New 'landmark' mosque plan for Farnworth

The Bolton News: An artist’s impression of the three-storey "landmark" mosque that religious leaders want to build in Farnworth An artist’s impression of the three-storey "landmark" mosque that religious leaders want to build in Farnworth

PLANS to demolish a mosque and build a new “landmark” place of worship in its place will be decided at today’s planning committee meeting.

The leaders of Sughra Mosque have applied to Bolton Council for permission to knock down their existing home in Granville Street, Farnworth, and replace it with a three-storey centre.

Included in the plans is a blueprint for a reception, publicity room, men’s hall, women’s hall, IT suite, library, classroom and two ablution areas for washing.

In a statement to the council, architects Inspire Planning Solutions said it thinks the design will support the regeneration of Farnworth and would be a “significant improvement” in the appearance of the site.

It added: “The proposed mosque will replace an existing mosque within the urban area in the heart of the community which it serves.

“By rebuilding the mosque in its existing location, there will be minimum disruption to the community which could otherwise be fractured if the mosque were to relocate.

“One of the main drivers behind the application is to enhance the facilities and space. This would include a community hall, which will widen the role of the building and support a valuable local cultural facility.”


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Planning officers at Bolton Council have recommended councillors approve the plans, despite acknowledging it is likely there will be “detrimental impact to local residents” through loss of light.

However, they argue that the new building has the potential to act as a catalyst for investment and regeneration of the wider area.

In his report, planning officer Alex Allen said: “A building such as a mosque will by its very nature and function not reflect the traditional character of the area.

“Notwithstanding this, the proposal has the potential to provide a new landmark building to one of the key gateways into Farnworth.”

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6:33am Thu 1 May 14

thomas222 says...

If anyone would like to see houw light can be effected by a large imposing building bulit next to ones home just look at the over sized over build of the Mosque in Halliwell. Its 5 times bigger than the original & i hear not being used as they pushed their luck & built it to high & also over the bulilding line.
If anyone would like to see houw light can be effected by a large imposing building bulit next to ones home just look at the over sized over build of the Mosque in Halliwell. Its 5 times bigger than the original & i hear not being used as they pushed their luck & built it to high & also over the bulilding line. thomas222
  • Score: 92

6:35am Thu 1 May 14

Our streets says...

Typical comment!!
Typical comment!! Our streets
  • Score: -88

6:53am Thu 1 May 14

Dusty87 says...

lets hope that the council see sense today at this meeting and don't allow this to be built. Im sure there are enough mosques around Bolton already to be used, including the terraced houses that have been converted to mosques in the middle of some streets. I for one am already fed up of having to listen to the morning prayers over the loud speaker system they have.
lets hope that the council see sense today at this meeting and don't allow this to be built. Im sure there are enough mosques around Bolton already to be used, including the terraced houses that have been converted to mosques in the middle of some streets. I for one am already fed up of having to listen to the morning prayers over the loud speaker system they have. Dusty87
  • Score: 105

7:30am Thu 1 May 14

JustBecause says...

Of course it will get planning the council are cowards and would not turn this down, despite, says things like"detrimental to local residence"

That said, if the local people don't want it what have they done to stop it ? Probably Nowt.

Will sit an moan but won't actually do anything.

The council need sacking, why will this bring? The workers will be Asian, the work will be substandard, and the planning and building control will never go near the place.

I had a 3 story 10 apartment plan refused because of traffic and ligh impact, which was total ****, if I planned a mosque I guarantee a different outcome.
Of course it will get planning the council are cowards and would not turn this down, despite, says things like"detrimental to local residence" That said, if the local people don't want it what have they done to stop it ? Probably Nowt. Will sit an moan but won't actually do anything. The council need sacking, why will this bring? The workers will be Asian, the work will be substandard, and the planning and building control will never go near the place. I had a 3 story 10 apartment plan refused because of traffic and ligh impact, which was total ****, if I planned a mosque I guarantee a different outcome. JustBecause
  • Score: 92

7:32am Thu 1 May 14

Boltongirl18 says...

Bolton Council, are you for real "Planning officers at Bolton Council have recommended councillors approve the plans, despite acknowledging it is likely there will be “detrimental impact to local residents” through loss of light."
No finer example of your double standards!
Bolton Council, are you for real "Planning officers at Bolton Council have recommended councillors approve the plans, despite acknowledging it is likely there will be “detrimental impact to local residents” through loss of light." No finer example of your double standards! Boltongirl18
  • Score: 79

7:43am Thu 1 May 14

thomas222 says...

If the Cllrs vote for this against the will of the local people who elected them then they should be recalled by them & replaced. They represent what we want & not what they want. Only UKIP want the recall right to be law.
If the Cllrs vote for this against the will of the local people who elected them then they should be recalled by them & replaced. They represent what we want & not what they want. Only UKIP want the recall right to be law. thomas222
  • Score: 66

7:48am Thu 1 May 14

thomas222 says...

Our streets wrote:
Typical comment!!
The truth hurts, telling lies destroys.
[quote][p][bold]Our streets[/bold] wrote: Typical comment!![/p][/quote]The truth hurts, telling lies destroys. thomas222
  • Score: 32

7:59am Thu 1 May 14

JustBecause says...

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Never the less, it will still be given permission.
http://www.planningp a.bolton.gov.uk/onli ne-applications-17/f iles/E7589BBEBE6BF32 433AA4E3C9E8B1E68/pd f/91314_14-CONSULTEE _COMMENT_SUBMITTED_O NLINE-406291.pdf Never the less, it will still be given permission. JustBecause
  • Score: 17

8:16am Thu 1 May 14

Wigan Trotter says...

The decline of what was a great country.
The decline of what was a great country. Wigan Trotter
  • Score: 64

8:17am Thu 1 May 14

mb63 says...

Why has this not been publicised until now?
How are people supposed to protest about something they know nothing about?
There is already a mosque at that site, and it is on a one-way street.
You take your life in your own hands when you drive past because, the people attending/leaving the place don't seem to understand traffic law!
I GUARRANTEE, that there will be traffic chaos if this is allowed!
Egerton Street is an extremely busy road and the junction, with Bolton/mcr road is regularly blocked due to traffic!
But, this will be allowed because the council want the Asian vote!
Why has this not been publicised until now? How are people supposed to protest about something they know nothing about? There is already a mosque at that site, and it is on a one-way street. You take your life in your own hands when you drive past because, the people attending/leaving the place don't seem to understand traffic law! I GUARRANTEE, that there will be traffic chaos if this is allowed! Egerton Street is an extremely busy road and the junction, with Bolton/mcr road is regularly blocked due to traffic! But, this will be allowed because the council want the Asian vote! mb63
  • Score: 81

8:21am Thu 1 May 14

tillyflop53 says...

