12 fined in blitz on ‘rat-run’ motorists

7:53am Saturday 23rd February 2013 in News

A DOZEN people have been fined by police after they infuriated residents by using a quiet residential street as a “rat-run”.

Drivers have been illegally using Chassen Road in Heaton to avoid traffic lights, despite police warning that they would be handing out fines.

Police have run several operations there in the past few weeks and motorists have been warned not to use the road as a shortcut.

But despite the warnings in The Bolton News, via social media and in emails to parents of pupils at Bolton School, drivers continued to use it.

Police have now stepped up the campaign and were handing out £30 fines during one-hour periods on Thursday and yesterday.

Only residents and visitors are allowed to use Chassen Road for access but residents have been complaining that motorists are ignoring the signs and using it as a cut through from Tudor Avenue to Chorley New Road.

The busiest times are between 8am and 9.30am and between 3.30pm and 4.30pm. Dominic Parmenter, aged 41, said: “Cars literally tear along here and taxis are the worst.

“We have written to the schools and the council.

“It is good to see the police here taking action and we hope it will stop people doing it, but although it is a police matter I can’t help thinking they have better things to do.”

Another resident, Peter Gribbin, aged 45, said: “This road has been a nightmare — so bad that my wife and I have thought about moving.

“Residents have been abused by motorists when they tell them not to park in front of drives. We are really grateful to the police for taking action.”

PC Andy McMath said: “I think it is sinking in now we are fining people and we will continue to do so.

“People have been warned about this but it is still happening.”

Comments (39)

9:10am Sat 23 Feb 13

oftbewildered2 says...

just what does it take to make people understand that rules are rules - whether or not they personally agree with them.
just what does it take to make people understand that rules are rules - whether or not they personally agree with them. oftbewildered2

10:05am Sat 23 Feb 13

brian jones says...

I think anyone who gets one of these penalties should first take some advice from pepipoo before just paying it.
I think anyone who gets one of these penalties should first take some advice from pepipoo before just paying it. brian jones

10:14am Sat 23 Feb 13

Worzel78 says...

Sorry, fined for what???? Cars using a road???? Do we still pay road tax???
If the council want to stop motorists using the road they should shut one side of it so people wont use it as a cut through.
Sorry, fined for what???? Cars using a road???? Do we still pay road tax??? If the council want to stop motorists using the road they should shut one side of it so people wont use it as a cut through. Worzel78

10:23am Sat 23 Feb 13

atlas123 says...

Fined for contravening no vehicles except for access signs....

Slam dunk offence, only defence will be they was using the road for access, but if they have been observed driving in and right along without accessing anything then the offence will be complete!
Fined for contravening no vehicles except for access signs.... Slam dunk offence, only defence will be they was using the road for access, but if they have been observed driving in and right along without accessing anything then the offence will be complete! atlas123

11:30am Sat 23 Feb 13

brian jones says...

It's a slam dunk if the TRO has been properly applied. But one should find out if it has before paying up. An FPN should generally be paid - it's not worth taing to court as it can end up costing a lot more than the original penalty, but.... if the TRO is not correctly applied by the council, then the penalty is not valid. I don't know if there is a correct TRO in place for this road.
It's a slam dunk if the TRO has been properly applied. But one should find out if it has before paying up. An FPN should generally be paid - it's not worth taing to court as it can end up costing a lot more than the original penalty, but.... if the TRO is not correctly applied by the council, then the penalty is not valid. I don't know if there is a correct TRO in place for this road. brian jones

12:48pm Sat 23 Feb 13

boltonnut says...

You dirty rats.
You dirty rats. boltonnut

12:55pm Sat 23 Feb 13

questionairre says...

The arrogant Chelsea tractor drivers around those schools on Chorley old road need to realise that other people have lives too.
They park on the cycle lanes, drive at ridiculous speeds and have no thought for pedestrians, cyclist and other road users.
They seem to have a Must get the spoilt brats to school at the very last minute.
What is wrong with the Bus or Shanks pony.
Set out a bit earlier, then you wont need to do a Lewis Hamilton through built up areas.
The arrogant Chelsea tractor drivers around those schools on Chorley old road need to realise that other people have lives too. They park on the cycle lanes, drive at ridiculous speeds and have no thought for pedestrians, cyclist and other road users. They seem to have a Must get the spoilt brats to school at the very last minute. What is wrong with the Bus or Shanks pony. Set out a bit earlier, then you wont need to do a Lewis Hamilton through built up areas. questionairre

12:57pm Sat 23 Feb 13

sunfun says...

There are other issues regarding traffic at Bolton School, coaches parked on double yellow lines and zigzags at crossings, cars parked on the side set blocking the pavements, also cars obstructing the highway and parking on the bend on Tudor Avenue causing an obstruction and despair among the travelling public, and at Park road at drop off pick up time there is a dangerous situation with cars blocking the road whilst trying turn into an already full car park causing traffic to back up onto Chorley New Road causing gridlock and a dangerous situation with children trying to cross park road. I fear the situation will only get worse with Bolton Schools continues expansion plans and the only way anything will get done about it will be when a few kids get killed, (old school ties Bolton council, planning / highways heaven forbid!)
There are other issues regarding traffic at Bolton School, coaches parked on double yellow lines and zigzags at crossings, cars parked on the side set blocking the pavements, also cars obstructing the highway and parking on the bend on Tudor Avenue causing an obstruction and despair among the travelling public, and at Park road at drop off pick up time there is a dangerous situation with cars blocking the road whilst trying turn into an already full car park causing traffic to back up onto Chorley New Road causing gridlock and a dangerous situation with children trying to cross park road. I fear the situation will only get worse with Bolton Schools continues expansion plans and the only way anything will get done about it will be when a few kids get killed, (old school ties Bolton council, planning / highways heaven forbid!) sunfun

1:08pm Sat 23 Feb 13

BWFC71 says...

Worzel78 wrote:
Sorry, fined for what???? Cars using a road???? Do we still pay road tax???
If the council want to stop motorists using the road they should shut one side of it so people wont use it as a cut through.
No we don't pay road tax and haven't done since the 1920's!!! In fact we pay Motor Vehicle Excise Duty which goes towards Central Government, and Motorways and not towards A, B or unclassified roads!!!
[quote][p][bold]Worzel78[/bold] wrote: Sorry, fined for what???? Cars using a road???? Do we still pay road tax??? If the council want to stop motorists using the road they should shut one side of it so people wont use it as a cut through.[/p][/quote]No we don't pay road tax and haven't done since the 1920's!!! In fact we pay Motor Vehicle Excise Duty which goes towards Central Government, and Motorways and not towards A, B or unclassified roads!!! BWFC71

3:28pm Sat 23 Feb 13

Boltontoday says...

Well done to the police for taking action on this misused rat run.
Well done to the police for taking action on this misused rat run. Boltontoday

3:32pm Sat 23 Feb 13

127001 says...

I take it that the Police will now be issuing fines on all residential roads where vehicles are using them as a cut through because they don't live on that particular stretch of road or for 'access'.

Just imagine, crime reduction would be around 95%.
I take it that the Police will now be issuing fines on all residential roads where vehicles are using them as a cut through because they don't live on that particular stretch of road or for 'access'. Just imagine, crime reduction would be around 95%. 127001

3:35pm Sat 23 Feb 13

BWFC71 says...

127001 wrote:
I take it that the Police will now be issuing fines on all residential roads where vehicles are using them as a cut through because they don't live on that particular stretch of road or for 'access'.

Just imagine, crime reduction would be around 95%.
The road is clearly signposted as access only (and if you don't know what the sign looks like then check the Highway Code!).

If a street is as such signposted then good on the police - if not then the fine cannot be upheld!
[quote][p][bold]127001[/bold] wrote: I take it that the Police will now be issuing fines on all residential roads where vehicles are using them as a cut through because they don't live on that particular stretch of road or for 'access'. Just imagine, crime reduction would be around 95%.[/p][/quote]The road is clearly signposted as access only (and if you don't know what the sign looks like then check the Highway Code!). If a street is as such signposted then good on the police - if not then the fine cannot be upheld! BWFC71

3:39pm Sat 23 Feb 13

127001 says...

BWFC71 wrote:
127001 wrote:
I take it that the Police will now be issuing fines on all residential roads where vehicles are using them as a cut through because they don't live on that particular stretch of road or for 'access'.

Just imagine, crime reduction would be around 95%.
The road is clearly signposted as access only (and if you don't know what the sign looks like then check the Highway Code!).

If a street is as such signposted then good on the police - if not then the fine cannot be upheld!
But you could say the same thing for every residential road in the entire country.

How does one apply for 'access' only as if the Police monitor this kind of thing then it would be good to actually have a bobby on the beat again.
[quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]127001[/bold] wrote: I take it that the Police will now be issuing fines on all residential roads where vehicles are using them as a cut through because they don't live on that particular stretch of road or for 'access'. Just imagine, crime reduction would be around 95%.[/p][/quote]The road is clearly signposted as access only (and if you don't know what the sign looks like then check the Highway Code!). If a street is as such signposted then good on the police - if not then the fine cannot be upheld![/p][/quote]But you could say the same thing for every residential road in the entire country. How does one apply for 'access' only as if the Police monitor this kind of thing then it would be good to actually have a bobby on the beat again. 127001

5:01pm Sat 23 Feb 13

BWFC71 says...

127001 wrote:
BWFC71 wrote:
127001 wrote:
I take it that the Police will now be issuing fines on all residential roads where vehicles are using them as a cut through because they don't live on that particular stretch of road or for 'access'.

Just imagine, crime reduction would be around 95%.
The road is clearly signposted as access only (and if you don't know what the sign looks like then check the Highway Code!).

