Blackburn Road closed as hundreds gather for North West Infidels' anti-mosque protest

Blackburn Road closed as hundreds gather for protest

North West Infidels and anti-fascists exchanged insults as they demonstrated in Blackburn Road, where plans have been approved to build a large mosque.

North West Infidels and anti-fascists exchanged insults as they demonstrated in Blackburn Road, where plans have been approved to build a large mosque.

A North West Infidels protester is arrested.

North West Infidels and anti-fascists exchanged insults as they demonstrated in Blackburn Road, where plans have been approved to build a large mosque.

North West Infidels and anti-fascists exchanged insults as they demonstrated in Blackburn Road, where plans have been approved to build a large mosque.

North West Infidels and anti-fascists exchanged insults as they demonstrated in Blackburn Road, where plans have been approved to build a large mosque.

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HUNDREDS of protestors closed off Blackburn Road for more than an hour over protests about the extension of a mosque in Astley Bridge.

The demonstration, organised by far-right organisation the North West Infidels, sparked a second protest by the Bolton Trades Union Council, Bolton Against Racism and members of the local community which was policed by hundreds of officers.

The NWI drafted in supporters from across the UK to object to the extension of the Taiyabah Islamic Centre on disused land off Canning Street.

Planning permission was granted in July to create 19 new classrooms as part of the new mosque, which will have a dome and minaret tower.

During the protest bottles, a firework and eggs were thrown at officers, who had been brought in from across the North West to police the protest.

Two people were arrested, including one woman who hit an officer in the face.

The opposing protestors were “penned in” on either side of Blackburn Road.

They hurled insults at each other, waved banners and chanted outside Wynsors World of Shoes in Blackburn Road.

Fencing was put up around the mosque during the protest, while a police blockade prevented people going down Canning Street.

Coaches were used to bring in the NWI demonstrators to prevent clashes between them and the local community.


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BNP activist Bryn Morgan addressed the crowds of protestors, urging them not to cause trouble and unite against “the scum”.

He refused to speak to The Bolton News.

Chris Chilton, vice chairman of Bolton Against Racism, said that while people may have genuine concerns about the mosque extension, the issue had been hijacked by the NWI and turned it into a “racist protest”.

He said: “Cultural diversity enriches our lives and doesn’t threaten us.

“It’s a diverse community Astley Bridge. I live here and we don’t want it spoiled by these racists coming to our town for their own political ends.”

A Crompton resident, who asked only to be named as Aishah, said the local community were determined to take a stand against the protestors.

She said: “They are using the new mosque as a cover for their racism and Islamaphobia, and it’s just not on.

“This is our town, and we are not going to stand for it. I don’t want our children to go through what our parents went through in the 1970s — this is 2014.”

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6:17pm Sat 2 Aug 14

ubidubuy-co.uk says...

I am not a racist by any means but the muslim community are stirring up trouble all over the country. This is a British country and should hold British values. People have the right to demonstrate but it seems that when the British demonstrate there is uproar amongst the muslim community. By being a free country everyone has a right to a peaceful demonstration but it seems okay for the Muslim community to demonstrate against Jews and other faiths but do not like it when people demonstrate against their values.
There will many more british people turning to UKIP and far right groups because of the way that islam is tryng to dictate their radical views amongst moderate Muslims and turning against the people who welcomed them into our once beautiful Island
I am not a racist by any means but the muslim community are stirring up trouble all over the country. This is a British country and should hold British values. People have the right to demonstrate but it seems that when the British demonstrate there is uproar amongst the muslim community. By being a free country everyone has a right to a peaceful demonstration but it seems okay for the Muslim community to demonstrate against Jews and other faiths but do not like it when people demonstrate against their values. There will many more british people turning to UKIP and far right groups because of the way that islam is tryng to dictate their radical views amongst moderate Muslims and turning against the people who welcomed them into our once beautiful Island ubidubuy-co.uk
  • Score: 219

6:20pm Sat 2 Aug 14

renovatedhouserunner says...

Bolton against racism? I bet this guy doesn't live in the area.
Why can't they make these mosques look like a building which looks like they fit in? Because they want to takeover the area? Push white working class out? Or perhaps just same reason Muslims have decided they now want to wear a burka, never saw one before 2001, they divide opinion and why do women who wear them still buy make-up and jewellery? It's all about taking control this mosque. That ain't racist, it's the truth.
Bolton against racism? I bet this guy doesn't live in the area. Why can't they make these mosques look like a building which looks like they fit in? Because they want to takeover the area? Push white working class out? Or perhaps just same reason Muslims have decided they now want to wear a burka, never saw one before 2001, they divide opinion and why do women who wear them still buy make-up and jewellery? It's all about taking control this mosque. That ain't racist, it's the truth. renovatedhouserunner
  • Score: 126

6:21pm Sat 2 Aug 14

mediachatshit says...

lol calm down
lol calm down mediachatshit
  • Score: -68

6:22pm Sat 2 Aug 14

FreedomOfSpeech1945 says...

Such a biased report. No wonder nobody buys the Bolton EVENING News anymore!
Such a biased report. No wonder nobody buys the Bolton EVENING News anymore! FreedomOfSpeech1945
  • Score: 112

6:23pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Rememberscarborough says...

The extremists may make the headlines but there is a great deal of concern that the indigenous white English people are now viewed as second class citizens and that any of the country's laws (planning etc) do not apply if you are from an ethnic minority.

Politicians may choose to accuse anyone who opposes this project as racist but that is a cop out and fails to deal with a far greater issue that will only get worse the longer it's ignored.

If this country isn't to descend in to chaos then all people need to integrate and expanding Muslim conclaves within the town isn't the way to do it.
The extremists may make the headlines but there is a great deal of concern that the indigenous white English people are now viewed as second class citizens and that any of the country's laws (planning etc) do not apply if you are from an ethnic minority. Politicians may choose to accuse anyone who opposes this project as racist but that is a cop out and fails to deal with a far greater issue that will only get worse the longer it's ignored. If this country isn't to descend in to chaos then all people need to integrate and expanding Muslim conclaves within the town isn't the way to do it. Rememberscarborough
  • Score: 178

6:32pm Sat 2 Aug 14

renovatedhouserunner says...

FreedomOfSpeech1945 wrote:
Such a biased report. No wonder nobody buys the Bolton EVENING News anymore!
Why is it biased?
[quote][p][bold]FreedomOfSpeech1945[/bold] wrote: Such a biased report. No wonder nobody buys the Bolton EVENING News anymore![/p][/quote]Why is it biased? renovatedhouserunner
  • Score: -29

6:40pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Lynn57 says...

There was a march today in London which was not reported by the BBC or the newspapers but it is circulating on Facebook. Muslims have been going around London carrying placards with slogans as follows. "Prepare for a European 9 11" "non Islam people should be beheaded" and other slogans designed to incite racial hatred. The pictures show a policeman standing by doing precisely nothing. This is not our country anymore.
There was a march today in London which was not reported by the BBC or the newspapers but it is circulating on Facebook. Muslims have been going around London carrying placards with slogans as follows. "Prepare for a European 9 11" "non Islam people should be beheaded" and other slogans designed to incite racial hatred. The pictures show a policeman standing by doing precisely nothing. This is not our country anymore. Lynn57
  • Score: 176

6:45pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Mr Happynotsad says...

Every country Muslims control there is civil war were they kill themselves shir Muslims and sunny Muslims. They don't want to inter grate when is this country going to realise this and understand they are the enemy within who are slowly taking over whole areas then alter the skyline with outrageous looking mosques which resemble Pakistani or any other Islamic state! We have had enough and hasn't the last election prove to you that we want our way of life and our traditions to come first in our own country!
Every country Muslims control there is civil war were they kill themselves shir Muslims and sunny Muslims. They don't want to inter grate when is this country going to realise this and understand they are the enemy within who are slowly taking over whole areas then alter the skyline with outrageous looking mosques which resemble Pakistani or any other Islamic state! We have had enough and hasn't the last election prove to you that we want our way of life and our traditions to come first in our own country! Mr Happynotsad
  • Score: 116

6:45pm Sat 2 Aug 14

pradagucci says...

Lynn57 wrote:
There was a march today in London which was not reported by the BBC or the newspapers but it is circulating on Facebook. Muslims have been going around London carrying placards with slogans as follows. "Prepare for a European 9 11" "non Islam people should be beheaded" and other slogans designed to incite racial hatred. The pictures show a policeman standing by doing precisely nothing. This is not our country anymore.
Prove it. Such a protest in 2014 cannot go undetected???????
[quote][p][bold]Lynn57[/bold] wrote: There was a march today in London which was not reported by the BBC or the newspapers but it is circulating on Facebook. Muslims have been going around London carrying placards with slogans as follows. "Prepare for a European 9 11" "non Islam people should be beheaded" and other slogans designed to incite racial hatred. The pictures show a policeman standing by doing precisely nothing. This is not our country anymore.[/p][/quote]Prove it. Such a protest in 2014 cannot go undetected??????? pradagucci
  • Score: 40

6:46pm Sat 2 Aug 14

FreedomOfSpeech1945 says...

Lynn57 wrote:
There was a march today in London which was not reported by the BBC or the newspapers but it is circulating on Facebook. Muslims have been going around London carrying placards with slogans as follows. "Prepare for a European 9 11" "non Islam people should be beheaded" and other slogans designed to incite racial hatred. The pictures show a policeman standing by doing precisely nothing. This is not our country anymore.
The Police should be able to remove them off our streets!
[quote][p][bold]Lynn57[/bold] wrote: There was a march today in London which was not reported by the BBC or the newspapers but it is circulating on Facebook. Muslims have been going around London carrying placards with slogans as follows. "Prepare for a European 9 11" "non Islam people should be beheaded" and other slogans designed to incite racial hatred. The pictures show a policeman standing by doing precisely nothing. This is not our country anymore.[/p][/quote]The Police should be able to remove them off our streets! FreedomOfSpeech1945
  • Score: 64

7:15pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Beyond News Forum says...

Lynn57 wrote:
There was a march today in London which was not reported by the BBC or the newspapers but it is circulating on Facebook. Muslims have been going around London carrying placards with slogans as follows. "Prepare for a European 9 11" "non Islam people should be beheaded" and other slogans designed to incite racial hatred. The pictures show a policeman standing by doing precisely nothing. This is not our country anymore.
Link please...
[quote][p][bold]Lynn57[/bold] wrote: There was a march today in London which was not reported by the BBC or the newspapers but it is circulating on Facebook. Muslims have been going around London carrying placards with slogans as follows. "Prepare for a European 9 11" "non Islam people should be beheaded" and other slogans designed to incite racial hatred. The pictures show a policeman standing by doing precisely nothing. This is not our country anymore.[/p][/quote]Link please... Beyond News Forum
  • Score: 34

7:16pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Mr Happynotsad says...

In twenty years time or sooner when shari law has been grated in the uk which it will happen all women will be treated like Muslims treat there own by making them cover up and control them. Public stoning for any women accused of adultery, child marriage all this is what Islam the medieval culture has to offer us yet anyone who challenges any of there culture and way of life us branded a racist to silence us well were sick of this excuse!
In twenty years time or sooner when shari law has been grated in the uk which it will happen all women will be treated like Muslims treat there own by making them cover up and control them. Public stoning for any women accused of adultery, child marriage all this is what Islam the medieval culture has to offer us yet anyone who challenges any of there culture and way of life us branded a racist to silence us well were sick of this excuse! Mr Happynotsad
  • Score: 80

7:24pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Lynn57 says...

pradagucci wrote:
Lynn57 wrote:
There was a march today in London which was not reported by the BBC or the newspapers but it is circulating on Facebook. Muslims have been going around London carrying placards with slogans as follows. "Prepare for a European 9 11" "non Islam people should be beheaded" and other slogans designed to incite racial hatred. The pictures show a policeman standing by doing precisely nothing. This is not our country anymore.
Prove it. Such a protest in 2014 cannot go undetected???????
I do not have to prove anything. I know what I have just read and the camera cannot lie. Neither is this undetected. It is detected and with photographic evidence which unfortunately I cannot copy and paste as it is on Facebook, it even shows the copper's shoulder number. However I will try to find the link then you can look yourself, there are nine photos in all. The BBC and the newspapers will not cover this nationally as it will incite unrest, especially since the beheading of our soldier Lee Rugby in cold blood.
[quote][p][bold]pradagucci[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lynn57[/bold] wrote: There was a march today in London which was not reported by the BBC or the newspapers but it is circulating on Facebook. Muslims have been going around London carrying placards with slogans as follows. "Prepare for a European 9 11" "non Islam people should be beheaded" and other slogans designed to incite racial hatred. The pictures show a policeman standing by doing precisely nothing. This is not our country anymore.[/p][/quote]Prove it. Such a protest in 2014 cannot go undetected???????[/p][/quote]I do not have to prove anything. I know what I have just read and the camera cannot lie. Neither is this undetected. It is detected and with photographic evidence which unfortunately I cannot copy and paste as it is on Facebook, it even shows the copper's shoulder number. However I will try to find the link then you can look yourself, there are nine photos in all. The BBC and the newspapers will not cover this nationally as it will incite unrest, especially since the beheading of our soldier Lee Rugby in cold blood. Lynn57
  • Score: 32

7:27pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Beyond News Forum says...

Lynn57 wrote:
pradagucci wrote:
Lynn57 wrote:
There was a march today in London which was not reported by the BBC or the newspapers but it is circulating on Facebook. Muslims have been going around London carrying placards with slogans as follows. "Prepare for a European 9 11" "non Islam people should be beheaded" and other slogans designed to incite racial hatred. The pictures show a policeman standing by doing precisely nothing. This is not our country anymore.
Prove it. Such a protest in 2014 cannot go undetected???????
I do not have to prove anything. I know what I have just read and the camera cannot lie. Neither is this undetected. It is detected and with photographic evidence which unfortunately I cannot copy and paste as it is on Facebook, it even shows the copper's shoulder number. However I will try to find the link then you can look yourself, there are nine photos in all. The BBC and the newspapers will not cover this nationally as it will incite unrest, especially since the beheading of our soldier Lee Rugby in cold blood.
I want that link - if indeed you are correct. I have a news item to write that the MSM have no balls to report on.

It will be fair, unbiased and factual if the facts are there.

No BS links please...
[quote][p][bold]Lynn57[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pradagucci[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lynn57[/bold] wrote: There was a march today in London which was not reported by the BBC or the newspapers but it is circulating on Facebook. Muslims have been going around London carrying placards with slogans as follows. "Prepare for a European 9 11" "non Islam people should be beheaded" and other slogans designed to incite racial hatred. The pictures show a policeman standing by doing precisely nothing. This is not our country anymore.[/p][/quote]Prove it. Such a protest in 2014 cannot go undetected???????[/p][/quote]I do not have to prove anything. I know what I have just read and the camera cannot lie. Neither is this undetected. It is detected and with photographic evidence which unfortunately I cannot copy and paste as it is on Facebook, it even shows the copper's shoulder number. However I will try to find the link then you can look yourself, there are nine photos in all. The BBC and the newspapers will not cover this nationally as it will incite unrest, especially since the beheading of our soldier Lee Rugby in cold blood.[/p][/quote]I want that link - if indeed you are correct. I have a news item to write that the MSM have no balls to report on. It will be fair, unbiased and factual if the facts are there. No BS links please... Beyond News Forum
  • Score: 29

7:31pm Sat 2 Aug 14

pradagucci says...

Beyond News Forum wrote:
Lynn57 wrote:
pradagucci wrote:
Lynn57 wrote:
There was a march today in London which was not reported by the BBC or the newspapers but it is circulating on Facebook. Muslims have been going around London carrying placards with slogans as follows. "Prepare for a European 9 11" "non Islam people should be beheaded" and other slogans designed to incite racial hatred. The pictures show a policeman standing by doing precisely nothing. This is not our country anymore.
Prove it. Such a protest in 2014 cannot go undetected???????
I do not have to prove anything. I know what I have just read and the camera cannot lie. Neither is this undetected. It is detected and with photographic evidence which unfortunately I cannot copy and paste as it is on Facebook, it even shows the copper's shoulder number. However I will try to find the link then you can look yourself, there are nine photos in all. The BBC and the newspapers will not cover this nationally as it will incite unrest, especially since the beheading of our soldier Lee Rugby in cold blood.
I want that link - if indeed you are correct. I have a news item to write that the MSM have no balls to report on.

It will be fair, unbiased and factual if the facts are there.

No BS links please...
Can't share the link it's a novel.
[quote][p][bold]Beyond News Forum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lynn57[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pradagucci[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lynn57[/bold] wrote: There was a march today in London which was not reported by the BBC or the newspapers but it is circulating on Facebook. Muslims have been going around London carrying placards with slogans as follows. "Prepare for a European 9 11" "non Islam people should be beheaded" and other slogans designed to incite racial hatred. The pictures show a policeman standing by doing precisely nothing. This is not our country anymore.[/p][/quote]Prove it. Such a protest in 2014 cannot go undetected???????[/p][/quote]I do not have to prove anything. I know what I have just read and the camera cannot lie. Neither is this undetected. It is detected and with photographic evidence which unfortunately I cannot copy and paste as it is on Facebook, it even shows the copper's shoulder number. However I will try to find the link then you can look yourself, there are nine photos in all. The BBC and the newspapers will not cover this nationally as it will incite unrest, especially since the beheading of our soldier Lee Rugby in cold blood.[/p][/quote]I want that link - if indeed you are correct. I have a news item to write that the MSM have no balls to report on. It will be fair, unbiased and factual if the facts are there. No BS links please...[/p][/quote]Can't share the link it's a novel. pradagucci
  • Score: -16

7:31pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Lynn57 says...

Beyond News Forum wrote:
Lynn57 wrote:
pradagucci wrote:
Lynn57 wrote:
There was a march today in London which was not reported by the BBC or the newspapers but it is circulating on Facebook. Muslims have been going around London carrying placards with slogans as follows. "Prepare for a European 9 11" "non Islam people should be beheaded" and other slogans designed to incite racial hatred. The pictures show a policeman standing by doing precisely nothing. This is not our country anymore.
Prove it. Such a protest in 2014 cannot go undetected???????
I do not have to prove anything. I know what I have just read and the camera cannot lie. Neither is this undetected. It is detected and with photographic evidence which unfortunately I cannot copy and paste as it is on Facebook, it even shows the copper's shoulder number. However I will try to find the link then you can look yourself, there are nine photos in all. The BBC and the newspapers will not cover this nationally as it will incite unrest, especially since the beheading of our soldier Lee Rugby in cold blood.
I want that link - if indeed you are correct. I have a news item to write that the MSM have no balls to report on.

It will be fair, unbiased and factual if the facts are there.

No BS links please...
STREETS OF LONDON Religion of peace demonstration. Factual and unbiased and all over the web.
[quote][p][bold]Beyond News Forum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lynn57[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pradagucci[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lynn57[/bold] wrote: There was a march today in London which was not reported by the BBC or the newspapers but it is circulating on Facebook. Muslims have been going around London carrying placards with slogans as follows. "Prepare for a European 9 11" "non Islam people should be beheaded" and other slogans designed to incite racial hatred. The pictures show a policeman standing by doing precisely nothing. This is not our country anymore.[/p][/quote]Prove it. Such a protest in 2014 cannot go undetected???????[/p][/quote]I do not have to prove anything. I know what I have just read and the camera cannot lie. Neither is this undetected. It is detected and with photographic evidence which unfortunately I cannot copy and paste as it is on Facebook, it even shows the copper's shoulder number. However I will try to find the link then you can look yourself, there are nine photos in all. The BBC and the newspapers will not cover this nationally as it will incite unrest, especially since the beheading of our soldier Lee Rugby in cold blood.[/p][/quote]I want that link - if indeed you are correct. I have a news item to write that the MSM have no balls to report on. It will be fair, unbiased and factual if the facts are there. No BS links please...[/p][/quote]STREETS OF LONDON Religion of peace demonstration. Factual and unbiased and all over the web. Lynn57
  • Score: -12

7:37pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Beyond News Forum says...

pradagucci wrote:
Beyond News Forum wrote:
Lynn57 wrote:
pradagucci wrote:
Lynn57 wrote:
There was a march today in London which was not reported by the BBC or the newspapers but it is circulating on Facebook. Muslims have been going around London carrying placards with slogans as follows. "Prepare for a European 9 11" "non Islam people should be beheaded" and other slogans designed to incite racial hatred. The pictures show a policeman standing by doing precisely nothing. This is not our country anymore.
Prove it. Such a protest in 2014 cannot go undetected???????
I do not have to prove anything. I know what I have just read and the camera cannot lie. Neither is this undetected. It is detected and with photographic evidence which unfortunately I cannot copy and paste as it is on Facebook, it even shows the copper's shoulder number. However I will try to find the link then you can look yourself, there are nine photos in all. The BBC and the newspapers will not cover this nationally as it will incite unrest, especially since the beheading of our soldier Lee Rugby in cold blood.
I want that link - if indeed you are correct. I have a news item to write that the MSM have no balls to report on.

It will be fair, unbiased and factual if the facts are there.

No BS links please...
Can't share the link it's a novel.
Probably... I have a huge inventory of real time news... just anti-Israal protests that have been largely peaceful.

Plus if my friends over in the CT and Alt world do not have that info and photos, nobody has.
[quote][p][bold]pradagucci[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Beyond News Forum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lynn57[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pradagucci[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lynn57[/bold] wrote: There was a march today in London which was not reported by the BBC or the newspapers but it is circulating on Facebook. Muslims have been going around London carrying placards with slogans as follows. "Prepare for a European 9 11" "non Islam people should be beheaded" and other slogans designed to incite racial hatred. The pictures show a policeman standing by doing precisely nothing. This is not our country anymore.[/p][/quote]Prove it. Such a protest in 2014 cannot go undetected???????[/p][/quote]I do not have to prove anything. I know what I have just read and the camera cannot lie. Neither is this undetected. It is detected and with photographic evidence which unfortunately I cannot copy and paste as it is on Facebook, it even shows the copper's shoulder number. However I will try to find the link then you can look yourself, there are nine photos in all. The BBC and the newspapers will not cover this nationally as it will incite unrest, especially since the beheading of our soldier Lee Rugby in cold blood.[/p][/quote]I want that link - if indeed you are correct. I have a news item to write that the MSM have no balls to report on. It will be fair, unbiased and factual if the facts are there. No BS links please...[/p][/quote]Can't share the link it's a novel.[/p][/quote]Probably... I have a huge inventory of real time news... just anti-Israal protests that have been largely peaceful. Plus if my friends over in the CT and Alt world do not have that info and photos, nobody has. Beyond News Forum
  • Score: 9

7:38pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Heeell says...

Just googled "muslim march london" and clicked news - incredibly (1) not one link to a march today. Surely the world wide web would have something of the event Lynn57 is talking about? And no, I don't think big brother is that big or that powerful, that any and all reference to it could be removed.
Just googled "muslim march london" and clicked news - incredibly (1) not one link to a march today. Surely the world wide web would have something of the event Lynn57 is talking about? And no, I don't think big brother is that big or that powerful, that any and all reference to it could be removed. Heeell
  • Score: 40

7:40pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Beyond News Forum says...

Lynn57 wrote:
Beyond News Forum wrote:
Lynn57 wrote:
pradagucci wrote:
Lynn57 wrote:
There was a march today in London which was not reported by the BBC or the newspapers but it is circulating on Facebook. Muslims have been going around London carrying placards with slogans as follows. "Prepare for a European 9 11" "non Islam people should be beheaded" and other slogans designed to incite racial hatred. The pictures show a policeman standing by doing precisely nothing. This is not our country anymore.
Prove it. Such a protest in 2014 cannot go undetected???????
I do not have to prove anything. I know what I have just read and the camera cannot lie. Neither is this undetected. It is detected and with photographic evidence which unfortunately I cannot copy and paste as it is on Facebook, it even shows the copper's shoulder number. However I will try to find the link then you can look yourself, there are nine photos in all. The BBC and the newspapers will not cover this nationally as it will incite unrest, especially since the beheading of our soldier Lee Rugby in cold blood.
I want that link - if indeed you are correct. I have a news item to write that the MSM have no balls to report on.

It will be fair, unbiased and factual if the facts are there.

No BS links please...
STREETS OF LONDON Religion of peace demonstration. Factual and unbiased and all over the web.
Today... not bloody 10-years ago LOL.

I already have the images in the prehistoric files. If you you can give me fresh I will do the article on it... if not then it didn't happen.
[quote][p][bold]Lynn57[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Beyond News Forum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lynn57[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pradagucci[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lynn57[/bold] wrote: There was a march today in London which was not reported by the BBC or the newspapers but it is circulating on Facebook. Muslims have been going around London carrying placards with slogans as follows. "Prepare for a European 9 11" "non Islam people should be beheaded" and other slogans designed to incite racial hatred. The pictures show a policeman standing by doing precisely nothing. This is not our country anymore.[/p][/quote]Prove it. Such a protest in 2014 cannot go undetected???????[/p][/quote]I do not have to prove anything. I know what I have just read and the camera cannot lie. Neither is this undetected. It is detected and with photographic evidence which unfortunately I cannot copy and paste as it is on Facebook, it even shows the copper's shoulder number. However I will try to find the link then you can look yourself, there are nine photos in all. The BBC and the newspapers will not cover this nationally as it will incite unrest, especially since the beheading of our soldier Lee Rugby in cold blood.[/p][/quote]I want that link - if indeed you are correct. I have a news item to write that the MSM have no balls to report on. It will be fair, unbiased and factual if the facts are there. No BS links please...[/p][/quote]STREETS OF LONDON Religion of peace demonstration. Factual and unbiased and all over the web.[/p][/quote]Today... not bloody 10-years ago LOL. I already have the images in the prehistoric files. If you you can give me fresh I will do the article on it... if not then it didn't happen. Beyond News Forum
  • Score: 19

7:40pm Sat 2 Aug 14

piszoff says...

2001 Oldham ring any bells?
2001 Oldham ring any bells? piszoff
  • Score: 10

7:40pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Citizen Cane says...

pradagucci wrote:
Lynn57 wrote:
There was a march today in London which was not reported by the BBC or the newspapers but it is circulating on Facebook. Muslims have been going around London carrying placards with slogans as follows. "Prepare for a European 9 11" "non Islam people should be beheaded" and other slogans designed to incite racial hatred. The pictures show a policeman standing by doing precisely nothing. This is not our country anymore.
Prove it. Such a protest in 2014 cannot go undetected???????
...do you deny the reported and documented pictures of a young muslim male in London a few weeks ago with a scrawled statement saying "Hitler was right" (targeted at the Jewish community) - racist : yes?

- do you deny the documented increase in hate crimes by young muslim men against Jewish people and synagogues in the UK, including in Manchester?

...neither of these have gone undetected
[quote][p][bold]pradagucci[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lynn57[/bold] wrote: There was a march today in London which was not reported by the BBC or the newspapers but it is circulating on Facebook. Muslims have been going around London carrying placards with slogans as follows. "Prepare for a European 9 11" "non Islam people should be beheaded" and other slogans designed to incite racial hatred. The pictures show a policeman standing by doing precisely nothing. This is not our country anymore.[/p][/quote]Prove it. Such a protest in 2014 cannot go undetected???????[/p][/quote]...do you deny the reported and documented pictures of a young muslim male in London a few weeks ago with a scrawled statement saying "Hitler was right" (targeted at the Jewish community) - racist : yes? - do you deny the documented increase in hate crimes by young muslim men against Jewish people and synagogues in the UK, including in Manchester? ...neither of these have gone undetected Citizen Cane
  • Score: -10

7:41pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Yougotredonyou says...

Heeell wrote:
Just googled "muslim march london" and clicked news - incredibly (1) not one link to a march today. Surely the world wide web would have something of the event Lynn57 is talking about? And no, I don't think big brother is that big or that powerful, that any and all reference to it could be removed.
I've just done the same, nothing to be found, wonder why?? Propaganda time?
[quote][p][bold]Heeell[/bold] wrote: Just googled "muslim march london" and clicked news - incredibly (1) not one link to a march today. Surely the world wide web would have something of the event Lynn57 is talking about? And no, I don't think big brother is that big or that powerful, that any and all reference to it could be removed.[/p][/quote]I've just done the same, nothing to be found, wonder why?? Propaganda time? Yougotredonyou
  • Score: 21

7:46pm Sat 2 Aug 14

united99 says...

Lynn you are a liar - don't come out with b------t facts.
Saturday night drinking has started early for you - carry on hope you make it home tonight after you've had a few beers.....lol
Lynn you are a liar - don't come out with b------t facts. Saturday night drinking has started early for you - carry on hope you make it home tonight after you've had a few beers.....lol united99
  • Score: 27

7:49pm Sat 2 Aug 14

boltonfree says...

I am white English and I think I must be missing something as I'm not scared about a mosque being built and in no way do I feel like a second class citizen. It makes me laugh people spouting nonsense that all Muslim countries are in civil war as a non Muslim country has never had a civil war? Most of the major wars have been caused by non muslims so I think we must be as bad as them according to some. The edl, bnp or whatever they want to call themselves just need to leave bolton alone as aloe of people don't want them here. Only 200 people that just shows alot of people are keyboard warriors who probably play on call of duty pretending they are protecting England what a joke.
I am white English and I think I must be missing something as I'm not scared about a mosque being built and in no way do I feel like a second class citizen. It makes me laugh people spouting nonsense that all Muslim countries are in civil war as a non Muslim country has never had a civil war? Most of the major wars have been caused by non muslims so I think we must be as bad as them according to some. The edl, bnp or whatever they want to call themselves just need to leave bolton alone as aloe of people don't want them here. Only 200 people that just shows alot of people are keyboard warriors who probably play on call of duty pretending they are protecting England what a joke. boltonfree
  • Score: 29

7:49pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Beyond News Forum says...

Citizen Cane wrote:
pradagucci wrote:
Lynn57 wrote:
There was a march today in London which was not reported by the BBC or the newspapers but it is circulating on Facebook. Muslims have been going around London carrying placards with slogans as follows. "Prepare for a European 9 11" "non Islam people should be beheaded" and other slogans designed to incite racial hatred. The pictures show a policeman standing by doing precisely nothing. This is not our country anymore.
Prove it. Such a protest in 2014 cannot go undetected???????
...do you deny the reported and documented pictures of a young muslim male in London a few weeks ago with a scrawled statement saying "Hitler was right" (targeted at the Jewish community) - racist : yes?

- do you deny the documented increase in hate crimes by young muslim men against Jewish people and synagogues in the UK, including in Manchester?

...neither of these have gone undetected
That is not what is being argued about... yes those happened and are real and largely went unpublished.

The link we want is that of the apparent protest from today.

I'm with you Cane but if somebody wants to get a point across, then it should be valid, linkable and not BS.

If it did happen today... I want that link. My people do not shirk from the truth whether it is a Christian Crusade or a Jihad on behalf of a false flag operation for America against a legally and democratically voted for president in Syria.

Why BS? There is no point... it makes the poster sound like an idiot... but they are anons so it matters not!
[quote][p][bold]Citizen Cane[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pradagucci[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lynn57[/bold] wrote: There was a march today in London which was not reported by the BBC or the newspapers but it is circulating on Facebook. Muslims have been going around London carrying placards with slogans as follows. "Prepare for a European 9 11" "non Islam people should be beheaded" and other slogans designed to incite racial hatred. The pictures show a policeman standing by doing precisely nothing. This is not our country anymore.[/p][/quote]Prove it. Such a protest in 2014 cannot go undetected???????[/p][/quote]...do you deny the reported and documented pictures of a young muslim male in London a few weeks ago with a scrawled statement saying "Hitler was right" (targeted at the Jewish community) - racist : yes? - do you deny the documented increase in hate crimes by young muslim men against Jewish people and synagogues in the UK, including in Manchester? ...neither of these have gone undetected[/p][/quote]That is not what is being argued about... yes those happened and are real and largely went unpublished. The link we want is that of the apparent protest from today. I'm with you Cane but if somebody wants to get a point across, then it should be valid, linkable and not BS. If it did happen today... I want that link. My people do not shirk from the truth whether it is a Christian Crusade or a Jihad on behalf of a false flag operation for America against a legally and democratically voted for president in Syria. Why BS? There is no point... it makes the poster sound like an idiot... but they are anons so it matters not! Beyond News Forum
  • Score: 13

8:00pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Robert2012 says...

Bolton free...

Especially for you....

http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=psZBaJU_C
vo
Bolton free... Especially for you.... http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=psZBaJU_C vo Robert2012
  • Score: 10

8:14pm Sat 2 Aug 14

pradagucci says...

Citizen Cane wrote:
pradagucci wrote:
Lynn57 wrote:
There was a march today in London which was not reported by the BBC or the newspapers but it is circulating on Facebook. Muslims have been going around London carrying placards with slogans as follows. "Prepare for a European 9 11" "non Islam people should be beheaded" and other slogans designed to incite racial hatred. The pictures show a policeman standing by doing precisely nothing. This is not our country anymore.
Prove it. Such a protest in 2014 cannot go undetected???????
...do you deny the reported and documented pictures of a young muslim male in London a few weeks ago with a scrawled statement saying "Hitler was right" (targeted at the Jewish community) - racist : yes?

- do you deny the documented increase in hate crimes by young muslim men against Jewish people and synagogues in the UK, including in Manchester?

...neither of these have gone undetected
Do you deny 1650 woman and children killed by Israel? Last week a play area with kids playing got blown and killed 15 kids? With all the technology Israel has you can't say it was an accident, a school got bombed which the UN told Israel it's a school, still they go ahead and kill 35 kids again. Most of Europe call Israel's attack a war crime, why does Britain not invade Israel like they did with afgan and Iraq. Proper double standards.
[quote][p][bold]Citizen Cane[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pradagucci[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lynn57[/bold] wrote: There was a march today in London which was not reported by the BBC or the newspapers but it is circulating on Facebook. Muslims have been going around London carrying placards with slogans as follows. "Prepare for a European 9 11" "non Islam people should be beheaded" and other slogans designed to incite racial hatred. The pictures show a policeman standing by doing precisely nothing. This is not our country anymore.[/p][/quote]Prove it. Such a protest in 2014 cannot go undetected???????[/p][/quote]...do you deny the reported and documented pictures of a young muslim male in London a few weeks ago with a scrawled statement saying "Hitler was right" (targeted at the Jewish community) - racist : yes? - do you deny the documented increase in hate crimes by young muslim men against Jewish people and synagogues in the UK, including in Manchester? ...neither of these have gone undetected[/p][/quote]Do you deny 1650 woman and children killed by Israel? Last week a play area with kids playing got blown and killed 15 kids? With all the technology Israel has you can't say it was an accident, a school got bombed which the UN told Israel it's a school, still they go ahead and kill 35 kids again. Most of Europe call Israel's attack a war crime, why does Britain not invade Israel like they did with afgan and Iraq. Proper double standards. pradagucci
  • Score: 24

8:18pm Sat 2 Aug 14

pradagucci says...

Citizen Cane wrote:
pradagucci wrote:
Lynn57 wrote:
There was a march today in London which was not reported by the BBC or the newspapers but it is circulating on Facebook. Muslims have been going around London carrying placards with slogans as follows. "Prepare for a European 9 11" "non Islam people should be beheaded" and other slogans designed to incite racial hatred. The pictures show a policeman standing by doing precisely nothing. This is not our country anymore.
Prove it. Such a protest in 2014 cannot go undetected???????
...do you deny the reported and documented pictures of a young muslim male in London a few weeks ago with a scrawled statement saying "Hitler was right" (targeted at the Jewish community) - racist : yes?

- do you deny the documented increase in hate crimes by young muslim men against Jewish people and synagogues in the UK, including in Manchester?

...neither of these have gone undetected
Changing the subject again. Give us proof on your alleged protest today or better you go to sleep. Zzzzzzzzz
[quote][p][bold]Citizen Cane[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pradagucci[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lynn57[/bold] wrote: There was a march today in London which was not reported by the BBC or the newspapers but it is circulating on Facebook. Muslims have been going around London carrying placards with slogans as follows. "Prepare for a European 9 11" "non Islam people should be beheaded" and other slogans designed to incite racial hatred. The pictures show a policeman standing by doing precisely nothing. This is not our country anymore.[/p][/quote]Prove it. Such a protest in 2014 cannot go undetected???????[/p][/quote]...do you deny the reported and documented pictures of a young muslim male in London a few weeks ago with a scrawled statement saying "Hitler was right" (targeted at the Jewish community) - racist : yes? - do you deny the documented increase in hate crimes by young muslim men against Jewish people and synagogues in the UK, including in Manchester? ...neither of these have gone undetected[/p][/quote]Changing the subject again. Give us proof on your alleged protest today or better you go to sleep. Zzzzzzzzz pradagucci
  • Score: 19

8:19pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Beyond News Forum says...

Actually....

Quote: 'BNP activist Bryn Morgan addressed the crowds of protestors, urging them not to cause trouble and unite against “the scum”. - unquote.

Elaine has been very clever in writing this without the full context of the wording.

Maybe she is butt-hurt that Bryn did not speak to her.
Actually.... Quote: 'BNP activist Bryn Morgan addressed the crowds of protestors, urging them not to cause trouble and unite against “the scum”. - unquote. Elaine has been very clever in writing this without the full context of the wording. Maybe she is butt-hurt that Bryn did not speak to her. Beyond News Forum
  • Score: -3

8:19pm Sat 2 Aug 14

united99 says...

boltonfree wrote:
I am white English and I think I must be missing something as I'm not scared about a mosque being built and in no way do I feel like a second class citizen. It makes me laugh people spouting nonsense that all Muslim countries are in civil war as a non Muslim country has never had a civil war? Most of the major wars have been caused by non muslims so I think we must be as bad as them according to some. The edl, bnp or whatever they want to call themselves just need to leave bolton alone as aloe of people don't want them here. Only 200 people that just shows alot of people are keyboard warriors who probably play on call of duty pretending they are protecting England what a joke.
Well said - how anybody can be feel threatened is beyond me - nobody walks round Britain telling you what you can do and can't do.
You can go to the church or the mosque that's what they are theirs for.
[quote][p][bold]boltonfree[/bold] wrote: I am white English and I think I must be missing something as I'm not scared about a mosque being built and in no way do I feel like a second class citizen. It makes me laugh people spouting nonsense that all Muslim countries are in civil war as a non Muslim country has never had a civil war? Most of the major wars have been caused by non muslims so I think we must be as bad as them according to some. The edl, bnp or whatever they want to call themselves just need to leave bolton alone as aloe of people don't want them here. Only 200 people that just shows alot of people are keyboard warriors who probably play on call of duty pretending they are protecting England what a joke.[/p][/quote]Well said - how anybody can be feel threatened is beyond me - nobody walks round Britain telling you what you can do and can't do. You can go to the church or the mosque that's what they are theirs for. united99
  • Score: 14

8:21pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Robert2012 says...

Perhaps Hamas should stop launching rockets from schools...and using its own people women and children as a means of protection....that's double standards for you....

I don't give a shiny **** for the Jews or the Arabs....like Ireland....go ahead and kill each other in the name of some mumbo jumbo b$€^^?cks religion......

Idiots killing each other over religion is like a atheist arguing which was the best Harry Potter movie...
Perhaps Hamas should stop launching rockets from schools...and using its own people women and children as a means of protection....that's double standards for you.... I don't give a shiny **** for the Jews or the Arabs....like Ireland....go ahead and kill each other in the name of some mumbo jumbo b$€^^?cks religion...... Idiots killing each other over religion is like a atheist arguing which was the best Harry Potter movie... Robert2012
  • Score: -21

8:25pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Robert2012 says...

united99 wrote:
boltonfree wrote:
I am white English and I think I must be missing something as I'm not scared about a mosque being built and in no way do I feel like a second class citizen. It makes me laugh people spouting nonsense that all Muslim countries are in civil war as a non Muslim country has never had a civil war? Most of the major wars have been caused by non muslims so I think we must be as bad as them according to some. The edl, bnp or whatever they want to call themselves just need to leave bolton alone as aloe of people don't want them here. Only 200 people that just shows alot of people are keyboard warriors who probably play on call of duty pretending they are protecting England what a joke.
Well said - how anybody can be feel threatened is beyond me - nobody walks round Britain telling you what you can do and can't do.
You can go to the church or the mosque that's what they are theirs for.
So you have ignored my link above.....

Probably missed it as you had your head buried in the sand
[quote][p][bold]united99[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]boltonfree[/bold] wrote: I am white English and I think I must be missing something as I'm not scared about a mosque being built and in no way do I feel like a second class citizen. It makes me laugh people spouting nonsense that all Muslim countries are in civil war as a non Muslim country has never had a civil war? Most of the major wars have been caused by non muslims so I think we must be as bad as them according to some. The edl, bnp or whatever they want to call themselves just need to leave bolton alone as aloe of people don't want them here. Only 200 people that just shows alot of people are keyboard warriors who probably play on call of duty pretending they are protecting England what a joke.[/p][/quote]Well said - how anybody can be feel threatened is beyond me - nobody walks round Britain telling you what you can do and can't do. You can go to the church or the mosque that's what they are theirs for.[/p][/quote]So you have ignored my link above..... Probably missed it as you had your head buried in the sand Robert2012
  • Score: -1

8:26pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Mick England says...

Is islam a race?
Is islam a race? Mick England
  • Score: 14

8:28pm Sat 2 Aug 14

FreedomOfSpeech1945 says...

united99 wrote:
Lynn you are a liar - don't come out with b------t facts.
Saturday night drinking has started early for you - carry on hope you make it home tonight after you've had a few beers.....lol
Yeah unless you get her in your taxi.......
[quote][p][bold]united99[/bold] wrote: Lynn you are a liar - don't come out with b------t facts. Saturday night drinking has started early for you - carry on hope you make it home tonight after you've had a few beers.....lol[/p][/quote]Yeah unless you get her in your taxi....... FreedomOfSpeech1945
  • Score: -5

8:31pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Mick England says...

Is islamophobia a constructed word aimed at silencing the world against it?
Is islamophobia a constructed word aimed at silencing the world against it? Mick England
  • Score: 28

8:33pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Beyond News Forum says...

pradagucci wrote:
Citizen Cane wrote:
pradagucci wrote:
Lynn57 wrote:
There was a march today in London which was not reported by the BBC or the newspapers but it is circulating on Facebook. Muslims have been going around London carrying placards with slogans as follows. "Prepare for a European 9 11" "non Islam people should be beheaded" and other slogans designed to incite racial hatred. The pictures show a policeman standing by doing precisely nothing. This is not our country anymore.
Prove it. Such a protest in 2014 cannot go undetected???????
...do you deny the reported and documented pictures of a young muslim male in London a few weeks ago with a scrawled statement saying "Hitler was right" (targeted at the Jewish community) - racist : yes?

- do you deny the documented increase in hate crimes by young muslim men against Jewish people and synagogues in the UK, including in Manchester?

...neither of these have gone undetected
Do you deny 1650 woman and children killed by Israel? Last week a play area with kids playing got blown and killed 15 kids? With all the technology Israel has you can't say it was an accident, a school got bombed which the UN told Israel it's a school, still they go ahead and kill 35 kids again. Most of Europe call Israel's attack a war crime, why does Britain not invade Israel like they did with afgan and Iraq. Proper double standards.
Nobody here is denying that let alone talking about it... let us save that for the next war... the one that will involve the whole of the Middle East Jihad movements moving in on Israel... but that is the Alternative News grapevine and should not be mention on mainstream news services shhhhhhhh....

Now back to the subject at at hand...

Does anyone have a valid way of fixing this situation we are in?

A minority of Muslims do not wish integration and want Shariah Law... we get that.

A majority of YOUNG British Muslims couldn't give a sh!t and only go to Mosque to appease their parents, they smoke weed, drink alcohol, wear western clothing and are scared shitle$$ of being beatenm or cast out of their families.

I know young Muslim friends who could not give two brass monkey **** if you are gay, black white, pink with purple spots.

I know Muslims who are equally as hateful towards whites and black, green, gay, purple spots because of a more extreme upbringing or because of the differences in our stupid social order of 'I am a better human being than you are' attitudes.

At the end of the day, don't build Mosques, don't build churches and don't build Temples or Synagogues - They all cause trouble and are a sign of social exclusion and a lack of coherence.

WTF? Humans are fecking crazy with their religions and ideologies...

Probably the exact reason humans are seen as unintelligent parasites by those from beyond our planet...
[quote][p][bold]pradagucci[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Citizen Cane[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pradagucci[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lynn57[/bold] wrote: There was a march today in London which was not reported by the BBC or the newspapers but it is circulating on Facebook. Muslims have been going around London carrying placards with slogans as follows. "Prepare for a European 9 11" "non Islam people should be beheaded" and other slogans designed to incite racial hatred. The pictures show a policeman standing by doing precisely nothing. This is not our country anymore.[/p][/quote]Prove it. Such a protest in 2014 cannot go undetected???????[/p][/quote]...do you deny the reported and documented pictures of a young muslim male in London a few weeks ago with a scrawled statement saying "Hitler was right" (targeted at the Jewish community) - racist : yes? - do you deny the documented increase in hate crimes by young muslim men against Jewish people and synagogues in the UK, including in Manchester? ...neither of these have gone undetected[/p][/quote]Do you deny 1650 woman and children killed by Israel? Last week a play area with kids playing got blown and killed 15 kids? With all the technology Israel has you can't say it was an accident, a school got bombed which the UN told Israel it's a school, still they go ahead and kill 35 kids again. Most of Europe call Israel's attack a war crime, why does Britain not invade Israel like they did with afgan and Iraq. Proper double standards.[/p][/quote]Nobody here is denying that let alone talking about it... let us save that for the next war... the one that will involve the whole of the Middle East Jihad movements moving in on Israel... but that is the Alternative News grapevine and should not be mention on mainstream news services shhhhhhhh.... Now back to the subject at at hand... Does anyone have a valid way of fixing this situation we are in? A minority of Muslims do not wish integration and want Shariah Law... we get that. A majority of YOUNG British Muslims couldn't give a sh!t and only go to Mosque to appease their parents, they smoke weed, drink alcohol, wear western clothing and are scared shitle$$ of being beatenm or cast out of their families. I know young Muslim friends who could not give two brass monkey **** if you are gay, black white, pink with purple spots. I know Muslims who are equally as hateful towards whites and black, green, gay, purple spots because of a more extreme upbringing or because of the differences in our stupid social order of 'I am a better human being than you are' attitudes. At the end of the day, don't build Mosques, don't build churches and don't build Temples or Synagogues - They all cause trouble and are a sign of social exclusion and a lack of coherence. WTF? Humans are fecking crazy with their religions and ideologies... Probably the exact reason humans are seen as unintelligent parasites by those from beyond our planet... Beyond News Forum
  • Score: 14

8:34pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Mick England says...

Take a look around all you sympathisers, and ask yourself are they peaceful?
Take a look around all you sympathisers, and ask yourself are they peaceful? Mick England
  • Score: 9

8:36pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Beyond News Forum says...

Mick England wrote:
Is islamophobia a constructed word aimed at silencing the world against it?
Have you ever seen a person too afraid to go outside for fear of seeing a Muslim?

It is a fecking stupid word associated with BS propaganda and fearmongering. Invented after 9-11.
[quote][p][bold]Mick England[/bold] wrote: Is islamophobia a constructed word aimed at silencing the world against it?[/p][/quote]Have you ever seen a person too afraid to go outside for fear of seeing a Muslim? It is a fecking stupid word associated with BS propaganda and fearmongering. Invented after 9-11. Beyond News Forum
  • Score: 32

8:41pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Robert2012 says...

Beyond News Forum wrote:
Mick England wrote:
Is islamophobia a constructed word aimed at silencing the world against it?
Have you ever seen a person too afraid to go outside for fear of seeing a Muslim?

It is a fecking stupid word associated with BS propaganda and fearmongering. Invented after 9-11.
You ignoring the link above as well?
[quote][p][bold]Beyond News Forum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mick England[/bold] wrote: Is islamophobia a constructed word aimed at silencing the world against it?[/p][/quote]Have you ever seen a person too afraid to go outside for fear of seeing a Muslim? It is a fecking stupid word associated with BS propaganda and fearmongering. Invented after 9-11.[/p][/quote]You ignoring the link above as well? Robert2012
  • Score: -14

8:44pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Beyond News Forum says...

Mick England wrote:
Take a look around all you sympathisers, and ask yourself are they peaceful?
Equally our government is a piece of sh!t joke that incurs on foreign soil for the profit of their capitalist vulture friends. That hasn't changed for a Millennia.

Thing is... what do we the people do about it? Stand up and unite against government law and oppression of British citizens, black white, brown, gay or hetero? Or do we continue down the slippery slope of de-evolution and extinction at our own hands?

