Bolton MP: 'We are right to close Post Offices'
BOLTON North-East MP David Crausby has defended his decision to vote for the controversial closure of more than 2,500 Post Offices.
Mr Crausby said the programme of closures was necessary to ensure the survival of the business.
The Government narrowly avoided an embarrassing defeat in the Commons this week over their plans to close the Post Offices. Labour's majority was reduced to just 20, with Lib Dems and Tories voting together.
The first wave of Post Office closures has been announced across the country, those facing the axe in Greater Manchester due to be announced in June.
Deborah Dunlevy, prospective parliamentary candidate for Bolton North-east, said: "We know which Labour Ministers and MPs are against Post Office closures.
"I am very disappointed that David Crausby MP voted for Post Office closures in Bolton North East. The people of Bolton rely on not only the precious services they offer, but in many places the vital part of the community they play. Not everybody is able to travel three miles to access one.
"We should be helping the Post Offices offer more services rather than closing them down."
But Mr Crausby said the Labour Party would commit £1.7 billion to the business.
He also said he would fight to keep local Post Offices open if they served a need in the community.
Mr Crausby said: "Leaving the Post Office to market forces would lead to the closure of more branches. The Conservatives want to suspend the programme of Post Office closures but won't commit any money.
"Under their proposal 10,000 branches would close."
He added: "The post office network does serve an important need but cannot survive in its current form. We need to have a look at the network and for example cannot have a two close to each other. If I disagree with a closure I will fight it."
Mr Crausby said a way to ensure the viability of the Post Office was for the public to use them.
Mrs Dunlevy said that, under the Conservatives, services, such as buying a television licence, would be reinstated.
She said: "Mr Crausby cannot fight to keep a post office open once he has voted for the programme."
1:03pm Friday 21st March 2008
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CommentPosted by: Tubby Scruff on 1:50pm Fri 21 Mar 08
What a hypocrite David Causby has become.
To vote for closure, the say I'll fight ? Doesn't make sense, you either agree or disagree and not depending on which hat your wearing.
What is the point in closing P.O.'s, them giving them £1.7 billion?
And for once, Ms. Dunleavy has showed some common sense. I heard the interview with the dippy hippy guy in charge of closures on NWT, don't know what he'd been on but he didn't make sense either, all ifs a buts, talk about sitting on the fence.
The big boss Crozier ? As slippery as they come.
What a hypocrite David Causby has become.
To vote for closure, the say I'll fight ? Doesn't make sense, you either agree or disagree and not depending on which hat your wearing.
What is the point in closing P.O.'s, them giving them £1.7 billion?
And for once, Ms. Dunleavy has showed some common sense. I heard the interview with the dippy hippy guy in charge of closures on NWT, don't know what he'd been on but he didn't make sense either, all ifs a buts, talk about sitting on the fence.
The big boss Crozier ? As slippery as they come.
Posted by: RockyRereturns, Bicester on 3:49pm Fri 21 Mar 08
Tony Blairs best mate Tubby
Tony Blairs best mate Tubby
Posted by: RockyRereturns, Bicester on 4:11pm Fri 21 Mar 08
Crausby.
NO you weren't ...
Big mistake supporting post office closures.
Crausby.
NO you weren't ...
Big mistake supporting post office closures.
Posted by: markd, bolton on 4:36pm Fri 21 Mar 08
Its the pensioners i feel for. How many will end up having to travel a lot further to get their pittence of a pension, and how many will have their health deteriorate because of it?
Its the pensioners i feel for. How many will end up having to travel a lot further to get their pittence of a pension, and how many will have their health deteriorate because of it?
Posted by: Breightmetblogger, bolton on 5:13pm Fri 21 Mar 08
Bit of a daft thing for Crausby to say he'll fight to keep them open in his constituency yet voting at parliament for the closure programme.
However Dunleavy isnt fooling anyone. Its OK saying "we're against closing post offices", and then not committ any funding to prevent them closing. Posturing again from the MP wanabee.
If post office are to be kept open across the country then money has to be found to do it. Apparaently the £1.7 billion being put into them isnt enough!
Bit of a daft thing for Crausby to say he'll fight to keep them open in his constituency yet voting at parliament for the closure programme.
However Dunleavy isnt fooling anyone. Its OK saying "we're against closing post offices", and then not committ any funding to prevent them closing. Posturing again from the MP wanabee.