If a street is as such signposted then good on the police - if not then the fine cannot be upheld!
But you could say the same thing for every residential road in the entire country.

How does one apply for 'access' only as if the Police monitor this kind of thing then it would be good to actually have a bobby on the beat again.
I suggest you read your highway Code as clearly you do not know which road sign I mean!

Because there is clearly as sign (red circle with a white centre) which means access only.

If a driver decides to go against that road sign then fair enough they get booked.

I bet you are one of those drivers who do not indicate at lights when in a right turn only lane or a left turn only lane - when you are meant to as the indicator is meant for pedestrians, especially those with guide dogs as they are trained to see indicators, as well as other road traffic!
[quote][p][bold]127001[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]127001[/bold] wrote: I take it that the Police will now be issuing fines on all residential roads where vehicles are using them as a cut through because they don't live on that particular stretch of road or for 'access'. Just imagine, crime reduction would be around 95%.[/p][/quote]The road is clearly signposted as access only (and if you don't know what the sign looks like then check the Highway Code!). If a street is as such signposted then good on the police - if not then the fine cannot be upheld![/p][/quote]But you could say the same thing for every residential road in the entire country. How does one apply for 'access' only as if the Police monitor this kind of thing then it would be good to actually have a bobby on the beat again.[/p][/quote]I suggest you read your highway Code as clearly you do not know which road sign I mean! Because there is clearly as sign (red circle with a white centre) which means access only. If a driver decides to go against that road sign then fair enough they get booked. I bet you are one of those drivers who do not indicate at lights when in a right turn only lane or a left turn only lane - when you are meant to as the indicator is meant for pedestrians, especially those with guide dogs as they are trained to see indicators, as well as other road traffic! BWFC71

5:15pm Sat 23 Feb 13

aardwolf says...

questionairre wrote:
The arrogant Chelsea tractor drivers around those schools on Chorley old road need to realise that other people have lives too.
They park on the cycle lanes, drive at ridiculous speeds and have no thought for pedestrians, cyclist and other road users.
They seem to have a Must get the spoilt brats to school at the very last minute.
What is wrong with the Bus or Shanks pony.
Set out a bit earlier, then you wont need to do a Lewis Hamilton through built up areas.
Oh dear... a comment dripping with envy. For information (and education of the jealous unwashed) it is not an offence to park in the cycle lanes along there as long as there are no other restrictions. There is a speed camera just outside the school and if you can get someone to read the article for you the resident actually claims that taxis are the worst offenders. Still never let stupidity and prejudice get in the way of a good moan at those much, much better than you...
[quote][p][bold]questionairre[/bold] wrote: The arrogant Chelsea tractor drivers around those schools on Chorley old road need to realise that other people have lives too. They park on the cycle lanes, drive at ridiculous speeds and have no thought for pedestrians, cyclist and other road users. They seem to have a Must get the spoilt brats to school at the very last minute. What is wrong with the Bus or Shanks pony. Set out a bit earlier, then you wont need to do a Lewis Hamilton through built up areas.[/p][/quote]Oh dear... a comment dripping with envy. For information (and education of the jealous unwashed) it is not an offence to park in the cycle lanes along there as long as there are no other restrictions. There is a speed camera just outside the school and if you can get someone to read the article for you the resident actually claims that taxis are the worst offenders. Still never let stupidity and prejudice get in the way of a good moan at those much, much better than you... aardwolf

5:18pm Sat 23 Feb 13

aardwolf says...

sunfun wrote:
There are other issues regarding traffic at Bolton School, coaches parked on double yellow lines and zigzags at crossings, cars parked on the side set blocking the pavements, also cars obstructing the highway and parking on the bend on Tudor Avenue causing an obstruction and despair among the travelling public, and at Park road at drop off pick up time there is a dangerous situation with cars blocking the road whilst trying turn into an already full car park causing traffic to back up onto Chorley New Road causing gridlock and a dangerous situation with children trying to cross park road. I fear the situation will only get worse with Bolton Schools continues expansion plans and the only way anything will get done about it will be when a few kids get killed, (old school ties Bolton council, planning / highways heaven forbid!)
Goodness all those offences commited but not a single report of a prosecution. Almost as if you were making them up. And if you think anyone with an education would work for a council then you really are deluded...
[quote][p][bold]sunfun[/bold] wrote: There are other issues regarding traffic at Bolton School, coaches parked on double yellow lines and zigzags at crossings, cars parked on the side set blocking the pavements, also cars obstructing the highway and parking on the bend on Tudor Avenue causing an obstruction and despair among the travelling public, and at Park road at drop off pick up time there is a dangerous situation with cars blocking the road whilst trying turn into an already full car park causing traffic to back up onto Chorley New Road causing gridlock and a dangerous situation with children trying to cross park road. I fear the situation will only get worse with Bolton Schools continues expansion plans and the only way anything will get done about it will be when a few kids get killed, (old school ties Bolton council, planning / highways heaven forbid!)[/p][/quote]Goodness all those offences commited but not a single report of a prosecution. Almost as if you were making them up. And if you think anyone with an education would work for a council then you really are deluded... aardwolf

5:19pm Sat 23 Feb 13

aardwolf says...

What the heck gives these people the privilege of an 'access only' road?
What the heck gives these people the privilege of an 'access only' road? aardwolf

6:05pm Sat 23 Feb 13

127001 says...

BWFC71 wrote:
127001 wrote:
BWFC71 wrote:
127001 wrote:
I take it that the Police will now be issuing fines on all residential roads where vehicles are using them as a cut through because they don't live on that particular stretch of road or for 'access'.

Just imagine, crime reduction would be around 95%.
The road is clearly signposted as access only (and if you don't know what the sign looks like then check the Highway Code!).

If a street is as such signposted then good on the police - if not then the fine cannot be upheld!
But you could say the same thing for every residential road in the entire country.

How does one apply for 'access' only as if the Police monitor this kind of thing then it would be good to actually have a bobby on the beat again.
I suggest you read your highway Code as clearly you do not know which road sign I mean!

Because there is clearly as sign (red circle with a white centre) which means access only.

If a driver decides to go against that road sign then fair enough they get booked.

I bet you are one of those drivers who do not indicate at lights when in a right turn only lane or a left turn only lane - when you are meant to as the indicator is meant for pedestrians, especially those with guide dogs as they are trained to see indicators, as well as other road traffic!
you're funny. But no, I'm not one of 'those' drivers I'm afraid.

I know what a road sign looks like and I have no problem with an access only road for residents.

What I'm trying to get at is that every residential road/estate should be treated in the same way!!! I'm not against it!

I think it's great that the police have actually clamped down on this - and is the main reason I would like to have a 'access' only sign on my own street so that the Police 'police' it so to speak.

We've had burglary's round here and all we get is a crime reference number; but this is on another level!
[quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]127001[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]127001[/bold] wrote: I take it that the Police will now be issuing fines on all residential roads where vehicles are using them as a cut through because they don't live on that particular stretch of road or for 'access'. Just imagine, crime reduction would be around 95%.[/p][/quote]The road is clearly signposted as access only (and if you don't know what the sign looks like then check the Highway Code!). If a street is as such signposted then good on the police - if not then the fine cannot be upheld![/p][/quote]But you could say the same thing for every residential road in the entire country. How does one apply for 'access' only as if the Police monitor this kind of thing then it would be good to actually have a bobby on the beat again.[/p][/quote]I suggest you read your highway Code as clearly you do not know which road sign I mean! Because there is clearly as sign (red circle with a white centre) which means access only. If a driver decides to go against that road sign then fair enough they get booked. I bet you are one of those drivers who do not indicate at lights when in a right turn only lane or a left turn only lane - when you are meant to as the indicator is meant for pedestrians, especially those with guide dogs as they are trained to see indicators, as well as other road traffic![/p][/quote]you're funny. But no, I'm not one of 'those' drivers I'm afraid. I know what a road sign looks like and I have no problem with an access only road for residents. What I'm trying to get at is that every residential road/estate should be treated in the same way!!! I'm not against it! I think it's great that the police have actually clamped down on this - and is the main reason I would like to have a 'access' only sign on my own street so that the Police 'police' it so to speak. We've had burglary's round here and all we get is a crime reference number; but this is on another level! 127001

6:34pm Sat 23 Feb 13

hoboh2o says...

BWFC71 wrote:
127001 wrote:
BWFC71 wrote:
127001 wrote:
I take it that the Police will now be issuing fines on all residential roads where vehicles are using them as a cut through because they don't live on that particular stretch of road or for 'access'.

Just imagine, crime reduction would be around 95%.
The road is clearly signposted as access only (and if you don't know what the sign looks like then check the Highway Code!).

If a street is as such signposted then good on the police - if not then the fine cannot be upheld!
But you could say the same thing for every residential road in the entire country.

How does one apply for 'access' only as if the Police monitor this kind of thing then it would be good to actually have a bobby on the beat again.
I suggest you read your highway Code as clearly you do not know which road sign I mean!

Because there is clearly as sign (red circle with a white centre) which means access only.

If a driver decides to go against that road sign then fair enough they get booked.

