Tory candidate to fight for Bolton West

8:58am Thursday 21st March 2013 in News

BOLTON West Conservatives have chosen their candidate to take on Julie Hilling at the next election.

Christopher Green will go head-to-head with Ms Hilling for the marginal Bolton West seat in 2015 after he fought off competition from two other candidates — including a serving Bolton councillor.

A trained engineer, Mr Green has worked in the pharmaceutical and manufacturing industries, taught English in Rwanda and was a member of the Territorial Army for several years before entering politics.

In 2010 he stood unsuccessfully as a candidate for Manchester Withington, where he was beaten into third place by Labour’s Lucy Powell and John Leech, who retained the seat for the Liberal Democrats.

In the recent Bolton West vote, Mr Green beat Bradshaw councillor Mudasir Dean and Jackie Whiteley — who had fought the Bradford West by-election against George Galloway last year. Bolton Conservative deputy leader and Hulton councillor Andy Morgan had been due to stand but pulled out of the running citing family and business commitments. In 2010, Bolton West was won by Labour’s Ms Hilling by 92 votes following six recounts.

If elected, Mr Green said his main aims would be to raise standards in schools, ensure a fair deal for pensioners, tackle crime in Bolton West and rebalance the economy to benefit the north of England, with increased focus on technology and manufacturing.

He said: “I can assure Bolton West residents that I will work tirelessly between now and 2015 to win their trust and give them a real and credible alternative to the Labour Party.”

Ms Hilling said: “I look forward in the coming months to debating the issues in the constituency with Mr Green, particularly the vindictive and cruel effects that his party’s policies have had on residents.”

Comments (40)

9:07am Thu 21 Mar 13

underwater says...

Good luck to Mr Green, Wish him well.
Good luck to Mr Green, Wish him well. underwater

9:51am Thu 21 Mar 13

boltonchap says...

Good luck to him. Here's a tip to help differentiate from Julie Hilling - answer emails from your constituents: our person of the people/representativ
e Julie never does.
Good luck to him. Here's a tip to help differentiate from Julie Hilling - answer emails from your constituents: our person of the people/representativ e Julie never does. boltonchap

10:11am Thu 21 Mar 13

Wolfie190 says...

Labour, Conservative all the same nowadays.
Labour, Conservative all the same nowadays. Wolfie190

10:49am Thu 21 Mar 13

thealexweb says...

He won't win when UKIP will steal a few more percentage points of his vote and Labour will take up some of the Lib Dem vote. No point helping him out by tatical voting though. UKIP only from now one.
He won't win when UKIP will steal a few more percentage points of his vote and Labour will take up some of the Lib Dem vote. No point helping him out by tatical voting though. UKIP only from now one. thealexweb

11:13am Thu 21 Mar 13

Bob Shaftoe says...

Q.Labour - Conservative - Libdems, what's the difference?

A. No difference whatsoever.

They are all liberals to the core led by 'chattering class' wimps. A waste of time voting for any of them.

The country needs radical changes. UKIP for me (and many more).
Q.Labour - Conservative - Libdems, what's the difference? A. No difference whatsoever. They are all liberals to the core led by 'chattering class' wimps. A waste of time voting for any of them. The country needs radical changes. UKIP for me (and many more). Bob Shaftoe

12:15pm Thu 21 Mar 13

Wolfie190 says...

Oh if UKIP standing they'll get my vote. When our three main parties are financed and take orders from the same bosses there is only one thing you can be certain. All the world is entitled to live in the UK on benefits and cant be deported when they're less than grateful and make victims out of us.
Oh if UKIP standing they'll get my vote. When our three main parties are financed and take orders from the same bosses there is only one thing you can be certain. All the world is entitled to live in the UK on benefits and cant be deported when they're less than grateful and make victims out of us. Wolfie190

4:15pm Thu 21 Mar 13

han789 says...

This is great news for Bolton West residents.
Chris is hard-working and will be a fantastic candidate and representative for the area!
This is great news for Bolton West residents. Chris is hard-working and will be a fantastic candidate and representative for the area! han789

6:18pm Thu 21 Mar 13

sunfun says...

