Former Tory councillor to stand for UKIP in May elections

The Bolton News: Stuart Lever Stuart Lever

A FORMER Tory councillor has announced his plans to stand for UKIP at May’s local elections.

It has not yet been decided which seat Stuart Lever, pictured, will run for, although he was previously a ward councillor for Astley Bridge for 12 years.

The 45-year-old said: “It wouldn’t matter what party I am – I was a very active when I was a councillor, and I don’t think who I am with would make a lot of difference.”

Joan Johnson, secretary of Bolton’s UKIP branch said: “Stuart became a member of UKIP in the summer and he has expressed an interest in being a candidate.”

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9:49am Tue 21 Jan 14

oftbewildered2 says...

I am not looking forward to forthcoming elections - at the moment no one party seems to have much offer - so it is important that the individuals standing really go all out to canvass and present a strong campaign (like they used to at one time).
I am not looking forward to forthcoming elections - at the moment no one party seems to have much offer - so it is important that the individuals standing really go all out to canvass and present a strong campaign (like they used to at one time). oftbewildered2

9:49am Tue 21 Jan 14

thomas222 says...

Dont forget Halliwell when your canvasing there are still plenty of ex labour supporters who feel let down. Come on UKIP!
Dont forget Halliwell when your canvasing there are still plenty of ex labour supporters who feel let down. Come on UKIP! thomas222

9:53am Tue 21 Jan 14

Jim271 says...

Remember this is the same man who complained to the newspapers when he couldn't get £2000 chairs for 50p.

He is dishonest and cannot be trusted, he has failed as a tory and is attempting to get on the UKIP bandwagon.

DO NOT VOTE FOR A PARTY WHOES MEMBERS HAVE A RECORD OF XENOPHOBIA, HOMOPHOBIA AND SEXISM.

Otherwise we may end up with homosexual snow this time round.

Feel free to sue me at any time.
Remember this is the same man who complained to the newspapers when he couldn't get £2000 chairs for 50p. He is dishonest and cannot be trusted, he has failed as a tory and is attempting to get on the UKIP bandwagon. DO NOT VOTE FOR A PARTY WHOES MEMBERS HAVE A RECORD OF XENOPHOBIA, HOMOPHOBIA AND SEXISM. Otherwise we may end up with homosexual snow this time round. Feel free to sue me at any time. Jim271

10:00am Tue 21 Jan 14

Wolfie190 says...

Vote UKIP the three main parties hate British people.
Vote UKIP the three main parties hate British people. Wolfie190

10:03am Tue 21 Jan 14

LordLeverhulme says...

"It wouldn’t matter what party I am..... I don’t think who I am with would make a lot of difference"
.
Such a ringing endorsement of UKIP there.
It's almost as if he's desperate to get back on the gravy train with any party that'll have him.
"It wouldn’t matter what party I am..... I don’t think who I am with would make a lot of difference" . Such a ringing endorsement of UKIP there. It's almost as if he's desperate to get back on the gravy train with any party that'll have him. LordLeverhulme

10:24am Tue 21 Jan 14

Tim Burr says...

Jim271 wrote:
Remember this is the same man who complained to the newspapers when he couldn't get £2000 chairs for 50p.

He is dishonest and cannot be trusted, he has failed as a tory and is attempting to get on the UKIP bandwagon.

DO NOT VOTE FOR A PARTY WHOES MEMBERS HAVE A RECORD OF XENOPHOBIA, HOMOPHOBIA AND SEXISM.

Otherwise we may end up with homosexual snow this time round.

Feel free to sue me at any time.
Good job we don't live in Lower Upham.
[quote][p][bold]Jim271[/bold] wrote: Remember this is the same man who complained to the newspapers when he couldn't get £2000 chairs for 50p. He is dishonest and cannot be trusted, he has failed as a tory and is attempting to get on the UKIP bandwagon. DO NOT VOTE FOR A PARTY WHOES MEMBERS HAVE A RECORD OF XENOPHOBIA, HOMOPHOBIA AND SEXISM. Otherwise we may end up with homosexual snow this time round. Feel free to sue me at any time.[/p][/quote]Good job we don't live in Lower Upham. Tim Burr

10:33am Tue 21 Jan 14

thomas222 says...

Jim271 wrote:
Remember this is the same man who complained to the newspapers when he couldn't get £2000 chairs for 50p. He is dishonest and cannot be trusted, he has failed as a tory and is attempting to get on the UKIP bandwagon. DO NOT VOTE FOR A PARTY WHOES MEMBERS HAVE A RECORD OF XENOPHOBIA, HOMOPHOBIA AND SEXISM. Otherwise we may end up with homosexual snow this time round. Feel free to sue me at any time.
Which perfect party do you support ?
[quote][p][bold]Jim271[/bold] wrote: Remember this is the same man who complained to the newspapers when he couldn't get £2000 chairs for 50p. He is dishonest and cannot be trusted, he has failed as a tory and is attempting to get on the UKIP bandwagon. DO NOT VOTE FOR A PARTY WHOES MEMBERS HAVE A RECORD OF XENOPHOBIA, HOMOPHOBIA AND SEXISM. Otherwise we may end up with homosexual snow this time round. Feel free to sue me at any time.[/p][/quote]Which perfect party do you support ? thomas222

10:37am Tue 21 Jan 14

thomas222 says...

LordLeverhulme wrote:
"It wouldn’t matter what party I am..... I don’t think who I am with would make a lot of difference" . Such a ringing endorsement of UKIP there. It's almost as if he's desperate to get back on the gravy train with any party that'll have him.
70% of the country want immigration stopped and similar out of europe. Whos fault is that.. UKIPS ?
[quote][p][bold]LordLeverhulme[/bold] wrote: "It wouldn’t matter what party I am..... I don’t think who I am with would make a lot of difference" . Such a ringing endorsement of UKIP there. It's almost as if he's desperate to get back on the gravy train with any party that'll have him.[/p][/quote]70% of the country want immigration stopped and similar out of europe. Whos fault is that.. UKIPS ? thomas222

10:50am Tue 21 Jan 14

Tim Burr says...

thomas222 wrote:
LordLeverhulme wrote:
"It wouldn’t matter what party I am..... I don’t think who I am with would make a lot of difference" . Such a ringing endorsement of UKIP there. It's almost as if he's desperate to get back on the gravy train with any party that'll have him.
70% of the country want immigration stopped and similar out of europe. Whos fault is that.. UKIPS ?
Is the figure of 70% from a poll and if so, how many were polled and if so, do you have a link to it please?
[quote][p][bold]thomas222[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LordLeverhulme[/bold] wrote: "It wouldn’t matter what party I am..... I don’t think who I am with would make a lot of difference" . Such a ringing endorsement of UKIP there. It's almost as if he's desperate to get back on the gravy train with any party that'll have him.[/p][/quote]70% of the country want immigration stopped and similar out of europe. Whos fault is that.. UKIPS ?[/p][/quote]Is the figure of 70% from a poll and if so, how many were polled and if so, do you have a link to it please? Tim Burr

10:59am Tue 21 Jan 14

thomas222 says...

Tim Burr wrote:
thomas222 wrote:
LordLeverhulme wrote: "It wouldn’t matter what party I am..... I don’t think who I am with would make a lot of difference" . Such a ringing endorsement of UKIP there. It's almost as if he's desperate to get back on the gravy train with any party that'll have him.
70% of the country want immigration stopped and similar out of europe. Whos fault is that.. UKIPS ?
Is the figure of 70% from a poll and if so, how many were polled and if so, do you have a link to it please?
Try ukips own poll and the sun newspaper recently did one.
[quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomas222[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LordLeverhulme[/bold] wrote: "It wouldn’t matter what party I am..... I don’t think who I am with would make a lot of difference" . Such a ringing endorsement of UKIP there. It's almost as if he's desperate to get back on the gravy train with any party that'll have him.[/p][/quote]70% of the country want immigration stopped and similar out of europe. Whos fault is that.. UKIPS ?[/p][/quote]Is the figure of 70% from a poll and if so, how many were polled and if so, do you have a link to it please?[/p][/quote]Try ukips own poll and the sun newspaper recently did one. thomas222

11:07am Tue 21 Jan 14

Tim Burr says...

UKIP'S own poll? And you fell for the guff that comes with it thomas222?

Can't wait to see Quadrilla's poll on fracking..
UKIP'S own poll? And you fell for the guff that comes with it thomas222? Can't wait to see Quadrilla's poll on fracking.. Tim Burr

11:08am Tue 21 Jan 14

Jim271 says...

thomas222

Who I support is believe it or not.

Non of your **** business!!!!!
thomas222 Who I support is believe it or not. Non of your **** business!!!!! Jim271

11:13am Tue 21 Jan 14

thomas222 says...

Tim Burr wrote:
UKIP'S own poll? And you fell for the guff that comes with it thomas222? Can't wait to see Quadrilla's poll on fracking..
All the partys are for fracking what is so bad about UKIP....... Who do you support?
[quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: UKIP'S own poll? And you fell for the guff that comes with it thomas222? Can't wait to see Quadrilla's poll on fracking..[/p][/quote]All the partys are for fracking what is so bad about UKIP....... Who do you support? thomas222

11:17am Tue 21 Jan 14

thomas222 says...

Jim271 wrote:
thomas222 Who I support is believe it or not. Non of your **** business!!!!!
Thought as mutch, knew you wouldnt say who. Easy to challenge someone but cant be challenged yourself isnt it.
[quote][p][bold]Jim271[/bold] wrote: thomas222 Who I support is believe it or not. Non of your **** business!!!!![/p][/quote]Thought as mutch, knew you wouldnt say who. Easy to challenge someone but cant be challenged yourself isnt it. thomas222

11:27am Tue 21 Jan 14

Jim271 says...

Thomas222..

I don't debate with ignorant people.

They are too stupid to know when they are wrong. You have to dumb down to their level and then they beat you with experience,

I will no longer reply to you.
Thomas222.. I don't debate with ignorant people. They are too stupid to know when they are wrong. You have to dumb down to their level and then they beat you with experience, I will no longer reply to you. Jim271

11:33am Tue 21 Jan 14

Tim Burr says...