are there not enough in bolton???? this is getting beyond a joke Bolton is nowhere near the town it used to be there are so many foreigners now they are the majority. its sad really
are there not enough in bolton???? this is getting beyond a joke Bolton is nowhere near the town it used to be there are so many foreigners now they are the majority. its sad really tillyflop53
  • Score: 80

8:24am Thu 1 May 14

tillyflop53 says...

mb63 wrote:
Why has this not been publicised until now?
How are people supposed to protest about something they know nothing about?
There is already a mosque at that site, and it is on a one-way street.
You take your life in your own hands when you drive past because, the people attending/leaving the place don't seem to understand traffic law!
I GUARRANTEE, that there will be traffic chaos if this is allowed!
Egerton Street is an extremely busy road and the junction, with Bolton/mcr road is regularly blocked due to traffic!
But, this will be allowed because the council want the Asian vote!
I often wonder how some of these people actually get a driving license. It the same in Deane and Daubhill they dont give a **** about anyone but themselves
[quote][p][bold]mb63[/bold] wrote: Why has this not been publicised until now? How are people supposed to protest about something they know nothing about? There is already a mosque at that site, and it is on a one-way street. You take your life in your own hands when you drive past because, the people attending/leaving the place don't seem to understand traffic law! I GUARRANTEE, that there will be traffic chaos if this is allowed! Egerton Street is an extremely busy road and the junction, with Bolton/mcr road is regularly blocked due to traffic! But, this will be allowed because the council want the Asian vote![/p][/quote]I often wonder how some of these people actually get a driving license. It the same in Deane and Daubhill they dont give a **** about anyone but themselves tillyflop53
  • Score: 58

8:26am Thu 1 May 14

tillyflop53 says...

Theres even talk of a mosque being built in Horwich and there isnt a big asian population there .....yet!
Theres even talk of a mosque being built in Horwich and there isnt a big asian population there .....yet! tillyflop53
  • Score: 40

8:26am Thu 1 May 14

CliffMorris says...

Sad to see how racist the residents of bolton become.
Sad to see how racist the residents of bolton become. CliffMorris
  • Score: -123

8:28am Thu 1 May 14

Terry McC says...

One of the main drivers behind the application is to enhance the facilities and space. This would include a community hall, i always thought community was all but this will not be a community hall just a Muslim hall
One of the main drivers behind the application is to enhance the facilities and space. This would include a community hall, i always thought community was all but this will not be a community hall just a Muslim hall Terry McC
  • Score: 61

8:30am Thu 1 May 14

mb63 says...

CliffMorris wrote:
Sad to see how racist the residents of bolton become.
Who is being racist?
[quote][p][bold]CliffMorris[/bold] wrote: Sad to see how racist the residents of bolton become.[/p][/quote]Who is being racist? mb63
  • Score: 77

8:34am Thu 1 May 14

Jim271 says...

Bottom of Halliwell Road, every Friday the road is blocked with cars.

Bolton council turn down other building projects because of traffic congestion, lets see what they do with this.

They will definitely allow it, they need the votes.
Bottom of Halliwell Road, every Friday the road is blocked with cars. Bolton council turn down other building projects because of traffic congestion, lets see what they do with this. They will definitely allow it, they need the votes. Jim271
  • Score: 57

8:34am Thu 1 May 14

soup153 says...

They buy these things in kit form they all look alike.
They buy these things in kit form they all look alike. soup153
  • Score: 20

8:36am Thu 1 May 14

bwfc58 says...

This is why so many people of this once great country are now turning to UKIP and so right they should as they are the only party that would stop all these mosque being built in this once great country of ours
This is why so many people of this once great country are now turning to UKIP and so right they should as they are the only party that would stop all these mosque being built in this once great country of ours bwfc58
  • Score: 73

8:38am Thu 1 May 14

Ernagy2 says...

CliffMorris wrote:
Sad to see how racist the residents of bolton become.
If you are the real Cliff Morris, Mayor of Bolton, you should be ashamed of yourself for making such a comment. It's not for you to make comments like that ahead of an important planning matter. You should be keeping such thought to yourself. You are in effect a politician and you are supposed to be neutral.
[quote][p][bold]CliffMorris[/bold] wrote: Sad to see how racist the residents of bolton become.[/p][/quote]If you are the real Cliff Morris, Mayor of Bolton, you should be ashamed of yourself for making such a comment. It's not for you to make comments like that ahead of an important planning matter. You should be keeping such thought to yourself. You are in effect a politician and you are supposed to be neutral. Ernagy2
  • Score: 64

8:50am Thu 1 May 14

Tim Burr says...

It's an eyesore in the making. Its oversize is disproportionate to the land footprint.
It's an eyesore in the making. Its oversize is disproportionate to the land footprint. Tim Burr
  • Score: 49

9:06am Thu 1 May 14

MrsB11 says...

I really hope this doesn't go ahead, but no doubt it will due to our spineless council planning department! One of the key gateways into Farnworth should not be represented by a huge mosque. They already have a mosque on the site and there are landmark mosques only 10 minutes drive away, so why do they need to do this? We are getting closer and closer to being an Islamic state if we don't stop pandering to their demands. Edgerton Street and the surrounding area will become the new daubhill.
I really hope this doesn't go ahead, but no doubt it will due to our spineless council planning department! One of the key gateways into Farnworth should not be represented by a huge mosque. They already have a mosque on the site and there are landmark mosques only 10 minutes drive away, so why do they need to do this? We are getting closer and closer to being an Islamic state if we don't stop pandering to their demands. Edgerton Street and the surrounding area will become the new daubhill. MrsB11
  • Score: 62

9:10am Thu 1 May 14

Tim Burr says...

MrsB11 wrote:
I really hope this doesn't go ahead, but no doubt it will due to our spineless council planning department! One of the key gateways into Farnworth should not be represented by a huge mosque. They already have a mosque on the site and there are landmark mosques only 10 minutes drive away, so why do they need to do this? We are getting closer and closer to being an Islamic state if we don't stop pandering to their demands. Edgerton Street and the surrounding area will become the new daubhill.
It's a 'gateway' out of Farnworth, "Edgerton Street" (sic) is one way.
[quote][p][bold]MrsB11[/bold] wrote: I really hope this doesn't go ahead, but no doubt it will due to our spineless council planning department! One of the key gateways into Farnworth should not be represented by a huge mosque. They already have a mosque on the site and there are landmark mosques only 10 minutes drive away, so why do they need to do this? We are getting closer and closer to being an Islamic state if we don't stop pandering to their demands. Edgerton Street and the surrounding area will become the new daubhill.[/p][/quote]It's a 'gateway' out of Farnworth, "Edgerton Street" (sic) is one way. Tim Burr
  • Score: 23

9:11am Thu 1 May 14

The Wasp says...

CliffMorris wrote:
Sad to see how racist the residents of bolton become.
You are the worst thing to ever have happened to Bolton. And everybody is correct, this mosque will be passed no matter what.
[quote][p][bold]CliffMorris[/bold] wrote: Sad to see how racist the residents of bolton become.[/p][/quote]You are the worst thing to ever have happened to Bolton. And everybody is correct, this mosque will be passed no matter what. The Wasp
  • Score: 64

9:12am Thu 1 May 14

The Squire In Residence says...

