Smithills Coaching House will become homes

Smithills Coaching House will become homes Smithills Coaching House will become homes

CONTROVERSIAL plans to transform Smithills Coaching House into homes have been approved.

Planning bosses have given the go-ahead for the Grade II listed building to be converted into eight homes.

A further 21 homes will be built on greenbelt land — in a bid to save the historic building.

The decision to transform the former restaurant, which closed in August, was taken at a special planning meeting yesterday.

But those against the plans say the fight to save the site from development is not over because the final decision lies with the Secretary of State.

Developers Jones Homes put forward the proposals.

There has been widespread public opposition to the plans, as well as from the Civic Trust, English Heritage and councillors.

More than 30 letters of objections were sent to Bolton Council, with one describing the site as a “sacred historic place”.

Bolton Council’s planning department recommended the application be approved, claiming the proposal would save a piece of Bolton’s history and, without it, the building could fall in disrepair.

It has already been targeted by vandals and thieves.

Planning officer John Berry said the plans provided “ an opportunity to secure the future of the Coaching House now” and added the proposals were considered to be a “sympathetic conversion”.

Cllr Roger Hayes spoke against the planning application. He said: “A major argument put in favour of the application is that this is the only way to save Smithills Coaching House and the public interest of doing this outweighs any damage that would be done. This is not the only way to save the Coaching House.

“The applicant is using the implied threat that if this is not allowed, the Coaching House will rot.

“English Heritage recommends that, if the building deteriorates whilst vacant, the council should consider service of an Urgent Works notice.

English Heritage is prepared to consider underwriting risks and costs.”

He added that he had been approached by three other potential buyers and a leisure use would be better suited, which would “provide employment to replace the 30 jobs lost when the restaurant closed”.

Bradshaw councillor Mudasir Dean described the decision as a “very sad day for the heritage in Bolton”. He added: “I don’t believe this was the right way forward for the Coaching House.”

But other councillors argued the development was the only option of saving the Coaching House — despite calls by members to see if other potential buyers for the site would come forward.

Cllr Linda Thomas said: “I think the development is the only means of keeping the Coaching House sustainable and it would a big gamble to refuse or defer it.”

Cllr Andy Morgan added: “It is quite clear that the Coaching House is deteriorating as we speak.

I think the Coaching House is at risk now. We need to make a decision now. If we do nothing, we lose the Coaching House.”

Comments(22)

boltonnut says...
1:32pm Fri 14 Dec 12

I've just seen a photo of the disgusting state of Smithhills' coaching house,Bolton council should hang their head in shame.It was their responsibility for maintaining the condition of the property until a decision was made as to its future.Maybe this was planned,let it go to wrack and ruin then its of no use,might as well build some houses,perhaps afew bob for me and thee in it fellow counciior,wink, wink.I do not live in Bolton now but I visit quite often,I hope on my next visit I don't find (affordable housing) adorning the site of Samuel Crompton's museum.

Crazy 38 says...
1:41pm Fri 14 Dec 12

Just like the builders who wanted to build on the former pub in horwich..the greenwood arms.....if they don't get their own way...they will probably get someone to set fire to it until it becomes an "unsafe" ...then they will get the land in the end....I think the greenwood arms should be rebuilt or sold to someone else other than the ppl who have been fighting for it...coz I think they have been fighting dirty for it...

J_Walsh83 says...
1:50pm Fri 14 Dec 12

It's a shame it will become homes but if I think about old historic buildings that were knocked down instead of restored, it seems a good idea.
I'd have loved developers to have taken over Lord Leverhulmes property in Rivington rather than it being destroyed.

kieth57 says...
2:39pm Fri 14 Dec 12

The picture is like our council DISGUSTING.

PMW35/7 says...
3:21pm Fri 14 Dec 12

This picture looks almost as bad as the swill they unenthusiastically plonked on my table last time I visited. Good riddance!

malcome says...
3:43pm Fri 14 Dec 12

What an absolute shame....Spent many happy hours there ordering "Joe the Fat boy" meal and the "Desert Surprise" with the sparklers.
It might have not been 3 star Michelin...But it was reasonable grub at a reasonable price, in a great setting.
Just another Bolton institution that's disappeared.....Some might call this nostalgia, but others might realize that money, profit and greed are bringing this once great town to its knees.....Next to go will be "Ye Olde Pastie Shop"

malcome says...
3:46pm Fri 14 Dec 12

boltonnut wrote:
I've just seen a photo of the disgusting state of Smithhills' coaching house,Bolton council should hang their head in shame.It was their responsibility for maintaining the condition of the property until a decision was made as to its future.Maybe this was planned,let it go to wrack and ruin then its of no use,might as well build some houses,perhaps afew bob for me and thee in it fellow counciior,wink, wink.I do not live in Bolton now but I visit quite often,I hope on my next visit I don't find (affordable housing) adorning the site of Samuel Crompton's museum.
A very cynical comment.....But probably true and from the heart !

malcome says...
3:48pm Fri 14 Dec 12

kieth57 wrote:
The picture is like our council DISGUSTING.
Here, Here.... Couldn't agree more

Boltontoday says...
4:44pm Fri 14 Dec 12

Remember the building is not owned by the council so how is it their responsibility to maintain it?