Well tommy, apart from the fact I've not made my mind up, though I can understand why UKIP is attractive to a number of unhinged racists, scroungers who call themselves researchers and so on - just in Bolton alone - (you only need look at comments left on here by UKIP 'supporters' ) add to which, UKIP's policies are cobbled together on the back of the immigrant Farage's duty free packets of Rothmans.
To the sane, it becomes clear they are nothing more than a protest vote / party with policies that don't stand up to scrutiny.
Some say UKIP are BNP in suits, I think most are a bunch of disenfranchised, colonial tory loons.
Well tommy, apart from the fact I've not made my mind up, though I can understand why UKIP is attractive to a number of unhinged racists, scroungers who call themselves researchers and so on - just in Bolton alone - (you only need look at comments left on here by UKIP 'supporters' ) add to which, UKIP's policies are cobbled together on the back of the immigrant Farage's duty free packets of Rothmans. To the sane, it becomes clear they are nothing more than a protest vote / party with policies that don't stand up to scrutiny. Some say UKIP are BNP in suits, I think most are a bunch of disenfranchised, colonial tory loons. Tim Burr

11:41am Tue 21 Jan 14

Tim Burr says...

thomas222 wrote:
Jim271 wrote:
thomas222 Who I support is believe it or not. Non of your **** business!!!!!
Thought as mutch, knew you wouldnt say who. Easy to challenge someone but cant be challenged yourself isnt it.
Not really tommy but you're beginning to show how dictatorial many UKIP supporters are. We have freedom of choice tommy, that means if Jim doesn't want to reveal who he does or doesn't support - it's his choice.
Your spitting your dummy out gives me a nice cuddly warm feeling knowing come election time - you're the best stealth weapon UKIP have.
[quote][p][bold]thomas222[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jim271[/bold] wrote: thomas222 Who I support is believe it or not. Non of your **** business!!!!![/p][/quote]Thought as mutch, knew you wouldnt say who. Easy to challenge someone but cant be challenged yourself isnt it.[/p][/quote]Not really tommy but you're beginning to show how dictatorial many UKIP supporters are. We have freedom of choice tommy, that means if Jim doesn't want to reveal who he does or doesn't support - it's his choice. Your spitting your dummy out gives me a nice cuddly warm feeling knowing come election time - you're the best stealth weapon UKIP have. Tim Burr

11:58am Tue 21 Jan 14

thomas222 says...

Tim Burr wrote:
thomas222 wrote:
Jim271 wrote: thomas222 Who I support is believe it or not. Non of your **** business!!!!!
Thought as mutch, knew you wouldnt say who. Easy to challenge someone but cant be challenged yourself isnt it.
Not really tommy but you're beginning to show how dictatorial many UKIP supporters are. We have freedom of choice tommy, that means if Jim doesn't want to reveal who he does or doesn't support - it's his choice. Your spitting your dummy out gives me a nice cuddly warm feeling knowing come election time - you're the best stealth weapon UKIP have.
Strange the reaction UKIP gets yet Farage is the most popular party leader, ukip are gaining a thousand new members a month while Labour and the lib dems are losing loads,the torys have half the members they had since Cameron took over. I also lose count the number of tory cllrs defected to ukip and also strange how the three main partys are starting to do what ukip have been saying for years........ The game has changed.
[quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomas222[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jim271[/bold] wrote: thomas222 Who I support is believe it or not. Non of your **** business!!!!![/p][/quote]Thought as mutch, knew you wouldnt say who. Easy to challenge someone but cant be challenged yourself isnt it.[/p][/quote]Not really tommy but you're beginning to show how dictatorial many UKIP supporters are. We have freedom of choice tommy, that means if Jim doesn't want to reveal who he does or doesn't support - it's his choice. Your spitting your dummy out gives me a nice cuddly warm feeling knowing come election time - you're the best stealth weapon UKIP have.[/p][/quote]Strange the reaction UKIP gets yet Farage is the most popular party leader, ukip are gaining a thousand new members a month while Labour and the lib dems are losing loads,the torys have half the members they had since Cameron took over. I also lose count the number of tory cllrs defected to ukip and also strange how the three main partys are starting to do what ukip have been saying for years........ The game has changed. thomas222

12:01pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Jim271 says...

All those voting UKIP raise your right hand.

But keep it straight and at a 45 degree angle.
All those voting UKIP raise your right hand. But keep it straight and at a 45 degree angle. Jim271

12:23pm Tue 21 Jan 14

The Righteous One says...

thomas222 wrote:
LordLeverhulme wrote:
"It wouldn’t matter what party I am..... I don’t think who I am with would make a lot of difference" . Such a ringing endorsement of UKIP there. It's almost as if he's desperate to get back on the gravy train with any party that'll have him.
70% of the country want immigration stopped and similar out of europe. Whos fault is that.. UKIPS ?
Nope 70% want the question of immigration brought to the forefront and 95% of that 70% are more concerned about integration rather than stopping immigration - JUST READ THE PLAIN AND SIMPLE FACTS AND STOP LYING!!!
[quote][p][bold]thomas222[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LordLeverhulme[/bold] wrote: "It wouldn’t matter what party I am..... I don’t think who I am with would make a lot of difference" . Such a ringing endorsement of UKIP there. It's almost as if he's desperate to get back on the gravy train with any party that'll have him.[/p][/quote]70% of the country want immigration stopped and similar out of europe. Whos fault is that.. UKIPS ?[/p][/quote]Nope 70% want the question of immigration brought to the forefront and 95% of that 70% are more concerned about integration rather than stopping immigration - JUST READ THE PLAIN AND SIMPLE FACTS AND STOP LYING!!! The Righteous One

12:27pm Tue 21 Jan 14

The Righteous One says...

thomas222 wrote:
Tim Burr wrote:
thomas222 wrote:
Jim271 wrote: thomas222 Who I support is believe it or not. Non of your **** business!!!!!
Thought as mutch, knew you wouldnt say who. Easy to challenge someone but cant be challenged yourself isnt it.
Not really tommy but you're beginning to show how dictatorial many UKIP supporters are. We have freedom of choice tommy, that means if Jim doesn't want to reveal who he does or doesn't support - it's his choice. Your spitting your dummy out gives me a nice cuddly warm feeling knowing come election time - you're the best stealth weapon UKIP have.
Strange the reaction UKIP gets yet Farage is the most popular party leader, ukip are gaining a thousand new members a month while Labour and the lib dems are losing loads,the torys have half the members they had since Cameron took over. I also lose count the number of tory cllrs defected to ukip and also strange how the three main partys are starting to do what ukip have been saying for years........ The game has changed.
No they are not!!!

Latest figures from the end of December 2013 show a downfall in membership, for the year, by 11,255!!!

How strange is that!

So you like supporting a Party that supports sexism, making bankers richer still, belives in off-shore tax evasion, homophobia and the list goes on.....

Actually syaing that and the run-ins we have had - it doesn't surprise me as you do remind me of a neanderthal who belives every single word from a good orator no matter what the consequencies are for yourself!
[quote][p][bold]thomas222[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomas222[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jim271[/bold] wrote: thomas222 Who I support is believe it or not. Non of your **** business!!!!![/p][/quote]Thought as mutch, knew you wouldnt say who. Easy to challenge someone but cant be challenged yourself isnt it.[/p][/quote]Not really tommy but you're beginning to show how dictatorial many UKIP supporters are. We have freedom of choice tommy, that means if Jim doesn't want to reveal who he does or doesn't support - it's his choice. Your spitting your dummy out gives me a nice cuddly warm feeling knowing come election time - you're the best stealth weapon UKIP have.[/p][/quote]Strange the reaction UKIP gets yet Farage is the most popular party leader, ukip are gaining a thousand new members a month while Labour and the lib dems are losing loads,the torys have half the members they had since Cameron took over. I also lose count the number of tory cllrs defected to ukip and also strange how the three main partys are starting to do what ukip have been saying for years........ The game has changed.[/p][/quote]No they are not!!! Latest figures from the end of December 2013 show a downfall in membership, for the year, by 11,255!!! How strange is that! So you like supporting a Party that supports sexism, making bankers richer still, belives in off-shore tax evasion, homophobia and the list goes on..... Actually syaing that and the run-ins we have had - it doesn't surprise me as you do remind me of a neanderthal who belives every single word from a good orator no matter what the consequencies are for yourself! The Righteous One

1:02pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Tim Burr says...

Well at least Nigel wants to let in the Syrians, only Christian Syrians mind, not that he's a phobe.
Well at least Nigel wants to let in the Syrians, only Christian Syrians mind, not that he's a phobe. Tim Burr

1:19pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Tim Burr says...

Anybody else think Mr Lever is a chancer who see's joining Nasty Nigel as his only route back into local politics?
Anybody else think Mr Lever is a chancer who see's joining Nasty Nigel as his only route back into local politics? Tim Burr

1:35pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Jim271 says...

If gay people were responsible for the weather.

Every day the weather would be fabulous,

Not my quote but still a very good one.
If gay people were responsible for the weather. Every day the weather would be fabulous, Not my quote but still a very good one. Jim271

1:41pm Tue 21 Jan 14

thomas222 says...

The Righteous One wrote:
thomas222 wrote:
Tim Burr wrote:
thomas222 wrote:
Jim271 wrote: thomas222 Who I support is believe it or not. Non of your **** business!!!!!
Thought as mutch, knew you wouldnt say who. Easy to challenge someone but cant be challenged yourself isnt it.
Not really tommy but you're beginning to show how dictatorial many UKIP supporters are. We have freedom of choice tommy, that means if Jim doesn't want to reveal who he does or doesn't support - it's his choice. Your spitting your dummy out gives me a nice cuddly warm feeling knowing come election time - you're the best stealth weapon UKIP have.
Strange the reaction UKIP gets yet Farage is the most popular party leader, ukip are gaining a thousand new members a month while Labour and the lib dems are losing loads,the torys have half the members they had since Cameron took over. I also lose count the number of tory cllrs defected to ukip and also strange how the three main partys are starting to do what ukip have been saying for years........ The game has changed.
No they are not!!! Latest figures from the end of December 2013 show a downfall in membership, for the year, by 11,255!!! How strange is that! So you like supporting a Party that supports sexism, making bankers richer still, belives in off-shore tax evasion, homophobia and the list goes on..... Actually syaing that and the run-ins we have had - it doesn't surprise me as you do remind me of a neanderthal who belives every single word from a good orator no matter what the consequencies are for yourself!
You can all stamp your feet and keep on calling names because the more people like you who do the less people support and listen to you....... People have had enough of not being listened to, whos fault is that...... UKIPS ?
[quote][p][bold]The Righteous One[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomas222[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomas222[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jim271[/bold] wrote: thomas222 Who I support is believe it or not. Non of your **** business!!!!![/p][/quote]Thought as mutch, knew you wouldnt say who. Easy to challenge someone but cant be challenged yourself isnt it.[/p][/quote]Not really tommy but you're beginning to show how dictatorial many UKIP supporters are. We have freedom of choice tommy, that means if Jim doesn't want to reveal who he does or doesn't support - it's his choice. Your spitting your dummy out gives me a nice cuddly warm feeling knowing come election time - you're the best stealth weapon UKIP have.[/p][/quote]Strange the reaction UKIP gets yet Farage is the most popular party leader, ukip are gaining a thousand new members a month while Labour and the lib dems are losing loads,the torys have half the members they had since Cameron took over. I also lose count the number of tory cllrs defected to ukip and also strange how the three main partys are starting to do what ukip have been saying for years........ The game has changed.[/p][/quote]No they are not!!! Latest figures from the end of December 2013 show a downfall in membership, for the year, by 11,255!!! How strange is that! So you like supporting a Party that supports sexism, making bankers richer still, belives in off-shore tax evasion, homophobia and the list goes on..... Actually syaing that and the run-ins we have had - it doesn't surprise me as you do remind me of a neanderthal who belives every single word from a good orator no matter what the consequencies are for yourself![/p][/quote]You can all stamp your feet and keep on calling names because the more people like you who do the less people support and listen to you....... People have had enough of not being listened to, whos fault is that...... UKIPS ? thomas222

1:46pm Tue 21 Jan 14

thomas222 says...