They have picked someone who is not a career politician, an engineer who works in industry, with real life experience; well the Conservatives have gone up in my estimation, Good luck to the guy.
They have picked someone who is not a career politician, an engineer who works in industry, with real life experience; well the Conservatives have gone up in my estimation, Good luck to the guy. sunfun

7:20pm Thu 21 Mar 13

bwfc58 says...

UKIP UKIP and more UKIP . from now on in the Local and National Elections they are going to win more and more Seats . because the so called 3 main party's . are a waist of time Fact
UKIP UKIP and more UKIP . from now on in the Local and National Elections they are going to win more and more Seats . because the so called 3 main party's . are a waist of time Fact bwfc58

7:20pm Thu 21 Mar 13

bwfc58 says...

UKIP UKIP and more UKIP . from now on in the Local and National Elections they are going to win more and more Seats . because the so called 3 main party's . are a waist of time Fact
UKIP UKIP and more UKIP . from now on in the Local and National Elections they are going to win more and more Seats . because the so called 3 main party's . are a waist of time Fact bwfc58

7:27pm Thu 21 Mar 13

BWFC71 says...

What has UKIP to offer, substrantially, that none of the other do?

Remember a vote for UKIP means you are making UKIP people unemployed within the European Parliament - UKIP has NO Westminster Members and they have LIED at the last by-election of which they admit are not sorry about!!!
What has UKIP to offer, substrantially, that none of the other do? Remember a vote for UKIP means you are making UKIP people unemployed within the European Parliament - UKIP has NO Westminster Members and they have LIED at the last by-election of which they admit are not sorry about!!! BWFC71

7:45pm Thu 21 Mar 13

Bob Shaftoe says...

Lying Politicians! Don't make me laugh. I'm still waiting for a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty as promised by Cameron.
Now, there you have one big liar!
Lying Politicians! Don't make me laugh. I'm still waiting for a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty as promised by Cameron. Now, there you have one big liar! Bob Shaftoe

7:59pm Thu 21 Mar 13

DavidSmeth says...

A pity Morgan withdraw, he would have had a better chance. Is mr green from Bolton.
A pity Morgan withdraw, he would have had a better chance. Is mr green from Bolton. DavidSmeth

9:27pm Thu 21 Mar 13

Kaewyed says...

Quote:--If elected, Mr Green said his main aims would be to raise standards in schools, ensure a fair deal for pensioners, tackle crime in Bolton West and rebalance the economy to benefit the north of England, with increased focus on technology and manufacturing.

Rebalance the Economy, his Clueless Colleague Osbourne has had nearly 3yrs, to do that. now we are in a Triple Dip Recession.

Also will he stop Cameron from Withdrawing Funding from all these Hospitals and closing A&E's, I think not.
Quote:--If elected, Mr Green said his main aims would be to raise standards in schools, ensure a fair deal for pensioners, tackle crime in Bolton West and rebalance the economy to benefit the north of England, with increased focus on technology and manufacturing. Rebalance the Economy, his Clueless Colleague Osbourne has had nearly 3yrs, to do that. now we are in a Triple Dip Recession. Also will he stop Cameron from Withdrawing Funding from all these Hospitals and closing A&E's, I think not. Kaewyed

9:53pm Thu 21 Mar 13

bwfc58 says...

Cameron lied Osbourne as lied and Labour well i will not even go there . so yes UKIP UKIP and more UKIP will all ways from now on get my and many other Peoples votes they should at least get one chance to sort this Country out . and for being in Europe that does not benifit this country one bit .we give Billions of pounds every year to it and what do we get back more migration which is not needed once is was but not anymore and once again FACT .
Cameron lied Osbourne as lied and Labour well i will not even go there . so yes UKIP UKIP and more UKIP will all ways from now on get my and many other Peoples votes they should at least get one chance to sort this Country out . and for being in Europe that does not benifit this country one bit .we give Billions of pounds every year to it and what do we get back more migration which is not needed once is was but not anymore and once again FACT . bwfc58

11:00pm Thu 21 Mar 13

duffbikes says...

boltonchap wrote:
Good luck to him. Here's a tip to help differentiate from Julie Hilling - answer emails from your constituents: our person of the people/representativ

e Julie never does.
Ditto! I too await a reply.
[quote][p][bold]boltonchap[/bold] wrote: Good luck to him. Here's a tip to help differentiate from Julie Hilling - answer emails from your constituents: our person of the people/representativ e Julie never does.[/p][/quote]Ditto! I too await a reply. duffbikes

3:59pm Fri 22 Mar 13

watchmaker says...