I bet you are one of those drivers who do not indicate at lights when in a right turn only lane or a left turn only lane - when you are meant to as the indicator is meant for pedestrians, especially those with guide dogs as they are trained to see indicators, as well as other road traffic!
Who gives a toss about pedestrians? Roads are for cars, pavements for people!
[quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]127001[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]127001[/bold] wrote: I take it that the Police will now be issuing fines on all residential roads where vehicles are using them as a cut through because they don't live on that particular stretch of road or for 'access'. Just imagine, crime reduction would be around 95%.[/p][/quote]The road is clearly signposted as access only (and if you don't know what the sign looks like then check the Highway Code!). If a street is as such signposted then good on the police - if not then the fine cannot be upheld![/p][/quote]But you could say the same thing for every residential road in the entire country. How does one apply for 'access' only as if the Police monitor this kind of thing then it would be good to actually have a bobby on the beat again.[/p][/quote]I suggest you read your highway Code as clearly you do not know which road sign I mean! Because there is clearly as sign (red circle with a white centre) which means access only. If a driver decides to go against that road sign then fair enough they get booked. I bet you are one of those drivers who do not indicate at lights when in a right turn only lane or a left turn only lane - when you are meant to as the indicator is meant for pedestrians, especially those with guide dogs as they are trained to see indicators, as well as other road traffic![/p][/quote]Who gives a toss about pedestrians? Roads are for cars, pavements for people! hoboh2o

8:47pm Sat 23 Feb 13

wsw69 says...

hoboh2o stated "Who gives a toss about pedestrians? Roads are for cars, pavements for people!"

You are quite clearly a thicko. Road users always have to give way to pedestrians. Pedestrians have right of way.

If you hold a driving licence then it explains why buffoons like you are on the road and most likely one of the thicko brigade who would use Chassen Road as a rat run.

I just hope the same happens around your area, you moron!
hoboh2o stated "Who gives a toss about pedestrians? Roads are for cars, pavements for people!" You are quite clearly a thicko. Road users always have to give way to pedestrians. Pedestrians have right of way. If you hold a driving licence then it explains why buffoons like you are on the road and most likely one of the thicko brigade who would use Chassen Road as a rat run. I just hope the same happens around your area, you moron! wsw69

11:38pm Sat 23 Feb 13

slinx80 says...

aardwolf wrote:
What the heck gives these people the privilege of an 'access only' road?
I totally agree, mornington road is another rat-run which is far busier and genuinely has more hazards. Also the richy riches park their huge cars with no consideration whatsoever for anyone else. The council need to get their act together & force the school to build parking for the safety of all.
[quote][p][bold]aardwolf[/bold] wrote: What the heck gives these people the privilege of an 'access only' road?[/p][/quote]I totally agree, mornington road is another rat-run which is far busier and genuinely has more hazards. Also the richy riches park their huge cars with no consideration whatsoever for anyone else. The council need to get their act together & force the school to build parking for the safety of all. slinx80

11:43pm Sat 23 Feb 13

davoovad says...

aardwolf wrote:
questionairre wrote:
The arrogant Chelsea tractor drivers around those schools on Chorley old road need to realise that other people have lives too.
They park on the cycle lanes, drive at ridiculous speeds and have no thought for pedestrians, cyclist and other road users.
They seem to have a Must get the spoilt brats to school at the very last minute.
What is wrong with the Bus or Shanks pony.
Set out a bit earlier, then you wont need to do a Lewis Hamilton through built up areas.
Oh dear... a comment dripping with envy. For information (and education of the jealous unwashed) it is not an offence to park in the cycle lanes along there as long as there are no other restrictions. There is a speed camera just outside the school and if you can get someone to read the article for you the resident actually claims that taxis are the worst offenders. Still never let stupidity and prejudice get in the way of a good moan at those much, much better than you...
Jeez , one was born with a silver spoon up ones **** wasn't one, and as you are much much better than the rest of us i hope you crash and burn you uppity toss bag !
[quote][p][bold]aardwolf[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]questionairre[/bold] wrote: The arrogant Chelsea tractor drivers around those schools on Chorley old road need to realise that other people have lives too. They park on the cycle lanes, drive at ridiculous speeds and have no thought for pedestrians, cyclist and other road users. They seem to have a Must get the spoilt brats to school at the very last minute. What is wrong with the Bus or Shanks pony. Set out a bit earlier, then you wont need to do a Lewis Hamilton through built up areas.[/p][/quote]Oh dear... a comment dripping with envy. For information (and education of the jealous unwashed) it is not an offence to park in the cycle lanes along there as long as there are no other restrictions. There is a speed camera just outside the school and if you can get someone to read the article for you the resident actually claims that taxis are the worst offenders. Still never let stupidity and prejudice get in the way of a good moan at those much, much better than you...[/p][/quote]Jeez , one was born with a silver spoon up ones **** wasn't one, and as you are much much better than the rest of us i hope you crash and burn you uppity toss bag ! davoovad

10:07am Sun 24 Feb 13

BWFC71 says...

hoboh2o wrote:
BWFC71 wrote:
127001 wrote:
BWFC71 wrote:
127001 wrote:
I take it that the Police will now be issuing fines on all residential roads where vehicles are using them as a cut through because they don't live on that particular stretch of road or for 'access'.

Just imagine, crime reduction would be around 95%.
The road is clearly signposted as access only (and if you don't know what the sign looks like then check the Highway Code!).

If a street is as such signposted then good on the police - if not then the fine cannot be upheld!
But you could say the same thing for every residential road in the entire country.

How does one apply for 'access' only as if the Police monitor this kind of thing then it would be good to actually have a bobby on the beat again.
I suggest you read your highway Code as clearly you do not know which road sign I mean!

Because there is clearly as sign (red circle with a white centre) which means access only.

If a driver decides to go against that road sign then fair enough they get booked.

I bet you are one of those drivers who do not indicate at lights when in a right turn only lane or a left turn only lane - when you are meant to as the indicator is meant for pedestrians, especially those with guide dogs as they are trained to see indicators, as well as other road traffic!
Who gives a toss about pedestrians? Roads are for cars, pavements for people!
So you have never tried to cross the road, at a junction, with not knowing which direction a car was travelling in due to the fact that the driver is too ignorant to use their indicator?

As others have said pedestrians have right of way on the roads!
[quote][p][bold]hoboh2o[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]127001[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]127001[/bold] wrote: I take it that the Police will now be issuing fines on all residential roads where vehicles are using them as a cut through because they don't live on that particular stretch of road or for 'access'. Just imagine, crime reduction would be around 95%.[/p][/quote]The road is clearly signposted as access only (and if you don't know what the sign looks like then check the Highway Code!). If a street is as such signposted then good on the police - if not then the fine cannot be upheld![/p][/quote]But you could say the same thing for every residential road in the entire country. How does one apply for 'access' only as if the Police monitor this kind of thing then it would be good to actually have a bobby on the beat again.[/p][/quote]I suggest you read your highway Code as clearly you do not know which road sign I mean! Because there is clearly as sign (red circle with a white centre) which means access only. If a driver decides to go against that road sign then fair enough they get booked. I bet you are one of those drivers who do not indicate at lights when in a right turn only lane or a left turn only lane - when you are meant to as the indicator is meant for pedestrians, especially those with guide dogs as they are trained to see indicators, as well as other road traffic![/p][/quote]Who gives a toss about pedestrians? Roads are for cars, pavements for people![/p][/quote]So you have never tried to cross the road, at a junction, with not knowing which direction a car was travelling in due to the fact that the driver is too ignorant to use their indicator? As others have said pedestrians have right of way on the roads! BWFC71

10:08am Sun 24 Feb 13

BWFC71 says...

127001 wrote:
BWFC71 wrote:
127001 wrote:
BWFC71 wrote:
127001 wrote:
I take it that the Police will now be issuing fines on all residential roads where vehicles are using them as a cut through because they don't live on that particular stretch of road or for 'access'.

Just imagine, crime reduction would be around 95%.
The road is clearly signposted as access only (and if you don't know what the sign looks like then check the Highway Code!).

If a street is as such signposted then good on the police - if not then the fine cannot be upheld!
But you could say the same thing for every residential road in the entire country.

How does one apply for 'access' only as if the Police monitor this kind of thing then it would be good to actually have a bobby on the beat again.
I suggest you read your highway Code as clearly you do not know which road sign I mean!

Because there is clearly as sign (red circle with a white centre) which means access only.

If a driver decides to go against that road sign then fair enough they get booked.

I bet you are one of those drivers who do not indicate at lights when in a right turn only lane or a left turn only lane - when you are meant to as the indicator is meant for pedestrians, especially those with guide dogs as they are trained to see indicators, as well as other road traffic!
you're funny. But no, I'm not one of 'those' drivers I'm afraid.

I know what a road sign looks like and I have no problem with an access only road for residents.

What I'm trying to get at is that every residential road/estate should be treated in the same way!!! I'm not against it!

I think it's great that the police have actually clamped down on this - and is the main reason I would like to have a 'access' only sign on my own street so that the Police 'police' it so to speak.

We've had burglary's round here and all we get is a crime reference number; but this is on another level!
Then get together with teh other esidents and then get your local councillor involved - and then apply to the council to get it done!!!
[quote][p][bold]127001[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]127001[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]127001[/bold] wrote: I take it that the Police will now be issuing fines on all residential roads where vehicles are using them as a cut through because they don't live on that particular stretch of road or for 'access'. Just imagine, crime reduction would be around 95%.[/p][/quote]The road is clearly signposted as access only (and if you don't know what the sign looks like then check the Highway Code!). If a street is as such signposted then good on the police - if not then the fine cannot be upheld![/p][/quote]But you could say the same thing for every residential road in the entire country. How does one apply for 'access' only as if the Police monitor this kind of thing then it would be good to actually have a bobby on the beat again.[/p][/quote]I suggest you read your highway Code as clearly you do not know which road sign I mean! Because there is clearly as sign (red circle with a white centre) which means access only. If a driver decides to go against that road sign then fair enough they get booked. I bet you are one of those drivers who do not indicate at lights when in a right turn only lane or a left turn only lane - when you are meant to as the indicator is meant for pedestrians, especially those with guide dogs as they are trained to see indicators, as well as other road traffic![/p][/quote]you're funny. But no, I'm not one of 'those' drivers I'm afraid. I know what a road sign looks like and I have no problem with an access only road for residents. What I'm trying to get at is that every residential road/estate should be treated in the same way!!! I'm not against it! I think it's great that the police have actually clamped down on this - and is the main reason I would like to have a 'access' only sign on my own street so that the Police 'police' it so to speak. We've had burglary's round here and all we get is a crime reference number; but this is on another level![/p][/quote]Then get together with teh other esidents and then get your local councillor involved - and then apply to the council to get it done!!! BWFC71

10:10am Sun 24 Feb 13

BWFC71 says...

aardwolf wrote:
What the heck gives these people the privilege of an 'access only' road?
Because the residents have got together and involved their local councillor to look at teh problems and to resolve them.