The Righteous One wrote:
thomas222 wrote:
LordLeverhulme wrote: "It wouldn’t matter what party I am..... I don’t think who I am with would make a lot of difference" . Such a ringing endorsement of UKIP there. It's almost as if he's desperate to get back on the gravy train with any party that'll have him.
70% of the country want immigration stopped and similar out of europe. Whos fault is that.. UKIPS ?
Nope 70% want the question of immigration brought to the forefront and 95% of that 70% are more concerned about integration rather than stopping immigration - JUST READ THE PLAIN AND SIMPLE FACTS AND STOP LYING!!!
Im not lying... UKIP are on the march and you hate it. Who is to blame for UKIPS growing popularity?.... Your kind and the three major partys.... hurts dont it.... lol
[quote][p][bold]The Righteous One[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomas222[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LordLeverhulme[/bold] wrote: "It wouldn’t matter what party I am..... I don’t think who I am with would make a lot of difference" . Such a ringing endorsement of UKIP there. It's almost as if he's desperate to get back on the gravy train with any party that'll have him.[/p][/quote]70% of the country want immigration stopped and similar out of europe. Whos fault is that.. UKIPS ?[/p][/quote]Nope 70% want the question of immigration brought to the forefront and 95% of that 70% are more concerned about integration rather than stopping immigration - JUST READ THE PLAIN AND SIMPLE FACTS AND STOP LYING!!![/p][/quote]Im not lying... UKIP are on the march and you hate it. Who is to blame for UKIPS growing popularity?.... Your kind and the three major partys.... hurts dont it.... lol thomas222

2:17pm Tue 21 Jan 14

thomas222 says...

Jim271 wrote:
If gay people were responsible for the weather. Every day the weather would be fabulous, Not my quote but still a very good one.
He said it when he was a tory.. before he defected......
[quote][p][bold]Jim271[/bold] wrote: If gay people were responsible for the weather. Every day the weather would be fabulous, Not my quote but still a very good one.[/p][/quote]He said it when he was a tory.. before he defected...... thomas222

2:24pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Jim271 says...

Have you been drinking Thomas222

Now your claiming that if you vote UKIP the weather will be better.


(Everyone knows that the best summer we ever had was in 1976, under a labour Government,)lol

UKIP are stark staring mad!!!!!!

That's what is worrying.
Have you been drinking Thomas222 Now your claiming that if you vote UKIP the weather will be better. (Everyone knows that the best summer we ever had was in 1976, under a labour Government,)lol UKIP are stark staring mad!!!!!! That's what is worrying. Jim271

3:14pm Tue 21 Jan 14

lv8151 says...

Tim Burr wrote:
thomas222 wrote:
LordLeverhulme wrote:
"It wouldn’t matter what party I am..... I don’t think who I am with would make a lot of difference" . Such a ringing endorsement of UKIP there. It's almost as if he's desperate to get back on the gravy train with any party that'll have him.
70% of the country want immigration stopped and similar out of europe. Whos fault is that.. UKIPS ?
Is the figure of 70% from a poll and if so, how many were polled and if so, do you have a link to it please?
maybe you tim burr can back up your statement from a previous post with a link to show where in ukip's policy this is stated that you say "UKIP policy, along with compulsory abortion for downs syndrome babies"
[quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomas222[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LordLeverhulme[/bold] wrote: "It wouldn’t matter what party I am..... I don’t think who I am with would make a lot of difference" . Such a ringing endorsement of UKIP there. It's almost as if he's desperate to get back on the gravy train with any party that'll have him.[/p][/quote]70% of the country want immigration stopped and similar out of europe. Whos fault is that.. UKIPS ?[/p][/quote]Is the figure of 70% from a poll and if so, how many were polled and if so, do you have a link to it please?[/p][/quote]maybe you tim burr can back up your statement from a previous post with a link to show where in ukip's policy this is stated that you say "UKIP policy, along with compulsory abortion for downs syndrome babies" lv8151

3:46pm Tue 21 Jan 14

magic dragon says...

I applaud the fact that he has deserted the Tories. But UKIP? Please this is out of the frying pan and into the fire. The only party worth voting for is "None of the Above.
I applaud the fact that he has deserted the Tories. But UKIP? Please this is out of the frying pan and into the fire. The only party worth voting for is "None of the Above. magic dragon

4:00pm Tue 21 Jan 14

MrBenggo says...

Tim Burr wrote:
Well tommy, apart from the fact I've not made my mind up, though I can understand why UKIP is attractive to a number of unhinged racists, scroungers who call themselves researchers and so on - just in Bolton alone - (you only need look at comments left on here by UKIP 'supporters' ) add to which, UKIP's policies are cobbled together on the back of the immigrant Farage's duty free packets of Rothmans.
To the sane, it becomes clear they are nothing more than a protest vote / party with policies that don't stand up to scrutiny.
Some say UKIP are BNP in suits, I think most are a bunch of disenfranchised, colonial tory loons.
Tim,Cameron started out by calling UKIP members "loony"and he is now running scared.
You are just going along what Labour was saying in its term in government about anyone who spoke out against immigration,they were racist,give Ukip its due it has been its policy to halt immigration all along,and quit the EU.
I always voted Labour but Labour is all for immigration and staying in the EU.
If voting UKIP is a "protest vote"there are going to be hell of a lot of people protesting,and Labour and Tory parties are in for a good hiding.
[quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: Well tommy, apart from the fact I've not made my mind up, though I can understand why UKIP is attractive to a number of unhinged racists, scroungers who call themselves researchers and so on - just in Bolton alone - (you only need look at comments left on here by UKIP 'supporters' ) add to which, UKIP's policies are cobbled together on the back of the immigrant Farage's duty free packets of Rothmans. To the sane, it becomes clear they are nothing more than a protest vote / party with policies that don't stand up to scrutiny. Some say UKIP are BNP in suits, I think most are a bunch of disenfranchised, colonial tory loons.[/p][/quote]Tim,Cameron started out by calling UKIP members "loony"and he is now running scared. You are just going along what Labour was saying in its term in government about anyone who spoke out against immigration,they were racist,give Ukip its due it has been its policy to halt immigration all along,and quit the EU. I always voted Labour but Labour is all for immigration and staying in the EU. If voting UKIP is a "protest vote"there are going to be hell of a lot of people protesting,and Labour and Tory parties are in for a good hiding. MrBenggo

5:53pm Tue 21 Jan 14

lv8151 says...

lv8151 wrote:
Tim Burr wrote:
thomas222 wrote:
LordLeverhulme wrote:
"It wouldn’t matter what party I am..... I don’t think who I am with would make a lot of difference" . Such a ringing endorsement of UKIP there. It's almost as if he's desperate to get back on the gravy train with any party that'll have him.
70% of the country want immigration stopped and similar out of europe. Whos fault is that.. UKIPS ?
Is the figure of 70% from a poll and if so, how many were polled and if so, do you have a link to it please?
maybe you tim burr can back up your statement from a previous post with a link to show where in ukip's policy this is stated that you say "UKIP policy, along with compulsory abortion for downs syndrome babies"
lol ... i see ive hit a nerve with the tim burr fans .... check out the comments section ... worse than thatcher article if you do not believe that he put this outstanding claim as to what ukip policy said
[quote][p][bold]lv8151[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomas222[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LordLeverhulme[/bold] wrote: "It wouldn’t matter what party I am..... I don’t think who I am with would make a lot of difference" . Such a ringing endorsement of UKIP there. It's almost as if he's desperate to get back on the gravy train with any party that'll have him.[/p][/quote]70% of the country want immigration stopped and similar out of europe. Whos fault is that.. UKIPS ?[/p][/quote]Is the figure of 70% from a poll and if so, how many were polled and if so, do you have a link to it please?[/p][/quote]maybe you tim burr can back up your statement from a previous post with a link to show where in ukip's policy this is stated that you say "UKIP policy, along with compulsory abortion for downs syndrome babies"[/p][/quote]lol ... i see ive hit a nerve with the tim burr fans .... check out the comments section ... worse than thatcher article if you do not believe that he put this outstanding claim as to what ukip policy said lv8151

6:22pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Niccii says...

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6:29pm Tue 21 Jan 14

lv8151 says...

Niccii wrote:
http://edlnews.co.uk

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[quote][p][bold]Niccii[/bold] wrote: http://edlnews.co.uk /index.php/latest-ne ws/latest-news/1155- upton-no-good-racist -shame-of-edl-suppor ting-bolton-ukip-man[/p][/quote]bad link ... wont go to article lv8151

6:41pm Tue 21 Jan 14

lv8151 says...

lv8151 wrote:
Niccii wrote:
http://edlnews.co.uk


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[quote][p][bold]lv8151[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Niccii[/bold] wrote: http://edlnews.co.uk /index.php/latest-ne ws/latest-news/1155- upton-no-good-racist -shame-of-edl-suppor ting-bolton-ukip-man[/p][/quote]bad link ... wont go to article[/p][/quote]http://edlnews.co.uk /index.php/latest-ne ws/latest-news/1155- upton-no-good-racist -shame-of-edl-suppor ting-bolton-ukip-man ?highlight=WyJib2x0b 24iXQ== lv8151

6:41pm Tue 21 Jan 14

lv8151 says...

lv8151 wrote:
lv8151 wrote:
Niccii wrote:
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[quote][p][bold]lv8151[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lv8151[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Niccii[/bold] wrote: http://edlnews.co.uk /index.php/latest-ne ws/latest-news/1155- upton-no-good-racist -shame-of-edl-suppor ting-bolton-ukip-man[/p][/quote]bad link ... wont go to article[/p][/quote]http://edlnews.co.uk /index.php/latest-ne ws/latest-news/1155- upton-no-good-racist -shame-of-edl-suppor ting-bolton-ukip-man ?highlight=WyJib2x0b 24iXQ==[/p][/quote]lol this didn't work aswell lv8151

6:45pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Niccii says...

Put "Upton no good: Racist shame of EDL supporting Bolton UKIP man" into google.
Put "Upton no good: Racist shame of EDL supporting Bolton UKIP man" into google. Niccii

7:52pm Tue 21 Jan 14

BWFC71 says...

thomas222 wrote:
Jim271 wrote:
If gay people were responsible for the weather. Every day the weather would be fabulous, Not my quote but still a very good one.
He said it when he was a tory.. before he defected......
Funny, as it was only said in the last week or so WHILST being a member of UKIP!

You seem to know nothing of the party you are going to vote for, and whats even worse you don't even seem to care - even if its detrimental for yourself - just as long as you think immigration will get stopped and we come out of the EU - both of which will not happen as it would kill the UK, which is already so much in debt (worse than the GDP of Greece and Portugal put together) that it will only take one more credit rating company to downgrade the UK that we will become the new Turkey (Sick man of Europe).