Good Luck, Mr Green.

You have my support.

Labour; have been representing Bolton far too long and gets less and less for its loyalty.

UKIP may be saying populist things about the EU and emigration, but look a little closer and you will find they are not a party of government, as they have no policies on domestic affairs, and only a few steps away from been a party of racists. Just look at were some of their candidates history to see a bigger picture.

http://www.guardian.
co.uk/politics/2013/
mar/07/ukip-extreme-
elements-nigel-farag
e

Lib Dems: well enough said
Good Luck, Mr Green. You have my support. Labour; have been representing Bolton far too long and gets less and less for its loyalty. UKIP may be saying populist things about the EU and emigration, but look a little closer and you will find they are not a party of government, as they have no policies on domestic affairs, and only a few steps away from been a party of racists. Just look at were some of their candidates history to see a bigger picture. http://www.guardian. co.uk/politics/2013/ mar/07/ukip-extreme- elements-nigel-farag e Lib Dems: well enough said watchmaker

1:41pm Sun 24 Mar 13

Rev-ol-ution says...

Tory scum, we dont want you near us, go away
Tory scum, we dont want you near us, go away Rev-ol-ution

1:48pm Sun 24 Mar 13

Rev-ol-ution says...

Ukip? Why the hell would you vote them? learn something! the party has no stability! at all!
Ukip? Why the hell would you vote them? learn something! the party has no stability! at all! Rev-ol-ution

1:54pm Sun 24 Mar 13

Rev-ol-ution says...

and all you tory supporters, you need to go stick your head in a cupboard and get someone to kick it shut a few times. Shame that the old folk in here love tories just so they can keep getting their £10 vouchers at xmas plus all the other stuff you get, when people who have amputated limbs are declared fit to work when they arent even fit to walk?!?? people are starving around you in your own society, Wake Up!!!
and all you tory supporters, you need to go stick your head in a cupboard and get someone to kick it shut a few times. Shame that the old folk in here love tories just so they can keep getting their £10 vouchers at xmas plus all the other stuff you get, when people who have amputated limbs are declared fit to work when they arent even fit to walk?!?? people are starving around you in your own society, Wake Up!!! Rev-ol-ution

11:24am Mon 25 Mar 13

Mark A Stott says...

DON'T LET YOUR VOTE CHANGE IT'S SPOTS -- Here's, not just to Bolton Tory coalition candidates losing their deposits, but to Lib Dem ones too and everywhere in the UK that either or both will stand at the next general election. -- SAY NO! TO COALITION(S).
DON'T LET YOUR VOTE CHANGE IT'S SPOTS -- Here's, not just to Bolton Tory coalition candidates losing their deposits, but to Lib Dem ones too and everywhere in the UK that either or both will stand at the next general election. -- SAY NO! TO COALITION(S). Mark A Stott

12:05pm Mon 25 Mar 13

boltonnut says...

What I like about Mr. Green is that I can pronouce his name!!!!!!!!!
What I like about Mr. Green is that I can pronouce his name!!!!!!!!! boltonnut

10:53pm Mon 25 Mar 13

davoovad says...

BWFC71 wrote:
What has UKIP to offer, substrantially, that none of the other do?

Remember a vote for UKIP means you are making UKIP people unemployed within the European Parliament - UKIP has NO Westminster Members and they have LIED at the last by-election of which they admit are not sorry about!!!
So what, we need a change, now sod off !!
[quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: What has UKIP to offer, substrantially, that none of the other do? Remember a vote for UKIP means you are making UKIP people unemployed within the European Parliament - UKIP has NO Westminster Members and they have LIED at the last by-election of which they admit are not sorry about!!![/p][/quote]So what, we need a change, now sod off !! davoovad

10:55pm Mon 25 Mar 13

davoovad says...

watchmaker wrote:
Good Luck, Mr Green.

