Firm fined £30,000 over state of 'filthy' bakery

The Bolton News: Some examples of the filthy conditions found on the premises Some examples of the filthy conditions found on the premises

A FOOD firm has been stung with a £30,000 bill for the filthy state of one of its bakeries.

The £27,000 fine, plus £3,000 costs, is thought to be the highest that has been dished out to a food company in Bolton.

The prosecution came about after a routine inspection at Coleman’s Bakery, in Chorley Old Road, when Fast Business Services Limited took over the premises in February 2012.

Despite a number of warnings the company continued to deliver poor food hygiene standards.

The nine offences, which happened between May and September last year, related to dirty equipment, the state of the structure of the premises and the company’s non-compliance with pest proofing the building.

One of the offences related to whether a member of staff, Mohammed Ebrahim Tarkesh Dooz, had received any food hygiene training.

Fast Business Services Limited was fined £3,000 for each of the nine offences at Bolton Magistrates Court on Thursday — a total of £27,000.

A further £3,000 in costs was also awarded to Bolton Council.

The Bolton News understands it is the highest fine issued to a food company in Bolton. The business is now operated by another company.


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Cllr Nick Peel, the council's executive cabinet member for environmental services and regulations, said: “Bolton Council will work with food businesses to help them comply with food hygiene legislation.

"However, legal action is taken against those businesses who fail to comply and operate businesses where there is a risk to public health.

“In this case, the level of fine reflects the seriousness of the offences and the poor attitude of the company towards compliance with the law.”

People can check the outcome of food hygiene inspections by looking at the food hygiene rating awarded under the Food Hygiene Rating Scheme at ratings.gov.uk.

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6:51pm Mon 9 Dec 13

thomas222 says...

Surprise surprise.. when was the last time you said i had a great curry in a take away ?
Surprise surprise.. when was the last time you said i had a great curry in a take away ? thomas222

7:14pm Mon 9 Dec 13

MMHolmes says...

Used to love Coleman's pies, eaten them for years.

Was a bit concerned when the shop got sold and have only been once since.

Their trademark Meat & Potato pies are now rank.

And now this comes out. Glad we stopped going when we did.
Used to love Coleman's pies, eaten them for years. Was a bit concerned when the shop got sold and have only been once since. Their trademark Meat & Potato pies are now rank. And now this comes out. Glad we stopped going when we did. MMHolmes

8:24pm Mon 9 Dec 13

The Running Man says...

And the chances of that fine getting paid are:... answers on a postcard please.
And the chances of that fine getting paid are:... answers on a postcard please. The Running Man

9:06pm Mon 9 Dec 13

dougie kay says...

probably a four star restaruant classifacation. by their standards, myself I would sooner eat roadkill than buy and eat the pig swill they pass of as food .the human digestive system takes 48hours to convert food to excrement.these places can do it in minutes
probably a four star restaruant classifacation. by their standards, myself I would sooner eat roadkill than buy and eat the pig swill they pass of as food .the human digestive system takes 48hours to convert food to excrement.these places can do it in minutes dougie kay

9:50pm Mon 9 Dec 13

Wolfie190 says...

I used to get my meat n potato pies from there it was recommended to me and they were right the best pies in Bolton, Not been for a couple of years.
I used to get my meat n potato pies from there it was recommended to me and they were right the best pies in Bolton, Not been for a couple of years. Wolfie190

9:53pm Mon 9 Dec 13

Greasy Chip Butty says...

thomas222 - What's a curry got to do with a bakery?
What is your point?
thomas222 - What's a curry got to do with a bakery? What is your point? Greasy Chip Butty

12:21am Tue 10 Dec 13

danssoncabaret says...

Boycott the shop, don't buy anything from them. give them a swerve. After all the warnings and fines. Mr Mohammed Ebrahim Tarkesh Dooz stll shows his reluctance to undertake a hygiene course!. So just stay away.His business will either sink or swim! It's up to him.
Boycott the shop, don't buy anything from them. give them a swerve. After all the warnings and fines. Mr Mohammed Ebrahim Tarkesh Dooz stll shows his reluctance to undertake a hygiene course!. So just stay away.His business will either sink or swim! It's up to him. danssoncabaret

1:08am Tue 10 Dec 13

wild one says...

danssoncabaret wrote:
Boycott the shop, don't buy anything from them. give them a swerve. After all the warnings and fines. Mr Mohammed Ebrahim Tarkesh Dooz stll shows his reluctance to undertake a hygiene course!. So just stay away.His business will either sink or swim! It's up to him.
sink, the sooner the better
[quote][p][bold]danssoncabaret[/bold] wrote: Boycott the shop, don't buy anything from them. give them a swerve. After all the warnings and fines. Mr Mohammed Ebrahim Tarkesh Dooz stll shows his reluctance to undertake a hygiene course!. So just stay away.His business will either sink or swim! It's up to him.[/p][/quote]sink, the sooner the better wild one

8:04am Tue 10 Dec 13

thomas222 says...

Greasy Chip Butty wrote:
thomas222 - What's a curry got to do with a bakery? What is your point?
The point was. No care or concern for quality hygeine and standards in many Asian food shops as is proved by the prosecutions handed out in the last few years.
[quote][p][bold]Greasy Chip Butty[/bold] wrote: thomas222 - What's a curry got to do with a bakery? What is your point?[/p][/quote]The point was. No care or concern for quality hygeine and standards in many Asian food shops as is proved by the prosecutions handed out in the last few years. thomas222

8:48am Tue 10 Dec 13

thankfully_not_from_here says...

thomas222 wrote:
Greasy Chip Butty wrote:
thomas222 - What's a curry got to do with a bakery? What is your point?
The point was. No care or concern for quality hygeine and standards in many Asian food shops as is proved by the prosecutions handed out in the last few years.
This is correct, the number of times i have been on this site/read the paper, this is a common occurance with asians that run food businesses, they obviously dont give a **** what they serve people. These fines are a joke, they will either not pay it, pay it because they can afford to & re-open another shop using another name or just transfer it in to someone elses name....

its all about turning a quick buck... disgusting
[quote][p][bold]thomas222[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Greasy Chip Butty[/bold] wrote: thomas222 - What's a curry got to do with a bakery? What is your point?[/p][/quote]The point was. No care or concern for quality hygeine and standards in many Asian food shops as is proved by the prosecutions handed out in the last few years.[/p][/quote]This is correct, the number of times i have been on this site/read the paper, this is a common occurance with asians that run food businesses, they obviously dont give a **** what they serve people. These fines are a joke, they will either not pay it, pay it because they can afford to & re-open another shop using another name or just transfer it in to someone elses name.... its all about turning a quick buck... disgusting thankfully_not_from_here

9:38am Tue 10 Dec 13

Citizen Cane says...