Even Farage is beginning to waver with regards to leaving the EU with so many businesses wanting to pull out of the UK if we do - now that is a FACT and can be seen in to day's Metro! PS if Farage is so against the EU then why does he pronounce his name the French way (Fararge) rather than the British way (Farrage) - is he embarrassed to be truly British???
[quote][p][bold]thomas222[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jim271[/bold] wrote: If gay people were responsible for the weather. Every day the weather would be fabulous, Not my quote but still a very good one.[/p][/quote]He said it when he was a tory.. before he defected......[/p][/quote]Funny, as it was only said in the last week or so WHILST being a member of UKIP! You seem to know nothing of the party you are going to vote for, and whats even worse you don't even seem to care - even if its detrimental for yourself - just as long as you think immigration will get stopped and we come out of the EU - both of which will not happen as it would kill the UK, which is already so much in debt (worse than the GDP of Greece and Portugal put together) that it will only take one more credit rating company to downgrade the UK that we will become the new Turkey (Sick man of Europe). Even Farage is beginning to waver with regards to leaving the EU with so many businesses wanting to pull out of the UK if we do - now that is a FACT and can be seen in to day's Metro! PS if Farage is so against the EU then why does he pronounce his name the French way (Fararge) rather than the British way (Farrage) - is he embarrassed to be truly British??? BWFC71

7:56pm Tue 21 Jan 14

thomas222 says...

Jim271 wrote:
Have you been drinking Thomas222 Now your claiming that if you vote UKIP the weather will be better. (Everyone knows that the best summer we ever had was in 1976, under a labour Government,)lol UKIP are stark staring mad!!!!!! That's what is worrying.
Jim you are now in the minority pal... enjoy!
[quote][p][bold]Jim271[/bold] wrote: Have you been drinking Thomas222 Now your claiming that if you vote UKIP the weather will be better. (Everyone knows that the best summer we ever had was in 1976, under a labour Government,)lol UKIP are stark staring mad!!!!!! That's what is worrying.[/p][/quote]Jim you are now in the minority pal... enjoy! thomas222

8:00pm Tue 21 Jan 14

thomas222 says...

BWFC71 wrote:
thomas222 wrote:
Jim271 wrote: If gay people were responsible for the weather. Every day the weather would be fabulous, Not my quote but still a very good one.
He said it when he was a tory.. before he defected......
Funny, as it was only said in the last week or so WHILST being a member of UKIP! You seem to know nothing of the party you are going to vote for, and whats even worse you don't even seem to care - even if its detrimental for yourself - just as long as you think immigration will get stopped and we come out of the EU - both of which will not happen as it would kill the UK, which is already so much in debt (worse than the GDP of Greece and Portugal put together) that it will only take one more credit rating company to downgrade the UK that we will become the new Turkey (Sick man of Europe). Even Farage is beginning to waver with regards to leaving the EU with so many businesses wanting to pull out of the UK if we do - now that is a FACT and can be seen in to day's Metro! PS if Farage is so against the EU then why does he pronounce his name the French way (Fararge) rather than the British way (Farrage) - is he embarrassed to be truly British???
You are a joke Pal.. your kind is finished.. welcome to the new order... lol
[quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomas222[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jim271[/bold] wrote: If gay people were responsible for the weather. Every day the weather would be fabulous, Not my quote but still a very good one.[/p][/quote]He said it when he was a tory.. before he defected......[/p][/quote]Funny, as it was only said in the last week or so WHILST being a member of UKIP! You seem to know nothing of the party you are going to vote for, and whats even worse you don't even seem to care - even if its detrimental for yourself - just as long as you think immigration will get stopped and we come out of the EU - both of which will not happen as it would kill the UK, which is already so much in debt (worse than the GDP of Greece and Portugal put together) that it will only take one more credit rating company to downgrade the UK that we will become the new Turkey (Sick man of Europe). Even Farage is beginning to waver with regards to leaving the EU with so many businesses wanting to pull out of the UK if we do - now that is a FACT and can be seen in to day's Metro! PS if Farage is so against the EU then why does he pronounce his name the French way (Fararge) rather than the British way (Farrage) - is he embarrassed to be truly British???[/p][/quote]You are a joke Pal.. your kind is finished.. welcome to the new order... lol thomas222

8:15pm Tue 21 Jan 14

BWFC71 says...

Thomas the facts are these:

July 2013 the number of members UKIP had was almost 40,000
December 2013 the number of members UKIP had was 32,500

So why the drop of 7500 in less than 6 months?

(figures taken from UKIP.org - at least I prove my facts, you have never done so and possibly too scared to do so because you know you are a liar!)
Thomas the facts are these: July 2013 the number of members UKIP had was almost 40,000 December 2013 the number of members UKIP had was 32,500 So why the drop of 7500 in less than 6 months? (figures taken from UKIP.org - at least I prove my facts, you have never done so and possibly too scared to do so because you know you are a liar!) BWFC71

8:17pm Tue 21 Jan 14

BWFC71 says...

Also, lets not forget the other fact....

3 elections in Bolton they have had a candidate and not won any of them and in the last one - yes they may have beaten the LibDems, which is hard nowadays, but the Conservatives actually increased their share of the vote!!!

So you call that the new order!
Also, lets not forget the other fact.... 3 elections in Bolton they have had a candidate and not won any of them and in the last one - yes they may have beaten the LibDems, which is hard nowadays, but the Conservatives actually increased their share of the vote!!! So you call that the new order! BWFC71

9:25pm Tue 21 Jan 14

thomas222 says...

BWFC71 wrote:
Also, lets not forget the other fact.... 3 elections in Bolton they have had a candidate and not won any of them and in the last one - yes they may have beaten the LibDems, which is hard nowadays, but the Conservatives actually increased their share of the vote!!! So you call that the new order!
Stop having a paddy and face facts... you and your mates call me and ukip racist but all i see on AJ is Muslims all over the world slaughtering with truly awful crimes against each other. How does that work then ?
PS.Oh please dont say its all our fault yet again..... its boring.
[quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: Also, lets not forget the other fact.... 3 elections in Bolton they have had a candidate and not won any of them and in the last one - yes they may have beaten the LibDems, which is hard nowadays, but the Conservatives actually increased their share of the vote!!! So you call that the new order![/p][/quote]Stop having a paddy and face facts... you and your mates call me and ukip racist but all i see on AJ is Muslims all over the world slaughtering with truly awful crimes against each other. How does that work then ? PS.Oh please dont say its all our fault yet again..... its boring. thomas222

9:37pm Tue 21 Jan 14

BWFC71 says...

thomas222 wrote:
BWFC71 wrote:
Also, lets not forget the other fact.... 3 elections in Bolton they have had a candidate and not won any of them and in the last one - yes they may have beaten the LibDems, which is hard nowadays, but the Conservatives actually increased their share of the vote!!! So you call that the new order!
Stop having a paddy and face facts... you and your mates call me and ukip racist but all i see on AJ is Muslims all over the world slaughtering with truly awful crimes against each other. How does that work then ?
PS.Oh please dont say its all our fault yet again..... its boring.
Not having a Paddy - true or false - The Conservatives INCREASED their share of the vote in the last by-election in Bolton?

When was the first Muslim in the UK?

- oh and btw blaming the world ills on one group of people is exactly what The NAZI party did and look where it got them! I actually work with quite a few Muslims and there are completely nothing like you and your ilk (ie. VERY ignorant) portray - I bet you work with a few and don't even realise!!!
[quote][p][bold]thomas222[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: Also, lets not forget the other fact.... 3 elections in Bolton they have had a candidate and not won any of them and in the last one - yes they may have beaten the LibDems, which is hard nowadays, but the Conservatives actually increased their share of the vote!!! So you call that the new order![/p][/quote]Stop having a paddy and face facts... you and your mates call me and ukip racist but all i see on AJ is Muslims all over the world slaughtering with truly awful crimes against each other. How does that work then ? PS.Oh please dont say its all our fault yet again..... its boring.[/p][/quote]Not having a Paddy - true or false - The Conservatives INCREASED their share of the vote in the last by-election in Bolton? When was the first Muslim in the UK? - oh and btw blaming the world ills on one group of people is exactly what The NAZI party did and look where it got them! I actually work with quite a few Muslims and there are completely nothing like you and your ilk (ie. VERY ignorant) portray - I bet you work with a few and don't even realise!!! BWFC71

9:44pm Tue 21 Jan 14

thomas222 says...

BWFC71 wrote:
thomas222 wrote:
BWFC71 wrote: Also, lets not forget the other fact.... 3 elections in Bolton they have had a candidate and not won any of them and in the last one - yes they may have beaten the LibDems, which is hard nowadays, but the Conservatives actually increased their share of the vote!!! So you call that the new order!
Stop having a paddy and face facts... you and your mates call me and ukip racist but all i see on AJ is Muslims all over the world slaughtering with truly awful crimes against each other. How does that work then ? PS.Oh please dont say its all our fault yet again..... its boring.
Not having a Paddy - true or false - The Conservatives INCREASED their share of the vote in the last by-election in Bolton? When was the first Muslim in the UK? - oh and btw blaming the world ills on one group of people is exactly what The NAZI party did and look where it got them! I actually work with quite a few Muslims and there are completely nothing like you and your ilk (ie. VERY ignorant) portray - I bet you work with a few and don't even realise!!!
Answer the question.....!
[quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomas222[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: Also, lets not forget the other fact.... 3 elections in Bolton they have had a candidate and not won any of them and in the last one - yes they may have beaten the LibDems, which is hard nowadays, but the Conservatives actually increased their share of the vote!!! So you call that the new order![/p][/quote]Stop having a paddy and face facts... you and your mates call me and ukip racist but all i see on AJ is Muslims all over the world slaughtering with truly awful crimes against each other. How does that work then ? PS.Oh please dont say its all our fault yet again..... its boring.[/p][/quote]Not having a Paddy - true or false - The Conservatives INCREASED their share of the vote in the last by-election in Bolton? When was the first Muslim in the UK? - oh and btw blaming the world ills on one group of people is exactly what The NAZI party did and look where it got them! I actually work with quite a few Muslims and there are completely nothing like you and your ilk (ie. VERY ignorant) portray - I bet you work with a few and don't even realise!!![/p][/quote]Answer the question.....! thomas222

9:48pm Tue 21 Jan 14

BWFC71 says...

thomas222 wrote:
BWFC71 wrote:
thomas222 wrote:
BWFC71 wrote: Also, lets not forget the other fact.... 3 elections in Bolton they have had a candidate and not won any of them and in the last one - yes they may have beaten the LibDems, which is hard nowadays, but the Conservatives actually increased their share of the vote!!! So you call that the new order!
Stop having a paddy and face facts... you and your mates call me and ukip racist but all i see on AJ is Muslims all over the world slaughtering with truly awful crimes against each other. How does that work then ? PS.Oh please dont say its all our fault yet again..... its boring.
Not having a Paddy - true or false - The Conservatives INCREASED their share of the vote in the last by-election in Bolton? When was the first Muslim in the UK? - oh and btw blaming the world ills on one group of people is exactly what The NAZI party did and look where it got them! I actually work with quite a few Muslims and there are completely nothing like you and your ilk (ie. VERY ignorant) portray - I bet you work with a few and don't even realise!!!
Answer the question.....!
You don't answer mine, so why should I answer yours. (yes very childlike, just like you)


This cannot always be one direction, which it has been.