Easy as that and any "rat-run" stareet can do the same!

It is not a privilege but a citizen's right!
[quote][p][bold]aardwolf[/bold] wrote: What the heck gives these people the privilege of an 'access only' road?[/p][/quote]Because the residents have got together and involved their local councillor to look at teh problems and to resolve them. Easy as that and any "rat-run" stareet can do the same! It is not a privilege but a citizen's right! BWFC71

10:09pm Sun 24 Feb 13

hoboh2o says...

wsw69 wrote:
hoboh2o stated "Who gives a toss about pedestrians? Roads are for cars, pavements for people!"

You are quite clearly a thicko. Road users always have to give way to pedestrians. Pedestrians have right of way.

If you hold a driving licence then it explains why buffoons like you are on the road and most likely one of the thicko brigade who would use Chassen Road as a rat run.

I just hope the same happens around your area, you moron!
Gotcha! ;-)
[quote][p][bold]wsw69[/bold] wrote: hoboh2o stated "Who gives a toss about pedestrians? Roads are for cars, pavements for people!" You are quite clearly a thicko. Road users always have to give way to pedestrians. Pedestrians have right of way. If you hold a driving licence then it explains why buffoons like you are on the road and most likely one of the thicko brigade who would use Chassen Road as a rat run. I just hope the same happens around your area, you moron![/p][/quote]Gotcha! ;-) hoboh2o

11:30pm Sun 24 Feb 13

tinypet says...

hoboh2o wrote:
BWFC71 wrote:
127001 wrote:
BWFC71 wrote:
127001 wrote:
I take it that the Police will now be issuing fines on all residential roads where vehicles are using them as a cut through because they don't live on that particular stretch of road or for 'access'.

Just imagine, crime reduction would be around 95%.
The road is clearly signposted as access only (and if you don't know what the sign looks like then check the Highway Code!).

If a street is as such signposted then good on the police - if not then the fine cannot be upheld!
But you could say the same thing for every residential road in the entire country.

How does one apply for 'access' only as if the Police monitor this kind of thing then it would be good to actually have a bobby on the beat again.
I suggest you read your highway Code as clearly you do not know which road sign I mean!

Because there is clearly as sign (red circle with a white centre) which means access only.

If a driver decides to go against that road sign then fair enough they get booked.

I bet you are one of those drivers who do not indicate at lights when in a right turn only lane or a left turn only lane - when you are meant to as the indicator is meant for pedestrians, especially those with guide dogs as they are trained to see indicators, as well as other road traffic!
Who gives a toss about pedestrians? Roads are for cars, pavements for people!
BWFC71. omg!!!! rule one in driving hazards! This is the problem with the roads these days, too many arrogent d i c k h e a d s. bit like football hooligans to. if the cap fits!
[quote][p][bold]hoboh2o[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]127001[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]127001[/bold] wrote: I take it that the Police will now be issuing fines on all residential roads where vehicles are using them as a cut through because they don't live on that particular stretch of road or for 'access'. Just imagine, crime reduction would be around 95%.[/p][/quote]The road is clearly signposted as access only (and if you don't know what the sign looks like then check the Highway Code!). If a street is as such signposted then good on the police - if not then the fine cannot be upheld![/p][/quote]But you could say the same thing for every residential road in the entire country. How does one apply for 'access' only as if the Police monitor this kind of thing then it would be good to actually have a bobby on the beat again.[/p][/quote]I suggest you read your highway Code as clearly you do not know which road sign I mean! Because there is clearly as sign (red circle with a white centre) which means access only. If a driver decides to go against that road sign then fair enough they get booked. I bet you are one of those drivers who do not indicate at lights when in a right turn only lane or a left turn only lane - when you are meant to as the indicator is meant for pedestrians, especially those with guide dogs as they are trained to see indicators, as well as other road traffic![/p][/quote]Who gives a toss about pedestrians? Roads are for cars, pavements for people![/p][/quote]BWFC71. omg!!!! rule one in driving hazards! This is the problem with the roads these days, too many arrogent d i c k h e a d s. bit like football hooligans to. if the cap fits! tinypet

11:41pm Sun 24 Feb 13

BWFC71 says...

Tinypet, are you sure you were aiming your post at me and not hoboh20?
Tinypet, are you sure you were aiming your post at me and not hoboh20? BWFC71

8:55am Mon 25 Feb 13

magic dragon says...

aardwolf wrote:
questionairre wrote:
The arrogant Chelsea tractor drivers around those schools on Chorley old road need to realise that other people have lives too.
They park on the cycle lanes, drive at ridiculous speeds and have no thought for pedestrians, cyclist and other road users.
They seem to have a Must get the spoilt brats to school at the very last minute.
What is wrong with the Bus or Shanks pony.
Set out a bit earlier, then you wont need to do a Lewis Hamilton through built up areas.
Oh dear... a comment dripping with envy. For information (and education of the jealous unwashed) it is not an offence to park in the cycle lanes along there as long as there are no other restrictions. There is a speed camera just outside the school and if you can get someone to read the article for you the resident actually claims that taxis are the worst offenders. Still never let stupidity and prejudice get in the way of a good moan at those much, much better than you...
From the Highway code:

240
You MUST NOT stop or park on
the carriageway or the hard shoulder of a motorway except in an emergency (see Rule 270)
a pedestrian crossing, including the area marked by the zig-zag lines (see Rule 191)
a clearway (see 'Traffic signs')
taxi bays as indicated by upright signs and markings
an urban clearway within its hours of operation, even when a broken white line is on your side of the road, except to pick up or set down passengers (see 'Traffic signs')
a road marked with double white lines, except to pick up or set down passengers
a tram or cycle lane during its period of operation
a cycle track
red lines, in the case of specially designated ‘red routes’, unless otherwise indicated by signs

...

243
DO NOT stop or park
near a school entrance
anywhere you would prevent access for Emergency Services
at or near a bus or tram stop or taxi rank
on the approach to a level crossing/tramway crossing
opposite or within 10 metres (32 feet) of a junction, except in an authorised parking space
near the brow of a hill or hump bridge
opposite a traffic island or (if this would cause an obstruction) another parked vehicle
where you would force other traffic to enter a tram lane
where the kerb has been lowered to help wheelchair users and powered mobility vehicles
in front of an entrance to a property
on a bend
where you would obstruct cyclists’ use of cycle facilities
except when forced to do so by stationary traffic.
[quote][p][bold]aardwolf[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]questionairre[/bold] wrote: The arrogant Chelsea tractor drivers around those schools on Chorley old road need to realise that other people have lives too. They park on the cycle lanes, drive at ridiculous speeds and have no thought for pedestrians, cyclist and other road users. They seem to have a Must get the spoilt brats to school at the very last minute. What is wrong with the Bus or Shanks pony. Set out a bit earlier, then you wont need to do a Lewis Hamilton through built up areas.[/p][/quote]Oh dear... a comment dripping with envy. For information (and education of the jealous unwashed) it is not an offence to park in the cycle lanes along there as long as there are no other restrictions. There is a speed camera just outside the school and if you can get someone to read the article for you the resident actually claims that taxis are the worst offenders. Still never let stupidity and prejudice get in the way of a good moan at those much, much better than you...[/p][/quote]From the Highway code: 240 You MUST NOT stop or park on the carriageway or the hard shoulder of a motorway except in an emergency (see Rule 270) a pedestrian crossing, including the area marked by the zig-zag lines (see Rule 191) a clearway (see 'Traffic signs') taxi bays as indicated by upright signs and markings an urban clearway within its hours of operation, even when a broken white line is on your side of the road, except to pick up or set down passengers (see 'Traffic signs') a road marked with double white lines, except to pick up or set down passengers a tram or cycle lane during its period of operation a cycle track red lines, in the case of specially designated ‘red routes’, unless otherwise indicated by signs ... 243 DO NOT stop or park near a school entrance anywhere you would prevent access for Emergency Services at or near a bus or tram stop or taxi rank on the approach to a level crossing/tramway crossing opposite or within 10 metres (32 feet) of a junction, except in an authorised parking space near the brow of a hill or hump bridge opposite a traffic island or (if this would cause an obstruction) another parked vehicle where you would force other traffic to enter a tram lane where the kerb has been lowered to help wheelchair users and powered mobility vehicles in front of an entrance to a property on a bend where you would obstruct cyclists’ use of cycle facilities except when forced to do so by stationary traffic. magic dragon

10:35am Mon 25 Feb 13

tinypet says...

