'Parking fines are not money-making scheme', says Bolton Council

The Bolton News: 'Parking fines are not money-making scheme', says Bolton Council 'Parking fines are not money-making scheme', says Bolton Council

BOLTON Council insists it does not use parking fines to make money after it was revealed the government is looking to reduce parking penalties across the country.

The Department for Transport, responding to a report by the Commons Transport Committee, is considering making changes to the ways councils deal with parking offences after it was claimed some use parking penalties as a money maker.

These could include abolishing minimum penalty parking charges, banning the use of CCTV cameras to enforce restrictions and implementing a nationwide five minute grace period before handing fines to drivers whose tickets have expired.

The Local Government Association calculated councils nationally made a surplus from on and off street parking of £411 million between 2011 and 2012.

Bolton Council made just over £800,000 from parking charges and penalty notices in 2012/13, and the authority is ranked 160 out of 353 local authorities for the surplus it makes — a fall from last year’s 116th place.

Councillors have said any surplus made will go back into the running of the highways department. Cllr Nick Peel said: “It is not a revenue raiser for us, the money left over goes for fixing things like pot holes and I think a lot of people will think that that is fair enough.”

He also confirmed that Bolton Council already operate the proposed five minute grace period for people with expired parking tickets, but disagreed with the idea of removing CCTV enforcement, describing it as a “useful deterrent”.

He added: “If someone is regularly parking outside a school and a warden turns up, they can just drive off, but if you have a CCTV car in place then hopefully people will avoid parking there in the first place.”

Bolton Council charges £70 for fixed penalty notices but drivers will be charged £35 if they pay the fine within 14 days.

Cllr David Chadwick, Bolton Council’s member for transport, said: “There has to be some form of deterrent and drivers need to know what the limitations are, if you don’t have one there will be mayhem.”

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7:22am Sun 12 Jan 14

longballs r us says...

lmao!
lmao! longballs r us
  • Score: 10

8:04am Sun 12 Jan 14

angus macoatup says...

to avoid parking fines you have two options 1 don't park illegally 2 become a councilor and park in disabled bays
to avoid parking fines you have two options 1 don't park illegally 2 become a councilor and park in disabled bays angus macoatup
  • Score: 31

8:38am Sun 12 Jan 14

Bert_Anchovy says...

peel= Liar, Liar Liar, your must have run out of pants by now.
peel= Liar, Liar Liar, your must have run out of pants by now. Bert_Anchovy
  • Score: 9

9:09am Sun 12 Jan 14

George X says...

Back in the mid 90's when we still had a town center you could'nt move for parking attendants, the council must have made a fortune !!!
Back in the mid 90's when we still had a town center you could'nt move for parking attendants, the council must have made a fortune !!! George X
  • Score: 19

9:40am Sun 12 Jan 14

Comment777 says...

angus macoatup wrote:
to avoid parking fines you have two options 1 don't park illegally 2 become a councilor and park in disabled bays
or shop at the Trafford Centre where the parking is free...why is it so difficult for people to grasp this concept. FREE parking is available adjacent to a safe, warm and welcoming shopping centre, ten minutes drive away, eat, socialise even watch a film without the slightest chance of you being harassed, mugged or attacked...make that change stop putting yourself at risk shop at the Trafford centre....
[quote][p][bold]angus macoatup[/bold] wrote: to avoid parking fines you have two options 1 don't park illegally 2 become a councilor and park in disabled bays[/p][/quote]or shop at the Trafford Centre where the parking is free...why is it so difficult for people to grasp this concept. FREE parking is available adjacent to a safe, warm and welcoming shopping centre, ten minutes drive away, eat, socialise even watch a film without the slightest chance of you being harassed, mugged or attacked...make that change stop putting yourself at risk shop at the Trafford centre.... Comment777
  • Score: 11

10:14am Sun 12 Jan 14

atlas123 says...

Never had a parking ticket, I dont park illegally.... Simples.



What happened to that town where they removed all the parking wardens?
Never had a parking ticket, I dont park illegally.... Simples. What happened to that town where they removed all the parking wardens? atlas123
  • Score: 10

11:03am Sun 12 Jan 14

jetextreme says...

