New Bolton Market open for business

The Bolton News: Veteran trader Barry Archer Veteran trader Barry Archer

BOLTON Market’s new “lifestyle hall” is open for business after a £4.5 million revamp.

The indoor non-food market has been refurbished during the last 12 months.

Trade will partially begin in the new hall today with some of the stalls adding finishing touches and set to open over the coming weeks.

A celebration to mark the official reopening of Bolton Market following the refurbishment will take place on Valentine’s Day weekend on February 14 and 15.

Coined the “fall in love with Bolton weekend” by the council, all of the 40 stores in the hall — of which a third are entirely new to the market — will be ready to open at that time.

Bolton Council leader Cllr Cliff Morris said: “The market plays a vital role in the regeneration of Bolton.

“It is one of our main shopping destinations and I’m really pleased that work on the new hall, which will make our market even better, is nearing an end.

“We hope to attract new visitors as well as the traditional market regulars. When all the work is complete the redevelopment will be a fantastic addition to Bolton.”

Newcomers to the hall include Great Ale Year Round, a micropub venture, The Coffee Grinder, a coffee bean company and Plantation Flowers, a business selling unique tropical flowers.

Another addition is Ooh It’s Lovely, a craft stall opened by former domestic violence support worker Zee Cooper.

She said: “I’m very excited about moving in here. I’ve only experienced the market as a shopper but this is a huge improvement.

“It will be great to get a couple of weeks business in first before the launch so we’re fully prepared.”

One stall which will be trading tomorrow is Past and Present, run by Bolton Market’s longest-serving trader, Barry Archer, aged 69, for the last 48 years.

He said: “This is fantastic. The last year outside has been a real struggle but hopefully it will pick up now. My first-ever customer was a woman, now in her 80s, who still comes to the stall now.”

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9:38am Tue 21 Jan 14

oftbewildered2 says...

good luck everyone
good luck everyone oftbewildered2

10:30am Tue 21 Jan 14

Tim Burr says...

I hope the council don't think it ends here with brand new shiny stalls. It needs continuous investment in the form of marketing to attract out of town footfall but good luck to all the stallholders.
I hope the council don't think it ends here with brand new shiny stalls. It needs continuous investment in the form of marketing to attract out of town footfall but good luck to all the stallholders. Tim Burr

12:21pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Marzi30 says...

Just watch it die on it's arse when the bus station closes down, more short sighted planning from the Fat Controller and his chums
Just watch it die on it's arse when the bus station closes down, more short sighted planning from the Fat Controller and his chums Marzi30

12:44pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Beyond News Forum says...

Haaa haa - NOT impressed.
Haaa haa - NOT impressed. Beyond News Forum

1:16pm Tue 21 Jan 14

ruined heritage says...

Sadly when the bus station moves much of the footfall to the market will disappear, i can see this being another colossal waste of tax payers money
Sadly when the bus station moves much of the footfall to the market will disappear, i can see this being another colossal waste of tax payers money ruined heritage

1:23pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Tim Burr says...

ruined heritage wrote:
Sadly when the bus station moves much of the footfall to the market will disappear, i can see this being another colossal waste of tax payers money
Not sure about being a waste of money as only time will tell but share your concerns regarding the bus station. I wonder if the council have a strategy for this problem?
[quote][p][bold]ruined heritage[/bold] wrote: Sadly when the bus station moves much of the footfall to the market will disappear, i can see this being another colossal waste of tax payers money[/p][/quote]Not sure about being a waste of money as only time will tell but share your concerns regarding the bus station. I wonder if the council have a strategy for this problem? Tim Burr

1:28pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Phil from Smithills says...

I too feel the closure of Moor Lane Bus station will effect the open market, plus.

I understand the cost of the refurbishment will be passed on to the stall holders via increased rents, so they will have pass it on to the customers.

I hope it is a success, but time will tell.
I too feel the closure of Moor Lane Bus station will effect the open market, plus. I understand the cost of the refurbishment will be passed on to the stall holders via increased rents, so they will have pass it on to the customers. I hope it is a success, but time will tell. Phil from Smithills

1:55pm Tue 21 Jan 14

WATOAOW says...

