Too many speed limit signs in Heaton street, say residents

Too many speed limit signs in Heaton street, say residents

All the road signs at the junction in Marsh Fold Lane, Heaton

Resident Bill Appleyard at the junction in Marsh Fold Lane, Heaton

One of the signs in Marsh Fold Lane, Heaton

First published in News The Bolton News: Photograph of the Author by , reporter

COULD this road be a sign of the times? Or is there a limit to the number of speed restrictions there should be at one junction?

Marsh Fold Lane, in Heaton, now has at least five speed limit signs within yards of each other — including one 30 mph sign leading into a back street.

The arrangement has baffled motorists and residents alike.

Bill Appleyard, aged 70, said: “To be fair there has not been one speeding offence committed since the 30 mph sign was put up on this 38 metre long back street.

“Congratulations to whoever sanctioned this — it is madness.

“To have so many in such a small area must be quite confusing for drivers who could be distracted.”

Bolton Council said the decision about putting up the signs rests with the Department for Transport.

A spokesman said: “We have no flexibility or discretion on how and where these signs are placed.

“While we agree that this signage looks excessive, we have to comply with national government regulations.”

Mr Appleyard, who lives in nearby Lincoln Road, also queried the cost of the signs.

He added: “When you think of all the examples in back streets across Bolton, you must be talking about a small fortune and it probably takes a couple of people to put the signs up too.

“I just think it is absolute madness when you see things like Animal World being shut. It doesn’t make sense to me.”

The council said the signs in Marsh Fold Lane were bought by a developer with no cost to the council taxpayer.

Alwynne Cartmell, a campaigner for the Twenty’s Plenty movement, which aims to get a 20mph speed limit for Bolton’s residential and urban streets, said: “The signs are key to changing drivers habits and making sure everyone slows down — and I really think they do work.

“I think it would cost a lot more to the taxpayer if someone was knocked over by a speeding car in terms of hospital treatment.”

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11:25am Mon 20 Jan 14

Iluminati says...

One need to have a real super brain to gather and to digest all those traffic signs, which are displayed around Heaton Street. One has to keep in mind that the time to digest the signs and convert them into brain directives, is extremely short and almost impossible to execute. Elderly drivers must surely be a a loss!!
One need to have a real super brain to gather and to digest all those traffic signs, which are displayed around Heaton Street. One has to keep in mind that the time to digest the signs and convert them into brain directives, is extremely short and almost impossible to execute. Elderly drivers must surely be a a loss!! Iluminati
  • Score: -3

12:07pm Mon 20 Jan 14

MarkAllRead says...

They should replace them all with speed cameras.
They should replace them all with speed cameras. MarkAllRead
  • Score: 0

12:38pm Mon 20 Jan 14

danssoncabaret says...

I'm surprised the Clowncil haven't built high speed bumps.
I'm surprised the Clowncil haven't built high speed bumps. danssoncabaret
  • Score: -1

1:34pm Mon 20 Jan 14

Rememberscarborough says...

Can those that sanctioned such a huge waste of money (in these times of austerity) please own up? After all we're the ones who have to pay for these people who quite clearly aren't competent otherwise they would have a system in place that would prevent such a daft scenario.
Can those that sanctioned such a huge waste of money (in these times of austerity) please own up? After all we're the ones who have to pay for these people who quite clearly aren't competent otherwise they would have a system in place that would prevent such a daft scenario. Rememberscarborough
  • Score: -1

1:36pm Mon 20 Jan 14

Brumas says...

In reality, has a nation we should be getting away from pointless speed signs and looking to the future. A future were driving past one such road sign automatically governs the speed of the vehicles, by a radio signal, to a governor that should be fitted to all cars of the future. Take away the chance of anyone going above any given speed limit.
Currently, it is being considered reducing the speed limit on certain motorways at certain times, how? Who is going to enforce it? When we all know people will only get fined after a road traffic incident, when it can be proved that someone was speeding. After perhaps a life has been lost, needlessly, these signs which cost hundreds are waste of money because they are ignored by many, just like the signs about drinking on the street.
Someone grasp the nettle, make car manufacturers fit this technology, which in turn would do away with other stupid damaging traffic calming measures like sleeping policemen etc.
In reality, has a nation we should be getting away from pointless speed signs and looking to the future. A future were driving past one such road sign automatically governs the speed of the vehicles, by a radio signal, to a governor that should be fitted to all cars of the future. Take away the chance of anyone going above any given speed limit. Currently, it is being considered reducing the speed limit on certain motorways at certain times, how? Who is going to enforce it? When we all know people will only get fined after a road traffic incident, when it can be proved that someone was speeding. After perhaps a life has been lost, needlessly, these signs which cost hundreds are waste of money because they are ignored by many, just like the signs about drinking on the street. Someone grasp the nettle, make car manufacturers fit this technology, which in turn would do away with other stupid damaging traffic calming measures like sleeping policemen etc. Brumas
  • Score: -5

1:53pm Mon 20 Jan 14

thealexweb says...