If post office are to be kept open across the country then money has to be found to do it. Apparaently the £1.7 billion being put into them isnt enough!
Posted by: Breightmetblogger, bolton on 5:14pm Fri 21 Mar 08
Bit of a daft thing for Crausby to say he'll fight to keep them open in his constituency yet voting at parliament for the closure programme.
However Dunleavy isnt fooling anyone. Its OK saying "we're against closing post offices", and then not committ any funding to prevent them closing. Posturing again from the MP wanabee.
If post office are to be kept open across the country then money has to be found to do it. Apparaently the £1.7 billion being put into them isnt enough!
Bit of a daft thing for Crausby to say he'll fight to keep them open in his constituency yet voting at parliament for the closure programme.
However Dunleavy isnt fooling anyone. Its OK saying "we're against closing post offices", and then not committ any funding to prevent them closing. Posturing again from the MP wanabee.
If post office are to be kept open across the country then money has to be found to do it. Apparaently the £1.7 billion being put into them isnt enough!
Posted by: Tubby Scruff on 5:45pm Fri 21 Mar 08
[quote]Apparaently the £1.7 billion being put into them isnt enough![/quote]
So why come out with nonsense ? If its not enough, then surely its a waste ? Doesn't matter though, its only £1.7 billion of our money, say it quickly, doesn't sound so much.
If they'd left them to core and traditional services, many of these wouldn't need to close. Instead this governemt have made it easier to snoop on you by "reform".
More eradication of tradition.
Apparaently the £1.7 billion being put into them isnt enough!
So why come out with nonsense ? If its not enough, then surely its a waste ? Doesn't matter though, its only £1.7 billion of our money, say it quickly, doesn't sound so much.
If they'd left them to core and traditional services, many of these wouldn't need to close. Instead this governemt have made it easier to snoop on you by "reform".
More eradication of tradition.
Posted by: wes t howfen, howfen on 6:52pm Fri 21 Mar 08
Go and join the tory party,Crausby.There aint a socialist amongst the so-called labour party any more.SHAME ON YOU ALL.Come the revolution....
Go and join the tory party,Crausby.There aint a socialist amongst the so-called labour party any more.SHAME ON YOU ALL.Come the revolution....
Posted by: donmarg, devon on 7:48pm Fri 21 Mar 08
Dear Minister,
how true is this
I'm in the process of renewing my passport but I am a total loss to understand or believe the hoops I am being asked to jump through. How is it that Bert Smith of T.V. Rentals in Basingstoke has my address and telephone number and knows that I bought a satellite dish from them back in 1994, and yet, the Government is still asking me where I was born and on what date?
How come that nice West African immigrant chappy who comes round every Thursday night with his DVD rentals van can tell me every film or video I have had out since he started his business up eleven years ago, yet you still want me to remind you of my last three jobs, two of which were with contractors working for the government?
How come the T.V. detector van can tell if my T.V. is on, what channel I am watching and whether I have paid my licence or not, and yet if I win the government run lottery they have no idea I have won or where I am and will keep the bloody money to themselves if I fail to claim in good time.
Do you people do this by hand?
You have my birth date on numerous files you hold on me, including the one with all the income tax forms I've filed for the past 40-odd years. It's on my health insurance card, my driver's licence, on the last four passports I've had, on all those stupid customs declaration forms I've had to fill out before being allowed off the planes and boats over the last 30 years, and all those insufferable census forms that are done every ten years and the electoral registration forms I have to complete, by law, every time our lords and masters are up for re-election.
Would somebody please take note, once and for all, I was born in Maidenhead on the 4th of March 1957, my mother's name is Mary, her maiden name was Reynolds, my father's name is Robert, and I'd be absolutely astounded if that ever changed between now and the day I die!
I apologise Minister. I'm obviously not myself this morning. But between you and me, I have simply had enough! You mail the application to my house, then you ask me for my address. What is going on?
Do you have a gang of Neanderthals working there? Look at my **** picture. Do I look like Bin Laden? I don't want to activate the Fifth Reich for God's sake! I just want to go and park my weary backside on a sunny, sandy beach for a couple of week's well-earned rest away from all this crap.
Well, I have to go now, because I have to go to back to Salisbury and get another copy of my birth certificate because you lost the last one. AND to the tune of 60 quid! What a racket THAT is!! Would it be so complicated to have all the services in the same spot to assist in the issuance of a new passport the same day? But nooooo, that'd be too **** easy and maybe make sense. You'd rather have us running all over the place like chickens with our heads cut off, then find some tosser to confirm that it's really me on the **** picture - you know... the one where we're not allowed to smile in case we look as if we are enjoying the process!