Why should moving the bus station have an adverse effect? Admittedly, it won't be next door, but it's hardly a long way away. Plus, unless the buses are going to start ploughing straight through Victoria Square, there's a good chance a lot of them will still stop on Blackhorse Street.

Why not wait to see what happens instead of just making the usual predictions of doom and gloom?
Why should moving the bus station have an adverse effect? Admittedly, it won't be next door, but it's hardly a long way away. Plus, unless the buses are going to start ploughing straight through Victoria Square, there's a good chance a lot of them will still stop on Blackhorse Street. Why not wait to see what happens instead of just making the usual predictions of doom and gloom? WATOAOW

2:00pm Tue 21 Jan 14

WATOAOW says...

And good luck to all the stall holders. I'm especially looking forward to visiting Great Ale Year Round and The Coffee Grinder.
And good luck to all the stall holders. I'm especially looking forward to visiting Great Ale Year Round and The Coffee Grinder. WATOAOW

3:23pm Tue 21 Jan 14

steveG says...

WATOAOW wrote:
Why should moving the bus station have an adverse effect? Admittedly, it won't be next door, but it's hardly a long way away. Plus, unless the buses are going to start ploughing straight through Victoria Square, there's a good chance a lot of them will still stop on Blackhorse Street.

Why not wait to see what happens instead of just making the usual predictions of doom and gloom?
Waiting to see what happens . Isn't that what the Council usually does and the strategy that has culminated in the mess the town Centre is in today?

You aren't a councillor by any chance?.
[quote][p][bold]WATOAOW[/bold] wrote: Why should moving the bus station have an adverse effect? Admittedly, it won't be next door, but it's hardly a long way away. Plus, unless the buses are going to start ploughing straight through Victoria Square, there's a good chance a lot of them will still stop on Blackhorse Street. Why not wait to see what happens instead of just making the usual predictions of doom and gloom?[/p][/quote]Waiting to see what happens . Isn't that what the Council usually does and the strategy that has culminated in the mess the town Centre is in today? You aren't a councillor by any chance?. steveG

3:26pm Tue 21 Jan 14

wsw69 says...

WATOAOW wrote:
Why should moving the bus station have an adverse effect? Admittedly, it won't be next door, but it's hardly a long way away. Plus, unless the buses are going to start ploughing straight through Victoria Square, there's a good chance a lot of them will still stop on Blackhorse Street.

Why not wait to see what happens instead of just making the usual predictions of doom and gloom?
Same here. All the best to the established long serving traders and welcome to the new ones too. I am of the mindset that if something is worth traveling the extra mile for then people will do. That is already proven with punters buggering off to the ghastly Trafford Centre and over to Bury, which has to be said, blows the cotton socks off Bolton town centre by light years.
[quote][p][bold]WATOAOW[/bold] wrote: Why should moving the bus station have an adverse effect? Admittedly, it won't be next door, but it's hardly a long way away. Plus, unless the buses are going to start ploughing straight through Victoria Square, there's a good chance a lot of them will still stop on Blackhorse Street. Why not wait to see what happens instead of just making the usual predictions of doom and gloom?[/p][/quote]Same here. All the best to the established long serving traders and welcome to the new ones too. I am of the mindset that if something is worth traveling the extra mile for then people will do. That is already proven with punters buggering off to the ghastly Trafford Centre and over to Bury, which has to be said, blows the cotton socks off Bolton town centre by light years. wsw69

4:18pm Tue 21 Jan 14

The Running Man says...

steveG wrote:
WATOAOW wrote:
Why should moving the bus station have an adverse effect? Admittedly, it won't be next door, but it's hardly a long way away. Plus, unless the buses are going to start ploughing straight through Victoria Square, there's a good chance a lot of them will still stop on Blackhorse Street.

Why not wait to see what happens instead of just making the usual predictions of doom and gloom?
Waiting to see what happens . Isn't that what the Council usually does and the strategy that has culminated in the mess the town Centre is in today?