BWFC71 wrote:
Tinypet, are you sure you were aiming your post at me and not hoboh20?
yeah, sorry! it was ment for hoboh20, it showed up as your post on the iphone.
[quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: Tinypet, are you sure you were aiming your post at me and not hoboh20?[/p][/quote]yeah, sorry! it was ment for hoboh20, it showed up as your post on the iphone. tinypet

10:40am Mon 25 Feb 13

BWFC71 says...

tinypet wrote:
BWFC71 wrote:
Tinypet, are you sure you were aiming your post at me and not hoboh20?
yeah, sorry! it was ment for hoboh20, it showed up as your post on the iphone.
No worries - phew!!!
[quote][p][bold]tinypet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: Tinypet, are you sure you were aiming your post at me and not hoboh20?[/p][/quote]yeah, sorry! it was ment for hoboh20, it showed up as your post on the iphone.[/p][/quote]No worries - phew!!! BWFC71

1:37pm Mon 25 Feb 13

OMG-GetALife says...

WOW!

It's a road, can it seriously not be used to

a) Be used by local people, who know about it, to avoid the congestion in a morning, so we can all get to work.

b) Let's be honest, if the road is used by other motorists then it's probably help clear some of the traffic congestion anyway which makes sense.

c) The people on this road who work will be setting off much earlier and never notice the through traffic, so the only people who are affected are the jobless/retired who have all the time in the world to moan and whinge because they simply have nothing better to do.

d) I may be wrong, but the road is probably maintained by road tax, paid by everybody, and therefore should be able to be utilised as such. * If I'm wrong about this then I apologise to the residents who have to pay their own money to maintain it and totally agree that the road should be just theirs to use.

e) Yet another fantastic opportunity for police to waste tax payers money catching motorists rather than actual dangerous offenders, more than likely because it is easier for them and they actually get cash rather than use it on wasters. The governments favorite get rich quick scheme.

f) Yet again Bolton is full of pot holes, bad roads and plenty of other estates like mine where there are no double yellows and people park in the most dangerous/awkward places yet what do we do.....

We put up with it! Even when we see double yellows thrown around by the council just to force us to park in paid areas!

The school and traffic have existed long before most of the residents. You chose to live there knowing what the issues would be so if you don't like where you live then move!

And no, I don't use the road and I am not one of those disgruntled people who were fined.
WOW! It's a road, can it seriously not be used to a) Be used by local people, who know about it, to avoid the congestion in a morning, so we can all get to work. b) Let's be honest, if the road is used by other motorists then it's probably help clear some of the traffic congestion anyway which makes sense. c) The people on this road who work will be setting off much earlier and never notice the through traffic, so the only people who are affected are the jobless/retired who have all the time in the world to moan and whinge because they simply have nothing better to do. d) I may be wrong, but the road is probably maintained by road tax, paid by everybody, and therefore should be able to be utilised as such. * If I'm wrong about this then I apologise to the residents who have to pay their own money to maintain it and totally agree that the road should be just theirs to use. e) Yet another fantastic opportunity for police to waste tax payers money catching motorists rather than actual dangerous offenders, more than likely because it is easier for them and they actually get cash rather than use it on wasters. The governments favorite get rich quick scheme. f) Yet again Bolton is full of pot holes, bad roads and plenty of other estates like mine where there are no double yellows and people park in the most dangerous/awkward places yet what do we do..... We put up with it! Even when we see double yellows thrown around by the council just to force us to park in paid areas! The school and traffic have existed long before most of the residents. You chose to live there knowing what the issues would be so if you don't like where you live then move! And no, I don't use the road and I am not one of those disgruntled people who were fined. OMG-GetALife

4:12pm Mon 25 Feb 13

Kelly Welly says...

oftbewildered2 wrote:
just what does it take to make people understand that rules are rules - whether or not they personally agree with them.
Exactly! Rules are rules! Do as your told and never question things that you disagree with. Good god talk about drones!
[quote][p][bold]oftbewildered2[/bold] wrote: just what does it take to make people understand that rules are rules - whether or not they personally agree with them.[/p][/quote]Exactly! Rules are rules! Do as your told and never question things that you disagree with. Good god talk about drones! Kelly Welly

7:11pm Mon 25 Feb 13

BWFC71 says...

OMG-GetALife wrote:
WOW!

It's a road, can it seriously not be used to

a) Be used by local people, who know about it, to avoid the congestion in a morning, so we can all get to work.

b) Let's be honest, if the road is used by other motorists then it's probably help clear some of the traffic congestion anyway which makes sense.

c) The people on this road who work will be setting off much earlier and never notice the through traffic, so the only people who are affected are the jobless/retired who have all the time in the world to moan and whinge because they simply have nothing better to do.

d) I may be wrong, but the road is probably maintained by road tax, paid by everybody, and therefore should be able to be utilised as such. * If I'm wrong about this then I apologise to the residents who have to pay their own money to maintain it and totally agree that the road should be just theirs to use.

e) Yet another fantastic opportunity for police to waste tax payers money catching motorists rather than actual dangerous offenders, more than likely because it is easier for them and they actually get cash rather than use it on wasters. The governments favorite get rich quick scheme.

f) Yet again Bolton is full of pot holes, bad roads and plenty of other estates like mine where there are no double yellows and people park in the most dangerous/awkward places yet what do we do.....

We put up with it! Even when we see double yellows thrown around by the council just to force us to park in paid areas!

The school and traffic have existed long before most of the residents. You chose to live there knowing what the issues would be so if you don't like where you live then move!

And no, I don't use the road and I am not one of those disgruntled people who were fined.
with regards to point d)

There is no such thing as Road Tax. that was done away with in 1920 and replaced with teh Motor Vehicle Excise Duty which goes to maintian Motorways and teh rest goes to Central Government - none of the Excise duty goes towrads the building or upkeep of A, B, unclassified or local roads.

The buildings and upkeepof A, B, Unclassified and local roads comes from Council Tax and as a tax payer the residents of teh street have the right to request that street is for residents or local access only - just as much as the residents of any other street.

If this is a detereent then I hope it works as people have to realise that tax payers do have the right to want a quiet and SAFE street without teh fear of jam-dodgers speeding through local streets with the potential to knock-down children or OAP's!!!
[quote][p][bold]OMG-GetALife[/bold] wrote: WOW! It's a road, can it seriously not be used to a) Be used by local people, who know about it, to avoid the congestion in a morning, so we can all get to work. b) Let's be honest, if the road is used by other motorists then it's probably help clear some of the traffic congestion anyway which makes sense. c) The people on this road who work will be setting off much earlier and never notice the through traffic, so the only people who are affected are the jobless/retired who have all the time in the world to moan and whinge because they simply have nothing better to do. d) I may be wrong, but the road is probably maintained by road tax, paid by everybody, and therefore should be able to be utilised as such. * If I'm wrong about this then I apologise to the residents who have to pay their own money to maintain it and totally agree that the road should be just theirs to use. e) Yet another fantastic opportunity for police to waste tax payers money catching motorists rather than actual dangerous offenders, more than likely because it is easier for them and they actually get cash rather than use it on wasters. The governments favorite get rich quick scheme. f) Yet again Bolton is full of pot holes, bad roads and plenty of other estates like mine where there are no double yellows and people park in the most dangerous/awkward places yet what do we do..... We put up with it! Even when we see double yellows thrown around by the council just to force us to park in paid areas! The school and traffic have existed long before most of the residents. You chose to live there knowing what the issues would be so if you don't like where you live then move! And no, I don't use the road and I am not one of those disgruntled people who were fined.[/p][/quote]with regards to point d) There is no such thing as Road Tax. that was done away with in 1920 and replaced with teh Motor Vehicle Excise Duty which goes to maintian Motorways and teh rest goes to Central Government - none of the Excise duty goes towrads the building or upkeep of A, B, unclassified or local roads. The buildings and upkeepof A, B, Unclassified and local roads comes from Council Tax and as a tax payer the residents of teh street have the right to request that street is for residents or local access only - just as much as the residents of any other street. If this is a detereent then I hope it works as people have to realise that tax payers do have the right to want a quiet and SAFE street without teh fear of jam-dodgers speeding through local streets with the potential to knock-down children or OAP's!!! BWFC71

9:48am Tue 26 Feb 13

OMG-GetALife says...

BWFC71 wrote:
OMG-GetALife wrote:
WOW!

It's a road, can it seriously not be used to

a) Be used by local people, who know about it, to avoid the congestion in a morning, so we can all get to work.

b) Let's be honest, if the road is used by other motorists then it's probably help clear some of the traffic congestion anyway which makes sense.

c) The people on this road who work will be setting off much earlier and never notice the through traffic, so the only people who are affected are the jobless/retired who have all the time in the world to moan and whinge because they simply have nothing better to do.

d) I may be wrong, but the road is probably maintained by road tax, paid by everybody, and therefore should be able to be utilised as such. * If I'm wrong about this then I apologise to the residents who have to pay their own money to maintain it and totally agree that the road should be just theirs to use.

e) Yet another fantastic opportunity for police to waste tax payers money catching motorists rather than actual dangerous offenders, more than likely because it is easier for them and they actually get cash rather than use it on wasters. The governments favorite get rich quick scheme.

f) Yet again Bolton is full of pot holes, bad roads and plenty of other estates like mine where there are no double yellows and people park in the most dangerous/awkward places yet what do we do.....

We put up with it! Even when we see double yellows thrown around by the council just to force us to park in paid areas!

The school and traffic have existed long before most of the residents. You chose to live there knowing what the issues would be so if you don't like where you live then move!

And no, I don't use the road and I am not one of those disgruntled people who were fined.
with regards to point d)

There is no such thing as Road Tax. that was done away with in 1920 and replaced with teh Motor Vehicle Excise Duty which goes to maintian Motorways and teh rest goes to Central Government - none of the Excise duty goes towrads the building or upkeep of A, B, unclassified or local roads.

The buildings and upkeepof A, B, Unclassified and local roads comes from Council Tax and as a tax payer the residents of teh street have the right to request that street is for residents or local access only - just as much as the residents of any other street.