Therefore I am following your way of doing things, like it.
[quote][p][bold]thomas222[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomas222[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: Also, lets not forget the other fact.... 3 elections in Bolton they have had a candidate and not won any of them and in the last one - yes they may have beaten the LibDems, which is hard nowadays, but the Conservatives actually increased their share of the vote!!! So you call that the new order![/p][/quote]Stop having a paddy and face facts... you and your mates call me and ukip racist but all i see on AJ is Muslims all over the world slaughtering with truly awful crimes against each other. How does that work then ? PS.Oh please dont say its all our fault yet again..... its boring.[/p][/quote]Not having a Paddy - true or false - The Conservatives INCREASED their share of the vote in the last by-election in Bolton? When was the first Muslim in the UK? - oh and btw blaming the world ills on one group of people is exactly what The NAZI party did and look where it got them! I actually work with quite a few Muslims and there are completely nothing like you and your ilk (ie. VERY ignorant) portray - I bet you work with a few and don't even realise!!![/p][/quote]Answer the question.....![/p][/quote]You don't answer mine, so why should I answer yours. (yes very childlike, just like you) This cannot always be one direction, which it has been. Therefore I am following your way of doing things, like it. BWFC71

9:53pm Tue 21 Jan 14

BWFC71 says...

But it is not just Muslims who have a go at each other. It is NOT unique to one religion! If anything they are just following a lead which all Chsritains do to each other on a daily basis somewhere in the world - look at many African countries where there is conflict between same religions or even crimes against each other. Look at all the murders that take place in the UK - how many are done by white British Christians against white British Christians!!

So do not think it is only the Muslims that have the problem

Look at the IRA fighting amongst their own kind - Christians, and not just Christians, but fellow British!

Look at ETA fighting amongst their own nationals - Spanish, and yet they are all Christian.

So where do you stand with regards to the IRA (Roman Catholics v Protestants - but all Christian)?
But it is not just Muslims who have a go at each other. It is NOT unique to one religion! If anything they are just following a lead which all Chsritains do to each other on a daily basis somewhere in the world - look at many African countries where there is conflict between same religions or even crimes against each other. Look at all the murders that take place in the UK - how many are done by white British Christians against white British Christians!! So do not think it is only the Muslims that have the problem Look at the IRA fighting amongst their own kind - Christians, and not just Christians, but fellow British! Look at ETA fighting amongst their own nationals - Spanish, and yet they are all Christian. So where do you stand with regards to the IRA (Roman Catholics v Protestants - but all Christian)? BWFC71

9:58pm Tue 21 Jan 14

BWFC71 says...

But the UKIP is not there to stop infighting in religions. They cannot stop all immigration - lets not forget that the total number of people entering this country also includes many ex-pats that went abroad looking for their future and end up coming back home, such as myself - so for the 2013 figures I am an immigrant - yet I am British born white and Christian by birth.

UKIP is there to supposedly bring in more control - but it is a control they will not be able to control because of the number of people continually entering and leaving the country whether they are EU citizens or from non-EU countries.

Whilst on this note - where are YOUR Romanians and Bulgarians which you said would be here by now - I see that never happened!!!
But the UKIP is not there to stop infighting in religions. They cannot stop all immigration - lets not forget that the total number of people entering this country also includes many ex-pats that went abroad looking for their future and end up coming back home, such as myself - so for the 2013 figures I am an immigrant - yet I am British born white and Christian by birth. UKIP is there to supposedly bring in more control - but it is a control they will not be able to control because of the number of people continually entering and leaving the country whether they are EU citizens or from non-EU countries. Whilst on this note - where are YOUR Romanians and Bulgarians which you said would be here by now - I see that never happened!!! BWFC71

12:07am Wed 22 Jan 14

thomas222 says...

You lot are a joke... your games have ended...... Bye losers you took the p to far..... Come on UKIP!
You lot are a joke... your games have ended...... Bye losers you took the p to far..... Come on UKIP! thomas222

8:49am Wed 22 Jan 14

boltonchap says...

Thomas222. BWFC also posts on these forums as the righteous one. His postings are often incoherent and hysterical combined with a tendency to get nasty to anyone who disagrees with his facile arguments. I too have been accused by him of being a spammer, a troll and a stalker plus threats to have me banned from these forums. My advice to you is ignore him and don't waste your time.
Thomas222. BWFC also posts on these forums as the righteous one. His postings are often incoherent and hysterical combined with a tendency to get nasty to anyone who disagrees with his facile arguments. I too have been accused by him of being a spammer, a troll and a stalker plus threats to have me banned from these forums. My advice to you is ignore him and don't waste your time. boltonchap

8:57am Wed 22 Jan 14

The Righteous One says...

thomas222 wrote:
You lot are a joke... your games have ended...... Bye losers you took the p to far..... Come on UKIP!
I aint takern the P - the fact is you do not read before your post and 99.9% , nope in fact 100% of the time you are completely wrong.

You don't even know UKIP's policies - otherwise, if you did, you would know they are not the Party for the working ro middle class - they are the party for teh Bankers and toffs, but will by saying the right rhetoric they will get the vote from the exact same people that you belong to - ignorant and very easily won over because of words - but once they are in power they will forget about your class and just concentrate on themselves and making sure we head back to the Victoria era with regards to workhouses, etc etc etc

For once, just man up, and realise that you are wrong about UKIP, and vote for what will be good for the country rather than what will be good for UKIP!
[quote][p][bold]thomas222[/bold] wrote: You lot are a joke... your games have ended...... Bye losers you took the p to far..... Come on UKIP![/p][/quote]I aint takern the P - the fact is you do not read before your post and 99.9% , nope in fact 100% of the time you are completely wrong. You don't even know UKIP's policies - otherwise, if you did, you would know they are not the Party for the working ro middle class - they are the party for teh Bankers and toffs, but will by saying the right rhetoric they will get the vote from the exact same people that you belong to - ignorant and very easily won over because of words - but once they are in power they will forget about your class and just concentrate on themselves and making sure we head back to the Victoria era with regards to workhouses, etc etc etc For once, just man up, and realise that you are wrong about UKIP, and vote for what will be good for the country rather than what will be good for UKIP! The Righteous One

8:59am Wed 22 Jan 14

The Righteous One says...

boltonchap wrote:
Thomas222. BWFC also posts on these forums as the righteous one. His postings are often incoherent and hysterical combined with a tendency to get nasty to anyone who disagrees with his facile arguments. I too have been accused by him of being a spammer, a troll and a stalker plus threats to have me banned from these forums. My advice to you is ignore him and don't waste your time.
Well I got nasty with you because of your racial overtones which you keep denying!!!!

Plus Thomas already knows what my work screen-name is - so that point is null and void!!!
[quote][p][bold]boltonchap[/bold] wrote: Thomas222. BWFC also posts on these forums as the righteous one. His postings are often incoherent and hysterical combined with a tendency to get nasty to anyone who disagrees with his facile arguments. I too have been accused by him of being a spammer, a troll and a stalker plus threats to have me banned from these forums. My advice to you is ignore him and don't waste your time.[/p][/quote]Well I got nasty with you because of your racial overtones which you keep denying!!!! Plus Thomas already knows what my work screen-name is - so that point is null and void!!! The Righteous One

9:01am Wed 22 Jan 14

The Righteous One says...

thomas222 wrote:
You lot are a joke... your games have ended...... Bye losers you took the p to far..... Come on UKIP!
My lot are a joke - just because, yet again, I have proved you wrong!!!!

AQnd once again you are trying to deflect from answering my question - but remember I answer yours (or is it because you know you are wrong!)

So once again I ask:-

So where do you stand with regards to the IRA (Roman Catholics v Protestants - but all Christian)?

Where are YOUR Romanians and Bulgarians which you said would be here by now?
[quote][p][bold]thomas222[/bold] wrote: You lot are a joke... your games have ended...... Bye losers you took the p to far..... Come on UKIP![/p][/quote]My lot are a joke - just because, yet again, I have proved you wrong!!!! AQnd once again you are trying to deflect from answering my question - but remember I answer yours (or is it because you know you are wrong!) So once again I ask:- So where do you stand with regards to the IRA (Roman Catholics v Protestants - but all Christian)? Where are YOUR Romanians and Bulgarians which you said would be here by now? The Righteous One

9:04am Wed 22 Jan 14

boltonchap says...

Thomasss forgot to warn you that he'll call you a racist too but I can see he just has. He will never ever answer your questions.
Thomasss forgot to warn you that he'll call you a racist too but I can see he just has. He will never ever answer your questions. boltonchap

9:07am Wed 22 Jan 14

boltonchap says...

The Righteous One wrote:
boltonchap wrote:
Thomas222. BWFC also posts on these forums as the righteous one. His postings are often incoherent and hysterical combined with a tendency to get nasty to anyone who disagrees with his facile arguments. I too have been accused by him of being a spammer, a troll and a stalker plus threats to have me banned from these forums. My advice to you is ignore him and don't waste your time.
Well I got nasty with you because of your racial overtones which you keep denying!!!!

Plus Thomas already knows what my work screen-name is - so that point is null and void!!!
Listen saddo I will say this once and once only - I am not a racist. End of. Now where are those two teas no sugar I asked for ages ago. Jump to it tea boy.
[quote][p][bold]The Righteous One[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]boltonchap[/bold] wrote: Thomas222. BWFC also posts on these forums as the righteous one. His postings are often incoherent and hysterical combined with a tendency to get nasty to anyone who disagrees with his facile arguments. I too have been accused by him of being a spammer, a troll and a stalker plus threats to have me banned from these forums. My advice to you is ignore him and don't waste your time.[/p][/quote]Well I got nasty with you because of your racial overtones which you keep denying!!!! Plus Thomas already knows what my work screen-name is - so that point is null and void!!![/p][/quote]Listen saddo I will say this once and once only - I am not a racist. End of. Now where are those two teas no sugar I asked for ages ago. Jump to it tea boy. boltonchap

9:52am Wed 22 Jan 14

thomas222 says...