You aren't a councillor by any chance?.
Are you suggesting that it would be wise to take action before seeing what happens? If so maybe that would be a waste of time and money. I think we should go with the OP and wait and see what happens, even the usual merchants of doom might end up being pleasantly surprised!
[quote][p][bold]steveG[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WATOAOW[/bold] wrote: Why should moving the bus station have an adverse effect? Admittedly, it won't be next door, but it's hardly a long way away. Plus, unless the buses are going to start ploughing straight through Victoria Square, there's a good chance a lot of them will still stop on Blackhorse Street. Why not wait to see what happens instead of just making the usual predictions of doom and gloom?[/p][/quote]Waiting to see what happens . Isn't that what the Council usually does and the strategy that has culminated in the mess the town Centre is in today? You aren't a councillor by any chance?.[/p][/quote]Are you suggesting that it would be wise to take action before seeing what happens? If so maybe that would be a waste of time and money. I think we should go with the OP and wait and see what happens, even the usual merchants of doom might end up being pleasantly surprised! The Running Man

6:25pm Tue 21 Jan 14

The Wasp says...

Can I please just say that it is 'The Coffee Grind' and not 'The Coffee Grinder' as commented by Councillor Cliff Morris. Does gorgeous coffee by the way.
Can I please just say that it is 'The Coffee Grind' and not 'The Coffee Grinder' as commented by Councillor Cliff Morris. Does gorgeous coffee by the way. The Wasp

7:30pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Frotage says...

WTF is a 'lifestyle hall?'
WTF is a 'lifestyle hall?' Frotage

7:42pm Tue 21 Jan 14

BWFC71 says...

WATOAOW wrote:
Why should moving the bus station have an adverse effect? Admittedly, it won't be next door, but it's hardly a long way away. Plus, unless the buses are going to start ploughing straight through Victoria Square, there's a good chance a lot of them will still stop on Blackhorse Street.

Why not wait to see what happens instead of just making the usual predictions of doom and gloom?
A lot of them wont - especially Routes, 8, 22, 36, 37, 68, 510, 512, 513, 524, 536, 551, 553, 559, 561 and 562 as they will only terminate at thee new Bus Station and do/will not circle the town!
[quote][p][bold]WATOAOW[/bold] wrote: Why should moving the bus station have an adverse effect? Admittedly, it won't be next door, but it's hardly a long way away. Plus, unless the buses are going to start ploughing straight through Victoria Square, there's a good chance a lot of them will still stop on Blackhorse Street. Why not wait to see what happens instead of just making the usual predictions of doom and gloom?[/p][/quote]A lot of them wont - especially Routes, 8, 22, 36, 37, 68, 510, 512, 513, 524, 536, 551, 553, 559, 561 and 562 as they will only terminate at thee new Bus Station and do/will not circle the town! BWFC71

8:03pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Roadrunner1949 says...

BWFC71 wrote:
WATOAOW wrote:
Why should moving the bus station have an adverse effect? Admittedly, it won't be next door, but it's hardly a long way away. Plus, unless the buses are going to start ploughing straight through Victoria Square, there's a good chance a lot of them will still stop on Blackhorse Street.

Why not wait to see what happens instead of just making the usual predictions of doom and gloom?
A lot of them wont - especially Routes, 8, 22, 36, 37, 68, 510, 512, 513, 524, 536, 551, 553, 559, 561 and 562 as they will only terminate at thee new Bus Station and do/will not circle the town!
Maybe I have got it wrong, but the free town centre bus will be able to transfer the public from the Market to the new interchange.
[quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WATOAOW[/bold] wrote: Why should moving the bus station have an adverse effect? Admittedly, it won't be next door, but it's hardly a long way away. Plus, unless the buses are going to start ploughing straight through Victoria Square, there's a good chance a lot of them will still stop on Blackhorse Street. Why not wait to see what happens instead of just making the usual predictions of doom and gloom?[/p][/quote]A lot of them wont - especially Routes, 8, 22, 36, 37, 68, 510, 512, 513, 524, 536, 551, 553, 559, 561 and 562 as they will only terminate at thee new Bus Station and do/will not circle the town![/p][/quote]Maybe I have got it wrong, but the free town centre bus will be able to transfer the public from the Market to the new interchange. Roadrunner1949

8:20pm Tue 21 Jan 14

BWFC71 says...