If this is a detereent then I hope it works as people have to realise that tax payers do have the right to want a quiet and SAFE street without teh fear of jam-dodgers speeding through local streets with the potential to knock-down children or OAP's!!!
Okay, sorry I don't have the British Road Rules and Tax Payers Hand Book in front of me.

However, it is quite flattering that you have only picked apart point d) which indicates to me you probably agree with the best rule in the world, common sense.

At what point did we start getting over protective about a road.

Instead of getting out the highway code unlike you, as I'm almost certain that you don't know all of the rules within it without having to sit behind your monitor arguing over rule 12:4 A of page 34, through roads!

Here is a simple to understand definition of a road, brought to you by the Oxford Dictionary:

Definition of road
noun
A wide way leading from one place to another, especially one with a specially prepared surface which vehicles can use:

We don't need the highway code, we need common sense and common courtesy that is all! Driving with due care and attention should be considered by those using any road, not just this one, and I agree they should slow down however,

this article outlines 12 people fined £30 for using the through road, not for speeding and not for careless driving so, we need to ask ourselves are the residents not exaggerating to the police to get their own way. I can imagine they do but, I'm just going off what the story says!
[quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OMG-GetALife[/bold] wrote: WOW! It's a road, can it seriously not be used to a) Be used by local people, who know about it, to avoid the congestion in a morning, so we can all get to work. b) Let's be honest, if the road is used by other motorists then it's probably help clear some of the traffic congestion anyway which makes sense. c) The people on this road who work will be setting off much earlier and never notice the through traffic, so the only people who are affected are the jobless/retired who have all the time in the world to moan and whinge because they simply have nothing better to do. d) I may be wrong, but the road is probably maintained by road tax, paid by everybody, and therefore should be able to be utilised as such. * If I'm wrong about this then I apologise to the residents who have to pay their own money to maintain it and totally agree that the road should be just theirs to use. e) Yet another fantastic opportunity for police to waste tax payers money catching motorists rather than actual dangerous offenders, more than likely because it is easier for them and they actually get cash rather than use it on wasters. The governments favorite get rich quick scheme. f) Yet again Bolton is full of pot holes, bad roads and plenty of other estates like mine where there are no double yellows and people park in the most dangerous/awkward places yet what do we do..... We put up with it! Even when we see double yellows thrown around by the council just to force us to park in paid areas! The school and traffic have existed long before most of the residents. You chose to live there knowing what the issues would be so if you don't like where you live then move! And no, I don't use the road and I am not one of those disgruntled people who were fined.[/p][/quote]with regards to point d) There is no such thing as Road Tax. that was done away with in 1920 and replaced with teh Motor Vehicle Excise Duty which goes to maintian Motorways and teh rest goes to Central Government - none of the Excise duty goes towrads the building or upkeep of A, B, unclassified or local roads. The buildings and upkeepof A, B, Unclassified and local roads comes from Council Tax and as a tax payer the residents of teh street have the right to request that street is for residents or local access only - just as much as the residents of any other street. If this is a detereent then I hope it works as people have to realise that tax payers do have the right to want a quiet and SAFE street without teh fear of jam-dodgers speeding through local streets with the potential to knock-down children or OAP's!!![/p][/quote]Okay, sorry I don't have the British Road Rules and Tax Payers Hand Book in front of me. However, it is quite flattering that you have only picked apart point d) which indicates to me you probably agree with the best rule in the world, common sense. At what point did we start getting over protective about a road. Instead of getting out the highway code unlike you, as I'm almost certain that you don't know all of the rules within it without having to sit behind your monitor arguing over rule 12:4 A of page 34, through roads! Here is a simple to understand definition of a road, brought to you by the Oxford Dictionary: Definition of road noun A wide way leading from one place to another, especially one with a specially prepared surface which vehicles can use: We don't need the highway code, we need common sense and common courtesy that is all! Driving with due care and attention should be considered by those using any road, not just this one, and I agree they should slow down however, this article outlines 12 people fined £30 for using the through road, not for speeding and not for careless driving so, we need to ask ourselves are the residents not exaggerating to the police to get their own way. I can imagine they do but, I'm just going off what the story says! OMG-GetALife

7:49pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Mulla89 says...

OMG-GetALife wrote:
BWFC71 wrote:
OMG-GetALife wrote:
WOW!

It's a road, can it seriously not be used to

a) Be used by local people, who know about it, to avoid the congestion in a morning, so we can all get to work.

b) Let's be honest, if the road is used by other motorists then it's probably help clear some of the traffic congestion anyway which makes sense.

c) The people on this road who work will be setting off much earlier and never notice the through traffic, so the only people who are affected are the jobless/retired who have all the time in the world to moan and whinge because they simply have nothing better to do.

d) I may be wrong, but the road is probably maintained by road tax, paid by everybody, and therefore should be able to be utilised as such. * If I'm wrong about this then I apologise to the residents who have to pay their own money to maintain it and totally agree that the road should be just theirs to use.

e) Yet another fantastic opportunity for police to waste tax payers money catching motorists rather than actual dangerous offenders, more than likely because it is easier for them and they actually get cash rather than use it on wasters. The governments favorite get rich quick scheme.

f) Yet again Bolton is full of pot holes, bad roads and plenty of other estates like mine where there are no double yellows and people park in the most dangerous/awkward places yet what do we do.....

We put up with it! Even when we see double yellows thrown around by the council just to force us to park in paid areas!

The school and traffic have existed long before most of the residents. You chose to live there knowing what the issues would be so if you don't like where you live then move!

And no, I don't use the road and I am not one of those disgruntled people who were fined.
with regards to point d)

There is no such thing as Road Tax. that was done away with in 1920 and replaced with teh Motor Vehicle Excise Duty which goes to maintian Motorways and teh rest goes to Central Government - none of the Excise duty goes towrads the building or upkeep of A, B, unclassified or local roads.

The buildings and upkeepof A, B, Unclassified and local roads comes from Council Tax and as a tax payer the residents of teh street have the right to request that street is for residents or local access only - just as much as the residents of any other street.

If this is a detereent then I hope it works as people have to realise that tax payers do have the right to want a quiet and SAFE street without teh fear of jam-dodgers speeding through local streets with the potential to knock-down children or OAP's!!!
Okay, sorry I don't have the British Road Rules and Tax Payers Hand Book in front of me.

However, it is quite flattering that you have only picked apart point d) which indicates to me you probably agree with the best rule in the world, common sense.

At what point did we start getting over protective about a road.

Instead of getting out the highway code unlike you, as I'm almost certain that you don't know all of the rules within it without having to sit behind your monitor arguing over rule 12:4 A of page 34, through roads!

Here is a simple to understand definition of a road, brought to you by the Oxford Dictionary:

Definition of road
noun
A wide way leading from one place to another, especially one with a specially prepared surface which vehicles can use:

We don't need the highway code, we need common sense and common courtesy that is all! Driving with due care and attention should be considered by those using any road, not just this one, and I agree they should slow down however,

this article outlines 12 people fined £30 for using the through road, not for speeding and not for careless driving so, we need to ask ourselves are the residents not exaggerating to the police to get their own way. I can imagine they do but, I'm just going off what the story says!
I've read all the above comments I agree with OMG, roads get busy in the morning deal with it, it takes me an hour in the morning to get to work on the motorway (20 minutes when on nights) especially at junction 20, but I suppose I can stamp my feet and demand people stop using it.

Even if road tax doesn't pay for your road I'm sure some of my council tax does so I will use what ever bloody road I want.
[quote][p][bold]OMG-GetALife[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OMG-GetALife[/bold] wrote: WOW! It's a road, can it seriously not be used to a) Be used by local people, who know about it, to avoid the congestion in a morning, so we can all get to work. b) Let's be honest, if the road is used by other motorists then it's probably help clear some of the traffic congestion anyway which makes sense. c) The people on this road who work will be setting off much earlier and never notice the through traffic, so the only people who are affected are the jobless/retired who have all the time in the world to moan and whinge because they simply have nothing better to do. d) I may be wrong, but the road is probably maintained by road tax, paid by everybody, and therefore should be able to be utilised as such. * If I'm wrong about this then I apologise to the residents who have to pay their own money to maintain it and totally agree that the road should be just theirs to use. e) Yet another fantastic opportunity for police to waste tax payers money catching motorists rather than actual dangerous offenders, more than likely because it is easier for them and they actually get cash rather than use it on wasters. The governments favorite get rich quick scheme. f) Yet again Bolton is full of pot holes, bad roads and plenty of other estates like mine where there are no double yellows and people park in the most dangerous/awkward places yet what do we do..... We put up with it! Even when we see double yellows thrown around by the council just to force us to park in paid areas! The school and traffic have existed long before most of the residents. You chose to live there knowing what the issues would be so if you don't like where you live then move! And no, I don't use the road and I am not one of those disgruntled people who were fined.[/p][/quote]with regards to point d) There is no such thing as Road Tax. that was done away with in 1920 and replaced with teh Motor Vehicle Excise Duty which goes to maintian Motorways and teh rest goes to Central Government - none of the Excise duty goes towrads the building or upkeep of A, B, unclassified or local roads. The buildings and upkeepof A, B, Unclassified and local roads comes from Council Tax and as a tax payer the residents of teh street have the right to request that street is for residents or local access only - just as much as the residents of any other street. If this is a detereent then I hope it works as people have to realise that tax payers do have the right to want a quiet and SAFE street without teh fear of jam-dodgers speeding through local streets with the potential to knock-down children or OAP's!!![/p][/quote]Okay, sorry I don't have the British Road Rules and Tax Payers Hand Book in front of me. However, it is quite flattering that you have only picked apart point d) which indicates to me you probably agree with the best rule in the world, common sense. At what point did we start getting over protective about a road. Instead of getting out the highway code unlike you, as I'm almost certain that you don't know all of the rules within it without having to sit behind your monitor arguing over rule 12:4 A of page 34, through roads! Here is a simple to understand definition of a road, brought to you by the Oxford Dictionary: Definition of road noun A wide way leading from one place to another, especially one with a specially prepared surface which vehicles can use: We don't need the highway code, we need common sense and common courtesy that is all! Driving with due care and attention should be considered by those using any road, not just this one, and I agree they should slow down however, this article outlines 12 people fined £30 for using the through road, not for speeding and not for careless driving so, we need to ask ourselves are the residents not exaggerating to the police to get their own way. I can imagine they do but, I'm just going off what the story says![/p][/quote]I've read all the above comments I agree with OMG, roads get busy in the morning deal with it, it takes me an hour in the morning to get to work on the motorway (20 minutes when on nights) especially at junction 20, but I suppose I can stamp my feet and demand people stop using it. Even if road tax doesn't pay for your road I'm sure some of my council tax does so I will use what ever bloody road I want. Mulla89

4:50pm Thu 28 Feb 13

BWFC71 says...