Nick Peel talking bubbles again...............
... FOI request says otherwise.
Nick Peel talking bubbles again............... ... FOI request says otherwise. jetextreme
  • Score: 3

11:09am Sun 12 Jan 14

Rawenergy says...

Penalty money goes to pothole repairs....are you sure cllr peel??
Penalty money goes to pothole repairs....are you sure cllr peel?? Rawenergy
  • Score: 15

11:38am Sun 12 Jan 14

suddy1 says...

Hahaha have a ride down Rawson Street if you dont have any loose fillings at the top you will have at the bottom,somebody has got very rich out of those carparking fines,the loser is Bolton town centre its priced itself out of busines.
Look at Bury town centre thats how to do it!!
Hahaha have a ride down Rawson Street if you dont have any loose fillings at the top you will have at the bottom,somebody has got very rich out of those carparking fines,the loser is Bolton town centre its priced itself out of busines. Look at Bury town centre thats how to do it!! suddy1
  • Score: 14

12:49pm Sun 12 Jan 14

Rememberscarborough says...

Parking fines are quite clearly profit making. What this council employee means to say is that the cash is used to supplement other loss making departments.

Personally, I'd be asking why these departments are making such losses and why we are employing management that have given up trying to control these losses.
Parking fines are quite clearly profit making. What this council employee means to say is that the cash is used to supplement other loss making departments. Personally, I'd be asking why these departments are making such losses and why we are employing management that have given up trying to control these losses. Rememberscarborough
  • Score: 0

1:07pm Sun 12 Jan 14

manpol says...

Cllr Peel, Am I right when I read this that you say it is not a money making scheme??
If that is the case can you provide feedback on how much it costs to run and what "profit" you have made??
You have got 800k back? and the town centre is dead, so I think it is fair to say you idiots in the town hall dont know what you are doing......

Obviously touched a nerve has nt it about using CCTv for what it is meant for, prevention and detection of crime....not issuing civil fines which if most people fought would actually cost you money....

just a thought.............
..
Cllr Peel, Am I right when I read this that you say it is not a money making scheme?? If that is the case can you provide feedback on how much it costs to run and what "profit" you have made?? You have got 800k back? and the town centre is dead, so I think it is fair to say you idiots in the town hall dont know what you are doing...... Obviously touched a nerve has nt it about using CCTv for what it is meant for, prevention and detection of crime....not issuing civil fines which if most people fought would actually cost you money.... just a thought............. .. manpol
  • Score: 4

2:30pm Sun 12 Jan 14

pecky2k says...

Bolton Council should make parking free to shoppers, say 2-3 hours time limits to encourage shoppers into town, and make long term empty shops available at a cheaper rate to entice business back. Bolton has been in decline for a long while and charging for parking to view empty shops isn't going to revive the town!
Bolton Council should make parking free to shoppers, say 2-3 hours time limits to encourage shoppers into town, and make long term empty shops available at a cheaper rate to entice business back. Bolton has been in decline for a long while and charging for parking to view empty shops isn't going to revive the town! pecky2k
  • Score: 1

2:52pm Sun 12 Jan 14

truth teller says...

atlas123 wrote:
Never had a parking ticket, I dont park illegally.... Simples.



What happened to that town where they removed all the parking wardens?
your not a traffic warden by any chance are you?
[quote][p][bold]atlas123[/bold] wrote: Never had a parking ticket, I dont park illegally.... Simples. What happened to that town where they removed all the parking wardens?[/p][/quote]your not a traffic warden by any chance are you? truth teller
  • Score: -3

3:40pm Sun 12 Jan 14

truth teller says...

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It was while Mrs Jackson was on the way to get the cash, at 5.15pm, when the accident occurred.

The AA took her car away and has since had Mrs Jackson’s car repaired. A council spokesman said: “Potholes such as these, which are on a busy main route, are repaired within 24 hours and as soon as it was reported to us, we went out and fixed it.

“This pothole was originally repaired on December 21, but unfortunately the repair didn’t last due to the adverse wet weather.”

The spokesman added: “This does not mean that repairs fail — most do not. However, the chance of failure is always going to be higher in less than perfect conditions.”

