Woman kicked in eye with stiletto heel after row on dancefloor at Ye Olde Three Crowns pub in Farnworth

Ye Olde Three Crowns in Higher Market Street, Farnworth.

Ye Olde Three Crowns in Higher Market Street, Farnworth.

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A WOMAN was left with "a serious eye injury" after being attacked on the dancefloor with a stiletto heel in a Farnworth pub.

The victim, who is still in hospital, was attacked after a row between two women and a man about 11.30pm on Sunday in Ye Olde Three Crowns pub in Higher Market Street.

The victim was kicked in the head before the attackers left the pub.

The 27-year-old was standing on the dance floor area and drinking when a row broke out between two women and a man

At one point, the victim was kicked in the head with a stiletto heel, leaving her with a serious eye injury.

Det Sgt Patrick Wood said: “From what we have been told, we believe a woman was part of this group and she kicked out at the victim.

"She was wearing high heeled shoes and it looks like the point of the heel has made contact with her eye.

“She is currently in hospital being treated for her injury.

“With it being a bank holiday, the pub was very busy and it is likely someone would have seen what happened.

"I would appeal to anyone who was there and saw what happened or indeed those involved to contact police.”

Two women, aged 21 and 28, and a 28-year-old man have been arrested on suspicion of causing grievous bodily harm. They are now in police custody for questioning.

Anyone with information can call police on 0161 8565608 or Crimestoppers, anonymously, on 0800 555111.

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12:12pm Tue 26 Aug 14

giraffe89 says...

As someone who has lived in Farnworth their whole life and has only been out drinking in Farnworth once this doesn't surprise me.

The one and only time I TRIED to have a drink in Farnworth I was in this pub and saw a disgustingly gruesome fight break out. I quickly left and wouldn't return if I was paid.

Hope the girl recovers and those responsible are caught and dealt with appropriately.
As someone who has lived in Farnworth their whole life and has only been out drinking in Farnworth once this doesn't surprise me. The one and only time I TRIED to have a drink in Farnworth I was in this pub and saw a disgustingly gruesome fight break out. I quickly left and wouldn't return if I was paid. Hope the girl recovers and those responsible are caught and dealt with appropriately. giraffe89
  • Score: 65

12:57pm Tue 26 Aug 14

lily says...

Alcohol fuelled bad temper again. Hope the lady with the injury is ok and doesn't lose her sight. Doubt whether the perpetrator will get more than a slapped wrist unfortunately.Seems if you are given a sentence you only serve half of it anyway.
Alcohol fuelled bad temper again. Hope the lady with the injury is ok and doesn't lose her sight. Doubt whether the perpetrator will get more than a slapped wrist unfortunately.Seems if you are given a sentence you only serve half of it anyway. lily
  • Score: 33

1:02pm Tue 26 Aug 14

bubble gum says...

I was in this pub a few years ago and the exact same thing happen to my daughter, all because she was dancing, and the local girls didn't like it never been back
I was in this pub a few years ago and the exact same thing happen to my daughter, all because she was dancing, and the local girls didn't like it never been back bubble gum
  • Score: 37

1:52pm Tue 26 Aug 14

nosynewsreader says...

Lived in farnworth all my life until 2 years ago I moved out. I'd never move back there again.
Lived in farnworth all my life until 2 years ago I moved out. I'd never move back there again. nosynewsreader
  • Score: 29

1:59pm Tue 26 Aug 14

mrs philainsy says...

Unfortunately I live in 3 mins walking distance of this Pub, and the story does not surprise me at all.

I hope the poor Girl recovers very soon, and the attackers are dealt with seriously.

No need for all this violent behaviour.
Unfortunately I live in 3 mins walking distance of this Pub, and the story does not surprise me at all. I hope the poor Girl recovers very soon, and the attackers are dealt with seriously. No need for all this violent behaviour. mrs philainsy
  • Score: 23

2:05pm Tue 26 Aug 14

longballs r us says...

No such thing as drinking responsibly. It's all or nothing!
No such thing as drinking responsibly. It's all or nothing! longballs r us
  • Score: 5

2:29pm Tue 26 Aug 14

Donkey Stone says...