You have my support.

Labour; have been representing Bolton far too long and gets less and less for its loyalty.

UKIP may be saying populist things about the EU and emigration, but look a little closer and you will find they are not a party of government, as they have no policies on domestic affairs, and only a few steps away from been a party of racists. Just look at were some of their candidates history to see a bigger picture.

http://www.guardian.

co.uk/politics/2013/

mar/07/ukip-extreme-

elements-nigel-farag

e

Lib Dems: well enough said
Dont vote for ukip then ! ... Next....?
[quote][p][bold]watchmaker[/bold] wrote: Good Luck, Mr Green. You have my support. Labour; have been representing Bolton far too long and gets less and less for its loyalty. UKIP may be saying populist things about the EU and emigration, but look a little closer and you will find they are not a party of government, as they have no policies on domestic affairs, and only a few steps away from been a party of racists. Just look at were some of their candidates history to see a bigger picture. http://www.guardian. co.uk/politics/2013/ mar/07/ukip-extreme- elements-nigel-farag e Lib Dems: well enough said[/p][/quote]Dont vote for ukip then ! ... Next....? davoovad

10:58pm Mon 25 Mar 13

BoltonLancs says...

Farage will organize and stabilize UKIP when he knows it's really taking off...
So sick of the racist accusations towards UKIP, they ain't saying populist things but very, very popular things.
Company bosses, college lecturers, middle class students, council workers in certain departments (with secure jobs/pensions/future
s and few financial worries) are the ones who typically slander UKIP as being racist, nazi's , whatever...
But it's 70% of the UK - with below average earnings/high living costs, no private/public pension scheme, no private health insurance who are seeing UKIP as their only voice.
As an ex-Labour man and Union member I can honestly say UKIP is left and right in the correct measure. British workers first in Britain. British patients first on the NHS.
The tide has changed, the English ain't gonna be so 'nice' anymore.
Farage will organize and stabilize UKIP when he knows it's really taking off... So sick of the racist accusations towards UKIP, they ain't saying populist things but very, very popular things. Company bosses, college lecturers, middle class students, council workers in certain departments (with secure jobs/pensions/future s and few financial worries) are the ones who typically slander UKIP as being racist, nazi's , whatever... But it's 70% of the UK - with below average earnings/high living costs, no private/public pension scheme, no private health insurance who are seeing UKIP as their only voice. As an ex-Labour man and Union member I can honestly say UKIP is left and right in the correct measure. British workers first in Britain. British patients first on the NHS. The tide has changed, the English ain't gonna be so 'nice' anymore. BoltonLancs

10:58pm Mon 25 Mar 13

davoovad says...

Rev-ol-ution wrote:
and all you tory supporters, you need to go stick your head in a cupboard and get someone to kick it shut a few times. Shame that the old folk in here love tories just so they can keep getting their £10 vouchers at xmas plus all the other stuff you get, when people who have amputated limbs are declared fit to work when they arent even fit to walk?!?? people are starving around you in your own society, Wake Up!!!
Blah Blah Blah, who are you trying to convince !!!
[quote][p][bold]Rev-ol-ution[/bold] wrote: and all you tory supporters, you need to go stick your head in a cupboard and get someone to kick it shut a few times. Shame that the old folk in here love tories just so they can keep getting their £10 vouchers at xmas plus all the other stuff you get, when people who have amputated limbs are declared fit to work when they arent even fit to walk?!?? people are starving around you in your own society, Wake Up!!![/p][/quote]Blah Blah Blah, who are you trying to convince !!! davoovad

6:45am Tue 26 Mar 13

jellbellkell says...

Well I'm voting UKIP and alot more ppl are waking up it seems :D

I will be my 1st time voting
Well I'm voting UKIP and alot more ppl are waking up it seems :D I will be my 1st time voting jellbellkell

6:46am Tue 26 Mar 13

jellbellkell says...

It*
It* jellbellkell

7:22am Tue 26 Mar 13

Wigan Trotter says...

