Noise of children playing row reignites as school plans new £300,000 nursery

The Bolton News: The site of Little Ozzie’s, the pre-school attached to SS Osmund and Andrew’s The site of Little Ozzie’s, the pre-school attached to SS Osmund and Andrew’s

PEOPLE who live near a Breightmet school have restarted complaints about the "noise" of children playing after it applied to build a new £300,000 nursery building.

Little Ozzie’s, the pre-school attached to SS Osmund and Andrew’s, has spent the last six years in portable cabins off Falkirk Drive, Breightmet, since opening in September 2007.

Its plans to build the new premises, where up to 45 children aged five and under will be cared for, were shelved several times due to the economic downturn.

But nearby residents have now complained about the proposals, arguing that the noise from the children playing is already too loud.

The Bolton News reported in August 2011 how the school was forced to put a 10ft wall around its playground to block the sound from the children at playtime.

In a letter to the council William Disley, from Kilbride Avenue, said there was already a ‘severe noise nuisance’ which would only worsen should their building become a permanent fixture.

He added: “Attempts have been made with the erection of acoustic fencing but it had a minimal impact due to the high level of noise nuisance.

“The erection of a permanent building will act as a barrier and retain noise which would impact on the enjoyment of our properties and amenities.”

Headmaster John Thorpe said the plans will mean the noise will reduce for nearby residents, as the playground will move further away from the site’s edge.

He added: “The portable cabin structure has been excellent for our purposes thus far.

“It was an affordable solution to the problem, the lack of funds.

“In terms of what we want for the 21st century it’s not the sort of building we require.

“If we can provide them with an environment in which they are comfortable and happy then it is inevitable that they will learn.”

To see the proposals, search for planning application number 90726/13 on Bolton Council’s planning website.

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10:31am Sun 8 Dec 13

BWFC71 says...

Pathetic nimbies!!!

Would they be saying the same if it was THEIR children attending the school?

Some people wouldn't be happy until all children are taught on business/industrial estate with no playing fields and breathing in all the industrial fumes!!!!
Pathetic nimbies!!! Would they be saying the same if it was THEIR children attending the school? Some people wouldn't be happy until all children are taught on business/industrial estate with no playing fields and breathing in all the industrial fumes!!!! BWFC71

10:32am Sun 8 Dec 13

BePositivePeople says...

Some people really have to much time on their hands. NIMBYS get a life
Some people really have to much time on their hands. NIMBYS get a life BePositivePeople

10:39am Sun 8 Dec 13

mililly says...

This school was there a long time before people moved into that estate. They have 2 breaks a day snd 1 hr lunch..some people have nowt better to moan about...I will say though they seriously need to sort parking out when dropping and picking kids up. Its an accident waiting to happen
This school was there a long time before people moved into that estate. They have 2 breaks a day snd 1 hr lunch..some people have nowt better to moan about...I will say though they seriously need to sort parking out when dropping and picking kids up. Its an accident waiting to happen mililly

10:49am Sun 8 Dec 13

Vic_toria says...

Don't move neF a school if you don't want to hear kids !!! That's like moving next door to manchester airport n being surprised and complaing you can hear the planes ! And who are these people sat in their houses all day anyway ? If they're retired then they need to just stop being grumpy ! Oh the house of children's laughter is soooooo annoying ! Get a grip pissy moans whingers
Don't move neF a school if you don't want to hear kids !!! That's like moving next door to manchester airport n being surprised and complaing you can hear the planes ! And who are these people sat in their houses all day anyway ? If they're retired then they need to just stop being grumpy ! Oh the house of children's laughter is soooooo annoying ! Get a grip pissy moans whingers Vic_toria

11:32am Sun 8 Dec 13

mr.mark.c says...

If they went to work then it wouldnt be a problem.
If they went to work then it wouldnt be a problem. mr.mark.c

11:35am Sun 8 Dec 13

Bat E Karen says...

I live next to a primary school. There's no huge wall - just a shoulder-height fence - between us, and the noise has never bothered me at all.

You only hear the kids at playtimes and it's just the good old sound of little kids playing and enjoying themselves. There are some miserable buggers out there if that annoys them.
I live next to a primary school. There's no huge wall - just a shoulder-height fence - between us, and the noise has never bothered me at all. You only hear the kids at playtimes and it's just the good old sound of little kids playing and enjoying themselves. There are some miserable buggers out there if that annoys them. Bat E Karen

12:00pm Sun 8 Dec 13

Debben says...

who wouldnt want to listen to the chitter chatter of children playing?? now a secondary school would be a different story!
who wouldnt want to listen to the chitter chatter of children playing?? now a secondary school would be a different story! Debben

12:18pm Sun 8 Dec 13

127001 says...