Our streets wrote:
Typical comment!!
Mens hall - womens hall...... really!? This is the 21st century we are told. If I happened to want to segregate two different sexes - for whatever reason - then I bet you, 'Our streets', would be one of the first to object. Please get off your own bandwagon and see the BIGGER PICTURE!

Alex Allen has recently given me some planning advice which is completely contrary to what he proposes to advocate here. Typical....
[quote][p][bold]Our streets[/bold] wrote: Typical comment!![/p][/quote]Mens hall - womens hall...... really!? This is the 21st century we are told. If I happened to want to segregate two different sexes - for whatever reason - then I bet you, 'Our streets', would be one of the first to object. Please get off your own bandwagon and see the BIGGER PICTURE! Alex Allen has recently given me some planning advice which is completely contrary to what he proposes to advocate here. Typical.... The Squire In Residence
  • Score: 36

9:21am Thu 1 May 14

buskersball says...

bwfc58 wrote:
This is why so many people of this once great country are now turning to UKIP and so right they should as they are the only party that would stop all these mosque being built in this once great country of ours
what has UKIP's anti EU stance to do with this??
Nothing
[quote][p][bold]bwfc58[/bold] wrote: This is why so many people of this once great country are now turning to UKIP and so right they should as they are the only party that would stop all these mosque being built in this once great country of ours[/p][/quote]what has UKIP's anti EU stance to do with this?? Nothing buskersball
  • Score: -17

9:37am Thu 1 May 14

rnorris says...

The plans will be passed otherwise the council will be accused of racism........Answer
......Vote UKIP.
The plans will be passed otherwise the council will be accused of racism........Answer ......Vote UKIP. rnorris
  • Score: 58

9:45am Thu 1 May 14

thomas222 says...

buskersball wrote:
bwfc58 wrote:
This is why so many people of this once great country are now turning to UKIP and so right they should as they are the only party that would stop all these mosque being built in this once great country of ours
what has UKIP's anti EU stance to do with this??
Nothing
Because if it was UKIP in power they would bring in the power of recall ,if the Cllr of that ward did what they want and not what the people want they would be dismissed. True democracy.
[quote][p][bold]buskersball[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bwfc58[/bold] wrote: This is why so many people of this once great country are now turning to UKIP and so right they should as they are the only party that would stop all these mosque being built in this once great country of ours[/p][/quote]what has UKIP's anti EU stance to do with this?? Nothing[/p][/quote]Because if it was UKIP in power they would bring in the power of recall ,if the Cllr of that ward did what they want and not what the people want they would be dismissed. True democracy. thomas222
  • Score: 34

10:06am Thu 1 May 14

Jim271 says...

CliffMorris wrote:
Sad to see how racist the residents of bolton become.
Yes Bolton Council hate white working people.
[quote][p][bold]CliffMorris[/bold] wrote: Sad to see how racist the residents of bolton become.[/p][/quote]Yes Bolton Council hate white working people. Jim271
  • Score: 76

10:26am Thu 1 May 14

Beyond News Forum says...

Regardless of the culture or religion. I do not understand the need for so many places of worship in one town.

A church or a mosque is a symbol of power and status. I see more of one rather than the other sprouting up these days which shows for definite the change in demographics, power and status.

I am not being racist, or anti-religion but surely if these 'businesses' had any sense they would encourage the use of one until completely full? Or is it that the 'money' these religions accumulate cannot be put to better use than 'show off' power, status and greed?
Regardless of the culture or religion. I do not understand the need for so many places of worship in one town. A church or a mosque is a symbol of power and status. I see more of one rather than the other sprouting up these days which shows for definite the change in demographics, power and status. I am not being racist, or anti-religion but surely if these 'businesses' had any sense they would encourage the use of one until completely full? Or is it that the 'money' these religions accumulate cannot be put to better use than 'show off' power, status and greed? Beyond News Forum
  • Score: 42

10:32am Thu 1 May 14

denzo3629 says...

we don't need more mosques we need places for teenagers and youngsters to spend time in a safe environment with people they can talk to about the things that worry them, due to the amount of teen deaths recently not mosques, if you add up the amount of members of the religion who use mosques and the amount of mosques we already have then we have well enough for them, yet if you add up the amount of youngsters and things for them to do and places to go, we are lacking in the needs of them all for the sake of political correctness, wake up council staff, look after our future generations not one section of the existing community.
we don't need more mosques we need places for teenagers and youngsters to spend time in a safe environment with people they can talk to about the things that worry them, due to the amount of teen deaths recently not mosques, if you add up the amount of members of the religion who use mosques and the amount of mosques we already have then we have well enough for them, yet if you add up the amount of youngsters and things for them to do and places to go, we are lacking in the needs of them all for the sake of political correctness, wake up council staff, look after our future generations not one section of the existing community. denzo3629
  • Score: 68

10:35am Thu 1 May 14

I, Ludicrous says...

Vot iz point?
Vot iz point? I, Ludicrous
  • Score: 1

10:40am Thu 1 May 14

simsamsuk says...

nothing against them being built just think they are bloody ugly to look at with the big daft dome on top,
nothing against them being built just think they are bloody ugly to look at with the big daft dome on top, simsamsuk
  • Score: 0

10:42am Thu 1 May 14

Bob Shaftoe says...

Why has this item only just surfaced BN? Have you kept it under wraps deliberately on orders from across the road?
This monstrosity of a plan will no doubt be waved through, but if it were say for an office building on the site adjacent to the mosque it would go on for months and months, objections, site visits, appeals etc etc.
Double standards for some, eh?
Why has this item only just surfaced BN? Have you kept it under wraps deliberately on orders from across the road? This monstrosity of a plan will no doubt be waved through, but if it were say for an office building on the site adjacent to the mosque it would go on for months and months, objections, site visits, appeals etc etc. Double standards for some, eh? Bob Shaftoe
  • Score: 35

11:04am Thu 1 May 14

Hollieanne says...