I don't think that conclusions about all Asian businesses can be drawn from a few examples. However, the likelihood is that the fine will never be paid. Perhaps the BN will do some proper reporting and follow that one up? Maybe also investigate what else Tarkesh Dooz is involved in?
I don't think that conclusions about all Asian businesses can be drawn from a few examples. However, the likelihood is that the fine will never be paid. Perhaps the BN will do some proper reporting and follow that one up? Maybe also investigate what else Tarkesh Dooz is involved in? Citizen Cane

10:20am Tue 10 Dec 13

itsnotthatbad says...

I myself prefer the pies made by hilary briss in royston vasey :-) mmmmm very tasty!!....
I myself prefer the pies made by hilary briss in royston vasey :-) mmmmm very tasty!!.... itsnotthatbad

11:37am Tue 10 Dec 13

Mike23 says...

When are trading standards going to put some weight behind their outfit?

These people should not be allowed to run a food business until they can demonstrate a professional understanding of what it means to run a business of this nature.

Anyone who is found to be breaking trading standards/hygiene codes should not be able to run a business of this type again until the can prove they are fit for purpose.

Whether this is achieved by licence or annual certification really should be put to the top of the trading agenda.

I think its a case with so many small businesses that they just cut corners, and they put at risk many other small businesses who run a clean establishment.
When are trading standards going to put some weight behind their outfit? These people should not be allowed to run a food business until they can demonstrate a professional understanding of what it means to run a business of this nature. Anyone who is found to be breaking trading standards/hygiene codes should not be able to run a business of this type again until the can prove they are fit for purpose. Whether this is achieved by licence or annual certification really should be put to the top of the trading agenda. I think its a case with so many small businesses that they just cut corners, and they put at risk many other small businesses who run a clean establishment. Mike23

2:14pm Tue 10 Dec 13

SleepingThunder says...

They put every thing but the Kitchen sink into that business.They said "they are throwing the towel in" but they have not got any.

Merry Christmas.
They put every thing but the Kitchen sink into that business.They said "they are throwing the towel in" but they have not got any. Merry Christmas. SleepingThunder

5:47pm Tue 10 Dec 13

Greasy Chip Butty says...

Talk about stereotypical blanket statements from the same individuals.
My advice to you, stay away from any shops which are "alien" to you thomas222
Talk about stereotypical blanket statements from the same individuals. My advice to you, stay away from any shops which are "alien" to you thomas222 Greasy Chip Butty

7:46pm Tue 10 Dec 13

serendipity2 says...

Yet another dirty food establishment lets hope the BEN follow up to check if the fine is paid in full or if the owner opens a new etablishment.
Yet another dirty food establishment lets hope the BEN follow up to check if the fine is paid in full or if the owner opens a new etablishment. serendipity2

7:55pm Tue 10 Dec 13

serendipity2 says...

serendipity2 wrote:
Yet another dirty food establishment lets hope the BEN follow up to check if the fine is paid in full or if the owner opens a new etablishment.
whoops another cope out

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[quote][p][bold]serendipity2[/bold] wrote: Yet another dirty food establishment lets hope the BEN follow up to check if the fine is paid in full or if the owner opens a new etablishment.[/p][/quote]whoops another cope out http://www.companies intheuk.co.uk/ltd/fa st-business-services Active - Proposal to Strike off (when checked on 1 Dec 2013) serendipity2

9:01pm Tue 10 Dec 13

thankfully_not_from_here says...

Greasy Chip Butty wrote:
Talk about stereotypical blanket statements from the same individuals. My advice to you, stay away from any shops which are "alien" to you thomas222
Oh I do for your information, I've seen what these shitholes are like, and that's why I don't eat from those places, they cook in scary conditions and god knows what they put in the food, enjoy your fake ham and pineapple pizza 'greasy chip butty'
[quote][p][bold]Greasy Chip Butty[/bold] wrote: Talk about stereotypical blanket statements from the same individuals. My advice to you, stay away from any shops which are "alien" to you thomas222[/p][/quote]Oh I do for your information, I've seen what these shitholes are like, and that's why I don't eat from those places, they cook in scary conditions and god knows what they put in the food, enjoy your fake ham and pineapple pizza 'greasy chip butty' thankfully_not_from_here

10:41pm Tue 10 Dec 13

Maryla419 says...

I am very surprise how easily people believe anything they read in news paper. As you can see these nine offences that have been mentioned are not a serious hygiene issues, e.g. finding food poisoning or pest in premises, how can this business be fined by £30000 pound for such basic issues? Are we trying to wipe off small business in favours of big boys?
I am very surprise how easily people believe anything they read in news paper. As you can see these nine offences that have been mentioned are not a serious hygiene issues, e.g. finding food poisoning or pest in premises, how can this business be fined by £30000 pound for such basic issues? Are we trying to wipe off small business in favours of big boys? Maryla419

11:04pm Tue 10 Dec 13

W1NGM4N says...

Who ate all the pies!!!!!
Who ate all the pies!!!!! W1NGM4N

12:08am Wed 11 Dec 13

lv8151 says...