Roadrunner1949 wrote:
BWFC71 wrote:
WATOAOW wrote:
Why should moving the bus station have an adverse effect? Admittedly, it won't be next door, but it's hardly a long way away. Plus, unless the buses are going to start ploughing straight through Victoria Square, there's a good chance a lot of them will still stop on Blackhorse Street.

Why not wait to see what happens instead of just making the usual predictions of doom and gloom?
A lot of them wont - especially Routes, 8, 22, 36, 37, 68, 510, 512, 513, 524, 536, 551, 553, 559, 561 and 562 as they will only terminate at thee new Bus Station and do/will not circle the town!
Maybe I have got it wrong, but the free town centre bus will be able to transfer the public from the Market to the new interchange.
But for how much longer - they have been withdrawn in Oldham and Stockport as the TfGM have to make cuts. They are already getting to withdraw the majority of subsidised evening and Sunday services (just like Lancashire County Council have/are doing) - so cannot see the Metroshuttle lasting longer than up to the end of this year!!
[quote][p][bold]Roadrunner1949[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WATOAOW[/bold] wrote: Why should moving the bus station have an adverse effect? Admittedly, it won't be next door, but it's hardly a long way away. Plus, unless the buses are going to start ploughing straight through Victoria Square, there's a good chance a lot of them will still stop on Blackhorse Street. Why not wait to see what happens instead of just making the usual predictions of doom and gloom?[/p][/quote]A lot of them wont - especially Routes, 8, 22, 36, 37, 68, 510, 512, 513, 524, 536, 551, 553, 559, 561 and 562 as they will only terminate at thee new Bus Station and do/will not circle the town![/p][/quote]Maybe I have got it wrong, but the free town centre bus will be able to transfer the public from the Market to the new interchange.[/p][/quote]But for how much longer - they have been withdrawn in Oldham and Stockport as the TfGM have to make cuts. They are already getting to withdraw the majority of subsidised evening and Sunday services (just like Lancashire County Council have/are doing) - so cannot see the Metroshuttle lasting longer than up to the end of this year!! BWFC71

8:22pm Tue 21 Jan 14

BWFC71 says...

Plus, have you ever caught the free bus - as it goes round in an anti-clockwise direction it will take approximately 20 minutes from the new bus station to the open market (it already takes between 12-15 minutes from Bath Street to the Bolton Interchange!)
Plus, have you ever caught the free bus - as it goes round in an anti-clockwise direction it will take approximately 20 minutes from the new bus station to the open market (it already takes between 12-15 minutes from Bath Street to the Bolton Interchange!) BWFC71

8:22pm Tue 21 Jan 14

patbees says...

Once again put downs. Lets celebrate something good instead of ripping it about for a change. If boltons so bad simple answer - move
Once again put downs. Lets celebrate something good instead of ripping it about for a change. If boltons so bad simple answer - move patbees

9:05pm Tue 21 Jan 14

boydell says...

Roadrunner1949 wrote:
BWFC71 wrote:
WATOAOW wrote:
Why should moving the bus station have an adverse effect? Admittedly, it won't be next door, but it's hardly a long way away. Plus, unless the buses are going to start ploughing straight through Victoria Square, there's a good chance a lot of them will still stop on Blackhorse Street.