Jim271 wrote:
CliffMorris wrote: Sad to see how racist the residents of bolton become.
Yes Bolton Council hate white working people.
If they are it's only because of YOUR'S and your party's policies Cliff of constantly pandering and vote buying
[quote][p][bold]Jim271[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CliffMorris[/bold] wrote: Sad to see how racist the residents of bolton become.[/p][/quote]Yes Bolton Council hate white working people.[/p][/quote]If they are it's only because of YOUR'S and your party's policies Cliff of constantly pandering and vote buying Hollieanne
  • Score: 26

11:41am Thu 1 May 14

newnsj says...

mb63 wrote:
Why has this not been publicised until now?
How are people supposed to protest about something they know nothing about?
There is already a mosque at that site, and it is on a one-way street.
You take your life in your own hands when you drive past because, the people attending/leaving the place don't seem to understand traffic law!
I GUARRANTEE, that there will be traffic chaos if this is allowed!
Egerton Street is an extremely busy road and the junction, with Bolton/mcr road is regularly blocked due to traffic!
But, this will be allowed because the council want the Asian vote!
Can't disagree with a single word in this comment, if I had been notified/informed earlier of this application I would have took the effort to oppose it. The traffic on Egerton Street is deadlock between the hours of 4pm and 7pm exactly when worshipers will be traveling to and from the mosque for evening prayers. As is already acknowledged by the planning officer it would be an entirely inappropriate and out of character development for the Moses Gate area, the justification that it would bring much needed investment and regeneration to Farnworth is a plain nonsense, and isn't borne out by the evidence of other large Mosque developments in the Bolton area, such as Daubhill and Halliwell. Anyone who claims these areas to have been regenerated as a result hasn't had the misfortune of walking through them.
[quote][p][bold]mb63[/bold] wrote: Why has this not been publicised until now? How are people supposed to protest about something they know nothing about? There is already a mosque at that site, and it is on a one-way street. You take your life in your own hands when you drive past because, the people attending/leaving the place don't seem to understand traffic law! I GUARRANTEE, that there will be traffic chaos if this is allowed! Egerton Street is an extremely busy road and the junction, with Bolton/mcr road is regularly blocked due to traffic! But, this will be allowed because the council want the Asian vote![/p][/quote]Can't disagree with a single word in this comment, if I had been notified/informed earlier of this application I would have took the effort to oppose it. The traffic on Egerton Street is deadlock between the hours of 4pm and 7pm exactly when worshipers will be traveling to and from the mosque for evening prayers. As is already acknowledged by the planning officer it would be an entirely inappropriate and out of character development for the Moses Gate area, the justification that it would bring much needed investment and regeneration to Farnworth is a plain nonsense, and isn't borne out by the evidence of other large Mosque developments in the Bolton area, such as Daubhill and Halliwell. Anyone who claims these areas to have been regenerated as a result hasn't had the misfortune of walking through them. newnsj
  • Score: 38

11:45am Thu 1 May 14

asian-nation says...

I am sure the Council will see sense and approve the plans...... Good luck to out local mosque
I am sure the Council will see sense and approve the plans...... Good luck to out local mosque asian-nation
  • Score: -89

11:47am Thu 1 May 14

asian-nation says...

Why is it that so many people are jealous??????
Why is it that so many people are jealous?????? asian-nation
  • Score: -77

11:55am Thu 1 May 14

newnsj says...

CliffMorris wrote:
Sad to see how racist the residents of bolton become.
The Councillors comments are as inappropriate as the proposed development, its apparent the Labour-controlled local government have already decided on this application despite what local residents feel about it. Something to keep in mind in the upcoming local elections.
[quote][p][bold]CliffMorris[/bold] wrote: Sad to see how racist the residents of bolton become.[/p][/quote]The Councillors comments are as inappropriate as the proposed development, its apparent the Labour-controlled local government have already decided on this application despite what local residents feel about it. Something to keep in mind in the upcoming local elections. newnsj
  • Score: 30

11:56am Thu 1 May 14

Facts234 says...

What's wrong with building a place of worship? Look at the decline of all the empty church buildings..if you folks instilled faith in your children them I'm sure there would be many churches being built or revived in the area. Instead whilst Muslim children go to mosque after school, most kids are on their computer games, with little morals being taught hence resulting in underage pregnancies, drug and drunk abuse. How does a mosque being built affect your lives? Your comments are a sad reality of the closet racist. If you feel that strong about it arrange a meeting with the local Muslims ... It's easy to sit behind a computer and type comments but face to face would you have the courage to air your views? I don't think so as you yourself know that they are racist.
Please put dome effort into reviving the sad empty dilapidated churches and you might find some peace and understanding with living with other human beings who have a different culture
What's wrong with building a place of worship? Look at the decline of all the empty church buildings..if you folks instilled faith in your children them I'm sure there would be many churches being built or revived in the area. Instead whilst Muslim children go to mosque after school, most kids are on their computer games, with little morals being taught hence resulting in underage pregnancies, drug and drunk abuse. How does a mosque being built affect your lives? Your comments are a sad reality of the closet racist. If you feel that strong about it arrange a meeting with the local Muslims ... It's easy to sit behind a computer and type comments but face to face would you have the courage to air your views? I don't think so as you yourself know that they are racist. Please put dome effort into reviving the sad empty dilapidated churches and you might find some peace and understanding with living with other human beings who have a different culture Facts234
  • Score: -54

12:15pm Thu 1 May 14

Bob Shaftoe says...

asian-nation wrote:
Why is it that so many people are jealous??????
......of what?
[quote][p][bold]asian-nation[/bold] wrote: Why is it that so many people are jealous??????[/p][/quote]......of what? Bob Shaftoe
  • Score: 47

12:16pm Thu 1 May 14

HOOSIER says...

JustBecause wrote:
Of course it will get planning the council are cowards and would not turn this down, despite, says things like"detrimenta
l to local residence"

That said, if the local people don't want it what have they done to stop it ? Probably Nowt.

Will sit an moan but won't actually do anything.

The council need sacking, why will this bring? The workers will be Asian, the work will be substandard, and the planning and building control will never go near the place.

I had a 3 story 10 apartment plan refused because of traffic and ligh impact, which was total ****, if I planned a mosque I guarantee a different outcome.
I'm quite close to that area and this is the first I've heard of this! I cant say that I want that near me as has already been said theres enough mosques in bolton area as it is.
I think I'm goung to start selling white flags. Where has the great gone from Britain.
[quote][p][bold]JustBecause[/bold] wrote: Of course it will get planning the council are cowards and would not turn this down, despite, says things like"detrimenta l to local residence" That said, if the local people don't want it what have they done to stop it ? Probably Nowt. Will sit an moan but won't actually do anything. The council need sacking, why will this bring? The workers will be Asian, the work will be substandard, and the planning and building control will never go near the place. I had a 3 story 10 apartment plan refused because of traffic and ligh impact, which was total ****, if I planned a mosque I guarantee a different outcome.[/p][/quote]I'm quite close to that area and this is the first I've heard of this! I cant say that I want that near me as has already been said theres enough mosques in bolton area as it is. I think I'm goung to start selling white flags. Where has the great gone from Britain. HOOSIER
  • Score: 31

12:25pm Thu 1 May 14

johnnyjackson says...

tillyflop53 wrote:
are there not enough in bolton???? this is getting beyond a joke Bolton is nowhere near the town it used to be there are so many foreigners now they are the majority. its sad really
Move out mate.
[quote][p][bold]tillyflop53[/bold] wrote: are there not enough in bolton???? this is getting beyond a joke Bolton is nowhere near the town it used to be there are so many foreigners now they are the majority. its sad really[/p][/quote]Move out mate. johnnyjackson
  • Score: -65

12:27pm Thu 1 May 14

johnnyjackson says...