What he says he will do and what he actually will do are two different things, especially when the other MP's show him how to claim excessive expenses in addition to a cushy number salary.
What he says he will do and what he actually will do are two different things, especially when the other MP's show him how to claim excessive expenses in addition to a cushy number salary. Wigan Trotter

10:06pm Tue 26 Mar 13

BWFC71 says...

UKIP immigration is flawed completely. The figures they use are not offocial and are in fact taken from a Bulgarian and Romanian questionnaire which asked one simple question - given the chance would you work and live in ANY other foreign country?
The response is what one assumes!
The same question was asked to many people in the UK and the response was 70% would move and work abroad - so does that mean 70% of UK citizens are going to move to Australia or US or any other country - no it doesn't, just as much as the majority of Bulgarians and Romanians won't be moving anywhere - FACT!
Also FACT is that the extreme parties are using exact same false statistics in The Netherlands, France, Germany and even Poland - so that would mean 3 times the overall total of both Bulgaria and Romania will be moving country, which is a physical impossibility!!!!

So now look closer at UKIP's other policies and lets see how much it will affect the common person - taxed higher, less benefits, splitting up the NHS, no hardened approach to banking or bankers, lack of investment in local transport and teh list goes on. UKIP is for the Middle Class Conservatives and Liberals and not for the common man and yet they say teh right words to get the votes knowing that people will not research their policies thoroughly - just like many on here haven't done.

At least the BNP are more honest in their policies than UKIP (whether they are racist or not!) - but I won't vote for either of them, just as much as the main 3 are not votable either!
UKIP immigration is flawed completely. The figures they use are not offocial and are in fact taken from a Bulgarian and Romanian questionnaire which asked one simple question - given the chance would you work and live in ANY other foreign country? The response is what one assumes! The same question was asked to many people in the UK and the response was 70% would move and work abroad - so does that mean 70% of UK citizens are going to move to Australia or US or any other country - no it doesn't, just as much as the majority of Bulgarians and Romanians won't be moving anywhere - FACT! Also FACT is that the extreme parties are using exact same false statistics in The Netherlands, France, Germany and even Poland - so that would mean 3 times the overall total of both Bulgaria and Romania will be moving country, which is a physical impossibility!!!! So now look closer at UKIP's other policies and lets see how much it will affect the common person - taxed higher, less benefits, splitting up the NHS, no hardened approach to banking or bankers, lack of investment in local transport and teh list goes on. UKIP is for the Middle Class Conservatives and Liberals and not for the common man and yet they say teh right words to get the votes knowing that people will not research their policies thoroughly - just like many on here haven't done. At least the BNP are more honest in their policies than UKIP (whether they are racist or not!) - but I won't vote for either of them, just as much as the main 3 are not votable either! BWFC71

11:10pm Tue 26 Mar 13

BoltonLancs says...