Maryla419 wrote:
I am very surprise how easily people believe anything they read in news paper. As you can see these nine offences that have been mentioned are not a serious hygiene issues, e.g. finding food poisoning or pest in premises, how can this business be fined by £30000 pound for such basic issues? Are we trying to wipe off small business in favours of big boys?
NO ... the authorities are trying to stop all these issues (as they should) before the issues of food poisoning come about .... from your comment i can imagine the state of your kitchen at home if you find this matter trivial
[quote][p][bold]Maryla419[/bold] wrote: I am very surprise how easily people believe anything they read in news paper. As you can see these nine offences that have been mentioned are not a serious hygiene issues, e.g. finding food poisoning or pest in premises, how can this business be fined by £30000 pound for such basic issues? Are we trying to wipe off small business in favours of big boys?[/p][/quote]NO ... the authorities are trying to stop all these issues (as they should) before the issues of food poisoning come about .... from your comment i can imagine the state of your kitchen at home if you find this matter trivial lv8151

12:19am Wed 11 Dec 13

wsw69 says...

I used to buy regularly from Colemans bottom shop and the top shop when Mrs Edge owned it. Everything was top notch. I first bought from there in 1995 up to her selling it. Another fine food establishment sadly down the pot.

The bottom shop was sold about 5 years ago and was soon changed to an asian takeaway.

The last time I visited the top shop, the one that is mentioned in the article, the food was horrendous. That was about 13 months ago.
I used to buy regularly from Colemans bottom shop and the top shop when Mrs Edge owned it. Everything was top notch. I first bought from there in 1995 up to her selling it. Another fine food establishment sadly down the pot. The bottom shop was sold about 5 years ago and was soon changed to an asian takeaway. The last time I visited the top shop, the one that is mentioned in the article, the food was horrendous. That was about 13 months ago. wsw69

12:55am Wed 11 Dec 13

Maryla419 says...

I like to hear the Coleman’s statement, rather then judging them only on what Bolton Council declare, since I haven’t seen any changes in Coleman’s quality and service.
I like to hear the Coleman’s statement, rather then judging them only on what Bolton Council declare, since I haven’t seen any changes in Coleman’s quality and service. Maryla419

10:50am Wed 11 Dec 13

adatherton says...

OMG we used to go there for sandwiches every day. We are going to Quality Sandwich Bar across the road now. (still using Coleman's little 2-car car park though lol)
OMG we used to go there for sandwiches every day. We are going to Quality Sandwich Bar across the road now. (still using Coleman's little 2-car car park though lol) adatherton

11:23am Wed 11 Dec 13

MMHolmes says...

Maryla419 wrote:
I like to hear the Coleman’s statement, rather then judging them only on what Bolton Council declare, since I haven’t seen any changes in Coleman’s quality and service.
I'm basing my thoughts and comments on personal experience. We've been once since the sale (didn't even know it had been sold at the time, actually). Bought 2 meat & potato pies (as we'd done for twenty years previously) and were very disappointed with what we got.
What used to be delicious, hot pies were absolute garbage with more potato than anything else in them.
And your spirited defence of the shop smacks of vested personal interest.

Hmmm..........?
[quote][p][bold]Maryla419[/bold] wrote: I like to hear the Coleman’s statement, rather then judging them only on what Bolton Council declare, since I haven’t seen any changes in Coleman’s quality and service.[/p][/quote]I'm basing my thoughts and comments on personal experience. We've been once since the sale (didn't even know it had been sold at the time, actually). Bought 2 meat & potato pies (as we'd done for twenty years previously) and were very disappointed with what we got. What used to be delicious, hot pies were absolute garbage with more potato than anything else in them. And your spirited defence of the shop smacks of vested personal interest. Hmmm..........? MMHolmes

12:08pm Wed 11 Dec 13

thomas222 says...

Greasy Chip Butty wrote:
Talk about stereotypical blanket statements from the same individuals. My advice to you, stay away from any shops which are "alien" to you thomas222
I only eat what i know is clean quality non halal food thanks so Asian for food shopping is out for me.
[quote][p][bold]Greasy Chip Butty[/bold] wrote: Talk about stereotypical blanket statements from the same individuals. My advice to you, stay away from any shops which are "alien" to you thomas222[/p][/quote]I only eat what i know is clean quality non halal food thanks so Asian for food shopping is out for me. thomas222

12:13pm Wed 11 Dec 13

thomas222 says...

Maryla419 wrote:
I am very surprise how easily people believe anything they read in news paper. As you can see these nine offences that have been mentioned are not a serious hygiene issues, e.g. finding food poisoning or pest in premises, how can this business be fined by £30000 pound for such basic issues? Are we trying to wipe off small business in favours of big boys?
You have no understanding of what life can be put in danger by your comments above. Basic issues maybee in Muslim Countrys but is a issue here. Welcome to the developed world!
[quote][p][bold]Maryla419[/bold] wrote: I am very surprise how easily people believe anything they read in news paper. As you can see these nine offences that have been mentioned are not a serious hygiene issues, e.g. finding food poisoning or pest in premises, how can this business be fined by £30000 pound for such basic issues? Are we trying to wipe off small business in favours of big boys?[/p][/quote]You have no understanding of what life can be put in danger by your comments above. Basic issues maybee in Muslim Countrys but is a issue here. Welcome to the developed world! thomas222

2:48pm Wed 11 Dec 13

Maryla419 says...

I can see racisms in these comments. We shouldn't forget that all staff at Column’s are English and most of them have been there for years.
I can see racisms in these comments. We shouldn't forget that all staff at Column’s are English and most of them have been there for years. Maryla419

3:27pm Wed 11 Dec 13

fieldinga@ymail.com says...

dougie kay wrote:
probably a four star restaruant classifacation. by their standards, myself I would sooner eat roadkill than buy and eat the pig swill they pass of as food .the human digestive system takes 48hours to convert food to excrement.these places can do it in minutes
best quote i have heard for a long time, as i have commented on yahoo news stories, never go to these swill outlets, and never will..........
[quote][p][bold]dougie kay[/bold] wrote: probably a four star restaruant classifacation. by their standards, myself I would sooner eat roadkill than buy and eat the pig swill they pass of as food .the human digestive system takes 48hours to convert food to excrement.these places can do it in minutes[/p][/quote]best quote i have heard for a long time, as i have commented on yahoo news stories, never go to these swill outlets, and never will.......... fieldinga@ymail.com

5:29pm Wed 11 Dec 13

thomas222 says...

