it should be noted is not their original setting, is not considered to have a detrimental impact of the character of the area or wider conservation area.”

A bid by Crompton Place shopping centre to create an 11-screen multiplex cinema, with a range of restaurants, cafes and bars, is set to be discussed at next month’s meeting of the planning committee.

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7:25am Thu 1 May 14

normid norm says...

They should put to let signs on the boxes, in keeping with the rest of the town centre, I wonder how much rates BT pay on them?
They should put to let signs on the boxes, in keeping with the rest of the town centre, I wonder how much rates BT pay on them? normid norm
  • Score: 15

8:41am Thu 1 May 14

The Squire In Residence says...

From my recollection of the Victorian toilets the were quite magnificent - and it wasn't too long ago that the were earmarked as possible alternative use as another type of watering hole....a pub.

Surely they can be converted/incorporat
ed into whatever Moorgarth has proposed for the arches.... or will the council allow another part of our Victorian Heritage be ripped apart - I know you will all agree, as for the last public spirited idea to save the Market Hall, it will be passed and they will disappear....

Is that a toilet flush I hear....?
From my recollection of the Victorian toilets the were quite magnificent - and it wasn't too long ago that the were earmarked as possible alternative use as another type of watering hole....a pub. Surely they can be converted/incorporat ed into whatever Moorgarth has proposed for the arches.... or will the council allow another part of our Victorian Heritage be ripped apart - I know you will all agree, as for the last public spirited idea to save the Market Hall, it will be passed and they will disappear.... Is that a toilet flush I hear....? The Squire In Residence
  • Score: 29

8:45am Thu 1 May 14

Rememberscarborough says...

So people are prepared to bring desperately needed investment to our town centre and they're being stopped by our idiotic and outdated legal system? The world truly has gone mad....
So people are prepared to bring desperately needed investment to our town centre and they're being stopped by our idiotic and outdated legal system? The world truly has gone mad.... Rememberscarborough
  • Score: -5

8:52am Thu 1 May 14

The Squire In Residence says...

Rememberscarborough wrote:
So people are prepared to bring desperately needed investment to our town centre and they're being stopped by our idiotic and outdated legal system? The world truly has gone mad....
Absolutely not, certainly so with regards the phone boxes at least. But with a little latteral thinking the toilets could be saved and put to another use and the click and collect parking could be located where the phone boxes currently are. All it would take is a little re-jig of the road system. I will happily accomodate the the old phone boxes...
[quote][p][bold]Rememberscarborough[/bold] wrote: So people are prepared to bring desperately needed investment to our town centre and they're being stopped by our idiotic and outdated legal system? The world truly has gone mad....[/p][/quote]Absolutely not, certainly so with regards the phone boxes at least. But with a little latteral thinking the toilets could be saved and put to another use and the click and collect parking could be located where the phone boxes currently are. All it would take is a little re-jig of the road system. I will happily accomodate the the old phone boxes... The Squire In Residence
  • Score: 15

9:43am Thu 1 May 14

Diamonintherough says...

Isn't Bolton suppose to be an historical town?
I'm not really a fan of the modern day bolton plus those phone boxes have been there for as long as i can remember couldn't imagine them elsewhere.. I'm sure they'll be stupidly placed though!
Isn't Bolton suppose to be an historical town? I'm not really a fan of the modern day bolton plus those phone boxes have been there for as long as i can remember couldn't imagine them elsewhere.. I'm sure they'll be stupidly placed though! Diamonintherough
  • Score: 2

10:04am Thu 1 May 14

Jim271 says...

The only people that use Public call boxes are drug users.

You see them queuing up at the one bottom of Brownlow Way.
The only people that use Public call boxes are drug users. You see them queuing up at the one bottom of Brownlow Way. Jim271
  • Score: -1

10:15am Thu 1 May 14

Beyond News Forum says...

Every time I have had to use one of these telephone boxes in an emergency they stick of urine and have tobacco all over them from those who use them for rolling up a spliff.

Also are these not architects? They must be a shambolic lot if they cannot dream up a good use for them inside of the new development,
Every time I have had to use one of these telephone boxes in an emergency they stick of urine and have tobacco all over them from those who use them for rolling up a spliff. Also are these not architects? They must be a shambolic lot if they cannot dream up a good use for them inside of the new development, Beyond News Forum
  • Score: 3

11:16am Thu 1 May 14

MissPeg says...

I'm more concerned about a nice, quiet outdoor space (which is rare in a town centre) with benches and a post box being turned into a car park...surely click and collect can happen inside the existing car park?! After all, what are people collecting? Clothes, clothes, shoes, clothes...maybe some pans from Debenhams. It's hardly furniture and other heavier goods.
I'm more concerned about a nice, quiet outdoor space (which is rare in a town centre) with benches and a post box being turned into a car park...surely click and collect can happen inside the existing car park?! After all, what are people collecting? Clothes, clothes, shoes, clothes...maybe some pans from Debenhams. It's hardly furniture and other heavier goods. MissPeg
  • Score: 2

4:29pm Thu 1 May 14

fisherman1959 says...

Well I wonder how much more damage they can do to the market hall they have made a good shopping area into a large open space with not much in there I am sure most people preferred the market hall as it was.
Well I wonder how much more damage they can do to the market hall they have made a good shopping area into a large open space with not much in there I am sure most people preferred the market hall as it was. fisherman1959
  • Score: 3

6:04pm Thu 1 May 14

templejohn says...

Well, i am quite sure this shower that calls themselves a council will most

certainly back the developers ideas to turn the cellers in the Market-

place, into the Vaults?? another large amount of wasted money,,

OH WELL.....
Well, i am quite sure this shower that calls themselves a council will most certainly back the developers ideas to turn the cellers in the Market- place, into the Vaults?? another large amount of wasted money,, OH WELL..... templejohn
  • Score: 1

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