Why not wait to see what happens instead of just making the usual predictions of doom and gloom?
A lot of them wont - especially Routes, 8, 22, 36, 37, 68, 510, 512, 513, 524, 536, 551, 553, 559, 561 and 562 as they will only terminate at thee new Bus Station and do/will not circle the town!
Maybe I have got it wrong, but the free town centre bus will be able to transfer the public from the Market to the new interchange.
Have you ever been on the free bus !!! It goes on a grand tour of the center of Bolton ,up and down nearly every street. It would take a half hour to get from the new bus station to the market ..... Far quicker to walk.
[quote][p][bold]Roadrunner1949[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WATOAOW[/bold] wrote: Why should moving the bus station have an adverse effect? Admittedly, it won't be next door, but it's hardly a long way away. Plus, unless the buses are going to start ploughing straight through Victoria Square, there's a good chance a lot of them will still stop on Blackhorse Street. Why not wait to see what happens instead of just making the usual predictions of doom and gloom?[/p][/quote]A lot of them wont - especially Routes, 8, 22, 36, 37, 68, 510, 512, 513, 524, 536, 551, 553, 559, 561 and 562 as they will only terminate at thee new Bus Station and do/will not circle the town![/p][/quote]Maybe I have got it wrong, but the free town centre bus will be able to transfer the public from the Market to the new interchange.[/p][/quote]Have you ever been on the free bus !!! It goes on a grand tour of the center of Bolton ,up and down nearly every street. It would take a half hour to get from the new bus station to the market ..... Far quicker to walk. boydell

9:26pm Tue 21 Jan 14

BWFC71 says...

Roadrunner1949 wrote:
BWFC71 wrote:
WATOAOW wrote:
Why should moving the bus station have an adverse effect? Admittedly, it won't be next door, but it's hardly a long way away. Plus, unless the buses are going to start ploughing straight through Victoria Square, there's a good chance a lot of them will still stop on Blackhorse Street.

Why not wait to see what happens instead of just making the usual predictions of doom and gloom?
A lot of them wont - especially Routes, 8, 22, 36, 37, 68, 510, 512, 513, 524, 536, 551, 553, 559, 561 and 562 as they will only terminate at thee new Bus Station and do/will not circle the town!
Maybe I have got it wrong, but the free town centre bus will be able to transfer the public from the Market to the new interchange.
PS it is not a new Interchange as we already have an Interchange which is not moving or being demolished - therefore the new build is only a bus station - in every sense of the word!
[quote][p][bold]Roadrunner1949[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WATOAOW[/bold] wrote: Why should moving the bus station have an adverse effect? Admittedly, it won't be next door, but it's hardly a long way away. Plus, unless the buses are going to start ploughing straight through Victoria Square, there's a good chance a lot of them will still stop on Blackhorse Street. Why not wait to see what happens instead of just making the usual predictions of doom and gloom?[/p][/quote]A lot of them wont - especially Routes, 8, 22, 36, 37, 68, 510, 512, 513, 524, 536, 551, 553, 559, 561 and 562 as they will only terminate at thee new Bus Station and do/will not circle the town![/p][/quote]Maybe I have got it wrong, but the free town centre bus will be able to transfer the public from the Market to the new interchange.[/p][/quote]PS it is not a new Interchange as we already have an Interchange which is not moving or being demolished - therefore the new build is only a bus station - in every sense of the word! BWFC71

2:03pm Wed 22 Jan 14

WATOAOW says...

BWFC71 wrote:
WATOAOW wrote: Why should moving the bus station have an adverse effect? Admittedly, it won't be next door, but it's hardly a long way away. Plus, unless the buses are going to start ploughing straight through Victoria Square, there's a good chance a lot of them will still stop on Blackhorse Street. Why not wait to see what happens instead of just making the usual predictions of doom and gloom?
A lot of them wont - especially Routes, 8, 22, 36, 37, 68, 510, 512, 513, 524, 536, 551, 553, 559, 561 and 562 as they will only terminate at thee new Bus Station and do/will not circle the town!
Have you got a link to the new routes. I didn't realise they'd been released?