Maryla419 wrote:
I can see racisms in these comments. We shouldn't forget that all staff at Column’s are English and most of them have been there for years.
Not racist exposing people who have dirty habits with hygiene standards that put peoples lives in danger you idiot, just a know true fact that they are all Muslims!!!! wonder if you know of any others who have been charged with this disgusting display other than Musims... British none Italian none Jewish non....... The race card dont work no more change the record.... Fool!
[quote][p][bold]Maryla419[/bold] wrote: I can see racisms in these comments. We shouldn't forget that all staff at Column’s are English and most of them have been there for years.[/p][/quote]Not racist exposing people who have dirty habits with hygiene standards that put peoples lives in danger you idiot, just a know true fact that they are all Muslims!!!! wonder if you know of any others who have been charged with this disgusting display other than Musims... British none Italian none Jewish non....... The race card dont work no more change the record.... Fool! thomas222

6:43pm Wed 11 Dec 13

Bert_Anchovy says...

Drove past today at lunchtime, not a sole in the place. News travels quickly, no surprise really, one look at the slovenly owner tells it all.
Drove past today at lunchtime, not a sole in the place. News travels quickly, no surprise really, one look at the slovenly owner tells it all. Bert_Anchovy

7:36pm Wed 11 Dec 13

Donkey Stone says...

Maryla419 wrote:
I am very surprise how easily people believe anything they read in news paper. As you can see these nine offences that have been mentioned are not a serious hygiene issues, e.g. finding food poisoning or pest in premises, how can this business be fined by £30000 pound for such basic issues? Are we trying to wipe off small business in favours of big boys?
Are you in the toilet roll business?
[quote][p][bold]Maryla419[/bold] wrote: I am very surprise how easily people believe anything they read in news paper. As you can see these nine offences that have been mentioned are not a serious hygiene issues, e.g. finding food poisoning or pest in premises, how can this business be fined by £30000 pound for such basic issues? Are we trying to wipe off small business in favours of big boys?[/p][/quote]Are you in the toilet roll business? Donkey Stone

7:39pm Wed 11 Dec 13

Donkey Stone says...

Maryla419 wrote:
I can see racisms in these comments. We shouldn't forget that all staff at Column’s are English and most of them have been there for years.
The staff don't set the tone, that is the owners job. Who made you the judge of what is racist and what isn't.
[quote][p][bold]Maryla419[/bold] wrote: I can see racisms in these comments. We shouldn't forget that all staff at Column’s are English and most of them have been there for years.[/p][/quote]The staff don't set the tone, that is the owners job. Who made you the judge of what is racist and what isn't. Donkey Stone

7:49pm Wed 11 Dec 13

wsw69 says...

Donkey Stone wrote:
Maryla419 wrote:
I am very surprise how easily people believe anything they read in news paper. As you can see these nine offences that have been mentioned are not a serious hygiene issues, e.g. finding food poisoning or pest in premises, how can this business be fined by £30000 pound for such basic issues? Are we trying to wipe off small business in favours of big boys?
Are you in the toilet roll business?
You are pathetic if you think these are basic issues.

In all honesty I think you are linked to the owner of Colemans. Your grammar is poor, your opinions are pathetic. With the sound of things you'd probably dine from a toilet seat.

Had the business owner kept the shop in the condition and manner expected, as the previous owner Mrs Edge did so for many years, then quite simply, the owners would have nothing to '**** about', would they.

That shop probably takes well less than 50% of what it did do under Mrs Edges ownership.

Play by the rules and it works out the cheapest way when all said and done. As well as keeping customers coming through the doors.
[quote][p][bold]Donkey Stone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maryla419[/bold] wrote: I am very surprise how easily people believe anything they read in news paper. As you can see these nine offences that have been mentioned are not a serious hygiene issues, e.g. finding food poisoning or pest in premises, how can this business be fined by £30000 pound for such basic issues? Are we trying to wipe off small business in favours of big boys?[/p][/quote]Are you in the toilet roll business?[/p][/quote]You are pathetic if you think these are basic issues. In all honesty I think you are linked to the owner of Colemans. Your grammar is poor, your opinions are pathetic. With the sound of things you'd probably dine from a toilet seat. Had the business owner kept the shop in the condition and manner expected, as the previous owner Mrs Edge did so for many years, then quite simply, the owners would have nothing to '**** about', would they. That shop probably takes well less than 50% of what it did do under Mrs Edges ownership. Play by the rules and it works out the cheapest way when all said and done. As well as keeping customers coming through the doors. wsw69

11:33pm Wed 11 Dec 13

Maryla419 says...

wsw69 wrote:
Donkey Stone wrote:
Maryla419 wrote:
I am very surprise how easily people believe anything they read in news paper. As you can see these nine offences that have been mentioned are not a serious hygiene issues, e.g. finding food poisoning or pest in premises, how can this business be fined by £30000 pound for such basic issues? Are we trying to wipe off small business in favours of big boys?
Are you in the toilet roll business?
You are pathetic if you think these are basic issues.

In all honesty I think you are linked to the owner of Colemans. Your grammar is poor, your opinions are pathetic. With the sound of things you'd probably dine from a toilet seat.

Had the business owner kept the shop in the condition and manner expected, as the previous owner Mrs Edge did so for many years, then quite simply, the owners would have nothing to '**** about', would they.

That shop probably takes well less than 50% of what it did do under Mrs Edges ownership.