Labour recently imposed a 20mph speed restriction on the entire of Ladybridge. It will do little for safety as the one's who will comply are the ones who drive safely already. A real solution is needed to be people that treat Armadale Road like s race course and do 50-70.
Labour recently imposed a 20mph speed restriction on the entire of Ladybridge. It will do little for safety as the one's who will comply are the ones who drive safely already. A real solution is needed to be people that treat Armadale Road like s race course and do 50-70. thealexweb
  • Score: 3

5:18pm Mon 20 Jan 14

MarkAllRead says...

Brumas wrote:
In reality, has a nation we should be getting away from pointless speed signs and looking to the future. A future were driving past one such road sign automatically governs the speed of the vehicles, by a radio signal, to a governor that should be fitted to all cars of the future. Take away the chance of anyone going above any given speed limit.
Currently, it is being considered reducing the speed limit on certain motorways at certain times, how? Who is going to enforce it? When we all know people will only get fined after a road traffic incident, when it can be proved that someone was speeding. After perhaps a life has been lost, needlessly, these signs which cost hundreds are waste of money because they are ignored by many, just like the signs about drinking on the street.
Someone grasp the nettle, make car manufacturers fit this technology, which in turn would do away with other stupid damaging traffic calming measures like sleeping policemen etc.
The problem with automatic top-speed limiters is that it leads people to just keeping their foot to the floor and doing the maximum that is legally allowed for the area. Depending on the conditions, this can often be way above what it sensible or appropriate.
[quote][p][bold]Brumas[/bold] wrote: In reality, has a nation we should be getting away from pointless speed signs and looking to the future. A future were driving past one such road sign automatically governs the speed of the vehicles, by a radio signal, to a governor that should be fitted to all cars of the future. Take away the chance of anyone going above any given speed limit. Currently, it is being considered reducing the speed limit on certain motorways at certain times, how? Who is going to enforce it? When we all know people will only get fined after a road traffic incident, when it can be proved that someone was speeding. After perhaps a life has been lost, needlessly, these signs which cost hundreds are waste of money because they are ignored by many, just like the signs about drinking on the street. Someone grasp the nettle, make car manufacturers fit this technology, which in turn would do away with other stupid damaging traffic calming measures like sleeping policemen etc.[/p][/quote]The problem with automatic top-speed limiters is that it leads people to just keeping their foot to the floor and doing the maximum that is legally allowed for the area. Depending on the conditions, this can often be way above what it sensible or appropriate. MarkAllRead
  • Score: 2

5:42pm Mon 20 Jan 14

Brumas says...

That may well be the case MarkAllRead, but it would stop anyone exceeding the limit for the area and if they met other traffic they would have to drive appropriately. As not everyone would drive like you say.
That may well be the case MarkAllRead, but it would stop anyone exceeding the limit for the area and if they met other traffic they would have to drive appropriately. As not everyone would drive like you say. Brumas
  • Score: 1

7:51pm Mon 20 Jan 14

Dusty87 says...

Maybe they might want to move one of these signs to the crossroads on musgrave road / victory street after the crash there on Friday night.. A woman speeding at about 40 mile an hour crashed into another car. I agree there are too many speed signs there the speed bumps work though.
Maybe they might want to move one of these signs to the crossroads on musgrave road / victory street after the crash there on Friday night.. A woman speeding at about 40 mile an hour crashed into another car. I agree there are too many speed signs there the speed bumps work though. Dusty87
  • Score: 0

2:43am Sat 25 Jan 14

Count de Monet says...

thealexweb wrote:
Labour recently imposed a 20mph speed restriction on the entire of Ladybridge. It will do little for safety as the one's who will comply are the ones who drive safely already. A real solution is needed to be people that treat Armadale Road like s race course and do 50-70.
50 - 70 mph on Armadale Road? I used to live on Armadale Road and it's physically impossible to do anywhere near 70 mph on that road.
[quote][p][bold]thealexweb[/bold] wrote: Labour recently imposed a 20mph speed restriction on the entire of Ladybridge. It will do little for safety as the one's who will comply are the ones who drive safely already. A real solution is needed to be people that treat Armadale Road like s race course and do 50-70.[/p][/quote]50 - 70 mph on Armadale Road? I used to live on Armadale Road and it's physically impossible to do anywhere near 70 mph on that road. Count de Monet
  • Score: 0

7:52am Sun 26 Jan 14

Valiant One says...

Thought it was the residents of Ladybridge and their Councillors (not Labour) who asked the Council for this speed limit to be introduced. The Council listened, agreed and provided the cash to implement the scheme
Thought it was the residents of Ladybridge and their Councillors (not Labour) who asked the Council for this speed limit to be introduced. The Council listened, agreed and provided the cash to implement the scheme Valiant One
  • Score: 1

1:28pm Sun 26 Jan 14

Donkey Stone says...

Valiant One wrote:
Thought it was the residents of Ladybridge and their Councillors (not Labour) who asked the Council for this speed limit to be introduced. The Council listened, agreed and provided the cash to implement the scheme
Cliff Morris lives on Armadale rd.
[quote][p][bold]Valiant One[/bold] wrote: Thought it was the residents of Ladybridge and their Councillors (not Labour) who asked the Council for this speed limit to be introduced. The Council listened, agreed and provided the cash to implement the scheme[/p][/quote]Cliff Morris lives on Armadale rd. Donkey Stone
  • Score: -1

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