The figures UKIP put out doesn't matter, whether they are slightly exaggerated or not doesn't matter to people who see it for themselves every day. In my god-forsaken job I witness the increase and increase of foreigners day in day out, year in year out and its Northern mill towns that seem to bear the brunt of asylum seekers/foreign job-hunters resulting in reduced opportunities and help when in need for local people. It isn't rocket science, it isn't racism - it's the realization that this IS the no.1 problem in towns like Bolton.
Check the migration forecast figures for when Poland joined the EU and then the estimates of how many Polish actually came over to work - very, very different. One think-tank estimates less than 20,000 Romanians and Bulgarians will come here... MY @RSE..!
Don't get me wrong when it comes to immigration the Polish have been a fraction of the problem with regard to stretching our Welfare, Health systems etc resources. It has to be that, like in any right-minded country (Oz, NZ) a British-born worker who has paid into the system and is now on the scrap heap and having his benefit reduced ought to be 1st choice when he/she applies for a job and can do the job, without question..!!!!
Tories are seeing that the anti-immigration vote is building momentum thanks to UKIP and are flustering up some speil, but I have no faith that they will fight the hell on earth we know as the EU nor put the required resources in reducing immigration and expelling illegals for the good of this bankrupt nation.
They are my thoughts, and the thoughts of the majority of British born citizens and have been well before the rise and rise of UKIP...
The figures UKIP put out doesn't matter, whether they are slightly exaggerated or not doesn't matter to people who see it for themselves every day. In my god-forsaken job I witness the increase and increase of foreigners day in day out, year in year out and its Northern mill towns that seem to bear the brunt of asylum seekers/foreign job-hunters resulting in reduced opportunities and help when in need for local people. It isn't rocket science, it isn't racism - it's the realization that this IS the no.1 problem in towns like Bolton. Check the migration forecast figures for when Poland joined the EU and then the estimates of how many Polish actually came over to work - very, very different. One think-tank estimates less than 20,000 Romanians and Bulgarians will come here... MY @RSE..! Don't get me wrong when it comes to immigration the Polish have been a fraction of the problem with regard to stretching our Welfare, Health systems etc resources. It has to be that, like in any right-minded country (Oz, NZ) a British-born worker who has paid into the system and is now on the scrap heap and having his benefit reduced ought to be 1st choice when he/she applies for a job and can do the job, without question..!!!! Tories are seeing that the anti-immigration vote is building momentum thanks to UKIP and are flustering up some speil, but I have no faith that they will fight the hell on earth we know as the EU nor put the required resources in reducing immigration and expelling illegals for the good of this bankrupt nation. They are my thoughts, and the thoughts of the majority of British born citizens and have been well before the rise and rise of UKIP... BoltonLancs

9:28am Wed 27 Mar 13

wagstaff says...

Rev-ol-ution wrote:
Tory scum, we dont want you near us, go away
TORY TORY ALL THE WAY
AND GUESS WHAT WERE HERE TO STAY
GOOOOOOOOOOOOO,GREEN
Y YEA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!
X.X.X
[quote][p][bold]Rev-ol-ution[/bold] wrote: Tory scum, we dont want you near us, go away[/p][/quote]TORY TORY ALL THE WAY AND GUESS WHAT WERE HERE TO STAY GOOOOOOOOOOOOO,GREEN Y YEA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!! X.X.X wagstaff

8:56pm Wed 27 Mar 13

hoboh2o says...

wagstaff wrote:
Rev-ol-ution wrote:
Tory scum, we dont want you near us, go away
TORY TORY ALL THE WAY
AND GUESS WHAT WERE HERE TO STAY
GOOOOOOOOOOOOO,GREEN

Y YEA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

!!!!!!!!!!!!
X.X.X
No chance fella, unless Camedien takes immigration seriously, not just words and offers a cast Iron guarantee of a 'in, out' on Europe.
UKIP will massacre the Tory vote otherwise, a couple of pence off beer or holding back tax on fuel in the net budget or two will not impress anyone.
[quote][p][bold]wagstaff[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rev-ol-ution[/bold] wrote: Tory scum, we dont want you near us, go away[/p][/quote]TORY TORY ALL THE WAY AND GUESS WHAT WERE HERE TO STAY GOOOOOOOOOOOOO,GREEN Y YEA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!! X.X.X[/p][/quote]No chance fella, unless Camedien takes immigration seriously, not just words and offers a cast Iron guarantee of a 'in, out' on Europe. UKIP will massacre the Tory vote otherwise, a couple of pence off beer or holding back tax on fuel in the net budget or two will not impress anyone. hoboh2o

8:57pm Wed 27 Mar 13

bwfc58 says...

I will be Voting UKIP all the time from now on and i know of many more People that will be doing the very same . as Labour Lib Dem's . Tory's are Finnished . every one of them . and next year i predict that the Lib Dem's and Tory's will break up and there will be a early Election and UKIP will win many Seats as they are the Party for the British People Fact . watch this Space . Labour did and still do want mass immigration Tory's and Lib Dem's did and still want to Privatise every thing Fact on both account .
I will be Voting UKIP all the time from now on and i know of many more People that will be doing the very same . as Labour Lib Dem's . Tory's are Finnished . every one of them . and next year i predict that the Lib Dem's and Tory's will break up and there will be a early Election and UKIP will win many Seats as they are the Party for the British People Fact . watch this Space . Labour did and still do want mass immigration Tory's and Lib Dem's did and still want to Privatise every thing Fact on both account . bwfc58

9:53pm Wed 27 Mar 13

BoltonLancs says...