Play by the rules and it works out the cheapest way when all said and done. As well as keeping customers coming through the doors.
You are really Donkey, because you don’t know anything about food hygiene, get some education stupid .
[quote][p][bold]wsw69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Donkey Stone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maryla419[/bold] wrote: I am very surprise how easily people believe anything they read in news paper. As you can see these nine offences that have been mentioned are not a serious hygiene issues, e.g. finding food poisoning or pest in premises, how can this business be fined by £30000 pound for such basic issues? Are we trying to wipe off small business in favours of big boys?[/p][/quote]Are you in the toilet roll business?[/p][/quote]You are pathetic if you think these are basic issues. In all honesty I think you are linked to the owner of Colemans. Your grammar is poor, your opinions are pathetic. With the sound of things you'd probably dine from a toilet seat. Had the business owner kept the shop in the condition and manner expected, as the previous owner Mrs Edge did so for many years, then quite simply, the owners would have nothing to '**** about', would they. That shop probably takes well less than 50% of what it did do under Mrs Edges ownership. Play by the rules and it works out the cheapest way when all said and done. As well as keeping customers coming through the doors.[/p][/quote]You are really Donkey, because you don’t know anything about food hygiene, get some education stupid . Maryla419

11:41pm Wed 11 Dec 13

wsw69 says...

Maryla419 wrote:
wsw69 wrote:
Donkey Stone wrote:
Maryla419 wrote:
I am very surprise how easily people believe anything they read in news paper. As you can see these nine offences that have been mentioned are not a serious hygiene issues, e.g. finding food poisoning or pest in premises, how can this business be fined by £30000 pound for such basic issues? Are we trying to wipe off small business in favours of big boys?
Are you in the toilet roll business?
You are pathetic if you think these are basic issues.

In all honesty I think you are linked to the owner of Colemans. Your grammar is poor, your opinions are pathetic. With the sound of things you'd probably dine from a toilet seat.

Had the business owner kept the shop in the condition and manner expected, as the previous owner Mrs Edge did so for many years, then quite simply, the owners would have nothing to '**** about', would they.

That shop probably takes well less than 50% of what it did do under Mrs Edges ownership.

Play by the rules and it works out the cheapest way when all said and done. As well as keeping customers coming through the doors.
You are really Donkey, because you don’t know anything about food hygiene, get some education stupid .
And you think you have ANY idea whatsoever about food hygiene - get real. Your earlier comments quite clearly prove you have no idea.
[quote][p][bold]Maryla419[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wsw69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Donkey Stone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maryla419[/bold] wrote: I am very surprise how easily people believe anything they read in news paper. As you can see these nine offences that have been mentioned are not a serious hygiene issues, e.g. finding food poisoning or pest in premises, how can this business be fined by £30000 pound for such basic issues? Are we trying to wipe off small business in favours of big boys?[/p][/quote]Are you in the toilet roll business?[/p][/quote]You are pathetic if you think these are basic issues. In all honesty I think you are linked to the owner of Colemans. Your grammar is poor, your opinions are pathetic. With the sound of things you'd probably dine from a toilet seat. Had the business owner kept the shop in the condition and manner expected, as the previous owner Mrs Edge did so for many years, then quite simply, the owners would have nothing to '**** about', would they. That shop probably takes well less than 50% of what it did do under Mrs Edges ownership. Play by the rules and it works out the cheapest way when all said and done. As well as keeping customers coming through the doors.[/p][/quote]You are really Donkey, because you don’t know anything about food hygiene, get some education stupid .[/p][/quote]And you think you have ANY idea whatsoever about food hygiene - get real. Your earlier comments quite clearly prove you have no idea. wsw69

8:37am Thu 12 Dec 13

thomas222 says...

Maryla419 wrote:
wsw69 wrote:
Donkey Stone wrote:
Maryla419 wrote: I am very surprise how easily people believe anything they read in news paper. As you can see these nine offences that have been mentioned are not a serious hygiene issues, e.g. finding food poisoning or pest in premises, how can this business be fined by £30000 pound for such basic issues? Are we trying to wipe off small business in favours of big boys?
Are you in the toilet roll business?
You are pathetic if you think these are basic issues. In all honesty I think you are linked to the owner of Colemans. Your grammar is poor, your opinions are pathetic. With the sound of things you'd probably dine from a toilet seat. Had the business owner kept the shop in the condition and manner expected, as the previous owner Mrs Edge did so for many years, then quite simply, the owners would have nothing to '**** about', would they. That shop probably takes well less than 50% of what it did do under Mrs Edges ownership. Play by the rules and it works out the cheapest way when all said and done. As well as keeping customers coming through the doors.
You are really Donkey, because you don’t know anything about food hygiene, get some education stupid .
Maryla your the fool crying the racist card as is the usual cry when Muslims are caught red handed doing unaceptable deeds like dirty hygene , pedophiles, doctors surgerys etc. The race card is finished get over it and stop using race and religion to get away with the muslim failings of being able to integrate with other peoples. Not just brits either as these issues are going on in the world where ever we take you people in for better lives.. Your pathetic wingers.
[quote][p][bold]Maryla419[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wsw69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Donkey Stone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maryla419[/bold] wrote: I am very surprise how easily people believe anything they read in news paper. As you can see these nine offences that have been mentioned are not a serious hygiene issues, e.g. finding food poisoning or pest in premises, how can this business be fined by £30000 pound for such basic issues? Are we trying to wipe off small business in favours of big boys?[/p][/quote]Are you in the toilet roll business?[/p][/quote]You are pathetic if you think these are basic issues. In all honesty I think you are linked to the owner of Colemans. Your grammar is poor, your opinions are pathetic. With the sound of things you'd probably dine from a toilet seat. Had the business owner kept the shop in the condition and manner expected, as the previous owner Mrs Edge did so for many years, then quite simply, the owners would have nothing to '**** about', would they. That shop probably takes well less than 50% of what it did do under Mrs Edges ownership. Play by the rules and it works out the cheapest way when all said and done. As well as keeping customers coming through the doors.[/p][/quote]You are really Donkey, because you don’t know anything about food hygiene, get some education stupid .[/p][/quote]Maryla your the fool crying the racist card as is the usual cry when Muslims are caught red handed doing unaceptable deeds like dirty hygene , pedophiles, doctors surgerys etc. The race card is finished get over it and stop using race and religion to get away with the muslim failings of being able to integrate with other peoples. Not just brits either as these issues are going on in the world where ever we take you people in for better lives.. Your pathetic wingers. thomas222