Wigan Trotter says...
5:34pm Fri 14 Dec 12

Surely it should be a listed building and not allowed to be a housing site. Bolton Council should hang their heads in shame over their diabolical decision.

Andyroost says...
6:09pm Fri 14 Dec 12

Money Talks, Watch for the next Head of Planning to leave with a big handout, funny how his/her bank doesnt ballance, only saying what everyone is thinking, corrupt!

DouglasMills says...
6:34pm Fri 14 Dec 12

Idiotic comments

Boff says...
7:11pm Fri 14 Dec 12

Complete and utter contempt. Whilst those in power are now rubbing their hands after the dirt from the backhanders has dimished, the entire council should resign and donate their pensions to friends of the Earth. Never in my whole life have I seen such a whitewash.

Remember, the only occupants able to dwell here will be bloated millionaires who don't give a stuff about the countryside. How long will it be before they complain from the noise of the nearby farm and other country smells!

Bendix says...
6:16am Sat 15 Dec 12

Who owns the site? Does cliff Morris still have an interest?

stantheman133 says...
2:43pm Sat 15 Dec 12

What an absolute shame....Spent many happy hours there ordering "Joe the Fat boy" meal and the "Desert Surprise" with the sparklers.
It might have not been 3 star Michelin...But it was reasonable grub at a reasonable price, in a great setting.
Just another Bolton institution that's disappeared.....Some might call this nostalgia, but others might realize that money, profit and greed are bringing this once great town to its knees.....Next to go will be "Ye Olde Pastie Shop
I remember all this as well, my late wife loved the place glad she is not here to see it go.

sallyupsteps says...
10:36pm Sat 15 Dec 12

Bendix wrote:
Who owns the site? Does cliff Morris still have an interest?
Last time I knew the Clark family bought iit at a discount due to the fact that they were sitting tenants. Therefore they got a huge reduction. Could the fact that Alan was Mayor at the time and brother Donald have anything to do with it? Cyril Morris was only the doorman at this time..

sallyupsteps says...
10:38pm Sat 15 Dec 12

sallyupsteps wrote:
Bendix wrote:
Who owns the site? Does cliff Morris still have an interest?
Last time I knew the Clark family bought iit at a discount due to the fact that they were sitting tenants. Therefore they got a huge reduction. Could the fact that Alan was Mayor at the time and brother Donald have anything to do with it? Cyril Morris was only the doorman at this time..
Amendment>> Not Cyril Morris it was Cliff Morris

hoboh2o says...
7:43am Sun 16 Dec 12

Cliff Morris a doorman to leader of Bolton council? Sonds more like Phoenix nights and Brian Potter every day!

DouglasMills says...
12:09pm Sun 16 Dec 12

sallyupsteps wrote:
sallyupsteps wrote:
Bendix wrote:
Who owns the site? Does cliff Morris still have an interest?
Last time I knew the Clark family bought iit at a discount due to the fact that they were sitting tenants. Therefore they got a huge reduction. Could the fact that Alan was Mayor at the time and brother Donald have anything to do with it? Cyril Morris was only the doorman at this time..
Amendment>> Not Cyril Morris it was Cliff Morris
He was not mayor at the time you liar. Before the Clarke's took over the Coaching House it was in a completely dilapidated and derelict state - just as it would be if it was left to rot, as the commenters here seem to advocate.

Ernagy2 says...
4:55pm Tue 18 Dec 12

The fire station (marsden road), the odeon cinema. and now Smithills coaching house. A council that has no backbone, and doesn't appreciate heritage. What's new.

I hope the council appreciate the 30 pieces of silver they'll get from the extra Council tax.

Ernagy2 says...
4:56pm Tue 18 Dec 12

The fire station (marsden road), the odeon cinema. and now Smithills coaching house. A council that has no backbone, and doesn't appreciate heritage. What's new.

I hope the council appreciate the 30 pieces of silver they'll get from the extra Council tax.

Rocket_Scientist says...
9:10pm Tue 18 Dec 12

It is sad that Smithills coaching house is no more but another example of our heritage disappearing and being pulled down - change happens but people in power do not

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