Hear hear...the tide is changing, the nice British people are gonna be fighting back. Thanks to UKIP we have a real voice, because our traditions and security matter. I watched the Eastleigh by-election unfold with the panel on This Week and I've never known Tory, LibDem and Labour MPs so shocked and so lost for positive words, it was BRILLIANT because that was a huge moment in British politics, a moment the faker parties genuinely sh1t themselves.
I can see politicians from every main party wanting to defect to UKIP. I just hope Farage distinguishes between the ones wanting the best for British workers and the sad career glory hunters...
Hear hear...the tide is changing, the nice British people are gonna be fighting back. Thanks to UKIP we have a real voice, because our traditions and security matter. I watched the Eastleigh by-election unfold with the panel on This Week and I've never known Tory, LibDem and Labour MPs so shocked and so lost for positive words, it was BRILLIANT because that was a huge moment in British politics, a moment the faker parties genuinely sh1t themselves. I can see politicians from every main party wanting to defect to UKIP. I just hope Farage distinguishes between the ones wanting the best for British workers and the sad career glory hunters... BoltonLancs

10:05pm Wed 27 Mar 13

BWFC71 says...

UKIP are not giving a voice - higher taxation otherwise a big black hole in their finances - proven point 9and thats if they pull of of the WU!! What they want and how much money they have are 2 big different things but equal they don;t have the money!!!

UKIP want to privtise the NHS - that will mean health insurance around £200/person/month - as it is in most other countries of the world - and if you dont have insurance then you suffer.

UKIP dont have a plan to stop teh bankers, in fact they want to follow the current Conservative route of little as possible.

UKIP may have grand ideas of other policies but where is the money coming from (and yes I repeat even if they did pull us out of teh EU that money wouldn't cover it)

UKIP has no plans to stop giving money to Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland who use it for free presciptions and Free (or reduced) univeristy prices!!!!

Farage has no affiliation with the working man, in fact he has never done a proper days work in his life as the money he uses comes from his welathy family - sounds very Conservative doesn;t it?

Also what about the UKIP Euro MP's the money they recieve for staff, acoomodation and for turning up - do you honestly think they want to give that up knowing that a home vote for UKIP means they lose their jobs!!!
UKIP are not giving a voice - higher taxation otherwise a big black hole in their finances - proven point 9and thats if they pull of of the WU!! What they want and how much money they have are 2 big different things but equal they don;t have the money!!! UKIP want to privtise the NHS - that will mean health insurance around £200/person/month - as it is in most other countries of the world - and if you dont have insurance then you suffer. UKIP dont have a plan to stop teh bankers, in fact they want to follow the current Conservative route of little as possible. UKIP may have grand ideas of other policies but where is the money coming from (and yes I repeat even if they did pull us out of teh EU that money wouldn't cover it) UKIP has no plans to stop giving money to Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland who use it for free presciptions and Free (or reduced) univeristy prices!!!! Farage has no affiliation with the working man, in fact he has never done a proper days work in his life as the money he uses comes from his welathy family - sounds very Conservative doesn;t it? Also what about the UKIP Euro MP's the money they recieve for staff, acoomodation and for turning up - do you honestly think they want to give that up knowing that a home vote for UKIP means they lose their jobs!!! BWFC71

10:06pm Wed 27 Mar 13

BWFC71 says...

Moderator:

WU = EU and I know I typed EU as I did spell check before posting so the system has gone wrong somewhere
Moderator: WU = EU and I know I typed EU as I did spell check before posting so the system has gone wrong somewhere BWFC71

10:10pm Wed 27 Mar 13

BWFC71 says...