10:04am Thu 12 Dec 13

Maryla419 says...

thomas222 wrote:
Maryla419 wrote:
wsw69 wrote:
Donkey Stone wrote:
Maryla419 wrote: I am very surprise how easily people believe anything they read in news paper. As you can see these nine offences that have been mentioned are not a serious hygiene issues, e.g. finding food poisoning or pest in premises, how can this business be fined by £30000 pound for such basic issues? Are we trying to wipe off small business in favours of big boys?
Are you in the toilet roll business?
You are pathetic if you think these are basic issues. In all honesty I think you are linked to the owner of Colemans. Your grammar is poor, your opinions are pathetic. With the sound of things you'd probably dine from a toilet seat. Had the business owner kept the shop in the condition and manner expected, as the previous owner Mrs Edge did so for many years, then quite simply, the owners would have nothing to '**** about', would they. That shop probably takes well less than 50% of what it did do under Mrs Edges ownership. Play by the rules and it works out the cheapest way when all said and done. As well as keeping customers coming through the doors.
You are really Donkey, because you don’t know anything about food hygiene, get some education stupid .
Maryla your the fool crying the racist card as is the usual cry when Muslims are caught red handed doing unaceptable deeds like dirty hygene , pedophiles, doctors surgerys etc. The race card is finished get over it and stop using race and religion to get away with the muslim failings of being able to integrate with other peoples. Not just brits either as these issues are going on in the world where ever we take you people in for better lives.. Your pathetic wingers.
Just shut your **** because you talk from there
[quote][p][bold]thomas222[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maryla419[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wsw69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Donkey Stone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maryla419[/bold] wrote: I am very surprise how easily people believe anything they read in news paper. As you can see these nine offences that have been mentioned are not a serious hygiene issues, e.g. finding food poisoning or pest in premises, how can this business be fined by £30000 pound for such basic issues? Are we trying to wipe off small business in favours of big boys?[/p][/quote]Are you in the toilet roll business?[/p][/quote]You are pathetic if you think these are basic issues. In all honesty I think you are linked to the owner of Colemans. Your grammar is poor, your opinions are pathetic. With the sound of things you'd probably dine from a toilet seat. Had the business owner kept the shop in the condition and manner expected, as the previous owner Mrs Edge did so for many years, then quite simply, the owners would have nothing to '**** about', would they. That shop probably takes well less than 50% of what it did do under Mrs Edges ownership. Play by the rules and it works out the cheapest way when all said and done. As well as keeping customers coming through the doors.[/p][/quote]You are really Donkey, because you don’t know anything about food hygiene, get some education stupid .[/p][/quote]Maryla your the fool crying the racist card as is the usual cry when Muslims are caught red handed doing unaceptable deeds like dirty hygene , pedophiles, doctors surgerys etc. The race card is finished get over it and stop using race and religion to get away with the muslim failings of being able to integrate with other peoples. Not just brits either as these issues are going on in the world where ever we take you people in for better lives.. Your pathetic wingers.[/p][/quote]Just shut your **** because you talk from there Maryla419

10:56am Thu 12 Dec 13

thomas222 says...

Maryla419 wrote:
thomas222 wrote:
Maryla419 wrote:
wsw69 wrote:
Donkey Stone wrote:
Maryla419 wrote: I am very surprise how easily people believe anything they read in news paper. As you can see these nine offences that have been mentioned are not a serious hygiene issues, e.g. finding food poisoning or pest in premises, how can this business be fined by £30000 pound for such basic issues? Are we trying to wipe off small business in favours of big boys?
Are you in the toilet roll business?
You are pathetic if you think these are basic issues. In all honesty I think you are linked to the owner of Colemans. Your grammar is poor, your opinions are pathetic. With the sound of things you'd probably dine from a toilet seat. Had the business owner kept the shop in the condition and manner expected, as the previous owner Mrs Edge did so for many years, then quite simply, the owners would have nothing to '**** about', would they. That shop probably takes well less than 50% of what it did do under Mrs Edges ownership. Play by the rules and it works out the cheapest way when all said and done. As well as keeping customers coming through the doors.
You are really Donkey, because you don’t know anything about food hygiene, get some education stupid .
Maryla your the fool crying the racist card as is the usual cry when Muslims are caught red handed doing unaceptable deeds like dirty hygene , pedophiles, doctors surgerys etc. The race card is finished get over it and stop using race and religion to get away with the muslim failings of being able to integrate with other peoples. Not just brits either as these issues are going on in the world where ever we take you people in for better lives.. Your pathetic wingers.
Just shut your **** because you talk from there
race card dont work resort to the usual insults...... you lot are finished the games up! hahahahahaha x
[quote][p][bold]Maryla419[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomas222[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maryla419[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wsw69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Donkey Stone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maryla419[/bold] wrote: I am very surprise how easily people believe anything they read in news paper. As you can see these nine offences that have been mentioned are not a serious hygiene issues, e.g. finding food poisoning or pest in premises, how can this business be fined by £30000 pound for such basic issues? Are we trying to wipe off small business in favours of big boys?[/p][/quote]Are you in the toilet roll business?[/p][/quote]You are pathetic if you think these are basic issues. In all honesty I think you are linked to the owner of Colemans. Your grammar is poor, your opinions are pathetic. With the sound of things you'd probably dine from a toilet seat. Had the business owner kept the shop in the condition and manner expected, as the previous owner Mrs Edge did so for many years, then quite simply, the owners would have nothing to '**** about', would they. That shop probably takes well less than 50% of what it did do under Mrs Edges ownership. Play by the rules and it works out the cheapest way when all said and done. As well as keeping customers coming through the doors.[/p][/quote]You are really Donkey, because you don’t know anything about food hygiene, get some education stupid .[/p][/quote]Maryla your the fool crying the racist card as is the usual cry when Muslims are caught red handed doing unaceptable deeds like dirty hygene , pedophiles, doctors surgerys etc. The race card is finished get over it and stop using race and religion to get away with the muslim failings of being able to integrate with other peoples. Not just brits either as these issues are going on in the world where ever we take you people in for better lives.. Your pathetic wingers.[/p][/quote]Just shut your **** because you talk from there[/p][/quote]race card dont work resort to the usual insults...... you lot are finished the games up! hahahahahaha x thomas222