The Righteous One wrote:
thomas222 wrote: You lot are a joke... your games have ended...... Bye losers you took the p to far..... Come on UKIP!
I aint takern the P - the fact is you do not read before your post and 99.9% , nope in fact 100% of the time you are completely wrong. You don't even know UKIP's policies - otherwise, if you did, you would know they are not the Party for the working ro middle class - they are the party for teh Bankers and toffs, but will by saying the right rhetoric they will get the vote from the exact same people that you belong to - ignorant and very easily won over because of words - but once they are in power they will forget about your class and just concentrate on themselves and making sure we head back to the Victoria era with regards to workhouses, etc etc etc For once, just man up, and realise that you are wrong about UKIP, and vote for what will be good for the country rather than what will be good for UKIP!
So what is the vote i should go for instead of UKIP and how can you see into the future what UKIP will or will not do ?
[quote][p][bold]The Righteous One[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomas222[/bold] wrote: You lot are a joke... your games have ended...... Bye losers you took the p to far..... Come on UKIP![/p][/quote]I aint takern the P - the fact is you do not read before your post and 99.9% , nope in fact 100% of the time you are completely wrong. You don't even know UKIP's policies - otherwise, if you did, you would know they are not the Party for the working ro middle class - they are the party for teh Bankers and toffs, but will by saying the right rhetoric they will get the vote from the exact same people that you belong to - ignorant and very easily won over because of words - but once they are in power they will forget about your class and just concentrate on themselves and making sure we head back to the Victoria era with regards to workhouses, etc etc etc For once, just man up, and realise that you are wrong about UKIP, and vote for what will be good for the country rather than what will be good for UKIP![/p][/quote]So what is the vote i should go for instead of UKIP and how can you see into the future what UKIP will or will not do ? thomas222

10:02am Wed 22 Jan 14

Wolfie190 says...

I think this article was posted somewhere else yesterday evening as earlier the pro UKIP comments had a large majority of thumbs ups as you would expect from a disaffected population then all of a sudden last night it reversed. The political elite employ people to seek out and discredit UKIP lets call it the peoples party.
I think this article was posted somewhere else yesterday evening as earlier the pro UKIP comments had a large majority of thumbs ups as you would expect from a disaffected population then all of a sudden last night it reversed. The political elite employ people to seek out and discredit UKIP lets call it the peoples party. Wolfie190

10:04am Wed 22 Jan 14

Malcolm Tucker says...

I don't always agree with Righteous One/ BWFC71, but he's prepared to stand up and challenge lies and misinformation spread by the racists. He's probably the best informed poster when it comes to issues of race, Europe and migration.

As far as UKIP/BNP are concerned. I think their star has waned now, but will probably have a bit of a rally this May at the Euro elections. I expect they will come second to Labour, with the Tories 3rd. They'll take a few seats from the Tories, down south but Labour will make big gains from the Libs (who will hopefully be wiped out) and the Tories. Check the last results in 2009, when Labour did appallingly badly.

In council elections, held on the same day, UKIP/BNP wont make much progress up here, but will cause a bit of damage to the Tories down south. If Lever, the cretin does stand in Astley Bridge, where the Tories held it narrowly last time, then I can only suspect that Labour will be rubbing their hands. So go for it Stu!

So what will the Tory response be to moderate UKIP/BNP success in the Euros? They will swing to right - that's what. Its happening already with Tory backbenchers. And when they move further to the right, do they think the vast majority of moderate voters will stay with them? No, they will desert them even more than they are doing at present. This is Camerons dilemma which is why he tries to talk the talk of moderation. He knows that no Party wins elections when it deserts the average middle of the road voter.

Labour in Bolton are inevitably going to the consolidate their already strong position on the Council, with more gains from the dwindling Tory and Lib Dem numbers. The day after, the BN trolls will be scratching their heads and saying - this time next year we will get rid of Labour, just like they have been saying for all the previous elections.

By the way, the other good news is that the fat freeloader Nazi, Nick Griffin is likely to lose his seat as well.
I don't always agree with Righteous One/ BWFC71, but he's prepared to stand up and challenge lies and misinformation spread by the racists. He's probably the best informed poster when it comes to issues of race, Europe and migration. As far as UKIP/BNP are concerned. I think their star has waned now, but will probably have a bit of a rally this May at the Euro elections. I expect they will come second to Labour, with the Tories 3rd. They'll take a few seats from the Tories, down south but Labour will make big gains from the Libs (who will hopefully be wiped out) and the Tories. Check the last results in 2009, when Labour did appallingly badly. In council elections, held on the same day, UKIP/BNP wont make much progress up here, but will cause a bit of damage to the Tories down south. If Lever, the cretin does stand in Astley Bridge, where the Tories held it narrowly last time, then I can only suspect that Labour will be rubbing their hands. So go for it Stu! So what will the Tory response be to moderate UKIP/BNP success in the Euros? They will swing to right - that's what. Its happening already with Tory backbenchers. And when they move further to the right, do they think the vast majority of moderate voters will stay with them? No, they will desert them even more than they are doing at present. This is Camerons dilemma which is why he tries to talk the talk of moderation. He knows that no Party wins elections when it deserts the average middle of the road voter. Labour in Bolton are inevitably going to the consolidate their already strong position on the Council, with more gains from the dwindling Tory and Lib Dem numbers. The day after, the BN trolls will be scratching their heads and saying - this time next year we will get rid of Labour, just like they have been saying for all the previous elections. By the way, the other good news is that the fat freeloader Nazi, Nick Griffin is likely to lose his seat as well. Malcolm Tucker

10:10am Wed 22 Jan 14

Jim271 says...

Thomas222 states that UKIP are on the march.

singing "Tomorrow Belongs to me" no doubt.
Thomas222 states that UKIP are on the march. singing "Tomorrow Belongs to me" no doubt. Jim271

10:32am Wed 22 Jan 14

barry g says...

You are all deluded.... Whichever party gets power or candidates win a seat, they are in it for themselves. Not 1 of them give a toss about you or me. Its about free lunches & and how many pie's they can stick their fingers in.

LIBERTY UK.
You are all deluded.... Whichever party gets power or candidates win a seat, they are in it for themselves. Not 1 of them give a toss about you or me. Its about free lunches & and how many pie's they can stick their fingers in. LIBERTY UK. barry g

10:55am Wed 22 Jan 14

Malcolm Tucker says...

Wolfie190 wrote:
I think this article was posted somewhere else yesterday evening as earlier the pro UKIP comments had a large majority of thumbs ups as you would expect from a disaffected population then all of a sudden last night it reversed. The political elite employ people to seek out and discredit UKIP lets call it the peoples party.
ha ha ha

last week I had a comment on another a story that said unprovoked violence is always wrong. Because the victim was Asian, I got 25 thumbs down in 15 minutes.

I guess 2 can play at that game eh? ;-)
[quote][p][bold]Wolfie190[/bold] wrote: I think this article was posted somewhere else yesterday evening as earlier the pro UKIP comments had a large majority of thumbs ups as you would expect from a disaffected population then all of a sudden last night it reversed. The political elite employ people to seek out and discredit UKIP lets call it the peoples party.[/p][/quote]ha ha ha last week I had a comment on another a story that said unprovoked violence is always wrong. Because the victim was Asian, I got 25 thumbs down in 15 minutes. I guess 2 can play at that game eh? ;-) Malcolm Tucker

10:58am Wed 22 Jan 14

thomas222 says...

Malcolm Tucker wrote:
I don't always agree with Righteous One/ BWFC71, but he's prepared to stand up and challenge lies and misinformation spread by the racists. He's probably the best informed poster when it comes to issues of race, Europe and migration. As far as UKIP/BNP are concerned. I think their star has waned now, but will probably have a bit of a rally this May at the Euro elections. I expect they will come second to Labour, with the Tories 3rd. They'll take a few seats from the Tories, down south but Labour will make big gains from the Libs (who will hopefully be wiped out) and the Tories. Check the last results in 2009, when Labour did appallingly badly. In council elections, held on the same day, UKIP/BNP wont make much progress up here, but will cause a bit of damage to the Tories down south. If Lever, the cretin does stand in Astley Bridge, where the Tories held it narrowly last time, then I can only suspect that Labour will be rubbing their hands. So go for it Stu! So what will the Tory response be to moderate UKIP/BNP success in the Euros? They will swing to right - that's what. Its happening already with Tory backbenchers. And when they move further to the right, do they think the vast majority of moderate voters will stay with them? No, they will desert them even more than they are doing at present. This is Camerons dilemma which is why he tries to talk the talk of moderation. He knows that no Party wins elections when it deserts the average middle of the road voter. Labour in Bolton are inevitably going to the consolidate their already strong position on the Council, with more gains from the dwindling Tory and Lib Dem numbers. The day after, the BN trolls will be scratching their heads and saying - this time next year we will get rid of Labour, just like they have been saying for all the previous elections. By the way, the other good news is that the fat freeloader Nazi, Nick Griffin is likely to lose his seat as well.
The words racist & islamophobia etc has one purpose- To supress any criticism legitimate or not !. Wanting immigration controlled better is not a racist act because its not a race,i am not a racist,i am not anti immigration. Get it right!

Ps. You are the minority and i bet you dont vote!
[quote][p][bold]Malcolm Tucker[/bold] wrote: I don't always agree with Righteous One/ BWFC71, but he's prepared to stand up and challenge lies and misinformation spread by the racists. He's probably the best informed poster when it comes to issues of race, Europe and migration. As far as UKIP/BNP are concerned. I think their star has waned now, but will probably have a bit of a rally this May at the Euro elections. I expect they will come second to Labour, with the Tories 3rd. They'll take a few seats from the Tories, down south but Labour will make big gains from the Libs (who will hopefully be wiped out) and the Tories. Check the last results in 2009, when Labour did appallingly badly. In council elections, held on the same day, UKIP/BNP wont make much progress up here, but will cause a bit of damage to the Tories down south. If Lever, the cretin does stand in Astley Bridge, where the Tories held it narrowly last time, then I can only suspect that Labour will be rubbing their hands. So go for it Stu! So what will the Tory response be to moderate UKIP/BNP success in the Euros? They will swing to right - that's what. Its happening already with Tory backbenchers. And when they move further to the right, do they think the vast majority of moderate voters will stay with them? No, they will desert them even more than they are doing at present. This is Camerons dilemma which is why he tries to talk the talk of moderation. He knows that no Party wins elections when it deserts the average middle of the road voter. Labour in Bolton are inevitably going to the consolidate their already strong position on the Council, with more gains from the dwindling Tory and Lib Dem numbers. The day after, the BN trolls will be scratching their heads and saying - this time next year we will get rid of Labour, just like they have been saying for all the previous elections. By the way, the other good news is that the fat freeloader Nazi, Nick Griffin is likely to lose his seat as well.[/p][/quote]The words racist & islamophobia etc has one purpose- To supress any criticism legitimate or not !. Wanting immigration controlled better is not a racist act because its not a race,i am not a racist,i am not anti immigration. Get it right! Ps. You are the minority and i bet you dont vote! thomas222

11:15am Wed 22 Jan 14

Malcolm Tucker says...

thomas222 wrote:
Malcolm Tucker wrote:
I don't always agree with Righteous One/ BWFC71, but he's prepared to stand up and challenge lies and misinformation spread by the racists. He's probably the best informed poster when it comes to issues of race, Europe and migration. As far as UKIP/BNP are concerned. I think their star has waned now, but will probably have a bit of a rally this May at the Euro elections. I expect they will come second to Labour, with the Tories 3rd. They'll take a few seats from the Tories, down south but Labour will make big gains from the Libs (who will hopefully be wiped out) and the Tories. Check the last results in 2009, when Labour did appallingly badly. In council elections, held on the same day, UKIP/BNP wont make much progress up here, but will cause a bit of damage to the Tories down south. If Lever, the cretin does stand in Astley Bridge, where the Tories held it narrowly last time, then I can only suspect that Labour will be rubbing their hands. So go for it Stu! So what will the Tory response be to moderate UKIP/BNP success in the Euros? They will swing to right - that's what. Its happening already with Tory backbenchers. And when they move further to the right, do they think the vast majority of moderate voters will stay with them? No, they will desert them even more than they are doing at present. This is Camerons dilemma which is why he tries to talk the talk of moderation. He knows that no Party wins elections when it deserts the average middle of the road voter. Labour in Bolton are inevitably going to the consolidate their already strong position on the Council, with more gains from the dwindling Tory and Lib Dem numbers. The day after, the BN trolls will be scratching their heads and saying - this time next year we will get rid of Labour, just like they have been saying for all the previous elections. By the way, the other good news is that the fat freeloader Nazi, Nick Griffin is likely to lose his seat as well.
The words racist & islamophobia etc has one purpose- To supress any criticism legitimate or not !. Wanting immigration controlled better is not a racist act because its not a race,i am not a racist,i am not anti immigration. Get it right!