The pub has very good cctv. This was collected by the police the same evening. If the people arrested are guilty then I hope they get sent down. Pack animal mentality.
The pub has very good cctv. This was collected by the police the same evening. If the people arrested are guilty then I hope they get sent down. Pack animal mentality. Donkey Stone
  • Score: 27

2:41pm Tue 26 Aug 14

melloj says...

giraffe89 wrote:
As someone who has lived in Farnworth their whole life and has only been out drinking in Farnworth once this doesn't surprise me.

The one and only time I TRIED to have a drink in Farnworth I was in this pub and saw a disgustingly gruesome fight break out. I quickly left and wouldn't return if I was paid.

Hope the girl recovers and those responsible are caught and dealt with appropriately.
Yup same here. Farnworthian born and bred, I've been out in Farnworth about 2 or 3 times and you can cut the tension with a knife in a Farnworth pub. Bolton or Manchester for me.
[quote][p][bold]giraffe89[/bold] wrote: As someone who has lived in Farnworth their whole life and has only been out drinking in Farnworth once this doesn't surprise me. The one and only time I TRIED to have a drink in Farnworth I was in this pub and saw a disgustingly gruesome fight break out. I quickly left and wouldn't return if I was paid. Hope the girl recovers and those responsible are caught and dealt with appropriately.[/p][/quote]Yup same here. Farnworthian born and bred, I've been out in Farnworth about 2 or 3 times and you can cut the tension with a knife in a Farnworth pub. Bolton or Manchester for me. melloj
  • Score: 22

4:36pm Tue 26 Aug 14

I, Ludicrous says...

I wouldn't go drinking in Farnworth, in fact, I just wouldn't go to Farnworth...........
. for anything....... ever!
I wouldn't go drinking in Farnworth, in fact, I just wouldn't go to Farnworth........... . for anything....... ever! I, Ludicrous
  • Score: 10

5:06pm Tue 26 Aug 14

Donkey Stone says...

I, Ludicrous wrote:
I wouldn't go drinking in Farnworth, in fact, I just wouldn't go to Farnworth...........

. for anything....... ever!
We won't miss you.
[quote][p][bold]I, Ludicrous[/bold] wrote: I wouldn't go drinking in Farnworth, in fact, I just wouldn't go to Farnworth........... . for anything....... ever![/p][/quote]We won't miss you. Donkey Stone
  • Score: -26

5:59pm Tue 26 Aug 14

swager123 says...

melloj wrote:
giraffe89 wrote:
As someone who has lived in Farnworth their whole life and has only been out drinking in Farnworth once this doesn't surprise me.

The one and only time I TRIED to have a drink in Farnworth I was in this pub and saw a disgustingly gruesome fight break out. I quickly left and wouldn't return if I was paid.

Hope the girl recovers and those responsible are caught and dealt with appropriately.
Yup same here. Farnworthian born and bred, I've been out in Farnworth about 2 or 3 times and you can cut the tension with a knife in a Farnworth pub. Bolton or Manchester for me.
I wouldn't even go into Bolton !
[quote][p][bold]melloj[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]giraffe89[/bold] wrote: As someone who has lived in Farnworth their whole life and has only been out drinking in Farnworth once this doesn't surprise me. The one and only time I TRIED to have a drink in Farnworth I was in this pub and saw a disgustingly gruesome fight break out. I quickly left and wouldn't return if I was paid. Hope the girl recovers and those responsible are caught and dealt with appropriately.[/p][/quote]Yup same here. Farnworthian born and bred, I've been out in Farnworth about 2 or 3 times and you can cut the tension with a knife in a Farnworth pub. Bolton or Manchester for me.[/p][/quote]I wouldn't even go into Bolton ! swager123
  • Score: 2

6:45pm Tue 26 Aug 14

MalcM59 says...

Is the advert in the middle of this article a deliberate piece of opportunist marketing, or just to show us stupid readers what a high heeled shoe looks like ?
Is the advert in the middle of this article a deliberate piece of opportunist marketing, or just to show us stupid readers what a high heeled shoe looks like ? MalcM59
  • Score: 9

6:54pm Tue 26 Aug 14

cath99 says...

ahhh farnworth my home town were else would this have happened with young drunk women and the displays of violence not surprised one bit .
ahhh farnworth my home town were else would this have happened with young drunk women and the displays of violence not surprised one bit . cath99
  • Score: 6

12:52am Wed 27 Aug 14

alien13 says...

my extraterrestrial friends wont go in any pubs or clubs round farnworth they say they don't like the atmosfear
my extraterrestrial friends wont go in any pubs or clubs round farnworth they say they don't like the atmosfear alien13
  • Score: 2

2:04am Wed 27 Aug 14

Chrome1 says...