Mulla89 wrote:
OMG-GetALife wrote:
BWFC71 wrote:
OMG-GetALife wrote:
WOW!

It's a road, can it seriously not be used to

a) Be used by local people, who know about it, to avoid the congestion in a morning, so we can all get to work.

b) Let's be honest, if the road is used by other motorists then it's probably help clear some of the traffic congestion anyway which makes sense.

c) The people on this road who work will be setting off much earlier and never notice the through traffic, so the only people who are affected are the jobless/retired who have all the time in the world to moan and whinge because they simply have nothing better to do.

d) I may be wrong, but the road is probably maintained by road tax, paid by everybody, and therefore should be able to be utilised as such. * If I'm wrong about this then I apologise to the residents who have to pay their own money to maintain it and totally agree that the road should be just theirs to use.

e) Yet another fantastic opportunity for police to waste tax payers money catching motorists rather than actual dangerous offenders, more than likely because it is easier for them and they actually get cash rather than use it on wasters. The governments favorite get rich quick scheme.

f) Yet again Bolton is full of pot holes, bad roads and plenty of other estates like mine where there are no double yellows and people park in the most dangerous/awkward places yet what do we do.....

We put up with it! Even when we see double yellows thrown around by the council just to force us to park in paid areas!

The school and traffic have existed long before most of the residents. You chose to live there knowing what the issues would be so if you don't like where you live then move!

And no, I don't use the road and I am not one of those disgruntled people who were fined.
with regards to point d)

There is no such thing as Road Tax. that was done away with in 1920 and replaced with teh Motor Vehicle Excise Duty which goes to maintian Motorways and teh rest goes to Central Government - none of the Excise duty goes towrads the building or upkeep of A, B, unclassified or local roads.

The buildings and upkeepof A, B, Unclassified and local roads comes from Council Tax and as a tax payer the residents of teh street have the right to request that street is for residents or local access only - just as much as the residents of any other street.

If this is a detereent then I hope it works as people have to realise that tax payers do have the right to want a quiet and SAFE street without teh fear of jam-dodgers speeding through local streets with the potential to knock-down children or OAP's!!!
Okay, sorry I don't have the British Road Rules and Tax Payers Hand Book in front of me.

However, it is quite flattering that you have only picked apart point d) which indicates to me you probably agree with the best rule in the world, common sense.

At what point did we start getting over protective about a road.

Instead of getting out the highway code unlike you, as I'm almost certain that you don't know all of the rules within it without having to sit behind your monitor arguing over rule 12:4 A of page 34, through roads!

Here is a simple to understand definition of a road, brought to you by the Oxford Dictionary:

Definition of road
noun
A wide way leading from one place to another, especially one with a specially prepared surface which vehicles can use:

We don't need the highway code, we need common sense and common courtesy that is all! Driving with due care and attention should be considered by those using any road, not just this one, and I agree they should slow down however,

this article outlines 12 people fined £30 for using the through road, not for speeding and not for careless driving so, we need to ask ourselves are the residents not exaggerating to the police to get their own way. I can imagine they do but, I'm just going off what the story says!
I've read all the above comments I agree with OMG, roads get busy in the morning deal with it, it takes me an hour in the morning to get to work on the motorway (20 minutes when on nights) especially at junction 20, but I suppose I can stamp my feet and demand people stop using it.

Even if road tax doesn't pay for your road I'm sure some of my council tax does so I will use what ever bloody road I want.
Council tax, which does go towards the upkeep, building and repairs of ALL roads (except Motorways) with the borough, also gives the local residents power to decide who they want driving up and down their street and in the case of this street they don't want rat-runners and want a quiet-life and so applied to teh council, to whom they pay the Council Tax to, and got in place access only. Again, they have also paid their tax and got what THEY wanted - can't grumble with that!
[quote][p][bold]Mulla89[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OMG-GetALife[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OMG-GetALife[/bold] wrote: WOW! It's a road, can it seriously not be used to a) Be used by local people, who know about it, to avoid the congestion in a morning, so we can all get to work. b) Let's be honest, if the road is used by other motorists then it's probably help clear some of the traffic congestion anyway which makes sense. c) The people on this road who work will be setting off much earlier and never notice the through traffic, so the only people who are affected are the jobless/retired who have all the time in the world to moan and whinge because they simply have nothing better to do. d) I may be wrong, but the road is probably maintained by road tax, paid by everybody, and therefore should be able to be utilised as such. * If I'm wrong about this then I apologise to the residents who have to pay their own money to maintain it and totally agree that the road should be just theirs to use. e) Yet another fantastic opportunity for police to waste tax payers money catching motorists rather than actual dangerous offenders, more than likely because it is easier for them and they actually get cash rather than use it on wasters. The governments favorite get rich quick scheme. f) Yet again Bolton is full of pot holes, bad roads and plenty of other estates like mine where there are no double yellows and people park in the most dangerous/awkward places yet what do we do..... We put up with it! Even when we see double yellows thrown around by the council just to force us to park in paid areas! The school and traffic have existed long before most of the residents. You chose to live there knowing what the issues would be so if you don't like where you live then move! And no, I don't use the road and I am not one of those disgruntled people who were fined.[/p][/quote]with regards to point d) There is no such thing as Road Tax. that was done away with in 1920 and replaced with teh Motor Vehicle Excise Duty which goes to maintian Motorways and teh rest goes to Central Government - none of the Excise duty goes towrads the building or upkeep of A, B, unclassified or local roads. The buildings and upkeepof A, B, Unclassified and local roads comes from Council Tax and as a tax payer the residents of teh street have the right to request that street is for residents or local access only - just as much as the residents of any other street. If this is a detereent then I hope it works as people have to realise that tax payers do have the right to want a quiet and SAFE street without teh fear of jam-dodgers speeding through local streets with the potential to knock-down children or OAP's!!![/p][/quote]Okay, sorry I don't have the British Road Rules and Tax Payers Hand Book in front of me. However, it is quite flattering that you have only picked apart point d) which indicates to me you probably agree with the best rule in the world, common sense. At what point did we start getting over protective about a road. Instead of getting out the highway code unlike you, as I'm almost certain that you don't know all of the rules within it without having to sit behind your monitor arguing over rule 12:4 A of page 34, through roads! Here is a simple to understand definition of a road, brought to you by the Oxford Dictionary: Definition of road noun A wide way leading from one place to another, especially one with a specially prepared surface which vehicles can use: We don't need the highway code, we need common sense and common courtesy that is all! Driving with due care and attention should be considered by those using any road, not just this one, and I agree they should slow down however, this article outlines 12 people fined £30 for using the through road, not for speeding and not for careless driving so, we need to ask ourselves are the residents not exaggerating to the police to get their own way. I can imagine they do but, I'm just going off what the story says![/p][/quote]I've read all the above comments I agree with OMG, roads get busy in the morning deal with it, it takes me an hour in the morning to get to work on the motorway (20 minutes when on nights) especially at junction 20, but I suppose I can stamp my feet and demand people stop using it. Even if road tax doesn't pay for your road I'm sure some of my council tax does so I will use what ever bloody road I want.[/p][/quote]Council tax, which does go towards the upkeep, building and repairs of ALL roads (except Motorways) with the borough, also gives the local residents power to decide who they want driving up and down their street and in the case of this street they don't want rat-runners and want a quiet-life and so applied to teh council, to whom they pay the Council Tax to, and got in place access only. Again, they have also paid their tax and got what THEY wanted - can't grumble with that! BWFC71

9:58am Fri 1 Mar 13

OMG-GetALife says...

BWFC71 wrote:
Mulla89 wrote:
OMG-GetALife wrote:
BWFC71 wrote:
OMG-GetALife wrote:
WOW!

It's a road, can it seriously not be used to

a) Be used by local people, who know about it, to avoid the congestion in a morning, so we can all get to work.

b) Let's be honest, if the road is used by other motorists then it's probably help clear some of the traffic congestion anyway which makes sense.

c) The people on this road who work will be setting off much earlier and never notice the through traffic, so the only people who are affected are the jobless/retired who have all the time in the world to moan and whinge because they simply have nothing better to do.

d) I may be wrong, but the road is probably maintained by road tax, paid by everybody, and therefore should be able to be utilised as such. * If I'm wrong about this then I apologise to the residents who have to pay their own money to maintain it and totally agree that the road should be just theirs to use.

e) Yet another fantastic opportunity for police to waste tax payers money catching motorists rather than actual dangerous offenders, more than likely because it is easier for them and they actually get cash rather than use it on wasters. The governments favorite get rich quick scheme.

f) Yet again Bolton is full of pot holes, bad roads and plenty of other estates like mine where there are no double yellows and people park in the most dangerous/awkward places yet what do we do.....