Our call... as fellow humans. (It does not include those who chose to be sub-human shyte)
[quote][p][bold]Mick England[/bold] wrote: Take a look around all you sympathisers, and ask yourself are they peaceful?[/p][/quote]Equally our government is a piece of sh!t joke that incurs on foreign soil for the profit of their capitalist vulture friends. That hasn't changed for a Millennia. Thing is... what do we the people do about it? Stand up and unite against government law and oppression of British citizens, black white, brown, gay or hetero? Or do we continue down the slippery slope of de-evolution and extinction at our own hands? Our call... as fellow humans. (It does not include those who chose to be sub-human shyte) Beyond News Forum
  • Score: 9

8:46pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Beyond News Forum says...

Robert2012 wrote:
Beyond News Forum wrote:
Mick England wrote:
Is islamophobia a constructed word aimed at silencing the world against it?
Have you ever seen a person too afraid to go outside for fear of seeing a Muslim?

It is a fecking stupid word associated with BS propaganda and fearmongering. Invented after 9-11.
You ignoring the link above as well?
Nope I collect them... I can point you to far more. But I choose not too.

I am as big a conspirotard and anti-religiotard, patriot as you... I am looking for answers... I am sick of the BS already.
[quote][p][bold]Robert2012[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Beyond News Forum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mick England[/bold] wrote: Is islamophobia a constructed word aimed at silencing the world against it?[/p][/quote]Have you ever seen a person too afraid to go outside for fear of seeing a Muslim? It is a fecking stupid word associated with BS propaganda and fearmongering. Invented after 9-11.[/p][/quote]You ignoring the link above as well?[/p][/quote]Nope I collect them... I can point you to far more. But I choose not too. I am as big a conspirotard and anti-religiotard, patriot as you... I am looking for answers... I am sick of the BS already. Beyond News Forum
  • Score: 5

8:47pm Sat 2 Aug 14

BoltonLancs says...

Wow, what a surprise, no pics of the missile throwing Muslim and Ultra-fascist UAF side. Local rag reporter isn't a Leftie at all ZZZzzz...

I reckon this reporter should one day do a piece on the situation other nearby northern towns like Bradford, Burnley, Oldham and Blackburn are in regarding Muslim communities mixing well into British life; how many speak English on a regular basis; how many socialise with local whites/Hindus and other non-Muslims regularly; and ask why prominent regional Labour MPs and Councillors, like Jack Straw, are, and will forever be, perpetually striving to resolve the un-ending problem of non-integration.
Please reporter, earn your keep.!
Wow, what a surprise, no pics of the missile throwing Muslim and Ultra-fascist UAF side. Local rag reporter isn't a Leftie at all ZZZzzz... I reckon this reporter should one day do a piece on the situation other nearby northern towns like Bradford, Burnley, Oldham and Blackburn are in regarding Muslim communities mixing well into British life; how many speak English on a regular basis; how many socialise with local whites/Hindus and other non-Muslims regularly; and ask why prominent regional Labour MPs and Councillors, like Jack Straw, are, and will forever be, perpetually striving to resolve the un-ending problem of non-integration. Please reporter, earn your keep.! BoltonLancs
  • Score: 27

8:48pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Beyond News Forum says...

Robert2012 wrote:
Beyond News Forum wrote:
Mick England wrote:
Is islamophobia a constructed word aimed at silencing the world against it?
Have you ever seen a person too afraid to go outside for fear of seeing a Muslim?

It is a fecking stupid word associated with BS propaganda and fearmongering. Invented after 9-11.
You ignoring the link above as well?
To add... I was actually backing up what you said... it is how you read it.

In laymans... Islamophobia = BS
[quote][p][bold]Robert2012[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Beyond News Forum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mick England[/bold] wrote: Is islamophobia a constructed word aimed at silencing the world against it?[/p][/quote]Have you ever seen a person too afraid to go outside for fear of seeing a Muslim? It is a fecking stupid word associated with BS propaganda and fearmongering. Invented after 9-11.[/p][/quote]You ignoring the link above as well?[/p][/quote]To add... I was actually backing up what you said... it is how you read it. In laymans... Islamophobia = BS Beyond News Forum
  • Score: 8

8:53pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Mick England says...

We denounce islam full stop, it's a hate filled totalitarian ideology that will never evolve. All around the world we have jesus worshippers but they don't go around dressed in bed sheets? Islam isn't about progression its about regression.
We denounce islam full stop, it's a hate filled totalitarian ideology that will never evolve. All around the world we have jesus worshippers but they don't go around dressed in bed sheets? Islam isn't about progression its about regression. Mick England
  • Score: 11

8:57pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Beyond News Forum says...

One of my writers today wrote an article... one paragraph summed up a lot in life that people forget.

Quote: ""Yeah, yeah," I said. If they can be happy with less, good for them. But this is my happiness I'm talking about. And, boy, I need a lot to be happy. A lot more than what's already on my pretty long list. You want me to be happy, don't you? Well, make me happy, then. Give me the whole world." - Unquote

Poetic and quite brilliant.
One of my writers today wrote an article... one paragraph summed up a lot in life that people forget. Quote: ""Yeah, yeah," I said. If they can be happy with less, good for them. But this is my happiness I'm talking about. And, boy, I need a lot to be happy. A lot more than what's already on my pretty long list. You want me to be happy, don't you? Well, make me happy, then. Give me the whole world." - Unquote Poetic and quite brilliant. Beyond News Forum
  • Score: 3

9:00pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Beyond News Forum says...

Mick England wrote:
We denounce islam full stop, it's a hate filled totalitarian ideology that will never evolve. All around the world we have jesus worshippers but they don't go around dressed in bed sheets? Islam isn't about progression its about regression.
Actually let me correct you Mick...

Religion no matter what it is, is about regression, oppression, castigation, and to put it all in the short form... fecking party poopers!
[quote][p][bold]Mick England[/bold] wrote: We denounce islam full stop, it's a hate filled totalitarian ideology that will never evolve. All around the world we have jesus worshippers but they don't go around dressed in bed sheets? Islam isn't about progression its about regression.[/p][/quote]Actually let me correct you Mick... Religion no matter what it is, is about regression, oppression, castigation, and to put it all in the short form... fecking party poopers! Beyond News Forum
  • Score: 9

9:02pm Sat 2 Aug 14

albertmodley says...

BoltonLancs wrote:
Wow, what a surprise, no pics of the missile throwing Muslim and Ultra-fascist UAF side. Local rag reporter isn't a Leftie at all ZZZzzz...

I reckon this reporter should one day do a piece on the situation other nearby northern towns like Bradford, Burnley, Oldham and Blackburn are in regarding Muslim communities mixing well into British life; how many speak English on a regular basis; how many socialise with local whites/Hindus and other non-Muslims regularly; and ask why prominent regional Labour MPs and Councillors, like Jack Straw, are, and will forever be, perpetually striving to resolve the un-ending problem of non-integration.
Please reporter, earn your keep.!
Does anyone know whether Muslim Girls ever marry white non- mulim males and start integrating with a multi cultural mixed race society.If not why?
[quote][p][bold]BoltonLancs[/bold] wrote: Wow, what a surprise, no pics of the missile throwing Muslim and Ultra-fascist UAF side. Local rag reporter isn't a Leftie at all ZZZzzz... I reckon this reporter should one day do a piece on the situation other nearby northern towns like Bradford, Burnley, Oldham and Blackburn are in regarding Muslim communities mixing well into British life; how many speak English on a regular basis; how many socialise with local whites/Hindus and other non-Muslims regularly; and ask why prominent regional Labour MPs and Councillors, like Jack Straw, are, and will forever be, perpetually striving to resolve the un-ending problem of non-integration. Please reporter, earn your keep.![/p][/quote]Does anyone know whether Muslim Girls ever marry white non- mulim males and start integrating with a multi cultural mixed race society.If not why? albertmodley
  • Score: 15

9:16pm Sat 2 Aug 14

SupeRed09 says...

Beyond News Forum wrote:
Lynn57 wrote:
There was a march today in London which was not reported by the BBC or the newspapers but it is circulating on Facebook. Muslims have been going around London carrying placards with slogans as follows. "Prepare for a European 9 11" "non Islam people should be beheaded" and other slogans designed to incite racial hatred. The pictures show a policeman standing by doing precisely nothing. This is not our country anymore.
Link please...
www.google.com
[quote][p][bold]Beyond News Forum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lynn57[/bold] wrote: There was a march today in London which was not reported by the BBC or the newspapers but it is circulating on Facebook. Muslims have been going around London carrying placards with slogans as follows. "Prepare for a European 9 11" "non Islam people should be beheaded" and other slogans designed to incite racial hatred. The pictures show a policeman standing by doing precisely nothing. This is not our country anymore.[/p][/quote]Link please...[/p][/quote]www.google.com SupeRed09
  • Score: -5

9:21pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Beyond News Forum says...

May I run a scan on some of these comment accounts BN?

I could if I wanted to... (I don't do the hacking sites anymore) I suspect a few IP's being the same or via proxy which can be found using X- Forward For scripts.

Where are your techies BN?
May I run a scan on some of these comment accounts BN? I could if I wanted to... (I don't do the hacking sites anymore) I suspect a few IP's being the same or via proxy which can be found using X- Forward For scripts. Where are your techies BN? Beyond News Forum
  • Score: 5

9:29pm Sat 2 Aug 14

DAUBHILLISRUINED says...

albertmodley says...

Does anyone know whether Muslim Girls ever marry white non- mulim males and start integrating with a multi cultural mixed race society.If not why?


ANSWER-
No it's a very rare sight indeed.
because they never integrate and never will.
albertmodley says... Does anyone know whether Muslim Girls ever marry white non- mulim males and start integrating with a multi cultural mixed race society.If not why? ANSWER- No it's a very rare sight indeed. because they never integrate and never will. DAUBHILLISRUINED
  • Score: 23

9:33pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Beyond News Forum says...

Also... Ebola is rife in Africa... it could potentially come here. It is indiscriminate...

I guess we have other problems though lol
Also... Ebola is rife in Africa... it could potentially come here. It is indiscriminate... I guess we have other problems though lol Beyond News Forum
  • Score: 4

9:52pm Sat 2 Aug 14

alien13 says...

lets face it the worlds gone mad and every thing is corrupt and designed to disintegrate society, some of us no the bigger picture
lets face it the worlds gone mad and every thing is corrupt and designed to disintegrate society, some of us no the bigger picture alien13
  • Score: 19

9:59pm Sat 2 Aug 14

pradagucci says...

Mick England wrote:
Is islam a race?
Its a way of life. Read the Qur'an it was the biggest selling book after 9/11 on Amazon and converted thousands. Why is it the fastest growing religion on earth? Why has so many white British woman converted to Islam and still converting. Google " lady evelyn cobbold " she was a Scottish aristocrat who also converted to Islam and was the first British woman to go Mecca. Love to all ........
[quote][p][bold]Mick England[/bold] wrote: Is islam a race?[/p][/quote]Its a way of life. Read the Qur'an it was the biggest selling book after 9/11 on Amazon and converted thousands. Why is it the fastest growing religion on earth? Why has so many white British woman converted to Islam and still converting. Google " lady evelyn cobbold " she was a Scottish aristocrat who also converted to Islam and was the first British woman to go Mecca. Love to all ........ pradagucci
  • Score: -6

10:26pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Mr Happynotsad says...

I have no sympathy for the palastinans as if they had the technology to wipe out all of Israel or any non Islamic state they would use it without hesitation as they want world domination plain and simple.
I have no sympathy for the palastinans as if they had the technology to wipe out all of Israel or any non Islamic state they would use it without hesitation as they want world domination plain and simple. Mr Happynotsad
  • Score: -7

10:45pm Sat 2 Aug 14

BoltonLancs says...

pradagucci wrote:
Mick England wrote:
Is islam a race?
Its a way of life. Read the Qur'an it was the biggest selling book after 9/11 on Amazon and converted thousands. Why is it the fastest growing religion on earth? Why has so many white British woman converted to Islam and still converting. Google " lady evelyn cobbold " she was a Scottish aristocrat who also converted to Islam and was the first British woman to go Mecca. Love to all ........
My dad is bigger than your dad...main serious difference though is that my dad isn't wanting to believe for wanting's sake. I guarantee most White women have second thoughts about joining Islam when the buzz dies down.

I should know, I'm a proud apostate.
[quote][p][bold]pradagucci[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mick England[/bold] wrote: Is islam a race?[/p][/quote]Its a way of life. Read the Qur'an it was the biggest selling book after 9/11 on Amazon and converted thousands. Why is it the fastest growing religion on earth? Why has so many white British woman converted to Islam and still converting. Google " lady evelyn cobbold " she was a Scottish aristocrat who also converted to Islam and was the first British woman to go Mecca. Love to all ........[/p][/quote]My dad is bigger than your dad...main serious difference though is that my dad isn't wanting to believe for wanting's sake. I guarantee most White women have second thoughts about joining Islam when the buzz dies down. I should know, I'm a proud apostate. BoltonLancs
  • Score: 0

10:50pm Sat 2 Aug 14

tommytheinfadel says...

well i for one have lodged a complaint against julian thorpe for labelling people infadels and racial profiling, racism and hate crimes

this is illegal and is racist

i attended the rally, and i am a 40 year old solicitor from bolton, and appear in photos labelling me an infadel by julian thorpe, i have no connection with the group at all. your racial hatrad and illegal racial profiling is like labelling muslim protests as al queda ( just incase there was a al queda member there )............. you are a total disgrace and i am seriously offended by your article and will ensure you no longer work as a editor ever again, you are disgusting and racist !!!

i will be pursuing charges personally against him and have been in contact with newsquest today, sending them the photos where i am labelled a infadel

i will accept nothing more than his resignation or dismissal and will ensure this article is the last he rubber stamps in his life

see you soon julian

Timothy
well i for one have lodged a complaint against julian thorpe for labelling people infadels and racial profiling, racism and hate crimes this is illegal and is racist i attended the rally, and i am a 40 year old solicitor from bolton, and appear in photos labelling me an infadel by julian thorpe, i have no connection with the group at all. your racial hatrad and illegal racial profiling is like labelling muslim protests as al queda ( just incase there was a al queda member there )............. you are a total disgrace and i am seriously offended by your article and will ensure you no longer work as a editor ever again, you are disgusting and racist !!! i will be pursuing charges personally against him and have been in contact with newsquest today, sending them the photos where i am labelled a infadel i will accept nothing more than his resignation or dismissal and will ensure this article is the last he rubber stamps in his life see you soon julian Timothy tommytheinfadel
  • Score: 5

11:20pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Truered270 says...

The racists today were chanting Muslim pedos off our street lol. Name 1 muslim paedophile? I can name some non muslim ones without even thinking. Jimmy saville and Rolf Harris immediately come to mind and guess what they both aren't muslim so I suggest you keep your trap shut you uneducated racist people
The racists today were chanting Muslim pedos off our street lol. Name 1 muslim paedophile? I can name some non muslim ones without even thinking. Jimmy saville and Rolf Harris immediately come to mind and guess what they both aren't muslim so I suggest you keep your trap shut you uneducated racist people Truered270
  • Score: -7

11:23pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Tim Burr says...

tommytheinfadel wrote:
well i for one have lodged a complaint against julian thorpe for labelling people infadels and racial profiling, racism and hate crimes

this is illegal and is racist

i attended the rally, and i am a 40 year old solicitor from bolton, and appear in photos labelling me an infadel by julian thorpe, i have no connection with the group at all. your racial hatrad and illegal racial profiling is like labelling muslim protests as al queda ( just incase there was a al queda member there )............. you are a total disgrace and i am seriously offended by your article and will ensure you no longer work as a editor ever again, you are disgusting and racist !!!

i will be pursuing charges personally against him and have been in contact with newsquest today, sending them the photos where i am labelled a infadel

i will accept nothing more than his resignation or dismissal and will ensure this article is the last he rubber stamps in his life

see you soon julian

Timothy
Course you're a 40 year old infidel solicitor from Bolton Thomas or is it Timothy?

Don't forget to inform us of the court date - I'd love to be in the public gallery for the show trial. Bring Lyn with you too, she can be your star witness if you can keep 'her' sober long enough.
[quote][p][bold]tommytheinfadel[/bold] wrote: well i for one have lodged a complaint against julian thorpe for labelling people infadels and racial profiling, racism and hate crimes this is illegal and is racist i attended the rally, and i am a 40 year old solicitor from bolton, and appear in photos labelling me an infadel by julian thorpe, i have no connection with the group at all. your racial hatrad and illegal racial profiling is like labelling muslim protests as al queda ( just incase there was a al queda member there )............. you are a total disgrace and i am seriously offended by your article and will ensure you no longer work as a editor ever again, you are disgusting and racist !!! i will be pursuing charges personally against him and have been in contact with newsquest today, sending them the photos where i am labelled a infadel i will accept nothing more than his resignation or dismissal and will ensure this article is the last he rubber stamps in his life see you soon julian Timothy[/p][/quote]Course you're a 40 year old infidel solicitor from Bolton Thomas or is it Timothy? Don't forget to inform us of the court date - I'd love to be in the public gallery for the show trial. Bring Lyn with you too, she can be your star witness if you can keep 'her' sober long enough. Tim Burr
  • Score: 10

11:27pm Sat 2 Aug 14

bolton12 says...

This was posted on facebook earlier with a lovely photo - why hasn't Bolton News put photo's and reports like this on:

My 79yr old mum today at the Super Mosque protest in Bolton today
My sister was also there, this is what she has to say about today's events ~{Sara}
I am a Boltonian, I'm 60yrs old and my mum's 79yrs old and we were there as well as many ... See More
Photo: My 79yr old mum today at the Super Mosque protest in Bolton today :)
My sister was also there, this is what she has to say about today's events ~{Sara}
I am a Boltonian, I'm 60yrs old and my mum's 79yrs old and we were there as well as many other elderly women and men. We are just ordinary Bolton people who joined this protest to demonstrate our opinions, which are; there are already far too many mosques in Bolton and a Super Mosque is most definitely not needed, especially on Blackburn Road.
On the coach on the way to the protest Muslim women were stood in their doorways giving us the fingers and when we got there, there were no Muslim women to be seen at all, only Muslim men. There was also some white hippy looking type people with the Muslim counter protesters who were giving us the fingers, especially the women!
I am absolutely disgusted by the biased and down right incorrect reporting of the Bolton News about today's events. There were more protesters than counter protesters, we out numbered them by far. The only fireworks that were set off was by the Muslims and were thrown into our section of the protesters. They were abusive, violent, and taunting us all. The Muslim counter protesters also burned an English flag. Although some protesters rose to the taunting, the majority of Boltonians that were there; men, women, old and young alike were peaceful.
As we sat on the coach waiting to go, one side of the coach was facing the Muslim counter protesters and they became very abusive and lewd, they started sticking their tongues out at us and licking their lips, playing with their nipples and rubbing their crotch's and one man actually exposed himself to us.
This is the truth and what really happened. Please share this so people know what is being written in the Bolton News is wrong!
Thank-You.
This was posted on facebook earlier with a lovely photo - why hasn't Bolton News put photo's and reports like this on: My 79yr old mum today at the Super Mosque protest in Bolton today My sister was also there, this is what she has to say about today's events ~{Sara} I am a Boltonian, I'm 60yrs old and my mum's 79yrs old and we were there as well as many ... See More Photo: My 79yr old mum today at the Super Mosque protest in Bolton today :) My sister was also there, this is what she has to say about today's events ~{Sara} I am a Boltonian, I'm 60yrs old and my mum's 79yrs old and we were there as well as many other elderly women and men. We are just ordinary Bolton people who joined this protest to demonstrate our opinions, which are; there are already far too many mosques in Bolton and a Super Mosque is most definitely not needed, especially on Blackburn Road. On the coach on the way to the protest Muslim women were stood in their doorways giving us the fingers and when we got there, there were no Muslim women to be seen at all, only Muslim men. There was also some white hippy looking type people with the Muslim counter protesters who were giving us the fingers, especially the women! I am absolutely disgusted by the biased and down right incorrect reporting of the Bolton News about today's events. There were more protesters than counter protesters, we out numbered them by far. The only fireworks that were set off was by the Muslims and were thrown into our section of the protesters. They were abusive, violent, and taunting us all. The Muslim counter protesters also burned an English flag. Although some protesters rose to the taunting, the majority of Boltonians that were there; men, women, old and young alike were peaceful. As we sat on the coach waiting to go, one side of the coach was facing the Muslim counter protesters and they became very abusive and lewd, they started sticking their tongues out at us and licking their lips, playing with their nipples and rubbing their crotch's and one man actually exposed himself to us. This is the truth and what really happened. Please share this so people know what is being written in the Bolton News is wrong! Thank-You. bolton12
  • Score: 11

11:31pm Sat 2 Aug 14

rdbjds says...

People are so dumb. Stuff that circulates on Facebook is mostly always false or scewed so dumb people will believe it and start panicking.

http://www.hoax-slay
er.com/muslim-protes
t-london.shtml

The protest WAS real, but it was in 2006 during the time when a comic came out. I am not saying they should be allowed to protest in this way but this was in 2006 and it was all over the news.

You people need to research before spreading lies to justify your idiotic views.
People are so dumb. Stuff that circulates on Facebook is mostly always false or scewed so dumb people will believe it and start panicking. http://www.hoax-slay er.com/muslim-protes t-london.shtml The protest WAS real, but it was in 2006 during the time when a comic came out. I am not saying they should be allowed to protest in this way but this was in 2006 and it was all over the news. You people need to research before spreading lies to justify your idiotic views. rdbjds
  • Score: 4

11:32pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Tim Burr says...

Posted by another crackpot group British Patriots Society II, bolton12
Posted by another crackpot group British Patriots Society II, bolton12 Tim Burr
  • Score: -5

11:38pm Sat 2 Aug 14

jenny50 says...

renovatedhouserunner wrote:
Bolton against racism? I bet this guy doesn't live in the area.
Why can't they make these mosques look like a building which looks like they fit in? Because they want to takeover the area? Push white working class out? Or perhaps just same reason Muslims have decided they now want to wear a burka, never saw one before 2001, they divide opinion and why do women who wear them still buy make-up and jewellery? It's all about taking control this mosque. That ain't racist, it's the truth.
I live in the area the truth is churches are closing because no one goes so why should we condem people for there belief in there faith?
[quote][p][bold]renovatedhouserunner[/bold] wrote: Bolton against racism? I bet this guy doesn't live in the area. Why can't they make these mosques look like a building which looks like they fit in? Because they want to takeover the area? Push white working class out? Or perhaps just same reason Muslims have decided they now want to wear a burka, never saw one before 2001, they divide opinion and why do women who wear them still buy make-up and jewellery? It's all about taking control this mosque. That ain't racist, it's the truth.[/p][/quote]I live in the area the truth is churches are closing because no one goes so why should we condem people for there belief in there faith? jenny50
  • Score: 10

11:43pm Sat 2 Aug 14

pradagucci says...

tommytheinfadel wrote:
well i for one have lodged a complaint against julian thorpe for labelling people infadels and racial profiling, racism and hate crimes

this is illegal and is racist

i attended the rally, and i am a 40 year old solicitor from bolton, and appear in photos labelling me an infadel by julian thorpe, i have no connection with the group at all. your racial hatrad and illegal racial profiling is like labelling muslim protests as al queda ( just incase there was a al queda member there )............. you are a total disgrace and i am seriously offended by your article and will ensure you no longer work as a editor ever again, you are disgusting and racist !!!

i will be pursuing charges personally against him and have been in contact with newsquest today, sending them the photos where i am labelled a infadel

i will accept nothing more than his resignation or dismissal and will ensure this article is the last he rubber stamps in his life

see you soon julian

Timothy
Labelling people infidels? I thought that's the name of the group? NWI was printed on the union Jack flag? Also the poster designed to organise this protest was by NWI so I'm not sure why you feel labelled?
[quote][p][bold]tommytheinfadel[/bold] wrote: well i for one have lodged a complaint against julian thorpe for labelling people infadels and racial profiling, racism and hate crimes this is illegal and is racist i attended the rally, and i am a 40 year old solicitor from bolton, and appear in photos labelling me an infadel by julian thorpe, i have no connection with the group at all. your racial hatrad and illegal racial profiling is like labelling muslim protests as al queda ( just incase there was a al queda member there )............. you are a total disgrace and i am seriously offended by your article and will ensure you no longer work as a editor ever again, you are disgusting and racist !!! i will be pursuing charges personally against him and have been in contact with newsquest today, sending them the photos where i am labelled a infadel i will accept nothing more than his resignation or dismissal and will ensure this article is the last he rubber stamps in his life see you soon julian Timothy[/p][/quote]Labelling people infidels? I thought that's the name of the group? NWI was printed on the union Jack flag? Also the poster designed to organise this protest was by NWI so I'm not sure why you feel labelled? pradagucci
  • Score: 12

11:48pm Sat 2 Aug 14

pradagucci says...

Truered270 wrote:
The racists today were chanting Muslim pedos off our street lol. Name 1 muslim paedophile? I can name some non muslim ones without even thinking. Jimmy saville and Rolf Harris immediately come to mind and guess what they both aren't muslim so I suggest you keep your trap shut you uneducated racist people
All that goes undetected. Don't forget the priests who obused all those kids for years end. They won't mention any of this........Jimmy saville was the biggest pedo this world has seen, imagine he was a Muslim OMG we will never hear the end of it! Proper double standards. No point wasting time on here it's a joke........over and out!
[quote][p][bold]Truered270[/bold] wrote: The racists today were chanting Muslim pedos off our street lol. Name 1 muslim paedophile? I can name some non muslim ones without even thinking. Jimmy saville and Rolf Harris immediately come to mind and guess what they both aren't muslim so I suggest you keep your trap shut you uneducated racist people[/p][/quote]All that goes undetected. Don't forget the priests who obused all those kids for years end. They won't mention any of this........Jimmy saville was the biggest pedo this world has seen, imagine he was a Muslim OMG we will never hear the end of it! Proper double standards. No point wasting time on here it's a joke........over and out! pradagucci
  • Score: 11

11:48pm Sat 2 Aug 14

bolton12 says...

Tim Burr wrote:
Posted by another crackpot group British Patriots Society II, bolton12
No Tim Burr, posted by a concerned resident from Astley Bridge with a photo of the lady at the protest.
[quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: Posted by another crackpot group British Patriots Society II, bolton12[/p][/quote]No Tim Burr, posted by a concerned resident from Astley Bridge with a photo of the lady at the protest. bolton12
  • Score: 3

11:57pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Tim Burr says...

bolton12 wrote:
Tim Burr wrote:
Posted by another crackpot group British Patriots Society II, bolton12
No Tim Burr, posted by a concerned resident from Astley Bridge with a photo of the lady at the protest.
Posted by British Patriots Society II - who are ex UKIP booted for racism and EDL affiliations.

Hmm, the next question is, why on earth would you take granny along to a demo attended by foul mouthed morons.
[quote][p][bold]bolton12[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: Posted by another crackpot group British Patriots Society II, bolton12[/p][/quote]No Tim Burr, posted by a concerned resident from Astley Bridge with a photo of the lady at the protest.[/p][/quote]Posted by British Patriots Society II - who are ex UKIP booted for racism and EDL affiliations. Hmm, the next question is, why on earth would you take granny along to a demo attended by foul mouthed morons. Tim Burr
  • Score: -3

12:21am Sun 3 Aug 14

Beyond News Forum says...

Tim Burr wrote:
bolton12 wrote:
Tim Burr wrote:
Posted by another crackpot group British Patriots Society II, bolton12
No Tim Burr, posted by a concerned resident from Astley Bridge with a photo of the lady at the protest.
Posted by British Patriots Society II - who are ex UKIP booted for racism and EDL affiliations.

Hmm, the next question is, why on earth would you take granny along to a demo attended by foul mouthed morons.
From the videos I have seen, the foul mouthed morons as you call them were situated on both sides of the police cordon.

The videos will soon be up if not already... so the BN will be shown the reality of what happened today without any biased reporting.

I'm not affiliated Tim but I know a con when I see or read one.
[quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bolton12[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: Posted by another crackpot group British Patriots Society II, bolton12[/p][/quote]No Tim Burr, posted by a concerned resident from Astley Bridge with a photo of the lady at the protest.[/p][/quote]Posted by British Patriots Society II - who are ex UKIP booted for racism and EDL affiliations. Hmm, the next question is, why on earth would you take granny along to a demo attended by foul mouthed morons.[/p][/quote]From the videos I have seen, the foul mouthed morons as you call them were situated on both sides of the police cordon. The videos will soon be up if not already... so the BN will be shown the reality of what happened today without any biased reporting. I'm not affiliated Tim but I know a con when I see or read one. Beyond News Forum
  • Score: 2

12:28am Sun 3 Aug 14

Tim Burr says...

Course you're not affiliated but yet you've seen videos and claim they'll be up soon. We have a lot of technology in this office but we haven't worked out how to read minds yet - so where are these videos going 'up'?
Course you're not affiliated but yet you've seen videos and claim they'll be up soon. We have a lot of technology in this office but we haven't worked out how to read minds yet - so where are these videos going 'up'? Tim Burr
  • Score: 0

12:48am Sun 3 Aug 14

Beyond News Forum says...

Tim Burr wrote:
Course you're not affiliated but yet you've seen videos and claim they'll be up soon. We have a lot of technology in this office but we haven't worked out how to read minds yet - so where are these videos going 'up'?
You will find out soon enough.

I am not affiliated at all... but I have friends who are.

I have friends on both sides of the fence - I will look at this impartially and not with biased opinion or inane name calling of certain individuals because they may 'look' like thugs or 'look' like they have no job... when I know for CERTAIN that many of those who DID attend todays protest, and other protests have very good JOBS and pay BRITISH/ENGLISH TAXES - again on both sides.

To call them morons is tad amount to the creative wording you squander on trying to be intelligent - very flippant.

And your technology is shyte BTW.
[quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: Course you're not affiliated but yet you've seen videos and claim they'll be up soon. We have a lot of technology in this office but we haven't worked out how to read minds yet - so where are these videos going 'up'?[/p][/quote]You will find out soon enough. I am not affiliated at all... but I have friends who are. I have friends on both sides of the fence - I will look at this impartially and not with biased opinion or inane name calling of certain individuals because they may 'look' like thugs or 'look' like they have no job... when I know for CERTAIN that many of those who DID attend todays protest, and other protests have very good JOBS and pay BRITISH/ENGLISH TAXES - again on both sides. To call them morons is tad amount to the creative wording you squander on trying to be intelligent - very flippant. And your technology is shyte BTW. Beyond News Forum
  • Score: 1

12:55am Sun 3 Aug 14

Beyond News Forum says...

m6.lb.newsquest.co.u
k

Is showing its true colours... how its staff behaves and what it thinks of citizens of this town.

If indeed Tim you are the real deal.
m6.lb.newsquest.co.u k Is showing its true colours... how its staff behaves and what it thinks of citizens of this town. If indeed Tim you are the real deal. Beyond News Forum
  • Score: 3

12:59am Sun 3 Aug 14

Tim Burr says...

Beyond News Forum wrote:
Tim Burr wrote:
Course you're not affiliated but yet you've seen videos and claim they'll be up soon. We have a lot of technology in this office but we haven't worked out how to read minds yet - so where are these videos going 'up'?
You will find out soon enough.

I am not affiliated at all... but I have friends who are.

I have friends on both sides of the fence - I will look at this impartially and not with biased opinion or inane name calling of certain individuals because they may 'look' like thugs or 'look' like they have no job... when I know for CERTAIN that many of those who DID attend todays protest, and other protests have very good JOBS and pay BRITISH/ENGLISH TAXES - again on both sides.

To call them morons is tad amount to the creative wording you squander on trying to be intelligent - very flippant.

And your technology is shyte BTW.
We've just been through a few of your accounts, interesting - that's how crap it is XXX.
[quote][p][bold]Beyond News Forum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: Course you're not affiliated but yet you've seen videos and claim they'll be up soon. We have a lot of technology in this office but we haven't worked out how to read minds yet - so where are these videos going 'up'?[/p][/quote]You will find out soon enough. I am not affiliated at all... but I have friends who are. I have friends on both sides of the fence - I will look at this impartially and not with biased opinion or inane name calling of certain individuals because they may 'look' like thugs or 'look' like they have no job... when I know for CERTAIN that many of those who DID attend todays protest, and other protests have very good JOBS and pay BRITISH/ENGLISH TAXES - again on both sides. To call them morons is tad amount to the creative wording you squander on trying to be intelligent - very flippant. And your technology is shyte BTW.[/p][/quote]We've just been through a few of your accounts, interesting - that's how crap it is XXX. Tim Burr
  • Score: -4

1:04am Sun 3 Aug 14

Beyond News Forum says...

Tim Burr wrote:
Beyond News Forum wrote:
Tim Burr wrote:
Course you're not affiliated but yet you've seen videos and claim they'll be up soon. We have a lot of technology in this office but we haven't worked out how to read minds yet - so where are these videos going 'up'?
You will find out soon enough.

I am not affiliated at all... but I have friends who are.

I have friends on both sides of the fence - I will look at this impartially and not with biased opinion or inane name calling of certain individuals because they may 'look' like thugs or 'look' like they have no job... when I know for CERTAIN that many of those who DID attend todays protest, and other protests have very good JOBS and pay BRITISH/ENGLISH TAXES - again on both sides.

To call them morons is tad amount to the creative wording you squander on trying to be intelligent - very flippant.

And your technology is shyte BTW.
We've just been through a few of your accounts, interesting - that's how crap it is XXX.
Then that is where I know you are liar and a con, as I have no more accounts than this one personally.
[quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Beyond News Forum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: Course you're not affiliated but yet you've seen videos and claim they'll be up soon. We have a lot of technology in this office but we haven't worked out how to read minds yet - so where are these videos going 'up'?[/p][/quote]You will find out soon enough. I am not affiliated at all... but I have friends who are. I have friends on both sides of the fence - I will look at this impartially and not with biased opinion or inane name calling of certain individuals because they may 'look' like thugs or 'look' like they have no job... when I know for CERTAIN that many of those who DID attend todays protest, and other protests have very good JOBS and pay BRITISH/ENGLISH TAXES - again on both sides. To call them morons is tad amount to the creative wording you squander on trying to be intelligent - very flippant. And your technology is shyte BTW.[/p][/quote]We've just been through a few of your accounts, interesting - that's how crap it is XXX.[/p][/quote]Then that is where I know you are liar and a con, as I have no more accounts than this one personally. Beyond News Forum
  • Score: -1

1:06am Sun 3 Aug 14

Tim Burr says...

Who mentioned here?
Who mentioned here? Tim Burr
  • Score: -3

1:12am Sun 3 Aug 14

Beyond News Forum says...

LOL

I don't do social networks...

I am affiliated to a forum that I freely advertize...

Now you are making yourself look stupid.
LOL I don't do social networks... I am affiliated to a forum that I freely advertize... Now you are making yourself look stupid. Beyond News Forum
  • Score: 0

1:14am Sun 3 Aug 14

Beyond News Forum says...

First two of my IP... I will share your first two lol
First two of my IP... I will share your first two lol Beyond News Forum
  • Score: -3

1:22am Sun 3 Aug 14

StopwiththeBS says...

tommytheinfadel wrote:
well i for one have lodged a complaint against julian thorpe for labelling people infadels and racial profiling, racism and hate crimes

this is illegal and is racist

i attended the rally, and i am a 40 year old solicitor from bolton, and appear in photos labelling me an infadel by julian thorpe, i have no connection with the group at all. your racial hatrad and illegal racial profiling is like labelling muslim protests as al queda ( just incase there was a al queda member there )............. you are a total disgrace and i am seriously offended by your article and will ensure you no longer work as a editor ever again, you are disgusting and racist !!!

i will be pursuing charges personally against him and have been in contact with newsquest today, sending them the photos where i am labelled a infadel

i will accept nothing more than his resignation or dismissal and will ensure this article is the last he rubber stamps in his life

see you soon julian

Timothy
Why the **** did you goto a North West Infidels demo then your twit?
[quote][p][bold]tommytheinfadel[/bold] wrote: well i for one have lodged a complaint against julian thorpe for labelling people infadels and racial profiling, racism and hate crimes this is illegal and is racist i attended the rally, and i am a 40 year old solicitor from bolton, and appear in photos labelling me an infadel by julian thorpe, i have no connection with the group at all. your racial hatrad and illegal racial profiling is like labelling muslim protests as al queda ( just incase there was a al queda member there )............. you are a total disgrace and i am seriously offended by your article and will ensure you no longer work as a editor ever again, you are disgusting and racist !!! i will be pursuing charges personally against him and have been in contact with newsquest today, sending them the photos where i am labelled a infadel i will accept nothing more than his resignation or dismissal and will ensure this article is the last he rubber stamps in his life see you soon julian Timothy[/p][/quote]Why the **** did you goto a North West Infidels demo then your twit? StopwiththeBS
  • Score: 3

1:26am Sun 3 Aug 14

StopwiththeBS says...

bolton12 wrote:
This was posted on facebook earlier with a lovely photo - why hasn't Bolton News put photo's and reports like this on:

My 79yr old mum today at the Super Mosque protest in Bolton today
My sister was also there, this is what she has to say about today's events ~{Sara}
I am a Boltonian, I'm 60yrs old and my mum's 79yrs old and we were there as well as many ... See More
Photo: My 79yr old mum today at the Super Mosque protest in Bolton today :)
My sister was also there, this is what she has to say about today's events ~{Sara}
I am a Boltonian, I'm 60yrs old and my mum's 79yrs old and we were there as well as many other elderly women and men. We are just ordinary Bolton people who joined this protest to demonstrate our opinions, which are; there are already far too many mosques in Bolton and a Super Mosque is most definitely not needed, especially on Blackburn Road.
On the coach on the way to the protest Muslim women were stood in their doorways giving us the fingers and when we got there, there were no Muslim women to be seen at all, only Muslim men. There was also some white hippy looking type people with the Muslim counter protesters who were giving us the fingers, especially the women!
I am absolutely disgusted by the biased and down right incorrect reporting of the Bolton News about today's events. There were more protesters than counter protesters, we out numbered them by far. The only fireworks that were set off was by the Muslims and were thrown into our section of the protesters. They were abusive, violent, and taunting us all. The Muslim counter protesters also burned an English flag. Although some protesters rose to the taunting, the majority of Boltonians that were there; men, women, old and young alike were peaceful.
As we sat on the coach waiting to go, one side of the coach was facing the Muslim counter protesters and they became very abusive and lewd, they started sticking their tongues out at us and licking their lips, playing with their nipples and rubbing their crotch's and one man actually exposed himself to us.
This is the truth and what really happened. Please share this so people know what is being written in the Bolton News is wrong!
Thank-You.
Because It comes from a known liar, Sara Roocroft, who is renowned for making things up and is leader of the British Patriots Society. If you visit the facebook page you can see the several edits it went through before getting in the state it is in in the above quote. This includes adding an extra 73 words over the course of a few hours and changing a number of the 'facts'.

Basically. They don;t print ****.

Which is sort of why you lot are so upset.
[quote][p][bold]bolton12[/bold] wrote: This was posted on facebook earlier with a lovely photo - why hasn't Bolton News put photo's and reports like this on: My 79yr old mum today at the Super Mosque protest in Bolton today My sister was also there, this is what she has to say about today's events ~{Sara} I am a Boltonian, I'm 60yrs old and my mum's 79yrs old and we were there as well as many ... See More Photo: My 79yr old mum today at the Super Mosque protest in Bolton today :) My sister was also there, this is what she has to say about today's events ~{Sara} I am a Boltonian, I'm 60yrs old and my mum's 79yrs old and we were there as well as many other elderly women and men. We are just ordinary Bolton people who joined this protest to demonstrate our opinions, which are; there are already far too many mosques in Bolton and a Super Mosque is most definitely not needed, especially on Blackburn Road. On the coach on the way to the protest Muslim women were stood in their doorways giving us the fingers and when we got there, there were no Muslim women to be seen at all, only Muslim men. There was also some white hippy looking type people with the Muslim counter protesters who were giving us the fingers, especially the women! I am absolutely disgusted by the biased and down right incorrect reporting of the Bolton News about today's events. There were more protesters than counter protesters, we out numbered them by far. The only fireworks that were set off was by the Muslims and were thrown into our section of the protesters. They were abusive, violent, and taunting us all. The Muslim counter protesters also burned an English flag. Although some protesters rose to the taunting, the majority of Boltonians that were there; men, women, old and young alike were peaceful. As we sat on the coach waiting to go, one side of the coach was facing the Muslim counter protesters and they became very abusive and lewd, they started sticking their tongues out at us and licking their lips, playing with their nipples and rubbing their crotch's and one man actually exposed himself to us. This is the truth and what really happened. Please share this so people know what is being written in the Bolton News is wrong! Thank-You.[/p][/quote]Because It comes from a known liar, Sara Roocroft, who is renowned for making things up and is leader of the British Patriots Society. If you visit the facebook page you can see the several edits it went through before getting in the state it is in in the above quote. This includes adding an extra 73 words over the course of a few hours and changing a number of the 'facts'. Basically. They don;t print ****. Which is sort of why you lot are so upset. StopwiththeBS
  • Score: 0

1:33am Sun 3 Aug 14

Tim Burr says...

Beyond News Forum wrote:
First two of my IP... I will share your first two lol
You're now using a proxy server.

Our current IP begins with 91 Host IP 35 Coordinates 48
[quote][p][bold]Beyond News Forum[/bold] wrote: First two of my IP... I will share your first two lol[/p][/quote]You're now using a proxy server. Our current IP begins with 91 Host IP 35 Coordinates 48 Tim Burr
  • Score: -2

1:38am Sun 3 Aug 14

Beyond News Forum says...

Tim Burr wrote:
Beyond News Forum wrote:
First two of my IP... I will share your first two lol
You're now using a proxy server.

Our current IP begins with 91 Host IP 35 Coordinates 48
Garbage... I am on a static 82...

Your IP should be a naked... with a server route beginning with 62 with Co-s of 51
[quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Beyond News Forum[/bold] wrote: First two of my IP... I will share your first two lol[/p][/quote]You're now using a proxy server. Our current IP begins with 91 Host IP 35 Coordinates 48[/p][/quote]Garbage... I am on a static 82... Your IP should be a naked... with a server route beginning with 62 with Co-s of 51 Beyond News Forum
  • Score: 0

1:41am Sun 3 Aug 14

Beyond News Forum says...

But it isn't...
But it isn't... Beyond News Forum
  • Score: -2

1:47am Sun 3 Aug 14

Tim Burr says...

Beyond News Forum wrote:
Tim Burr wrote:
Beyond News Forum wrote:
First two of my IP... I will share your first two lol
You're now using a proxy server.

Our current IP begins with 91 Host IP 35 Coordinates 48
Garbage... I am on a static 82...

Your IP should be a naked... with a server route beginning with 62 with Co-s of 51
Hmm, naked IP's. Sounds like you need to learn how certain networks run. I doubt if you know what a naked IP is or why it would be used but that's another story for you to Google.
[quote][p][bold]Beyond News Forum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Beyond News Forum[/bold] wrote: First two of my IP... I will share your first two lol[/p][/quote]You're now using a proxy server. Our current IP begins with 91 Host IP 35 Coordinates 48[/p][/quote]Garbage... I am on a static 82... Your IP should be a naked... with a server route beginning with 62 with Co-s of 51[/p][/quote]Hmm, naked IP's. Sounds like you need to learn how certain networks run. I doubt if you know what a naked IP is or why it would be used but that's another story for you to Google. Tim Burr
  • Score: -3

1:51am Sun 3 Aug 14

Tim Burr says...

Sara Roocroft? Didn't the Daily Bale via the guy in Bolton who was involved- try to do a 'number' on her worthy of the Israeli occupation force (childrens department) propaganda machine?
Sara Roocroft? Didn't the Daily Bale via the guy in Bolton who was involved- try to do a 'number' on her worthy of the Israeli occupation force (childrens department) propaganda machine? Tim Burr
  • Score: 1

1:53am Sun 3 Aug 14

Beyond News Forum says...

Tim Burr wrote:
Beyond News Forum wrote:
Tim Burr wrote:
Beyond News Forum wrote:
First two of my IP... I will share your first two lol
You're now using a proxy server.

Our current IP begins with 91 Host IP 35 Coordinates 48
Garbage... I am on a static 82...

Your IP should be a naked... with a server route beginning with 62 with Co-s of 51
Hmm, naked IP's. Sounds like you need to learn how certain networks run. I doubt if you know what a naked IP is or why it would be used but that's another story for you to Google.
I'm bored of you now and so are my machines.
[quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Beyond News Forum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Beyond News Forum[/bold] wrote: First two of my IP... I will share your first two lol[/p][/quote]You're now using a proxy server. Our current IP begins with 91 Host IP 35 Coordinates 48[/p][/quote]Garbage... I am on a static 82... Your IP should be a naked... with a server route beginning with 62 with Co-s of 51[/p][/quote]Hmm, naked IP's. Sounds like you need to learn how certain networks run. I doubt if you know what a naked IP is or why it would be used but that's another story for you to Google.[/p][/quote]I'm bored of you now and so are my machines. Beyond News Forum
  • Score: -3

2:02am Sun 3 Aug 14

Tim Burr says...

Sure you're bored - that's the expected lame excuse - I would have had a degree of respect had you been able to reply (in your own words) displaying a tiny fraction of knowledge, but theres always next time I suppose.

Don't forget to kiss your plug before retiring - preferably the brown wire.
Sure you're bored - that's the expected lame excuse - I would have had a degree of respect had you been able to reply (in your own words) displaying a tiny fraction of knowledge, but theres always next time I suppose. Don't forget to kiss your plug before retiring - preferably the brown wire. Tim Burr
  • Score: -2

2:32am Sun 3 Aug 14

dameous says...

RE Tim Burr

Are you affiliated with the Bolton News? I only ask as I am curious as to why the BN does not approach these events with any degree of impartiality? Before I continue I wish to state that I don't have anything against the mosque being built, although I am an atheist and do have a problem with organised religion in general, as it promotes belief without question, and anything that instructs people not to think and to pass over all control doesn't sit well with me at all. From what I saw today, there were two sides spewing hatred at each other, and both were guilty of overstepping the mark of common decency on occasion, but for some reason the article is biased against only one of the protagonists. While the BN might find the political views of one side unsavoury, surely a fair and even handed account of what happened is more in keeping with the traditions of a local, non politically motivated newspaper, unless of course that isn't the case at all, and the BN has a biased agenda? I would certainly like to believe that isn't the case, but the current state of the UK media doesn't fill me with confidence, as it seems its just a propaganda machine for whatever affiliated party/organisation is paying its wages.

Surely, in this age, we should be breaking away from the shackles of religious ideology and not promoting belief systems that reduce women to second class citizens that are mere property, values that reduce non believers to being unclean or beneath those that believe in a particular faith, and persecute people on their sexual orientation. This goes for all belief systems, not just Islam. We should be building centres that promote true community and understanding, between all people, breaking away from the barriers that divide us, rather than encouraging the means to separate us. We are all human, we all come into this life the same way and we all exit it in the same manner. Instead it seems the political parties of this country are more obsessed with votes, and will pander to any organization that will guarantee these, rather than actually try to sort out the problems of division in our communities. Its just a shame we don't seem to have an unbiased, non-union lead/party affiliated press to actually discuss this, rather than revert to the classic "There is no problem, its just some racists" line that the BN seems to think will solve everything. There should be no political agenda here, there should be no religious agenda, it should be for the good of Bolton as a whole. Sadly, It doesn't seem like that's the case.
RE Tim Burr Are you affiliated with the Bolton News? I only ask as I am curious as to why the BN does not approach these events with any degree of impartiality? Before I continue I wish to state that I don't have anything against the mosque being built, although I am an atheist and do have a problem with organised religion in general, as it promotes belief without question, and anything that instructs people not to think and to pass over all control doesn't sit well with me at all. From what I saw today, there were two sides spewing hatred at each other, and both were guilty of overstepping the mark of common decency on occasion, but for some reason the article is biased against only one of the protagonists. While the BN might find the political views of one side unsavoury, surely a fair and even handed account of what happened is more in keeping with the traditions of a local, non politically motivated newspaper, unless of course that isn't the case at all, and the BN has a biased agenda? I would certainly like to believe that isn't the case, but the current state of the UK media doesn't fill me with confidence, as it seems its just a propaganda machine for whatever affiliated party/organisation is paying its wages. Surely, in this age, we should be breaking away from the shackles of religious ideology and not promoting belief systems that reduce women to second class citizens that are mere property, values that reduce non believers to being unclean or beneath those that believe in a particular faith, and persecute people on their sexual orientation. This goes for all belief systems, not just Islam. We should be building centres that promote true community and understanding, between all people, breaking away from the barriers that divide us, rather than encouraging the means to separate us. We are all human, we all come into this life the same way and we all exit it in the same manner. Instead it seems the political parties of this country are more obsessed with votes, and will pander to any organization that will guarantee these, rather than actually try to sort out the problems of division in our communities. Its just a shame we don't seem to have an unbiased, non-union lead/party affiliated press to actually discuss this, rather than revert to the classic "There is no problem, its just some racists" line that the BN seems to think will solve everything. There should be no political agenda here, there should be no religious agenda, it should be for the good of Bolton as a whole. Sadly, It doesn't seem like that's the case. dameous
  • Score: 21

3:08am Sun 3 Aug 14

Britchick2014 says...