Great news.
Great news. johnnyjackson
  • Score: -62

12:34pm Thu 1 May 14

newnsj says...

johnnyjackson wrote:
Great news.
Troll!
[quote][p][bold]johnnyjackson[/bold] wrote: Great news.[/p][/quote]Troll! newnsj
  • Score: 13

12:40pm Thu 1 May 14

johnnyjackson says...

newnsj wrote:
johnnyjackson wrote:
Great news.
Troll!
burp
[quote][p][bold]newnsj[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]johnnyjackson[/bold] wrote: Great news.[/p][/quote]Troll![/p][/quote]burp johnnyjackson
  • Score: -50

1:33pm Thu 1 May 14

keepbritainbritish says...

CliffMorris wrote:
Sad to see how racist the residents of bolton become.
It's not all about being racist!! It's about being fed up to the back teeth of God for sale eyesores thrown up around our town!! There is more than enough mosques around bolton for people to attend without anymore. It's totally disgusting and the council will probably allow this otherwise they will face the "race card" yet again us britsh are made to just deal with it, and they wonder why there is so much friction within our communities.
[quote][p][bold]CliffMorris[/bold] wrote: Sad to see how racist the residents of bolton become.[/p][/quote]It's not all about being racist!! It's about being fed up to the back teeth of God for sale eyesores thrown up around our town!! There is more than enough mosques around bolton for people to attend without anymore. It's totally disgusting and the council will probably allow this otherwise they will face the "race card" yet again us britsh are made to just deal with it, and they wonder why there is so much friction within our communities. keepbritainbritish
  • Score: 42

1:41pm Thu 1 May 14

fay clarke says...

Can we have some new toilets in Bolton town centre please?
Can we have some new toilets in Bolton town centre please? fay clarke
  • Score: 52

1:45pm Thu 1 May 14

Commonsense1964 says...

CliffMorris wrote:
Sad to see how racist the residents of bolton become.
Councillor Morris, your comment just shows how intelligent you are. Disliking a religion is not racist. Islam is a religion not a race. This country is a Christian country and should remain so.

You were elected by your constituents and so you should represent THEIR views and not yours.

Why would you the residents of Farnworth want a monstrosity of a building like that?

You need a reality check.
[quote][p][bold]CliffMorris[/bold] wrote: Sad to see how racist the residents of bolton become.[/p][/quote]Councillor Morris, your comment just shows how intelligent you are. Disliking a religion is not racist. Islam is a religion not a race. This country is a Christian country and should remain so. You were elected by your constituents and so you should represent THEIR views and not yours. Why would you the residents of Farnworth want a monstrosity of a building like that? You need a reality check. Commonsense1964
  • Score: 41

1:56pm Thu 1 May 14

DC Ferret says...

rnorris wrote:
The plans will be passed otherwise the council will be accused of racism........Answer ......Vote UKIP.
is that a question? Answer - no!
[quote][p][bold]rnorris[/bold] wrote: The plans will be passed otherwise the council will be accused of racism........Answer ......Vote UKIP.[/p][/quote]is that a question? Answer - no! DC Ferret
  • Score: -10

1:59pm Thu 1 May 14

holloway_david says...

Bob Shaftoe wrote:
Why has this item only just surfaced BN? Have you kept it under wraps deliberately on orders from across the road?
This monstrosity of a plan will no doubt be waved through, but if it were say for an office building on the site adjacent to the mosque it would go on for months and months, objections, site visits, appeals etc etc.
Double standards for some, eh?
Remember this council have stopped planning comment.
[quote][p][bold]Bob Shaftoe[/bold] wrote: Why has this item only just surfaced BN? Have you kept it under wraps deliberately on orders from across the road? This monstrosity of a plan will no doubt be waved through, but if it were say for an office building on the site adjacent to the mosque it would go on for months and months, objections, site visits, appeals etc etc. Double standards for some, eh?[/p][/quote]Remember this council have stopped planning comment. holloway_david
  • Score: 13

2:00pm Thu 1 May 14

DC Ferret says...

And incidentally, who are "all l these people" voting UKIP? The figures don't back you up, they are still a minority 1 issue party of malcontents, racists and those who are generally confused and ignorant, not to mention the uneducated (and if you are educated and you still support them then shame on you)
And incidentally, who are "all l these people" voting UKIP? The figures don't back you up, they are still a minority 1 issue party of malcontents, racists and those who are generally confused and ignorant, not to mention the uneducated (and if you are educated and you still support them then shame on you) DC Ferret
  • Score: -17

2:02pm Thu 1 May 14

Zain Khan says...

Commonsense1964 wrote:
CliffMorris wrote:
Sad to see how racist the residents of bolton become.
Councillor Morris, your comment just shows how intelligent you are. Disliking a religion is not racist. Islam is a religion not a race. This country is a Christian country and should remain so.

You were elected by your constituents and so you should represent THEIR views and not yours.

Why would you the residents of Farnworth want a monstrosity of a building like that?

You need a reality check.
Christian country?? When was the last time you attended church??
[quote][p][bold]Commonsense1964[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CliffMorris[/bold] wrote: Sad to see how racist the residents of bolton become.[/p][/quote]Councillor Morris, your comment just shows how intelligent you are. Disliking a religion is not racist. Islam is a religion not a race. This country is a Christian country and should remain so. You were elected by your constituents and so you should represent THEIR views and not yours. Why would you the residents of Farnworth want a monstrosity of a building like that? You need a reality check.[/p][/quote]Christian country?? When was the last time you attended church?? Zain Khan
  • Score: -70

2:03pm Thu 1 May 14

SleepingThunder says...

Is it true that Saudi arabia fund the building of mosques.
Is it true that Saudi arabia fund the building of mosques. SleepingThunder
  • Score: 13

2:04pm Thu 1 May 14

DC Ferret says...

keepbritainbritish wrote:
CliffMorris wrote: Sad to see how racist the residents of bolton become.
It's not all about being racist!! It's about being fed up to the back teeth of God for sale eyesores thrown up around our town!! There is more than enough mosques around bolton for people to attend without anymore. It's totally disgusting and the council will probably allow this otherwise they will face the "race card" yet again us britsh are made to just deal with it, and they wonder why there is so much friction within our communities.
atahere's "so much friction" because of misguided bigots like you who are outraged at anything remotely non white appearing on the streets of Bolton, or should that be "this once proud town"?
[quote][p][bold]keepbritainbritish[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CliffMorris[/bold] wrote: Sad to see how racist the residents of bolton become.[/p][/quote]It's not all about being racist!! It's about being fed up to the back teeth of God for sale eyesores thrown up around our town!! There is more than enough mosques around bolton for people to attend without anymore. It's totally disgusting and the council will probably allow this otherwise they will face the "race card" yet again us britsh are made to just deal with it, and they wonder why there is so much friction within our communities.[/p][/quote]atahere's "so much friction" because of misguided bigots like you who are outraged at anything remotely non white appearing on the streets of Bolton, or should that be "this once proud town"? DC Ferret
  • Score: -30

2:22pm Thu 1 May 14

holloway_david says...