Hey, you know why we can't smile? 'Cause we're totally fed up! I served in the armed forces for more than 25 years including over ten years at the Ministry of Defence in London. I have had security clearances which allowed me to sit in the Cabinet Office, five seats away from the Prime Minister while he was being briefed on the first Gulf War and I have been doing volunteer work for the British Red Cross ever since I left the Services. However, I have to get someone 'important' to verify who I am -- you know, someone like my doctor...
Who, before he got his medical degree 6 months ago.........
WAS BORN AND RAISED IN PAKISTAN!!!
Yours sincerely,
An Irate British Citizen
Dear Minister,
how true is this
I'm in the process of renewing my passport but I am a total loss to understand or believe the hoops I am being asked to jump through. How is it that Bert Smith of T.V. Rentals in Basingstoke has my address and telephone number and knows that I bought a satellite dish from them back in 1994, and yet, the Government is still asking me where I was born and on what date?
How come that nice West African immigrant chappy who comes round every Thursday night with his DVD rentals van can tell me every film or video I have had out since he started his business up eleven years ago, yet you still want me to remind you of my last three jobs, two of which were with contractors working for the government?
How come the T.V. detector van can tell if my T.V. is on, what channel I am watching and whether I have paid my licence or not, and yet if I win the government run lottery they have no idea I have won or where I am and will keep the bloody money to themselves if I fail to claim in good time.
Do you people do this by hand?
You have my birth date on numerous files you hold on me, including the one with all the income tax forms I've filed for the past 40-odd years. It's on my health insurance card, my driver's licence, on the last four passports I've had, on all those stupid customs declaration forms I've had to fill out before being allowed off the planes and boats over the last 30 years, and all those insufferable census forms that are done every ten years and the electoral registration forms I have to complete, by law, every time our lords and masters are up for re-election.
Would somebody please take note, once and for all, I was born in Maidenhead on the 4th of March 1957, my mother's name is Mary, her maiden name was Reynolds, my father's name is Robert, and I'd be absolutely astounded if that ever changed between now and the day I die!
I apologise Minister. I'm obviously not myself this morning. But between you and me, I have simply had enough! You mail the application to my house, then you ask me for my address. What is going on?
Do you have a gang of Neanderthals working there? Look at my **** picture. Do I look like Bin Laden? I don't want to activate the Fifth Reich for God's sake! I just want to go and park my weary backside on a sunny, sandy beach for a couple of week's well-earned rest away from all this crap.
Well, I have to go now, because I have to go to back to Salisbury and get another copy of my birth certificate because you lost the last one. AND to the tune of 60 quid! What a racket THAT is!! Would it be so complicated to have all the services in the same spot to assist in the issuance of a new passport the same day? But nooooo, that'd be too **** easy and maybe make sense. You'd rather have us running all over the place like chickens with our heads cut off, then find some tosser to confirm that it's really me on the **** picture - you know... the one where we're not allowed to smile in case we look as if we are enjoying the process!
Hey, you know why we can't smile? 'Cause we're totally fed up! I served in the armed forces for more than 25 years including over ten years at the Ministry of Defence in London. I have had security clearances which allowed me to sit in the Cabinet Office, five seats away from the Prime Minister while he was being briefed on the first Gulf War and I have been doing volunteer work for the British Red Cross ever since I left the Services. However, I have to get someone 'important' to verify who I am -- you know, someone like my doctor...
Who, before he got his medical degree 6 months ago.........
WAS BORN AND RAISED IN PAKISTAN!!!
