£4.5 million Bolton Market revamp 'cannot fail', say town hall bosses

£4.5 million Bolton Market revamp 'cannot fail', say town hall bosses

Cllr John Byrne on the balcony overlooking the market

Duncan Merriman of DJ Joinery works on the redevelopment

First published in News The Bolton News: Photograph of the Author by , reporter

THE much-anticipated £4.5 million relaunch of Bolton Market “cannot fail” according to council chiefs.

The new non-food indoor hall will open on January 21, ahead of a formal opening on Valentine’s Day weekend which the council will promote as a “Fall in Love with Bolton” campaign.

New stallholders will include a real ale and cider pub, a coffee grinder and an exotic plant business.

Malcolm Veigas, assistant director for environmental services, said: “With the research and consultation we have done, I don’t think we can fail with this one.

“There is a real sense of excitement among traders and we think the new businesses will boost our appeal. They have been really patient outside for the last year and hopefully they will get their rewards now.” The redevelopment has involved replacing the roof on the eastern hall, which houses the non-food section.

Additional indoor stalls have been installed as well as a seating area, while the roofs of the fish market and the hall containing the fruit and veg stalls have been refurbished. Extra parking spaces have been freed up.

More visits from coach trips is another council aim, with new parking areas tearmarked, as well as additional taxi bays. Cllr John Byrne, cabinet member for neighbourhood and community services, said: “This all looks fantastic and everyone involved has worked very hard to make all this happen.” Willmott Dixon carried out the redevelopment.

The outdoor market will move to New Street to be closer to the transport interchange.

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12:54pm Sat 18 Jan 14

thomas222 says...

Lets hope it is Bolton Council are due to get ONE scheme right sooner or later.
Lets hope it is Bolton Council are due to get ONE scheme right sooner or later. thomas222
  • Score: 20

1:18pm Sat 18 Jan 14

chris25 says...

just what we need in bolton an exotic plant business
just what we need in bolton an exotic plant business chris25
  • Score: 13

2:34pm Sat 18 Jan 14

BWFC71 says...

So basically they sell off the old Market Hall against the wishes of the majority of their voters!

Bolton, as a premium town centre completely collapses into a dire s**t hole!

Council then turn the outdoor market (in the inside bit) into a NEW Market Hall and move the "Outdoor" market to be closer to the new Bus station!!

Thus the council, past and current, have WASTED money in their folly in originally selling off the old indoor market hall as they have had to spend money in creating a new one and moving the outdoor!!!

Fingers crossed it does work out but I just get the feeling its a case of famous last words!
So basically they sell off the old Market Hall against the wishes of the majority of their voters! Bolton, as a premium town centre completely collapses into a dire s**t hole! Council then turn the outdoor market (in the inside bit) into a NEW Market Hall and move the "Outdoor" market to be closer to the new Bus station!! Thus the council, past and current, have WASTED money in their folly in originally selling off the old indoor market hall as they have had to spend money in creating a new one and moving the outdoor!!! Fingers crossed it does work out but I just get the feeling its a case of famous last words! BWFC71
  • Score: 16

5:36pm Sat 18 Jan 14

wsw69 says...

BWFC71 wrote:
So basically they sell off the old Market Hall against the wishes of the majority of their voters!

Bolton, as a premium town centre completely collapses into a dire s**t hole!

Council then turn the outdoor market (in the inside bit) into a NEW Market Hall and move the "Outdoor" market to be closer to the new Bus station!!

Thus the council, past and current, have WASTED money in their folly in originally selling off the old indoor market hall as they have had to spend money in creating a new one and moving the outdoor!!!

Fingers crossed it does work out but I just get the feeling its a case of famous last words!
Well said, and I'm of the same opinion, fingers crossed
[quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: So basically they sell off the old Market Hall against the wishes of the majority of their voters! Bolton, as a premium town centre completely collapses into a dire s**t hole! Council then turn the outdoor market (in the inside bit) into a NEW Market Hall and move the "Outdoor" market to be closer to the new Bus station!! Thus the council, past and current, have WASTED money in their folly in originally selling off the old indoor market hall as they have had to spend money in creating a new one and moving the outdoor!!! Fingers crossed it does work out but I just get the feeling its a case of famous last words![/p][/quote]Well said, and I'm of the same opinion, fingers crossed wsw69
  • Score: 13

6:40pm Sat 18 Jan 14

ninjasinpyjamas says...