Ernagy2 wrote:
CliffMorris wrote:
Sad to see how racist the residents of bolton become.
If you are the real Cliff Morris, Mayor of Bolton, you should be ashamed of yourself for making such a comment. It's not for you to make comments like that ahead of an important planning matter. You should be keeping such thought to yourself. You are in effect a politician and you are supposed to be neutral.
He is not the Mayor of Bolton. I doubt this name to be the same idiot leader of the council but somebody hiding behind their ethnicity and who would vote Labour. Although Morris is not up for election this time, I hope all his Labour councillors are reduced. and that we get more democracy in the council chamber obviously I do not mean voting Conservatives ------ GUESS!
[quote][p][bold]Ernagy2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CliffMorris[/bold] wrote: Sad to see how racist the residents of bolton become.[/p][/quote]If you are the real Cliff Morris, Mayor of Bolton, you should be ashamed of yourself for making such a comment. It's not for you to make comments like that ahead of an important planning matter. You should be keeping such thought to yourself. You are in effect a politician and you are supposed to be neutral.[/p][/quote]He is not the Mayor of Bolton. I doubt this name to be the same idiot leader of the council but somebody hiding behind their ethnicity and who would vote Labour. Although Morris is not up for election this time, I hope all his Labour councillors are reduced. and that we get more democracy in the council chamber obviously I do not mean voting Conservatives ------ GUESS! holloway_david
  • Score: 17

2:32pm Thu 1 May 14

holloway_david says...

DC Ferret wrote:
And incidentally, who are "all l these people" voting UKIP? The figures don't back you up, they are still a minority 1 issue party of malcontents, racists and those who are generally confused and ignorant, not to mention the uneducated (and if you are educated and you still support them then shame on you)
"And shame on you"
[quote][p][bold]DC Ferret[/bold] wrote: And incidentally, who are "all l these people" voting UKIP? The figures don't back you up, they are still a minority 1 issue party of malcontents, racists and those who are generally confused and ignorant, not to mention the uneducated (and if you are educated and you still support them then shame on you)[/p][/quote]"And shame on you" holloway_david
  • Score: 10

2:33pm Thu 1 May 14

thomas222 says...

Zain Khan wrote:
Commonsense1964 wrote:
CliffMorris wrote:
Sad to see how racist the residents of bolton become.
Councillor Morris, your comment just shows how intelligent you are. Disliking a religion is not racist. Islam is a religion not a race. This country is a Christian country and should remain so.

You were elected by your constituents and so you should represent THEIR views and not yours.

Why would you the residents of Farnworth want a monstrosity of a building like that?

You need a reality check.
Christian country?? When was the last time you attended church??
This country is Christian because there are more Christians in this Country than Islam & all the other faiths combined together thats why its a Christian Country Zane, its not rocker science is it. Sorry if it does not fit with your wishes you can check it out on Wikipedia matey : )
[quote][p][bold]Zain Khan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Commonsense1964[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CliffMorris[/bold] wrote: Sad to see how racist the residents of bolton become.[/p][/quote]Councillor Morris, your comment just shows how intelligent you are. Disliking a religion is not racist. Islam is a religion not a race. This country is a Christian country and should remain so. You were elected by your constituents and so you should represent THEIR views and not yours. Why would you the residents of Farnworth want a monstrosity of a building like that? You need a reality check.[/p][/quote]Christian country?? When was the last time you attended church??[/p][/quote]This country is Christian because there are more Christians in this Country than Islam & all the other faiths combined together thats why its a Christian Country Zane, its not rocker science is it. Sorry if it does not fit with your wishes you can check it out on Wikipedia matey : ) thomas222
  • Score: 26

2:40pm Thu 1 May 14

thomas222 says...

holloway_david wrote:
DC Ferret wrote:
And incidentally, who are "all l these people" voting UKIP? The figures don't back you up, they are still a minority 1 issue party of malcontents, racists and those who are generally confused and ignorant, not to mention the uneducated (and if you are educated and you still support them then shame on you)
"And shame on you"
You got the wrong mob its the pro EU parties & supporters who are the racists. Please comment with genuine facts & not something that suits your agenda regardless of the truth. Truth may be hard to take,but lying destroys just like the libdems have been when found lying.
[quote][p][bold]holloway_david[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DC Ferret[/bold] wrote: And incidentally, who are "all l these people" voting UKIP? The figures don't back you up, they are still a minority 1 issue party of malcontents, racists and those who are generally confused and ignorant, not to mention the uneducated (and if you are educated and you still support them then shame on you)[/p][/quote]"And shame on you"[/p][/quote]You got the wrong mob its the pro EU parties & supporters who are the racists. Please comment with genuine facts & not something that suits your agenda regardless of the truth. Truth may be hard to take,but lying destroys just like the libdems have been when found lying. thomas222
  • Score: 12

2:50pm Thu 1 May 14

holloway_david says...

thomas222 wrote:
If anyone would like to see houw light can be effected by a large imposing building bulit next to ones home just look at the over sized over build of the Mosque in Halliwell. Its 5 times bigger than the original & i hear not being used as they pushed their luck & built it to high & also over the bulilding line.
Why don't we put in a counter proposal for a Blackpool Tower type build this really will put our areas on the map.
[quote][p][bold]thomas222[/bold] wrote: If anyone would like to see houw light can be effected by a large imposing building bulit next to ones home just look at the over sized over build of the Mosque in Halliwell. Its 5 times bigger than the original & i hear not being used as they pushed their luck & built it to high & also over the bulilding line.[/p][/quote]Why don't we put in a counter proposal for a Blackpool Tower type build this really will put our areas on the map. holloway_david
  • Score: 13

2:57pm Thu 1 May 14

Commonsense1964 says...

Zain Khan wrote:
Commonsense1964 wrote:
CliffMorris wrote:
Sad to see how racist the residents of bolton become.
Councillor Morris, your comment just shows how intelligent you are. Disliking a religion is not racist. Islam is a religion not a race. This country is a Christian country and should remain so.

You were elected by your constituents and so you should represent THEIR views and not yours.

Why would you the residents of Farnworth want a monstrosity of a building like that?

You need a reality check.
Christian country?? When was the last time you attended church??
Zain,

I do not go to church as I am an atheist. I chose to live in a predominantly Christian country as I believe in christian values but not in the existance of a god.

In answer to your question, the United Kingdom was a Christian country before Islam was "invented" in the 7th century. (622 AD)

Here's a question for you Zain.