Ps. You are the minority and i bet you dont vote!
Oh you don't worry your cotton little socks Tommy, I've never missed a vote yet.

I'm in a minority am I? Well. we'll see about that next May wont we.

Are you that deluded that just because people agree with you in the blogs and forums you visit and the pubs you frequent, that you represent the majority view! Because your world is so small and you live in a little distorted bubble, you genuinely believe that you're in the majority.

Its all good mate. I just love your disappointment when the inevitable electoral failure of the far right hits you square in the face.

Britain has never had an appetite for the far right, from the BUF, to the NF to the EDL to the BNP/UKIP alliance. All failures, and all representing minority views.

Nuff said. Ta ra. gotta go vote ;)
[quote][p][bold]thomas222[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Malcolm Tucker[/bold] wrote: I don't always agree with Righteous One/ BWFC71, but he's prepared to stand up and challenge lies and misinformation spread by the racists. He's probably the best informed poster when it comes to issues of race, Europe and migration. As far as UKIP/BNP are concerned. I think their star has waned now, but will probably have a bit of a rally this May at the Euro elections. I expect they will come second to Labour, with the Tories 3rd. They'll take a few seats from the Tories, down south but Labour will make big gains from the Libs (who will hopefully be wiped out) and the Tories. Check the last results in 2009, when Labour did appallingly badly. In council elections, held on the same day, UKIP/BNP wont make much progress up here, but will cause a bit of damage to the Tories down south. If Lever, the cretin does stand in Astley Bridge, where the Tories held it narrowly last time, then I can only suspect that Labour will be rubbing their hands. So go for it Stu! So what will the Tory response be to moderate UKIP/BNP success in the Euros? They will swing to right - that's what. Its happening already with Tory backbenchers. And when they move further to the right, do they think the vast majority of moderate voters will stay with them? No, they will desert them even more than they are doing at present. This is Camerons dilemma which is why he tries to talk the talk of moderation. He knows that no Party wins elections when it deserts the average middle of the road voter. Labour in Bolton are inevitably going to the consolidate their already strong position on the Council, with more gains from the dwindling Tory and Lib Dem numbers. The day after, the BN trolls will be scratching their heads and saying - this time next year we will get rid of Labour, just like they have been saying for all the previous elections. By the way, the other good news is that the fat freeloader Nazi, Nick Griffin is likely to lose his seat as well.[/p][/quote]The words racist & islamophobia etc has one purpose- To supress any criticism legitimate or not !. Wanting immigration controlled better is not a racist act because its not a race,i am not a racist,i am not anti immigration. Get it right! Ps. You are the minority and i bet you dont vote![/p][/quote]Oh you don't worry your cotton little socks Tommy, I've never missed a vote yet. I'm in a minority am I? Well. we'll see about that next May wont we. Are you that deluded that just because people agree with you in the blogs and forums you visit and the pubs you frequent, that you represent the majority view! Because your world is so small and you live in a little distorted bubble, you genuinely believe that you're in the majority. Its all good mate. I just love your disappointment when the inevitable electoral failure of the far right hits you square in the face. Britain has never had an appetite for the far right, from the BUF, to the NF to the EDL to the BNP/UKIP alliance. All failures, and all representing minority views. Nuff said. Ta ra. gotta go vote ;) Malcolm Tucker

11:20am Wed 22 Jan 14

thomas222 says...

Malcolm Tucker wrote:
thomas222 wrote:
Malcolm Tucker wrote: I don't always agree with Righteous One/ BWFC71, but he's prepared to stand up and challenge lies and misinformation spread by the racists. He's probably the best informed poster when it comes to issues of race, Europe and migration. As far as UKIP/BNP are concerned. I think their star has waned now, but will probably have a bit of a rally this May at the Euro elections. I expect they will come second to Labour, with the Tories 3rd. They'll take a few seats from the Tories, down south but Labour will make big gains from the Libs (who will hopefully be wiped out) and the Tories. Check the last results in 2009, when Labour did appallingly badly. In council elections, held on the same day, UKIP/BNP wont make much progress up here, but will cause a bit of damage to the Tories down south. If Lever, the cretin does stand in Astley Bridge, where the Tories held it narrowly last time, then I can only suspect that Labour will be rubbing their hands. So go for it Stu! So what will the Tory response be to moderate UKIP/BNP success in the Euros? They will swing to right - that's what. Its happening already with Tory backbenchers. And when they move further to the right, do they think the vast majority of moderate voters will stay with them? No, they will desert them even more than they are doing at present. This is Camerons dilemma which is why he tries to talk the talk of moderation. He knows that no Party wins elections when it deserts the average middle of the road voter. Labour in Bolton are inevitably going to the consolidate their already strong position on the Council, with more gains from the dwindling Tory and Lib Dem numbers. The day after, the BN trolls will be scratching their heads and saying - this time next year we will get rid of Labour, just like they have been saying for all the previous elections. By the way, the other good news is that the fat freeloader Nazi, Nick Griffin is likely to lose his seat as well.
The words racist & islamophobia etc has one purpose- To supress any criticism legitimate or not !. Wanting immigration controlled better is not a racist act because its not a race,i am not a racist,i am not anti immigration. Get it right! Ps. You are the minority and i bet you dont vote!
Oh you don't worry your cotton little socks Tommy, I've never missed a vote yet. I'm in a minority am I? Well. we'll see about that next May wont we. Are you that deluded that just because people agree with you in the blogs and forums you visit and the pubs you frequent, that you represent the majority view! Because your world is so small and you live in a little distorted bubble, you genuinely believe that you're in the majority. Its all good mate. I just love your disappointment when the inevitable electoral failure of the far right hits you square in the face. Britain has never had an appetite for the far right, from the BUF, to the NF to the EDL to the BNP/UKIP alliance. All failures, and all representing minority views. Nuff said. Ta ra. gotta go vote ;)
Who are you voting for or would that be to hard to admit too ??. My bubble is 70% of this country your bubble has burst. : )
[quote][p][bold]Malcolm Tucker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomas222[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Malcolm Tucker[/bold] wrote: I don't always agree with Righteous One/ BWFC71, but he's prepared to stand up and challenge lies and misinformation spread by the racists. He's probably the best informed poster when it comes to issues of race, Europe and migration. As far as UKIP/BNP are concerned. I think their star has waned now, but will probably have a bit of a rally this May at the Euro elections. I expect they will come second to Labour, with the Tories 3rd. They'll take a few seats from the Tories, down south but Labour will make big gains from the Libs (who will hopefully be wiped out) and the Tories. Check the last results in 2009, when Labour did appallingly badly. In council elections, held on the same day, UKIP/BNP wont make much progress up here, but will cause a bit of damage to the Tories down south. If Lever, the cretin does stand in Astley Bridge, where the Tories held it narrowly last time, then I can only suspect that Labour will be rubbing their hands. So go for it Stu! So what will the Tory response be to moderate UKIP/BNP success in the Euros? They will swing to right - that's what. Its happening already with Tory backbenchers. And when they move further to the right, do they think the vast majority of moderate voters will stay with them? No, they will desert them even more than they are doing at present. This is Camerons dilemma which is why he tries to talk the talk of moderation. He knows that no Party wins elections when it deserts the average middle of the road voter. Labour in Bolton are inevitably going to the consolidate their already strong position on the Council, with more gains from the dwindling Tory and Lib Dem numbers. The day after, the BN trolls will be scratching their heads and saying - this time next year we will get rid of Labour, just like they have been saying for all the previous elections. By the way, the other good news is that the fat freeloader Nazi, Nick Griffin is likely to lose his seat as well.[/p][/quote]The words racist & islamophobia etc has one purpose- To supress any criticism legitimate or not !. Wanting immigration controlled better is not a racist act because its not a race,i am not a racist,i am not anti immigration. Get it right! Ps. You are the minority and i bet you dont vote![/p][/quote]Oh you don't worry your cotton little socks Tommy, I've never missed a vote yet. I'm in a minority am I? Well. we'll see about that next May wont we. Are you that deluded that just because people agree with you in the blogs and forums you visit and the pubs you frequent, that you represent the majority view! Because your world is so small and you live in a little distorted bubble, you genuinely believe that you're in the majority. Its all good mate. I just love your disappointment when the inevitable electoral failure of the far right hits you square in the face. Britain has never had an appetite for the far right, from the BUF, to the NF to the EDL to the BNP/UKIP alliance. All failures, and all representing minority views. Nuff said. Ta ra. gotta go vote ;)[/p][/quote]Who are you voting for or would that be to hard to admit too ??. My bubble is 70% of this country your bubble has burst. : ) thomas222

12:28pm Wed 22 Jan 14

The Righteous One says...

thomas222 wrote:
Malcolm Tucker wrote:
thomas222 wrote:
Malcolm Tucker wrote: I don't always agree with Righteous One/ BWFC71, but he's prepared to stand up and challenge lies and misinformation spread by the racists. He's probably the best informed poster when it comes to issues of race, Europe and migration. As far as UKIP/BNP are concerned. I think their star has waned now, but will probably have a bit of a rally this May at the Euro elections. I expect they will come second to Labour, with the Tories 3rd. They'll take a few seats from the Tories, down south but Labour will make big gains from the Libs (who will hopefully be wiped out) and the Tories. Check the last results in 2009, when Labour did appallingly badly. In council elections, held on the same day, UKIP/BNP wont make much progress up here, but will cause a bit of damage to the Tories down south. If Lever, the cretin does stand in Astley Bridge, where the Tories held it narrowly last time, then I can only suspect that Labour will be rubbing their hands. So go for it Stu! So what will the Tory response be to moderate UKIP/BNP success in the Euros? They will swing to right - that's what. Its happening already with Tory backbenchers. And when they move further to the right, do they think the vast majority of moderate voters will stay with them? No, they will desert them even more than they are doing at present. This is Camerons dilemma which is why he tries to talk the talk of moderation. He knows that no Party wins elections when it deserts the average middle of the road voter. Labour in Bolton are inevitably going to the consolidate their already strong position on the Council, with more gains from the dwindling Tory and Lib Dem numbers. The day after, the BN trolls will be scratching their heads and saying - this time next year we will get rid of Labour, just like they have been saying for all the previous elections. By the way, the other good news is that the fat freeloader Nazi, Nick Griffin is likely to lose his seat as well.
The words racist & islamophobia etc has one purpose- To supress any criticism legitimate or not !. Wanting immigration controlled better is not a racist act because its not a race,i am not a racist,i am not anti immigration. Get it right! Ps. You are the minority and i bet you dont vote!
Oh you don't worry your cotton little socks Tommy, I've never missed a vote yet. I'm in a minority am I? Well. we'll see about that next May wont we. Are you that deluded that just because people agree with you in the blogs and forums you visit and the pubs you frequent, that you represent the majority view! Because your world is so small and you live in a little distorted bubble, you genuinely believe that you're in the majority. Its all good mate. I just love your disappointment when the inevitable electoral failure of the far right hits you square in the face. Britain has never had an appetite for the far right, from the BUF, to the NF to the EDL to the BNP/UKIP alliance. All failures, and all representing minority views. Nuff said. Ta ra. gotta go vote ;)
Who are you voting for or would that be to hard to admit too ??. My bubble is 70% of this country your bubble has burst. : )
Nope your bubble is about onlt 12% of teh country whilst the other 88% of that 70% are actually worried about integration and NOT immigration - two completely different things.