Tim Burr wrote:
Posted by another crackpot group British Patriots Society II, bolton12
It may have been posted by BPSII but I was the one who wrote it, just like I did originally as a BN comment! Now who's the crackpot Tim Burr!
[quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: Posted by another crackpot group British Patriots Society II, bolton12[/p][/quote]It may have been posted by BPSII but I was the one who wrote it, just like I did originally as a BN comment! Now who's the crackpot Tim Burr! Britchick2014
  • Score: 1

3:12am Sun 3 Aug 14

Tim Burr says...

How is the reporting biased? It wasn't about politics and the reporting doesn't even touch politics, it was a demonstration (It was wasn't it?) against a replacement Mosque which whether you or anybody else disagree, it is going to be built - note replacement.

If anything Elaine should have asked the demonstrators - how is this affecting them personally though I doubt she would have received a coherent reply. She attempted to speak with the organiser - but he fell silent.

By their own admission the NWI and affiliates 'shipped' demonstrators in from out of town for what reason - the appearance of having support? That's only kidding themselves.

Here's one for you. You ever considered that the ones behind the current 'anti-muslim' are the same currently slaughtering thousands in Palestine? They can't make money out of Islam, check out the Islamic stance on banking which doesn't rely on creating debt and misery.

I've seen too many falsehoods which gullible people have believed without checking their facts first and much more but you'll have to wait for my next blockbuster book to read more.
How is the reporting biased? It wasn't about politics and the reporting doesn't even touch politics, it was a demonstration (It was wasn't it?) against a replacement Mosque which whether you or anybody else disagree, it is going to be built - note replacement. If anything Elaine should have asked the demonstrators - how is this affecting them personally though I doubt she would have received a coherent reply. She attempted to speak with the organiser - but he fell silent. By their own admission the NWI and affiliates 'shipped' demonstrators in from out of town for what reason - the appearance of having support? That's only kidding themselves. Here's one for you. You ever considered that the ones behind the current 'anti-muslim' are the same currently slaughtering thousands in Palestine? They can't make money out of Islam, check out the Islamic stance on banking which doesn't rely on creating debt and misery. I've seen too many falsehoods which gullible people have believed without checking their facts first and much more but you'll have to wait for my next blockbuster book to read more. Tim Burr
  • Score: 4

3:16am Sun 3 Aug 14

Tim Burr says...

Britchick2014 wrote:
Tim Burr wrote:
Posted by another crackpot group British Patriots Society II, bolton12
It may have been posted by BPSII but I was the one who wrote it, just like I did originally as a BN comment! Now who's the crackpot Tim Burr!
Britchick2014 - a 60 year old who takes granny to demos - classy. Are you the one booted from UKIP?
[quote][p][bold]Britchick2014[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: Posted by another crackpot group British Patriots Society II, bolton12[/p][/quote]It may have been posted by BPSII but I was the one who wrote it, just like I did originally as a BN comment! Now who's the crackpot Tim Burr![/p][/quote]Britchick2014 - a 60 year old who takes granny to demos - classy. Are you the one booted from UKIP? Tim Burr
  • Score: 0

3:20am Sun 3 Aug 14

Britchick2014 says...

Tim Burr wrote:
bolton12 wrote:
Tim Burr wrote:
Posted by another crackpot group British Patriots Society II, bolton12
No Tim Burr, posted by a concerned resident from Astley Bridge with a photo of the lady at the protest.
Posted by British Patriots Society II - who are ex UKIP booted for racism and EDL affiliations.

Hmm, the next question is, why on earth would you take granny along to a demo attended by foul mouthed morons.
Totally untrue and nobody took my mother along she was adamant she was going. Actually she dragged me along as I was worried about violence from the counter protesters side. There were other elderly people there, and next time there will be even more. The tide is turning and we are no longer afraid to voice our opinions.
BPS II is no crackpot group either, no-one was kicked out of UKIP, stop with the lies as it makes you look desperate.
[quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bolton12[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: Posted by another crackpot group British Patriots Society II, bolton12[/p][/quote]No Tim Burr, posted by a concerned resident from Astley Bridge with a photo of the lady at the protest.[/p][/quote]Posted by British Patriots Society II - who are ex UKIP booted for racism and EDL affiliations. Hmm, the next question is, why on earth would you take granny along to a demo attended by foul mouthed morons.[/p][/quote]Totally untrue and nobody took my mother along she was adamant she was going. Actually she dragged me along as I was worried about violence from the counter protesters side. There were other elderly people there, and next time there will be even more. The tide is turning and we are no longer afraid to voice our opinions. BPS II is no crackpot group either, no-one was kicked out of UKIP, stop with the lies as it makes you look desperate. Britchick2014
  • Score: 3

3:28am Sun 3 Aug 14

Britchick2014 says...

StopwiththeBS wrote:
bolton12 wrote:
This was posted on facebook earlier with a lovely photo - why hasn't Bolton News put photo's and reports like this on:

My 79yr old mum today at the Super Mosque protest in Bolton today
My sister was also there, this is what she has to say about today's events ~{Sara}
I am a Boltonian, I'm 60yrs old and my mum's 79yrs old and we were there as well as many ... See More
Photo: My 79yr old mum today at the Super Mosque protest in Bolton today :)
My sister was also there, this is what she has to say about today's events ~{Sara}
I am a Boltonian, I'm 60yrs old and my mum's 79yrs old and we were there as well as many other elderly women and men. We are just ordinary Bolton people who joined this protest to demonstrate our opinions, which are; there are already far too many mosques in Bolton and a Super Mosque is most definitely not needed, especially on Blackburn Road.
On the coach on the way to the protest Muslim women were stood in their doorways giving us the fingers and when we got there, there were no Muslim women to be seen at all, only Muslim men. There was also some white hippy looking type people with the Muslim counter protesters who were giving us the fingers, especially the women!
I am absolutely disgusted by the biased and down right incorrect reporting of the Bolton News about today's events. There were more protesters than counter protesters, we out numbered them by far. The only fireworks that were set off was by the Muslims and were thrown into our section of the protesters. They were abusive, violent, and taunting us all. The Muslim counter protesters also burned an English flag. Although some protesters rose to the taunting, the majority of Boltonians that were there; men, women, old and young alike were peaceful.
As we sat on the coach waiting to go, one side of the coach was facing the Muslim counter protesters and they became very abusive and lewd, they started sticking their tongues out at us and licking their lips, playing with their nipples and rubbing their crotch's and one man actually exposed himself to us.
This is the truth and what really happened. Please share this so people know what is being written in the Bolton News is wrong!
Thank-You.
Because It comes from a known liar, Sara Roocroft, who is renowned for making things up and is leader of the British Patriots Society. If you visit the facebook page you can see the several edits it went through before getting in the state it is in in the above quote. This includes adding an extra 73 words over the course of a few hours and changing a number of the 'facts'.

Basically. They don;t print ****.

Which is sort of why you lot are so upset.
How dare you, I wrote this initially on BN comments, then Sara put it on BPSII, I kept remembering more details which she then added to my original comments. My sister is not a liar and neither am I or my mother; who is the elderly lady in the picture.
Why do you have to twist everything? I have never come across such blatant liars as you before. It's no wonder this country is in such a mess, you are a disgrace!
[quote][p][bold]StopwiththeBS[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bolton12[/bold] wrote: This was posted on facebook earlier with a lovely photo - why hasn't Bolton News put photo's and reports like this on: My 79yr old mum today at the Super Mosque protest in Bolton today My sister was also there, this is what she has to say about today's events ~{Sara} I am a Boltonian, I'm 60yrs old and my mum's 79yrs old and we were there as well as many ... See More Photo: My 79yr old mum today at the Super Mosque protest in Bolton today :) My sister was also there, this is what she has to say about today's events ~{Sara} I am a Boltonian, I'm 60yrs old and my mum's 79yrs old and we were there as well as many other elderly women and men. We are just ordinary Bolton people who joined this protest to demonstrate our opinions, which are; there are already far too many mosques in Bolton and a Super Mosque is most definitely not needed, especially on Blackburn Road. On the coach on the way to the protest Muslim women were stood in their doorways giving us the fingers and when we got there, there were no Muslim women to be seen at all, only Muslim men. There was also some white hippy looking type people with the Muslim counter protesters who were giving us the fingers, especially the women! I am absolutely disgusted by the biased and down right incorrect reporting of the Bolton News about today's events. There were more protesters than counter protesters, we out numbered them by far. The only fireworks that were set off was by the Muslims and were thrown into our section of the protesters. They were abusive, violent, and taunting us all. The Muslim counter protesters also burned an English flag. Although some protesters rose to the taunting, the majority of Boltonians that were there; men, women, old and young alike were peaceful. As we sat on the coach waiting to go, one side of the coach was facing the Muslim counter protesters and they became very abusive and lewd, they started sticking their tongues out at us and licking their lips, playing with their nipples and rubbing their crotch's and one man actually exposed himself to us. This is the truth and what really happened. Please share this so people know what is being written in the Bolton News is wrong! Thank-You.[/p][/quote]Because It comes from a known liar, Sara Roocroft, who is renowned for making things up and is leader of the British Patriots Society. If you visit the facebook page you can see the several edits it went through before getting in the state it is in in the above quote. This includes adding an extra 73 words over the course of a few hours and changing a number of the 'facts'. Basically. They don;t print ****. Which is sort of why you lot are so upset.[/p][/quote]How dare you, I wrote this initially on BN comments, then Sara put it on BPSII, I kept remembering more details which she then added to my original comments. My sister is not a liar and neither am I or my mother; who is the elderly lady in the picture. Why do you have to twist everything? I have never come across such blatant liars as you before. It's no wonder this country is in such a mess, you are a disgrace! Britchick2014
  • Score: 3

3:32am Sun 3 Aug 14

Tim Burr says...

Britchick2014 wrote:
Tim Burr wrote:
bolton12 wrote:
Tim Burr wrote:
Posted by another crackpot group British Patriots Society II, bolton12
No Tim Burr, posted by a concerned resident from Astley Bridge with a photo of the lady at the protest.
Posted by British Patriots Society II - who are ex UKIP booted for racism and EDL affiliations.

Hmm, the next question is, why on earth would you take granny along to a demo attended by foul mouthed morons.
Totally untrue and nobody took my mother along she was adamant she was going. Actually she dragged me along as I was worried about violence from the counter protesters side. There were other elderly people there, and next time there will be even more. The tide is turning and we are no longer afraid to voice our opinions.
BPS II is no crackpot group either, no-one was kicked out of UKIP, stop with the lies as it makes you look desperate.
The irony.

The tide better be quick if you've now got to rely on Bolton OAP's. What's next, armoured scooters?

As for BPS II what happened to BPS - BPS1? Where they closed down too?
[quote][p][bold]Britchick2014[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bolton12[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: Posted by another crackpot group British Patriots Society II, bolton12[/p][/quote]No Tim Burr, posted by a concerned resident from Astley Bridge with a photo of the lady at the protest.[/p][/quote]Posted by British Patriots Society II - who are ex UKIP booted for racism and EDL affiliations. Hmm, the next question is, why on earth would you take granny along to a demo attended by foul mouthed morons.[/p][/quote]Totally untrue and nobody took my mother along she was adamant she was going. Actually she dragged me along as I was worried about violence from the counter protesters side. There were other elderly people there, and next time there will be even more. The tide is turning and we are no longer afraid to voice our opinions. BPS II is no crackpot group either, no-one was kicked out of UKIP, stop with the lies as it makes you look desperate.[/p][/quote]The irony. The tide better be quick if you've now got to rely on Bolton OAP's. What's next, armoured scooters? As for BPS II what happened to BPS - BPS1? Where they closed down too? Tim Burr
  • Score: -9

5:13am Sun 3 Aug 14

longballs r us says...

tommytheinfadel wrote:
well i for one have lodged a complaint against julian thorpe for labelling people infadels and racial profiling, racism and hate crimes

this is illegal and is racist

i attended the rally, and i am a 40 year old solicitor from bolton, and appear in photos labelling me an infadel by julian thorpe, i have no connection with the group at all. your racial hatrad and illegal racial profiling is like labelling muslim protests as al queda ( just incase there was a al queda member there )............. you are a total disgrace and i am seriously offended by your article and will ensure you no longer work as a editor ever again, you are disgusting and racist !!!

i will be pursuing charges personally against him and have been in contact with newsquest today, sending them the photos where i am labelled a infadel

i will accept nothing more than his resignation or dismissal and will ensure this article is the last he rubber stamps in his life

see you soon julian

Timothy
I doubt you are a solicitor as you claim. A solicitor would write in a clear and concise manner.
[quote][p][bold]tommytheinfadel[/bold] wrote: well i for one have lodged a complaint against julian thorpe for labelling people infadels and racial profiling, racism and hate crimes this is illegal and is racist i attended the rally, and i am a 40 year old solicitor from bolton, and appear in photos labelling me an infadel by julian thorpe, i have no connection with the group at all. your racial hatrad and illegal racial profiling is like labelling muslim protests as al queda ( just incase there was a al queda member there )............. you are a total disgrace and i am seriously offended by your article and will ensure you no longer work as a editor ever again, you are disgusting and racist !!! i will be pursuing charges personally against him and have been in contact with newsquest today, sending them the photos where i am labelled a infadel i will accept nothing more than his resignation or dismissal and will ensure this article is the last he rubber stamps in his life see you soon julian Timothy[/p][/quote]I doubt you are a solicitor as you claim. A solicitor would write in a clear and concise manner. longballs r us
  • Score: 16

6:53am Sun 3 Aug 14

alfaromeogt says...

boltonfree wrote:
I am white English and I think I must be missing something as I'm not scared about a mosque being built and in no way do I feel like a second class citizen. It makes me laugh people spouting nonsense that all Muslim countries are in civil war as a non Muslim country has never had a civil war? Most of the major wars have been caused by non muslims so I think we must be as bad as them according to some. The edl, bnp or whatever they want to call themselves just need to leave bolton alone as aloe of people don't want them here. Only 200 people that just shows alot of people are keyboard warriors who probably play on call of duty pretending they are protecting England what a joke.
You should read the book entitled Silenced: How Apostasy and Blasphemy Codes Are Choking Freedom Worldwide. This book describes life in Islamic countries and the efforts made by the OIC make within the United Nations introduce Islamic blasphemy laws worldwide. This is s critically ACL aimed book;not obey written by some right wing nutty group. The second book you should read is by Stephen Linker from Harvard University entitled The Better Angels of Our Nature: A History of Violence and Humanity . This book deals either violence over the pas 5000 years. While violence in the west especially in Europe is st its lowest levels ever, not so in Islamic countries. 37% of countries are Islamic and over 60% of conflicts in the world involve these. You should read before spouting of you ignorant comments
[quote][p][bold]boltonfree[/bold] wrote: I am white English and I think I must be missing something as I'm not scared about a mosque being built and in no way do I feel like a second class citizen. It makes me laugh people spouting nonsense that all Muslim countries are in civil war as a non Muslim country has never had a civil war? Most of the major wars have been caused by non muslims so I think we must be as bad as them according to some. The edl, bnp or whatever they want to call themselves just need to leave bolton alone as aloe of people don't want them here. Only 200 people that just shows alot of people are keyboard warriors who probably play on call of duty pretending they are protecting England what a joke.[/p][/quote]You should read the book entitled Silenced: How Apostasy and Blasphemy Codes Are Choking Freedom Worldwide. This book describes life in Islamic countries and the efforts made by the OIC make within the United Nations introduce Islamic blasphemy laws worldwide. This is s critically ACL aimed book;not obey written by some right wing nutty group. The second book you should read is by Stephen Linker from Harvard University entitled The Better Angels of Our Nature: A History of Violence and Humanity . This book deals either violence over the pas 5000 years. While violence in the west especially in Europe is st its lowest levels ever, not so in Islamic countries. 37% of countries are Islamic and over 60% of conflicts in the world involve these. You should read before spouting of you ignorant comments alfaromeogt
  • Score: 7

6:57am Sun 3 Aug 14

alfaromeogt says...

dameous wrote:
RE Tim Burr

Are you affiliated with the Bolton News? I only ask as I am curious as to why the BN does not approach these events with any degree of impartiality? Before I continue I wish to state that I don't have anything against the mosque being built, although I am an atheist and do have a problem with organised religion in general, as it promotes belief without question, and anything that instructs people not to think and to pass over all control doesn't sit well with me at all. From what I saw today, there were two sides spewing hatred at each other, and both were guilty of overstepping the mark of common decency on occasion, but for some reason the article is biased against only one of the protagonists. While the BN might find the political views of one side unsavoury, surely a fair and even handed account of what happened is more in keeping with the traditions of a local, non politically motivated newspaper, unless of course that isn't the case at all, and the BN has a biased agenda? I would certainly like to believe that isn't the case, but the current state of the UK media doesn't fill me with confidence, as it seems its just a propaganda machine for whatever affiliated party/organisation is paying its wages.

Surely, in this age, we should be breaking away from the shackles of religious ideology and not promoting belief systems that reduce women to second class citizens that are mere property, values that reduce non believers to being unclean or beneath those that believe in a particular faith, and persecute people on their sexual orientation. This goes for all belief systems, not just Islam. We should be building centres that promote true community and understanding, between all people, breaking away from the barriers that divide us, rather than encouraging the means to separate us. We are all human, we all come into this life the same way and we all exit it in the same manner. Instead it seems the political parties of this country are more obsessed with votes, and will pander to any organization that will guarantee these, rather than actually try to sort out the problems of division in our communities. Its just a shame we don't seem to have an unbiased, non-union lead/party affiliated press to actually discuss this, rather than revert to the classic "There is no problem, its just some racists" line that the BN seems to think will solve everything. There should be no political agenda here, there should be no religious agenda, it should be for the good of Bolton as a whole. Sadly, It doesn't seem like that's the case.
Well said. Religion is the root of all evil
[quote][p][bold]dameous[/bold] wrote: RE Tim Burr Are you affiliated with the Bolton News? I only ask as I am curious as to why the BN does not approach these events with any degree of impartiality? Before I continue I wish to state that I don't have anything against the mosque being built, although I am an atheist and do have a problem with organised religion in general, as it promotes belief without question, and anything that instructs people not to think and to pass over all control doesn't sit well with me at all. From what I saw today, there were two sides spewing hatred at each other, and both were guilty of overstepping the mark of common decency on occasion, but for some reason the article is biased against only one of the protagonists. While the BN might find the political views of one side unsavoury, surely a fair and even handed account of what happened is more in keeping with the traditions of a local, non politically motivated newspaper, unless of course that isn't the case at all, and the BN has a biased agenda? I would certainly like to believe that isn't the case, but the current state of the UK media doesn't fill me with confidence, as it seems its just a propaganda machine for whatever affiliated party/organisation is paying its wages. Surely, in this age, we should be breaking away from the shackles of religious ideology and not promoting belief systems that reduce women to second class citizens that are mere property, values that reduce non believers to being unclean or beneath those that believe in a particular faith, and persecute people on their sexual orientation. This goes for all belief systems, not just Islam. We should be building centres that promote true community and understanding, between all people, breaking away from the barriers that divide us, rather than encouraging the means to separate us. We are all human, we all come into this life the same way and we all exit it in the same manner. Instead it seems the political parties of this country are more obsessed with votes, and will pander to any organization that will guarantee these, rather than actually try to sort out the problems of division in our communities. Its just a shame we don't seem to have an unbiased, non-union lead/party affiliated press to actually discuss this, rather than revert to the classic "There is no problem, its just some racists" line that the BN seems to think will solve everything. There should be no political agenda here, there should be no religious agenda, it should be for the good of Bolton as a whole. Sadly, It doesn't seem like that's the case.[/p][/quote]Well said. Religion is the root of all evil alfaromeogt
  • Score: 3

6:57am Sun 3 Aug 14

alfaromeogt says...

dameous wrote:
RE Tim Burr

Are you affiliated with the Bolton News? I only ask as I am curious as to why the BN does not approach these events with any degree of impartiality? Before I continue I wish to state that I don't have anything against the mosque being built, although I am an atheist and do have a problem with organised religion in general, as it promotes belief without question, and anything that instructs people not to think and to pass over all control doesn't sit well with me at all. From what I saw today, there were two sides spewing hatred at each other, and both were guilty of overstepping the mark of common decency on occasion, but for some reason the article is biased against only one of the protagonists. While the BN might find the political views of one side unsavoury, surely a fair and even handed account of what happened is more in keeping with the traditions of a local, non politically motivated newspaper, unless of course that isn't the case at all, and the BN has a biased agenda? I would certainly like to believe that isn't the case, but the current state of the UK media doesn't fill me with confidence, as it seems its just a propaganda machine for whatever affiliated party/organisation is paying its wages.

Surely, in this age, we should be breaking away from the shackles of religious ideology and not promoting belief systems that reduce women to second class citizens that are mere property, values that reduce non believers to being unclean or beneath those that believe in a particular faith, and persecute people on their sexual orientation. This goes for all belief systems, not just Islam. We should be building centres that promote true community and understanding, between all people, breaking away from the barriers that divide us, rather than encouraging the means to separate us. We are all human, we all come into this life the same way and we all exit it in the same manner. Instead it seems the political parties of this country are more obsessed with votes, and will pander to any organization that will guarantee these, rather than actually try to sort out the problems of division in our communities. Its just a shame we don't seem to have an unbiased, non-union lead/party affiliated press to actually discuss this, rather than revert to the classic "There is no problem, its just some racists" line that the BN seems to think will solve everything. There should be no political agenda here, there should be no religious agenda, it should be for the good of Bolton as a whole. Sadly, It doesn't seem like that's the case.
Well said. Religion is the root of all evil
[quote][p][bold]dameous[/bold] wrote: RE Tim Burr Are you affiliated with the Bolton News? I only ask as I am curious as to why the BN does not approach these events with any degree of impartiality? Before I continue I wish to state that I don't have anything against the mosque being built, although I am an atheist and do have a problem with organised religion in general, as it promotes belief without question, and anything that instructs people not to think and to pass over all control doesn't sit well with me at all. From what I saw today, there were two sides spewing hatred at each other, and both were guilty of overstepping the mark of common decency on occasion, but for some reason the article is biased against only one of the protagonists. While the BN might find the political views of one side unsavoury, surely a fair and even handed account of what happened is more in keeping with the traditions of a local, non politically motivated newspaper, unless of course that isn't the case at all, and the BN has a biased agenda? I would certainly like to believe that isn't the case, but the current state of the UK media doesn't fill me with confidence, as it seems its just a propaganda machine for whatever affiliated party/organisation is paying its wages. Surely, in this age, we should be breaking away from the shackles of religious ideology and not promoting belief systems that reduce women to second class citizens that are mere property, values that reduce non believers to being unclean or beneath those that believe in a particular faith, and persecute people on their sexual orientation. This goes for all belief systems, not just Islam. We should be building centres that promote true community and understanding, between all people, breaking away from the barriers that divide us, rather than encouraging the means to separate us. We are all human, we all come into this life the same way and we all exit it in the same manner. Instead it seems the political parties of this country are more obsessed with votes, and will pander to any organization that will guarantee these, rather than actually try to sort out the problems of division in our communities. Its just a shame we don't seem to have an unbiased, non-union lead/party affiliated press to actually discuss this, rather than revert to the classic "There is no problem, its just some racists" line that the BN seems to think will solve everything. There should be no political agenda here, there should be no religious agenda, it should be for the good of Bolton as a whole. Sadly, It doesn't seem like that's the case.[/p][/quote]Well said. Religion is the root of all evil alfaromeogt
  • Score: -3

7:14am Sun 3 Aug 14

alfaromeogt says...

alfaromeogt wrote:
dameous wrote:
RE Tim Burr

Are you affiliated with the Bolton News? I only ask as I am curious as to why the BN does not approach these events with any degree of impartiality? Before I continue I wish to state that I don't have anything against the mosque being built, although I am an atheist and do have a problem with organised religion in general, as it promotes belief without question, and anything that instructs people not to think and to pass over all control doesn't sit well with me at all. From what I saw today, there were two sides spewing hatred at each other, and both were guilty of overstepping the mark of common decency on occasion, but for some reason the article is biased against only one of the protagonists. While the BN might find the political views of one side unsavoury, surely a fair and even handed account of what happened is more in keeping with the traditions of a local, non politically motivated newspaper, unless of course that isn't the case at all, and the BN has a biased agenda? I would certainly like to believe that isn't the case, but the current state of the UK media doesn't fill me with confidence, as it seems its just a propaganda machine for whatever affiliated party/organisation is paying its wages.

Surely, in this age, we should be breaking away from the shackles of religious ideology and not promoting belief systems that reduce women to second class citizens that are mere property, values that reduce non believers to being unclean or beneath those that believe in a particular faith, and persecute people on their sexual orientation. This goes for all belief systems, not just Islam. We should be building centres that promote true community and understanding, between all people, breaking away from the barriers that divide us, rather than encouraging the means to separate us. We are all human, we all come into this life the same way and we all exit it in the same manner. Instead it seems the political parties of this country are more obsessed with votes, and will pander to any organization that will guarantee these, rather than actually try to sort out the problems of division in our communities. Its just a shame we don't seem to have an unbiased, non-union lead/party affiliated press to actually discuss this, rather than revert to the classic "There is no problem, its just some racists" line that the BN seems to think will solve everything. There should be no political agenda here, there should be no religious agenda, it should be for the good of Bolton as a whole. Sadly, It doesn't seem like that's the case.
Well said. Religion is the root of all evil
All this uproar because we still have groups of people who believe in fairytales and want to build places to worship non-existent entities. The quicker the world is rid of the virus called religion the better people will get on.
I read a clever quote on Twitter this morning by Ali A. Riza, Religion is like smoking. Smoking is a filthy habit, but most smokers are not filthy people.

Richard Dawkins wrote, Religion, together we can find a cure.
Lets hope do then we don't have any of thus type of protest.

Spelling errors due to using s small tablet with predictive words
[quote][p][bold]alfaromeogt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dameous[/bold] wrote: RE Tim Burr Are you affiliated with the Bolton News? I only ask as I am curious as to why the BN does not approach these events with any degree of impartiality? Before I continue I wish to state that I don't have anything against the mosque being built, although I am an atheist and do have a problem with organised religion in general, as it promotes belief without question, and anything that instructs people not to think and to pass over all control doesn't sit well with me at all. From what I saw today, there were two sides spewing hatred at each other, and both were guilty of overstepping the mark of common decency on occasion, but for some reason the article is biased against only one of the protagonists. While the BN might find the political views of one side unsavoury, surely a fair and even handed account of what happened is more in keeping with the traditions of a local, non politically motivated newspaper, unless of course that isn't the case at all, and the BN has a biased agenda? I would certainly like to believe that isn't the case, but the current state of the UK media doesn't fill me with confidence, as it seems its just a propaganda machine for whatever affiliated party/organisation is paying its wages. Surely, in this age, we should be breaking away from the shackles of religious ideology and not promoting belief systems that reduce women to second class citizens that are mere property, values that reduce non believers to being unclean or beneath those that believe in a particular faith, and persecute people on their sexual orientation. This goes for all belief systems, not just Islam. We should be building centres that promote true community and understanding, between all people, breaking away from the barriers that divide us, rather than encouraging the means to separate us. We are all human, we all come into this life the same way and we all exit it in the same manner. Instead it seems the political parties of this country are more obsessed with votes, and will pander to any organization that will guarantee these, rather than actually try to sort out the problems of division in our communities. Its just a shame we don't seem to have an unbiased, non-union lead/party affiliated press to actually discuss this, rather than revert to the classic "There is no problem, its just some racists" line that the BN seems to think will solve everything. There should be no political agenda here, there should be no religious agenda, it should be for the good of Bolton as a whole. Sadly, It doesn't seem like that's the case.[/p][/quote]Well said. Religion is the root of all evil[/p][/quote]All this uproar because we still have groups of people who believe in fairytales and want to build places to worship non-existent entities. The quicker the world is rid of the virus called religion the better people will get on. I read a clever quote on Twitter this morning by Ali A. Riza, Religion is like smoking. Smoking is a filthy habit, but most smokers are not filthy people. Richard Dawkins wrote, Religion, together we can find a cure. Lets hope do then we don't have any of thus type of protest. Spelling errors due to using s small tablet with predictive words alfaromeogt
  • Score: -5

7:35am Sun 3 Aug 14

alfaromeogt says...

DAUBHILLISRUINED wrote:
albertmodley says...

Does anyone know whether Muslim Girls ever marry white non- mulim males and start integrating with a multi cultural mixed race society.If not why?


ANSWER-
No it's a very rare sight indeed.
because they never integrate and never will.
My cousin has married a Muslim girl. She is westernized, complains about girls wearing veils, is educated and is from a Muslim sect that believes that Muslims should integrate into Western society, the Ismailis.
PS sh is most an atheist these days
[quote][p][bold]DAUBHILLISRUINED[/bold] wrote: albertmodley says... Does anyone know whether Muslim Girls ever marry white non- mulim males and start integrating with a multi cultural mixed race society.If not why? ANSWER- No it's a very rare sight indeed. because they never integrate and never will.[/p][/quote]My cousin has married a Muslim girl. She is westernized, complains about girls wearing veils, is educated and is from a Muslim sect that believes that Muslims should integrate into Western society, the Ismailis. PS sh is most an atheist these days alfaromeogt
  • Score: 4

8:04am Sun 3 Aug 14

longballs r us says...

One of my mates who is not racist phoned me and told me he was going to protest against the number of mosques being built. On his return from his protest he rang me and said it was disappointing that after all that planning only 200 turned up. He said our leader the roaring Welsh Dragon Bryn Morgan wanted to breathe fire into the protestors, but the Bolton weather and the lack of support could not ignite the fire in his belly.
He was so upset I said don't worry you are still welcome to my house and have samosas.
I said just put on your Facebook that it was a roaring success. Coaches came from all parts of the UK to protest and it was amazing to see the support and more importantly it was very peaceful. Nobody made any racial slur apart from the Opposition to our very peaceful protest.
Write they burnt the Union Jack swore and spat at us and you will get a million likes.
One of my mates who is not racist phoned me and told me he was going to protest against the number of mosques being built. On his return from his protest he rang me and said it was disappointing that after all that planning only 200 turned up. He said our leader the roaring Welsh Dragon Bryn Morgan wanted to breathe fire into the protestors, but the Bolton weather and the lack of support could not ignite the fire in his belly. He was so upset I said don't worry you are still welcome to my house and have samosas. I said just put on your Facebook that it was a roaring success. Coaches came from all parts of the UK to protest and it was amazing to see the support and more importantly it was very peaceful. Nobody made any racial slur apart from the Opposition to our very peaceful protest. Write they burnt the Union Jack swore and spat at us and you will get a million likes. longballs r us
  • Score: 1

8:08am Sun 3 Aug 14

taverner says...

Truered270 wrote:
The racists today were chanting Muslim pedos off our street lol. Name 1 muslim paedophile? I can name some non muslim ones without even thinking. Jimmy saville and Rolf Harris immediately come to mind and guess what they both aren't muslim so I suggest you keep your trap shut you uneducated racist people
Your right besides the celebrity pedos there's politicians hiding files too. However what you can not deny is from Oxford to Scotland and down to Wales Rochdale and Northampton there have been large groups of men running child sex rings . And if you google you will see there religious ethnic backgrounds .time for the community's to help the police to bring down these pedophiles they give your people dishonour and bad press.
[quote][p][bold]Truered270[/bold] wrote: The racists today were chanting Muslim pedos off our street lol. Name 1 muslim paedophile? I can name some non muslim ones without even thinking. Jimmy saville and Rolf Harris immediately come to mind and guess what they both aren't muslim so I suggest you keep your trap shut you uneducated racist people[/p][/quote]Your right besides the celebrity pedos there's politicians hiding files too. However what you can not deny is from Oxford to Scotland and down to Wales Rochdale and Northampton there have been large groups of men running child sex rings . And if you google you will see there religious ethnic backgrounds .time for the community's to help the police to bring down these pedophiles they give your people dishonour and bad press. taverner
  • Score: 9

8:12am Sun 3 Aug 14

alfaromeogt says...

pradagucci wrote:
Mick England wrote:
Is islam a race?
Its a way of life. Read the Qur'an it was the biggest selling book after 9/11 on Amazon and converted thousands. Why is it the fastest growing religion on earth? Why has so many white British woman converted to Islam and still converting. Google " lady evelyn cobbold " she was a Scottish aristocrat who also converted to Islam and was the first British woman to go Mecca. Love to all ........
Only when women w ant to be treated like second class property.

Read the website one law or all http://www.onelawfor
all.org.uk/
Or Southall black sisters http://www.southallb
lacksisters.org.uk

Both organisations set up for ethnic women's rights
[quote][p][bold]pradagucci[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mick England[/bold] wrote: Is islam a race?[/p][/quote]Its a way of life. Read the Qur'an it was the biggest selling book after 9/11 on Amazon and converted thousands. Why is it the fastest growing religion on earth? Why has so many white British woman converted to Islam and still converting. Google " lady evelyn cobbold " she was a Scottish aristocrat who also converted to Islam and was the first British woman to go Mecca. Love to all ........[/p][/quote]Only when women w ant to be treated like second class property. Read the website one law or all http://www.onelawfor all.org.uk/ Or Southall black sisters http://www.southallb lacksisters.org.uk Both organisations set up for ethnic women's rights alfaromeogt
  • Score: 1

8:21am Sun 3 Aug 14

Mick England says...

The planning committee need to take into account the issue of Islamic doctrine, which is what this site will be used for. That is contrary to incitement law, public order law, hate speech law and equalities law. They can try and ignore that but they can't get away from it, they will one day be held to account for that. This is their legal standing, and they should have the utmost respect for that. They should think long and hard about their responsibilites!
The planning committee need to take into account the issue of Islamic doctrine, which is what this site will be used for. That is contrary to incitement law, public order law, hate speech law and equalities law. They can try and ignore that but they can't get away from it, they will one day be held to account for that. This is their legal standing, and they should have the utmost respect for that. They should think long and hard about their responsibilites! Mick England
  • Score: -1

8:33am Sun 3 Aug 14

Robert2012 says...

taverner wrote:
Truered270 wrote:
The racists today were chanting Muslim pedos off our street lol. Name 1 muslim paedophile? I can name some non muslim ones without even thinking. Jimmy saville and Rolf Harris immediately come to mind and guess what they both aren't muslim so I suggest you keep your trap shut you uneducated racist people
Your right besides the celebrity pedos there's politicians hiding files too. However what you can not deny is from Oxford to Scotland and down to Wales Rochdale and Northampton there have been large groups of men running child sex rings . And if you google you will see there religious ethnic backgrounds .time for the community's to help the police to bring down these pedophiles they give your people dishonour and bad press.
Please don't bring facts into it.....

It dispels all their fairy tales and BS...how many trials have we had across the country where gangs of Asian men have drugged, raped and targeting vulnerable white girls....still what do we expect when they can marry a child in some of these Muslim enclaves.

I still don't see any of the ANAL supporters even acknowledging the you tube link I posted above...

Yet another fact that fires great big holes into their propaganda....

And I would say this...to label anyone who dares to protest a knuckle dragging racist just makes you look stupid, as it was apparent that there were all types of local people there young old black white...

Not a load of beanie hat wearing, student type union members from Manchester, like Lindsay Bessell.
[quote][p][bold]taverner[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Truered270[/bold] wrote: The racists today were chanting Muslim pedos off our street lol. Name 1 muslim paedophile? I can name some non muslim ones without even thinking. Jimmy saville and Rolf Harris immediately come to mind and guess what they both aren't muslim so I suggest you keep your trap shut you uneducated racist people[/p][/quote]Your right besides the celebrity pedos there's politicians hiding files too. However what you can not deny is from Oxford to Scotland and down to Wales Rochdale and Northampton there have been large groups of men running child sex rings . And if you google you will see there religious ethnic backgrounds .time for the community's to help the police to bring down these pedophiles they give your people dishonour and bad press.[/p][/quote]Please don't bring facts into it..... It dispels all their fairy tales and BS...how many trials have we had across the country where gangs of Asian men have drugged, raped and targeting vulnerable white girls....still what do we expect when they can marry a child in some of these Muslim enclaves. I still don't see any of the ANAL supporters even acknowledging the you tube link I posted above... Yet another fact that fires great big holes into their propaganda.... And I would say this...to label anyone who dares to protest a knuckle dragging racist just makes you look stupid, as it was apparent that there were all types of local people there young old black white... Not a load of beanie hat wearing, student type union members from Manchester, like Lindsay Bessell. Robert2012
  • Score: -2

9:07am Sun 3 Aug 14

united99 says...

Micky England Robert 2012 you are just trying to stir things up with your laughable comments and trying to get support it is not working.
As for the solicitor who is going to take the editor to court I hope Bryn Morgan is not a witness for you ???
Micky England Robert 2012 you are just trying to stir things up with your laughable comments and trying to get support it is not working. As for the solicitor who is going to take the editor to court I hope Bryn Morgan is not a witness for you ??? united99
  • Score: -4

9:29am Sun 3 Aug 14

Robert2012 says...

united99 wrote:
Micky England Robert 2012 you are just trying to stir things up with your laughable comments and trying to get support it is not working.
As for the solicitor who is going to take the editor to court I hope Bryn Morgan is not a witness for you ???
What's laughable?

The reporter who is abused in Luton by Fully Burka clad women or the rest of the video that shows exactly what some want in this country?

The fact that gangs of Asian men have drugged and raped vulnerable girls in care?

They are stone cold facts...not internet BS....

You ignore them as much as you want, that's half the problem.
[quote][p][bold]united99[/bold] wrote: Micky England Robert 2012 you are just trying to stir things up with your laughable comments and trying to get support it is not working. As for the solicitor who is going to take the editor to court I hope Bryn Morgan is not a witness for you ???[/p][/quote]What's laughable? The reporter who is abused in Luton by Fully Burka clad women or the rest of the video that shows exactly what some want in this country? The fact that gangs of Asian men have drugged and raped vulnerable girls in care? They are stone cold facts...not internet BS.... You ignore them as much as you want, that's half the problem. Robert2012
  • Score: 0

9:48am Sun 3 Aug 14

Thatissowrong says...

tommytheinfadel wrote:
well i for one have lodged a complaint against julian thorpe for labelling people infadels and racial profiling, racism and hate crimes

this is illegal and is racist

i attended the rally, and i am a 40 year old solicitor from bolton, and appear in photos labelling me an infadel by julian thorpe, i have no connection with the group at all. your racial hatrad and illegal racial profiling is like labelling muslim protests as al queda ( just incase there was a al queda member there )............. you are a total disgrace and i am seriously offended by your article and will ensure you no longer work as a editor ever again, you are disgusting and racist !!!

i will be pursuing charges personally against him and have been in contact with newsquest today, sending them the photos where i am labelled a infadel

i will accept nothing more than his resignation or dismissal and will ensure this article is the last he rubber stamps in his life

see you soon julian

Timothy
Your content, style and syntax are remarkably similar to BWFC71 who was banned from this site a few weeks ago, and he too claimed to be a lawyer. Just a thought. In case I'm correct 2 teas no sugar please.
[quote][p][bold]tommytheinfadel[/bold] wrote: well i for one have lodged a complaint against julian thorpe for labelling people infadels and racial profiling, racism and hate crimes this is illegal and is racist i attended the rally, and i am a 40 year old solicitor from bolton, and appear in photos labelling me an infadel by julian thorpe, i have no connection with the group at all. your racial hatrad and illegal racial profiling is like labelling muslim protests as al queda ( just incase there was a al queda member there )............. you are a total disgrace and i am seriously offended by your article and will ensure you no longer work as a editor ever again, you are disgusting and racist !!! i will be pursuing charges personally against him and have been in contact with newsquest today, sending them the photos where i am labelled a infadel i will accept nothing more than his resignation or dismissal and will ensure this article is the last he rubber stamps in his life see you soon julian Timothy[/p][/quote]Your content, style and syntax are remarkably similar to BWFC71 who was banned from this site a few weeks ago, and he too claimed to be a lawyer. Just a thought. In case I'm correct 2 teas no sugar please. Thatissowrong
  • Score: 13

9:51am Sun 3 Aug 14

Citizen Cane says...

pradagucci wrote:
Citizen Cane wrote:
pradagucci wrote:
Lynn57 wrote:
There was a march today in London which was not reported by the BBC or the newspapers but it is circulating on Facebook. Muslims have been going around London carrying placards with slogans as follows. "Prepare for a European 9 11" "non Islam people should be beheaded" and other slogans designed to incite racial hatred. The pictures show a policeman standing by doing precisely nothing. This is not our country anymore.
Prove it. Such a protest in 2014 cannot go undetected???????
...do you deny the reported and documented pictures of a young muslim male in London a few weeks ago with a scrawled statement saying "Hitler was right" (targeted at the Jewish community) - racist : yes?

- do you deny the documented increase in hate crimes by young muslim men against Jewish people and synagogues in the UK, including in Manchester?

...neither of these have gone undetected
Do you deny 1650 woman and children killed by Israel? Last week a play area with kids playing got blown and killed 15 kids? With all the technology Israel has you can't say it was an accident, a school got bombed which the UN told Israel it's a school, still they go ahead and kill 35 kids again. Most of Europe call Israel's attack a war crime, why does Britain not invade Israel like they did with afgan and Iraq. Proper double standards.
Where did I say that I denied the Gazan deaths? They are fact....exactly the same as the facts that I stated that you have not acknowledged. Kindly do so, rather than deflect.

The Israelis have done far worse than you allude to. All of these actions should be condemned.

Be careful about your allegations of war crimes. Firing rockets at Tel Aviv is hardly a justifiable military objective. Perhaps Britain should invade Gaza also, using your logic?

Britain should have gone into neither Iraq nor Afghanistan. Iraq was essentially an enforced secular nation ruled by a despot. That invasion appears to have helped no-one except ISIS. No doubt, you love that outcome. As for Afghanistan, that was history repeating itself. It isn't actually a country, but a loose and fragile association of tribes that don't trust each other. Any war there is unwinnable.

Pre-independence, Israeli, Jewish separatist fighters were termed terrorists by the Brits - has anything changed?

PS - I made no claim about an alleged London protest on Saturday.
[quote][p][bold]pradagucci[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Citizen Cane[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pradagucci[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lynn57[/bold] wrote: There was a march today in London which was not reported by the BBC or the newspapers but it is circulating on Facebook. Muslims have been going around London carrying placards with slogans as follows. "Prepare for a European 9 11" "non Islam people should be beheaded" and other slogans designed to incite racial hatred. The pictures show a policeman standing by doing precisely nothing. This is not our country anymore.[/p][/quote]Prove it. Such a protest in 2014 cannot go undetected???????[/p][/quote]...do you deny the reported and documented pictures of a young muslim male in London a few weeks ago with a scrawled statement saying "Hitler was right" (targeted at the Jewish community) - racist : yes? - do you deny the documented increase in hate crimes by young muslim men against Jewish people and synagogues in the UK, including in Manchester? ...neither of these have gone undetected[/p][/quote]Do you deny 1650 woman and children killed by Israel? Last week a play area with kids playing got blown and killed 15 kids? With all the technology Israel has you can't say it was an accident, a school got bombed which the UN told Israel it's a school, still they go ahead and kill 35 kids again. Most of Europe call Israel's attack a war crime, why does Britain not invade Israel like they did with afgan and Iraq. Proper double standards.[/p][/quote]Where did I say that I denied the Gazan deaths? They are fact....exactly the same as the facts that I stated that you have not acknowledged. Kindly do so, rather than deflect. The Israelis have done far worse than you allude to. All of these actions should be condemned. Be careful about your allegations of war crimes. Firing rockets at Tel Aviv is hardly a justifiable military objective. Perhaps Britain should invade Gaza also, using your logic? Britain should have gone into neither Iraq nor Afghanistan. Iraq was essentially an enforced secular nation ruled by a despot. That invasion appears to have helped no-one except ISIS. No doubt, you love that outcome. As for Afghanistan, that was history repeating itself. It isn't actually a country, but a loose and fragile association of tribes that don't trust each other. Any war there is unwinnable. Pre-independence, Israeli, Jewish separatist fighters were termed terrorists by the Brits - has anything changed? PS - I made no claim about an alleged London protest on Saturday. Citizen Cane
  • Score: 4

10:17am Sun 3 Aug 14

Dazivee says...

Surprise Surprise, the racist and islamophobia card has been used yet again..............i
slam is not a race!!!! so protest against an archaic ideaology and yes the population of the UK is starting to get a phobia of islam...............
.....we don't like it and don't want any more of it in the UK..................
....Multiculturalism
, ethnic diversity?? How is multiculturalism and ethnic diversity getting on in Saudi, in Iraq, in Iran, in Syria..............o
h yes I forgot, they don't allow it. don't tolerate it and persecute those who do not follow islam!
Surprise Surprise, the racist and islamophobia card has been used yet again..............i slam is not a race!!!! so protest against an archaic ideaology and yes the population of the UK is starting to get a phobia of islam............... .....we don't like it and don't want any more of it in the UK.................. ....Multiculturalism , ethnic diversity?? How is multiculturalism and ethnic diversity getting on in Saudi, in Iraq, in Iran, in Syria..............o h yes I forgot, they don't allow it. don't tolerate it and persecute those who do not follow islam! Dazivee
  • Score: 1

10:26am Sun 3 Aug 14

Mick England says...

united99 wrote:
Micky England Robert 2012 you are just trying to stir things up with your laughable comments and trying to get support it is not working.
As for the solicitor who is going to take the editor to court I hope Bryn Morgan is not a witness for you ???
My comments aren't laughable they're true, please explain why they're laughable?
[quote][p][bold]united99[/bold] wrote: Micky England Robert 2012 you are just trying to stir things up with your laughable comments and trying to get support it is not working. As for the solicitor who is going to take the editor to court I hope Bryn Morgan is not a witness for you ???[/p][/quote]My comments aren't laughable they're true, please explain why they're laughable? Mick England
  • Score: -4

10:27am Sun 3 Aug 14

Reed Lover says...

Robert2012 wrote:
taverner wrote:
Truered270 wrote:
The racists today were chanting Muslim pedos off our street lol. Name 1 muslim paedophile? I can name some non muslim ones without even thinking. Jimmy saville and Rolf Harris immediately come to mind and guess what they both aren't muslim so I suggest you keep your trap shut you uneducated racist people
Your right besides the celebrity pedos there's politicians hiding files too. However what you can not deny is from Oxford to Scotland and down to Wales Rochdale and Northampton there have been large groups of men running child sex rings . And if you google you will see there religious ethnic backgrounds .time for the community's to help the police to bring down these pedophiles they give your people dishonour and bad press.
Please don't bring facts into it.....

It dispels all their fairy tales and BS...how many trials have we had across the country where gangs of Asian men have drugged, raped and targeting vulnerable white girls....still what do we expect when they can marry a child in some of these Muslim enclaves.

I still don't see any of the ANAL supporters even acknowledging the you tube link I posted above...

Yet another fact that fires great big holes into their propaganda....

And I would say this...to label anyone who dares to protest a knuckle dragging racist just makes you look stupid, as it was apparent that there were all types of local people there young old black white...

Not a load of beanie hat wearing, student type union members from Manchester, like Lindsay Bessell.
The answer to your original question is 3.
Stuart Hall has been tried as many times as that. Savile is supposed to have systematically abused hundreds himself.
Sexual perversion and deviance is a human being thing, not a race or creed thing.
[quote][p][bold]Robert2012[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]taverner[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Truered270[/bold] wrote: The racists today were chanting Muslim pedos off our street lol. Name 1 muslim paedophile? I can name some non muslim ones without even thinking. Jimmy saville and Rolf Harris immediately come to mind and guess what they both aren't muslim so I suggest you keep your trap shut you uneducated racist people[/p][/quote]Your right besides the celebrity pedos there's politicians hiding files too. However what you can not deny is from Oxford to Scotland and down to Wales Rochdale and Northampton there have been large groups of men running child sex rings . And if you google you will see there religious ethnic backgrounds .time for the community's to help the police to bring down these pedophiles they give your people dishonour and bad press.[/p][/quote]Please don't bring facts into it..... It dispels all their fairy tales and BS...how many trials have we had across the country where gangs of Asian men have drugged, raped and targeting vulnerable white girls....still what do we expect when they can marry a child in some of these Muslim enclaves. I still don't see any of the ANAL supporters even acknowledging the you tube link I posted above... Yet another fact that fires great big holes into their propaganda.... And I would say this...to label anyone who dares to protest a knuckle dragging racist just makes you look stupid, as it was apparent that there were all types of local people there young old black white... Not a load of beanie hat wearing, student type union members from Manchester, like Lindsay Bessell.[/p][/quote]The answer to your original question is 3. Stuart Hall has been tried as many times as that. Savile is supposed to have systematically abused hundreds himself. Sexual perversion and deviance is a human being thing, not a race or creed thing. Reed Lover
  • Score: 5

10:41am Sun 3 Aug 14

Mick England says...