Would Planning be approved say, in Pakistan for a C of E church to be built in Karachi?
[quote][p][bold]Zain Khan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Commonsense1964[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CliffMorris[/bold] wrote: Sad to see how racist the residents of bolton become.[/p][/quote]Councillor Morris, your comment just shows how intelligent you are. Disliking a religion is not racist. Islam is a religion not a race. This country is a Christian country and should remain so. You were elected by your constituents and so you should represent THEIR views and not yours. Why would you the residents of Farnworth want a monstrosity of a building like that? You need a reality check.[/p][/quote]Christian country?? When was the last time you attended church??[/p][/quote]Zain, I do not go to church as I am an atheist. I chose to live in a predominantly Christian country as I believe in christian values but not in the existance of a god. In answer to your question, the United Kingdom was a Christian country before Islam was "invented" in the 7th century. (622 AD) Here's a question for you Zain. Would Planning be approved say, in Pakistan for a C of E church to be built in Karachi? Commonsense1964
  • Score: 47

3:02pm Thu 1 May 14

thomas222 says...

Commonsense1964 wrote:
Zain Khan wrote:
Commonsense1964 wrote:
CliffMorris wrote:
Sad to see how racist the residents of bolton become.
Councillor Morris, your comment just shows how intelligent you are. Disliking a religion is not racist. Islam is a religion not a race. This country is a Christian country and should remain so.

You were elected by your constituents and so you should represent THEIR views and not yours.

Why would you the residents of Farnworth want a monstrosity of a building like that?

You need a reality check.
Christian country?? When was the last time you attended church??
Zain,

I do not go to church as I am an atheist. I chose to live in a predominantly Christian country as I believe in christian values but not in the existance of a god.

In answer to your question, the United Kingdom was a Christian country before Islam was "invented" in the 7th century. (622 AD)

Here's a question for you Zain.

Would Planning be approved say, in Pakistan for a C of E church to be built in Karachi?
Spot on he has just been closed...... " Invented" is also true because Mo never lived..
[quote][p][bold]Commonsense1964[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Zain Khan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Commonsense1964[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CliffMorris[/bold] wrote: Sad to see how racist the residents of bolton become.[/p][/quote]Councillor Morris, your comment just shows how intelligent you are. Disliking a religion is not racist. Islam is a religion not a race. This country is a Christian country and should remain so. You were elected by your constituents and so you should represent THEIR views and not yours. Why would you the residents of Farnworth want a monstrosity of a building like that? You need a reality check.[/p][/quote]Christian country?? When was the last time you attended church??[/p][/quote]Zain, I do not go to church as I am an atheist. I chose to live in a predominantly Christian country as I believe in christian values but not in the existance of a god. In answer to your question, the United Kingdom was a Christian country before Islam was "invented" in the 7th century. (622 AD) Here's a question for you Zain. Would Planning be approved say, in Pakistan for a C of E church to be built in Karachi?[/p][/quote]Spot on he has just been closed...... " Invented" is also true because Mo never lived.. thomas222
  • Score: 19

3:20pm Thu 1 May 14

Terry McC says...

3:13pm

Lots of debate there and was furiously scribbling - the plan has been approved, subject to delegation from the director

3:08pm

Cllr Spencer pointing out during the debate that a mosque has been there since the 1970s

3:06pm

Bryn Morgan speaking against it. Says he objects to the aesthetics of the mosque, and that a mosque should not be a gateway to Farnworth. Adds that he sees this as the further Ismalification of the country.

3:04pm

Three letters of support and one letter of objection about this one
....................
....... Job done cut and shut, try asking the people first its obvious from the comments
3:13pm Lots of debate there and was furiously scribbling - the plan has been approved, subject to delegation from the director 3:08pm Cllr Spencer pointing out during the debate that a mosque has been there since the 1970s 3:06pm Bryn Morgan speaking against it. Says he objects to the aesthetics of the mosque, and that a mosque should not be a gateway to Farnworth. Adds that he sees this as the further Ismalification of the country. 3:04pm Three letters of support and one letter of objection about this one .................... ....... Job done cut and shut, try asking the people first its obvious from the comments Terry McC
  • Score: 8

3:25pm Thu 1 May 14

thomas222 says...

Terry McC wrote:
3:13pm

Lots of debate there and was furiously scribbling - the plan has been approved, subject to delegation from the director

3:08pm

Cllr Spencer pointing out during the debate that a mosque has been there since the 1970s

3:06pm

Bryn Morgan speaking against it. Says he objects to the aesthetics of the mosque, and that a mosque should not be a gateway to Farnworth. Adds that he sees this as the further Ismalification of the country.

3:04pm

Three letters of support and one letter of objection about this one
....................

....... Job done cut and shut, try asking the people first its obvious from the comments
Labour out they have become the slaves of Islam for the vote.
[quote][p][bold]Terry McC[/bold] wrote: 3:13pm Lots of debate there and was furiously scribbling - the plan has been approved, subject to delegation from the director 3:08pm Cllr Spencer pointing out during the debate that a mosque has been there since the 1970s 3:06pm Bryn Morgan speaking against it. Says he objects to the aesthetics of the mosque, and that a mosque should not be a gateway to Farnworth. Adds that he sees this as the further Ismalification of the country. 3:04pm Three letters of support and one letter of objection about this one .................... ....... Job done cut and shut, try asking the people first its obvious from the comments[/p][/quote]Labour out they have become the slaves of Islam for the vote. thomas222
  • Score: 23

3:28pm Thu 1 May 14

Jim271 says...

Now we know who REALLY RUNS THE COUNCIL!!!!!!

Get out and vote this group out.
Now we know who REALLY RUNS THE COUNCIL!!!!!! Get out and vote this group out. Jim271
  • Score: 21

3:30pm Thu 1 May 14

Wulf32 says...

By just claiming your a christian does not it make it so..how many of these so called christians have ever been to Church or understand the basic tennents of christianity..by celebrating xmas does not make you christian - you will find that there are more practicing muslims in this country than practicing christians...hence the need for more mosques and the continued closure of churches across this great christian country!
By just claiming your a christian does not it make it so..how many of these so called christians have ever been to Church or understand the basic tennents of christianity..by celebrating xmas does not make you christian - you will find that there are more practicing muslims in this country than practicing christians...hence the need for more mosques and the continued closure of churches across this great christian country! Wulf32
  • Score: -68

3:38pm Thu 1 May 14

thomas222 says...