Two sides to every story though. What if you got told that the woman who got kicked attacked a teenager and the other woman and man were just defending the child on the onset of a brutal assault. Not saying that is what happened but you have to keep an open mind. Bolton folk are weak minded and they will believe the first story that gets told.
Two sides to every story though. What if you got told that the woman who got kicked attacked a teenager and the other woman and man were just defending the child on the onset of a brutal assault. Not saying that is what happened but you have to keep an open mind. Bolton folk are weak minded and they will believe the first story that gets told. Chrome1
  • Score: -2

2:26am Wed 27 Aug 14

mr.mark.c says...

MalcM59 wrote:
Is the advert in the middle of this article a deliberate piece of opportunist marketing, or just to show us stupid readers what a high heeled shoe looks like ?
It's for stupid people that allow cookies thus allowing targeted ads.
Have you looked at heels recently ?
[quote][p][bold]MalcM59[/bold] wrote: Is the advert in the middle of this article a deliberate piece of opportunist marketing, or just to show us stupid readers what a high heeled shoe looks like ?[/p][/quote]It's for stupid people that allow cookies thus allowing targeted ads. Have you looked at heels recently ? mr.mark.c
  • Score: -6

4:19am Wed 27 Aug 14

SupeRed09 says...

Chrome1 wrote:
Two sides to every story though. What if you got told that the woman who got kicked attacked a teenager and the other woman and man were just defending the child on the onset of a brutal assault. Not saying that is what happened but you have to keep an open mind. Bolton folk are weak minded and they will believe the first story that gets told.
She was kicked in the head, you moron.
[quote][p][bold]Chrome1[/bold] wrote: Two sides to every story though. What if you got told that the woman who got kicked attacked a teenager and the other woman and man were just defending the child on the onset of a brutal assault. Not saying that is what happened but you have to keep an open mind. Bolton folk are weak minded and they will believe the first story that gets told.[/p][/quote]She was kicked in the head, you moron. SupeRed09
  • Score: 6

6:59am Wed 27 Aug 14

Chrome1 says...

SupeRed09 wrote:
Chrome1 wrote:
Two sides to every story though. What if you got told that the woman who got kicked attacked a teenager and the other woman and man were just defending the child on the onset of a brutal assault. Not saying that is what happened but you have to keep an open mind. Bolton folk are weak minded and they will believe the first story that gets told.
She was kicked in the head, you moron.
So you're related to the injured woman I see. Unwilling to hear both sides. What did I say about weak minded?
[quote][p][bold]SupeRed09[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chrome1[/bold] wrote: Two sides to every story though. What if you got told that the woman who got kicked attacked a teenager and the other woman and man were just defending the child on the onset of a brutal assault. Not saying that is what happened but you have to keep an open mind. Bolton folk are weak minded and they will believe the first story that gets told.[/p][/quote]She was kicked in the head, you moron.[/p][/quote]So you're related to the injured woman I see. Unwilling to hear both sides. What did I say about weak minded? Chrome1
  • Score: -10

1:00pm Wed 27 Aug 14

Donkey Stone says...

Chrome1 wrote:
SupeRed09 wrote:
Chrome1 wrote:
Two sides to every story though. What if you got told that the woman who got kicked attacked a teenager and the other woman and man were just defending the child on the onset of a brutal assault. Not saying that is what happened but you have to keep an open mind. Bolton folk are weak minded and they will believe the first story that gets told.
She was kicked in the head, you moron.
So you're related to the injured woman I see. Unwilling to hear both sides. What did I say about weak minded?
Many rumours are being chucked about. But they are only rumours.
[quote][p][bold]Chrome1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SupeRed09[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chrome1[/bold] wrote: Two sides to every story though. What if you got told that the woman who got kicked attacked a teenager and the other woman and man were just defending the child on the onset of a brutal assault. Not saying that is what happened but you have to keep an open mind. Bolton folk are weak minded and they will believe the first story that gets told.[/p][/quote]She was kicked in the head, you moron.[/p][/quote]So you're related to the injured woman I see. Unwilling to hear both sides. What did I say about weak minded?[/p][/quote]Many rumours are being chucked about. But they are only rumours. Donkey Stone
  • Score: 3

2:52pm Wed 27 Aug 14

I, Ludicrous says...