A phobia is an overwhelming and unreasonable fear of an object or situation that poses little real danger but provokes anxiety and avoidance.
.
I really don't believe that people's fear of islam is "unreasonable" neither do I believe that islam "poses little real danger!" Tell the acid attack victims, the hanging gay people, the jews, the Coptic Christians, the dead westernised muslim girls, Lee Rigby's family, Eugene Armstrongs family etc etc that their concerns on islam are "unreasonable" and that islam "poses little real danger!
A phobia is an overwhelming and unreasonable fear of an object or situation that poses little real danger but provokes anxiety and avoidance. . I really don't believe that people's fear of islam is "unreasonable" neither do I believe that islam "poses little real danger!" Tell the acid attack victims, the hanging gay people, the jews, the Coptic Christians, the dead westernised muslim girls, Lee Rigby's family, Eugene Armstrongs family etc etc that their concerns on islam are "unreasonable" and that islam "poses little real danger! Mick England
  • Score: -2

10:43am Sun 3 Aug 14

Reed Lover says...

Mick England wrote:
The planning committee need to take into account the issue of Islamic doctrine, which is what this site will be used for. That is contrary to incitement law, public order law, hate speech law and equalities law. They can try and ignore that but they can't get away from it, they will one day be held to account for that. This is their legal standing, and they should have the utmost respect for that. They should think long and hard about their responsibilites!
It's a bloody church and a place of teaching. This "doctrine" is based on the Old Testament, they worship the same god as Catholics, Protestants and Jews.
Your objections are so nonsensical that any right thinking person would presume that they are born of racism. And they are.

The mosque is on the site where there is a current mosque and the old electrical shop, both owned by the local community. Why are hundreds of deadlegs arriving from the 4 corners of England if it isn't about racism? There is another mosque around the corner but there's also two DISUSED Christian churches in the same neighbourhood and St Paul's, Holy Infants, and St Peter's a walk away.
The likes of you and your bullyboy friends are the biggest danger to this once proud and mighty country with your mean spirited, racist and angry divicisive views and actions. Anyone frightened of people going to church to praying to their God are going to be prettyj useless if we ever have to defend ourselves against a real invading power.
[quote][p][bold]Mick England[/bold] wrote: The planning committee need to take into account the issue of Islamic doctrine, which is what this site will be used for. That is contrary to incitement law, public order law, hate speech law and equalities law. They can try and ignore that but they can't get away from it, they will one day be held to account for that. This is their legal standing, and they should have the utmost respect for that. They should think long and hard about their responsibilites![/p][/quote]It's a bloody church and a place of teaching. This "doctrine" is based on the Old Testament, they worship the same god as Catholics, Protestants and Jews. Your objections are so nonsensical that any right thinking person would presume that they are born of racism. And they are. The mosque is on the site where there is a current mosque and the old electrical shop, both owned by the local community. Why are hundreds of deadlegs arriving from the 4 corners of England if it isn't about racism? There is another mosque around the corner but there's also two DISUSED Christian churches in the same neighbourhood and St Paul's, Holy Infants, and St Peter's a walk away. The likes of you and your bullyboy friends are the biggest danger to this once proud and mighty country with your mean spirited, racist and angry divicisive views and actions. Anyone frightened of people going to church to praying to their God are going to be prettyj useless if we ever have to defend ourselves against a real invading power. Reed Lover
  • Score: 4

10:47am Sun 3 Aug 14

Reed Lover says...

Mick England wrote:
A phobia is an overwhelming and unreasonable fear of an object or situation that poses little real danger but provokes anxiety and avoidance.
.
I really don't believe that people's fear of islam is "unreasonable" neither do I believe that islam "poses little real danger!" Tell the acid attack victims, the hanging gay people, the jews, the Coptic Christians, the dead westernised muslim girls, Lee Rigby's family, Eugene Armstrongs family etc etc that their concerns on islam are "unreasonable" and that islam "poses little real danger!
Tell that to the thousands in Baghdad killed by the bombs of the Christian alliance of Bush and Blair. Bush was widely quoted as claiming that God told him to invade Iraq, look how that ended up.
[quote][p][bold]Mick England[/bold] wrote: A phobia is an overwhelming and unreasonable fear of an object or situation that poses little real danger but provokes anxiety and avoidance. . I really don't believe that people's fear of islam is "unreasonable" neither do I believe that islam "poses little real danger!" Tell the acid attack victims, the hanging gay people, the jews, the Coptic Christians, the dead westernised muslim girls, Lee Rigby's family, Eugene Armstrongs family etc etc that their concerns on islam are "unreasonable" and that islam "poses little real danger![/p][/quote]Tell that to the thousands in Baghdad killed by the bombs of the Christian alliance of Bush and Blair. Bush was widely quoted as claiming that God told him to invade Iraq, look how that ended up. Reed Lover
  • Score: 6

10:49am Sun 3 Aug 14

Reed Lover says...

Dazivee wrote:
Surprise Surprise, the racist and islamophobia card has been used yet again..............i

slam is not a race!!!! so protest against an archaic ideaology and yes the population of the UK is starting to get a phobia of islam...............

.....we don't like it and don't want any more of it in the UK..................

....Multiculturalism

, ethnic diversity?? How is multiculturalism and ethnic diversity getting on in Saudi, in Iraq, in Iran, in Syria..............o

h yes I forgot, they don't allow it. don't tolerate it and persecute those who do not follow islam!
What has the situation in Saudi, Iraq, Iran and Syria got to do with the freedoms we hold dear in this country?
[quote][p][bold]Dazivee[/bold] wrote: Surprise Surprise, the racist and islamophobia card has been used yet again..............i slam is not a race!!!! so protest against an archaic ideaology and yes the population of the UK is starting to get a phobia of islam............... .....we don't like it and don't want any more of it in the UK.................. ....Multiculturalism , ethnic diversity?? How is multiculturalism and ethnic diversity getting on in Saudi, in Iraq, in Iran, in Syria..............o h yes I forgot, they don't allow it. don't tolerate it and persecute those who do not follow islam![/p][/quote]What has the situation in Saudi, Iraq, Iran and Syria got to do with the freedoms we hold dear in this country? Reed Lover
  • Score: 2

10:56am Sun 3 Aug 14

Tim Burr says...

"What has the situation in Saudi, Iraq, Iran and Syria got to do with the freedoms we hold dear in this country?" None.

The real invaders of this country and others - is the world of high finance and a little research will tell you who is behind it. The ultimate aim is to overthrow Western Civilisation by the destruction of :-
Family
Nation/Race
Religion
Democracy
And it's happening right under your nose - shock of horrors, they're not Muslims behind it.
"What has the situation in Saudi, Iraq, Iran and Syria got to do with the freedoms we hold dear in this country?" None. The real invaders of this country and others - is the world of high finance and a little research will tell you who is behind it. The ultimate aim is to overthrow Western Civilisation by the destruction of :- Family Nation/Race Religion Democracy And it's happening right under your nose - shock of horrors, they're not Muslims behind it. Tim Burr
  • Score: 3

10:58am Sun 3 Aug 14

Reed Lover says...

alfaromeogt wrote:
dameous wrote:
RE Tim Burr

Are you affiliated with the Bolton News? I only ask as I am curious as to why the BN does not approach these events with any degree of impartiality? Before I continue I wish to state that I don't have anything against the mosque being built, although I am an atheist and do have a problem with organised religion in general, as it promotes belief without question, and anything that instructs people not to think and to pass over all control doesn't sit well with me at all. From what I saw today, there were two sides spewing hatred at each other, and both were guilty of overstepping the mark of common decency on occasion, but for some reason the article is biased against only one of the protagonists. While the BN might find the political views of one side unsavoury, surely a fair and even handed account of what happened is more in keeping with the traditions of a local, non politically motivated newspaper, unless of course that isn't the case at all, and the BN has a biased agenda? I would certainly like to believe that isn't the case, but the current state of the UK media doesn't fill me with confidence, as it seems its just a propaganda machine for whatever affiliated party/organisation is paying its wages.

Surely, in this age, we should be breaking away from the shackles of religious ideology and not promoting belief systems that reduce women to second class citizens that are mere property, values that reduce non believers to being unclean or beneath those that believe in a particular faith, and persecute people on their sexual orientation. This goes for all belief systems, not just Islam. We should be building centres that promote true community and understanding, between all people, breaking away from the barriers that divide us, rather than encouraging the means to separate us. We are all human, we all come into this life the same way and we all exit it in the same manner. Instead it seems the political parties of this country are more obsessed with votes, and will pander to any organization that will guarantee these, rather than actually try to sort out the problems of division in our communities. Its just a shame we don't seem to have an unbiased, non-union lead/party affiliated press to actually discuss this, rather than revert to the classic "There is no problem, its just some racists" line that the BN seems to think will solve everything. There should be no political agenda here, there should be no religious agenda, it should be for the good of Bolton as a whole. Sadly, It doesn't seem like that's the case.
Well said. Religion is the root of all evil
Nope. People are the root of all evil.
[quote][p][bold]alfaromeogt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dameous[/bold] wrote: RE Tim Burr Are you affiliated with the Bolton News? I only ask as I am curious as to why the BN does not approach these events with any degree of impartiality? Before I continue I wish to state that I don't have anything against the mosque being built, although I am an atheist and do have a problem with organised religion in general, as it promotes belief without question, and anything that instructs people not to think and to pass over all control doesn't sit well with me at all. From what I saw today, there were two sides spewing hatred at each other, and both were guilty of overstepping the mark of common decency on occasion, but for some reason the article is biased against only one of the protagonists. While the BN might find the political views of one side unsavoury, surely a fair and even handed account of what happened is more in keeping with the traditions of a local, non politically motivated newspaper, unless of course that isn't the case at all, and the BN has a biased agenda? I would certainly like to believe that isn't the case, but the current state of the UK media doesn't fill me with confidence, as it seems its just a propaganda machine for whatever affiliated party/organisation is paying its wages. Surely, in this age, we should be breaking away from the shackles of religious ideology and not promoting belief systems that reduce women to second class citizens that are mere property, values that reduce non believers to being unclean or beneath those that believe in a particular faith, and persecute people on their sexual orientation. This goes for all belief systems, not just Islam. We should be building centres that promote true community and understanding, between all people, breaking away from the barriers that divide us, rather than encouraging the means to separate us. We are all human, we all come into this life the same way and we all exit it in the same manner. Instead it seems the political parties of this country are more obsessed with votes, and will pander to any organization that will guarantee these, rather than actually try to sort out the problems of division in our communities. Its just a shame we don't seem to have an unbiased, non-union lead/party affiliated press to actually discuss this, rather than revert to the classic "There is no problem, its just some racists" line that the BN seems to think will solve everything. There should be no political agenda here, there should be no religious agenda, it should be for the good of Bolton as a whole. Sadly, It doesn't seem like that's the case.[/p][/quote]Well said. Religion is the root of all evil[/p][/quote]Nope. People are the root of all evil. Reed Lover
  • Score: 5

10:59am Sun 3 Aug 14

IvanCamposHair says...

Complete set of idiots these protestors.

Bolton is a community made up of different people and we get on side by side no problem. May be the odd grumble here and there but the majority of Bolton people accept each other and enjoy living here.

These BNP/EDL types just want to stir up hatred.

I didn't know getting p*ssed, dressing in Union Jack clobber, bearing your arse in a coach window, grabbing your tits and threatening to slit people's throats was the British way. Remember that in future.
Complete set of idiots these protestors. Bolton is a community made up of different people and we get on side by side no problem. May be the odd grumble here and there but the majority of Bolton people accept each other and enjoy living here. These BNP/EDL types just want to stir up hatred. I didn't know getting p*ssed, dressing in Union Jack clobber, bearing your arse in a coach window, grabbing your tits and threatening to slit people's throats was the British way. Remember that in future. IvanCamposHair
  • Score: 15

11:02am Sun 3 Aug 14

Phil from Smithills says...

Robert2012 wrote:
Perhaps Hamas should stop launching rockets from schools...and using its own people women and children as a means of protection....that's double standards for you....

I don't give a shiny **** for the Jews or the Arabs....like Ireland....go ahead and kill each other in the name of some mumbo jumbo b$€^^?cks religion......

Idiots killing each other over religion is like a atheist arguing which was the best Harry Potter movie...
Perhaps all these hamas supporters should watch this link...

http://www.israelvid
eonetwork.com/you-wo
nt-believe-what-the-
son-of-hamas-just-sa
id-on-cnn
[quote][p][bold]Robert2012[/bold] wrote: Perhaps Hamas should stop launching rockets from schools...and using its own people women and children as a means of protection....that's double standards for you.... I don't give a shiny **** for the Jews or the Arabs....like Ireland....go ahead and kill each other in the name of some mumbo jumbo b$€^^?cks religion...... Idiots killing each other over religion is like a atheist arguing which was the best Harry Potter movie...[/p][/quote]Perhaps all these hamas supporters should watch this link... http://www.israelvid eonetwork.com/you-wo nt-believe-what-the- son-of-hamas-just-sa id-on-cnn Phil from Smithills
  • Score: -6

11:03am Sun 3 Aug 14

Tim Burr says...

IvanCamposHair wrote:
Complete set of idiots these protestors.

Bolton is a community made up of different people and we get on side by side no problem. May be the odd grumble here and there but the majority of Bolton people accept each other and enjoy living here.

These BNP/EDL types just want to stir up hatred.

I didn't know getting p*ssed, dressing in Union Jack clobber, bearing your arse in a coach window, grabbing your tits and threatening to slit people's throats was the British way. Remember that in future.
That just burst the bubble of a few little ****.
[quote][p][bold]IvanCamposHair[/bold] wrote: Complete set of idiots these protestors. Bolton is a community made up of different people and we get on side by side no problem. May be the odd grumble here and there but the majority of Bolton people accept each other and enjoy living here. These BNP/EDL types just want to stir up hatred. I didn't know getting p*ssed, dressing in Union Jack clobber, bearing your arse in a coach window, grabbing your tits and threatening to slit people's throats was the British way. Remember that in future.[/p][/quote]That just burst the bubble of a few little ****. Tim Burr
  • Score: 11

11:06am Sun 3 Aug 14

Tim Burr says...

Phil from Smithills wrote:
Robert2012 wrote:
Perhaps Hamas should stop launching rockets from schools...and using its own people women and children as a means of protection....that's double standards for you....

I don't give a shiny **** for the Jews or the Arabs....like Ireland....go ahead and kill each other in the name of some mumbo jumbo b$€^^?cks religion......

Idiots killing each other over religion is like a atheist arguing which was the best Harry Potter movie...
Perhaps all these hamas supporters should watch this link...

http://www.israelvid

eonetwork.com/you-wo

nt-believe-what-the-

son-of-hamas-just-sa

id-on-cnn
Yep, lets all watch a video - produced and aired by Zionists that just happens to be about Hamas. Not that I would suggest it's biased in anyway but anybody on twitter, look at #freepalestine for a more accurate, on the ground view.
[quote][p][bold]Phil from Smithills[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Robert2012[/bold] wrote: Perhaps Hamas should stop launching rockets from schools...and using its own people women and children as a means of protection....that's double standards for you.... I don't give a shiny **** for the Jews or the Arabs....like Ireland....go ahead and kill each other in the name of some mumbo jumbo b$€^^?cks religion...... Idiots killing each other over religion is like a atheist arguing which was the best Harry Potter movie...[/p][/quote]Perhaps all these hamas supporters should watch this link... http://www.israelvid eonetwork.com/you-wo nt-believe-what-the- son-of-hamas-just-sa id-on-cnn[/p][/quote]Yep, lets all watch a video - produced and aired by Zionists that just happens to be about Hamas. Not that I would suggest it's biased in anyway but anybody on twitter, look at #freepalestine for a more accurate, on the ground view. Tim Burr
  • Score: 10

11:20am Sun 3 Aug 14

Phil from Smithills says...

It would appear your use of the word " Zionists " is said in an offensive way, just as anyone using the "P" word.
It would appear your use of the word " Zionists " is said in an offensive way, just as anyone using the "P" word. Phil from Smithills
  • Score: 0

11:21am Sun 3 Aug 14

Tim Burr says...

Phil from Smithills wrote:
It would appear your use of the word " Zionists " is said in an offensive way, just as anyone using the "P" word.
Offensive or true?
[quote][p][bold]Phil from Smithills[/bold] wrote: It would appear your use of the word " Zionists " is said in an offensive way, just as anyone using the "P" word.[/p][/quote]Offensive or true? Tim Burr
  • Score: 5

11:27am Sun 3 Aug 14

rostron says...

After watching the live feed, never seen anything so biased in my life.
Careful consideration is on the cards as to stop my delivery of the paper !
After watching the live feed, never seen anything so biased in my life. Careful consideration is on the cards as to stop my delivery of the paper ! rostron
  • Score: 4

11:29am Sun 3 Aug 14

Tim Burr says...

rostron wrote:
After watching the live feed, never seen anything so biased in my life.
Careful consideration is on the cards as to stop my delivery of the paper !
Bye, missing you already. xxx
[quote][p][bold]rostron[/bold] wrote: After watching the live feed, never seen anything so biased in my life. Careful consideration is on the cards as to stop my delivery of the paper ![/p][/quote]Bye, missing you already. xxx Tim Burr
  • Score: -5

11:30am Sun 3 Aug 14

Phil from Smithills says...

In the way in which your phrase it, offensive.

If you haven't watched the video link, then I suggest you do so.
In the way in which your phrase it, offensive. If you haven't watched the video link, then I suggest you do so. Phil from Smithills
  • Score: -2

11:32am Sun 3 Aug 14

Tim Burr says...

Phil from Smithills wrote:
In the way in which your phrase it, offensive.

If you haven't watched the video link, then I suggest you do so.
I've had my fill of Zionist propaganda but thanks for the offer. #freepalestine
[quote][p][bold]Phil from Smithills[/bold] wrote: In the way in which your phrase it, offensive. If you haven't watched the video link, then I suggest you do so.[/p][/quote]I've had my fill of Zionist propaganda but thanks for the offer. #freepalestine Tim Burr
  • Score: 10

11:36am Sun 3 Aug 14

united99 says...

Reed Lover wrote:
Mick England wrote:
The planning committee need to take into account the issue of Islamic doctrine, which is what this site will be used for. That is contrary to incitement law, public order law, hate speech law and equalities law. They can try and ignore that but they can't get away from it, they will one day be held to account for that. This is their legal standing, and they should have the utmost respect for that. They should think long and hard about their responsibilites!
It's a bloody church and a place of teaching. This "doctrine" is based on the Old Testament, they worship the same god as Catholics, Protestants and Jews.
Your objections are so nonsensical that any right thinking person would presume that they are born of racism. And they are.

The mosque is on the site where there is a current mosque and the old electrical shop, both owned by the local community. Why are hundreds of deadlegs arriving from the 4 corners of England if it isn't about racism? There is another mosque around the corner but there's also two DISUSED Christian churches in the same neighbourhood and St Paul's, Holy Infants, and St Peter's a walk away.
The likes of you and your bullyboy friends are the biggest danger to this once proud and mighty country with your mean spirited, racist and angry divicisive views and actions. Anyone frightened of people going to church to praying to their God are going to be prettyj useless if we ever have to defend ourselves against a real invading power.
We'll said - shame the churches are empty.
Growing up in the 70s and 80s you would hear the church bells ringing a few times a week.
[quote][p][bold]Reed Lover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mick England[/bold] wrote: The planning committee need to take into account the issue of Islamic doctrine, which is what this site will be used for. That is contrary to incitement law, public order law, hate speech law and equalities law. They can try and ignore that but they can't get away from it, they will one day be held to account for that. This is their legal standing, and they should have the utmost respect for that. They should think long and hard about their responsibilites![/p][/quote]It's a bloody church and a place of teaching. This "doctrine" is based on the Old Testament, they worship the same god as Catholics, Protestants and Jews. Your objections are so nonsensical that any right thinking person would presume that they are born of racism. And they are. The mosque is on the site where there is a current mosque and the old electrical shop, both owned by the local community. Why are hundreds of deadlegs arriving from the 4 corners of England if it isn't about racism? There is another mosque around the corner but there's also two DISUSED Christian churches in the same neighbourhood and St Paul's, Holy Infants, and St Peter's a walk away. The likes of you and your bullyboy friends are the biggest danger to this once proud and mighty country with your mean spirited, racist and angry divicisive views and actions. Anyone frightened of people going to church to praying to their God are going to be prettyj useless if we ever have to defend ourselves against a real invading power.[/p][/quote]We'll said - shame the churches are empty. Growing up in the 70s and 80s you would hear the church bells ringing a few times a week. united99
  • Score: 5

11:54am Sun 3 Aug 14

Phil from Smithills says...

Tim Burr wrote:
Phil from Smithills wrote:
In the way in which your phrase it, offensive.

If you haven't watched the video link, then I suggest you do so.
I've had my fill of Zionist propaganda but thanks for the offer. #freepalestine
You are missing an opportunity to see what an insider knows about Hamas.

As for the women & children getting killed in the Gaza strip, Hamas should not hide behind them whilst firing rockets etc,.

The video link by a Hamas insider tells hoe it actually is.
[quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Phil from Smithills[/bold] wrote: In the way in which your phrase it, offensive. If you haven't watched the video link, then I suggest you do so.[/p][/quote]I've had my fill of Zionist propaganda but thanks for the offer. #freepalestine[/p][/quote]You are missing an opportunity to see what an insider knows about Hamas. As for the women & children getting killed in the Gaza strip, Hamas should not hide behind them whilst firing rockets etc,. The video link by a Hamas insider tells hoe it actually is. Phil from Smithills
  • Score: -5

12:02pm Sun 3 Aug 14

Tim Burr says...

Phil from Smithills wrote:
Tim Burr wrote:
Phil from Smithills wrote:
In the way in which your phrase it, offensive.

If you haven't watched the video link, then I suggest you do so.
I've had my fill of Zionist propaganda but thanks for the offer. #freepalestine
You are missing an opportunity to see what an insider knows about Hamas.

As for the women & children getting killed in the Gaza strip, Hamas should not hide behind them whilst firing rockets etc,.

The video link by a Hamas insider tells hoe it actually is.
Ah right, so Hamas hide behind women and children, the Zionists are aware of this and do what...shell them. Both of which if true are war crimes but lets forget that that because it's the Palestinian women and childrens fault for being there he wrote as another UN School is bombed.

Speaking of videos "Pro Isreali propaganda caught lying on Youtube about Hamas and human shield."

#freepalestine
[quote][p][bold]Phil from Smithills[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Phil from Smithills[/bold] wrote: In the way in which your phrase it, offensive. If you haven't watched the video link, then I suggest you do so.[/p][/quote]I've had my fill of Zionist propaganda but thanks for the offer. #freepalestine[/p][/quote]You are missing an opportunity to see what an insider knows about Hamas. As for the women & children getting killed in the Gaza strip, Hamas should not hide behind them whilst firing rockets etc,. The video link by a Hamas insider tells hoe it actually is.[/p][/quote]Ah right, so Hamas hide behind women and children, the Zionists are aware of this and do what...shell them. Both of which if true are war crimes but lets forget that that because it's the Palestinian women and childrens fault for being there he wrote as another UN School is bombed. Speaking of videos "Pro Isreali propaganda caught lying on Youtube about Hamas and human shield." #freepalestine Tim Burr
  • Score: 8

12:15pm Sun 3 Aug 14

dameous says...

Ah, racism is perfectly acceptable it seems, as long as its aimed at those of the Jewish faith.
Ah, racism is perfectly acceptable it seems, as long as its aimed at those of the Jewish faith. dameous
  • Score: -3

12:17pm Sun 3 Aug 14

Tim Burr says...

dameous wrote:
Ah, racism is perfectly acceptable it seems, as long as its aimed at those of the Jewish faith.
You're hearing voices again.

Only Israel has right to defend itself - Modern humanity?
[quote][p][bold]dameous[/bold] wrote: Ah, racism is perfectly acceptable it seems, as long as its aimed at those of the Jewish faith.[/p][/quote]You're hearing voices again. Only Israel has right to defend itself - Modern humanity? Tim Burr
  • Score: 4

12:22pm Sun 3 Aug 14

Phil from Smithills says...

Hamas are or seem to be quite content to hide behind women & children, as they know that any incoming Israeli rockets will hit them, and as you do, blame the Israeli's

The tunnels that infiltrate into Israel are used to attack them, that's why they are blowing them up, but Hamas have sited them around peoples homes and are given a warning to leave by the Israelis before they destroy the tunnels.
Hamas are or seem to be quite content to hide behind women & children, as they know that any incoming Israeli rockets will hit them, and as you do, blame the Israeli's The tunnels that infiltrate into Israel are used to attack them, that's why they are blowing them up, but Hamas have sited them around peoples homes and are given a warning to leave by the Israelis before they destroy the tunnels. Phil from Smithills
  • Score: -3

12:28pm Sun 3 Aug 14

dameous says...

There are atrocities taking place on both sides, and its the innocents who suffer. My point was that you have a ulterior motive, an anti-Zionist view point, and its become more pronounced in your latter posts. It seems a little hypocritical.
There are atrocities taking place on both sides, and its the innocents who suffer. My point was that you have a ulterior motive, an anti-Zionist view point, and its become more pronounced in your latter posts. It seems a little hypocritical. dameous
  • Score: 3

12:33pm Sun 3 Aug 14

Tim Burr says...

Phil from Smithills wrote:
Hamas are or seem to be quite content to hide behind women & children, as they know that any incoming Israeli rockets will hit them, and as you do, blame the Israeli's

The tunnels that infiltrate into Israel are used to attack them, that's why they are blowing them up, but Hamas have sited them around peoples homes and are given a warning to leave by the Israelis before they destroy the tunnels.
Coal mine tunnels run under our homes too.

So 'Phil' Israel use rockets? With probably the most sophisticated weapon sites in the world today, the Zionists are reduced to using rockets which they fire into Gaza and then the Gazan people blame them (the Zionists) for firing them - that's what you're saying here?

Do you know how many homes have so far been destroyed 'Phil' how many people displaced?

I wouldn't crow too much about 'hiding' behind civilians, the Zionist occupiers do it all the time.
[quote][p][bold]Phil from Smithills[/bold] wrote: Hamas are or seem to be quite content to hide behind women & children, as they know that any incoming Israeli rockets will hit them, and as you do, blame the Israeli's The tunnels that infiltrate into Israel are used to attack them, that's why they are blowing them up, but Hamas have sited them around peoples homes and are given a warning to leave by the Israelis before they destroy the tunnels.[/p][/quote]Coal mine tunnels run under our homes too. So 'Phil' Israel use rockets? With probably the most sophisticated weapon sites in the world today, the Zionists are reduced to using rockets which they fire into Gaza and then the Gazan people blame them (the Zionists) for firing them - that's what you're saying here? Do you know how many homes have so far been destroyed 'Phil' how many people displaced? I wouldn't crow too much about 'hiding' behind civilians, the Zionist occupiers do it all the time. Tim Burr
  • Score: 11

12:37pm Sun 3 Aug 14

Tim Burr says...

dameous wrote:
There are atrocities taking place on both sides, and its the innocents who suffer. My point was that you have a ulterior motive, an anti-Zionist view point, and its become more pronounced in your latter posts. It seems a little hypocritical.
The Zionists slaughter thousands and I have an ulterior motive? You remind me of a fat moron I read claims his wife is Jewish but is really a catholic to justify his yearning to be in a minority and use it to browbeat people.
[quote][p][bold]dameous[/bold] wrote: There are atrocities taking place on both sides, and its the innocents who suffer. My point was that you have a ulterior motive, an anti-Zionist view point, and its become more pronounced in your latter posts. It seems a little hypocritical.[/p][/quote]The Zionists slaughter thousands and I have an ulterior motive? You remind me of a fat moron I read claims his wife is Jewish but is really a catholic to justify his yearning to be in a minority and use it to browbeat people. Tim Burr
  • Score: 10

12:50pm Sun 3 Aug 14

Janbur says...

renovatedhouserunner wrote:
Bolton against racism? I bet this guy doesn't live in the area.
Why can't they make these mosques look like a building which looks like they fit in? Because they want to takeover the area? Push white working class out? Or perhaps just same reason Muslims have decided they now want to wear a burka, never saw one before 2001, they divide opinion and why do women who wear them still buy make-up and jewellery? It's all about taking control this mosque. That ain't racist, it's the truth.
And I have seen woman who wear burks driving cars,surely they cant see wearing one of those to drive,and I think its dangerous,but it seems the police don't think so
[quote][p][bold]renovatedhouserunner[/bold] wrote: Bolton against racism? I bet this guy doesn't live in the area. Why can't they make these mosques look like a building which looks like they fit in? Because they want to takeover the area? Push white working class out? Or perhaps just same reason Muslims have decided they now want to wear a burka, never saw one before 2001, they divide opinion and why do women who wear them still buy make-up and jewellery? It's all about taking control this mosque. That ain't racist, it's the truth.[/p][/quote]And I have seen woman who wear burks driving cars,surely they cant see wearing one of those to drive,and I think its dangerous,but it seems the police don't think so Janbur
  • Score: -1

12:56pm Sun 3 Aug 14

dameous says...

Wow, resorting to insults just because I pointed out that you have an agenda? I try and see things from the perspective of all sides, that is all. I don't have a faith, I don't need a repressive ideology to live my life by. All I was trying to point out was the apparent double standards in your posts, whereby Its racist to express concerns with the spread of one ideology, but perfectly acceptable to harbour racial hatred for another.
Wow, resorting to insults just because I pointed out that you have an agenda? I try and see things from the perspective of all sides, that is all. I don't have a faith, I don't need a repressive ideology to live my life by. All I was trying to point out was the apparent double standards in your posts, whereby Its racist to express concerns with the spread of one ideology, but perfectly acceptable to harbour racial hatred for another. dameous
  • Score: -4

12:57pm Sun 3 Aug 14

Phil from Smithills says...

Tim Burr wrote:
Phil from Smithills wrote:
Hamas are or seem to be quite content to hide behind women & children, as they know that any incoming Israeli rockets will hit them, and as you do, blame the Israeli's

The tunnels that infiltrate into Israel are used to attack them, that's why they are blowing them up, but Hamas have sited them around peoples homes and are given a warning to leave by the Israelis before they destroy the tunnels.
Coal mine tunnels run under our homes too.

So 'Phil' Israel use rockets? With probably the most sophisticated weapon sites in the world today, the Zionists are reduced to using rockets which they fire into Gaza and then the Gazan people blame them (the Zionists) for firing them - that's what you're saying here?

Do you know how many homes have so far been destroyed 'Phil' how many people displaced?

I wouldn't crow too much about 'hiding' behind civilians, the Zionist occupiers do it all the time.
Coal mines do run under our homes, but they are not used to infiltrate another country and attack and kill people, get your argument into prospective.

The Gazan people should not allow Hamas to site their rockets at Israel, but I suppose threats to them by Hamas cancel that out.

It sickens me to see the destruction of houses, it also sickens me to see the attacks on Israel and the kidnapping and killing of those three Israeli teenagers, then the killing of a young Gazan, which preceded these hostilities

I do try and be even handed with my views, but will not simply listen to all the anti-israeli rhetoric by Hamas and its followers.
[quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Phil from Smithills[/bold] wrote: Hamas are or seem to be quite content to hide behind women & children, as they know that any incoming Israeli rockets will hit them, and as you do, blame the Israeli's The tunnels that infiltrate into Israel are used to attack them, that's why they are blowing them up, but Hamas have sited them around peoples homes and are given a warning to leave by the Israelis before they destroy the tunnels.[/p][/quote]Coal mine tunnels run under our homes too. So 'Phil' Israel use rockets? With probably the most sophisticated weapon sites in the world today, the Zionists are reduced to using rockets which they fire into Gaza and then the Gazan people blame them (the Zionists) for firing them - that's what you're saying here? Do you know how many homes have so far been destroyed 'Phil' how many people displaced? I wouldn't crow too much about 'hiding' behind civilians, the Zionist occupiers do it all the time.[/p][/quote]Coal mines do run under our homes, but they are not used to infiltrate another country and attack and kill people, get your argument into prospective. The Gazan people should not allow Hamas to site their rockets at Israel, but I suppose threats to them by Hamas cancel that out. It sickens me to see the destruction of houses, it also sickens me to see the attacks on Israel and the kidnapping and killing of those three Israeli teenagers, then the killing of a young Gazan, which preceded these hostilities I do try and be even handed with my views, but will not simply listen to all the anti-israeli rhetoric by Hamas and its followers. Phil from Smithills
  • Score: 2

1:01pm Sun 3 Aug 14

Janbur says...

Beyond News Forum wrote:
pradagucci wrote:
Citizen Cane wrote:
pradagucci wrote:
Lynn57 wrote:
There was a march today in London which was not reported by the BBC or the newspapers but it is circulating on Facebook. Muslims have been going around London carrying placards with slogans as follows. "Prepare for a European 9 11" "non Islam people should be beheaded" and other slogans designed to incite racial hatred. The pictures show a policeman standing by doing precisely nothing. This is not our country anymore.
Prove it. Such a protest in 2014 cannot go undetected???????
...do you deny the reported and documented pictures of a young muslim male in London a few weeks ago with a scrawled statement saying "Hitler was right" (targeted at the Jewish community) - racist : yes?

- do you deny the documented increase in hate crimes by young muslim men against Jewish people and synagogues in the UK, including in Manchester?

...neither of these have gone undetected
Do you deny 1650 woman and children killed by Israel? Last week a play area with kids playing got blown and killed 15 kids? With all the technology Israel has you can't say it was an accident, a school got bombed which the UN told Israel it's a school, still they go ahead and kill 35 kids again. Most of Europe call Israel's attack a war crime, why does Britain not invade Israel like they did with afgan and Iraq. Proper double standards.
Nobody here is denying that let alone talking about it... let us save that for the next war... the one that will involve the whole of the Middle East Jihad movements moving in on Israel... but that is the Alternative News grapevine and should not be mention on mainstream news services shhhhhhhh....

Now back to the subject at at hand...

Does anyone have a valid way of fixing this situation we are in?

A minority of Muslims do not wish integration and want Shariah Law... we get that.

A majority of YOUNG British Muslims couldn't give a sh!t and only go to Mosque to appease their parents, they smoke weed, drink alcohol, wear western clothing and are scared shitle$$ of being beatenm or cast out of their families.

I know young Muslim friends who could not give two brass monkey **** if you are gay, black white, pink with purple spots.

I know Muslims who are equally as hateful towards whites and black, green, gay, purple spots because of a more extreme upbringing or because of the differences in our stupid social order of 'I am a better human being than you are' attitudes.

At the end of the day, don't build Mosques, don't build churches and don't build Temples or Synagogues - They all cause trouble and are a sign of social exclusion and a lack of coherence.

WTF? Humans are fecking crazy with their religions and ideologies...

Probably the exact reason humans are seen as unintelligent parasites by those from beyond our planet...
Nearly all the wars are caused by religion that's why I`m an atheist,its so not worth it
[quote][p][bold]Beyond News Forum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pradagucci[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Citizen Cane[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pradagucci[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lynn57[/bold] wrote: There was a march today in London which was not reported by the BBC or the newspapers but it is circulating on Facebook. Muslims have been going around London carrying placards with slogans as follows. "Prepare for a European 9 11" "non Islam people should be beheaded" and other slogans designed to incite racial hatred. The pictures show a policeman standing by doing precisely nothing. This is not our country anymore.[/p][/quote]Prove it. Such a protest in 2014 cannot go undetected???????[/p][/quote]...do you deny the reported and documented pictures of a young muslim male in London a few weeks ago with a scrawled statement saying "Hitler was right" (targeted at the Jewish community) - racist : yes? - do you deny the documented increase in hate crimes by young muslim men against Jewish people and synagogues in the UK, including in Manchester? ...neither of these have gone undetected[/p][/quote]Do you deny 1650 woman and children killed by Israel? Last week a play area with kids playing got blown and killed 15 kids? With all the technology Israel has you can't say it was an accident, a school got bombed which the UN told Israel it's a school, still they go ahead and kill 35 kids again. Most of Europe call Israel's attack a war crime, why does Britain not invade Israel like they did with afgan and Iraq. Proper double standards.[/p][/quote]Nobody here is denying that let alone talking about it... let us save that for the next war... the one that will involve the whole of the Middle East Jihad movements moving in on Israel... but that is the Alternative News grapevine and should not be mention on mainstream news services shhhhhhhh.... Now back to the subject at at hand... Does anyone have a valid way of fixing this situation we are in? A minority of Muslims do not wish integration and want Shariah Law... we get that. A majority of YOUNG British Muslims couldn't give a sh!t and only go to Mosque to appease their parents, they smoke weed, drink alcohol, wear western clothing and are scared shitle$$ of being beatenm or cast out of their families. I know young Muslim friends who could not give two brass monkey **** if you are gay, black white, pink with purple spots. I know Muslims who are equally as hateful towards whites and black, green, gay, purple spots because of a more extreme upbringing or because of the differences in our stupid social order of 'I am a better human being than you are' attitudes. At the end of the day, don't build Mosques, don't build churches and don't build Temples or Synagogues - They all cause trouble and are a sign of social exclusion and a lack of coherence. WTF? Humans are fecking crazy with their religions and ideologies... Probably the exact reason humans are seen as unintelligent parasites by those from beyond our planet...[/p][/quote]Nearly all the wars are caused by religion that's why I`m an atheist,its so not worth it Janbur
  • Score: 0

1:05pm Sun 3 Aug 14

Tim Burr says...

dameous wrote:
Wow, resorting to insults just because I pointed out that you have an agenda? I try and see things from the perspective of all sides, that is all. I don't have a faith, I don't need a repressive ideology to live my life by. All I was trying to point out was the apparent double standards in your posts, whereby Its racist to express concerns with the spread of one ideology, but perfectly acceptable to harbour racial hatred for another.
I'm sure Astley Bridge Police Station has the tea and biscuits ready for your imminent arrival.
[quote][p][bold]dameous[/bold] wrote: Wow, resorting to insults just because I pointed out that you have an agenda? I try and see things from the perspective of all sides, that is all. I don't have a faith, I don't need a repressive ideology to live my life by. All I was trying to point out was the apparent double standards in your posts, whereby Its racist to express concerns with the spread of one ideology, but perfectly acceptable to harbour racial hatred for another.[/p][/quote]I'm sure Astley Bridge Police Station has the tea and biscuits ready for your imminent arrival. Tim Burr
  • Score: 72

1:08pm Sun 3 Aug 14

Tim Burr says...

'Phil' "It sickens me to see the destruction of houses, it also sickens me to see the attacks on Israel and the kidnapping and killing of those three Israeli teenagers, then the killing of a young Gazan, which preceded these hostilities
I do try and be even handed with my views, but will not simply listen to all the anti-israeli rhetoric by Hamas and its followers."

Why do I not believe you? #freepalestine
'Phil' "It sickens me to see the destruction of houses, it also sickens me to see the attacks on Israel and the kidnapping and killing of those three Israeli teenagers, then the killing of a young Gazan, which preceded these hostilities I do try and be even handed with my views, but will not simply listen to all the anti-israeli rhetoric by Hamas and its followers." Why do I not believe you? #freepalestine Tim Burr
  • Score: 24

2:16pm Sun 3 Aug 14

longballs r us says...

Phil from Smithills wrote:
It would appear your use of the word " Zionists " is said in an offensive way, just as anyone using the "P" word.
I would suggest you Google Jeremy Bowen who is BBC Middle East editor and read what he has to say about Hamas using human shields.
Watching CNN , Fox News who is run by Zionist ( not Jews) have a set agenda on how to give news to the masses.
They are known to fire reporters who do not follow the protocol set out to them.
[quote][p][bold]Phil from Smithills[/bold] wrote: It would appear your use of the word " Zionists " is said in an offensive way, just as anyone using the "P" word.[/p][/quote]I would suggest you Google Jeremy Bowen who is BBC Middle East editor and read what he has to say about Hamas using human shields. Watching CNN , Fox News who is run by Zionist ( not Jews) have a set agenda on how to give news to the masses. They are known to fire reporters who do not follow the protocol set out to them. longballs r us
  • Score: 11

2:17pm Sun 3 Aug 14

longballs r us says...

Phil from Smithills wrote:
It would appear your use of the word " Zionists " is said in an offensive way, just as anyone using the "P" word.
I would suggest you Google Jeremy Bowen who is BBC Middle East editor and read what he has to say about Hamas using human shields.
Watching CNN , Fox News who is run by Zionist ( not Jews) have a set agenda on how to give news to the masses.
They are known to fire reporters who do not follow the protocol set out to them.
[quote][p][bold]Phil from Smithills[/bold] wrote: It would appear your use of the word " Zionists " is said in an offensive way, just as anyone using the "P" word.[/p][/quote]I would suggest you Google Jeremy Bowen who is BBC Middle East editor and read what he has to say about Hamas using human shields. Watching CNN , Fox News who is run by Zionist ( not Jews) have a set agenda on how to give news to the masses. They are known to fire reporters who do not follow the protocol set out to them. longballs r us
  • Score: 8

2:43pm Sun 3 Aug 14

Tim Burr says...

longballs r us, put these into Google.

"Debunking Israel's 11 Main Myths About Gaza, Hamas and War Crimes"

"Israeli officer: I was right to shoot 13-year-old child" This is nearly 10 years old - which, though not relevant to today's conflict , how many more have there been? He shot her 17 times and claimed he would have done the same if it was a 3 year old and he got off with it.
longballs r us, put these into Google. "Debunking Israel's 11 Main Myths About Gaza, Hamas and War Crimes" "Israeli officer: I was right to shoot 13-year-old child" This is nearly 10 years old - which, though not relevant to today's conflict , how many more have there been? He shot her 17 times and claimed he would have done the same if it was a 3 year old and he got off with it. Tim Burr
  • Score: 8

2:45pm Sun 3 Aug 14

longballs r us says...

Tim Burr wrote:
longballs r us, put these into Google.

"Debunking Israel's 11 Main Myths About Gaza, Hamas and War Crimes"

"Israeli officer: I was right to shoot 13-year-old child" This is nearly 10 years old - which, though not relevant to today's conflict , how many more have there been? He shot her 17 times and claimed he would have done the same if it was a 3 year old and he got off with it.
I have read that thanks
[quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: longballs r us, put these into Google. "Debunking Israel's 11 Main Myths About Gaza, Hamas and War Crimes" "Israeli officer: I was right to shoot 13-year-old child" This is nearly 10 years old - which, though not relevant to today's conflict , how many more have there been? He shot her 17 times and claimed he would have done the same if it was a 3 year old and he got off with it.[/p][/quote]I have read that thanks longballs r us
  • Score: 8

3:02pm Sun 3 Aug 14

brinhambo says...

Beyond News Forum wrote:
Lynn57 wrote:
There was a march today in London which was not reported by the BBC or the newspapers but it is circulating on Facebook. Muslims have been going around London carrying placards with slogans as follows. "Prepare for a European 9 11" "non Islam people should be beheaded" and other slogans designed to incite racial hatred. The pictures show a policeman standing by doing precisely nothing. This is not our country anymore.
Link please...
should be the other way round
[quote][p][bold]Beyond News Forum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lynn57[/bold] wrote: There was a march today in London which was not reported by the BBC or the newspapers but it is circulating on Facebook. Muslims have been going around London carrying placards with slogans as follows. "Prepare for a European 9 11" "non Islam people should be beheaded" and other slogans designed to incite racial hatred. The pictures show a policeman standing by doing precisely nothing. This is not our country anymore.[/p][/quote]Link please...[/p][/quote]should be the other way round brinhambo
  • Score: -3

3:04pm Sun 3 Aug 14

rostron says...

Tim Burr wrote:
rostron wrote:
After watching the live feed, never seen anything so biased in my life.
Careful consideration is on the cards as to stop my delivery of the paper !
Bye, missing you already. xxx
Obviously manners was not on the agenda when you were growing up !
[quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rostron[/bold] wrote: After watching the live feed, never seen anything so biased in my life. Careful consideration is on the cards as to stop my delivery of the paper ![/p][/quote]Bye, missing you already. xxx[/p][/quote]Obviously manners was not on the agenda when you were growing up ! rostron
  • Score: -1

3:15pm Sun 3 Aug 14

Reed Lover says...

rostron wrote:
Tim Burr wrote:
rostron wrote:
After watching the live feed, never seen anything so biased in my life.
Careful consideration is on the cards as to stop my delivery of the paper !
Bye, missing you already. xxx
Obviously manners was not on the agenda when you were growing up !
Obviously actually growing up was not on the agenda when you were growing up.
[quote][p][bold]rostron[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rostron[/bold] wrote: After watching the live feed, never seen anything so biased in my life. Careful consideration is on the cards as to stop my delivery of the paper ![/p][/quote]Bye, missing you already. xxx[/p][/quote]Obviously manners was not on the agenda when you were growing up ![/p][/quote]Obviously actually growing up was not on the agenda when you were growing up. Reed Lover
  • Score: 4

3:15pm Sun 3 Aug 14

dameous says...

Tim Burr wrote:
dameous wrote:
Wow, resorting to insults just because I pointed out that you have an agenda? I try and see things from the perspective of all sides, that is all. I don't have a faith, I don't need a repressive ideology to live my life by. All I was trying to point out was the apparent double standards in your posts, whereby Its racist to express concerns with the spread of one ideology, but perfectly acceptable to harbour racial hatred for another.
I'm sure Astley Bridge Police Station has the tea and biscuits ready for your imminent arrival.
I was simply pointing out what I perceive to be a flaw in your argument, that is that one form of xenophobia is morally wrong while another is justifiable. I mistakenly presumed you would welcome the debate and explain your views so that I could understand them better. I am sorry for my mistake.
[quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dameous[/bold] wrote: Wow, resorting to insults just because I pointed out that you have an agenda? I try and see things from the perspective of all sides, that is all. I don't have a faith, I don't need a repressive ideology to live my life by. All I was trying to point out was the apparent double standards in your posts, whereby Its racist to express concerns with the spread of one ideology, but perfectly acceptable to harbour racial hatred for another.[/p][/quote]I'm sure Astley Bridge Police Station has the tea and biscuits ready for your imminent arrival.[/p][/quote]I was simply pointing out what I perceive to be a flaw in your argument, that is that one form of xenophobia is morally wrong while another is justifiable. I mistakenly presumed you would welcome the debate and explain your views so that I could understand them better. I am sorry for my mistake. dameous
  • Score: 3

3:23pm Sun 3 Aug 14

Tim Burr says...

dameous wrote:
Tim Burr wrote:
dameous wrote:
Wow, resorting to insults just because I pointed out that you have an agenda? I try and see things from the perspective of all sides, that is all. I don't have a faith, I don't need a repressive ideology to live my life by. All I was trying to point out was the apparent double standards in your posts, whereby Its racist to express concerns with the spread of one ideology, but perfectly acceptable to harbour racial hatred for another.
I'm sure Astley Bridge Police Station has the tea and biscuits ready for your imminent arrival.
I was simply pointing out what I perceive to be a flaw in your argument, that is that one form of xenophobia is morally wrong while another is justifiable. I mistakenly presumed you would welcome the debate and explain your views so that I could understand them better. I am sorry for my mistake.
No flaws - Walsy- Nigel-JT, your perception is wrong., though very funny
as is you using xenophobia without actually understanding what the word means.