Wulf32 wrote:
By just claiming your a christian does not it make it so..how many of these so called christians have ever been to Church or understand the basic tennents of christianity..by celebrating xmas does not make you christian - you will find that there are more practicing muslims in this country than practicing christians...hence the need for more mosques and the continued closure of churches across this great christian country!
One can also be a person who has no religion but live their lives with Christian values as Millions do already. Many people now know the Bible & Koran were written by men. The Bible having been written to Roman, Jewish & other countries in their writings & he did live & his life is recorded. Islam on the other hand was written 300 yrs after the supposed death of Mo who has not one word written anywhere were he was born, came from, went to, preached at etc... not one word. Western people also understand with new science there is no after we all go back to what we all came from... space dust.
[quote][p][bold]Wulf32[/bold] wrote: By just claiming your a christian does not it make it so..how many of these so called christians have ever been to Church or understand the basic tennents of christianity..by celebrating xmas does not make you christian - you will find that there are more practicing muslims in this country than practicing christians...hence the need for more mosques and the continued closure of churches across this great christian country![/p][/quote]One can also be a person who has no religion but live their lives with Christian values as Millions do already. Many people now know the Bible & Koran were written by men. The Bible having been written to Roman, Jewish & other countries in their writings & he did live & his life is recorded. Islam on the other hand was written 300 yrs after the supposed death of Mo who has not one word written anywhere were he was born, came from, went to, preached at etc... not one word. Western people also understand with new science there is no after we all go back to what we all came from... space dust. thomas222
  • Score: 15

3:39pm Thu 1 May 14

Commonsense1964 says...

To to build an eyesore such as this, is just wrong.
To to build an eyesore such as this, is just wrong. Commonsense1964
  • Score: 55

3:40pm Thu 1 May 14

holloway_david says...

Wulf32 wrote:
By just claiming your a christian does not it make it so..how many of these so called christians have ever been to Church or understand the basic tennents of christianity..by celebrating xmas does not make you christian - you will find that there are more practicing muslims in this country than practicing christians...hence the need for more mosques and the continued closure of churches across this great christian country!
Less immigration is the answer and mosques should not be part of this countries landscape but remain in their original country.
[quote][p][bold]Wulf32[/bold] wrote: By just claiming your a christian does not it make it so..how many of these so called christians have ever been to Church or understand the basic tennents of christianity..by celebrating xmas does not make you christian - you will find that there are more practicing muslims in this country than practicing christians...hence the need for more mosques and the continued closure of churches across this great christian country![/p][/quote]Less immigration is the answer and mosques should not be part of this countries landscape but remain in their original country. holloway_david
  • Score: 60

3:50pm Thu 1 May 14

thomas222 says...

Why do Islamists on here 99% of the time use British Names instead of Islamic ones. Cant they do anything straight ?
Why do Islamists on here 99% of the time use British Names instead of Islamic ones. Cant they do anything straight ? thomas222
  • Score: 46

4:15pm Thu 1 May 14

mb63 says...

Facts234 wrote:
What's wrong with building a place of worship? Look at the decline of all the empty church buildings..if you folks instilled faith in your children them I'm sure there would be many churches being built or revived in the area. Instead whilst Muslim children go to mosque after school, most kids are on their computer games, with little morals being taught hence resulting in underage pregnancies, drug and drunk abuse. How does a mosque being built affect your lives? Your comments are a sad reality of the closet racist. If you feel that strong about it arrange a meeting with the local Muslims ... It's easy to sit behind a computer and type comments but face to face would you have the courage to air your views? I don't think so as you yourself know that they are racist.
Please put dome effort into reviving the sad empty dilapidated churches and you might find some peace and understanding with living with other human beings who have a different culture
Whenever someone says anything anti islam, you will always get a muslim coming up with the race card!
Last time i checked, Islam was a religion/faith, NOT a race!
Yours is the racist comment, not anyone elses!
If the mosque is mot big enough for your gollowers, then build a bigger one, just NOT on that site of the existing mosque.
The infrastructure, and surrounding roads are already being used over capacity.
It is going to cause more problems for the surrounding road users, on what are main routes between Farnworth/ Great lever/ Little Lever and Bolton.
It is the most inapproriate place to add more traffic to!
Nothing to do with race.
[quote][p][bold]Facts234[/bold] wrote: What's wrong with building a place of worship? Look at the decline of all the empty church buildings..if you folks instilled faith in your children them I'm sure there would be many churches being built or revived in the area. Instead whilst Muslim children go to mosque after school, most kids are on their computer games, with little morals being taught hence resulting in underage pregnancies, drug and drunk abuse. How does a mosque being built affect your lives? Your comments are a sad reality of the closet racist. If you feel that strong about it arrange a meeting with the local Muslims ... It's easy to sit behind a computer and type comments but face to face would you have the courage to air your views? I don't think so as you yourself know that they are racist. Please put dome effort into reviving the sad empty dilapidated churches and you might find some peace and understanding with living with other human beings who have a different culture[/p][/quote]Whenever someone says anything anti islam, you will always get a muslim coming up with the race card! Last time i checked, Islam was a religion/faith, NOT a race! Yours is the racist comment, not anyone elses! If the mosque is mot big enough for your gollowers, then build a bigger one, just NOT on that site of the existing mosque. The infrastructure, and surrounding roads are already being used over capacity. It is going to cause more problems for the surrounding road users, on what are main routes between Farnworth/ Great lever/ Little Lever and Bolton. It is the most inapproriate place to add more traffic to! Nothing to do with race. mb63
  • Score: 53

4:17pm Thu 1 May 14

fisherman1959 says...

Why they have to make them so big and so tall that they can be seen from all over the town gets me. If we wanted to build something so tall with a big green roof on it then the planning committee would turn down the application saying it does not blend in with the surroundings so why do they get there plans passed?? And then if it does not comply with the passed plans why do they not have to knock it down the same as we would. Just hope it gets the red light for a change.
Why they have to make them so big and so tall that they can be seen from all over the town gets me. If we wanted to build something so tall with a big green roof on it then the planning committee would turn down the application saying it does not blend in with the surroundings so why do they get there plans passed?? And then if it does not comply with the passed plans why do they not have to knock it down the same as we would. Just hope it gets the red light for a change. fisherman1959
  • Score: 54

4:19pm Thu 1 May 14

Rememberscarborough says...

Does it really matter if a mosque has been there since the 70s? Property developers would be laughed out of a planning meeting if they wanted to build a huge block of apartments on the site of an old house arguing that people have lived there for decades and this is no different.

No other type of building would be allowed if it divided the community so much so why is a mosque any different?
Does it really matter if a mosque has been there since the 70s? Property developers would be laughed out of a planning meeting if they wanted to build a huge block of apartments on the site of an old house arguing that people have lived there for decades and this is no different. No other type of building would be allowed if it divided the community so much so why is a mosque any different? Rememberscarborough
  • Score: 49

4:49pm Thu 1 May 14

Reality50 says...

This is no standard mosque,it is a super mosque and must be opposed. To hold an immediate planning meeting tonight with no time for opponents to get organised is a disgrace. I don't want to hear the call of prayer every day. I bet Yasmin Qureshi supports this. On May 22nd tell the Labour Party to rot in hell.
This is no standard mosque,it is a super mosque and must be opposed. To hold an immediate planning meeting tonight with no time for opponents to get organised is a disgrace. I don't want to hear the call of prayer every day. I bet Yasmin Qureshi supports this. On May 22nd tell the Labour Party to rot in hell. Reality50
  • Score: 62

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