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LMAO@MEOFLITTLEFAITH .COM ninjasinpyjamas
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8:21pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Sickandtiredoffit says...

The Odeon was next door you could have had a Cinema with a market hall Oh that's just been passed for the other **** up the indoor er er empty hall never mind you can still bring coach parties in to oops moved the bus station away from it never mind at least the pound shops and gamblers and charity shops wont have any Competition who knows they might even have some money left over to build another Gateway leading out of town.

planning now Supera Moras huh
The Odeon was next door you could have had a Cinema with a market hall Oh that's just been passed for the other **** up the indoor er er empty hall never mind you can still bring coach parties in to oops moved the bus station away from it never mind at least the pound shops and gamblers and charity shops wont have any Competition who knows they might even have some money left over to build another Gateway leading out of town. planning now Supera Moras huh Sickandtiredoffit
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10:06am Sun 19 Jan 14

Valiant One says...

It is fabulous to see investment in our town. The new market will be a fabulous addition and the bus rail interchange is such a sensible idea
There are bus stops all over Bolton that will allow people to alight near where they want to go. Yes even near the new cinema. I understand that neither the market hall nor the Odeon was owned by the Council. They were closed because neither was making enough money for their capitalist owners. Properties in Bolton are lying empty because people were not shopping there.No business making a profit closes down . If people of Bolton don't use their town's shops then closures will continue. Parking in Bolton is relatively
cheap for shoppers even free after 3 at places like Topp Way and the very
central Octagon. I love Bolton's heritage but know times are changing and things often have to go worse before they get better. We are now on the up ! Use your town and help fight its decline by avoiding the synthetic Trafford Centre or the sheds which are the retail parks.Use your town or lose it. It's your choice.
It is fabulous to see investment in our town. The new market will be a fabulous addition and the bus rail interchange is such a sensible idea There are bus stops all over Bolton that will allow people to alight near where they want to go. Yes even near the new cinema. I understand that neither the market hall nor the Odeon was owned by the Council. They were closed because neither was making enough money for their capitalist owners. Properties in Bolton are lying empty because people were not shopping there.No business making a profit closes down . If people of Bolton don't use their town's shops then closures will continue. Parking in Bolton is relatively cheap for shoppers even free after 3 at places like Topp Way and the very central Octagon. I love Bolton's heritage but know times are changing and things often have to go worse before they get better. We are now on the up ! Use your town and help fight its decline by avoiding the synthetic Trafford Centre or the sheds which are the retail parks.Use your town or lose it. It's your choice. Valiant One
  • Score: 5

12:57pm Sun 19 Jan 14

BWFC71 says...

The Market Hall WAS owned by the Council, they then sold it to the then owners of the Market Place who immediately announced plans to close it - without even giving it a chance to make them a profit! In fact no sooner had they "refurbished" the Market Hall into LEGOLAND units the owner went into administration!

It was the Lib-dems who signed away Bolton's lifeline, under the authority of a cross-party decision to sell the Market Hall - so no councillor is innocent of the fact!

There are NO bus stops between the current bus station and the junction with Newport Street - a big massive gap, and when the current bus station closes there will be even less bus stops - plus the majority of bus routes do NOT circle the town and as such it is not that easy to get on and off where one wants to - and that will be made even more difficult when the new bus station opens as it is on the wrong side of town!

I cannot see the "free" bus lasting much longer considering it has already been withdrawn in other Greater Manchester towns and the TfGM still have to make cuts to their budget (many more evening and Sunday services are already in the pipeline to be withdrawn to save costs)
The Market Hall WAS owned by the Council, they then sold it to the then owners of the Market Place who immediately announced plans to close it - without even giving it a chance to make them a profit! In fact no sooner had they "refurbished" the Market Hall into LEGOLAND units the owner went into administration! It was the Lib-dems who signed away Bolton's lifeline, under the authority of a cross-party decision to sell the Market Hall - so no councillor is innocent of the fact! There are NO bus stops between the current bus station and the junction with Newport Street - a big massive gap, and when the current bus station closes there will be even less bus stops - plus the majority of bus routes do NOT circle the town and as such it is not that easy to get on and off where one wants to - and that will be made even more difficult when the new bus station opens as it is on the wrong side of town! I cannot see the "free" bus lasting much longer considering it has already been withdrawn in other Greater Manchester towns and the TfGM still have to make cuts to their budget (many more evening and Sunday services are already in the pipeline to be withdrawn to save costs) BWFC71
  • Score: 5

4:58pm Sun 19 Jan 14

BWFC71 says...