1:59pm Thu 12 Dec 13

WATOAOW says...

wsw69 wrote:
Donkey Stone wrote:
Maryla419 wrote: I am very surprise how easily people believe anything they read in news paper. As you can see these nine offences that have been mentioned are not a serious hygiene issues, e.g. finding food poisoning or pest in premises, how can this business be fined by £30000 pound for such basic issues? Are we trying to wipe off small business in favours of big boys?
Are you in the toilet roll business?
You are pathetic if you think these are basic issues. In all honesty I think you are linked to the owner of Colemans. Your grammar is poor, your opinions are pathetic. With the sound of things you'd probably dine from a toilet seat. Had the business owner kept the shop in the condition and manner expected, as the previous owner Mrs Edge did so for many years, then quite simply, the owners would have nothing to '**** about', would they. That shop probably takes well less than 50% of what it did do under Mrs Edges ownership. Play by the rules and it works out the cheapest way when all said and done. As well as keeping customers coming through the doors.
Your grammar is poor... Pot. Kettle. Black.
[quote][p][bold]wsw69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Donkey Stone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maryla419[/bold] wrote: I am very surprise how easily people believe anything they read in news paper. As you can see these nine offences that have been mentioned are not a serious hygiene issues, e.g. finding food poisoning or pest in premises, how can this business be fined by £30000 pound for such basic issues? Are we trying to wipe off small business in favours of big boys?[/p][/quote]Are you in the toilet roll business?[/p][/quote]You are pathetic if you think these are basic issues. In all honesty I think you are linked to the owner of Colemans. Your grammar is poor, your opinions are pathetic. With the sound of things you'd probably dine from a toilet seat. Had the business owner kept the shop in the condition and manner expected, as the previous owner Mrs Edge did so for many years, then quite simply, the owners would have nothing to '**** about', would they. That shop probably takes well less than 50% of what it did do under Mrs Edges ownership. Play by the rules and it works out the cheapest way when all said and done. As well as keeping customers coming through the doors.[/p][/quote]Your grammar is poor... Pot. Kettle. Black. WATOAOW

2:04pm Thu 12 Dec 13

thomas222 says...

WATOAOW wrote:
wsw69 wrote:
Donkey Stone wrote:
Maryla419 wrote: I am very surprise how easily people believe anything they read in news paper. As you can see these nine offences that have been mentioned are not a serious hygiene issues, e.g. finding food poisoning or pest in premises, how can this business be fined by £30000 pound for such basic issues? Are we trying to wipe off small business in favours of big boys?
Are you in the toilet roll business?
You are pathetic if you think these are basic issues. In all honesty I think you are linked to the owner of Colemans. Your grammar is poor, your opinions are pathetic. With the sound of things you'd probably dine from a toilet seat. Had the business owner kept the shop in the condition and manner expected, as the previous owner Mrs Edge did so for many years, then quite simply, the owners would have nothing to '**** about', would they. That shop probably takes well less than 50% of what it did do under Mrs Edges ownership. Play by the rules and it works out the cheapest way when all said and done. As well as keeping customers coming through the doors.
Your grammar is poor... Pot. Kettle. Black.
Do you mean the pots and kettles were also black and dirty?
[quote][p][bold]WATOAOW[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wsw69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Donkey Stone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maryla419[/bold] wrote: I am very surprise how easily people believe anything they read in news paper. As you can see these nine offences that have been mentioned are not a serious hygiene issues, e.g. finding food poisoning or pest in premises, how can this business be fined by £30000 pound for such basic issues? Are we trying to wipe off small business in favours of big boys?[/p][/quote]Are you in the toilet roll business?[/p][/quote]You are pathetic if you think these are basic issues. In all honesty I think you are linked to the owner of Colemans. Your grammar is poor, your opinions are pathetic. With the sound of things you'd probably dine from a toilet seat. Had the business owner kept the shop in the condition and manner expected, as the previous owner Mrs Edge did so for many years, then quite simply, the owners would have nothing to '**** about', would they. That shop probably takes well less than 50% of what it did do under Mrs Edges ownership. Play by the rules and it works out the cheapest way when all said and done. As well as keeping customers coming through the doors.[/p][/quote]Your grammar is poor... Pot. Kettle. Black.[/p][/quote]Do you mean the pots and kettles were also black and dirty? thomas222

1:56pm Fri 13 Dec 13

Allmylife says...