Donkey Stone wrote:
I, Ludicrous wrote:
I wouldn't go drinking in Farnworth, in fact, I just wouldn't go to Farnworth...........


. for anything....... ever!
We won't miss you.
Really? From what I can tell, the people Farnworth tend to be something of a crack shot!
[quote][p][bold]Donkey Stone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]I, Ludicrous[/bold] wrote: I wouldn't go drinking in Farnworth, in fact, I just wouldn't go to Farnworth........... . for anything....... ever![/p][/quote]We won't miss you.[/p][/quote]Really? From what I can tell, the people Farnworth tend to be something of a crack shot! I, Ludicrous
  • Score: 2

4:00pm Wed 27 Aug 14

supajohnmcginlay says...

I am 49 years old and have drank in Farnworth on a regular basis since I was 18, and if anyone think Farnworth is rough now then god knows what they would have thought about it in the 1980's! It's like a kindergarten today compared to then!
To be honest I think people are being vocal on here just because it is Farnworth when, in reality, incidents like this can, and do, happen at other pubs in other towns, particularly at 11.30pm on a Bank Holiday Sunday night when many people will be coming to the end of a marathon drinking session!
It's clearly a nasty incident and I hope the girl makes a full recovery, but this sort of thing isn't confined to Farnworth.
Farnworth is like any town in that it has pubs that are either better or worse than others! The Black Horse, The Britannia Inn and D Havillands Club are great places that would thrive in any town. Unfortunately you still have places like The Welcome Inn and Ye Old Three Crowns (Smokies to any local) that allow the younger crowd in too much. Smokies even has posters up saying that you need ID to get served if you look under 25 - that would cover 95% of the clientele most weekends!! I was in there recently and two lads in the toilets were just stood there blatently snorting cocaine - they couldn't even be bothered locking themselves in the cubicle together to do it!! Clearly the management there aren't doing enough to prevent this sort of behaviour.
Pubs need money investing in them and the problem is that most owners / landlords wont do this these days. The benefits are clear - just look at the Black Horse. A nice pub, good clientele and serves food. I've been going in there since I was a teenager and personally haven't seen any trouble there for over 25 years. It's only about 100 yards from Smokies by the way, but I bet 90% of the regulars in Smokies wouldn't be made welcome in the Black Horse!
There's no easy answer to issues like this, but a more visible police presence would be a good start. I cant remember the last time I saw a police officer come into a pub and just check around for problems / under age drinkers. If they did then that would help.
I am 49 years old and have drank in Farnworth on a regular basis since I was 18, and if anyone think Farnworth is rough now then god knows what they would have thought about it in the 1980's! It's like a kindergarten today compared to then! To be honest I think people are being vocal on here just because it is Farnworth when, in reality, incidents like this can, and do, happen at other pubs in other towns, particularly at 11.30pm on a Bank Holiday Sunday night when many people will be coming to the end of a marathon drinking session! It's clearly a nasty incident and I hope the girl makes a full recovery, but this sort of thing isn't confined to Farnworth. Farnworth is like any town in that it has pubs that are either better or worse than others! The Black Horse, The Britannia Inn and D Havillands Club are great places that would thrive in any town. Unfortunately you still have places like The Welcome Inn and Ye Old Three Crowns (Smokies to any local) that allow the younger crowd in too much. Smokies even has posters up saying that you need ID to get served if you look under 25 - that would cover 95% of the clientele most weekends!! I was in there recently and two lads in the toilets were just stood there blatently snorting cocaine - they couldn't even be bothered locking themselves in the cubicle together to do it!! Clearly the management there aren't doing enough to prevent this sort of behaviour. Pubs need money investing in them and the problem is that most owners / landlords wont do this these days. The benefits are clear - just look at the Black Horse. A nice pub, good clientele and serves food. I've been going in there since I was a teenager and personally haven't seen any trouble there for over 25 years. It's only about 100 yards from Smokies by the way, but I bet 90% of the regulars in Smokies wouldn't be made welcome in the Black Horse! There's no easy answer to issues like this, but a more visible police presence would be a good start. I cant remember the last time I saw a police officer come into a pub and just check around for problems / under age drinkers. If they did then that would help. supajohnmcginlay
  • Score: 8

7:16pm Wed 27 Aug 14

SupeRed09 says...