'severe noise nuisance' - complete and utter nonsense! I'd call a rave a 'severe noise nuisance' - these are just kids!

The only thing I will agree on is the parking issue.
'severe noise nuisance' - complete and utter nonsense! I'd call a rave a 'severe noise nuisance' - these are just kids! The only thing I will agree on is the parking issue. 127001

12:31pm Sun 8 Dec 13

soup153 says...

Stick the extra cost of anything on the Council Tax. Or treat the area as an industrial site and provide ear defenders.
Stick the extra cost of anything on the Council Tax. Or treat the area as an industrial site and provide ear defenders. soup153

1:30pm Sun 8 Dec 13

Kayj21 says...

Have I just seriously read a pathetic news report?? People are really complaining because they can hear children laughing and playing? What world do they live in, why not complain about the noise of cars driving past their house as well while there at it. No doubt they moved there knowing there was a school there in the first place. And guess what you moaners, children have a playtime just like a vast majority would have done in your youth. What did you do during school playtime? Sit and read, draw, or just sit there staring into space?? Please do tell us you moaners. At least during their playtime here these kids are not sitting on a computer playing pointless video games, there are running around getting exercise and socialising with other children and having fun. If you don't like the noise than there is another option, MOVE HOUSE. Let kids be kids and smile for a change.
Have I just seriously read a pathetic news report?? People are really complaining because they can hear children laughing and playing? What world do they live in, why not complain about the noise of cars driving past their house as well while there at it. No doubt they moved there knowing there was a school there in the first place. And guess what you moaners, children have a playtime just like a vast majority would have done in your youth. What did you do during school playtime? Sit and read, draw, or just sit there staring into space?? Please do tell us you moaners. At least during their playtime here these kids are not sitting on a computer playing pointless video games, there are running around getting exercise and socialising with other children and having fun. If you don't like the noise than there is another option, MOVE HOUSE. Let kids be kids and smile for a change. Kayj21

1:33pm Sun 8 Dec 13

tillyflop53 says...

well i wouldnt like to live near those people who are complaining about the noise the children will make. kill joys there is nothing better than hearing children playing happily!! my only concern would be the extra traffic as there are inconsiderate drivers who double park near school and make it quite dangerous when there are young children about.
well i wouldnt like to live near those people who are complaining about the noise the children will make. kill joys there is nothing better than hearing children playing happily!! my only concern would be the extra traffic as there are inconsiderate drivers who double park near school and make it quite dangerous when there are young children about. tillyflop53

2:08pm Sun 8 Dec 13

mililly says...

tillyflop53 wrote:
well i wouldnt like to live near those people who are complaining about the noise the children will make. kill joys there is nothing better than hearing children playing happily!! my only concern would be the extra traffic as there are inconsiderate drivers who double park near school and make it quite dangerous when there are young children about.
Its absolute madness at times. Some drivers just dont seem to care where they park, standing talking to others with doors wide open..sometimes its gridlocked because people cant get through..whats it going to be like when a nursery opens..I think they should make it compulsary to use the carpark at the top...
[quote][p][bold]tillyflop53[/bold] wrote: well i wouldnt like to live near those people who are complaining about the noise the children will make. kill joys there is nothing better than hearing children playing happily!! my only concern would be the extra traffic as there are inconsiderate drivers who double park near school and make it quite dangerous when there are young children about.[/p][/quote]Its absolute madness at times. Some drivers just dont seem to care where they park, standing talking to others with doors wide open..sometimes its gridlocked because people cant get through..whats it going to be like when a nursery opens..I think they should make it compulsary to use the carpark at the top... mililly

3:22pm Sun 8 Dec 13

Rivertin says...

This type of thing really annoys me, who are those people who complain about such things, it is as if we are selling out , moaning about the natural fairly unobtrusive sounds of everyday life while turning a blind eye to the massive noise polluters eg Road traffic and aeroplanes.