Did GMP laugh at you again?
[quote][p][bold]dameous[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dameous[/bold] wrote: Wow, resorting to insults just because I pointed out that you have an agenda? I try and see things from the perspective of all sides, that is all. I don't have a faith, I don't need a repressive ideology to live my life by. All I was trying to point out was the apparent double standards in your posts, whereby Its racist to express concerns with the spread of one ideology, but perfectly acceptable to harbour racial hatred for another.[/p][/quote]I'm sure Astley Bridge Police Station has the tea and biscuits ready for your imminent arrival.[/p][/quote]I was simply pointing out what I perceive to be a flaw in your argument, that is that one form of xenophobia is morally wrong while another is justifiable. I mistakenly presumed you would welcome the debate and explain your views so that I could understand them better. I am sorry for my mistake.[/p][/quote]No flaws - Walsy- Nigel-JT, your perception is wrong., though very funny as is you using xenophobia without actually understanding what the word means. Did GMP laugh at you again? Tim Burr
  • Score: 17

3:27pm Sun 3 Aug 14

longballs r us says...

brinhambo wrote:
Beyond News Forum wrote:
Lynn57 wrote:
There was a march today in London which was not reported by the BBC or the newspapers but it is circulating on Facebook. Muslims have been going around London carrying placards with slogans as follows. "Prepare for a European 9 11" "non Islam people should be beheaded" and other slogans designed to incite racial hatred. The pictures show a policeman standing by doing precisely nothing. This is not our country anymore.
Link please...
should be the other way round
On Facebook the numbers circulated was 20000 against the mosque protest. It was quoted by the organisers that it was really pleasing to see so many people come from the four corners of the UK. Unfortunately our esteemed leader was overwhelmed and could not make a speech.
The moslamics were so rude they did not offer us any tea nor any samosas and onion bhajis.
[quote][p][bold]brinhambo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Beyond News Forum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lynn57[/bold] wrote: There was a march today in London which was not reported by the BBC or the newspapers but it is circulating on Facebook. Muslims have been going around London carrying placards with slogans as follows. "Prepare for a European 9 11" "non Islam people should be beheaded" and other slogans designed to incite racial hatred. The pictures show a policeman standing by doing precisely nothing. This is not our country anymore.[/p][/quote]Link please...[/p][/quote]should be the other way round[/p][/quote]On Facebook the numbers circulated was 20000 against the mosque protest. It was quoted by the organisers that it was really pleasing to see so many people come from the four corners of the UK. Unfortunately our esteemed leader was overwhelmed and could not make a speech. The moslamics were so rude they did not offer us any tea nor any samosas and onion bhajis. longballs r us
  • Score: 21

3:28pm Sun 3 Aug 14

Tim Burr says...

Good to see the financial boycott of Israel is gathering pace.
Good to see the financial boycott of Israel is gathering pace. Tim Burr
  • Score: 20

3:32pm Sun 3 Aug 14

dameous says...

I think you are missing my point. I don't see how hate can ever be a means to an end. I agree that the tactics used by Israel are wrong, and I want a free Palestine, but I think we differ on our opinions of how to achieve this.
I think you are missing my point. I don't see how hate can ever be a means to an end. I agree that the tactics used by Israel are wrong, and I want a free Palestine, but I think we differ on our opinions of how to achieve this. dameous
  • Score: 1

3:35pm Sun 3 Aug 14

Tim Burr says...

dameous wrote:
I think you are missing my point. I don't see how hate can ever be a means to an end. I agree that the tactics used by Israel are wrong, and I want a free Palestine, but I think we differ on our opinions of how to achieve this.
Of course you do.
[quote][p][bold]dameous[/bold] wrote: I think you are missing my point. I don't see how hate can ever be a means to an end. I agree that the tactics used by Israel are wrong, and I want a free Palestine, but I think we differ on our opinions of how to achieve this.[/p][/quote]Of course you do. Tim Burr
  • Score: 9

3:42pm Sun 3 Aug 14

dameous says...

I give up my friend, even when I try to reach out on the issues we agree on you simply reduce the argument to silliness. I cant beat you with stupidity, as you clearly have it in a greater abundance.
I give up my friend, even when I try to reach out on the issues we agree on you simply reduce the argument to silliness. I cant beat you with stupidity, as you clearly have it in a greater abundance. dameous
  • Score: 2

3:50pm Sun 3 Aug 14

Tim Burr says...

dameous wrote:
I give up my friend, even when I try to reach out on the issues we agree on you simply reduce the argument to silliness. I cant beat you with stupidity, as you clearly have it in a greater abundance.
Breightmet's missing its idiot.
[quote][p][bold]dameous[/bold] wrote: I give up my friend, even when I try to reach out on the issues we agree on you simply reduce the argument to silliness. I cant beat you with stupidity, as you clearly have it in a greater abundance.[/p][/quote]Breightmet's missing its idiot. Tim Burr
  • Score: 4

4:41pm Sun 3 Aug 14

pradagucci says...

DAUBHILLISRUINED wrote:
Janbur says...
And I have seen woman who wear burks driving cars,surely they cant see wearing one of those to drive,and I think its dangerous,but it seems the police don't think so.

And going into a bank, etc,etc.
It's like us going in there with a crash helmet on ?
It's one rule for them and another for us and will only get worse.
They should never have been let in uncontrolled for 40 years and still at it, the country is ruined and will never recover
Thankfully the only certainty in life is death..so i'll not see them anymore... :-)
Any accidents reported???? NO. Drink driving ????? Thousands. Let's ban alchohol then it causes loads of problems, domestic abuse, debt and drink driving kills.
[quote][p][bold]DAUBHILLISRUINED[/bold] wrote: Janbur says... And I have seen woman who wear burks driving cars,surely they cant see wearing one of those to drive,and I think its dangerous,but it seems the police don't think so. And going into a bank, etc,etc. It's like us going in there with a crash helmet on ? It's one rule for them and another for us and will only get worse. They should never have been let in uncontrolled for 40 years and still at it, the country is ruined and will never recover Thankfully the only certainty in life is death..so i'll not see them anymore... :-)[/p][/quote]Any accidents reported???? NO. Drink driving ????? Thousands. Let's ban alchohol then it causes loads of problems, domestic abuse, debt and drink driving kills. pradagucci
  • Score: 0

4:51pm Sun 3 Aug 14

pradagucci says...

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  • Score: 2

4:54pm Sun 3 Aug 14

Phil from Smithills says...

Tim Burr wrote:
'Phil' "It sickens me to see the destruction of houses, it also sickens me to see the attacks on Israel and the kidnapping and killing of those three Israeli teenagers, then the killing of a young Gazan, which preceded these hostilities
I do try and be even handed with my views, but will not simply listen to all the anti-israeli rhetoric by Hamas and its followers."

Why do I not believe you? #freepalestine
Because you choose to be ant-semitic and follow a narrow minded view of another religion which you seem to despise.
[quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: 'Phil' "It sickens me to see the destruction of houses, it also sickens me to see the attacks on Israel and the kidnapping and killing of those three Israeli teenagers, then the killing of a young Gazan, which preceded these hostilities I do try and be even handed with my views, but will not simply listen to all the anti-israeli rhetoric by Hamas and its followers." Why do I not believe you? #freepalestine[/p][/quote]Because you choose to be ant-semitic and follow a narrow minded view of another religion which you seem to despise. Phil from Smithills
  • Score: -3

5:10pm Sun 3 Aug 14

boltonfree says...

Robert2012 what about the gangs of white men who use and abuse children. It seems your argument is only Asian men commit crimes when I bet the prison system has more white people in them than Asians. You seem to be only able to put every Asian down as a peodo as if that's the case then all white people must be murders, rapists, thieves etc so you must belong to one of those groups according to your logic and I use the word logic lightly. I presume most people have been in a mosque and heard all this so called anti west nonsense some of you seem to going on about. Also the arranged marriages, burka etc is cultural not religious.
Robert2012 what about the gangs of white men who use and abuse children. It seems your argument is only Asian men commit crimes when I bet the prison system has more white people in them than Asians. You seem to be only able to put every Asian down as a peodo as if that's the case then all white people must be murders, rapists, thieves etc so you must belong to one of those groups according to your logic and I use the word logic lightly. I presume most people have been in a mosque and heard all this so called anti west nonsense some of you seem to going on about. Also the arranged marriages, burka etc is cultural not religious. boltonfree
  • Score: -1

5:54pm Sun 3 Aug 14

Robert2012 says...

boltonfree wrote:
Robert2012 what about the gangs of white men who use and abuse children. It seems your argument is only Asian men commit crimes when I bet the prison system has more white people in them than Asians. You seem to be only able to put every Asian down as a peodo as if that's the case then all white people must be murders, rapists, thieves etc so you must belong to one of those groups according to your logic and I use the word logic lightly. I presume most people have been in a mosque and heard all this so called anti west nonsense some of you seem to going on about. Also the arranged marriages, burka etc is cultural not religious.
Not at all.....

I was highlighting to the clown above who stated that there was no evidence of Muslim peadophiles gangs.....

with regards to your last paragraph if you thing it is acceptable for a culture to accept that a grown man can marry a child....then you are are sick
[quote][p][bold]boltonfree[/bold] wrote: Robert2012 what about the gangs of white men who use and abuse children. It seems your argument is only Asian men commit crimes when I bet the prison system has more white people in them than Asians. You seem to be only able to put every Asian down as a peodo as if that's the case then all white people must be murders, rapists, thieves etc so you must belong to one of those groups according to your logic and I use the word logic lightly. I presume most people have been in a mosque and heard all this so called anti west nonsense some of you seem to going on about. Also the arranged marriages, burka etc is cultural not religious.[/p][/quote]Not at all..... I was highlighting to the clown above who stated that there was no evidence of Muslim peadophiles gangs..... with regards to your last paragraph if you thing it is acceptable for a culture to accept that a grown man can marry a child....then you are are sick Robert2012
  • Score: 2

7:00pm Sun 3 Aug 14

boltonfree says...

I don't think it is acceptable a grown man marrying a child I never said it was I was pointing out that it is not Islam but it is cultural. The men that marry a child should face the law and be held to account but that is for the police to deal with so if you know of any then I suggest report it. Again it seems people seem to tar everyone with the same brush yes Asian people have caused accidents in cars but so have alot of white people you probably can scour the Internet looking at local news stories and see young white people speeding, drink driving, using a phone while driving and causing accidents.
I don't think it is acceptable a grown man marrying a child I never said it was I was pointing out that it is not Islam but it is cultural. The men that marry a child should face the law and be held to account but that is for the police to deal with so if you know of any then I suggest report it. Again it seems people seem to tar everyone with the same brush yes Asian people have caused accidents in cars but so have alot of white people you probably can scour the Internet looking at local news stories and see young white people speeding, drink driving, using a phone while driving and causing accidents. boltonfree
  • Score: 1

8:24pm Sun 3 Aug 14

albertmodley says...

Do muslim girls ever marry non muslim males, thus proving they genuinely do want integration, bearing mixed race children and partaking in a genuine mixed race multi cultural society or do they or their parents more particularly want to maintain their perceived supper race pure muslim blood status?
Do muslim girls ever marry non muslim males, thus proving they genuinely do want integration, bearing mixed race children and partaking in a genuine mixed race multi cultural society or do they or their parents more particularly want to maintain their perceived supper race pure muslim blood status? albertmodley
  • Score: 0

8:29pm Sun 3 Aug 14

mililly says...

This whole country is going down the pan...bolton is a terrible place at the minute I never go into town shopping or otherwise as its like a foreign country..so many foreigners. We are supposed to be a tollerant country but when we see them slowly taking over our towns its not very good..lets alll go to a muslim country and open a few churches and wear shorts and tshirts..see how long it takes to get stoned...they want their own way in their own country and ours..always ...infringes the human rights card played..pigs me off
This whole country is going down the pan...bolton is a terrible place at the minute I never go into town shopping or otherwise as its like a foreign country..so many foreigners. We are supposed to be a tollerant country but when we see them slowly taking over our towns its not very good..lets alll go to a muslim country and open a few churches and wear shorts and tshirts..see how long it takes to get stoned...they want their own way in their own country and ours..always ...infringes the human rights card played..pigs me off mililly
  • Score: 2

9:03pm Sun 3 Aug 14

bolton12 says...

Tim Burr wrote:
bolton12 wrote:
Tim Burr wrote:
Posted by another crackpot group British Patriots Society II, bolton12
No Tim Burr, posted by a concerned resident from Astley Bridge with a photo of the lady at the protest.
Posted by British Patriots Society II - who are ex UKIP booted for racism and EDL affiliations.

Hmm, the next question is, why on earth would you take granny along to a demo attended by foul mouthed morons.
Because Tim Burr that lady wanted to show her support in opposing another mosque, which lots of other people oppose but won't show up because they are frightened of being branded racist.
[quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bolton12[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: Posted by another crackpot group British Patriots Society II, bolton12[/p][/quote]No Tim Burr, posted by a concerned resident from Astley Bridge with a photo of the lady at the protest.[/p][/quote]Posted by British Patriots Society II - who are ex UKIP booted for racism and EDL affiliations. Hmm, the next question is, why on earth would you take granny along to a demo attended by foul mouthed morons.[/p][/quote]Because Tim Burr that lady wanted to show her support in opposing another mosque, which lots of other people oppose but won't show up because they are frightened of being branded racist. bolton12
  • Score: 0

9:17pm Sun 3 Aug 14

bolton12 says...

StopwiththeBS wrote:
bolton12 wrote:
This was posted on facebook earlier with a lovely photo - why hasn't Bolton News put photo's and reports like this on:

My 79yr old mum today at the Super Mosque protest in Bolton today
My sister was also there, this is what she has to say about today's events ~{Sara}
I am a Boltonian, I'm 60yrs old and my mum's 79yrs old and we were there as well as many ... See More
Photo: My 79yr old mum today at the Super Mosque protest in Bolton today :)
My sister was also there, this is what she has to say about today's events ~{Sara}
I am a Boltonian, I'm 60yrs old and my mum's 79yrs old and we were there as well as many other elderly women and men. We are just ordinary Bolton people who joined this protest to demonstrate our opinions, which are; there are already far too many mosques in Bolton and a Super Mosque is most definitely not needed, especially on Blackburn Road.
On the coach on the way to the protest Muslim women were stood in their doorways giving us the fingers and when we got there, there were no Muslim women to be seen at all, only Muslim men. There was also some white hippy looking type people with the Muslim counter protesters who were giving us the fingers, especially the women!
I am absolutely disgusted by the biased and down right incorrect reporting of the Bolton News about today's events. There were more protesters than counter protesters, we out numbered them by far. The only fireworks that were set off was by the Muslims and were thrown into our section of the protesters. They were abusive, violent, and taunting us all. The Muslim counter protesters also burned an English flag. Although some protesters rose to the taunting, the majority of Boltonians that were there; men, women, old and young alike were peaceful.
As we sat on the coach waiting to go, one side of the coach was facing the Muslim counter protesters and they became very abusive and lewd, they started sticking their tongues out at us and licking their lips, playing with their nipples and rubbing their crotch's and one man actually exposed himself to us.
This is the truth and what really happened. Please share this so people know what is being written in the Bolton News is wrong!
Thank-You.
Because It comes from a known liar, Sara Roocroft, who is renowned for making things up and is leader of the British Patriots Society. If you visit the facebook page you can see the several edits it went through before getting in the state it is in in the above quote. This includes adding an extra 73 words over the course of a few hours and changing a number of the 'facts'.

Basically. They don;t print ****.

Which is sort of why you lot are so upset.
It doesn't mean it's lies as this was confirmed by others on the bus. Some things just won't be believed because they can do no wrong. There are some idiots on BOTH sides - hence the word BOTH!
[quote][p][bold]StopwiththeBS[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bolton12[/bold] wrote: This was posted on facebook earlier with a lovely photo - why hasn't Bolton News put photo's and reports like this on: My 79yr old mum today at the Super Mosque protest in Bolton today My sister was also there, this is what she has to say about today's events ~{Sara} I am a Boltonian, I'm 60yrs old and my mum's 79yrs old and we were there as well as many ... See More Photo: My 79yr old mum today at the Super Mosque protest in Bolton today :) My sister was also there, this is what she has to say about today's events ~{Sara} I am a Boltonian, I'm 60yrs old and my mum's 79yrs old and we were there as well as many other elderly women and men. We are just ordinary Bolton people who joined this protest to demonstrate our opinions, which are; there are already far too many mosques in Bolton and a Super Mosque is most definitely not needed, especially on Blackburn Road. On the coach on the way to the protest Muslim women were stood in their doorways giving us the fingers and when we got there, there were no Muslim women to be seen at all, only Muslim men. There was also some white hippy looking type people with the Muslim counter protesters who were giving us the fingers, especially the women! I am absolutely disgusted by the biased and down right incorrect reporting of the Bolton News about today's events. There were more protesters than counter protesters, we out numbered them by far. The only fireworks that were set off was by the Muslims and were thrown into our section of the protesters. They were abusive, violent, and taunting us all. The Muslim counter protesters also burned an English flag. Although some protesters rose to the taunting, the majority of Boltonians that were there; men, women, old and young alike were peaceful. As we sat on the coach waiting to go, one side of the coach was facing the Muslim counter protesters and they became very abusive and lewd, they started sticking their tongues out at us and licking their lips, playing with their nipples and rubbing their crotch's and one man actually exposed himself to us. This is the truth and what really happened. Please share this so people know what is being written in the Bolton News is wrong! Thank-You.[/p][/quote]Because It comes from a known liar, Sara Roocroft, who is renowned for making things up and is leader of the British Patriots Society. If you visit the facebook page you can see the several edits it went through before getting in the state it is in in the above quote. This includes adding an extra 73 words over the course of a few hours and changing a number of the 'facts'. Basically. They don;t print ****. Which is sort of why you lot are so upset.[/p][/quote]It doesn't mean it's lies as this was confirmed by others on the bus. Some things just won't be believed because they can do no wrong. There are some idiots on BOTH sides - hence the word BOTH! bolton12
  • Score: 0

9:17pm Sun 3 Aug 14

Enemy of The State..... says...

I bet if everyone changed they status name and put they real Name half off the bull*hit written on this won't even be onit. And not only this. Everything you read on comments it's simply a WAR agaisnst ISLAM ! eg, oh sum1's had a car crash example, Oh I bet it sum Muslims , everything is Muslims. But notice one thing " who makes curries, kebabs etc.... MUSLIMS ! So ifu hate Muslims. Why eat there food ! You whites are just. Joke man !


And to Bolton news I'll be speaking to them cause if this carries on and sum idiot ****'s out with sum serious crap. I can only see a massive kik off ! And by the way Bolton news is crap anyway.
I bet if everyone changed they status name and put they real Name half off the bull*hit written on this won't even be onit. And not only this. Everything you read on comments it's simply a WAR agaisnst ISLAM ! eg, oh sum1's had a car crash example, Oh I bet it sum Muslims , everything is Muslims. But notice one thing " who makes curries, kebabs etc.... MUSLIMS ! So ifu hate Muslims. Why eat there food ! You whites are just. Joke man ! And to Bolton news I'll be speaking to them cause if this carries on and sum idiot ****'s out with sum serious crap. I can only see a massive kik off ! And by the way Bolton news is crap anyway. Enemy of The State.....
  • Score: 1

9:32pm Sun 3 Aug 14

united99 says...

mililly wrote:
This whole country is going down the pan...bolton is a terrible place at the minute I never go into town shopping or otherwise as its like a foreign country..so many foreigners. We are supposed to be a tollerant country but when we see them slowly taking over our towns its not very good..lets alll go to a muslim country and open a few churches and wear shorts and tshirts..see how long it takes to get stoned...they want their own way in their own country and ours..always ...infringes the human rights card played..pigs me off
You'll be better treated and respected milly.
There are churches in Muslim countries ie Pakistan in Karachi of all places and Christians do go with out any problems.
[quote][p][bold]mililly[/bold] wrote: This whole country is going down the pan...bolton is a terrible place at the minute I never go into town shopping or otherwise as its like a foreign country..so many foreigners. We are supposed to be a tollerant country but when we see them slowly taking over our towns its not very good..lets alll go to a muslim country and open a few churches and wear shorts and tshirts..see how long it takes to get stoned...they want their own way in their own country and ours..always ...infringes the human rights card played..pigs me off[/p][/quote]You'll be better treated and respected milly. There are churches in Muslim countries ie Pakistan in Karachi of all places and Christians do go with out any problems. united99
  • Score: 0

9:38pm Sun 3 Aug 14

Tim Burr says...

Phil from Smithills wrote:
Tim Burr wrote:
'Phil' "It sickens me to see the destruction of houses, it also sickens me to see the attacks on Israel and the kidnapping and killing of those three Israeli teenagers, then the killing of a young Gazan, which preceded these hostilities
I do try and be even handed with my views, but will not simply listen to all the anti-israeli rhetoric by Hamas and its followers."

Why do I not believe you? #freepalestine
Because you choose to be ant-semitic and follow a narrow minded view of another religion which you seem to despise.
Anti-septic more like 'Phil'.
[quote][p][bold]Phil from Smithills[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: 'Phil' "It sickens me to see the destruction of houses, it also sickens me to see the attacks on Israel and the kidnapping and killing of those three Israeli teenagers, then the killing of a young Gazan, which preceded these hostilities I do try and be even handed with my views, but will not simply listen to all the anti-israeli rhetoric by Hamas and its followers." Why do I not believe you? #freepalestine[/p][/quote]Because you choose to be ant-semitic and follow a narrow minded view of another religion which you seem to despise.[/p][/quote]Anti-septic more like 'Phil'. Tim Burr
  • Score: 1

9:41pm Sun 3 Aug 14

Tim Burr says...

bolton12 wrote:
Tim Burr wrote:
bolton12 wrote:
Tim Burr wrote:
Posted by another crackpot group British Patriots Society II, bolton12
No Tim Burr, posted by a concerned resident from Astley Bridge with a photo of the lady at the protest.
Posted by British Patriots Society II - who are ex UKIP booted for racism and EDL affiliations.

Hmm, the next question is, why on earth would you take granny along to a demo attended by foul mouthed morons.
Because Tim Burr that lady wanted to show her support in opposing another mosque, which lots of other people oppose but won't show up because they are frightened of being branded racist.
Except for one fact - that fact being it's not another Mosque.

Don't let truth stand in the way of yours and Granny's bigotry.
[quote][p][bold]bolton12[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bolton12[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: Posted by another crackpot group British Patriots Society II, bolton12[/p][/quote]No Tim Burr, posted by a concerned resident from Astley Bridge with a photo of the lady at the protest.[/p][/quote]Posted by British Patriots Society II - who are ex UKIP booted for racism and EDL affiliations. Hmm, the next question is, why on earth would you take granny along to a demo attended by foul mouthed morons.[/p][/quote]Because Tim Burr that lady wanted to show her support in opposing another mosque, which lots of other people oppose but won't show up because they are frightened of being branded racist.[/p][/quote]Except for one fact - that fact being it's not another Mosque. Don't let truth stand in the way of yours and Granny's bigotry. Tim Burr
  • Score: 0

10:35pm Sun 3 Aug 14

bolton12 says...

Tim Burr wrote:
bolton12 wrote:
Tim Burr wrote:
bolton12 wrote:
Tim Burr wrote:
Posted by another crackpot group British Patriots Society II, bolton12
No Tim Burr, posted by a concerned resident from Astley Bridge with a photo of the lady at the protest.
Posted by British Patriots Society II - who are ex UKIP booted for racism and EDL affiliations.

Hmm, the next question is, why on earth would you take granny along to a demo attended by foul mouthed morons.
Because Tim Burr that lady wanted to show her support in opposing another mosque, which lots of other people oppose but won't show up because they are frightened of being branded racist.
Except for one fact - that fact being it's not another Mosque.

Don't let truth stand in the way of yours and Granny's bigotry.
I think you are quite an offensive person Tim and have nothing better to do but comment to everyone on here all day long. You must have a very boring life. No it's not another mosque just a huge extension of the existing one which will cause numerous traffic problems and look extremely out of place on Blackburn Road. It will not unite the community of Astley Bridge but divide it as it already is. As for a bigot, I am anything but - so button it, get a life, go to the pub and have a drink, it seems like you need one to loosen up.
[quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bolton12[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bolton12[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: Posted by another crackpot group British Patriots Society II, bolton12[/p][/quote]No Tim Burr, posted by a concerned resident from Astley Bridge with a photo of the lady at the protest.[/p][/quote]Posted by British Patriots Society II - who are ex UKIP booted for racism and EDL affiliations. Hmm, the next question is, why on earth would you take granny along to a demo attended by foul mouthed morons.[/p][/quote]Because Tim Burr that lady wanted to show her support in opposing another mosque, which lots of other people oppose but won't show up because they are frightened of being branded racist.[/p][/quote]Except for one fact - that fact being it's not another Mosque. Don't let truth stand in the way of yours and Granny's bigotry.[/p][/quote]I think you are quite an offensive person Tim and have nothing better to do but comment to everyone on here all day long. You must have a very boring life. No it's not another mosque just a huge extension of the existing one which will cause numerous traffic problems and look extremely out of place on Blackburn Road. It will not unite the community of Astley Bridge but divide it as it already is. As for a bigot, I am anything but - so button it, get a life, go to the pub and have a drink, it seems like you need one to loosen up. bolton12
  • Score: 8

10:37pm Sun 3 Aug 14

bolton12 says...

united99 wrote:
mililly wrote:
This whole country is going down the pan...bolton is a terrible place at the minute I never go into town shopping or otherwise as its like a foreign country..so many foreigners. We are supposed to be a tollerant country but when we see them slowly taking over our towns its not very good..lets alll go to a muslim country and open a few churches and wear shorts and tshirts..see how long it takes to get stoned...they want their own way in their own country and ours..always ...infringes the human rights card played..pigs me off
You'll be better treated and respected milly.
There are churches in Muslim countries ie Pakistan in Karachi of all places and Christians do go with out any problems.
How many churches are there in that one area? Not as many as there are mosques?
[quote][p][bold]united99[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mililly[/bold] wrote: This whole country is going down the pan...bolton is a terrible place at the minute I never go into town shopping or otherwise as its like a foreign country..so many foreigners. We are supposed to be a tollerant country but when we see them slowly taking over our towns its not very good..lets alll go to a muslim country and open a few churches and wear shorts and tshirts..see how long it takes to get stoned...they want their own way in their own country and ours..always ...infringes the human rights card played..pigs me off[/p][/quote]You'll be better treated and respected milly. There are churches in Muslim countries ie Pakistan in Karachi of all places and Christians do go with out any problems.[/p][/quote]How many churches are there in that one area? Not as many as there are mosques? bolton12
  • Score: -1

10:39pm Sun 3 Aug 14

Tim Burr says...

bolton12 wrote:
Tim Burr wrote:
bolton12 wrote:
Tim Burr wrote:
bolton12 wrote:
Tim Burr wrote:
Posted by another crackpot group British Patriots Society II, bolton12
No Tim Burr, posted by a concerned resident from Astley Bridge with a photo of the lady at the protest.
Posted by British Patriots Society II - who are ex UKIP booted for racism and EDL affiliations.

Hmm, the next question is, why on earth would you take granny along to a demo attended by foul mouthed morons.
Because Tim Burr that lady wanted to show her support in opposing another mosque, which lots of other people oppose but won't show up because they are frightened of being branded racist.
Except for one fact - that fact being it's not another Mosque.

Don't let truth stand in the way of yours and Granny's bigotry.
I think you are quite an offensive person Tim and have nothing better to do but comment to everyone on here all day long. You must have a very boring life. No it's not another mosque just a huge extension of the existing one which will cause numerous traffic problems and look extremely out of place on Blackburn Road. It will not unite the community of Astley Bridge but divide it as it already is. As for a bigot, I am anything but - so button it, get a life, go to the pub and have a drink, it seems like you need one to loosen up.
It's not in Astley Bridge you moron.
[quote][p][bold]bolton12[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bolton12[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bolton12[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: Posted by another crackpot group British Patriots Society II, bolton12[/p][/quote]No Tim Burr, posted by a concerned resident from Astley Bridge with a photo of the lady at the protest.[/p][/quote]Posted by British Patriots Society II - who are ex UKIP booted for racism and EDL affiliations. Hmm, the next question is, why on earth would you take granny along to a demo attended by foul mouthed morons.[/p][/quote]Because Tim Burr that lady wanted to show her support in opposing another mosque, which lots of other people oppose but won't show up because they are frightened of being branded racist.[/p][/quote]Except for one fact - that fact being it's not another Mosque. Don't let truth stand in the way of yours and Granny's bigotry.[/p][/quote]I think you are quite an offensive person Tim and have nothing better to do but comment to everyone on here all day long. You must have a very boring life. No it's not another mosque just a huge extension of the existing one which will cause numerous traffic problems and look extremely out of place on Blackburn Road. It will not unite the community of Astley Bridge but divide it as it already is. As for a bigot, I am anything but - so button it, get a life, go to the pub and have a drink, it seems like you need one to loosen up.[/p][/quote]It's not in Astley Bridge you moron. Tim Burr
  • Score: 1

10:40pm Sun 3 Aug 14

Tim Burr says...

DAUBHILLISRUINED wrote:
bolton12 wrote:
Tim Burr wrote:
bolton12 wrote:
Tim Burr wrote:
bolton12 wrote:
Tim Burr wrote:
Posted by another crackpot group British Patriots Society II, bolton12
No Tim Burr, posted by a concerned resident from Astley Bridge with a photo of the lady at the protest.
Posted by British Patriots Society II - who are ex UKIP booted for racism and EDL affiliations.

Hmm, the next question is, why on earth would you take granny along to a demo attended by foul mouthed morons.
Because Tim Burr that lady wanted to show her support in opposing another mosque, which lots of other people oppose but won't show up because they are frightened of being branded racist.
Except for one fact - that fact being it's not another Mosque.

Don't let truth stand in the way of yours and Granny's bigotry.
I think you are quite an offensive person Tim and have nothing better to do but comment to everyone on here all day long. You must have a very boring life. No it's not another mosque just a huge extension of the existing one which will cause numerous traffic problems and look extremely out of place on Blackburn Road. It will not unite the community of Astley Bridge but divide it as it already is. As for a bigot, I am anything but - so button it, get a life, go to the pub and have a drink, it seems like you need one to loosen up.
I said he was a c--t further up the page :-)
Did Uncle Tony ever get Rocky back?
[quote][p][bold]DAUBHILLISRUINED[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bolton12[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bolton12[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bolton12[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: Posted by another crackpot group British Patriots Society II, bolton12[/p][/quote]No Tim Burr, posted by a concerned resident from Astley Bridge with a photo of the lady at the protest.[/p][/quote]Posted by British Patriots Society II - who are ex UKIP booted for racism and EDL affiliations. Hmm, the next question is, why on earth would you take granny along to a demo attended by foul mouthed morons.[/p][/quote]Because Tim Burr that lady wanted to show her support in opposing another mosque, which lots of other people oppose but won't show up because they are frightened of being branded racist.[/p][/quote]Except for one fact - that fact being it's not another Mosque. Don't let truth stand in the way of yours and Granny's bigotry.[/p][/quote]I think you are quite an offensive person Tim and have nothing better to do but comment to everyone on here all day long. You must have a very boring life. No it's not another mosque just a huge extension of the existing one which will cause numerous traffic problems and look extremely out of place on Blackburn Road. It will not unite the community of Astley Bridge but divide it as it already is. As for a bigot, I am anything but - so button it, get a life, go to the pub and have a drink, it seems like you need one to loosen up.[/p][/quote]I said he was a c--t further up the page :-)[/p][/quote]Did Uncle Tony ever get Rocky back? Tim Burr
  • Score: 3

10:41pm Sun 3 Aug 14

Dirty Hamed says...

Tim Burr wrote:
bolton12 wrote:
Tim Burr wrote:
bolton12 wrote:
Tim Burr wrote:
Posted by another crackpot group British Patriots Society II, bolton12
No Tim Burr, posted by a concerned resident from Astley Bridge with a photo of the lady at the protest.
Posted by British Patriots Society II - who are ex UKIP booted for racism and EDL affiliations.

Hmm, the next question is, why on earth would you take granny along to a demo attended by foul mouthed morons.
Because Tim Burr that lady wanted to show her support in opposing another mosque, which lots of other people oppose but won't show up because they are frightened of being branded racist.
Except for one fact - that fact being it's not another Mosque.

Don't let truth stand in the way of yours and Granny's bigotry.
You've been on here all weekend whatever your real name is ! do you not have a social life or is this IT ?
[quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bolton12[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bolton12[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: Posted by another crackpot group British Patriots Society II, bolton12[/p][/quote]No Tim Burr, posted by a concerned resident from Astley Bridge with a photo of the lady at the protest.[/p][/quote]Posted by British Patriots Society II - who are ex UKIP booted for racism and EDL affiliations. Hmm, the next question is, why on earth would you take granny along to a demo attended by foul mouthed morons.[/p][/quote]Because Tim Burr that lady wanted to show her support in opposing another mosque, which lots of other people oppose but won't show up because they are frightened of being branded racist.[/p][/quote]Except for one fact - that fact being it's not another Mosque. Don't let truth stand in the way of yours and Granny's bigotry.[/p][/quote]You've been on here all weekend whatever your real name is ! do you not have a social life or is this IT ? Dirty Hamed
  • Score: 3

10:45pm Sun 3 Aug 14

Tim Burr says...

Dirty Hamed wrote:
Tim Burr wrote:
bolton12 wrote:
Tim Burr wrote:
bolton12 wrote:
Tim Burr wrote:
Posted by another crackpot group British Patriots Society II, bolton12
No Tim Burr, posted by a concerned resident from Astley Bridge with a photo of the lady at the protest.
Posted by British Patriots Society II - who are ex UKIP booted for racism and EDL affiliations.

Hmm, the next question is, why on earth would you take granny along to a demo attended by foul mouthed morons.
Because Tim Burr that lady wanted to show her support in opposing another mosque, which lots of other people oppose but won't show up because they are frightened of being branded racist.
Except for one fact - that fact being it's not another Mosque.

Don't let truth stand in the way of yours and Granny's bigotry.
You've been on here all weekend whatever your real name is ! do you not have a social life or is this IT ?
I'm working - treble time and 3 days off for the privilege. What about you - still unemployed?
[quote][p][bold]Dirty Hamed[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bolton12[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bolton12[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: Posted by another crackpot group British Patriots Society II, bolton12[/p][/quote]No Tim Burr, posted by a concerned resident from Astley Bridge with a photo of the lady at the protest.[/p][/quote]Posted by British Patriots Society II - who are ex UKIP booted for racism and EDL affiliations. Hmm, the next question is, why on earth would you take granny along to a demo attended by foul mouthed morons.[/p][/quote]Because Tim Burr that lady wanted to show her support in opposing another mosque, which lots of other people oppose but won't show up because they are frightened of being branded racist.[/p][/quote]Except for one fact - that fact being it's not another Mosque. Don't let truth stand in the way of yours and Granny's bigotry.[/p][/quote]You've been on here all weekend whatever your real name is ! do you not have a social life or is this IT ?[/p][/quote]I'm working - treble time and 3 days off for the privilege. What about you - still unemployed? Tim Burr
  • Score: 2

10:53pm Sun 3 Aug 14

Reed Lover says...

Mick England wrote:
We denounce islam full stop, it's a hate filled totalitarian ideology that will never evolve. All around the world we have jesus worshippers but they don't go around dressed in bed sheets? Islam isn't about progression its about regression.
KKK dress in bed sheets, they are Christian...
[quote][p][bold]Mick England[/bold] wrote: We denounce islam full stop, it's a hate filled totalitarian ideology that will never evolve. All around the world we have jesus worshippers but they don't go around dressed in bed sheets? Islam isn't about progression its about regression.[/p][/quote]KKK dress in bed sheets, they are Christian... Reed Lover
  • Score: 2

11:03pm Sun 3 Aug 14

Dirty Hamed says...

Tim Burr wrote:
Dirty Hamed wrote:
Tim Burr wrote:
bolton12 wrote:
Tim Burr wrote:
bolton12 wrote:
Tim Burr wrote:
Posted by another crackpot group British Patriots Society II, bolton12
No Tim Burr, posted by a concerned resident from Astley Bridge with a photo of the lady at the protest.
Posted by British Patriots Society II - who are ex UKIP booted for racism and EDL affiliations.

Hmm, the next question is, why on earth would you take granny along to a demo attended by foul mouthed morons.
Because Tim Burr that lady wanted to show her support in opposing another mosque, which lots of other people oppose but won't show up because they are frightened of being branded racist.
Except for one fact - that fact being it's not another Mosque.

Don't let truth stand in the way of yours and Granny's bigotry.
You've been on here all weekend whatever your real name is ! do you not have a social life or is this IT ?
I'm working - treble time and 3 days off for the privilege. What about you - still unemployed?
You did'nt really answer my question but to answer your question i have two businesses, ta for asking...
[quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dirty Hamed[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bolton12[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bolton12[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: Posted by another crackpot group British Patriots Society II, bolton12[/p][/quote]No Tim Burr, posted by a concerned resident from Astley Bridge with a photo of the lady at the protest.[/p][/quote]Posted by British Patriots Society II - who are ex UKIP booted for racism and EDL affiliations. Hmm, the next question is, why on earth would you take granny along to a demo attended by foul mouthed morons.[/p][/quote]Because Tim Burr that lady wanted to show her support in opposing another mosque, which lots of other people oppose but won't show up because they are frightened of being branded racist.[/p][/quote]Except for one fact - that fact being it's not another Mosque. Don't let truth stand in the way of yours and Granny's bigotry.[/p][/quote]You've been on here all weekend whatever your real name is ! do you not have a social life or is this IT ?[/p][/quote]I'm working - treble time and 3 days off for the privilege. What about you - still unemployed?[/p][/quote]You did'nt really answer my question but to answer your question i have two businesses, ta for asking... Dirty Hamed
  • Score: -1

11:08pm Sun 3 Aug 14

Tim Burr says...

Of course you do.
Of course you do. Tim Burr
  • Score: -6

11:11pm Sun 3 Aug 14

Dirty Hamed says...

And tomorrow i'm going to ask the boss for a day off to go golfing, oh wait i just did and he said i can...
And tomorrow i'm going to ask the boss for a day off to go golfing, oh wait i just did and he said i can... Dirty Hamed
  • Score: 12

11:13pm Sun 3 Aug 14

Tim Burr says...

Dirty Hamed wrote:
And tomorrow i'm going to ask the boss for a day off to go golfing, oh wait i just did and he said i can...
Take Thomas222 with you.
[quote][p][bold]Dirty Hamed[/bold] wrote: And tomorrow i'm going to ask the boss for a day off to go golfing, oh wait i just did and he said i can...[/p][/quote]Take Thomas222 with you. Tim Burr
  • Score: 1

11:15pm Sun 3 Aug 14

Dirty Hamed says...

Tim Burr wrote:
Of course you do.
I'll let you ponder that when your'e doing your triple shifts...WORKING FOR THE MAN...
[quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: Of course you do.[/p][/quote]I'll let you ponder that when your'e doing your triple shifts...WORKING FOR THE MAN... Dirty Hamed
  • Score: 2

11:17pm Sun 3 Aug 14

Tim Burr says...

Dirty Hamed wrote:
Tim Burr wrote:
Of course you do.
I'll let you ponder that when your'e doing your triple shifts...WORKING FOR THE MAN...
Can you start making an effort to clear your arrears - soon.
[quote][p][bold]Dirty Hamed[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: Of course you do.[/p][/quote]I'll let you ponder that when your'e doing your triple shifts...WORKING FOR THE MAN...[/p][/quote]Can you start making an effort to clear your arrears - soon. Tim Burr
  • Score: 3

11:29pm Sun 3 Aug 14

Phil from Smithills says...

united99 wrote:
mililly wrote:
This whole country is going down the pan...bolton is a terrible place at the minute I never go into town shopping or otherwise as its like a foreign country..so many foreigners. We are supposed to be a tollerant country but when we see them slowly taking over our towns its not very good..lets alll go to a muslim country and open a few churches and wear shorts and tshirts..see how long it takes to get stoned...they want their own way in their own country and ours..always ...infringes the human rights card played..pigs me off
You'll be better treated and respected milly.
There are churches in Muslim countries ie Pakistan in Karachi of all places and Christians do go with out any problems.
Yes there are churches in Pakistan, and certainly do find it a problem, as they do come under constant attacks by Muslims.

There was a shooting some months ago when 86 Christians, attending church in Pakistan were killed.
[quote][p][bold]united99[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mililly[/bold] wrote: This whole country is going down the pan...bolton is a terrible place at the minute I never go into town shopping or otherwise as its like a foreign country..so many foreigners. We are supposed to be a tollerant country but when we see them slowly taking over our towns its not very good..lets alll go to a muslim country and open a few churches and wear shorts and tshirts..see how long it takes to get stoned...they want their own way in their own country and ours..always ...infringes the human rights card played..pigs me off[/p][/quote]You'll be better treated and respected milly. There are churches in Muslim countries ie Pakistan in Karachi of all places and Christians do go with out any problems.[/p][/quote]Yes there are churches in Pakistan, and certainly do find it a problem, as they do come under constant attacks by Muslims. There was a shooting some months ago when 86 Christians, attending church in Pakistan were killed. Phil from Smithills
  • Score: 7

11:35pm Sun 3 Aug 14

tiny1988 says...

What I would like to know is what exactly these infidels are defending? This "Britishness" seems undefined yet this is what they are supposedly rioting for. All I hear is hate towards another culture, no virtues of this apparent 'white British' supremacy. I am a white woman, Christian and have lived In astley bridge for 22 years. I am appalled and embarrassed by the way my apparent 'race' behaves. Inherently lazy, uneducated, no pride, make no effort to do good or achieve in life. And they have the audacity to attack a community of people who are respectful, peaceful, look after the elderly, work incredibly hard and value education. I know there are problems with the Islamic faith but those wars raging in other countries are being blamed on normal working families in our community. That is just wrong, not to mention illogical. That is like people picketing outside our houses and branding all white males paedophiles because of those men in the media. I just see parallels with the Jewish in that the working class have caused their own misery, refuse to do anything about it, and instead use Muslims as escape goats because they are jealous of their success as a community. It is disgusting and I am ashamed of those people.
What I would like to know is what exactly these infidels are defending? This "Britishness" seems undefined yet this is what they are supposedly rioting for. All I hear is hate towards another culture, no virtues of this apparent 'white British' supremacy. I am a white woman, Christian and have lived In astley bridge for 22 years. I am appalled and embarrassed by the way my apparent 'race' behaves. Inherently lazy, uneducated, no pride, make no effort to do good or achieve in life. And they have the audacity to attack a community of people who are respectful, peaceful, look after the elderly, work incredibly hard and value education. I know there are problems with the Islamic faith but those wars raging in other countries are being blamed on normal working families in our community. That is just wrong, not to mention illogical. That is like people picketing outside our houses and branding all white males paedophiles because of those men in the media. I just see parallels with the Jewish in that the working class have caused their own misery, refuse to do anything about it, and instead use Muslims as escape goats because they are jealous of their success as a community. It is disgusting and I am ashamed of those people. tiny1988
  • Score: -1

11:40pm Sun 3 Aug 14

tiny1988 says...

By mentioning the Jewish faith I just want to clarify that the Jews suffered the same injustice from the nazis in that the German community used them as scapegoats for their own demise because they flourished in difficult economic times. The same way the Muslims are now being penalised by the white working class
By mentioning the Jewish faith I just want to clarify that the Jews suffered the same injustice from the nazis in that the German community used them as scapegoats for their own demise because they flourished in difficult economic times. The same way the Muslims are now being penalised by the white working class tiny1988
  • Score: -12

11:52pm Sun 3 Aug 14

Donkey Stone says...

Truered270 wrote:
The racists today were chanting Muslim pedos off our street lol. Name 1 muslim paedophile? I can name some non muslim ones without even thinking. Jimmy saville and Rolf Harris immediately come to mind and guess what they both aren't muslim so I suggest you keep your trap shut you uneducated racist people
Who married the 9 year old Aisha?
[quote][p][bold]Truered270[/bold] wrote: The racists today were chanting Muslim pedos off our street lol. Name 1 muslim paedophile? I can name some non muslim ones without even thinking. Jimmy saville and Rolf Harris immediately come to mind and guess what they both aren't muslim so I suggest you keep your trap shut you uneducated racist people[/p][/quote]Who married the 9 year old Aisha? Donkey Stone
  • Score: 7

6:25am Mon 4 Aug 14

rostron says...

Reed Lover wrote:
rostron wrote:
Tim Burr wrote:
rostron wrote:
After watching the live feed, never seen anything so biased in my life.
Careful consideration is on the cards as to stop my delivery of the paper !
Bye, missing you already. xxx
Obviously manners was not on the agenda when you were growing up !
Obviously actually growing up was not on the agenda when you were growing up.
How wrong can you be !
Was brought up in the area, went to school there, do not hold any opinion on colour, creed. I simply object to this building, far too big, will cause real problems with traffic, & have suggested on feeds a smaller version should be built on the old school site.
In the same breath, I haven't forgotten 3 yrs since, looking round the area & being told by a young child I had no right to even be on the street, Keswick st !
He was told in no uncertain terms that I was running round those streets before his grandfather, father was even born.
Who indoctrinated him to come out with this statement.?
[quote][p][bold]Reed Lover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rostron[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rostron[/bold] wrote: After watching the live feed, never seen anything so biased in my life. Careful consideration is on the cards as to stop my delivery of the paper ![/p][/quote]Bye, missing you already. xxx[/p][/quote]Obviously manners was not on the agenda when you were growing up ![/p][/quote]Obviously actually growing up was not on the agenda when you were growing up.[/p][/quote]How wrong can you be ! Was brought up in the area, went to school there, do not hold any opinion on colour, creed. I simply object to this building, far too big, will cause real problems with traffic, & have suggested on feeds a smaller version should be built on the old school site. In the same breath, I haven't forgotten 3 yrs since, looking round the area & being told by a young child I had no right to even be on the street, Keswick st ! He was told in no uncertain terms that I was running round those streets before his grandfather, father was even born. Who indoctrinated him to come out with this statement.? rostron
  • Score: 10

7:05am Mon 4 Aug 14

Dirty Hamed says...

Tim Burr wrote:
Dirty Hamed wrote:
Tim Burr wrote:
Of course you do.
I'll let you ponder that when your'e doing your triple shifts...WORKING FOR THE MAN...
Can you start making an effort to clear your arrears - soon.
OK iron man...
[quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dirty Hamed[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: Of course you do.[/p][/quote]I'll let you ponder that when your'e doing your triple shifts...WORKING FOR THE MAN...[/p][/quote]Can you start making an effort to clear your arrears - soon.[/p][/quote]OK iron man... Dirty Hamed
  • Score: 6

8:04am Mon 4 Aug 14

Tim Burr says...

Dirty Hamed wrote:
Tim Burr wrote:
Dirty Hamed wrote:
Tim Burr wrote:
Of course you do.
I'll let you ponder that when your'e doing your triple shifts...WORKING FOR THE MAN...
Can you start making an effort to clear your arrears - soon.
OK iron man...
Morning Mr Upton.
[quote][p][bold]Dirty Hamed[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dirty Hamed[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: Of course you do.[/p][/quote]I'll let you ponder that when your'e doing your triple shifts...WORKING FOR THE MAN...[/p][/quote]Can you start making an effort to clear your arrears - soon.[/p][/quote]OK iron man...[/p][/quote]Morning Mr Upton. Tim Burr
  • Score: 8

11:11am Mon 4 Aug 14

renovatedhouserunner says...

100 yrs since the great war. People gave their lives fighting for a country they felt was worth fighting for. You have to ask yourself, would everyone fight now? Or would some go to fight a war in some other country for something or some people that don't know what they are fighting for and who is on who's side. Great Britain! Not so great anymore sadly.
RIP to all those who lost their lives to give us our freedom!
100 yrs since the great war. People gave their lives fighting for a country they felt was worth fighting for. You have to ask yourself, would everyone fight now? Or would some go to fight a war in some other country for something or some people that don't know what they are fighting for and who is on who's side. Great Britain! Not so great anymore sadly. RIP to all those who lost their lives to give us our freedom! renovatedhouserunner
  • Score: 5

12:05pm Mon 4 Aug 14

johnnyjackson says...