Yours sincerely,
An Irate British Citizen
Posted by: wes t howfen, howfen on 10:37pm Fri 21 Mar 08
Donmarg,spot on my friend.When will the public wake up and smell the STENCH thats been made by brown,and before him,yankee poodle-runningdog,li
pspittle bliar(yep,I spelt it right,cos he lied,liedlied)
Donmarg,spot on my friend.When will the public wake up and smell the STENCH thats been made by brown,and before him,yankee poodle-runningdog,li
pspittle bliar(yep,I spelt it right,cos he lied,liedlied)
Posted by: tosh on 8:26am Sat 22 Mar 08
Donmarg, I am in total awe of your letter, it sums up everything that is wrong with this rotten nannie state that has evolved during my lifetime. When I retired and got my pension. I worked all my life, sometimes at tuppenny ha'pny jobs when the kids were small I was urged to pay a married womans stamp (married 43years) I now only receive £57 week. A proportion of my pension. They certainly remembered my details although I only paid a married womans stamp (times were hard with two kids) in 1967 till 1972. After that I had better payed jobs. When I retired, I offered to pay the difference, they refused my offer. Yet this country opens its doors to all and sundry and even pays for children living abroad. We are being govened by a pack of moronic pathalogicial liars, that have Knee-jerked their way through the last ten years,and have created more 'laws' than any other govenment ever. Why anyone is surprised at Crausby sitting on the fence amazes me.
Donmarg, I am in total awe of your letter, it sums up everything that is wrong with this rotten nannie state that has evolved during my lifetime. When I retired and got my pension. I worked all my life, sometimes at tuppenny ha'pny jobs when the kids were small I was urged to pay a married womans stamp (married 43years) I now only receive £57 week. A proportion of my pension. They certainly remembered my details although I only paid a married womans stamp (times were hard with two kids) in 1967 till 1972. After that I had better payed jobs. When I retired, I offered to pay the difference, they refused my offer. Yet this country opens its doors to all and sundry and even pays for children living abroad. We are being govened by a pack of moronic pathalogicial liars, that have Knee-jerked their way through the last ten years,and have created more 'laws' than any other govenment ever. Why anyone is surprised at Crausby sitting on the fence amazes me.
Posted by: RockyRereturns, Bicester on 9:33am Sat 22 Mar 08
[quote][bold]donmarg[/bold] wrote:
Dear Minister,
how true is this
I'm in the process of renewing my passport but I am a total loss to understand or believe the hoops I am being asked to jump through. How is it that Bert Smith of T.V. Rentals in Basingstoke has my address and telephone number and knows that I bought a satellite dish from them back in 1994, and yet, the Government is still asking me where I was born and on what date?
How come that nice West African immigrant chappy who comes round every Thursday night with his DVD rentals van can tell me every film or video I have had out since he started his business up eleven years ago, yet you still want me to remind you of my last three jobs, two of which were with contractors working for the government?
How come the T.V. detector van can tell if my T.V. is on, what channel I am watching and whether I have paid my licence or not, and yet if I win the government run lottery they have no idea I have won or where I am and will keep the bloody money to themselves if I fail to claim in good time.
Do you people do this by hand?
You have my birth date on numerous files you hold on me, including the one with all the income tax forms I've filed for the past 40-odd years. It's on my health insurance card, my driver's licence, on the last four passports I've had, on all those stupid customs declaration forms I've had to fill out before being allowed off the planes and boats over the last 30 years, and all those insufferable census forms that are done every ten years and the electoral registration forms I have to complete, by law, every time our lords and masters are up for re-election.
Would somebody please take note, once and for all, I was born in Maidenhead on the 4th of March 1957, my mother's name is Mary, her maiden name was Reynolds, my father's name is Robert, and I'd be absolutely astounded if that ever changed between now and the day I die!
I apologise Minister. I'm obviously not myself this morning. But between you and me, I have simply had enough! You mail the application to my house, then you ask me for my address. What is going on?
Do you have a gang of Neanderthals working there? Look at my **** picture. Do I look like Bin Laden? I don't want to activate the Fifth Reich for God's sake! I just want to go and park my weary backside on a sunny, sandy beach for a couple of week's well-earned rest away from all this crap.
Well, I have to go now, because I have to go to back to Salisbury and get another copy of my birth certificate because you lost the last one. AND to the tune of 60 quid! What a racket THAT is!! Would it be so complicated to have all the services in the same spot to assist in the issuance of a new passport the same day? But nooooo, that'd be too **** easy and maybe make sense. You'd rather have us running all over the place like chickens with our heads cut off, then find some tosser to confirm that it's really me on the **** picture - you know... the one where we're not allowed to smile in case we look as if we are enjoying the process!
Hey, you know why we can't smile? 'Cause we're totally fed up! I served in the armed forces for more than 25 years including over ten years at the Ministry of Defence in London. I have had security clearances which allowed me to sit in the Cabinet Office, five seats away from the Prime Minister while he was being briefed on the first Gulf War and I have been doing volunteer work for the British Red Cross ever since I left the Services. However, I have to get someone 'important' to verify who I am -- you know, someone like my doctor...