Chrome1 wrote:
SupeRed09 wrote:
Chrome1 wrote:
Two sides to every story though. What if you got told that the woman who got kicked attacked a teenager and the other woman and man were just defending the child on the onset of a brutal assault. Not saying that is what happened but you have to keep an open mind. Bolton folk are weak minded and they will believe the first story that gets told.
She was kicked in the head, you moron.
So you're related to the injured woman I see. Unwilling to hear both sides. What did I say about weak minded?
What is weak minded is thinking there is justificating for three adults - one of them a man - to strike to the ground and then kick someone in the head. Do you think these people got arrested for the fun of it? There is no excuse for such abhorrent violence, regardless of who started the argument.
[quote][p][bold]Chrome1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SupeRed09[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chrome1[/bold] wrote: Two sides to every story though. What if you got told that the woman who got kicked attacked a teenager and the other woman and man were just defending the child on the onset of a brutal assault. Not saying that is what happened but you have to keep an open mind. Bolton folk are weak minded and they will believe the first story that gets told.[/p][/quote]She was kicked in the head, you moron.[/p][/quote]So you're related to the injured woman I see. Unwilling to hear both sides. What did I say about weak minded?[/p][/quote]What is weak minded is thinking there is justificating for three adults - one of them a man - to strike to the ground and then kick someone in the head. Do you think these people got arrested for the fun of it? There is no excuse for such abhorrent violence, regardless of who started the argument. SupeRed09
  • Score: 6

9:18pm Wed 27 Aug 14

Donkey Stone says...

I, Ludicrous wrote:
Donkey Stone wrote:
I, Ludicrous wrote:
I wouldn't go drinking in Farnworth, in fact, I just wouldn't go to Farnworth...........



. for anything....... ever!
We won't miss you.
Really? From what I can tell, the people Farnworth tend to be something of a crack shot!
Maybe, but unlike you they don't have their heads up their own backsides. As I said, you won't be missed,now jog on.
[quote][p][bold]I, Ludicrous[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Donkey Stone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]I, Ludicrous[/bold] wrote: I wouldn't go drinking in Farnworth, in fact, I just wouldn't go to Farnworth........... . for anything....... ever![/p][/quote]We won't miss you.[/p][/quote]Really? From what I can tell, the people Farnworth tend to be something of a crack shot![/p][/quote]Maybe, but unlike you they don't have their heads up their own backsides. As I said, you won't be missed,now jog on. Donkey Stone
  • Score: 1

10:10pm Wed 27 Aug 14

mr.mark.c says...

Farnworth isn't bad hence the lack of policing, I don't go out in town much but if I did then it would be Farnworth rather than Bolton.
I live in Kearsley and the Moss Rose is a very friendly place for an evening out :)
Farnworth isn't bad hence the lack of policing, I don't go out in town much but if I did then it would be Farnworth rather than Bolton. I live in Kearsley and the Moss Rose is a very friendly place for an evening out :) mr.mark.c
  • Score: 2

1:42am Thu 28 Aug 14

alyartfs says...

Farnworth is rotten to the core with tradition. There's never been anywhere you can go and have a normal evening out. The pubs are full of disfuncional people who are behind the normal way of living.
Farnworth needs to change, and that will only happen with a good council making those changes .
Why should Farnworth behave like this, the majority of people who live there are great people who just want a normal community.
Farnworth is rotten to the core with tradition. There's never been anywhere you can go and have a normal evening out. The pubs are full of disfuncional people who are behind the normal way of living. Farnworth needs to change, and that will only happen with a good council making those changes . Why should Farnworth behave like this, the majority of people who live there are great people who just want a normal community. alyartfs
  • Score: 0

2:04am Thu 28 Aug 14

mr.mark.c says...

alyartfs wrote:
Farnworth is rotten to the core with tradition. There's never been anywhere you can go and have a normal evening out. The pubs are full of disfuncional people who are behind the normal way of living.
Farnworth needs to change, and that will only happen with a good council making those changes .
Why should Farnworth behave like this, the majority of people who live there are great people who just want a normal community.
Burn the witch, or infidel depending on religious belief, maybe a good tar and feather.
[quote][p][bold]alyartfs[/bold] wrote: Farnworth is rotten to the core with tradition. There's never been anywhere you can go and have a normal evening out. The pubs are full of disfuncional people who are behind the normal way of living. Farnworth needs to change, and that will only happen with a good council making those changes . Why should Farnworth behave like this, the majority of people who live there are great people who just want a normal community.[/p][/quote]Burn the witch, or infidel depending on religious belief, maybe a good tar and feather. mr.mark.c
  • Score: 0

4:36pm Thu 28 Aug 14

barry g says...