Lynn57 wrote:
There was a march today in London which was not reported by the BBC or the newspapers but it is circulating on Facebook. Muslims have been going around London carrying placards with slogans as follows. "Prepare for a European 9 11" "non Islam people should be beheaded" and other slogans designed to incite racial hatred. The pictures show a policeman standing by doing precisely nothing. This is not our country anymore.
What a load of lies...... Prove it.
[quote][p][bold]Lynn57[/bold] wrote: There was a march today in London which was not reported by the BBC or the newspapers but it is circulating on Facebook. Muslims have been going around London carrying placards with slogans as follows. "Prepare for a European 9 11" "non Islam people should be beheaded" and other slogans designed to incite racial hatred. The pictures show a policeman standing by doing precisely nothing. This is not our country anymore.[/p][/quote]What a load of lies...... Prove it. johnnyjackson
  • Score: 1

12:14pm Mon 4 Aug 14

johnnyjackson says...

rostron wrote:
Reed Lover wrote:
rostron wrote:
Tim Burr wrote:
rostron wrote:
After watching the live feed, never seen anything so biased in my life.
Careful consideration is on the cards as to stop my delivery of the paper !
Bye, missing you already. xxx
Obviously manners was not on the agenda when you were growing up !
Obviously actually growing up was not on the agenda when you were growing up.
How wrong can you be !
Was brought up in the area, went to school there, do not hold any opinion on colour, creed. I simply object to this building, far too big, will cause real problems with traffic, & have suggested on feeds a smaller version should be built on the old school site.
In the same breath, I haven't forgotten 3 yrs since, looking round the area & being told by a young child I had no right to even be on the street, Keswick st !
He was told in no uncertain terms that I was running round those streets before his grandfather, father was even born.
Who indoctrinated him to come out with this statement.?
I doubt the poor child even understood your scally Bolton accent.
[quote][p][bold]rostron[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Reed Lover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rostron[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rostron[/bold] wrote: After watching the live feed, never seen anything so biased in my life. Careful consideration is on the cards as to stop my delivery of the paper ![/p][/quote]Bye, missing you already. xxx[/p][/quote]Obviously manners was not on the agenda when you were growing up ![/p][/quote]Obviously actually growing up was not on the agenda when you were growing up.[/p][/quote]How wrong can you be ! Was brought up in the area, went to school there, do not hold any opinion on colour, creed. I simply object to this building, far too big, will cause real problems with traffic, & have suggested on feeds a smaller version should be built on the old school site. In the same breath, I haven't forgotten 3 yrs since, looking round the area & being told by a young child I had no right to even be on the street, Keswick st ! He was told in no uncertain terms that I was running round those streets before his grandfather, father was even born. Who indoctrinated him to come out with this statement.?[/p][/quote]I doubt the poor child even understood your scally Bolton accent. johnnyjackson
  • Score: -4

12:16pm Mon 4 Aug 14

johnnyjackson says...

tiny1988 wrote:
What I would like to know is what exactly these infidels are defending? This "Britishness" seems undefined yet this is what they are supposedly rioting for. All I hear is hate towards another culture, no virtues of this apparent 'white British' supremacy. I am a white woman, Christian and have lived In astley bridge for 22 years. I am appalled and embarrassed by the way my apparent 'race' behaves. Inherently lazy, uneducated, no pride, make no effort to do good or achieve in life. And they have the audacity to attack a community of people who are respectful, peaceful, look after the elderly, work incredibly hard and value education. I know there are problems with the Islamic faith but those wars raging in other countries are being blamed on normal working families in our community. That is just wrong, not to mention illogical. That is like people picketing outside our houses and branding all white males paedophiles because of those men in the media. I just see parallels with the Jewish in that the working class have caused their own misery, refuse to do anything about it, and instead use Muslims as escape goats because they are jealous of their success as a community. It is disgusting and I am ashamed of those people.
You and me both, ashamed of these people. Well put....
[quote][p][bold]tiny1988[/bold] wrote: What I would like to know is what exactly these infidels are defending? This "Britishness" seems undefined yet this is what they are supposedly rioting for. All I hear is hate towards another culture, no virtues of this apparent 'white British' supremacy. I am a white woman, Christian and have lived In astley bridge for 22 years. I am appalled and embarrassed by the way my apparent 'race' behaves. Inherently lazy, uneducated, no pride, make no effort to do good or achieve in life. And they have the audacity to attack a community of people who are respectful, peaceful, look after the elderly, work incredibly hard and value education. I know there are problems with the Islamic faith but those wars raging in other countries are being blamed on normal working families in our community. That is just wrong, not to mention illogical. That is like people picketing outside our houses and branding all white males paedophiles because of those men in the media. I just see parallels with the Jewish in that the working class have caused their own misery, refuse to do anything about it, and instead use Muslims as escape goats because they are jealous of their success as a community. It is disgusting and I am ashamed of those people.[/p][/quote]You and me both, ashamed of these people. Well put.... johnnyjackson
  • Score: -3

12:20pm Mon 4 Aug 14

johnnyjackson says...

albertmodley wrote:
Do muslim girls ever marry non muslim males, thus proving they genuinely do want integration, bearing mixed race children and partaking in a genuine mixed race multi cultural society or do they or their parents more particularly want to maintain their perceived supper race pure muslim blood status?
I ask the question for the million'th time, what good would the muslims be integrating into? I havent recieved an answer yet.

All I can think of is "getting smashed", being skint and being racist.
[quote][p][bold]albertmodley[/bold] wrote: Do muslim girls ever marry non muslim males, thus proving they genuinely do want integration, bearing mixed race children and partaking in a genuine mixed race multi cultural society or do they or their parents more particularly want to maintain their perceived supper race pure muslim blood status?[/p][/quote]I ask the question for the million'th time, what good would the muslims be integrating into? I havent recieved an answer yet. All I can think of is "getting smashed", being skint and being racist. johnnyjackson
  • Score: -1

12:24pm Mon 4 Aug 14

johnnyjackson says...

longballs r us wrote:
Phil from Smithills wrote:
It would appear your use of the word " Zionists " is said in an offensive way, just as anyone using the "P" word.
I would suggest you Google Jeremy Bowen who is BBC Middle East editor and read what he has to say about Hamas using human shields.
Watching CNN , Fox News who is run by Zionist ( not Jews) have a set agenda on how to give news to the masses.
They are known to fire reporters who do not follow the protocol set out to them.
Jerry Bowen from where, did I hear you say "BBC" hahaha....

Blair and Bush Corporation. Watch Channel 4 and then come back with some unbiased comments.
[quote][p][bold]longballs r us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Phil from Smithills[/bold] wrote: It would appear your use of the word " Zionists " is said in an offensive way, just as anyone using the "P" word.[/p][/quote]I would suggest you Google Jeremy Bowen who is BBC Middle East editor and read what he has to say about Hamas using human shields. Watching CNN , Fox News who is run by Zionist ( not Jews) have a set agenda on how to give news to the masses. They are known to fire reporters who do not follow the protocol set out to them.[/p][/quote]Jerry Bowen from where, did I hear you say "BBC" hahaha.... Blair and Bush Corporation. Watch Channel 4 and then come back with some unbiased comments. johnnyjackson
  • Score: 0

12:31pm Mon 4 Aug 14

julieanddave says...

its from 2006

http://www.snopes.co
m/photos/politics/mu
slimprotest.asp
its from 2006 http://www.snopes.co m/photos/politics/mu slimprotest.asp julieanddave
  • Score: 2

12:39pm Mon 4 Aug 14

MissDemocracy says...

A young Muslim man, married to an English woman, began working at my place of employment recently. On his team is a young gay man. When the Muslim man discovered that the other gentleman was gay he said... if we were in my country I would cut your head off for being so open about that. Men are not gay, you are greedy. Islam teaches us that greedy men must be punished... this man has integrated, married to a non-Muslim white English woman, but his opinions on subjects such as homosexuality have not changed. Religion teaches a person how not to think for themselves. Muslims wish not to be discriminated against because of their religious choices, but even those who will integrate, continue to discriminate against people based on who they are. This is not me being racist, I am simply trying to demonstrate that this country will never be at peace as long as so many religions reside in one place. Everyone is entitled to their beliefs. I believe religion is BS. It teaches hate.
A young Muslim man, married to an English woman, began working at my place of employment recently. On his team is a young gay man. When the Muslim man discovered that the other gentleman was gay he said... if we were in my country I would cut your head off for being so open about that. Men are not gay, you are greedy. Islam teaches us that greedy men must be punished... this man has integrated, married to a non-Muslim white English woman, but his opinions on subjects such as homosexuality have not changed. Religion teaches a person how not to think for themselves. Muslims wish not to be discriminated against because of their religious choices, but even those who will integrate, continue to discriminate against people based on who they are. This is not me being racist, I am simply trying to demonstrate that this country will never be at peace as long as so many religions reside in one place. Everyone is entitled to their beliefs. I believe religion is BS. It teaches hate. MissDemocracy
  • Score: -4

12:56pm Mon 4 Aug 14

johnnyjackson says...

MissDemocracy wrote:
A young Muslim man, married to an English woman, began working at my place of employment recently. On his team is a young gay man. When the Muslim man discovered that the other gentleman was gay he said... if we were in my country I would cut your head off for being so open about that. Men are not gay, you are greedy. Islam teaches us that greedy men must be punished... this man has integrated, married to a non-Muslim white English woman, but his opinions on subjects such as homosexuality have not changed. Religion teaches a person how not to think for themselves. Muslims wish not to be discriminated against because of their religious choices, but even those who will integrate, continue to discriminate against people based on who they are. This is not me being racist, I am simply trying to demonstrate that this country will never be at peace as long as so many religions reside in one place. Everyone is entitled to their beliefs. I believe religion is BS. It teaches hate.
Ask a Christian or Jew about their opinion on Gay people.....

Many thanks and thanks for coming as you wont be posting on here again very soon when you listen to the others opinions.
[quote][p][bold]MissDemocracy[/bold] wrote: A young Muslim man, married to an English woman, began working at my place of employment recently. On his team is a young gay man. When the Muslim man discovered that the other gentleman was gay he said... if we were in my country I would cut your head off for being so open about that. Men are not gay, you are greedy. Islam teaches us that greedy men must be punished... this man has integrated, married to a non-Muslim white English woman, but his opinions on subjects such as homosexuality have not changed. Religion teaches a person how not to think for themselves. Muslims wish not to be discriminated against because of their religious choices, but even those who will integrate, continue to discriminate against people based on who they are. This is not me being racist, I am simply trying to demonstrate that this country will never be at peace as long as so many religions reside in one place. Everyone is entitled to their beliefs. I believe religion is BS. It teaches hate.[/p][/quote]Ask a Christian or Jew about their opinion on Gay people..... Many thanks and thanks for coming as you wont be posting on here again very soon when you listen to the others opinions. johnnyjackson
  • Score: 2

12:58pm Mon 4 Aug 14

johnnyjackson says...

Rememberscarborough wrote:
The extremists may make the headlines but there is a great deal of concern that the indigenous white English people are now viewed as second class citizens and that any of the country's laws (planning etc) do not apply if you are from an ethnic minority.

Politicians may choose to accuse anyone who opposes this project as racist but that is a cop out and fails to deal with a far greater issue that will only get worse the longer it's ignored.

If this country isn't to descend in to chaos then all people need to integrate and expanding Muslim conclaves within the town isn't the way to do it.
Take a short trip to Whitefield then come back on here and tell us about how many Jews intergarte into this wonderful culture.

They have their own schools, businesses, communities. I doubt very much they would even look into the general direction of an Englshman or woman.
[quote][p][bold]Rememberscarborough[/bold] wrote: The extremists may make the headlines but there is a great deal of concern that the indigenous white English people are now viewed as second class citizens and that any of the country's laws (planning etc) do not apply if you are from an ethnic minority. Politicians may choose to accuse anyone who opposes this project as racist but that is a cop out and fails to deal with a far greater issue that will only get worse the longer it's ignored. If this country isn't to descend in to chaos then all people need to integrate and expanding Muslim conclaves within the town isn't the way to do it.[/p][/quote]Take a short trip to Whitefield then come back on here and tell us about how many Jews intergarte into this wonderful culture. They have their own schools, businesses, communities. I doubt very much they would even look into the general direction of an Englshman or woman. johnnyjackson
  • Score: 3

12:59pm Mon 4 Aug 14

MissDemocracy says...

johnnyjackson wrote:
MissDemocracy wrote:
A young Muslim man, married to an English woman, began working at my place of employment recently. On his team is a young gay man. When the Muslim man discovered that the other gentleman was gay he said... if we were in my country I would cut your head off for being so open about that. Men are not gay, you are greedy. Islam teaches us that greedy men must be punished... this man has integrated, married to a non-Muslim white English woman, but his opinions on subjects such as homosexuality have not changed. Religion teaches a person how not to think for themselves. Muslims wish not to be discriminated against because of their religious choices, but even those who will integrate, continue to discriminate against people based on who they are. This is not me being racist, I am simply trying to demonstrate that this country will never be at peace as long as so many religions reside in one place. Everyone is entitled to their beliefs. I believe religion is BS. It teaches hate.
Ask a Christian or Jew about their opinion on Gay people.....

Many thanks and thanks for coming as you wont be posting on here again very soon when you listen to the others opinions.
Excuse me. I said all religion. Not just Islam. I simply used it as an example because it is something that I witnessed! As I stated... Religion is BS. Not Islam is BS. RELIGION TEACHES HATE. Not just Islam. Though you read what you wanted to fit with your opinion that anybody who says anything negative about Muslims is a racist.
[quote][p][bold]johnnyjackson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MissDemocracy[/bold] wrote: A young Muslim man, married to an English woman, began working at my place of employment recently. On his team is a young gay man. When the Muslim man discovered that the other gentleman was gay he said... if we were in my country I would cut your head off for being so open about that. Men are not gay, you are greedy. Islam teaches us that greedy men must be punished... this man has integrated, married to a non-Muslim white English woman, but his opinions on subjects such as homosexuality have not changed. Religion teaches a person how not to think for themselves. Muslims wish not to be discriminated against because of their religious choices, but even those who will integrate, continue to discriminate against people based on who they are. This is not me being racist, I am simply trying to demonstrate that this country will never be at peace as long as so many religions reside in one place. Everyone is entitled to their beliefs. I believe religion is BS. It teaches hate.[/p][/quote]Ask a Christian or Jew about their opinion on Gay people..... Many thanks and thanks for coming as you wont be posting on here again very soon when you listen to the others opinions.[/p][/quote]Excuse me. I said all religion. Not just Islam. I simply used it as an example because it is something that I witnessed! As I stated... Religion is BS. Not Islam is BS. RELIGION TEACHES HATE. Not just Islam. Though you read what you wanted to fit with your opinion that anybody who says anything negative about Muslims is a racist. MissDemocracy
  • Score: 2

1:03pm Mon 4 Aug 14

johnnyjackson says...

MissDemocracy wrote:
johnnyjackson wrote:
MissDemocracy wrote:
A young Muslim man, married to an English woman, began working at my place of employment recently. On his team is a young gay man. When the Muslim man discovered that the other gentleman was gay he said... if we were in my country I would cut your head off for being so open about that. Men are not gay, you are greedy. Islam teaches us that greedy men must be punished... this man has integrated, married to a non-Muslim white English woman, but his opinions on subjects such as homosexuality have not changed. Religion teaches a person how not to think for themselves. Muslims wish not to be discriminated against because of their religious choices, but even those who will integrate, continue to discriminate against people based on who they are. This is not me being racist, I am simply trying to demonstrate that this country will never be at peace as long as so many religions reside in one place. Everyone is entitled to their beliefs. I believe religion is BS. It teaches hate.
Ask a Christian or Jew about their opinion on Gay people.....

Many thanks and thanks for coming as you wont be posting on here again very soon when you listen to the others opinions.
Excuse me. I said all religion. Not just Islam. I simply used it as an example because it is something that I witnessed! As I stated... Religion is BS. Not Islam is BS. RELIGION TEACHES HATE. Not just Islam. Though you read what you wanted to fit with your opinion that anybody who says anything negative about Muslims is a racist.
Excuse me!!!!!!!

A jew wouldnt even marry a christian. Unless you are born a jew, you cannot convert to judaisim. How many jews have you ever come across? The answer is 0. Why? The answer is simple. They think you are a scum bag.

Whats your comment on that?
[quote][p][bold]MissDemocracy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]johnnyjackson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MissDemocracy[/bold] wrote: A young Muslim man, married to an English woman, began working at my place of employment recently. On his team is a young gay man. When the Muslim man discovered that the other gentleman was gay he said... if we were in my country I would cut your head off for being so open about that. Men are not gay, you are greedy. Islam teaches us that greedy men must be punished... this man has integrated, married to a non-Muslim white English woman, but his opinions on subjects such as homosexuality have not changed. Religion teaches a person how not to think for themselves. Muslims wish not to be discriminated against because of their religious choices, but even those who will integrate, continue to discriminate against people based on who they are. This is not me being racist, I am simply trying to demonstrate that this country will never be at peace as long as so many religions reside in one place. Everyone is entitled to their beliefs. I believe religion is BS. It teaches hate.[/p][/quote]Ask a Christian or Jew about their opinion on Gay people..... Many thanks and thanks for coming as you wont be posting on here again very soon when you listen to the others opinions.[/p][/quote]Excuse me. I said all religion. Not just Islam. I simply used it as an example because it is something that I witnessed! As I stated... Religion is BS. Not Islam is BS. RELIGION TEACHES HATE. Not just Islam. Though you read what you wanted to fit with your opinion that anybody who says anything negative about Muslims is a racist.[/p][/quote]Excuse me!!!!!!! A jew wouldnt even marry a christian. Unless you are born a jew, you cannot convert to judaisim. How many jews have you ever come across? The answer is 0. Why? The answer is simple. They think you are a scum bag. Whats your comment on that? johnnyjackson
  • Score: 2

1:07pm Mon 4 Aug 14

cliff4treasurer says...

johnnyjackson says...


albertmodley wrote:
Do muslim girls ever marry non muslim males, thus proving they genuinely do want integration, bearing mixed race children and partaking in a genuine mixed race multi cultural society or do they or their parents more particularly want to maintain their perceived supper race pure muslim blood status?
I ask the question for the million'th time, what good would the muslims be integrating into? I havent recieved an answer yet.

All I can think of is "getting smashed", being skint and being racist.

Or rather what would us British white Christians be integrating into?

Treating females as second class citizens, making my wife wear a "burka" .Running over from behind a soldier then cutting his throat as he lay unconscious on the floor, videoing me cutting someone's throat and posting it on the internet,
public hangings ? Beheadings on the town hall square? Not here yet you say? I say tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick!!!

Its a two way thing and it isn't going to happen, something has to give.
johnnyjackson says... albertmodley wrote: Do muslim girls ever marry non muslim males, thus proving they genuinely do want integration, bearing mixed race children and partaking in a genuine mixed race multi cultural society or do they or their parents more particularly want to maintain their perceived supper race pure muslim blood status? I ask the question for the million'th time, what good would the muslims be integrating into? I havent recieved an answer yet. All I can think of is "getting smashed", being skint and being racist. Or rather what would us British white Christians be integrating into? Treating females as second class citizens, making my wife wear a "burka" .Running over from behind a soldier then cutting his throat as he lay unconscious on the floor, videoing me cutting someone's throat and posting it on the internet, public hangings ? Beheadings on the town hall square? Not here yet you say? I say tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick!!! Its a two way thing and it isn't going to happen, something has to give. cliff4treasurer
  • Score: 3

1:10pm Mon 4 Aug 14

MissDemocracy says...

johnnyjackson wrote:
MissDemocracy wrote:
johnnyjackson wrote:
MissDemocracy wrote:
A young Muslim man, married to an English woman, began working at my place of employment recently. On his team is a young gay man. When the Muslim man discovered that the other gentleman was gay he said... if we were in my country I would cut your head off for being so open about that. Men are not gay, you are greedy. Islam teaches us that greedy men must be punished... this man has integrated, married to a non-Muslim white English woman, but his opinions on subjects such as homosexuality have not changed. Religion teaches a person how not to think for themselves. Muslims wish not to be discriminated against because of their religious choices, but even those who will integrate, continue to discriminate against people based on who they are. This is not me being racist, I am simply trying to demonstrate that this country will never be at peace as long as so many religions reside in one place. Everyone is entitled to their beliefs. I believe religion is BS. It teaches hate.
Ask a Christian or Jew about their opinion on Gay people.....

Many thanks and thanks for coming as you wont be posting on here again very soon when you listen to the others opinions.
Excuse me. I said all religion. Not just Islam. I simply used it as an example because it is something that I witnessed! As I stated... Religion is BS. Not Islam is BS. RELIGION TEACHES HATE. Not just Islam. Though you read what you wanted to fit with your opinion that anybody who says anything negative about Muslims is a racist.
Excuse me!!!!!!!

A jew wouldnt even marry a christian. Unless you are born a jew, you cannot convert to judaisim. How many jews have you ever come across? The answer is 0. Why? The answer is simple. They think you are a scum bag.

Whats your comment on that?
Haha. The street I grew up on, a lady who died 3 years ago was Jewish. We spent every new year at her house. Visited her every christmas. Went round for Sunday dinner every fortnight. Attended her funeral and took part in a traditional jewish burial. She was married to a non-jewish man. But her religious beliefs were strong, she just didn't see the need to impose them on everyone. The point you are making is redundant. I am not interested in squabbling over which religion is worse. Religion in itself is bad enough.
[quote][p][bold]johnnyjackson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MissDemocracy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]johnnyjackson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MissDemocracy[/bold] wrote: A young Muslim man, married to an English woman, began working at my place of employment recently. On his team is a young gay man. When the Muslim man discovered that the other gentleman was gay he said... if we were in my country I would cut your head off for being so open about that. Men are not gay, you are greedy. Islam teaches us that greedy men must be punished... this man has integrated, married to a non-Muslim white English woman, but his opinions on subjects such as homosexuality have not changed. Religion teaches a person how not to think for themselves. Muslims wish not to be discriminated against because of their religious choices, but even those who will integrate, continue to discriminate against people based on who they are. This is not me being racist, I am simply trying to demonstrate that this country will never be at peace as long as so many religions reside in one place. Everyone is entitled to their beliefs. I believe religion is BS. It teaches hate.[/p][/quote]Ask a Christian or Jew about their opinion on Gay people..... Many thanks and thanks for coming as you wont be posting on here again very soon when you listen to the others opinions.[/p][/quote]Excuse me. I said all religion. Not just Islam. I simply used it as an example because it is something that I witnessed! As I stated... Religion is BS. Not Islam is BS. RELIGION TEACHES HATE. Not just Islam. Though you read what you wanted to fit with your opinion that anybody who says anything negative about Muslims is a racist.[/p][/quote]Excuse me!!!!!!! A jew wouldnt even marry a christian. Unless you are born a jew, you cannot convert to judaisim. How many jews have you ever come across? The answer is 0. Why? The answer is simple. They think you are a scum bag. Whats your comment on that?[/p][/quote]Haha. The street I grew up on, a lady who died 3 years ago was Jewish. We spent every new year at her house. Visited her every christmas. Went round for Sunday dinner every fortnight. Attended her funeral and took part in a traditional jewish burial. She was married to a non-jewish man. But her religious beliefs were strong, she just didn't see the need to impose them on everyone. The point you are making is redundant. I am not interested in squabbling over which religion is worse. Religion in itself is bad enough. MissDemocracy
  • Score: 2

1:45pm Mon 4 Aug 14

MissDemocracy says...

cliff4treasurer wrote:
johnnyjackson says...


albertmodley wrote:
Do muslim girls ever marry non muslim males, thus proving they genuinely do want integration, bearing mixed race children and partaking in a genuine mixed race multi cultural society or do they or their parents more particularly want to maintain their perceived supper race pure muslim blood status?
I ask the question for the million'th time, what good would the muslims be integrating into? I havent recieved an answer yet.

All I can think of is "getting smashed", being skint and being racist.

Or rather what would us British white Christians be integrating into?

Treating females as second class citizens, making my wife wear a "burka" .Running over from behind a soldier then cutting his throat as he lay unconscious on the floor, videoing me cutting someone's throat and posting it on the internet,
public hangings ? Beheadings on the town hall square? Not here yet you say? I say tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick!!!

Its a two way thing and it isn't going to happen, something has to give.
Also... I met about 200 hundred jewish people at Auschwitz 1 in Poland... 3 of which had suffered through concentration camps in world war 2. They were lovely people. Yes their religious views are different from mine and they others of us who went, several muslim, hindu and christians. We all put our differences aside and had a long conversation over a cup of tea before visiting the concentration camps and gas chambers that those poor people died in or suffered through. Put religion aside and humanity shines through. Bring religion to the forefront (regardless of the religion) and it brings out the worst in most. That was my point, people's ignorance and lack of tolerance of differing religion and culture causes war.
[quote][p][bold]cliff4treasurer[/bold] wrote: johnnyjackson says... albertmodley wrote: Do muslim girls ever marry non muslim males, thus proving they genuinely do want integration, bearing mixed race children and partaking in a genuine mixed race multi cultural society or do they or their parents more particularly want to maintain their perceived supper race pure muslim blood status? I ask the question for the million'th time, what good would the muslims be integrating into? I havent recieved an answer yet. All I can think of is "getting smashed", being skint and being racist. Or rather what would us British white Christians be integrating into? Treating females as second class citizens, making my wife wear a "burka" .Running over from behind a soldier then cutting his throat as he lay unconscious on the floor, videoing me cutting someone's throat and posting it on the internet, public hangings ? Beheadings on the town hall square? Not here yet you say? I say tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick!!! Its a two way thing and it isn't going to happen, something has to give.[/p][/quote]Also... I met about 200 hundred jewish people at Auschwitz 1 in Poland... 3 of which had suffered through concentration camps in world war 2. They were lovely people. Yes their religious views are different from mine and they others of us who went, several muslim, hindu and christians. We all put our differences aside and had a long conversation over a cup of tea before visiting the concentration camps and gas chambers that those poor people died in or suffered through. Put religion aside and humanity shines through. Bring religion to the forefront (regardless of the religion) and it brings out the worst in most. That was my point, people's ignorance and lack of tolerance of differing religion and culture causes war. MissDemocracy
  • Score: 1

2:06pm Mon 4 Aug 14

johnnyjackson says...

MissDemocracy wrote:
johnnyjackson wrote:
MissDemocracy wrote:
johnnyjackson wrote:
MissDemocracy wrote:
A young Muslim man, married to an English woman, began working at my place of employment recently. On his team is a young gay man. When the Muslim man discovered that the other gentleman was gay he said... if we were in my country I would cut your head off for being so open about that. Men are not gay, you are greedy. Islam teaches us that greedy men must be punished... this man has integrated, married to a non-Muslim white English woman, but his opinions on subjects such as homosexuality have not changed. Religion teaches a person how not to think for themselves. Muslims wish not to be discriminated against because of their religious choices, but even those who will integrate, continue to discriminate against people based on who they are. This is not me being racist, I am simply trying to demonstrate that this country will never be at peace as long as so many religions reside in one place. Everyone is entitled to their beliefs. I believe religion is BS. It teaches hate.
Ask a Christian or Jew about their opinion on Gay people.....

Many thanks and thanks for coming as you wont be posting on here again very soon when you listen to the others opinions.
Excuse me. I said all religion. Not just Islam. I simply used it as an example because it is something that I witnessed! As I stated... Religion is BS. Not Islam is BS. RELIGION TEACHES HATE. Not just Islam. Though you read what you wanted to fit with your opinion that anybody who says anything negative about Muslims is a racist.
Excuse me!!!!!!!

A jew wouldnt even marry a christian. Unless you are born a jew, you cannot convert to judaisim. How many jews have you ever come across? The answer is 0. Why? The answer is simple. They think you are a scum bag.

Whats your comment on that?
Haha. The street I grew up on, a lady who died 3 years ago was Jewish. We spent every new year at her house. Visited her every christmas. Went round for Sunday dinner every fortnight. Attended her funeral and took part in a traditional jewish burial. She was married to a non-jewish man. But her religious beliefs were strong, she just didn't see the need to impose them on everyone. The point you are making is redundant. I am not interested in squabbling over which religion is worse. Religion in itself is bad enough.
What absolute tosh. Liar.
[quote][p][bold]MissDemocracy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]johnnyjackson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MissDemocracy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]johnnyjackson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MissDemocracy[/bold] wrote: A young Muslim man, married to an English woman, began working at my place of employment recently. On his team is a young gay man. When the Muslim man discovered that the other gentleman was gay he said... if we were in my country I would cut your head off for being so open about that. Men are not gay, you are greedy. Islam teaches us that greedy men must be punished... this man has integrated, married to a non-Muslim white English woman, but his opinions on subjects such as homosexuality have not changed. Religion teaches a person how not to think for themselves. Muslims wish not to be discriminated against because of their religious choices, but even those who will integrate, continue to discriminate against people based on who they are. This is not me being racist, I am simply trying to demonstrate that this country will never be at peace as long as so many religions reside in one place. Everyone is entitled to their beliefs. I believe religion is BS. It teaches hate.[/p][/quote]Ask a Christian or Jew about their opinion on Gay people..... Many thanks and thanks for coming as you wont be posting on here again very soon when you listen to the others opinions.[/p][/quote]Excuse me. I said all religion. Not just Islam. I simply used it as an example because it is something that I witnessed! As I stated... Religion is BS. Not Islam is BS. RELIGION TEACHES HATE. Not just Islam. Though you read what you wanted to fit with your opinion that anybody who says anything negative about Muslims is a racist.[/p][/quote]Excuse me!!!!!!! A jew wouldnt even marry a christian. Unless you are born a jew, you cannot convert to judaisim. How many jews have you ever come across? The answer is 0. Why? The answer is simple. They think you are a scum bag. Whats your comment on that?[/p][/quote]Haha. The street I grew up on, a lady who died 3 years ago was Jewish. We spent every new year at her house. Visited her every christmas. Went round for Sunday dinner every fortnight. Attended her funeral and took part in a traditional jewish burial. She was married to a non-jewish man. But her religious beliefs were strong, she just didn't see the need to impose them on everyone. The point you are making is redundant. I am not interested in squabbling over which religion is worse. Religion in itself is bad enough.[/p][/quote]What absolute tosh. Liar. johnnyjackson
  • Score: 0

2:08pm Mon 4 Aug 14

johnnyjackson says...

MissDemocracy wrote:
cliff4treasurer wrote:
johnnyjackson says...


albertmodley wrote:
Do muslim girls ever marry non muslim males, thus proving they genuinely do want integration, bearing mixed race children and partaking in a genuine mixed race multi cultural society or do they or their parents more particularly want to maintain their perceived supper race pure muslim blood status?
I ask the question for the million'th time, what good would the muslims be integrating into? I havent recieved an answer yet.

All I can think of is "getting smashed", being skint and being racist.

Or rather what would us British white Christians be integrating into?

Treating females as second class citizens, making my wife wear a "burka" .Running over from behind a soldier then cutting his throat as he lay unconscious on the floor, videoing me cutting someone's throat and posting it on the internet,
public hangings ? Beheadings on the town hall square? Not here yet you say? I say tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick!!!

Its a two way thing and it isn't going to happen, something has to give.
Also... I met about 200 hundred jewish people at Auschwitz 1 in Poland... 3 of which had suffered through concentration camps in world war 2. They were lovely people. Yes their religious views are different from mine and they others of us who went, several muslim, hindu and christians. We all put our differences aside and had a long conversation over a cup of tea before visiting the concentration camps and gas chambers that those poor people died in or suffered through. Put religion aside and humanity shines through. Bring religion to the forefront (regardless of the religion) and it brings out the worst in most. That was my point, people's ignorance and lack of tolerance of differing religion and culture causes war.
Its not religion, its politics that cause war.
[quote][p][bold]MissDemocracy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cliff4treasurer[/bold] wrote: johnnyjackson says... albertmodley wrote: Do muslim girls ever marry non muslim males, thus proving they genuinely do want integration, bearing mixed race children and partaking in a genuine mixed race multi cultural society or do they or their parents more particularly want to maintain their perceived supper race pure muslim blood status? I ask the question for the million'th time, what good would the muslims be integrating into? I havent recieved an answer yet. All I can think of is "getting smashed", being skint and being racist. Or rather what would us British white Christians be integrating into? Treating females as second class citizens, making my wife wear a "burka" .Running over from behind a soldier then cutting his throat as he lay unconscious on the floor, videoing me cutting someone's throat and posting it on the internet, public hangings ? Beheadings on the town hall square? Not here yet you say? I say tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick!!! Its a two way thing and it isn't going to happen, something has to give.[/p][/quote]Also... I met about 200 hundred jewish people at Auschwitz 1 in Poland... 3 of which had suffered through concentration camps in world war 2. They were lovely people. Yes their religious views are different from mine and they others of us who went, several muslim, hindu and christians. We all put our differences aside and had a long conversation over a cup of tea before visiting the concentration camps and gas chambers that those poor people died in or suffered through. Put religion aside and humanity shines through. Bring religion to the forefront (regardless of the religion) and it brings out the worst in most. That was my point, people's ignorance and lack of tolerance of differing religion and culture causes war.[/p][/quote]Its not religion, its politics that cause war. johnnyjackson
  • Score: 6

2:50pm Mon 4 Aug 14

renovatedhouserunner says...

Religion is outdated, it was made up by people who knew no different. We now know better, yet people still choose to believe, which wouldn't be a problem if we didn't have extremists or people using it as an excuse to take control of areas and votes, then milking the state for all they can get.
Religion is outdated, it was made up by people who knew no different. We now know better, yet people still choose to believe, which wouldn't be a problem if we didn't have extremists or people using it as an excuse to take control of areas and votes, then milking the state for all they can get. renovatedhouserunner
  • Score: 0

2:53pm Mon 4 Aug 14

renovatedhouserunner says...

johnnyjackson wrote:
MissDemocracy wrote:
cliff4treasurer wrote:
johnnyjackson says...


albertmodley wrote:
Do muslim girls ever marry non muslim males, thus proving they genuinely do want integration, bearing mixed race children and partaking in a genuine mixed race multi cultural society or do they or their parents more particularly want to maintain their perceived supper race pure muslim blood status?
I ask the question for the million'th time, what good would the muslims be integrating into? I havent recieved an answer yet.

All I can think of is "getting smashed", being skint and being racist.

Or rather what would us British white Christians be integrating into?

Treating females as second class citizens, making my wife wear a "burka" .Running over from behind a soldier then cutting his throat as he lay unconscious on the floor, videoing me cutting someone's throat and posting it on the internet,
public hangings ? Beheadings on the town hall square? Not here yet you say? I say tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick!!!

Its a two way thing and it isn't going to happen, something has to give.
Also... I met about 200 hundred jewish people at Auschwitz 1 in Poland... 3 of which had suffered through concentration camps in world war 2. They were lovely people. Yes their religious views are different from mine and they others of us who went, several muslim, hindu and christians. We all put our differences aside and had a long conversation over a cup of tea before visiting the concentration camps and gas chambers that those poor people died in or suffered through. Put religion aside and humanity shines through. Bring religion to the forefront (regardless of the religion) and it brings out the worst in most. That was my point, people's ignorance and lack of tolerance of differing religion and culture causes war.
Its not religion, its politics that cause war.
Bin laden was no politician
[quote][p][bold]johnnyjackson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MissDemocracy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cliff4treasurer[/bold] wrote: johnnyjackson says... albertmodley wrote: Do muslim girls ever marry non muslim males, thus proving they genuinely do want integration, bearing mixed race children and partaking in a genuine mixed race multi cultural society or do they or their parents more particularly want to maintain their perceived supper race pure muslim blood status? I ask the question for the million'th time, what good would the muslims be integrating into? I havent recieved an answer yet. All I can think of is "getting smashed", being skint and being racist. Or rather what would us British white Christians be integrating into? Treating females as second class citizens, making my wife wear a "burka" .Running over from behind a soldier then cutting his throat as he lay unconscious on the floor, videoing me cutting someone's throat and posting it on the internet, public hangings ? Beheadings on the town hall square? Not here yet you say? I say tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick!!! Its a two way thing and it isn't going to happen, something has to give.[/p][/quote]Also... I met about 200 hundred jewish people at Auschwitz 1 in Poland... 3 of which had suffered through concentration camps in world war 2. They were lovely people. Yes their religious views are different from mine and they others of us who went, several muslim, hindu and christians. We all put our differences aside and had a long conversation over a cup of tea before visiting the concentration camps and gas chambers that those poor people died in or suffered through. Put religion aside and humanity shines through. Bring religion to the forefront (regardless of the religion) and it brings out the worst in most. That was my point, people's ignorance and lack of tolerance of differing religion and culture causes war.[/p][/quote]Its not religion, its politics that cause war.[/p][/quote]Bin laden was no politician renovatedhouserunner
  • Score: 1

2:56pm Mon 4 Aug 14

JamesK80 says...

Ok, I've read all the Tripe above and at times I found it hilarious and at other times I found it quite disturbing. However, I would like to point out that the problems in the northern towns of integration is not a Muslim issue, it's a Pakistani issue (the towns mentioned above all have a large Pakistani communities, if you were to study and research the towns where, for example, there is large Indian Muslim population then you will find there are no integration issues, same goes for Turkish, Arab and other communities from certain countries where there are a large number of Muslims). The problem with the grooming issue is again not a Muslim issue but again a Pakistani issue ( if you were to look at the statistics of those prosecuted and the towns where grooming gangs operated you will find that 95% of those convicted had Pakistani ancestry and the towns were mainly populated by Pakistani Muslims). The Pakistani community in the whole of Britain need to wake up and smell the **** as they are in denial. There are some Pakistanis that do integrate and have spoken out but they are castigated by the others.
However the integration problem is an inherent problem with all nations, and also the native inhabitants Ladybridge in Bolton for example, its what one would call a middle class area in Bolton, and over 15-20 years ago it was mainly a white indigenous middle class area. However when a FEW non-white families moved in to the area then the local indigenous population began to move out. You can reach your own conclusions as to why but it doesn't take a genius to work it out. However this happens all over the world, in Spain for example where Brits have gone to live and work over the years (Not holiday) they have moved into areas where there were fellow Brits living there, and now these towns are barely recognisable as Spanish towns, you could be easily convince yourself that you were on the South Coast of Britain and not in Spain and this is not just because of the sheer number of Brits there but the cafe's and shops are owned and cater for the Brits, and yes they all speak English as well ( how dare they not learn the native language - sound familiar) Same in Goa, in India, and other countries where Brits have moved to. This equally applies to nationals from other countries. This is human nature, to be with those that you feel comfortable with, its not lack of integration.
Now the problem is what to do about it, do you immerse and embrace it, or vilify the community for any things you can pick on it for, its religion, its language, the way the dress. Personally I embrace it as it makes me a better person and by embracing it means that I don't live my life full of hatred or anger.
Every community has its problems whether its black or white, English or Pakistani, Muslim or Christian, Rich or poor. Don't vilify one community because of what a particular newspaper tells you, or because your mate Dave down the pub says, or because you watched a program on TV, or what you found on the internet. Travel the world and see what its about and you'll see that there are more things to life then your hatred as until someone invents a successful way of teleportation this mass migration of people to and from other countries of the world will continue, and if governments stop it then those who are already here will expand, so get used to it, and if you want to know what's my ethnicity. It's a happy human being, but if you really must know then I'm an indigenous white atheist Brit living in and working in Dubai. Right back to the beach for me :-)
Ok, I've read all the Tripe above and at times I found it hilarious and at other times I found it quite disturbing. However, I would like to point out that the problems in the northern towns of integration is not a Muslim issue, it's a Pakistani issue (the towns mentioned above all have a large Pakistani communities, if you were to study and research the towns where, for example, there is large Indian Muslim population then you will find there are no integration issues, same goes for Turkish, Arab and other communities from certain countries where there are a large number of Muslims). The problem with the grooming issue is again not a Muslim issue but again a Pakistani issue ( if you were to look at the statistics of those prosecuted and the towns where grooming gangs operated you will find that 95% of those convicted had Pakistani ancestry and the towns were mainly populated by Pakistani Muslims). The Pakistani community in the whole of Britain need to wake up and smell the **** as they are in denial. There are some Pakistanis that do integrate and have spoken out but they are castigated by the others. However the integration problem is an inherent problem with all nations, and also the native inhabitants Ladybridge in Bolton for example, its what one would call a middle class area in Bolton, and over 15-20 years ago it was mainly a white indigenous middle class area. However when a FEW non-white families moved in to the area then the local indigenous population began to move out. You can reach your own conclusions as to why but it doesn't take a genius to work it out. However this happens all over the world, in Spain for example where Brits have gone to live and work over the years (Not holiday) they have moved into areas where there were fellow Brits living there, and now these towns are barely recognisable as Spanish towns, you could be easily convince yourself that you were on the South Coast of Britain and not in Spain and this is not just because of the sheer number of Brits there but the cafe's and shops are owned and cater for the Brits, and yes they all speak English as well ( how dare they not learn the native language - sound familiar) Same in Goa, in India, and other countries where Brits have moved to. This equally applies to nationals from other countries. This is human nature, to be with those that you feel comfortable with, its not lack of integration. Now the problem is what to do about it, do you immerse and embrace it, or vilify the community for any things you can pick on it for, its religion, its language, the way the dress. Personally I embrace it as it makes me a better person and by embracing it means that I don't live my life full of hatred or anger. Every community has its problems whether its black or white, English or Pakistani, Muslim or Christian, Rich or poor. Don't vilify one community because of what a particular newspaper tells you, or because your mate Dave down the pub says, or because you watched a program on TV, or what you found on the internet. Travel the world and see what its about and you'll see that there are more things to life then your hatred as until someone invents a successful way of teleportation this mass migration of people to and from other countries of the world will continue, and if governments stop it then those who are already here will expand, so get used to it, and if you want to know what's my ethnicity. It's a happy human being, but if you really must know then I'm an indigenous white atheist Brit living in and working in Dubai. Right back to the beach for me :-) JamesK80
  • Score: 1

3:23pm Mon 4 Aug 14

johnnyjackson says...

renovatedhouserunner wrote:
johnnyjackson wrote:
MissDemocracy wrote:
cliff4treasurer wrote:
johnnyjackson says...


albertmodley wrote:
Do muslim girls ever marry non muslim males, thus proving they genuinely do want integration, bearing mixed race children and partaking in a genuine mixed race multi cultural society or do they or their parents more particularly want to maintain their perceived supper race pure muslim blood status?
I ask the question for the million'th time, what good would the muslims be integrating into? I havent recieved an answer yet.

All I can think of is "getting smashed", being skint and being racist.

Or rather what would us British white Christians be integrating into?

Treating females as second class citizens, making my wife wear a "burka" .Running over from behind a soldier then cutting his throat as he lay unconscious on the floor, videoing me cutting someone's throat and posting it on the internet,
public hangings ? Beheadings on the town hall square? Not here yet you say? I say tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick!!!

Its a two way thing and it isn't going to happen, something has to give.
Also... I met about 200 hundred jewish people at Auschwitz 1 in Poland... 3 of which had suffered through concentration camps in world war 2. They were lovely people. Yes their religious views are different from mine and they others of us who went, several muslim, hindu and christians. We all put our differences aside and had a long conversation over a cup of tea before visiting the concentration camps and gas chambers that those poor people died in or suffered through. Put religion aside and humanity shines through. Bring religion to the forefront (regardless of the religion) and it brings out the worst in most. That was my point, people's ignorance and lack of tolerance of differing religion and culture causes war.
Its not religion, its politics that cause war.
Bin laden was no politician
He worked for the CIA.
[quote][p][bold]renovatedhouserunner[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]johnnyjackson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MissDemocracy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cliff4treasurer[/bold] wrote: johnnyjackson says... albertmodley wrote: Do muslim girls ever marry non muslim males, thus proving they genuinely do want integration, bearing mixed race children and partaking in a genuine mixed race multi cultural society or do they or their parents more particularly want to maintain their perceived supper race pure muslim blood status? I ask the question for the million'th time, what good would the muslims be integrating into? I havent recieved an answer yet. All I can think of is "getting smashed", being skint and being racist. Or rather what would us British white Christians be integrating into? Treating females as second class citizens, making my wife wear a "burka" .Running over from behind a soldier then cutting his throat as he lay unconscious on the floor, videoing me cutting someone's throat and posting it on the internet, public hangings ? Beheadings on the town hall square? Not here yet you say? I say tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick!!! Its a two way thing and it isn't going to happen, something has to give.[/p][/quote]Also... I met about 200 hundred jewish people at Auschwitz 1 in Poland... 3 of which had suffered through concentration camps in world war 2. They were lovely people. Yes their religious views are different from mine and they others of us who went, several muslim, hindu and christians. We all put our differences aside and had a long conversation over a cup of tea before visiting the concentration camps and gas chambers that those poor people died in or suffered through. Put religion aside and humanity shines through. Bring religion to the forefront (regardless of the religion) and it brings out the worst in most. That was my point, people's ignorance and lack of tolerance of differing religion and culture causes war.[/p][/quote]Its not religion, its politics that cause war.[/p][/quote]Bin laden was no politician[/p][/quote]He worked for the CIA. johnnyjackson
  • Score: 2

3:29pm Mon 4 Aug 14

johnnyjackson says...

JamesK80 wrote:
Ok, I've read all the Tripe above and at times I found it hilarious and at other times I found it quite disturbing. However, I would like to point out that the problems in the northern towns of integration is not a Muslim issue, it's a Pakistani issue (the towns mentioned above all have a large Pakistani communities, if you were to study and research the towns where, for example, there is large Indian Muslim population then you will find there are no integration issues, same goes for Turkish, Arab and other communities from certain countries where there are a large number of Muslims). The problem with the grooming issue is again not a Muslim issue but again a Pakistani issue ( if you were to look at the statistics of those prosecuted and the towns where grooming gangs operated you will find that 95% of those convicted had Pakistani ancestry and the towns were mainly populated by Pakistani Muslims). The Pakistani community in the whole of Britain need to wake up and smell the **** as they are in denial. There are some Pakistanis that do integrate and have spoken out but they are castigated by the others.
However the integration problem is an inherent problem with all nations, and also the native inhabitants Ladybridge in Bolton for example, its what one would call a middle class area in Bolton, and over 15-20 years ago it was mainly a white indigenous middle class area. However when a FEW non-white families moved in to the area then the local indigenous population began to move out. You can reach your own conclusions as to why but it doesn't take a genius to work it out. However this happens all over the world, in Spain for example where Brits have gone to live and work over the years (Not holiday) they have moved into areas where there were fellow Brits living there, and now these towns are barely recognisable as Spanish towns, you could be easily convince yourself that you were on the South Coast of Britain and not in Spain and this is not just because of the sheer number of Brits there but the cafe's and shops are owned and cater for the Brits, and yes they all speak English as well ( how dare they not learn the native language - sound familiar) Same in Goa, in India, and other countries where Brits have moved to. This equally applies to nationals from other countries. This is human nature, to be with those that you feel comfortable with, its not lack of integration.
Now the problem is what to do about it, do you immerse and embrace it, or vilify the community for any things you can pick on it for, its religion, its language, the way the dress. Personally I embrace it as it makes me a better person and by embracing it means that I don't live my life full of hatred or anger.
Every community has its problems whether its black or white, English or Pakistani, Muslim or Christian, Rich or poor. Don't vilify one community because of what a particular newspaper tells you, or because your mate Dave down the pub says, or because you watched a program on TV, or what you found on the internet. Travel the world and see what its about and you'll see that there are more things to life then your hatred as until someone invents a successful way of teleportation this mass migration of people to and from other countries of the world will continue, and if governments stop it then those who are already here will expand, so get used to it, and if you want to know what's my ethnicity. It's a happy human being, but if you really must know then I'm an indigenous white atheist Brit living in and working in Dubai. Right back to the beach for me :-)
Beautiful piece. Well put.

I think you'll find the first generation of immigrants from the sub continent find it extremely difficult to integrate due to culture/language barrier. Hence why they usually work for themselves or someone in their community. Never mind integrating with the ENglish, that generation of pakistani or indian community do not even mix amongst each other, they stick to their own.

Further still, they have quite a backward mentailiity whereby they quite often only mix with their cast or village members.