Who, before he got his medical degree 6 months ago.........
WAS BORN AND RAISED IN PAKISTAN!!!
Yours sincerely,
An Irate British Citizen
[/quote] It is the governments attempt to justify ID cards.
They will say if we all had and ID cards and system these problems wouldn't happen.
Be careful..
Be very very careful.
donmarg wrote:
Dear Minister,
how true is this
I'm in the process of renewing my passport but I am a total loss to understand or believe the hoops I am being asked to jump through. How is it that Bert Smith of T.V. Rentals in Basingstoke has my address and telephone number and knows that I bought a satellite dish from them back in 1994, and yet, the Government is still asking me where I was born and on what date?
How come that nice West African immigrant chappy who comes round every Thursday night with his DVD rentals van can tell me every film or video I have had out since he started his business up eleven years ago, yet you still want me to remind you of my last three jobs, two of which were with contractors working for the government?
How come the T.V. detector van can tell if my T.V. is on, what channel I am watching and whether I have paid my licence or not, and yet if I win the government run lottery they have no idea I have won or where I am and will keep the bloody money to themselves if I fail to claim in good time.
Do you people do this by hand?
You have my birth date on numerous files you hold on me, including the one with all the income tax forms I've filed for the past 40-odd years. It's on my health insurance card, my driver's licence, on the last four passports I've had, on all those stupid customs declaration forms I've had to fill out before being allowed off the planes and boats over the last 30 years, and all those insufferable census forms that are done every ten years and the electoral registration forms I have to complete, by law, every time our lords and masters are up for re-election.
Would somebody please take note, once and for all, I was born in Maidenhead on the 4th of March 1957, my mother's name is Mary, her maiden name was Reynolds, my father's name is Robert, and I'd be absolutely astounded if that ever changed between now and the day I die!
I apologise Minister. I'm obviously not myself this morning. But between you and me, I have simply had enough! You mail the application to my house, then you ask me for my address. What is going on?
Do you have a gang of Neanderthals working there? Look at my **** picture. Do I look like Bin Laden? I don't want to activate the Fifth Reich for God's sake! I just want to go and park my weary backside on a sunny, sandy beach for a couple of week's well-earned rest away from all this crap.
Well, I have to go now, because I have to go to back to Salisbury and get another copy of my birth certificate because you lost the last one. AND to the tune of 60 quid! What a racket THAT is!! Would it be so complicated to have all the services in the same spot to assist in the issuance of a new passport the same day? But nooooo, that'd be too **** easy and maybe make sense. You'd rather have us running all over the place like chickens with our heads cut off, then find some tosser to confirm that it's really me on the **** picture - you know... the one where we're not allowed to smile in case we look as if we are enjoying the process!
Hey, you know why we can't smile? 'Cause we're totally fed up! I served in the armed forces for more than 25 years including over ten years at the Ministry of Defence in London. I have had security clearances which allowed me to sit in the Cabinet Office, five seats away from the Prime Minister while he was being briefed on the first Gulf War and I have been doing volunteer work for the British Red Cross ever since I left the Services. However, I have to get someone 'important' to verify who I am -- you know, someone like my doctor...
Who, before he got his medical degree 6 months ago.........
WAS BORN AND RAISED IN PAKISTAN!!!
Yours sincerely,
An Irate British Citizen
It is the governments attempt to justify ID cards.
They will say if we all had and ID cards and system these problems wouldn't happen.
Be careful..
Be very very careful.
Posted by: donmarg, devon on 10:58am Sat 22 Mar 08
Tosh no where you coming from,
We get £144.86 per week for two of us to live on,
I had a private pension not a big one,
This was deducted from the state pension
and i get taxed on it,
Joe blogs goes out on the beer every night saves for nothing and gets the full pension,
Who are the mugs,
Like you say they come over here claim for kids back home and we foot the bill,
Can you blame the scroungers for taking addvantage i dont whish i had done it years ago.
And they say crime dont pay,
Tosh no where you coming from,
We get £144.86 per week for two of us to live on,
I had a private pension not a big one,
This was deducted from the state pension
and i get taxed on it,
Joe blogs goes out on the beer every night saves for nothing and gets the full pension,
Who are the mugs,
Like you say they come over here claim for kids back home and we foot the bill,
Can you blame the scroungers for taking addvantage i dont whish i had done it years ago.
And they say crime dont pay,
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