One other thing, Valiant, the new bus station is just that - we are NOT getting a new train station. The current concourse, platforms etc are staying - the only addition will be a bridge linking the current train station to the new bus station thus NOT making it an Interchange. Bolton already has an interchange (which 5 stops) - as there is a bus station already attached to the current train station.

Therefore Bolton is getting a new SMALLER bus station and not a new interchange!!!
One other thing, Valiant, the new bus station is just that - we are NOT getting a new train station. The current concourse, platforms etc are staying - the only addition will be a bridge linking the current train station to the new bus station thus NOT making it an Interchange. Bolton already has an interchange (which 5 stops) - as there is a bus station already attached to the current train station. Therefore Bolton is getting a new SMALLER bus station and not a new interchange!!! BWFC71
  • Score: 1

5:34pm Sun 19 Jan 14

Valiant One says...

Isn't most of Moor Lane bua station under-used anyway ? I can't see bus travel expanding anyway. Not as long as our buses remain de regulated
Station is goingg to have new platform 5 which will cater as an addition to platform 4 for those travelling northbound
Isn't most of Moor Lane bua station under-used anyway ? I can't see bus travel expanding anyway. Not as long as our buses remain de regulated Station is goingg to have new platform 5 which will cater as an addition to platform 4 for those travelling northbound Valiant One
  • Score: -1

6:07pm Sun 19 Jan 14

BWFC71 says...

Valiant One wrote:
Isn't most of Moor Lane bua station under-used anyway ? I can't see bus travel expanding anyway. Not as long as our buses remain de regulated
Station is goingg to have new platform 5 which will cater as an addition to platform 4 for those travelling northbound
It was I that advised of what Network Rail was doing with platform 5 as they are closing, permanently, the customer car park at the station with no other car park to replace it!

Bus station isn't under-used - in fact by some, I know at TfGM, it is at more than capacity - but the Interchange is overwhelmingly underused!!!!

Evening and Sunday services are going to be hit badly shortly due to TfGM having to take drastic cuts to save money but the competitive daytime services (which are not funded by the TfGM) are thriving with new services starting soon, such as new Route 515 and 515X, and some routes expended already such as Route which has gone from hourly to every 15 minutes!
[quote][p][bold]Valiant One[/bold] wrote: Isn't most of Moor Lane bua station under-used anyway ? I can't see bus travel expanding anyway. Not as long as our buses remain de regulated Station is goingg to have new platform 5 which will cater as an addition to platform 4 for those travelling northbound[/p][/quote]It was I that advised of what Network Rail was doing with platform 5 as they are closing, permanently, the customer car park at the station with no other car park to replace it! Bus station isn't under-used - in fact by some, I know at TfGM, it is at more than capacity - but the Interchange is overwhelmingly underused!!!! Evening and Sunday services are going to be hit badly shortly due to TfGM having to take drastic cuts to save money but the competitive daytime services (which are not funded by the TfGM) are thriving with new services starting soon, such as new Route 515 and 515X, and some routes expended already such as Route which has gone from hourly to every 15 minutes! BWFC71
  • Score: 0

10:00am Mon 20 Jan 14

Valiant One says...

When Moor Lane is closed down the new interchange will have to be used as there won't be an alternative. The buses will go in to chevron shaped parking stops so taking up less space.
I didn't think there had ever been designated parking at the station. Thought cars just took their chances. Agree multi storey would be good idea but couldn't be free as so one would have to recoup the money for building it.
That would lead to a new discussion entirely !
When Moor Lane is closed down the new interchange will have to be used as there won't be an alternative. The buses will go in to chevron shaped parking stops so taking up less space. I didn't think there had ever been designated parking at the station. Thought cars just took their chances. Agree multi storey would be good idea but couldn't be free as so one would have to recoup the money for building it. That would lead to a new discussion entirely ! Valiant One
  • Score: 1

4:45pm Mon 20 Jan 14

Coleygiz says...