A survey published last year by the Department of Transport revealed that the borough’s “unclass-ified” roads, which are mainly residential, were the fourth worst out of 116 local authorities.

Pothole compensation paid out to drivers in Bolton last year came to around the same as the year before, despite a 50 per cent cut in highway funding.

To report potholes ring 01204 336600 or visit the Bolton Council website — bolton.gov.uk — and fill in an online form


Bolton council spending parking ticket money on repairing pothole REALLY
you make your own mind up
Floors & Joints Epoxy Resin Injection MIDLANDS area www.resinfix.co.uk/c ogri.htm . . It was while Mrs Jackson was on the way to get the cash, at 5.15pm, when the accident occurred. The AA took her car away and has since had Mrs Jackson’s car repaired. A council spokesman said: “Potholes such as these, which are on a busy main route, are repaired within 24 hours and as soon as it was reported to us, we went out and fixed it. “This pothole was originally repaired on December 21, but unfortunately the repair didn’t last due to the adverse wet weather.” The spokesman added: “This does not mean that repairs fail — most do not. However, the chance of failure is always going to be higher in less than perfect conditions.” A survey published last year by the Department of Transport revealed that the borough’s “unclass-ified” roads, which are mainly residential, were the fourth worst out of 116 local authorities. Pothole compensation paid out to drivers in Bolton last year came to around the same as the year before, despite a 50 per cent cut in highway funding. To report potholes ring 01204 336600 or visit the Bolton Council website — bolton.gov.uk — and fill in an online form Bolton council spending parking ticket money on repairing pothole REALLY you make your own mind up truth teller
  • Score: -2

9:31pm Sun 12 Jan 14

Oldhampal says...

What is the purpose of car parking charges ? Why do we need these charges? What happens to the money drivers pay in road tax, insurance, car purchase tax, tax on fuel?
What is the purpose of car parking charges ? Why do we need these charges? What happens to the money drivers pay in road tax, insurance, car purchase tax, tax on fuel? Oldhampal
  • Score: -1

11:20pm Sun 12 Jan 14

deehat says...

suddy1 wrote:
Hahaha have a ride down Rawson Street if you dont have any loose fillings at the top you will have at the bottom,somebody has got very rich out of those carparking fines,the loser is Bolton town centre its priced itself out of busines.
Look at Bury town centre thats how to do it!!
You are absolutely correct about the parking attitude of the council, it is 90% responsible for the downfall of Bolton, also spot on about Bury - Wigan is exactly the same, vibrant, busy clean and still has a traditional Market Hall (same as Bury) which brings in the shoppers, also none of the punitive parking charges - you can park on the Galleries car park slap bang in the centre 2 hours for £1.20! Regarding the camera cars - there is one parked nearly every weekday near the old Greenwood pub in Horwich to entrap customers who go into Greenhalgh's bakery and leave a wheel inside the bus stop lines. The council talk absolute B******s!
[quote][p][bold]suddy1[/bold] wrote: Hahaha have a ride down Rawson Street if you dont have any loose fillings at the top you will have at the bottom,somebody has got very rich out of those carparking fines,the loser is Bolton town centre its priced itself out of busines. Look at Bury town centre thats how to do it!![/p][/quote]You are absolutely correct about the parking attitude of the council, it is 90% responsible for the downfall of Bolton, also spot on about Bury - Wigan is exactly the same, vibrant, busy clean and still has a traditional Market Hall (same as Bury) which brings in the shoppers, also none of the punitive parking charges - you can park on the Galleries car park slap bang in the centre 2 hours for £1.20! Regarding the camera cars - there is one parked nearly every weekday near the old Greenwood pub in Horwich to entrap customers who go into Greenhalgh's bakery and leave a wheel inside the bus stop lines. The council talk absolute B******s! deehat
  • Score: 5

3:03am Mon 13 Jan 14

wsw69 says...

First, get rid of that incompetent serial Bull 5 h 1 i t t e r Nick Peel.

Bolton Council are the ONLY thing responsible for the demise of this once great town centre. No matter what load of guff Cliff 'The Stiff' Morris and the rest of the imbeciles in the 'Clown Hall' spiel this town is as dead as my grandmother.