The new generation who are educated at university tend to work as employees for companies and have integrated into the community and hold posts in positions of responsbilites as doctors, dentists, civil servants, nurses etc....
[quote][p][bold]JamesK80[/bold] wrote: Ok, I've read all the Tripe above and at times I found it hilarious and at other times I found it quite disturbing. However, I would like to point out that the problems in the northern towns of integration is not a Muslim issue, it's a Pakistani issue (the towns mentioned above all have a large Pakistani communities, if you were to study and research the towns where, for example, there is large Indian Muslim population then you will find there are no integration issues, same goes for Turkish, Arab and other communities from certain countries where there are a large number of Muslims). The problem with the grooming issue is again not a Muslim issue but again a Pakistani issue ( if you were to look at the statistics of those prosecuted and the towns where grooming gangs operated you will find that 95% of those convicted had Pakistani ancestry and the towns were mainly populated by Pakistani Muslims). The Pakistani community in the whole of Britain need to wake up and smell the **** as they are in denial. There are some Pakistanis that do integrate and have spoken out but they are castigated by the others. However the integration problem is an inherent problem with all nations, and also the native inhabitants Ladybridge in Bolton for example, its what one would call a middle class area in Bolton, and over 15-20 years ago it was mainly a white indigenous middle class area. However when a FEW non-white families moved in to the area then the local indigenous population began to move out. You can reach your own conclusions as to why but it doesn't take a genius to work it out. However this happens all over the world, in Spain for example where Brits have gone to live and work over the years (Not holiday) they have moved into areas where there were fellow Brits living there, and now these towns are barely recognisable as Spanish towns, you could be easily convince yourself that you were on the South Coast of Britain and not in Spain and this is not just because of the sheer number of Brits there but the cafe's and shops are owned and cater for the Brits, and yes they all speak English as well ( how dare they not learn the native language - sound familiar) Same in Goa, in India, and other countries where Brits have moved to. This equally applies to nationals from other countries. This is human nature, to be with those that you feel comfortable with, its not lack of integration. Now the problem is what to do about it, do you immerse and embrace it, or vilify the community for any things you can pick on it for, its religion, its language, the way the dress. Personally I embrace it as it makes me a better person and by embracing it means that I don't live my life full of hatred or anger. Every community has its problems whether its black or white, English or Pakistani, Muslim or Christian, Rich or poor. Don't vilify one community because of what a particular newspaper tells you, or because your mate Dave down the pub says, or because you watched a program on TV, or what you found on the internet. Travel the world and see what its about and you'll see that there are more things to life then your hatred as until someone invents a successful way of teleportation this mass migration of people to and from other countries of the world will continue, and if governments stop it then those who are already here will expand, so get used to it, and if you want to know what's my ethnicity. It's a happy human being, but if you really must know then I'm an indigenous white atheist Brit living in and working in Dubai. Right back to the beach for me :-)[/p][/quote]Beautiful piece. Well put. I think you'll find the first generation of immigrants from the sub continent find it extremely difficult to integrate due to culture/language barrier. Hence why they usually work for themselves or someone in their community. Never mind integrating with the ENglish, that generation of pakistani or indian community do not even mix amongst each other, they stick to their own. Further still, they have quite a backward mentailiity whereby they quite often only mix with their cast or village members. The new generation who are educated at university tend to work as employees for companies and have integrated into the community and hold posts in positions of responsbilites as doctors, dentists, civil servants, nurses etc.... johnnyjackson
  • Score: 1

6:08pm Mon 4 Aug 14

garyengland says...

tommytheinfadel wrote:
well i for one have lodged a complaint against julian thorpe for labelling people infadels and racial profiling, racism and hate crimes

this is illegal and is racist

i attended the rally, and i am a 40 year old solicitor from bolton, and appear in photos labelling me an infadel by julian thorpe, i have no connection with the group at all. your racial hatrad and illegal racial profiling is like labelling muslim protests as al queda ( just incase there was a al queda member there )............. you are a total disgrace and i am seriously offended by your article and will ensure you no longer work as a editor ever again, you are disgusting and racist !!!

i will be pursuing charges personally against him and have been in contact with newsquest today, sending them the photos where i am labelled a infadel

i will accept nothing more than his resignation or dismissal and will ensure this article is the last he rubber stamps in his life

see you soon julian

Timothy
Hi Tom,

As a (pretend) solicitor, I am offended you can neither spell Infidel or use punctuation. Did you buy your law degree from Poundland?
[quote][p][bold]tommytheinfadel[/bold] wrote: well i for one have lodged a complaint against julian thorpe for labelling people infadels and racial profiling, racism and hate crimes this is illegal and is racist i attended the rally, and i am a 40 year old solicitor from bolton, and appear in photos labelling me an infadel by julian thorpe, i have no connection with the group at all. your racial hatrad and illegal racial profiling is like labelling muslim protests as al queda ( just incase there was a al queda member there )............. you are a total disgrace and i am seriously offended by your article and will ensure you no longer work as a editor ever again, you are disgusting and racist !!! i will be pursuing charges personally against him and have been in contact with newsquest today, sending them the photos where i am labelled a infadel i will accept nothing more than his resignation or dismissal and will ensure this article is the last he rubber stamps in his life see you soon julian Timothy[/p][/quote]Hi Tom, As a (pretend) solicitor, I am offended you can neither spell Infidel or use punctuation. Did you buy your law degree from Poundland? garyengland
  • Score: 2

6:44pm Mon 4 Aug 14

DAUBHILLISRUINED says...

JamesK80 says...
Spain for example where Brits have gone to live and work over the years (Not holiday) they have moved into areas where there were fellow Brits living there, and now these towns are barely recognisable as Spanish towns, you could be easily convince yourself that you were on the South Coast of Britain and not in Spain.



Is it any wonder they have left the uk to settle in other countries after what they have seen happening over here.
in spain you only get employment allowance for i think is 2 years, whether your indiginous or not, so it applies to everyone, unlike here where if you are coming here to no job you are guaranteed some sort of housing be it social or private.
Not to mention free nhs, schools, doctors, council tax, rent mobility cars, ETC,ETC just like the people near me who landed here from africa 5 years ago 4 living in their council house never worked 1 day since they got here as they have told me and the neighbours ( but not in a bragging way, i don't think so anyway ) and yet are earning more than the 3 people in same street very near them , 1 gets up at 2 am to go work, another has two jobs, and the other starts at 6 am.
So don't give me all that **** mister, the system is so wrong for allowing this to happen i know all that but it don't make it right or fair.
It's like mini africa where i live and not 20 doors away another african family ( seems like 10 living there dumping rubbish outside their front door and noise all day and night a lot of the time when others have to get up at all hours and go to work,, it's disgraceful how they dump them all round here i have lived here 24 years now and got on with everyone up till now... but enough is enough, they come from ****-holes and treat this street and country the same.
Is it any wonder people feel so aggrieved and disconsolate with the state of this counry now as it is.
WE ARE THE DUMPING GROUND FOR THE REST OF THE WORLD NOW, and it's only a matter of time before it causes riots or worse round here, mark my words the clock is ticking.
JamesK80 says... Spain for example where Brits have gone to live and work over the years (Not holiday) they have moved into areas where there were fellow Brits living there, and now these towns are barely recognisable as Spanish towns, you could be easily convince yourself that you were on the South Coast of Britain and not in Spain. Is it any wonder they have left the uk to settle in other countries after what they have seen happening over here. in spain you only get employment allowance for i think is 2 years, whether your indiginous or not, so it applies to everyone, unlike here where if you are coming here to no job you are guaranteed some sort of housing be it social or private. Not to mention free nhs, schools, doctors, council tax, rent mobility cars, ETC,ETC just like the people near me who landed here from africa 5 years ago 4 living in their council house never worked 1 day since they got here as they have told me and the neighbours ( but not in a bragging way, i don't think so anyway ) and yet are earning more than the 3 people in same street very near them , 1 gets up at 2 am to go work, another has two jobs, and the other starts at 6 am. So don't give me all that **** mister, the system is so wrong for allowing this to happen i know all that but it don't make it right or fair. It's like mini africa where i live and not 20 doors away another african family ( seems like 10 living there dumping rubbish outside their front door and noise all day and night a lot of the time when others have to get up at all hours and go to work,, it's disgraceful how they dump them all round here i have lived here 24 years now and got on with everyone up till now... but enough is enough, they come from ****-holes and treat this street and country the same. Is it any wonder people feel so aggrieved and disconsolate with the state of this counry now as it is. WE ARE THE DUMPING GROUND FOR THE REST OF THE WORLD NOW, and it's only a matter of time before it causes riots or worse round here, mark my words the clock is ticking. DAUBHILLISRUINED
  • Score: 3

8:07pm Mon 4 Aug 14

Tim Burr says...

It is a criminal offence for someone to call themselves a solicitor or act as a solicitor if they are not on the roll of solicitors.
It is a criminal offence for someone to call themselves a solicitor or act as a solicitor if they are not on the roll of solicitors. Tim Burr
  • Score: 2

8:08pm Mon 4 Aug 14

renovatedhouserunner says...

johnnyjackson wrote:
renovatedhouserunner wrote:
johnnyjackson wrote:
MissDemocracy wrote:
cliff4treasurer wrote:
johnnyjackson says...


albertmodley wrote:
Do muslim girls ever marry non muslim males, thus proving they genuinely do want integration, bearing mixed race children and partaking in a genuine mixed race multi cultural society or do they or their parents more particularly want to maintain their perceived supper race pure muslim blood status?
I ask the question for the million'th time, what good would the muslims be integrating into? I havent recieved an answer yet.

All I can think of is "getting smashed", being skint and being racist.

Or rather what would us British white Christians be integrating into?

Treating females as second class citizens, making my wife wear a "burka" .Running over from behind a soldier then cutting his throat as he lay unconscious on the floor, videoing me cutting someone's throat and posting it on the internet,
public hangings ? Beheadings on the town hall square? Not here yet you say? I say tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick!!!

Its a two way thing and it isn't going to happen, something has to give.
Also... I met about 200 hundred jewish people at Auschwitz 1 in Poland... 3 of which had suffered through concentration camps in world war 2. They were lovely people. Yes their religious views are different from mine and they others of us who went, several muslim, hindu and christians. We all put our differences aside and had a long conversation over a cup of tea before visiting the concentration camps and gas chambers that those poor people died in or suffered through. Put religion aside and humanity shines through. Bring religion to the forefront (regardless of the religion) and it brings out the worst in most. That was my point, people's ignorance and lack of tolerance of differing religion and culture causes war.
Its not religion, its politics that cause war.
Bin laden was no politician
He worked for the CIA.
So you're saying the cia paid him to crash planes into their own buildings? Get real
[quote][p][bold]johnnyjackson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]renovatedhouserunner[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]johnnyjackson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MissDemocracy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cliff4treasurer[/bold] wrote: johnnyjackson says... albertmodley wrote: Do muslim girls ever marry non muslim males, thus proving they genuinely do want integration, bearing mixed race children and partaking in a genuine mixed race multi cultural society or do they or their parents more particularly want to maintain their perceived supper race pure muslim blood status? I ask the question for the million'th time, what good would the muslims be integrating into? I havent recieved an answer yet. All I can think of is "getting smashed", being skint and being racist. Or rather what would us British white Christians be integrating into? Treating females as second class citizens, making my wife wear a "burka" .Running over from behind a soldier then cutting his throat as he lay unconscious on the floor, videoing me cutting someone's throat and posting it on the internet, public hangings ? Beheadings on the town hall square? Not here yet you say? I say tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick!!! Its a two way thing and it isn't going to happen, something has to give.[/p][/quote]Also... I met about 200 hundred jewish people at Auschwitz 1 in Poland... 3 of which had suffered through concentration camps in world war 2. They were lovely people. Yes their religious views are different from mine and they others of us who went, several muslim, hindu and christians. We all put our differences aside and had a long conversation over a cup of tea before visiting the concentration camps and gas chambers that those poor people died in or suffered through. Put religion aside and humanity shines through. Bring religion to the forefront (regardless of the religion) and it brings out the worst in most. That was my point, people's ignorance and lack of tolerance of differing religion and culture causes war.[/p][/quote]Its not religion, its politics that cause war.[/p][/quote]Bin laden was no politician[/p][/quote]He worked for the CIA.[/p][/quote]So you're saying the cia paid him to crash planes into their own buildings? Get real renovatedhouserunner
  • Score: 1

8:15pm Mon 4 Aug 14

Tim Burr says...

Bin Laden worked for the Israeli's. Anjem Choudry, is on MI5's payroll.
Bin Laden worked for the Israeli's. Anjem Choudry, is on MI5's payroll. Tim Burr
  • Score: 14

8:39pm Mon 4 Aug 14

albertmodley says...

johnnyjackson wrote:
albertmodley wrote:
Do muslim girls ever marry non muslim males, thus proving they genuinely do want integration, bearing mixed race children and partaking in a genuine mixed race multi cultural society or do they or their parents more particularly want to maintain their perceived supper race pure muslim blood status?
I ask the question for the million'th time, what good would the muslims be integrating into? I havent recieved an answer yet.

All I can think of is "getting smashed", being skint and being racist.
Excellent, thanks for that.Sorry i cant answer your queries but by implication you have answered mine, which are:
No, Muslim girls do not marry non muslims.
No they do not want integration, bearing mixed race children.
No they do not want a genuine multicultural society
Yes they want to maintain their perceived status as a super race with only pure muslim blood in it.
Thanks for the clarification.
[quote][p][bold]johnnyjackson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]albertmodley[/bold] wrote: Do muslim girls ever marry non muslim males, thus proving they genuinely do want integration, bearing mixed race children and partaking in a genuine mixed race multi cultural society or do they or their parents more particularly want to maintain their perceived supper race pure muslim blood status?[/p][/quote]I ask the question for the million'th time, what good would the muslims be integrating into? I havent recieved an answer yet. All I can think of is "getting smashed", being skint and being racist.[/p][/quote]Excellent, thanks for that.Sorry i cant answer your queries but by implication you have answered mine, which are: No, Muslim girls do not marry non muslims. No they do not want integration, bearing mixed race children. No they do not want a genuine multicultural society Yes they want to maintain their perceived status as a super race with only pure muslim blood in it. Thanks for the clarification. albertmodley
  • Score: 0

8:43pm Mon 4 Aug 14

Tim Burr says...

albertmodley wrote:
johnnyjackson wrote:
albertmodley wrote:
Do muslim girls ever marry non muslim males, thus proving they genuinely do want integration, bearing mixed race children and partaking in a genuine mixed race multi cultural society or do they or their parents more particularly want to maintain their perceived supper race pure muslim blood status?
I ask the question for the million'th time, what good would the muslims be integrating into? I havent recieved an answer yet.

All I can think of is "getting smashed", being skint and being racist.
Excellent, thanks for that.Sorry i cant answer your queries but by implication you have answered mine, which are:
No, Muslim girls do not marry non muslims.
No they do not want integration, bearing mixed race children.
No they do not want a genuine multicultural society
Yes they want to maintain their perceived status as a super race with only pure muslim blood in it.
Thanks for the clarification.
Is that similar to Jewish girls not being allowed to marry outside their faith?


Devarim (Deuteronomy) Chapter 7
3. You shall not intermarry with them; you shall not give your daughter to his son, and you shall not take his daughter for your son. ג. וְלֹא תִתְחַתֵּן בָּם בִּתְּךָ לֹא תִתֵּן לִבְנוֹ וּבִתּוֹ לֹא תִקַּח לִבְנֶךָ:
[quote][p][bold]albertmodley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]johnnyjackson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]albertmodley[/bold] wrote: Do muslim girls ever marry non muslim males, thus proving they genuinely do want integration, bearing mixed race children and partaking in a genuine mixed race multi cultural society or do they or their parents more particularly want to maintain their perceived supper race pure muslim blood status?[/p][/quote]I ask the question for the million'th time, what good would the muslims be integrating into? I havent recieved an answer yet. All I can think of is "getting smashed", being skint and being racist.[/p][/quote]Excellent, thanks for that.Sorry i cant answer your queries but by implication you have answered mine, which are: No, Muslim girls do not marry non muslims. No they do not want integration, bearing mixed race children. No they do not want a genuine multicultural society Yes they want to maintain their perceived status as a super race with only pure muslim blood in it. Thanks for the clarification.[/p][/quote]Is that similar to Jewish girls not being allowed to marry outside their faith? Devarim (Deuteronomy) Chapter 7 3. You shall not intermarry with them; you shall not give your daughter to his son, and you shall not take his daughter for your son. ג. וְלֹא תִתְחַתֵּן בָּם בִּתְּךָ לֹא תִתֵּן לִבְנוֹ וּבִתּוֹ לֹא תִקַּח לִבְנֶךָ: Tim Burr
  • Score: 5

8:55pm Mon 4 Aug 14

JohnTheBaptist says...

longballs r us wrote:
Phil from Smithills wrote:
It would appear your use of the word " Zionists " is said in an offensive way, just as anyone using the "P" word.
I would suggest you Google Jeremy Bowen who is BBC Middle East editor and read what he has to say about Hamas using human shields.
Watching CNN , Fox News who is run by Zionist ( not Jews) have a set agenda on how to give news to the masses.
They are known to fire reporters who do not follow the protocol set out to them.
Jeremy bowen the bbc middle.east new reporter has been removed from gaza as he states "he saw no evidence Of hamas using the gazans as human shields."

Get your facts right before posting as you make yourself look very stupid.
[quote][p][bold]longballs r us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Phil from Smithills[/bold] wrote: It would appear your use of the word " Zionists " is said in an offensive way, just as anyone using the "P" word.[/p][/quote]I would suggest you Google Jeremy Bowen who is BBC Middle East editor and read what he has to say about Hamas using human shields. Watching CNN , Fox News who is run by Zionist ( not Jews) have a set agenda on how to give news to the masses. They are known to fire reporters who do not follow the protocol set out to them.[/p][/quote]Jeremy bowen the bbc middle.east new reporter has been removed from gaza as he states "he saw no evidence Of hamas using the gazans as human shields." Get your facts right before posting as you make yourself look very stupid. JohnTheBaptist
  • Score: -5

8:58pm Mon 4 Aug 14

JohnTheBaptist says...

renovatedhouserunner wrote:
johnnyjackson wrote:
renovatedhouserunner wrote:
johnnyjackson wrote:
MissDemocracy wrote:
cliff4treasurer wrote:
johnnyjackson says...


albertmodley wrote:
Do muslim girls ever marry non muslim males, thus proving they genuinely do want integration, bearing mixed race children and partaking in a genuine mixed race multi cultural society or do they or their parents more particularly want to maintain their perceived supper race pure muslim blood status?
I ask the question for the million'th time, what good would the muslims be integrating into? I havent recieved an answer yet.

All I can think of is "getting smashed", being skint and being racist.

Or rather what would us British white Christians be integrating into?

Treating females as second class citizens, making my wife wear a "burka" .Running over from behind a soldier then cutting his throat as he lay unconscious on the floor, videoing me cutting someone's throat and posting it on the internet,
public hangings ? Beheadings on the town hall square? Not here yet you say? I say tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick!!!

Its a two way thing and it isn't going to happen, something has to give.
Also... I met about 200 hundred jewish people at Auschwitz 1 in Poland... 3 of which had suffered through concentration camps in world war 2. They were lovely people. Yes their religious views are different from mine and they others of us who went, several muslim, hindu and christians. We all put our differences aside and had a long conversation over a cup of tea before visiting the concentration camps and gas chambers that those poor people died in or suffered through. Put religion aside and humanity shines through. Bring religion to the forefront (regardless of the religion) and it brings out the worst in most. That was my point, people's ignorance and lack of tolerance of differing religion and culture causes war.
Its not religion, its politics that cause war.
Bin laden was no politician
He worked for the CIA.
So you're saying the cia paid him to crash planes into their own buildings? Get real
Does bush now call himself bin laden?
[quote][p][bold]renovatedhouserunner[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]johnnyjackson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]renovatedhouserunner[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]johnnyjackson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MissDemocracy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cliff4treasurer[/bold] wrote: johnnyjackson says... albertmodley wrote: Do muslim girls ever marry non muslim males, thus proving they genuinely do want integration, bearing mixed race children and partaking in a genuine mixed race multi cultural society or do they or their parents more particularly want to maintain their perceived supper race pure muslim blood status? I ask the question for the million'th time, what good would the muslims be integrating into? I havent recieved an answer yet. All I can think of is "getting smashed", being skint and being racist. Or rather what would us British white Christians be integrating into? Treating females as second class citizens, making my wife wear a "burka" .Running over from behind a soldier then cutting his throat as he lay unconscious on the floor, videoing me cutting someone's throat and posting it on the internet, public hangings ? Beheadings on the town hall square? Not here yet you say? I say tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick!!! Its a two way thing and it isn't going to happen, something has to give.[/p][/quote]Also... I met about 200 hundred jewish people at Auschwitz 1 in Poland... 3 of which had suffered through concentration camps in world war 2. They were lovely people. Yes their religious views are different from mine and they others of us who went, several muslim, hindu and christians. We all put our differences aside and had a long conversation over a cup of tea before visiting the concentration camps and gas chambers that those poor people died in or suffered through. Put religion aside and humanity shines through. Bring religion to the forefront (regardless of the religion) and it brings out the worst in most. That was my point, people's ignorance and lack of tolerance of differing religion and culture causes war.[/p][/quote]Its not religion, its politics that cause war.[/p][/quote]Bin laden was no politician[/p][/quote]He worked for the CIA.[/p][/quote]So you're saying the cia paid him to crash planes into their own buildings? Get real[/p][/quote]Does bush now call himself bin laden? JohnTheBaptist
  • Score: -1

9:01pm Mon 4 Aug 14

Tim Burr says...

JohnTheBaptist wrote:
longballs r us wrote:
Phil from Smithills wrote:
It would appear your use of the word " Zionists " is said in an offensive way, just as anyone using the "P" word.
I would suggest you Google Jeremy Bowen who is BBC Middle East editor and read what he has to say about Hamas using human shields.
Watching CNN , Fox News who is run by Zionist ( not Jews) have a set agenda on how to give news to the masses.
They are known to fire reporters who do not follow the protocol set out to them.
Jeremy bowen the bbc middle.east new reporter has been removed from gaza as he states "he saw no evidence Of hamas using the gazans as human shields."

Get your facts right before posting as you make yourself look very stupid.
Some would advise you not to believe everything you read on the Internet. Better advice: Take everything with a grain of salt, and research every claim that seems extraordinary.

On Sunday, hundreds of social media users began redistributing a crudely-formed graphic that claimed senior BBC correspondent Jeremy Bowen had been pulled from Gaza City by the television network over a recently-published story in which Bowen denied seeing any evidence that Palestinian militants were using civilians as a human shield.

However the fact that Bowen is on holiday was overlooked by the Zionist news agency behind the bogus report.
[quote][p][bold]JohnTheBaptist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]longballs r us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Phil from Smithills[/bold] wrote: It would appear your use of the word " Zionists " is said in an offensive way, just as anyone using the "P" word.[/p][/quote]I would suggest you Google Jeremy Bowen who is BBC Middle East editor and read what he has to say about Hamas using human shields. Watching CNN , Fox News who is run by Zionist ( not Jews) have a set agenda on how to give news to the masses. They are known to fire reporters who do not follow the protocol set out to them.[/p][/quote]Jeremy bowen the bbc middle.east new reporter has been removed from gaza as he states "he saw no evidence Of hamas using the gazans as human shields." Get your facts right before posting as you make yourself look very stupid.[/p][/quote]Some would advise you not to believe everything you read on the Internet. Better advice: Take everything with a grain of salt, and research every claim that seems extraordinary. On Sunday, hundreds of social media users began redistributing a crudely-formed graphic that claimed senior BBC correspondent Jeremy Bowen had been pulled from Gaza City by the television network over a recently-published story in which Bowen denied seeing any evidence that Palestinian militants were using civilians as a human shield. However the fact that Bowen is on holiday was overlooked by the Zionist news agency behind the bogus report. Tim Burr
  • Score: 0

10:25pm Mon 4 Aug 14

Tim Burr says...

I forgot to mention - allegedly Osama Bin Laden was Jewish BTW.
I forgot to mention - allegedly Osama Bin Laden was Jewish BTW. Tim Burr
  • Score: 0

10:28pm Mon 4 Aug 14

albertmodley says...

Tim Burr wrote:
albertmodley wrote:
johnnyjackson wrote:
albertmodley wrote:
Do muslim girls ever marry non muslim males, thus proving they genuinely do want integration, bearing mixed race children and partaking in a genuine mixed race multi cultural society or do they or their parents more particularly want to maintain their perceived supper race pure muslim blood status?
I ask the question for the million'th time, what good would the muslims be integrating into? I havent recieved an answer yet.

All I can think of is "getting smashed", being skint and being racist.
Excellent, thanks for that.Sorry i cant answer your queries but by implication you have answered mine, which are:
No, Muslim girls do not marry non muslims.
No they do not want integration, bearing mixed race children.
No they do not want a genuine multicultural society
Yes they want to maintain their perceived status as a super race with only pure muslim blood in it.
Thanks for the clarification.
Is that similar to Jewish girls not being allowed to marry outside their faith?


Devarim (Deuteronomy) Chapter 7
3. You shall not intermarry with them; you shall not give your daughter to his son, and you shall not take his daughter for your son. ג. וְלֹא תִתְחַתֵּן בָּם בִּתְּךָ לֹא תִתֵּן לִבְנוֹ וּבִתּוֹ לֹא תִקַּח לִבְנֶךָ:
Doubt it.Dont remember reading about jewish Girls being flown out to Israel against their wishes to enter into forced marriages.Au contraire my friend jewish girls like Edwina Currie(Cohen) or Esther Rantzen to name but two have taken gentile Husbands.
Dont think I have read of so called honour killings in the jewish Community, but no doubt you will trawl something from somewhere
[quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]albertmodley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]johnnyjackson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]albertmodley[/bold] wrote: Do muslim girls ever marry non muslim males, thus proving they genuinely do want integration, bearing mixed race children and partaking in a genuine mixed race multi cultural society or do they or their parents more particularly want to maintain their perceived supper race pure muslim blood status?[/p][/quote]I ask the question for the million'th time, what good would the muslims be integrating into? I havent recieved an answer yet. All I can think of is "getting smashed", being skint and being racist.[/p][/quote]Excellent, thanks for that.Sorry i cant answer your queries but by implication you have answered mine, which are: No, Muslim girls do not marry non muslims. No they do not want integration, bearing mixed race children. No they do not want a genuine multicultural society Yes they want to maintain their perceived status as a super race with only pure muslim blood in it. Thanks for the clarification.[/p][/quote]Is that similar to Jewish girls not being allowed to marry outside their faith? Devarim (Deuteronomy) Chapter 7 3. You shall not intermarry with them; you shall not give your daughter to his son, and you shall not take his daughter for your son. ג. וְלֹא תִתְחַתֵּן בָּם בִּתְּךָ לֹא תִתֵּן לִבְנוֹ וּבִתּוֹ לֹא תִקַּח לִבְנֶךָ:[/p][/quote]Doubt it.Dont remember reading about jewish Girls being flown out to Israel against their wishes to enter into forced marriages.Au contraire my friend jewish girls like Edwina Currie(Cohen) or Esther Rantzen to name but two have taken gentile Husbands. Dont think I have read of so called honour killings in the jewish Community, but no doubt you will trawl something from somewhere albertmodley
  • Score: 1

10:33pm Mon 4 Aug 14

Tim Burr says...

Of course you'd doubt it - you're a zionist troll ' Albert'. Great name choice btw, shame you don't live up to it,
Of course you'd doubt it - you're a zionist troll ' Albert'. Great name choice btw, shame you don't live up to it, Tim Burr
  • Score: 1

10:38pm Mon 4 Aug 14

Tim Burr says...

"Under-aged girls were forced to marry older members of the ultra-Orthodox Lev Tahor sect in Canada, newly unsealed Quebec police documents claim.

According to the documents, which were unsealed on Friday on the request of several Canadian media outlets, children were brought from other countries into Canada to be married with members of the Lev Tahor sect. The Globe and Mail, a Toronto-based publication, reported that the documents are part of applications for search warrants.

The documents detail allegations of assault and sexual abuse against members of the sect, claiming one young woman said she was hit with a belt and a coat hanger and another told nurses at a hospital she was beaten by her brother, sexually abused by her father and forced to marry a man twice her at the age of 15, the report said."
"Under-aged girls were forced to marry older members of the ultra-Orthodox Lev Tahor sect in Canada, newly unsealed Quebec police documents claim. According to the documents, which were unsealed on Friday on the request of several Canadian media outlets, children were brought from other countries into Canada to be married with members of the Lev Tahor sect. The Globe and Mail, a Toronto-based publication, reported that the documents are part of applications for search warrants. The documents detail allegations of assault and sexual abuse against members of the sect, claiming one young woman said she was hit with a belt and a coat hanger and another told nurses at a hospital she was beaten by her brother, sexually abused by her father and forced to marry a man twice her at the age of 15, the report said." Tim Burr
  • Score: 2

10:53pm Mon 4 Aug 14

Happytraveller says...

Tim Burr wrote:
"Under-aged girls were forced to marry older members of the ultra-Orthodox Lev Tahor sect in Canada, newly unsealed Quebec police documents claim.

According to the documents, which were unsealed on Friday on the request of several Canadian media outlets, children were brought from other countries into Canada to be married with members of the Lev Tahor sect. The Globe and Mail, a Toronto-based publication, reported that the documents are part of applications for search warrants.

The documents detail allegations of assault and sexual abuse against members of the sect, claiming one young woman said she was hit with a belt and a coat hanger and another told nurses at a hospital she was beaten by her brother, sexually abused by her father and forced to marry a man twice her at the age of 15, the report said."
One of the issues is Democracy or should I say lack of it. There is something seriously wrong when the majority vote goes against the proposal, or any proposal, and it still gets the go ahead, dare I say a few nests haves been feathered.
[quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: "Under-aged girls were forced to marry older members of the ultra-Orthodox Lev Tahor sect in Canada, newly unsealed Quebec police documents claim. According to the documents, which were unsealed on Friday on the request of several Canadian media outlets, children were brought from other countries into Canada to be married with members of the Lev Tahor sect. The Globe and Mail, a Toronto-based publication, reported that the documents are part of applications for search warrants. The documents detail allegations of assault and sexual abuse against members of the sect, claiming one young woman said she was hit with a belt and a coat hanger and another told nurses at a hospital she was beaten by her brother, sexually abused by her father and forced to marry a man twice her at the age of 15, the report said."[/p][/quote]One of the issues is Democracy or should I say lack of it. There is something seriously wrong when the majority vote goes against the proposal, or any proposal, and it still gets the go ahead, dare I say a few nests haves been feathered. Happytraveller
  • Score: 4

10:57pm Mon 4 Aug 14

Tim Burr says...

Happytraveller - just joined, welcome.
Happytraveller - just joined, welcome. Tim Burr
  • Score: -1

10:59pm Mon 4 Aug 14

JohnTheBaptist says...

Tim Burr wrote:
"Under-aged girls were forced to marry older members of the ultra-Orthodox Lev Tahor sect in Canada, newly unsealed Quebec police documents claim.

According to the documents, which were unsealed on Friday on the request of several Canadian media outlets, children were brought from other countries into Canada to be married with members of the Lev Tahor sect. The Globe and Mail, a Toronto-based publication, reported that the documents are part of applications for search warrants.

The documents detail allegations of assault and sexual abuse against members of the sect, claiming one young woman said she was hit with a belt and a coat hanger and another told nurses at a hospital she was beaten by her brother, sexually abused by her father and forced to marry a man twice her at the age of 15, the report said."
Disgusting.
[quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: "Under-aged girls were forced to marry older members of the ultra-Orthodox Lev Tahor sect in Canada, newly unsealed Quebec police documents claim. According to the documents, which were unsealed on Friday on the request of several Canadian media outlets, children were brought from other countries into Canada to be married with members of the Lev Tahor sect. The Globe and Mail, a Toronto-based publication, reported that the documents are part of applications for search warrants. The documents detail allegations of assault and sexual abuse against members of the sect, claiming one young woman said she was hit with a belt and a coat hanger and another told nurses at a hospital she was beaten by her brother, sexually abused by her father and forced to marry a man twice her at the age of 15, the report said."[/p][/quote]Disgusting. JohnTheBaptist
  • Score: 1

1:00am Tue 5 Aug 14

Reality50 says...

21 of the 23 wars/conflicts in the world currently involve Islam. That statistic says it all really.
21 of the 23 wars/conflicts in the world currently involve Islam. That statistic says it all really. Reality50
  • Score: 2

1:09am Tue 5 Aug 14

Realist_65 says...

Beyond News Forum wrote:
Citizen Cane wrote:
pradagucci wrote:
Lynn57 wrote:
There was a march today in London which was not reported by the BBC or the newspapers but it is circulating on Facebook. Muslims have been going around London carrying placards with slogans as follows. "Prepare for a European 9 11" "non Islam people should be beheaded" and other slogans designed to incite racial hatred. The pictures show a policeman standing by doing precisely nothing. This is not our country anymore.
Prove it. Such a protest in 2014 cannot go undetected???????
...do you deny the reported and documented pictures of a young muslim male in London a few weeks ago with a scrawled statement saying "Hitler was right" (targeted at the Jewish community) - racist : yes?

- do you deny the documented increase in hate crimes by young muslim men against Jewish people and synagogues in the UK, including in Manchester?

...neither of these have gone undetected
That is not what is being argued about... yes those happened and are real and largely went unpublished.

The link we want is that of the apparent protest from today.

I'm with you Cane but if somebody wants to get a point across, then it should be valid, linkable and not BS.

If it did happen today... I want that link. My people do not shirk from the truth whether it is a Christian Crusade or a Jihad on behalf of a false flag operation for America against a legally and democratically voted for president in Syria.

Why BS? There is no point... it makes the poster sound like an idiot... but they are anons so it matters not!
It's all BS mate!

http://www.hoax-slay
er.com/muslim-protes
t-london.shtml
[quote][p][bold]Beyond News Forum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Citizen Cane[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pradagucci[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lynn57[/bold] wrote: There was a march today in London which was not reported by the BBC or the newspapers but it is circulating on Facebook. Muslims have been going around London carrying placards with slogans as follows. "Prepare for a European 9 11" "non Islam people should be beheaded" and other slogans designed to incite racial hatred. The pictures show a policeman standing by doing precisely nothing. This is not our country anymore.[/p][/quote]Prove it. Such a protest in 2014 cannot go undetected???????[/p][/quote]...do you deny the reported and documented pictures of a young muslim male in London a few weeks ago with a scrawled statement saying "Hitler was right" (targeted at the Jewish community) - racist : yes? - do you deny the documented increase in hate crimes by young muslim men against Jewish people and synagogues in the UK, including in Manchester? ...neither of these have gone undetected[/p][/quote]That is not what is being argued about... yes those happened and are real and largely went unpublished. The link we want is that of the apparent protest from today. I'm with you Cane but if somebody wants to get a point across, then it should be valid, linkable and not BS. If it did happen today... I want that link. My people do not shirk from the truth whether it is a Christian Crusade or a Jihad on behalf of a false flag operation for America against a legally and democratically voted for president in Syria. Why BS? There is no point... it makes the poster sound like an idiot... but they are anons so it matters not![/p][/quote]It's all BS mate! http://www.hoax-slay er.com/muslim-protes t-london.shtml Realist_65
  • Score: 0

1:10am Tue 5 Aug 14

Realist_65 says...

Beyond News Forum wrote:
Citizen Cane wrote:
pradagucci wrote:
Lynn57 wrote:
There was a march today in London which was not reported by the BBC or the newspapers but it is circulating on Facebook. Muslims have been going around London carrying placards with slogans as follows. "Prepare for a European 9 11It's all BS!

http://www.hoax-slay
er.com/muslim-protes
t-london.shtml
[quote][p][bold]Beyond News Forum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Citizen Cane[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pradagucci[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lynn57[/bold] wrote: There was a march today in London which was not reported by the BBC or the newspapers but it is circulating on Facebook. Muslims have been going around London carrying placards with slogans as follows. "Prepare for a European 9 11It's all BS! http://www.hoax-slay er.com/muslim-protes t-london.shtml Realist_65
  • Score: 0

6:27am Tue 5 Aug 14

Dirty Hamed says...

Tim Burr wrote:
"Under-aged girls were forced to marry older members of the ultra-Orthodox Lev Tahor sect in Canada, newly unsealed Quebec police documents claim.

According to the documents, which were unsealed on Friday on the request of several Canadian media outlets, children were brought from other countries into Canada to be married with members of the Lev Tahor sect. The Globe and Mail, a Toronto-based publication, reported that the documents are part of applications for search warrants.

The documents detail allegations of assault and sexual abuse against members of the sect, claiming one young woman said she was hit with a belt and a coat hanger and another told nurses at a hospital she was beaten by her brother, sexually abused by her father and forced to marry a man twice her at the age of 15, the report said."
Whatever your name is you are an Rsole .
Oh and a traitor...
[quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: "Under-aged girls were forced to marry older members of the ultra-Orthodox Lev Tahor sect in Canada, newly unsealed Quebec police documents claim. According to the documents, which were unsealed on Friday on the request of several Canadian media outlets, children were brought from other countries into Canada to be married with members of the Lev Tahor sect. The Globe and Mail, a Toronto-based publication, reported that the documents are part of applications for search warrants. The documents detail allegations of assault and sexual abuse against members of the sect, claiming one young woman said she was hit with a belt and a coat hanger and another told nurses at a hospital she was beaten by her brother, sexually abused by her father and forced to marry a man twice her at the age of 15, the report said."[/p][/quote]Whatever your name is you are an Rsole . Oh and a traitor... Dirty Hamed
  • Score: 1

8:10am Tue 5 Aug 14

JohnTheBaptist says...

Dirty Hamed wrote:
Tim Burr wrote:
"Under-aged girls were forced to marry older members of the ultra-Orthodox Lev Tahor sect in Canada, newly unsealed Quebec police documents claim.

According to the documents, which were unsealed on Friday on the request of several Canadian media outlets, children were brought from other countries into Canada to be married with members of the Lev Tahor sect. The Globe and Mail, a Toronto-based publication, reported that the documents are part of applications for search warrants.

The documents detail allegations of assault and sexual abuse against members of the sect, claiming one young woman said she was hit with a belt and a coat hanger and another told nurses at a hospital she was beaten by her brother, sexually abused by her father and forced to marry a man twice her at the age of 15, the report said."
Whatever your name is you are an Rsole .
Oh and a traitor...
The truth hurts doesnt it dirty man? You should join the lev tahor sect
[quote][p][bold]Dirty Hamed[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: "Under-aged girls were forced to marry older members of the ultra-Orthodox Lev Tahor sect in Canada, newly unsealed Quebec police documents claim. According to the documents, which were unsealed on Friday on the request of several Canadian media outlets, children were brought from other countries into Canada to be married with members of the Lev Tahor sect. The Globe and Mail, a Toronto-based publication, reported that the documents are part of applications for search warrants. The documents detail allegations of assault and sexual abuse against members of the sect, claiming one young woman said she was hit with a belt and a coat hanger and another told nurses at a hospital she was beaten by her brother, sexually abused by her father and forced to marry a man twice her at the age of 15, the report said."[/p][/quote]Whatever your name is you are an Rsole . Oh and a traitor...[/p][/quote]The truth hurts doesnt it dirty man? You should join the lev tahor sect JohnTheBaptist
  • Score: 0

10:44am Tue 5 Aug 14

natwood1978 says...

I must start by saying how disgusted I am by the BEN reporter!! Very biased and clearly viewed the demo from a distance!! We are not racist, as i certainly would not follow a racist group, what we are against is how we are being treated, we are losing our heritage that many brave men and women fought for, our freedom, our freedom of speech and expression, as a british citizen with children I feel our rights are taken away, we are not allowed to be outspoken in any way as the racist card is played against us, I have first hand experience of receiving a racist comment and I am white!! If i had reported this i would have been laughed at, the government and Councillors are all too afraid to speak out in how they truly believe, afraid of the back lash they would receive, I was brought up to believe respect!!! I respect others and their beliefs, why can't our beliefs and our traditions be respected, question for you??
you go on holiday and do you respect how the country you a visiting live?? the only answer is YES so why is it different for britain, our goverment send money to other countries for AID, do our citizens not need this help, ex forces, the homeless etc our children are growing up in a society with no help, no jobs, no local play areas, nothing, everything is being ripped away , the muslim community do not enhance our town and the building they want would look out of place, not to mention the amount of mosques they already have, half of which are not registered, I have seen two letters from the council, one advising people to remove THEIR OWN BRITISH/ENGLISH FLAG!!!! and the second apologizing to the residents on blackburn road for the demonstration!!! where is our apology for our town, which is being taken over and we are deemed racist if we appose this, WE ARE NOT RACIST, we just want to have a say in our town!!!
I must start by saying how disgusted I am by the BEN reporter!! Very biased and clearly viewed the demo from a distance!! We are not racist, as i certainly would not follow a racist group, what we are against is how we are being treated, we are losing our heritage that many brave men and women fought for, our freedom, our freedom of speech and expression, as a british citizen with children I feel our rights are taken away, we are not allowed to be outspoken in any way as the racist card is played against us, I have first hand experience of receiving a racist comment and I am white!! If i had reported this i would have been laughed at, the government and Councillors are all too afraid to speak out in how they truly believe, afraid of the back lash they would receive, I was brought up to believe respect!!! I respect others and their beliefs, why can't our beliefs and our traditions be respected, question for you?? you go on holiday and do you respect how the country you a visiting live?? the only answer is YES so why is it different for britain, our goverment send money to other countries for AID, do our citizens not need this help, ex forces, the homeless etc our children are growing up in a society with no help, no jobs, no local play areas, nothing, everything is being ripped away , the muslim community do not enhance our town and the building they want would look out of place, not to mention the amount of mosques they already have, half of which are not registered, I have seen two letters from the council, one advising people to remove THEIR OWN BRITISH/ENGLISH FLAG!!!! and the second apologizing to the residents on blackburn road for the demonstration!!! where is our apology for our town, which is being taken over and we are deemed racist if we appose this, WE ARE NOT RACIST, we just want to have a say in our town!!! natwood1978
  • Score: 7

12:37pm Tue 5 Aug 14

johnnyjackson says...

natwood1978 wrote:
I must start by saying how disgusted I am by the BEN reporter!! Very biased and clearly viewed the demo from a distance!! We are not racist, as i certainly would not follow a racist group, what we are against is how we are being treated, we are losing our heritage that many brave men and women fought for, our freedom, our freedom of speech and expression, as a british citizen with children I feel our rights are taken away, we are not allowed to be outspoken in any way as the racist card is played against us, I have first hand experience of receiving a racist comment and I am white!! If i had reported this i would have been laughed at, the government and Councillors are all too afraid to speak out in how they truly believe, afraid of the back lash they would receive, I was brought up to believe respect!!! I respect others and their beliefs, why can't our beliefs and our traditions be respected, question for you??
you go on holiday and do you respect how the country you a visiting live?? the only answer is YES so why is it different for britain, our goverment send money to other countries for AID, do our citizens not need this help, ex forces, the homeless etc our children are growing up in a society with no help, no jobs, no local play areas, nothing, everything is being ripped away , the muslim community do not enhance our town and the building they want would look out of place, not to mention the amount of mosques they already have, half of which are not registered, I have seen two letters from the council, one advising people to remove THEIR OWN BRITISH/ENGLISH FLAG!!!! and the second apologizing to the residents on blackburn road for the demonstration!!! where is our apology for our town, which is being taken over and we are deemed racist if we appose this, WE ARE NOT RACIST, we just want to have a say in our town!!!
I think the British government want to give back something to the many countries they invaded and handed the land over to others.
[quote][p][bold]natwood1978[/bold] wrote: I must start by saying how disgusted I am by the BEN reporter!! Very biased and clearly viewed the demo from a distance!! We are not racist, as i certainly would not follow a racist group, what we are against is how we are being treated, we are losing our heritage that many brave men and women fought for, our freedom, our freedom of speech and expression, as a british citizen with children I feel our rights are taken away, we are not allowed to be outspoken in any way as the racist card is played against us, I have first hand experience of receiving a racist comment and I am white!! If i had reported this i would have been laughed at, the government and Councillors are all too afraid to speak out in how they truly believe, afraid of the back lash they would receive, I was brought up to believe respect!!! I respect others and their beliefs, why can't our beliefs and our traditions be respected, question for you?? you go on holiday and do you respect how the country you a visiting live?? the only answer is YES so why is it different for britain, our goverment send money to other countries for AID, do our citizens not need this help, ex forces, the homeless etc our children are growing up in a society with no help, no jobs, no local play areas, nothing, everything is being ripped away , the muslim community do not enhance our town and the building they want would look out of place, not to mention the amount of mosques they already have, half of which are not registered, I have seen two letters from the council, one advising people to remove THEIR OWN BRITISH/ENGLISH FLAG!!!! and the second apologizing to the residents on blackburn road for the demonstration!!! where is our apology for our town, which is being taken over and we are deemed racist if we appose this, WE ARE NOT RACIST, we just want to have a say in our town!!![/p][/quote]I think the British government want to give back something to the many countries they invaded and handed the land over to others. johnnyjackson
  • Score: -1

2:14pm Tue 5 Aug 14

simmo999regt says...

Well, what can I say? I feel really sorry for the Folks in Bolton and those opposing the construction of this Mosque, for as we all know it, Labour and their followers are really Muslims in Disguise, also known as Kaffa.!
I come from Wakefield and have just witnessed a peaceful demonstration, that threatens all non Muslims with beheadings and slaughter. The police just stood there and did nothing. The report in the local Paper, said protesters demanding Police arrest the demonstrators for displaying placards such as this were themselves threatened with arrest.
I find it totally unacceptable and truly racist, for placards of threat, to be displayed on any British Street, but what happens? Nothing, because we are branded Racist if we complain.! Likewise, those who are demonstrating against this extension of a Mosque are immediately branded racist. The utter ignorance of those writing these columns in newspapers is beyond belief. Just because someone doesn't want more mosques built, in what is an "Overcrowded" country, doesn't mean they are racist. It is those who Brand these demonstrators Racist, who are really the "Racists". What on earth is going on in this once pleasant land? We cannot say or do anything to protest without the "Racist" Branding. They are deliberately building more Mosques because they know they will be needing them when the Kaffa decide enough is enough and make bigger protest. I can see this divide escalating to Anarchy and within the next 20 years, a War of some scale, will break out somewhere and that will cause everyone to take up arms. We are doing this ourselves and those who think that some are spouting Wind, will have to eat their words within a short while. If I were to walk down the high street shouting "Annihilate the British Government, Police." then I would be arrested immediately for inciting murder. Yet we see demonstrations, where hoard of Muslims are screaming for the death of every Jew on Earth. We got rid of those who tried this once before.! Somehow, we have forgotten all this and now when we protest about this threat, "WE" are accused of racism and face fines or even prison. For those who have taken time to read the Koran, you will find sections in this book that clearly say, "Lie" "Deceive" to the Infidel. This is what all Faithful Muslims are taught and do. We are making decisions in every form, that let one or two sections of the Muslim community into "Our" hallowed area, and that even means turning once great British old churches into mosques. They know this upsets the communities, but they rely on the great British press to condemn the protestors to the Racist Barrel. That's why they do it.! What would happen if a Mosque was changed into a Christian Church? All hell would let loose. The Aim of the Muslim Faith is to take over the world. It states quite clearly in the Koran, that there will be peace on Earth, only when everyone is of Muslim Faith. They are well on their way to achieving this. So Labour councillors, get your Prayer Mats out and be ready to watch thousands getting their "Heads Cut From their Bodies and their Hands Smitten from their Arms" and think, Yes, I did nothing to prevent this, because if I did, I would be branded "Racist".
Well, what can I say? I feel really sorry for the Folks in Bolton and those opposing the construction of this Mosque, for as we all know it, Labour and their followers are really Muslims in Disguise, also known as Kaffa.! I come from Wakefield and have just witnessed a peaceful demonstration, that threatens all non Muslims with beheadings and slaughter. The police just stood there and did nothing. The report in the local Paper, said protesters demanding Police arrest the demonstrators for displaying placards such as this were themselves threatened with arrest. I find it totally unacceptable and truly racist, for placards of threat, to be displayed on any British Street, but what happens? Nothing, because we are branded Racist if we complain.! Likewise, those who are demonstrating against this extension of a Mosque are immediately branded racist. The utter ignorance of those writing these columns in newspapers is beyond belief. Just because someone doesn't want more mosques built, in what is an "Overcrowded" country, doesn't mean they are racist. It is those who Brand these demonstrators Racist, who are really the "Racists". What on earth is going on in this once pleasant land? We cannot say or do anything to protest without the "Racist" Branding. They are deliberately building more Mosques because they know they will be needing them when the Kaffa decide enough is enough and make bigger protest. I can see this divide escalating to Anarchy and within the next 20 years, a War of some scale, will break out somewhere and that will cause everyone to take up arms. We are doing this ourselves and those who think that some are spouting Wind, will have to eat their words within a short while. If I were to walk down the high street shouting "Annihilate the British Government, Police." then I would be arrested immediately for inciting murder. Yet we see demonstrations, where hoard of Muslims are screaming for the death of every Jew on Earth. We got rid of those who tried this once before.! Somehow, we have forgotten all this and now when we protest about this threat, "WE" are accused of racism and face fines or even prison. For those who have taken time to read the Koran, you will find sections in this book that clearly say, "Lie" "Deceive" to the Infidel. This is what all Faithful Muslims are taught and do. We are making decisions in every form, that let one or two sections of the Muslim community into "Our" hallowed area, and that even means turning once great British old churches into mosques. They know this upsets the communities, but they rely on the great British press to condemn the protestors to the Racist Barrel. That's why they do it.! What would happen if a Mosque was changed into a Christian Church? All hell would let loose. The Aim of the Muslim Faith is to take over the world. It states quite clearly in the Koran, that there will be peace on Earth, only when everyone is of Muslim Faith. They are well on their way to achieving this. So Labour councillors, get your Prayer Mats out and be ready to watch thousands getting their "Heads Cut From their Bodies and their Hands Smitten from their Arms" and think, Yes, I did nothing to prevent this, because if I did, I would be branded "Racist". simmo999regt
  • Score: 5

2:22pm Tue 5 Aug 14

Mr Roberts says...

tommytheinfadel wrote:
well i for one have lodged a complaint against julian thorpe for labelling people infadels and racial profiling, racism and hate crimes

this is illegal and is racist

i attended the rally, and i am a 40 year old solicitor from bolton, and appear in photos labelling me an infadel by julian thorpe, i have no connection with the group at all. your racial hatrad and illegal racial profiling is like labelling muslim protests as al queda ( just incase there was a al queda member there )............. you are a total disgrace and i am seriously offended by your article and will ensure you no longer work as a editor ever again, you are disgusting and racist !!!

i will be pursuing charges personally against him and have been in contact with newsquest today, sending them the photos where i am labelled a infadel

i will accept nothing more than his resignation or dismissal and will ensure this article is the last he rubber stamps in his life

see you soon julian

Timothy
Solicitors Act 1974


21 Unqualified person not to pretend to be a solicitor.

Any unqualified person who wilfully pretends to be, or takes or uses any name, title, addition or description implying that he is, qualified or recognised by law as qualified to act as a solicitor shall be guilty of an offence and liable on summary conviction to
[quote][p][bold]tommytheinfadel[/bold] wrote: well i for one have lodged a complaint against julian thorpe for labelling people infadels and racial profiling, racism and hate crimes this is illegal and is racist i attended the rally, and i am a 40 year old solicitor from bolton, and appear in photos labelling me an infadel by julian thorpe, i have no connection with the group at all. your racial hatrad and illegal racial profiling is like labelling muslim protests as al queda ( just incase there was a al queda member there )............. you are a total disgrace and i am seriously offended by your article and will ensure you no longer work as a editor ever again, you are disgusting and racist !!! i will be pursuing charges personally against him and have been in contact with newsquest today, sending them the photos where i am labelled a infadel i will accept nothing more than his resignation or dismissal and will ensure this article is the last he rubber stamps in his life see you soon julian Timothy[/p][/quote]Solicitors Act 1974 21 Unqualified person not to pretend to be a solicitor. Any unqualified person who wilfully pretends to be, or takes or uses any name, title, addition or description implying that he is, qualified or recognised by law as qualified to act as a solicitor shall be guilty of an offence and liable on summary conviction to [F1a fine not exceeding the fourth level on the standard scale] Mr Roberts
  • Score: -1

2:26pm Tue 5 Aug 14

Mr Roberts says...

tommytheinfadel wrote:
well i for one have lodged a complaint against julian thorpe for labelling people infadels and racial profiling, racism and hate crimes

this is illegal and is racist

i attended the rally, and i am a 40 year old solicitor from bolton, and appear in photos labelling me an infadel by julian thorpe, i have no connection with the group at all. your racial hatrad and illegal racial profiling is like labelling muslim protests as al queda ( just incase there was a al queda member there )............. you are a total disgrace and i am seriously offended by your article and will ensure you no longer work as a editor ever again, you are disgusting and racist !!!

i will be pursuing charges personally against him and have been in contact with newsquest today, sending them the photos where i am labelled a infadel

i will accept nothing more than his resignation or dismissal and will ensure this article is the last he rubber stamps in his life

see you soon julian

Timothy
Solicitors Act 1974


21 Unqualified person not to pretend to be a solicitor.

Any unqualified person who wilfully pretends to be, or takes or uses any name, title, addition or description implying that he is, qualified or recognised by law as qualified to act as a solicitor shall be guilty of an offence and liable on summary conviction to
[quote][p][bold]tommytheinfadel[/bold] wrote: well i for one have lodged a complaint against julian thorpe for labelling people infadels and racial profiling, racism and hate crimes this is illegal and is racist i attended the rally, and i am a 40 year old solicitor from bolton, and appear in photos labelling me an infadel by julian thorpe, i have no connection with the group at all. your racial hatrad and illegal racial profiling is like labelling muslim protests as al queda ( just incase there was a al queda member there )............. you are a total disgrace and i am seriously offended by your article and will ensure you no longer work as a editor ever again, you are disgusting and racist !!! i will be pursuing charges personally against him and have been in contact with newsquest today, sending them the photos where i am labelled a infadel i will accept nothing more than his resignation or dismissal and will ensure this article is the last he rubber stamps in his life see you soon julian Timothy[/p][/quote]Solicitors Act 1974 21 Unqualified person not to pretend to be a solicitor. Any unqualified person who wilfully pretends to be, or takes or uses any name, title, addition or description implying that he is, qualified or recognised by law as qualified to act as a solicitor shall be guilty of an offence and liable on summary conviction to [F1a fine not exceeding the fourth level on the standard scale] Mr Roberts
  • Score: 1

2:32pm Tue 5 Aug 14

simmo999regt says...