Maybe some of those you mentioned will use the stop on Black Horse street that's across from Morrison's car park.
[quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WATOAOW[/bold] wrote: Why should moving the bus station have an adverse effect? Admittedly, it won't be next door, but it's hardly a long way away. Plus, unless the buses are going to start ploughing straight through Victoria Square, there's a good chance a lot of them will still stop on Blackhorse Street. Why not wait to see what happens instead of just making the usual predictions of doom and gloom?[/p][/quote]A lot of them wont - especially Routes, 8, 22, 36, 37, 68, 510, 512, 513, 524, 536, 551, 553, 559, 561 and 562 as they will only terminate at thee new Bus Station and do/will not circle the town![/p][/quote]Have you got a link to the new routes. I didn't realise they'd been released? Maybe some of those you mentioned will use the stop on Black Horse street that's across from Morrison's car park. WATOAOW

2:09pm Wed 22 Jan 14

WATOAOW says...

BWFC71 wrote:
Roadrunner1949 wrote:
BWFC71 wrote:
WATOAOW wrote: Why should moving the bus station have an adverse effect? Admittedly, it won't be next door, but it's hardly a long way away. Plus, unless the buses are going to start ploughing straight through Victoria Square, there's a good chance a lot of them will still stop on Blackhorse Street. Why not wait to see what happens instead of just making the usual predictions of doom and gloom?
A lot of them wont - especially Routes, 8, 22, 36, 37, 68, 510, 512, 513, 524, 536, 551, 553, 559, 561 and 562 as they will only terminate at thee new Bus Station and do/will not circle the town!
Maybe I have got it wrong, but the free town centre bus will be able to transfer the public from the Market to the new interchange.
PS it is not a new Interchange as we already have an Interchange which is not moving or being demolished - therefore the new build is only a bus station - in every sense of the word!
Quick, you need to get in touch with TFGM and tell them the page on their website titled 'The new Bolton interchange' is full of mistakes. Mainly the repeated use of the term 'new interchange'.

http://www.tfgm.com/
journey_planning/Pag
es/Bolton-Interchang
e.aspx
[quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Roadrunner1949[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WATOAOW[/bold] wrote: Why should moving the bus station have an adverse effect? Admittedly, it won't be next door, but it's hardly a long way away. Plus, unless the buses are going to start ploughing straight through Victoria Square, there's a good chance a lot of them will still stop on Blackhorse Street. Why not wait to see what happens instead of just making the usual predictions of doom and gloom?[/p][/quote]A lot of them wont - especially Routes, 8, 22, 36, 37, 68, 510, 512, 513, 524, 536, 551, 553, 559, 561 and 562 as they will only terminate at thee new Bus Station and do/will not circle the town![/p][/quote]Maybe I have got it wrong, but the free town centre bus will be able to transfer the public from the Market to the new interchange.[/p][/quote]PS it is not a new Interchange as we already have an Interchange which is not moving or being demolished - therefore the new build is only a bus station - in every sense of the word![/p][/quote]Quick, you need to get in touch with TFGM and tell them the page on their website titled 'The new Bolton interchange' is full of mistakes. Mainly the repeated use of the term 'new interchange'. http://www.tfgm.com/ journey_planning/Pag es/Bolton-Interchang e.aspx WATOAOW

2:10pm Wed 22 Jan 14

WATOAOW says...

steveG wrote:
WATOAOW wrote: Why should moving the bus station have an adverse effect? Admittedly, it won't be next door, but it's hardly a long way away. Plus, unless the buses are going to start ploughing straight through Victoria Square, there's a good chance a lot of them will still stop on Blackhorse Street. Why not wait to see what happens instead of just making the usual predictions of doom and gloom?
Waiting to see what happens . Isn't that what the Council usually does and the strategy that has culminated in the mess the town Centre is in today? You aren't a councillor by any chance?.
You got me, I disagreed with you, so the only logical conclusion is that I'm a councillor.