Parking fines are easy money, pots of money. If parking fines are not a cash cow then Nick Peel and the other gang of clueless buffoons won't mind if they are reduced, will they?

If parking fines worked we would see a natural decline in parking offences. Obviously we aren't seeing a decline, the council know that and obviously love more tickets being thrown around bringing in more cash from the big fat motoring cow.

These idiots like Cliff Morris, Nick Peel & Co, think that Joe and Joan Public are thick.
First, get rid of that incompetent serial Bull 5 h 1 i t t e r Nick Peel. Bolton Council are the ONLY thing responsible for the demise of this once great town centre. No matter what load of guff Cliff 'The Stiff' Morris and the rest of the imbeciles in the 'Clown Hall' spiel this town is as dead as my grandmother. Parking fines are easy money, pots of money. If parking fines are not a cash cow then Nick Peel and the other gang of clueless buffoons won't mind if they are reduced, will they? If parking fines worked we would see a natural decline in parking offences. Obviously we aren't seeing a decline, the council know that and obviously love more tickets being thrown around bringing in more cash from the big fat motoring cow. These idiots like Cliff Morris, Nick Peel & Co, think that Joe and Joan Public are thick. wsw69
  • Score: 7

8:30am Mon 13 Jan 14

Jim271 says...

Why does the CCTV car always target the only cash machine on Halliwell Road every Monday and Friday Morning then?

Is it because that's when people are likely to be visiting the machine and therefore parking up?

You never see it near the Mosque on Friday afternoon where the cars are blocking the pavements because of Councillor Zahman.
Why does the CCTV car always target the only cash machine on Halliwell Road every Monday and Friday Morning then? Is it because that's when people are likely to be visiting the machine and therefore parking up? You never see it near the Mosque on Friday afternoon where the cars are blocking the pavements because of Councillor Zahman. Jim271
  • Score: 11

12:24pm Mon 13 Jan 14

barry g says...

I'd love to have Nick Peel's number.
I had to go into Bolton Town Centre on news years day, as you all know there is no public transport on that day. I read the machine (sort of) Sundays parking is free of charge, half of the multi storey car parks were closed.
I returned to my vehicle which I had parked in a parking bay and there it was to my surprise a parking ticket. that traffic warden must have been on a fortune working new yrs day. At least they are making good of our money.
I'd love to have Nick Peel's number. I had to go into Bolton Town Centre on news years day, as you all know there is no public transport on that day. I read the machine (sort of) Sundays parking is free of charge, half of the multi storey car parks were closed. I returned to my vehicle which I had parked in a parking bay and there it was to my surprise a parking ticket. that traffic warden must have been on a fortune working new yrs day. At least they are making good of our money. barry g
  • Score: 0

5:00pm Mon 13 Jan 14

MarkAllRead says...

atlas123 wrote:
Never had a parking ticket, I dont park illegally.... Simples.



What happened to that town where they removed all the parking wardens?
People aren't parking illegally, they're parking at parking meters and then not making it back in time. People thinking they'll be an hour or so and then something unexpected happening while shopping which delays them. This could be anything, not always their fault.
[quote][p][bold]atlas123[/bold] wrote: Never had a parking ticket, I dont park illegally.... Simples. What happened to that town where they removed all the parking wardens?[/p][/quote]People aren't parking illegally, they're parking at parking meters and then not making it back in time. People thinking they'll be an hour or so and then something unexpected happening while shopping which delays them. This could be anything, not always their fault. MarkAllRead
  • Score: 1

9:22pm Mon 13 Jan 14

Just Thought says...

Who are the Council trying to kid that this Parking scam is not a money making racket.

I have not been in to Bolton Town Centre for over than 12 Months other than once to take my car for a service.

I have never had a Parking Ticket in Bolton either but with the state of the s...hole who would want to go there anyway.
Who are the Council trying to kid that this Parking scam is not a money making racket. I have not been in to Bolton Town Centre for over than 12 Months other than once to take my car for a service. I have never had a Parking Ticket in Bolton either but with the state of the s...hole who would want to go there anyway. Just Thought
  • Score: 1

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