BoltonLancs wrote:
Hear hear...the tide is changing, the nice British people are gonna be fighting back. Thanks to UKIP we have a real voice, because our traditions and security matter. I watched the Eastleigh by-election unfold with the panel on This Week and I've never known Tory, LibDem and Labour MPs so shocked and so lost for positive words, it was BRILLIANT because that was a huge moment in British politics, a moment the faker parties genuinely sh1t themselves.
I can see politicians from every main party wanting to defect to UKIP. I just hope Farage distinguishes between the ones wanting the best for British workers and the sad career glory hunters...
But what about the lies that UKIP told to get the votes! Lies that have been proven since the election such as using false figures and using figures from a questionnaire carried out in Bulgaria that actually did not ask whether the people would want to work in Britian or not, or what about teh figures they used that ahve been used in the other 8 EU countries to scare voters (which put together would be 3 times more than the current total populations of Bulgaria and Romania)???

UKIP lied to get teh votes and thats what matters!!!!
[quote][p][bold]BoltonLancs[/bold] wrote: Hear hear...the tide is changing, the nice British people are gonna be fighting back. Thanks to UKIP we have a real voice, because our traditions and security matter. I watched the Eastleigh by-election unfold with the panel on This Week and I've never known Tory, LibDem and Labour MPs so shocked and so lost for positive words, it was BRILLIANT because that was a huge moment in British politics, a moment the faker parties genuinely sh1t themselves. I can see politicians from every main party wanting to defect to UKIP. I just hope Farage distinguishes between the ones wanting the best for British workers and the sad career glory hunters...[/p][/quote]But what about the lies that UKIP told to get the votes! Lies that have been proven since the election such as using false figures and using figures from a questionnaire carried out in Bulgaria that actually did not ask whether the people would want to work in Britian or not, or what about teh figures they used that ahve been used in the other 8 EU countries to scare voters (which put together would be 3 times more than the current total populations of Bulgaria and Romania)??? UKIP lied to get teh votes and thats what matters!!!! BWFC71

10:40pm Wed 27 Mar 13

BoltonLancs says...

£200 p/m health insurance has just been plucked from thin air!!
UKIP policies now and UKIP policies as they grow and grow will change and it'll be a case of them having to listen to their supporters as to which direction they go, just as all the political parties had to do in their infancy.
If I knew, and it was scrutinized and guaranteed that we would get a more British Britain with
more efficient public services and priority for British tax payers, I and a hell of a lot of others would be happy to pay more income tax to fund the radical change we need.
Ok Farage was a banker, and wealthy, but the support he is mustering, particularly from the average British worker will insist he is held to account on such matters...
Let's take this opportunity to welcome a new political option. If they do 75% good in British workers eyes then it would be worth it. If they don't quite fulfill our ideas of UK utopia then at least other parties would have been forced to shift from their soft, easy middle ground to more extremes...which can only be good...
£200 p/m health insurance has just been plucked from thin air!! UKIP policies now and UKIP policies as they grow and grow will change and it'll be a case of them having to listen to their supporters as to which direction they go, just as all the political parties had to do in their infancy. If I knew, and it was scrutinized and guaranteed that we would get a more British Britain with more efficient public services and priority for British tax payers, I and a hell of a lot of others would be happy to pay more income tax to fund the radical change we need. Ok Farage was a banker, and wealthy, but the support he is mustering, particularly from the average British worker will insist he is held to account on such matters... Let's take this opportunity to welcome a new political option. If they do 75% good in British workers eyes then it would be worth it. If they don't quite fulfill our ideas of UK utopia then at least other parties would have been forced to shift from their soft, easy middle ground to more extremes...which can only be good... BoltonLancs

11:15pm Wed 27 Mar 13

BoltonLancs says...

If UKIP lied I cannot
understand why they felt the need. Even under-estimating figures would get my vote. Let's use the estimated Polish migration Vs actual migration as a template for EU member influx.
Shouldn't we get onto the topic of the real problem we face - asylum seekers and
illegal immigration, now those figures, even the liberal estimates are crazy...
...and "integration"....not a word found in most parts of Africa and Asia...
If UKIP lied I cannot understand why they felt the need. Even under-estimating figures would get my vote. Let's use the estimated Polish migration Vs actual migration as a template for EU member influx. Shouldn't we get onto the topic of the real problem we face - asylum seekers and illegal immigration, now those figures, even the liberal estimates are crazy... ...and "integration"....not a word found in most parts of Africa and Asia... BoltonLancs

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