Are you a detective?
[quote][p][bold]steveG[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WATOAOW[/bold] wrote: Why should moving the bus station have an adverse effect? Admittedly, it won't be next door, but it's hardly a long way away. Plus, unless the buses are going to start ploughing straight through Victoria Square, there's a good chance a lot of them will still stop on Blackhorse Street. Why not wait to see what happens instead of just making the usual predictions of doom and gloom?[/p][/quote]Waiting to see what happens . Isn't that what the Council usually does and the strategy that has culminated in the mess the town Centre is in today? You aren't a councillor by any chance?.[/p][/quote]You got me, I disagreed with you, so the only logical conclusion is that I'm a councillor. Are you a detective? WATOAOW

7:08pm Wed 22 Jan 14

lynne22 says...

patbees wrote:
Once again put downs. Lets celebrate something good instead of ripping it about for a change. If boltons so bad simple answer - move
What a stupid statement!!!!
[quote][p][bold]patbees[/bold] wrote: Once again put downs. Lets celebrate something good instead of ripping it about for a change. If boltons so bad simple answer - move[/p][/quote]What a stupid statement!!!! lynne22

8:48pm Wed 22 Jan 14

BWFC71 says...

WATOAOW wrote:
BWFC71 wrote:
WATOAOW wrote: Why should moving the bus station have an adverse effect? Admittedly, it won't be next door, but it's hardly a long way away. Plus, unless the buses are going to start ploughing straight through Victoria Square, there's a good chance a lot of them will still stop on Blackhorse Street. Why not wait to see what happens instead of just making the usual predictions of doom and gloom?
A lot of them wont - especially Routes, 8, 22, 36, 37, 68, 510, 512, 513, 524, 536, 551, 553, 559, 561 and 562 as they will only terminate at thee new Bus Station and do/will not circle the town!
Have you got a link to the new routes. I didn't realise they'd been released?

Maybe some of those you mentioned will use the stop on Black Horse street that's across from Morrison's car park.
How can they stop on Blackhorse Street when they travel along Manchester Road, Bradshawgate and Great Moor Street and I already know that buses travelling along Thynne Street will be using Trinity Street, Bradshawgate and Great Moor Street because of the one-way system that will be in place for the bus station - do you honestly think that the bus companies will want to waste money on fuel to take the buses along a longer route - they will want to travel along the shortest route to save costs!!!

And yes I have advised TfGM of their huge error, as well as the BN!

As I have already said we already have an Interchange which is attached to the Rail station concourse which includes a black-cab taxi rank and a bus station with 6 bays as well as spaces for 150 bikes via the platforms and a carpark (behind platform 4). This new bus station will have buss bays and spaces for about 100 bikes and nothing else - except for a bridge linking the current Interchange with the new bus station!
[quote][p][bold]WATOAOW[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WATOAOW[/bold] wrote: Why should moving the bus station have an adverse effect? Admittedly, it won't be next door, but it's hardly a long way away. Plus, unless the buses are going to start ploughing straight through Victoria Square, there's a good chance a lot of them will still stop on Blackhorse Street. Why not wait to see what happens instead of just making the usual predictions of doom and gloom?[/p][/quote]A lot of them wont - especially Routes, 8, 22, 36, 37, 68, 510, 512, 513, 524, 536, 551, 553, 559, 561 and 562 as they will only terminate at thee new Bus Station and do/will not circle the town![/p][/quote]Have you got a link to the new routes. I didn't realise they'd been released? Maybe some of those you mentioned will use the stop on Black Horse street that's across from Morrison's car park.[/p][/quote]How can they stop on Blackhorse Street when they travel along Manchester Road, Bradshawgate and Great Moor Street and I already know that buses travelling along Thynne Street will be using Trinity Street, Bradshawgate and Great Moor Street because of the one-way system that will be in place for the bus station - do you honestly think that the bus companies will want to waste money on fuel to take the buses along a longer route - they will want to travel along the shortest route to save costs!!! And yes I have advised TfGM of their huge error, as well as the BN! As I have already said we already have an Interchange which is attached to the Rail station concourse which includes a black-cab taxi rank and a bus station with 6 bays as well as spaces for 150 bikes via the platforms and a carpark (behind platform 4). This new bus station will have buss bays and spaces for about 100 bikes and nothing else - except for a bridge linking the current Interchange with the new bus station! BWFC71

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