Britain, AKA GREAT BRITAIN, The BRITISH ISLES, United Kingdom, Britain, UK, England Scotland Wales Northern Ireland, The Channel Isles, Isle of Man Isle of White Northern Isles and those little islands that adorn our wonderful coast.
Be ready for change, for the Labour Government have signed a secret pact and it will affect every Non Muslim in this once Great country.
Britain, AKA GREAT BRITAIN, The BRITISH ISLES, United Kingdom, Britain, UK, England Scotland Wales Northern Ireland, The Channel Isles, Isle of Man Isle of White Northern Isles and those little islands that adorn our wonderful coast. Be ready for change, for the Labour Government have signed a secret pact and it will affect every Non Muslim in this once Great country. simmo999regt
  • Score: 1

3:10pm Tue 5 Aug 14

johnnyjackson says...

simmo999regt wrote:
Well, what can I say? I feel really sorry for the Folks in Bolton and those opposing the construction of this Mosque, for as we all know it, Labour and their followers are really Muslims in Disguise, also known as Kaffa.!
I come from Wakefield and have just witnessed a peaceful demonstration, that threatens all non Muslims with beheadings and slaughter. The police just stood there and did nothing. The report in the local Paper, said protesters demanding Police arrest the demonstrators for displaying placards such as this were themselves threatened with arrest.
I find it totally unacceptable and truly racist, for placards of threat, to be displayed on any British Street, but what happens? Nothing, because we are branded Racist if we complain.! Likewise, those who are demonstrating against this extension of a Mosque are immediately branded racist. The utter ignorance of those writing these columns in newspapers is beyond belief. Just because someone doesn't want more mosques built, in what is an "Overcrowded" country, doesn't mean they are racist. It is those who Brand these demonstrators Racist, who are really the "Racists". What on earth is going on in this once pleasant land? We cannot say or do anything to protest without the "Racist" Branding. They are deliberately building more Mosques because they know they will be needing them when the Kaffa decide enough is enough and make bigger protest. I can see this divide escalating to Anarchy and within the next 20 years, a War of some scale, will break out somewhere and that will cause everyone to take up arms. We are doing this ourselves and those who think that some are spouting Wind, will have to eat their words within a short while. If I were to walk down the high street shouting "Annihilate the British Government, Police." then I would be arrested immediately for inciting murder. Yet we see demonstrations, where hoard of Muslims are screaming for the death of every Jew on Earth. We got rid of those who tried this once before.! Somehow, we have forgotten all this and now when we protest about this threat, "WE" are accused of racism and face fines or even prison. For those who have taken time to read the Koran, you will find sections in this book that clearly say, "Lie" "Deceive" to the Infidel. This is what all Faithful Muslims are taught and do. We are making decisions in every form, that let one or two sections of the Muslim community into "Our" hallowed area, and that even means turning once great British old churches into mosques. They know this upsets the communities, but they rely on the great British press to condemn the protestors to the Racist Barrel. That's why they do it.! What would happen if a Mosque was changed into a Christian Church? All hell would let loose. The Aim of the Muslim Faith is to take over the world. It states quite clearly in the Koran, that there will be peace on Earth, only when everyone is of Muslim Faith. They are well on their way to achieving this. So Labour councillors, get your Prayer Mats out and be ready to watch thousands getting their "Heads Cut From their Bodies and their Hands Smitten from their Arms" and think, Yes, I did nothing to prevent this, because if I did, I would be branded "Racist".
What a load of nonesense.

There was no peaceful demonsration stating the above. If a demonstration of that type took place, it wouldn't be peaceful, and it wouldnt involve muslims.

You have been reading the wrong book if you think the Koran as you call it states what you wrote above.

Please share the original passages from the "koran" in arabic that referrs to what you claim above.

Many Thanks and I suggest you return to Wakefield.
[quote][p][bold]simmo999regt[/bold] wrote: Well, what can I say? I feel really sorry for the Folks in Bolton and those opposing the construction of this Mosque, for as we all know it, Labour and their followers are really Muslims in Disguise, also known as Kaffa.! I come from Wakefield and have just witnessed a peaceful demonstration, that threatens all non Muslims with beheadings and slaughter. The police just stood there and did nothing. The report in the local Paper, said protesters demanding Police arrest the demonstrators for displaying placards such as this were themselves threatened with arrest. I find it totally unacceptable and truly racist, for placards of threat, to be displayed on any British Street, but what happens? Nothing, because we are branded Racist if we complain.! Likewise, those who are demonstrating against this extension of a Mosque are immediately branded racist. The utter ignorance of those writing these columns in newspapers is beyond belief. Just because someone doesn't want more mosques built, in what is an "Overcrowded" country, doesn't mean they are racist. It is those who Brand these demonstrators Racist, who are really the "Racists". What on earth is going on in this once pleasant land? We cannot say or do anything to protest without the "Racist" Branding. They are deliberately building more Mosques because they know they will be needing them when the Kaffa decide enough is enough and make bigger protest. I can see this divide escalating to Anarchy and within the next 20 years, a War of some scale, will break out somewhere and that will cause everyone to take up arms. We are doing this ourselves and those who think that some are spouting Wind, will have to eat their words within a short while. If I were to walk down the high street shouting "Annihilate the British Government, Police." then I would be arrested immediately for inciting murder. Yet we see demonstrations, where hoard of Muslims are screaming for the death of every Jew on Earth. We got rid of those who tried this once before.! Somehow, we have forgotten all this and now when we protest about this threat, "WE" are accused of racism and face fines or even prison. For those who have taken time to read the Koran, you will find sections in this book that clearly say, "Lie" "Deceive" to the Infidel. This is what all Faithful Muslims are taught and do. We are making decisions in every form, that let one or two sections of the Muslim community into "Our" hallowed area, and that even means turning once great British old churches into mosques. They know this upsets the communities, but they rely on the great British press to condemn the protestors to the Racist Barrel. That's why they do it.! What would happen if a Mosque was changed into a Christian Church? All hell would let loose. The Aim of the Muslim Faith is to take over the world. It states quite clearly in the Koran, that there will be peace on Earth, only when everyone is of Muslim Faith. They are well on their way to achieving this. So Labour councillors, get your Prayer Mats out and be ready to watch thousands getting their "Heads Cut From their Bodies and their Hands Smitten from their Arms" and think, Yes, I did nothing to prevent this, because if I did, I would be branded "Racist".[/p][/quote]What a load of nonesense. There was no peaceful demonsration stating the above. If a demonstration of that type took place, it wouldn't be peaceful, and it wouldnt involve muslims. You have been reading the wrong book if you think the Koran as you call it states what you wrote above. Please share the original passages from the "koran" in arabic that referrs to what you claim above. Many Thanks and I suggest you return to Wakefield. johnnyjackson
  • Score: -3

4:04pm Tue 5 Aug 14

johnnyjackson says...

simmo999regt wrote:
Well, what can I say? I feel really sorry for the Folks in Bolton and those opposing the construction of this Mosque, for as we all know it, Labour and their followers are really Muslims in Disguise, also known as Kaffa.!
I come from Wakefield and have just witnessed a peaceful demonstration, that threatens all non Muslims with beheadings and slaughter. The police just stood there and did nothing. The report in the local Paper, said protesters demanding Police arrest the demonstrators for displaying placards such as this were themselves threatened with arrest.
I find it totally unacceptable and truly racist, for placards of threat, to be displayed on any British Street, but what happens? Nothing, because we are branded Racist if we complain.! Likewise, those who are demonstrating against this extension of a Mosque are immediately branded racist. The utter ignorance of those writing these columns in newspapers is beyond belief. Just because someone doesn't want more mosques built, in what is an "Overcrowded" country, doesn't mean they are racist. It is those who Brand these demonstrators Racist, who are really the "Racists". What on earth is going on in this once pleasant land? We cannot say or do anything to protest without the "Racist" Branding. They are deliberately building more Mosques because they know they will be needing them when the Kaffa decide enough is enough and make bigger protest. I can see this divide escalating to Anarchy and within the next 20 years, a War of some scale, will break out somewhere and that will cause everyone to take up arms. We are doing this ourselves and those who think that some are spouting Wind, will have to eat their words within a short while. If I were to walk down the high street shouting "Annihilate the British Government, Police." then I would be arrested immediately for inciting murder. Yet we see demonstrations, where hoard of Muslims are screaming for the death of every Jew on Earth. We got rid of those who tried this once before.! Somehow, we have forgotten all this and now when we protest about this threat, "WE" are accused of racism and face fines or even prison. For those who have taken time to read the Koran, you will find sections in this book that clearly say, "Lie" "Deceive" to the Infidel. This is what all Faithful Muslims are taught and do. We are making decisions in every form, that let one or two sections of the Muslim community into "Our" hallowed area, and that even means turning once great British old churches into mosques. They know this upsets the communities, but they rely on the great British press to condemn the protestors to the Racist Barrel. That's why they do it.! What would happen if a Mosque was changed into a Christian Church? All hell would let loose. The Aim of the Muslim Faith is to take over the world. It states quite clearly in the Koran, that there will be peace on Earth, only when everyone is of Muslim Faith. They are well on their way to achieving this. So Labour councillors, get your Prayer Mats out and be ready to watch thousands getting their "Heads Cut From their Bodies and their Hands Smitten from their Arms" and think, Yes, I did nothing to prevent this, because if I did, I would be branded "Racist".
This protest was organised by a group called NWI, therefore when the BN report and call people Infidels, people dont have a leg to stand on.

The guy in the photo looks like he's come for a peaceful demonstration, his 2 fingers were meant to be reversed i.e. he's saying he wants peace.
[quote][p][bold]simmo999regt[/bold] wrote: Well, what can I say? I feel really sorry for the Folks in Bolton and those opposing the construction of this Mosque, for as we all know it, Labour and their followers are really Muslims in Disguise, also known as Kaffa.! I come from Wakefield and have just witnessed a peaceful demonstration, that threatens all non Muslims with beheadings and slaughter. The police just stood there and did nothing. The report in the local Paper, said protesters demanding Police arrest the demonstrators for displaying placards such as this were themselves threatened with arrest. I find it totally unacceptable and truly racist, for placards of threat, to be displayed on any British Street, but what happens? Nothing, because we are branded Racist if we complain.! Likewise, those who are demonstrating against this extension of a Mosque are immediately branded racist. The utter ignorance of those writing these columns in newspapers is beyond belief. Just because someone doesn't want more mosques built, in what is an "Overcrowded" country, doesn't mean they are racist. It is those who Brand these demonstrators Racist, who are really the "Racists". What on earth is going on in this once pleasant land? We cannot say or do anything to protest without the "Racist" Branding. They are deliberately building more Mosques because they know they will be needing them when the Kaffa decide enough is enough and make bigger protest. I can see this divide escalating to Anarchy and within the next 20 years, a War of some scale, will break out somewhere and that will cause everyone to take up arms. We are doing this ourselves and those who think that some are spouting Wind, will have to eat their words within a short while. If I were to walk down the high street shouting "Annihilate the British Government, Police." then I would be arrested immediately for inciting murder. Yet we see demonstrations, where hoard of Muslims are screaming for the death of every Jew on Earth. We got rid of those who tried this once before.! Somehow, we have forgotten all this and now when we protest about this threat, "WE" are accused of racism and face fines or even prison. For those who have taken time to read the Koran, you will find sections in this book that clearly say, "Lie" "Deceive" to the Infidel. This is what all Faithful Muslims are taught and do. We are making decisions in every form, that let one or two sections of the Muslim community into "Our" hallowed area, and that even means turning once great British old churches into mosques. They know this upsets the communities, but they rely on the great British press to condemn the protestors to the Racist Barrel. That's why they do it.! What would happen if a Mosque was changed into a Christian Church? All hell would let loose. The Aim of the Muslim Faith is to take over the world. It states quite clearly in the Koran, that there will be peace on Earth, only when everyone is of Muslim Faith. They are well on their way to achieving this. So Labour councillors, get your Prayer Mats out and be ready to watch thousands getting their "Heads Cut From their Bodies and their Hands Smitten from their Arms" and think, Yes, I did nothing to prevent this, because if I did, I would be branded "Racist".[/p][/quote]This protest was organised by a group called NWI, therefore when the BN report and call people Infidels, people dont have a leg to stand on. The guy in the photo looks like he's come for a peaceful demonstration, his 2 fingers were meant to be reversed i.e. he's saying he wants peace. johnnyjackson
  • Score: -1

4:05pm Tue 5 Aug 14

J1mmy Z says...

“Cultural diversity enriches our lives and doesn’t threaten us."
Yeah, and diversity is what makes the middle east so peaceful!
;)
“Cultural diversity enriches our lives and doesn’t threaten us." Yeah, and diversity is what makes the middle east so peaceful! ;) J1mmy Z
  • Score: 0

5:42pm Tue 5 Aug 14

bolton12 says...

Tim Burr wrote:
bolton12 wrote:
Tim Burr wrote:
bolton12 wrote:
Tim Burr wrote:
Posted by another crackpot group British Patriots Society II, bolton12
No Tim Burr, posted by a concerned resident from Astley Bridge with a photo of the lady at the protest.
Posted by British Patriots Society II - who are ex UKIP booted for racism and EDL affiliations.

Hmm, the next question is, why on earth would you take granny along to a demo attended by foul mouthed morons.
Because Tim Burr that lady wanted to show her support in opposing another mosque, which lots of other people oppose but won't show up because they are frightened of being branded racist.
Except for one fact - that fact being it's not another Mosque.

Don't let truth stand in the way of yours and Granny's bigotry.
Oh right Mr Expert. where is it then, bet not near where you live?
[quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bolton12[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bolton12[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: Posted by another crackpot group British Patriots Society II, bolton12[/p][/quote]No Tim Burr, posted by a concerned resident from Astley Bridge with a photo of the lady at the protest.[/p][/quote]Posted by British Patriots Society II - who are ex UKIP booted for racism and EDL affiliations. Hmm, the next question is, why on earth would you take granny along to a demo attended by foul mouthed morons.[/p][/quote]Because Tim Burr that lady wanted to show her support in opposing another mosque, which lots of other people oppose but won't show up because they are frightened of being branded racist.[/p][/quote]Except for one fact - that fact being it's not another Mosque. Don't let truth stand in the way of yours and Granny's bigotry.[/p][/quote]Oh right Mr Expert. where is it then, bet not near where you live? bolton12
  • Score: 0

3:53am Wed 6 Aug 14

Immy khan says...

It just shows how many uneducated low life racist pigs have been commented on this crapy news report wow it just makes you laugh
It just shows how many uneducated low life racist pigs have been commented on this crapy news report wow it just makes you laugh Immy khan
  • Score: -1

3:55am Wed 6 Aug 14

Immy khan says...

ubidubuy-co.uk wrote:
I am not a racist by any means but the muslim community are stirring up trouble all over the country. This is a British country and should hold British values. People have the right to demonstrate but it seems that when the British demonstrate there is uproar amongst the muslim community. By being a free country everyone has a right to a peaceful demonstration but it seems okay for the Muslim community to demonstrate against Jews and other faiths but do not like it when people demonstrate against their values.
There will many more british people turning to UKIP and far right groups because of the way that islam is tryng to dictate their radical views amongst moderate Muslims and turning against the people who welcomed them into our once beautiful Island
Go back to school
[quote][p][bold]ubidubuy-co.uk[/bold] wrote: I am not a racist by any means but the muslim community are stirring up trouble all over the country. This is a British country and should hold British values. People have the right to demonstrate but it seems that when the British demonstrate there is uproar amongst the muslim community. By being a free country everyone has a right to a peaceful demonstration but it seems okay for the Muslim community to demonstrate against Jews and other faiths but do not like it when people demonstrate against their values. There will many more british people turning to UKIP and far right groups because of the way that islam is tryng to dictate their radical views amongst moderate Muslims and turning against the people who welcomed them into our once beautiful Island[/p][/quote]Go back to school Immy khan
  • Score: 0

3:57am Wed 6 Aug 14

Immy khan says...

boltonfree wrote:
I am white English and I think I must be missing something as I'm not scared about a mosque being built and in no way do I feel like a second class citizen. It makes me laugh people spouting nonsense that all Muslim countries are in civil war as a non Muslim country has never had a civil war? Most of the major wars have been caused by non muslims so I think we must be as bad as them according to some. The edl, bnp or whatever they want to call themselves just need to leave bolton alone as aloe of people don't want them here. Only 200 people that just shows alot of people are keyboard warriors who probably play on call of duty pretending they are protecting England what a joke.
Respect
[quote][p][bold]boltonfree[/bold] wrote: I am white English and I think I must be missing something as I'm not scared about a mosque being built and in no way do I feel like a second class citizen. It makes me laugh people spouting nonsense that all Muslim countries are in civil war as a non Muslim country has never had a civil war? Most of the major wars have been caused by non muslims so I think we must be as bad as them according to some. The edl, bnp or whatever they want to call themselves just need to leave bolton alone as aloe of people don't want them here. Only 200 people that just shows alot of people are keyboard warriors who probably play on call of duty pretending they are protecting England what a joke.[/p][/quote]Respect Immy khan
  • Score: 0

3:29pm Wed 6 Aug 14

JohnTheBaptist says...

Immy khan wrote:
boltonfree wrote:
I am white English and I think I must be missing something as I'm not scared about a mosque being built and in no way do I feel like a second class citizen. It makes me laugh people spouting nonsense that all Muslim countries are in civil war as a non Muslim country has never had a civil war? Most of the major wars have been caused by non muslims so I think we must be as bad as them according to some. The edl, bnp or whatever they want to call themselves just need to leave bolton alone as aloe of people don't want them here. Only 200 people that just shows alot of people are keyboard warriors who probably play on call of duty pretending they are protecting England what a joke.
Respect
I can gurantee you safety if a non muslim walks past a mosque. Ive never been to a mosque where hatred has been preached, never.

Can someone guarantee me safety if I walked alone in breightmet or farnworth, I doubt it.
[quote][p][bold]Immy khan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]boltonfree[/bold] wrote: I am white English and I think I must be missing something as I'm not scared about a mosque being built and in no way do I feel like a second class citizen. It makes me laugh people spouting nonsense that all Muslim countries are in civil war as a non Muslim country has never had a civil war? Most of the major wars have been caused by non muslims so I think we must be as bad as them according to some. The edl, bnp or whatever they want to call themselves just need to leave bolton alone as aloe of people don't want them here. Only 200 people that just shows alot of people are keyboard warriors who probably play on call of duty pretending they are protecting England what a joke.[/p][/quote]Respect[/p][/quote]I can gurantee you safety if a non muslim walks past a mosque. Ive never been to a mosque where hatred has been preached, never. Can someone guarantee me safety if I walked alone in breightmet or farnworth, I doubt it. JohnTheBaptist
  • Score: 2

6:46pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Lynn57 says...

Immy khan wrote:
It just shows how many uneducated low life racist pigs have been commented on this crapy news report wow it just makes you laugh
Learn how to spell you uneducated scum, how dare you call indigeous Brits pigs.
[quote][p][bold]Immy khan[/bold] wrote: It just shows how many uneducated low life racist pigs have been commented on this crapy news report wow it just makes you laugh[/p][/quote]Learn how to spell you uneducated scum, how dare you call indigeous Brits pigs. Lynn57
  • Score: 1

6:56pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Lynn57 says...

Lynn57 wrote:
Immy khan wrote:
It just shows how many uneducated low life racist pigs have been commented on this crapy news report wow it just makes you laugh
Learn how to spell you uneducated scum, how dare you call indigeous Brits pigs.
That should read indigenous, keyboard stuck. If Britain is so terrible why are you here? Why are we racist because mosques are being built in a Christian country?
[quote][p][bold]Lynn57[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Immy khan[/bold] wrote: It just shows how many uneducated low life racist pigs have been commented on this crapy news report wow it just makes you laugh[/p][/quote]Learn how to spell you uneducated scum, how dare you call indigeous Brits pigs.[/p][/quote]That should read indigenous, keyboard stuck. If Britain is so terrible why are you here? Why are we racist because mosques are being built in a Christian country? Lynn57
  • Score: -1

12:28am Thu 7 Aug 14

Greasy Chip Butty says...

Peaceful demo, my eye. A bunch of facsists from around the country stirring up trouble in Bolton. If local folk have concerns go through the systems that exist, it may get you somewhere.
A bit like the EDL from a few years ago these lot will disappear soon.
Authorities should ban these facsists from coming again to the streets of Bolton.
Peaceful demo, my eye. A bunch of facsists from around the country stirring up trouble in Bolton. If local folk have concerns go through the systems that exist, it may get you somewhere. A bit like the EDL from a few years ago these lot will disappear soon. Authorities should ban these facsists from coming again to the streets of Bolton. Greasy Chip Butty
  • Score: 2

1:09am Thu 7 Aug 14

Love Bolton says...

Such a shame really.

I know a lot of my friends used to go to this mosque before they went off to Uni, jobs, travel, etc. Many of their families came over in the 60s to do the factory jobs.

The mosque has been saving up for a very very very long time to be able to update their building. They were saving over 20 years ago. So finally they have the funds in place and instead of being able to celebrate this great news and invest in a new building we find ourselves with visitors from the various sects coming into Bolton to whip up protests.

Give the mosque a break. They have been there for a long time in a small and crowded building, why can they not have a new building?

Just for the record I am an athiest. Also believe that journalism should be balanced and fair.
Such a shame really. I know a lot of my friends used to go to this mosque before they went off to Uni, jobs, travel, etc. Many of their families came over in the 60s to do the factory jobs. The mosque has been saving up for a very very very long time to be able to update their building. They were saving over 20 years ago. So finally they have the funds in place and instead of being able to celebrate this great news and invest in a new building we find ourselves with visitors from the various sects coming into Bolton to whip up protests. Give the mosque a break. They have been there for a long time in a small and crowded building, why can they not have a new building? Just for the record I am an athiest. Also believe that journalism should be balanced and fair. Love Bolton
  • Score: 2

7:27am Thu 7 Aug 14

Dirty Hamed says...

Love Bolton wrote:
Such a shame really.

I know a lot of my friends used to go to this mosque before they went off to Uni, jobs, travel, etc. Many of their families came over in the 60s to do the factory jobs.

The mosque has been saving up for a very very very long time to be able to update their building. They were saving over 20 years ago. So finally they have the funds in place and instead of being able to celebrate this great news and invest in a new building we find ourselves with visitors from the various sects coming into Bolton to whip up protests.

Give the mosque a break. They have been there for a long time in a small and crowded building, why can they not have a new building?

Just for the record I am an athiest. Also believe that journalism should be balanced and fair.
Gimme a break, the mosque has been funded by Saudi money !
These people think they're being clever taking the money the rich Arabs are handing out when actually if they were really smart they would have shown more discretion and done it the usual way... underhanded and sneaky, i hope it backfires spectacularly....
[quote][p][bold]Love Bolton[/bold] wrote: Such a shame really. I know a lot of my friends used to go to this mosque before they went off to Uni, jobs, travel, etc. Many of their families came over in the 60s to do the factory jobs. The mosque has been saving up for a very very very long time to be able to update their building. They were saving over 20 years ago. So finally they have the funds in place and instead of being able to celebrate this great news and invest in a new building we find ourselves with visitors from the various sects coming into Bolton to whip up protests. Give the mosque a break. They have been there for a long time in a small and crowded building, why can they not have a new building? Just for the record I am an athiest. Also believe that journalism should be balanced and fair.[/p][/quote]Gimme a break, the mosque has been funded by Saudi money ! These people think they're being clever taking the money the rich Arabs are handing out when actually if they were really smart they would have shown more discretion and done it the usual way... underhanded and sneaky, i hope it backfires spectacularly.... Dirty Hamed
  • Score: -2

7:28am Thu 7 Aug 14

Dirty Hamed says...

Love Bolton wrote:
Such a shame really.

I know a lot of my friends used to go to this mosque before they went off to Uni, jobs, travel, etc. Many of their families came over in the 60s to do the factory jobs.

The mosque has been saving up for a very very very long time to be able to update their building. They were saving over 20 years ago. So finally they have the funds in place and instead of being able to celebrate this great news and invest in a new building we find ourselves with visitors from the various sects coming into Bolton to whip up protests.

Give the mosque a break. They have been there for a long time in a small and crowded building, why can they not have a new building?

Just for the record I am an athiest. Also believe that journalism should be balanced and fair.
Gimme a break, the mosque has been funded by Saudi money !
These people think they're being clever taking the money the rich Arabs are handing out when actually if they were really smart they would have shown more discretion and done it the usual way... underhanded and sneaky, i hope it backfires spectacularly....
[quote][p][bold]Love Bolton[/bold] wrote: Such a shame really. I know a lot of my friends used to go to this mosque before they went off to Uni, jobs, travel, etc. Many of their families came over in the 60s to do the factory jobs. The mosque has been saving up for a very very very long time to be able to update their building. They were saving over 20 years ago. So finally they have the funds in place and instead of being able to celebrate this great news and invest in a new building we find ourselves with visitors from the various sects coming into Bolton to whip up protests. Give the mosque a break. They have been there for a long time in a small and crowded building, why can they not have a new building? Just for the record I am an athiest. Also believe that journalism should be balanced and fair.[/p][/quote]Gimme a break, the mosque has been funded by Saudi money ! These people think they're being clever taking the money the rich Arabs are handing out when actually if they were really smart they would have shown more discretion and done it the usual way... underhanded and sneaky, i hope it backfires spectacularly.... Dirty Hamed
  • Score: 0

8:47am Thu 7 Aug 14

Tim Burr says...

Dirty Hamed wrote:
Love Bolton wrote:
Such a shame really.

I know a lot of my friends used to go to this mosque before they went off to Uni, jobs, travel, etc. Many of their families came over in the 60s to do the factory jobs.

The mosque has been saving up for a very very very long time to be able to update their building. They were saving over 20 years ago. So finally they have the funds in place and instead of being able to celebrate this great news and invest in a new building we find ourselves with visitors from the various sects coming into Bolton to whip up protests.

Give the mosque a break. They have been there for a long time in a small and crowded building, why can they not have a new building?

Just for the record I am an athiest. Also believe that journalism should be balanced and fair.
Gimme a break, the mosque has been funded by Saudi money !
These people think they're being clever taking the money the rich Arabs are handing out when actually if they were really smart they would have shown more discretion and done it the usual way... underhanded and sneaky, i hope it backfires spectacularly....
The irony? "underhanded and sneaky"
[quote][p][bold]Dirty Hamed[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Love Bolton[/bold] wrote: Such a shame really. I know a lot of my friends used to go to this mosque before they went off to Uni, jobs, travel, etc. Many of their families came over in the 60s to do the factory jobs. The mosque has been saving up for a very very very long time to be able to update their building. They were saving over 20 years ago. So finally they have the funds in place and instead of being able to celebrate this great news and invest in a new building we find ourselves with visitors from the various sects coming into Bolton to whip up protests. Give the mosque a break. They have been there for a long time in a small and crowded building, why can they not have a new building? Just for the record I am an athiest. Also believe that journalism should be balanced and fair.[/p][/quote]Gimme a break, the mosque has been funded by Saudi money ! These people think they're being clever taking the money the rich Arabs are handing out when actually if they were really smart they would have shown more discretion and done it the usual way... underhanded and sneaky, i hope it backfires spectacularly....[/p][/quote]The irony? "underhanded and sneaky" Tim Burr
  • Score: -4

12:18pm Thu 7 Aug 14

johnnyjackson says...

Dirty Hamed wrote:
Love Bolton wrote:
Such a shame really.

I know a lot of my friends used to go to this mosque before they went off to Uni, jobs, travel, etc. Many of their families came over in the 60s to do the factory jobs.

The mosque has been saving up for a very very very long time to be able to update their building. They were saving over 20 years ago. So finally they have the funds in place and instead of being able to celebrate this great news and invest in a new building we find ourselves with visitors from the various sects coming into Bolton to whip up protests.

Give the mosque a break. They have been there for a long time in a small and crowded building, why can they not have a new building?

Just for the record I am an athiest. Also believe that journalism should be balanced and fair.
Gimme a break, the mosque has been funded by Saudi money !
These people think they're being clever taking the money the rich Arabs are handing out when actually if they were really smart they would have shown more discretion and done it the usual way... underhanded and sneaky, i hope it backfires spectacularly....
The only person/thing that thinks they're clever is you.

Saudi money hahahaaa.... As if they'd part company with a penny.

Jog on.
[quote][p][bold]Dirty Hamed[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Love Bolton[/bold] wrote: Such a shame really. I know a lot of my friends used to go to this mosque before they went off to Uni, jobs, travel, etc. Many of their families came over in the 60s to do the factory jobs. The mosque has been saving up for a very very very long time to be able to update their building. They were saving over 20 years ago. So finally they have the funds in place and instead of being able to celebrate this great news and invest in a new building we find ourselves with visitors from the various sects coming into Bolton to whip up protests. Give the mosque a break. They have been there for a long time in a small and crowded building, why can they not have a new building? Just for the record I am an athiest. Also believe that journalism should be balanced and fair.[/p][/quote]Gimme a break, the mosque has been funded by Saudi money ! These people think they're being clever taking the money the rich Arabs are handing out when actually if they were really smart they would have shown more discretion and done it the usual way... underhanded and sneaky, i hope it backfires spectacularly....[/p][/quote]The only person/thing that thinks they're clever is you. Saudi money hahahaaa.... As if they'd part company with a penny. Jog on. johnnyjackson
  • Score: -2

12:26pm Thu 7 Aug 14

waka flocks flame says...

Lynn57 wrote:
Lynn57 wrote:
Immy khan wrote:
It just shows how many uneducated low life racist pigs have been commented on this crapy news report wow it just makes you laugh
Learn how to spell you uneducated scum, how dare you call indigeous Brits pigs.
That should read indigenous, keyboard stuck. If Britain is so terrible why are you here? Why are we racist because mosques are being built in a Christian country?
Indigenous? Do you even know what that means? There's not one person that can claim to be indigenous in Britain. Do you know how England got its name? It derives from Land of the Angles. Where did the Angles (AngloSaxons) come from? Germany. You say this is a Christian country yet most people in it are not practising Christians so I'm not sure how that works. Maybe you can explain why neither the Church of England or the Roman Catholic Church don't have a problem with mosques being built?
[quote][p][bold]Lynn57[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lynn57[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Immy khan[/bold] wrote: It just shows how many uneducated low life racist pigs have been commented on this crapy news report wow it just makes you laugh[/p][/quote]Learn how to spell you uneducated scum, how dare you call indigeous Brits pigs.[/p][/quote]That should read indigenous, keyboard stuck. If Britain is so terrible why are you here? Why are we racist because mosques are being built in a Christian country?[/p][/quote]Indigenous? Do you even know what that means? There's not one person that can claim to be indigenous in Britain. Do you know how England got its name? It derives from Land of the Angles. Where did the Angles (AngloSaxons) come from? Germany. You say this is a Christian country yet most people in it are not practising Christians so I'm not sure how that works. Maybe you can explain why neither the Church of England or the Roman Catholic Church don't have a problem with mosques being built? waka flocks flame
  • Score: 1

12:47pm Thu 7 Aug 14

johnnyjackson says...

Lynn57 wrote:
Lynn57 wrote:
Immy khan wrote:
It just shows how many uneducated low life racist pigs have been commented on this crapy news report wow it just makes you laugh
Learn how to spell you uneducated scum, how dare you call indigeous Brits pigs.
That should read indigenous, keyboard stuck. If Britain is so terrible why are you here? Why are we racist because mosques are being built in a Christian country?
I think you as a proud christian should worry about the christian Pedophile who has made front page news.

Get your own christian house in order before worrying about mosques.
[quote][p][bold]Lynn57[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lynn57[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Immy khan[/bold] wrote: It just shows how many uneducated low life racist pigs have been commented on this crapy news report wow it just makes you laugh[/p][/quote]Learn how to spell you uneducated scum, how dare you call indigeous Brits pigs.[/p][/quote]That should read indigenous, keyboard stuck. If Britain is so terrible why are you here? Why are we racist because mosques are being built in a Christian country?[/p][/quote]I think you as a proud christian should worry about the christian Pedophile who has made front page news. Get your own christian house in order before worrying about mosques. johnnyjackson
  • Score: 0

4:16pm Thu 7 Aug 14

Dirty Hamed says...

Tim Burr wrote:
Dirty Hamed wrote:
Love Bolton wrote:
Such a shame really.

I know a lot of my friends used to go to this mosque before they went off to Uni, jobs, travel, etc. Many of their families came over in the 60s to do the factory jobs.

The mosque has been saving up for a very very very long time to be able to update their building. They were saving over 20 years ago. So finally they have the funds in place and instead of being able to celebrate this great news and invest in a new building we find ourselves with visitors from the various sects coming into Bolton to whip up protests.

Give the mosque a break. They have been there for a long time in a small and crowded building, why can they not have a new building?

Just for the record I am an athiest. Also believe that journalism should be balanced and fair.
Gimme a break, the mosque has been funded by Saudi money !
These people think they're being clever taking the money the rich Arabs are handing out when actually if they were really smart they would have shown more discretion and done it the usual way... underhanded and sneaky, i hope it backfires spectacularly....
The irony? "underhanded and sneaky"
You'd know IRON man...
[quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dirty Hamed[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Love Bolton[/bold] wrote: Such a shame really. I know a lot of my friends used to go to this mosque before they went off to Uni, jobs, travel, etc. Many of their families came over in the 60s to do the factory jobs. The mosque has been saving up for a very very very long time to be able to update their building. They were saving over 20 years ago. So finally they have the funds in place and instead of being able to celebrate this great news and invest in a new building we find ourselves with visitors from the various sects coming into Bolton to whip up protests. Give the mosque a break. They have been there for a long time in a small and crowded building, why can they not have a new building? Just for the record I am an athiest. Also believe that journalism should be balanced and fair.[/p][/quote]Gimme a break, the mosque has been funded by Saudi money ! These people think they're being clever taking the money the rich Arabs are handing out when actually if they were really smart they would have shown more discretion and done it the usual way... underhanded and sneaky, i hope it backfires spectacularly....[/p][/quote]The irony? "underhanded and sneaky"[/p][/quote]You'd know IRON man... Dirty Hamed
  • Score: 3

2:34pm Fri 8 Aug 14

RogerDT says...

StopwiththeBS wrote:
tommytheinfadel wrote:
well i for one have lodged a complaint against julian thorpe for labelling people infadels and racial profiling, racism and hate crimes

this is illegal and is racist

i attended the rally, and i am a 40 year old solicitor from bolton, and appear in photos labelling me an infadel by julian thorpe, i have no connection with the group at all. your racial hatrad and illegal racial profiling is like labelling muslim protests as al queda ( just incase there was a al queda member there )............. you are a total disgrace and i am seriously offended by your article and will ensure you no longer work as a editor ever again, you are disgusting and racist !!!

i will be pursuing charges personally against him and have been in contact with newsquest today, sending them the photos where i am labelled a infadel

i will accept nothing more than his resignation or dismissal and will ensure this article is the last he rubber stamps in his life

see you soon julian

Timothy
Why the **** did you goto a North West Infidels demo then your twit?
you've spelt it wrong.
[quote][p][bold]StopwiththeBS[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tommytheinfadel[/bold] wrote: well i for one have lodged a complaint against julian thorpe for labelling people infadels and racial profiling, racism and hate crimes this is illegal and is racist i attended the rally, and i am a 40 year old solicitor from bolton, and appear in photos labelling me an infadel by julian thorpe, i have no connection with the group at all. your racial hatrad and illegal racial profiling is like labelling muslim protests as al queda ( just incase there was a al queda member there )............. you are a total disgrace and i am seriously offended by your article and will ensure you no longer work as a editor ever again, you are disgusting and racist !!! i will be pursuing charges personally against him and have been in contact with newsquest today, sending them the photos where i am labelled a infadel i will accept nothing more than his resignation or dismissal and will ensure this article is the last he rubber stamps in his life see you soon julian Timothy[/p][/quote]Why the **** did you goto a North West Infidels demo then your twit?[/p][/quote]you've spelt it wrong. RogerDT
  • Score: 1

7:50pm Fri 8 Aug 14

wandererfornow says...

RogerDT wrote:
StopwiththeBS wrote:
tommytheinfadel wrote:
well i for one have lodged a complaint against julian thorpe for labelling people infadels and racial profiling, racism and hate crimes

this is illegal and is racist

i attended the rally, and i am a 40 year old solicitor from bolton, and appear in photos labelling me an infadel by julian thorpe, i have no connection with the group at all. your racial hatrad and illegal racial profiling is like labelling muslim protests as al queda ( just incase there was a al queda member there )............. you are a total disgrace and i am seriously offended by your article and will ensure you no longer work as a editor ever again, you are disgusting and racist !!!

i will be pursuing charges personally against him and have been in contact with newsquest today, sending them the photos where i am labelled a infadel

i will accept nothing more than his resignation or dismissal and will ensure this article is the last he rubber stamps in his life

see you soon julian

Timothy
Why the **** did you goto a North West Infidels demo then your twit?
you've spelt it wrong.
i fully 100% agree with all the people who object to a (British) Bolton Newspaper allowing a stupid uneducated or inexperienced - (you decide which) young reporter Elaine O'Flynn to use the expression of infidels as a descriptive of non Muslims or white individuals. That in itself is discrimination! The Bolton News should retract her reporting and offer a front page apology! Elaine O'Flynn politics reporter! get real who is the editor who passed this rubbish low quality reporting?

There is a lot of tripe written here about the problems of the middle east and the Jews Christians Muslims and others. But the situation here is about how the Muslim population is massively changing the face of Britain and specifically Bolton. When was the last time a church temple or synagogue in Bolton or anywhere in Britain caused such concerns? Other faiths religions nationalities and groups here are tolerant of each other, they do not ride rough shod over the societies and towns and cities they live in! Yet here the faith of Islam is doing just that with a wicked smirk and a barely disguised
motive. When in the 1960's many immigrants took the chance to move to here and 'live with us' as did previous groups, like the Irish,the displaced from the 2nd WW, they moved because they wanted to live like the locals, US, lived like. They liked the honesty and the values and chances to be safe and progress and better themselves in this country. Yes there always was some problems but law and society changed things to help us and them live in understanding and peace. Currently were having those situations again with Eastern Europeans, and its obvious even now that that the flow of people from the UK is rarely INTO Eastern Europe or the Middle East, so we must still be doing something better here than over there, where ever 'there' is! You ask elder Asians if this is not the case! But now there is little integration, little take up of British values and cultures and little respect of individuals or societies
that offered those opportunities. There was a great British saying - "when in Rome, do as the Romans do" previous generations did just that, but now in particular, Muslims are setting themselves up as a different class of people. They sneer at our heritage and culture and use our laws against us. I used to drive along Halliwell Road to work, recently i let a man cross over instead of waiting, when i passed him i waved him, and he gestured back with two fingers to me! Why? Racism!
Simple things like good manners and tolerance are not even observed let alone practised seemingly any where, Anti Discrimination is insinuated every where from schools to shops to religions and politics.
Halal is everywhere now, and why?
Islam is meant to mean the peaceful way, but their book the Koran tells them to do terrible things, and over populate the planet to create a whole religion intolerant of others!
Other religions have their books but like all they were written and rewritten centuries ago for small populations and since then the eye for an eye principle has been ignored and replaced by equality and cooperation. Muslims want the best of both worlds, Britain and Islam, well if you want to live in an Islamic country, do so then and go and leave Britain and live in peace in the many peaceful and tolerant countries offering equality to males and females, gays and lesbians, rich and poor, Muslims and non Muslims.
Officially, (as proved by BMBC's stupid mistake of bending to the anti discrimination lobby and allowing another change to the original culture), there is no discrimination. On an individual or personal basis
its only a small percentage, yes if its you its personally 100% but i have much more abuse from aggressive people than i have ever given!
This has turned into a bit of a rant, but if you want to change things democratically do so, the majority of Bolton and the country is still non Muslim. USE YOUR VOTE AND MAKE YOUR COUNCILLORS DO WHAT YOU WANT THEM TO DO FOR YOU!
[quote][p][bold]RogerDT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StopwiththeBS[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tommytheinfadel[/bold] wrote: well i for one have lodged a complaint against julian thorpe for labelling people infadels and racial profiling, racism and hate crimes this is illegal and is racist i attended the rally, and i am a 40 year old solicitor from bolton, and appear in photos labelling me an infadel by julian thorpe, i have no connection with the group at all. your racial hatrad and illegal racial profiling is like labelling muslim protests as al queda ( just incase there was a al queda member there )............. you are a total disgrace and i am seriously offended by your article and will ensure you no longer work as a editor ever again, you are disgusting and racist !!! i will be pursuing charges personally against him and have been in contact with newsquest today, sending them the photos where i am labelled a infadel i will accept nothing more than his resignation or dismissal and will ensure this article is the last he rubber stamps in his life see you soon julian Timothy[/p][/quote]Why the **** did you goto a North West Infidels demo then your twit?[/p][/quote]you've spelt it wrong.[/p][/quote]i fully 100% agree with all the people who object to a (British) Bolton Newspaper allowing a stupid uneducated or inexperienced - (you decide which) young reporter Elaine O'Flynn to use the expression of infidels as a descriptive of non Muslims or white individuals. That in itself is discrimination! The Bolton News should retract her reporting and offer a front page apology! Elaine O'Flynn politics reporter! get real who is the editor who passed this rubbish low quality reporting? There is a lot of tripe written here about the problems of the middle east and the Jews Christians Muslims and others. But the situation here is about how the Muslim population is massively changing the face of Britain and specifically Bolton. When was the last time a church temple or synagogue in Bolton or anywhere in Britain caused such concerns? Other faiths religions nationalities and groups here are tolerant of each other, they do not ride rough shod over the societies and towns and cities they live in! Yet here the faith of Islam is doing just that with a wicked smirk and a barely disguised motive. When in the 1960's many immigrants took the chance to move to here and 'live with us' as did previous groups, like the Irish,the displaced from the 2nd WW, they moved because they wanted to live like the locals, US, lived like. They liked the honesty and the values and chances to be safe and progress and better themselves in this country. Yes there always was some problems but law and society changed things to help us and them live in understanding and peace. Currently were having those situations again with Eastern Europeans, and its obvious even now that that the flow of people from the UK is rarely INTO Eastern Europe or the Middle East, so we must still be doing something better here than over there, where ever 'there' is! You ask elder Asians if this is not the case! But now there is little integration, little take up of British values and cultures and little respect of individuals or societies that offered those opportunities. There was a great British saying - "when in Rome, do as the Romans do" previous generations did just that, but now in particular, Muslims are setting themselves up as a different class of people. They sneer at our heritage and culture and use our laws against us. I used to drive along Halliwell Road to work, recently i let a man cross over instead of waiting, when i passed him i waved him, and he gestured back with two fingers to me! Why? Racism! Simple things like good manners and tolerance are not even observed let alone practised seemingly any where, Anti Discrimination is insinuated every where from schools to shops to religions and politics. Halal is everywhere now, and why? Islam is meant to mean the peaceful way, but their book the Koran tells them to do terrible things, and over populate the planet to create a whole religion intolerant of others! Other religions have their books but like all they were written and rewritten centuries ago for small populations and since then the eye for an eye principle has been ignored and replaced by equality and cooperation. Muslims want the best of both worlds, Britain and Islam, well if you want to live in an Islamic country, do so then and go and leave Britain and live in peace in the many peaceful and tolerant countries offering equality to males and females, gays and lesbians, rich and poor, Muslims and non Muslims. Officially, (as proved by BMBC's stupid mistake of bending to the anti discrimination lobby and allowing another change to the original culture), there is no discrimination. On an individual or personal basis its only a small percentage, yes if its you its personally 100% but i have much more abuse from aggressive people than i have ever given! This has turned into a bit of a rant, but if you want to change things democratically do so, the majority of Bolton and the country is still non Muslim. USE YOUR VOTE AND MAKE YOUR COUNCILLORS DO WHAT YOU WANT THEM TO DO FOR YOU! wandererfornow
  • Score: 6

11:11am Sat 9 Aug 14

Bolton Loyal says...

johnnyjackson wrote:
Lynn57 wrote:
Lynn57 wrote:
Immy khan wrote:
It just shows how many uneducated low life racist pigs have been commented on this crapy news report wow it just makes you laugh
Learn how to spell you uneducated scum, how dare you call indigeous Brits pigs.
That should read indigenous, keyboard stuck. If Britain is so terrible why are you here? Why are we racist because mosques are being built in a Christian country?
I think you as a proud christian should worry about the christian Pedophile who has made front page news.

Get your own christian house in order before worrying about mosques.
Drop in the ocean compared to the systematic rape of children committed by Muslim males.
[quote][p][bold]johnnyjackson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lynn57[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lynn57[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Immy khan[/bold] wrote: It just shows how many uneducated low life racist pigs have been commented on this crapy news report wow it just makes you laugh[/p][/quote]Learn how to spell you uneducated scum, how dare you call indigeous Brits pigs.[/p][/quote]That should read indigenous, keyboard stuck. If Britain is so terrible why are you here? Why are we racist because mosques are being built in a Christian country?[/p][/quote]I think you as a proud christian should worry about the christian Pedophile who has made front page news. Get your own christian house in order before worrying about mosques.[/p][/quote]Drop in the ocean compared to the systematic rape of children committed by Muslim males. Bolton Loyal
  • Score: 26

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