We put up with it! Even when we see double yellows thrown around by the council just to force us to park in paid areas!

The school and traffic have existed long before most of the residents. You chose to live there knowing what the issues would be so if you don't like where you live then move!

And no, I don't use the road and I am not one of those disgruntled people who were fined.
with regards to point d)

There is no such thing as Road Tax. that was done away with in 1920 and replaced with teh Motor Vehicle Excise Duty which goes to maintian Motorways and teh rest goes to Central Government - none of the Excise duty goes towrads the building or upkeep of A, B, unclassified or local roads.

The buildings and upkeepof A, B, Unclassified and local roads comes from Council Tax and as a tax payer the residents of teh street have the right to request that street is for residents or local access only - just as much as the residents of any other street.

If this is a detereent then I hope it works as people have to realise that tax payers do have the right to want a quiet and SAFE street without teh fear of jam-dodgers speeding through local streets with the potential to knock-down children or OAP's!!!
Okay, sorry I don't have the British Road Rules and Tax Payers Hand Book in front of me.

However, it is quite flattering that you have only picked apart point d) which indicates to me you probably agree with the best rule in the world, common sense.

At what point did we start getting over protective about a road.

Instead of getting out the highway code unlike you, as I'm almost certain that you don't know all of the rules within it without having to sit behind your monitor arguing over rule 12:4 A of page 34, through roads!

Here is a simple to understand definition of a road, brought to you by the Oxford Dictionary:

Definition of road
noun
A wide way leading from one place to another, especially one with a specially prepared surface which vehicles can use:

We don't need the highway code, we need common sense and common courtesy that is all! Driving with due care and attention should be considered by those using any road, not just this one, and I agree they should slow down however,

this article outlines 12 people fined £30 for using the through road, not for speeding and not for careless driving so, we need to ask ourselves are the residents not exaggerating to the police to get their own way. I can imagine they do but, I'm just going off what the story says!
I've read all the above comments I agree with OMG, roads get busy in the morning deal with it, it takes me an hour in the morning to get to work on the motorway (20 minutes when on nights) especially at junction 20, but I suppose I can stamp my feet and demand people stop using it.

Even if road tax doesn't pay for your road I'm sure some of my council tax does so I will use what ever bloody road I want.
Council tax, which does go towards the upkeep, building and repairs of ALL roads (except Motorways) with the borough, also gives the local residents power to decide who they want driving up and down their street and in the case of this street they don't want rat-runners and want a quiet-life and so applied to teh council, to whom they pay the Council Tax to, and got in place access only. Again, they have also paid their tax and got what THEY wanted - can't grumble with that!
We can "grumble with that" because it's stupidity.

The residents are selfish hypocrites who will have undoubtedly used some other poor resident's street as a cut through in their life, knowingly or not.

So you're saying our council tax has paid for the road to be built, we've also all contributed to the upkeep to make sure it is clean and road worthy, and to top it all off, when it has had pot holes, like every other road in Bolton, our council tax has paid to get it back to a good condition. But, we're fined if we drive on it and that is fair?

The residents of this street have technically made the road private, so I and others can't use it, but they want me to contribute to its upkeep. What was wrong with making it a private road which they pay to maintain themselves?

The residents want a council road with private road benefits, yet the people who want to use the road are the ones off to work, earning money which inevitably pays for the upkeep of that same road.

What are they petitioning for next, all of us to pay for their mortgages?

Don't get me wrong, we all want a quiet street, with no cars, access only and nobody parking in front of our drives, but if we're all going to start petitioning for access only roads there will be no roads left to use.

I think these residents have got their own "selfish" way, but should note a valuable lesson, that you should always do your research when buying a property. It's another fine example of "fools rushing in" then wanting to change things once they've dropped a clanger. Local people have used this road for years, stop waltzing in and making life difficult for hard working people!
[quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mulla89[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OMG-GetALife[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OMG-GetALife[/bold] wrote: WOW! It's a road, can it seriously not be used to a) Be used by local people, who know about it, to avoid the congestion in a morning, so we can all get to work. b) Let's be honest, if the road is used by other motorists then it's probably help clear some of the traffic congestion anyway which makes sense. c) The people on this road who work will be setting off much earlier and never notice the through traffic, so the only people who are affected are the jobless/retired who have all the time in the world to moan and whinge because they simply have nothing better to do. d) I may be wrong, but the road is probably maintained by road tax, paid by everybody, and therefore should be able to be utilised as such. * If I'm wrong about this then I apologise to the residents who have to pay their own money to maintain it and totally agree that the road should be just theirs to use. e) Yet another fantastic opportunity for police to waste tax payers money catching motorists rather than actual dangerous offenders, more than likely because it is easier for them and they actually get cash rather than use it on wasters. The governments favorite get rich quick scheme. f) Yet again Bolton is full of pot holes, bad roads and plenty of other estates like mine where there are no double yellows and people park in the most dangerous/awkward places yet what do we do..... We put up with it! Even when we see double yellows thrown around by the council just to force us to park in paid areas! The school and traffic have existed long before most of the residents. You chose to live there knowing what the issues would be so if you don't like where you live then move! And no, I don't use the road and I am not one of those disgruntled people who were fined.[/p][/quote]with regards to point d) There is no such thing as Road Tax. that was done away with in 1920 and replaced with teh Motor Vehicle Excise Duty which goes to maintian Motorways and teh rest goes to Central Government - none of the Excise duty goes towrads the building or upkeep of A, B, unclassified or local roads. The buildings and upkeepof A, B, Unclassified and local roads comes from Council Tax and as a tax payer the residents of teh street have the right to request that street is for residents or local access only - just as much as the residents of any other street. If this is a detereent then I hope it works as people have to realise that tax payers do have the right to want a quiet and SAFE street without teh fear of jam-dodgers speeding through local streets with the potential to knock-down children or OAP's!!![/p][/quote]Okay, sorry I don't have the British Road Rules and Tax Payers Hand Book in front of me. However, it is quite flattering that you have only picked apart point d) which indicates to me you probably agree with the best rule in the world, common sense. At what point did we start getting over protective about a road. Instead of getting out the highway code unlike you, as I'm almost certain that you don't know all of the rules within it without having to sit behind your monitor arguing over rule 12:4 A of page 34, through roads! Here is a simple to understand definition of a road, brought to you by the Oxford Dictionary: Definition of road noun A wide way leading from one place to another, especially one with a specially prepared surface which vehicles can use: We don't need the highway code, we need common sense and common courtesy that is all! Driving with due care and attention should be considered by those using any road, not just this one, and I agree they should slow down however, this article outlines 12 people fined £30 for using the through road, not for speeding and not for careless driving so, we need to ask ourselves are the residents not exaggerating to the police to get their own way. I can imagine they do but, I'm just going off what the story says![/p][/quote]I've read all the above comments I agree with OMG, roads get busy in the morning deal with it, it takes me an hour in the morning to get to work on the motorway (20 minutes when on nights) especially at junction 20, but I suppose I can stamp my feet and demand people stop using it. Even if road tax doesn't pay for your road I'm sure some of my council tax does so I will use what ever bloody road I want.[/p][/quote]Council tax, which does go towards the upkeep, building and repairs of ALL roads (except Motorways) with the borough, also gives the local residents power to decide who they want driving up and down their street and in the case of this street they don't want rat-runners and want a quiet-life and so applied to teh council, to whom they pay the Council Tax to, and got in place access only. Again, they have also paid their tax and got what THEY wanted - can't grumble with that![/p][/quote]We can "grumble with that" because it's stupidity. The residents are selfish hypocrites who will have undoubtedly used some other poor resident's street as a cut through in their life, knowingly or not. So you're saying our council tax has paid for the road to be built, we've also all contributed to the upkeep to make sure it is clean and road worthy, and to top it all off, when it has had pot holes, like every other road in Bolton, our council tax has paid to get it back to a good condition. But, we're fined if we drive on it and that is fair? The residents of this street have technically made the road private, so I and others can't use it, but they want me to contribute to its upkeep. What was wrong with making it a private road which they pay to maintain themselves? The residents want a council road with private road benefits, yet the people who want to use the road are the ones off to work, earning money which inevitably pays for the upkeep of that same road. What are they petitioning for next, all of us to pay for their mortgages? Don't get me wrong, we all want a quiet street, with no cars, access only and nobody parking in front of our drives, but if we're all going to start petitioning for access only roads there will be no roads left to use. I think these residents have got their own "selfish" way, but should note a valuable lesson, that you should always do your research when buying a property. It's another fine example of "fools rushing in" then wanting to change things once they've dropped a clanger. Local people have used this road for years, stop waltzing in and making life difficult for hard working people! OMG-GetALife

5:53pm Fri 1 Mar 13

judyben says...

I am delighted for the residents of Chassen Road. This sign has been in place for a long time so it is clearly being ignored and those drivers causing the problems deserve to be dealt with. Next targets should be those who double park on the bend on Tudor Avenue at school opening and closing times and who clog up all the side streets round there if parked illegally. I love traffic wardens ! Get an army of them out round there every day!!
I am delighted for the residents of Chassen Road. This sign has been in place for a long time so it is clearly being ignored and those drivers causing the problems deserve to be dealt with. Next targets should be those who double park on the bend on Tudor Avenue at school opening and closing times and who clog up all the side streets round there if parked illegally. I love traffic wardens ! Get an army of them out round there every day!! judyben

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