Never going back. Treat people with respect and common sense but don't abuse us. Absolutely disgusted to learn of this. What does the proprietor think is going to happen?
He doesn't deserve to run a business with such a reputation. I hope all his customers shop elsewhere.
Never going back. Treat people with respect and common sense but don't abuse us. Absolutely disgusted to learn of this. What does the proprietor think is going to happen? He doesn't deserve to run a business with such a reputation. I hope all his customers shop elsewhere. Allmylife

2:05pm Fri 13 Dec 13

WATOAOW says...

thomas222 wrote:
Maryla419 wrote:
thomas222 wrote:
Maryla419 wrote:
wsw69 wrote:
Donkey Stone wrote:
Maryla419 wrote: I am very surprise how easily people believe anything they read in news paper. As you can see these nine offences that have been mentioned are not a serious hygiene issues, e.g. finding food poisoning or pest in premises, how can this business be fined by £30000 pound for such basic issues? Are we trying to wipe off small business in favours of big boys?
Are you in the toilet roll business?
You are pathetic if you think these are basic issues. In all honesty I think you are linked to the owner of Colemans. Your grammar is poor, your opinions are pathetic. With the sound of things you'd probably dine from a toilet seat. Had the business owner kept the shop in the condition and manner expected, as the previous owner Mrs Edge did so for many years, then quite simply, the owners would have nothing to '**** about', would they. That shop probably takes well less than 50% of what it did do under Mrs Edges ownership. Play by the rules and it works out the cheapest way when all said and done. As well as keeping customers coming through the doors.
You are really Donkey, because you don’t know anything about food hygiene, get some education stupid .
Maryla your the fool crying the racist card as is the usual cry when Muslims are caught red handed doing unaceptable deeds like dirty hygene , pedophiles, doctors surgerys etc. The race card is finished get over it and stop using race and religion to get away with the muslim failings of being able to integrate with other peoples. Not just brits either as these issues are going on in the world where ever we take you people in for better lives.. Your pathetic wingers.
Just shut your **** because you talk from there
race card dont work resort to the usual insults...... you lot are finished the games up! hahahahahaha x
race card dont work resort to the usual insults...... you lot are finished the games up! hahahahahaha x
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Race card doesn't work? Resort to the usual insults... you lot are finished, the game's up!

Must try harder.
[quote][p][bold]thomas222[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maryla419[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomas222[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maryla419[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wsw69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Donkey Stone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maryla419[/bold] wrote: I am very surprise how easily people believe anything they read in news paper. As you can see these nine offences that have been mentioned are not a serious hygiene issues, e.g. finding food poisoning or pest in premises, how can this business be fined by £30000 pound for such basic issues? Are we trying to wipe off small business in favours of big boys?[/p][/quote]Are you in the toilet roll business?[/p][/quote]You are pathetic if you think these are basic issues. In all honesty I think you are linked to the owner of Colemans. Your grammar is poor, your opinions are pathetic. With the sound of things you'd probably dine from a toilet seat. Had the business owner kept the shop in the condition and manner expected, as the previous owner Mrs Edge did so for many years, then quite simply, the owners would have nothing to '**** about', would they. That shop probably takes well less than 50% of what it did do under Mrs Edges ownership. Play by the rules and it works out the cheapest way when all said and done. As well as keeping customers coming through the doors.[/p][/quote]You are really Donkey, because you don’t know anything about food hygiene, get some education stupid .[/p][/quote]Maryla your the fool crying the racist card as is the usual cry when Muslims are caught red handed doing unaceptable deeds like dirty hygene , pedophiles, doctors surgerys etc. The race card is finished get over it and stop using race and religion to get away with the muslim failings of being able to integrate with other peoples. Not just brits either as these issues are going on in the world where ever we take you people in for better lives.. Your pathetic wingers.[/p][/quote]Just shut your **** because you talk from there[/p][/quote]race card dont work resort to the usual insults...... you lot are finished the games up! hahahahahaha x[/p][/quote]race card dont work resort to the usual insults...... you lot are finished the games up! hahahahahaha x ------------- Race card doesn't work? Resort to the usual insults... you lot are finished, the game's up! Must try harder. WATOAOW

6:01pm Fri 13 Dec 13

wsw69 says...

Allmylife wrote:
Never going back. Treat people with respect and common sense but don't abuse us. Absolutely disgusted to learn of this. What does the proprietor think is going to happen?
He doesn't deserve to run a business with such a reputation. I hope all his customers shop elsewhere.
The shop is almost dead - sadly. At the usual hours when the queue was through the door and around the corner, the queue is barely 2 people.

I feel sorry for the staff and the regular customers who had an excellent food establishment from which to buy from. That business is worth, at best, half a dozen eggs. And that is on a good day!
[quote][p][bold]Allmylife[/bold] wrote: Never going back. Treat people with respect and common sense but don't abuse us. Absolutely disgusted to learn of this. What does the proprietor think is going to happen? He doesn't deserve to run a business with such a reputation. I hope all his customers shop elsewhere.[/p][/quote]The shop is almost dead - sadly. At the usual hours when the queue was through the door and around the corner, the queue is barely 2 people. I feel sorry for the staff and the regular customers who had an excellent food establishment from which to buy from. That business is worth, at best, half a dozen eggs. And that is on a good day! wsw69

10:40pm Fri 13 Dec 13

Count de Monet says...

Fast Business Services Limited were fined £27,000 with a further £3,000 to be paid to Bolton Council. This company no longer runs the business in question.

Not one person posting above appears to have read the following :- ''The business is now operated by another company''.
Fast Business Services Limited were fined £27,000 with a further £3,000 to be paid to Bolton Council. This company no longer runs the business in question. Not one person posting above appears to have read the following :- ''The business is now operated by another company''. Count de Monet

12:41pm Sat 14 Dec 13

Jackael says...

Count de Monet wrote:
Fast Business Services Limited were fined £27,000 with a further £3,000 to be paid to Bolton Council. This company no longer runs the business in question.

Not one person posting above appears to have read the following :- ''The business is now operated by another company''.
Probably related though !
[quote][p][bold]Count de Monet[/bold] wrote: Fast Business Services Limited were fined £27,000 with a further £3,000 to be paid to Bolton Council. This company no longer runs the business in question. Not one person posting above appears to have read the following :- ''The business is now operated by another company''.[/p][/quote]Probably related though ! Jackael

11:42am Fri 27 Dec 13

GBRGBR says...

Once a thriving and excellent bakery reduced to a typical money grabbing "business". Coleman's was definitely in the top 3 bakers in Bolton - wonder how long it takes for the shop to be a take away ?
Once a thriving and excellent bakery reduced to a typical money grabbing "business". Coleman's was definitely in the top 3 bakers in Bolton - wonder how long it takes for the shop to be a take away ? GBRGBR

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