It would really suit some of those at the top this, like blaming litter louts for the problems caused by pollution, blaming immigrants/pensioner
s/benefit claimants for being a financial burden on the tax payer etc If those in politics are given very soft targets they can then do something about it and blow their own trumpets (Loudly!) ....maybe a campaign should be started to amplify the sound of playground happiness to us all, hopefully it will drown out all the sounds of the machines we are used to ?
This type of thing really annoys me, who are those people who complain about such things, it is as if we are selling out , moaning about the natural fairly unobtrusive sounds of everyday life while turning a blind eye to the massive noise polluters eg Road traffic and aeroplanes. It would really suit some of those at the top this, like blaming litter louts for the problems caused by pollution, blaming immigrants/pensioner s/benefit claimants for being a financial burden on the tax payer etc If those in politics are given very soft targets they can then do something about it and blow their own trumpets (Loudly!) ....maybe a campaign should be started to amplify the sound of playground happiness to us all, hopefully it will drown out all the sounds of the machines we are used to ? Rivertin

4:02pm Sun 8 Dec 13

boydell says...

I know a person who moved to a house with the back garden a few hundred yards from a train track. Guess what , he never stops moaning about the noise.
To these people near this school I say,,,, leave the kids alone to enjoy their childhood, it wont be long until they join the millions of old moaners who can't live and let live.
I know a person who moved to a house with the back garden a few hundred yards from a train track. Guess what , he never stops moaning about the noise. To these people near this school I say,,,, leave the kids alone to enjoy their childhood, it wont be long until they join the millions of old moaners who can't live and let live. boydell

6:36pm Sun 8 Dec 13

aardwolf says...

Bill Disley, shh... hear that? I'm playing the world's saddest song on the world's smallest violin for you.... Misearble old...
Bill Disley, shh... hear that? I'm playing the world's saddest song on the world's smallest violin for you.... Misearble old... aardwolf

7:21pm Sun 8 Dec 13

yellowbeaver08 says...

If the residents in Falkirk Drive don't like the noise then they should consider moving, you can't keep a child quiet. as the saying goes "If you can't stand the heat, then Get out of the kitchen".
If the residents in Falkirk Drive don't like the noise then they should consider moving, you can't keep a child quiet. as the saying goes "If you can't stand the heat, then Get out of the kitchen". yellowbeaver08

11:25pm Sun 8 Dec 13

oftbewildered2 says...

Absolutely pathetic. The days of 'children should be seen and not heard' died in 1901 along with Queen Victoria. Supervised children (as they would be in a nursery) do make some noise of course , but from the way the residents have expressed themselves they seem to fearing a noise like wailing banshees. I suppose they (the residents) thought that if they contacted the newspaper they would get more support for their nimbyism
Absolutely pathetic. The days of 'children should be seen and not heard' died in 1901 along with Queen Victoria. Supervised children (as they would be in a nursery) do make some noise of course , but from the way the residents have expressed themselves they seem to fearing a noise like wailing banshees. I suppose they (the residents) thought that if they contacted the newspaper they would get more support for their nimbyism oftbewildered2

1:06pm Mon 9 Dec 13

boltonnut says...

People should be happy to hear the sounds of children laughing and playing.To often we see images of emaciated pot bellied children with their faces covered in flys and mucus,big forlorn eyes begging for a better life,what would they give to be able to laugh and play like our children and grandchildren do.LEAVE OUR KIDS ALONE,they grow up so fast, let them have their fun before society turns them bitter like some of us can be sometimes.
People should be happy to hear the sounds of children laughing and playing.To often we see images of emaciated pot bellied children with their faces covered in flys and mucus,big forlorn eyes begging for a better life,what would they give to be able to laugh and play like our children and grandchildren do.LEAVE OUR KIDS ALONE,they grow up so fast, let them have their fun before society turns them bitter like some of us can be sometimes. boltonnut

8:09pm Mon 9 Dec 13

Coleygiz says...

I take it that we can assume that the moaning residents didn't play out at school as children. Please, if the noise of children playing for a short amount of time upsets you then feel free to come and live in my house. It's lovely and quiet during the day but not at night. A party in full swing at 1am, teenage girls screaming, the deep boom boom of the music that, just because they like it they think everyone else does and the awful smell of cannabis when you go to complain. Give me the sound of children having fun at school anytime
I take it that we can assume that the moaning residents didn't play out at school as children. Please, if the noise of children playing for a short amount of time upsets you then feel free to come and live in my house. It's lovely and quiet during the day but not at night. A party in full swing at 1am, teenage girls screaming, the deep boom boom of the music that, just because they like it they think everyone else does and the awful smell of cannabis when you go to complain. Give me the sound of children having fun at school anytime Coleygiz

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