What are you all worried about, it happened in Farnworth, their just 1 big family. Let em get on with it.
What are you all worried about, it happened in Farnworth, their just 1 big family. Let em get on with it. barry g
  • Score: 0

6:21am Sun 7 Sep 14

martynbrooks says...

supajohnmcginlay wrote:
I am 49 years old and have drank in Farnworth on a regular basis since I was 18, and if anyone think Farnworth is rough now then god knows what they would have thought about it in the 1980's! It's like a kindergarten today compared to then!
To be honest I think people are being vocal on here just because it is Farnworth when, in reality, incidents like this can, and do, happen at other pubs in other towns, particularly at 11.30pm on a Bank Holiday Sunday night when many people will be coming to the end of a marathon drinking session!
It's clearly a nasty incident and I hope the girl makes a full recovery, but this sort of thing isn't confined to Farnworth.
Farnworth is like any town in that it has pubs that are either better or worse than others! The Black Horse, The Britannia Inn and D Havillands Club are great places that would thrive in any town. Unfortunately you still have places like The Welcome Inn and Ye Old Three Crowns (Smokies to any local) that allow the younger crowd in too much. Smokies even has posters up saying that you need ID to get served if you look under 25 - that would cover 95% of the clientele most weekends!! I was in there recently and two lads in the toilets were just stood there blatently snorting cocaine - they couldn't even be bothered locking themselves in the cubicle together to do it!! Clearly the management there aren't doing enough to prevent this sort of behaviour.
Pubs need money investing in them and the problem is that most owners / landlords wont do this these days. The benefits are clear - just look at the Black Horse. A nice pub, good clientele and serves food. I've been going in there since I was a teenager and personally haven't seen any trouble there for over 25 years. It's only about 100 yards from Smokies by the way, but I bet 90% of the regulars in Smokies wouldn't be made welcome in the Black Horse!
There's no easy answer to issues like this, but a more visible police presence would be a good start. I cant remember the last time I saw a police officer come into a pub and just check around for problems / under age drinkers. If they did then that would help.
Farnworth is much worst now than it was in the 80s and will not get any better while the idiots of farnworth keep labour in charge of the council.
[quote][p][bold]supajohnmcginlay[/bold] wrote: I am 49 years old and have drank in Farnworth on a regular basis since I was 18, and if anyone think Farnworth is rough now then god knows what they would have thought about it in the 1980's! It's like a kindergarten today compared to then! To be honest I think people are being vocal on here just because it is Farnworth when, in reality, incidents like this can, and do, happen at other pubs in other towns, particularly at 11.30pm on a Bank Holiday Sunday night when many people will be coming to the end of a marathon drinking session! It's clearly a nasty incident and I hope the girl makes a full recovery, but this sort of thing isn't confined to Farnworth. Farnworth is like any town in that it has pubs that are either better or worse than others! The Black Horse, The Britannia Inn and D Havillands Club are great places that would thrive in any town. Unfortunately you still have places like The Welcome Inn and Ye Old Three Crowns (Smokies to any local) that allow the younger crowd in too much. Smokies even has posters up saying that you need ID to get served if you look under 25 - that would cover 95% of the clientele most weekends!! I was in there recently and two lads in the toilets were just stood there blatently snorting cocaine - they couldn't even be bothered locking themselves in the cubicle together to do it!! Clearly the management there aren't doing enough to prevent this sort of behaviour. Pubs need money investing in them and the problem is that most owners / landlords wont do this these days. The benefits are clear - just look at the Black Horse. A nice pub, good clientele and serves food. I've been going in there since I was a teenager and personally haven't seen any trouble there for over 25 years. It's only about 100 yards from Smokies by the way, but I bet 90% of the regulars in Smokies wouldn't be made welcome in the Black Horse! There's no easy answer to issues like this, but a more visible police presence would be a good start. I cant remember the last time I saw a police officer come into a pub and just check around for problems / under age drinkers. If they did then that would help.[/p][/quote]Farnworth is much worst now than it was in the 80s and will not get any better while the idiots of farnworth keep labour in charge of the council. martynbrooks
  • Score: 0

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