Too late for me. I'm used to shopping in Bury and I love it so no reason for me to change
Too late for me. I'm used to shopping in Bury and I love it so no reason for me to change Coleygiz
  • Score: 0

8:03pm Mon 20 Jan 14

BWFC71 says...

Valiant One wrote:
When Moor Lane is closed down the new interchange will have to be used as there won't be an alternative. The buses will go in to chevron shaped parking stops so taking up less space.
I didn't think there had ever been designated parking at the station. Thought cars just took their chances. Agree multi storey would be good idea but couldn't be free as so one would have to recoup the money for building it.
That would lead to a new discussion entirely !
When I mentioned the overwhelmingly underused Bolton Interchange I mean the current Bolton Interchange which many many Boltonians seems to forget we already have (including TfGM and the BN)!!! Which is situated outside the main concourse of the Rail Station (black-cab taxi rank inbetween the station concourse and the bus shelters)

The New Bus station is going to have less "bays" but servicing the same, if not more buses and yet the TfGM keep going on about it will serve at at least 33% more buses than the current buss station - how? Is it a TARDIS in disguise? Less bays means lays bays and not more scope for improvement - bus less layover space for vehicles. Lets not forget that the various bus companies have to pay to use the TfGM bus stations - so lays bays, will mean more backlogs which will deter the bus companies from using the bus station - its already starting to happen in Oldham and Rochdale where the bus station are very similar and already happened in Manchester with Shudehill as bus companies decide not to use them!!!

Yep the designated car park is currently at the rear of Platform 4 (soon to be the new Platform 5) - and Northern Rail (which leases the station from Network Rail) had planned to completely redo and extend the car park until Network Rail decided to re-open the 5th platform and need the space!!

A new multi-story could be free to season ticket holders or other proof that the rail station is the destination - can be easily done.
[quote][p][bold]Valiant One[/bold] wrote: When Moor Lane is closed down the new interchange will have to be used as there won't be an alternative. The buses will go in to chevron shaped parking stops so taking up less space. I didn't think there had ever been designated parking at the station. Thought cars just took their chances. Agree multi storey would be good idea but couldn't be free as so one would have to recoup the money for building it. That would lead to a new discussion entirely ![/p][/quote]When I mentioned the overwhelmingly underused Bolton Interchange I mean the current Bolton Interchange which many many Boltonians seems to forget we already have (including TfGM and the BN)!!! Which is situated outside the main concourse of the Rail Station (black-cab taxi rank inbetween the station concourse and the bus shelters) The New Bus station is going to have less "bays" but servicing the same, if not more buses and yet the TfGM keep going on about it will serve at at least 33% more buses than the current buss station - how? Is it a TARDIS in disguise? Less bays means lays bays and not more scope for improvement - bus less layover space for vehicles. Lets not forget that the various bus companies have to pay to use the TfGM bus stations - so lays bays, will mean more backlogs which will deter the bus companies from using the bus station - its already starting to happen in Oldham and Rochdale where the bus station are very similar and already happened in Manchester with Shudehill as bus companies decide not to use them!!! Yep the designated car park is currently at the rear of Platform 4 (soon to be the new Platform 5) - and Northern Rail (which leases the station from Network Rail) had planned to completely redo and extend the car park until Network Rail decided to re-open the 5th platform and need the space!! A new multi-story could be free to season ticket holders or other proof that the rail station is the destination - can be easily done. BWFC71
  • Score: -1

9:44am Tue 21 Jan 14

Malcolm Tucker says...

To get back to the story:

Good luck with the traders and all involved with this. Bolton has ONE market and one market only, like almost very other town. An award winning one at that. Why we ever thought we could sustain 2 separate markets a good distance apart is beyond me especially with the modern day competition from discount supermarkets etc.

One last thing - Moorgarth, the new owners of the Market Place, please change the name, or you will forever cause confusion to some of our less aware townsfolk. Just call it the Place! (I'm bagging that if it happens!)
To get back to the story: Good luck with the traders and all involved with this. Bolton has ONE market and one market only, like almost very other town. An award winning one at that. Why we ever thought we could sustain 2 separate markets a good distance apart is beyond me especially with the modern day competition from discount supermarkets etc. One last thing - Moorgarth, the new owners of the Market Place, please change the name, or you will forever cause confusion to some of our less aware townsfolk. Just call it the Place! (I'm bagging that if it happens!) Malcolm Tucker
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