You were asked earlier, by someone lese, and you have not yet answered so I will ask again.... How many people were polled?

Yet again, as you do not understand teh concept of the Queens English language - at this moment in time I am taking up my right, as directed under the British Constitution, not to vote for anyone due to the fact that I would be wasting my vote as none of the political partries are aligned to the majority of my beliefs.
[quote][p][bold]thomas222[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Malcolm Tucker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomas222[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Malcolm Tucker[/bold] wrote: I don't always agree with Righteous One/ BWFC71, but he's prepared to stand up and challenge lies and misinformation spread by the racists. He's probably the best informed poster when it comes to issues of race, Europe and migration. As far as UKIP/BNP are concerned. I think their star has waned now, but will probably have a bit of a rally this May at the Euro elections. I expect they will come second to Labour, with the Tories 3rd. They'll take a few seats from the Tories, down south but Labour will make big gains from the Libs (who will hopefully be wiped out) and the Tories. Check the last results in 2009, when Labour did appallingly badly. In council elections, held on the same day, UKIP/BNP wont make much progress up here, but will cause a bit of damage to the Tories down south. If Lever, the cretin does stand in Astley Bridge, where the Tories held it narrowly last time, then I can only suspect that Labour will be rubbing their hands. So go for it Stu! So what will the Tory response be to moderate UKIP/BNP success in the Euros? They will swing to right - that's what. Its happening already with Tory backbenchers. And when they move further to the right, do they think the vast majority of moderate voters will stay with them? No, they will desert them even more than they are doing at present. This is Camerons dilemma which is why he tries to talk the talk of moderation. He knows that no Party wins elections when it deserts the average middle of the road voter. Labour in Bolton are inevitably going to the consolidate their already strong position on the Council, with more gains from the dwindling Tory and Lib Dem numbers. The day after, the BN trolls will be scratching their heads and saying - this time next year we will get rid of Labour, just like they have been saying for all the previous elections. By the way, the other good news is that the fat freeloader Nazi, Nick Griffin is likely to lose his seat as well.[/p][/quote]The words racist & islamophobia etc has one purpose- To supress any criticism legitimate or not !. Wanting immigration controlled better is not a racist act because its not a race,i am not a racist,i am not anti immigration. Get it right! Ps. You are the minority and i bet you dont vote![/p][/quote]Oh you don't worry your cotton little socks Tommy, I've never missed a vote yet. I'm in a minority am I? Well. we'll see about that next May wont we. Are you that deluded that just because people agree with you in the blogs and forums you visit and the pubs you frequent, that you represent the majority view! Because your world is so small and you live in a little distorted bubble, you genuinely believe that you're in the majority. Its all good mate. I just love your disappointment when the inevitable electoral failure of the far right hits you square in the face. Britain has never had an appetite for the far right, from the BUF, to the NF to the EDL to the BNP/UKIP alliance. All failures, and all representing minority views. Nuff said. Ta ra. gotta go vote ;)[/p][/quote]Who are you voting for or would that be to hard to admit too ??. My bubble is 70% of this country your bubble has burst. : )[/p][/quote]Nope your bubble is about onlt 12% of teh country whilst the other 88% of that 70% are actually worried about integration and NOT immigration - two completely different things. You were asked earlier, by someone lese, and you have not yet answered so I will ask again.... How many people were polled? Yet again, as you do not understand teh concept of the Queens English language - at this moment in time I am taking up my right, as directed under the British Constitution, not to vote for anyone due to the fact that I would be wasting my vote as none of the political partries are aligned to the majority of my beliefs. The Righteous One

12:38pm Wed 22 Jan 14

The Righteous One says...

Thomas

Yet again I notice that you have avoided ALL my questions so here they are again, and lets see if YOU can answer them, this time..... (and remember that I have answered yours so you have no comeback for NOT answering!)

1. When was the first Muslim in the UK?
2. So where do you stand with regards to the IRA (Roman Catholics v Protestants - but all Christian)?
3. Where are YOUR Romanians and Bulgarians which you said would be here by now?

Now there is no crying to say that I have not asked these before because all I have done is copied and pasted from my earlier posts. And your answers are.....
Thomas Yet again I notice that you have avoided ALL my questions so here they are again, and lets see if YOU can answer them, this time..... (and remember that I have answered yours so you have no comeback for NOT answering!) 1. When was the first Muslim in the UK? 2. So where do you stand with regards to the IRA (Roman Catholics v Protestants - but all Christian)? 3. Where are YOUR Romanians and Bulgarians which you said would be here by now? Now there is no crying to say that I have not asked these before because all I have done is copied and pasted from my earlier posts. And your answers are..... The Righteous One

12:46pm Wed 22 Jan 14

thomas222 says...

The Righteous One wrote:
thomas222 wrote:
Malcolm Tucker wrote:
thomas222 wrote:
Malcolm Tucker wrote: I don't always agree with Righteous One/ BWFC71, but he's prepared to stand up and challenge lies and misinformation spread by the racists. He's probably the best informed poster when it comes to issues of race, Europe and migration. As far as UKIP/BNP are concerned. I think their star has waned now, but will probably have a bit of a rally this May at the Euro elections. I expect they will come second to Labour, with the Tories 3rd. They'll take a few seats from the Tories, down south but Labour will make big gains from the Libs (who will hopefully be wiped out) and the Tories. Check the last results in 2009, when Labour did appallingly badly. In council elections, held on the same day, UKIP/BNP wont make much progress up here, but will cause a bit of damage to the Tories down south. If Lever, the cretin does stand in Astley Bridge, where the Tories held it narrowly last time, then I can only suspect that Labour will be rubbing their hands. So go for it Stu! So what will the Tory response be to moderate UKIP/BNP success in the Euros? They will swing to right - that's what. Its happening already with Tory backbenchers. And when they move further to the right, do they think the vast majority of moderate voters will stay with them? No, they will desert them even more than they are doing at present. This is Camerons dilemma which is why he tries to talk the talk of moderation. He knows that no Party wins elections when it deserts the average middle of the road voter. Labour in Bolton are inevitably going to the consolidate their already strong position on the Council, with more gains from the dwindling Tory and Lib Dem numbers. The day after, the BN trolls will be scratching their heads and saying - this time next year we will get rid of Labour, just like they have been saying for all the previous elections. By the way, the other good news is that the fat freeloader Nazi, Nick Griffin is likely to lose his seat as well.
The words racist & islamophobia etc has one purpose- To supress any criticism legitimate or not !. Wanting immigration controlled better is not a racist act because its not a race,i am not a racist,i am not anti immigration. Get it right! Ps. You are the minority and i bet you dont vote!
Oh you don't worry your cotton little socks Tommy, I've never missed a vote yet. I'm in a minority am I? Well. we'll see about that next May wont we. Are you that deluded that just because people agree with you in the blogs and forums you visit and the pubs you frequent, that you represent the majority view! Because your world is so small and you live in a little distorted bubble, you genuinely believe that you're in the majority. Its all good mate. I just love your disappointment when the inevitable electoral failure of the far right hits you square in the face. Britain has never had an appetite for the far right, from the BUF, to the NF to the EDL to the BNP/UKIP alliance. All failures, and all representing minority views. Nuff said. Ta ra. gotta go vote ;)
Who are you voting for or would that be to hard to admit too ??. My bubble is 70% of this country your bubble has burst. : )
Nope your bubble is about onlt 12% of teh country whilst the other 88% of that 70% are actually worried about integration and NOT immigration - two completely different things. You were asked earlier, by someone lese, and you have not yet answered so I will ask again.... How many people were polled? Yet again, as you do not understand teh concept of the Queens English language - at this moment in time I am taking up my right, as directed under the British Constitution, not to vote for anyone due to the fact that I would be wasting my vote as none of the political partries are aligned to the majority of my beliefs.
Thats all ok then you have nothing to worry about then do you. But you are worried because you know i know and everyone knows UKIP are going to do very well regardless of idiots like you trying to belittle them with racist slurs because the more they are belittled the more members they get. People have had enough not being listened to and the sleeping lion has awoken and is starting to roar. British people are the most giving in the world but push them to far as has happened they will reply with a vengence the like you have never seen. Never confuse kindness with stupidity you will get a shock.... you dont vote so have no voice. : )
[quote][p][bold]The Righteous One[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomas222[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Malcolm Tucker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomas222[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Malcolm Tucker[/bold] wrote: I don't always agree with Righteous One/ BWFC71, but he's prepared to stand up and challenge lies and misinformation spread by the racists. He's probably the best informed poster when it comes to issues of race, Europe and migration. As far as UKIP/BNP are concerned. I think their star has waned now, but will probably have a bit of a rally this May at the Euro elections. I expect they will come second to Labour, with the Tories 3rd. They'll take a few seats from the Tories, down south but Labour will make big gains from the Libs (who will hopefully be wiped out) and the Tories. Check the last results in 2009, when Labour did appallingly badly. In council elections, held on the same day, UKIP/BNP wont make much progress up here, but will cause a bit of damage to the Tories down south. If Lever, the cretin does stand in Astley Bridge, where the Tories held it narrowly last time, then I can only suspect that Labour will be rubbing their hands. So go for it Stu! So what will the Tory response be to moderate UKIP/BNP success in the Euros? They will swing to right - that's what. Its happening already with Tory backbenchers. And when they move further to the right, do they think the vast majority of moderate voters will stay with them? No, they will desert them even more than they are doing at present. This is Camerons dilemma which is why he tries to talk the talk of moderation. He knows that no Party wins elections when it deserts the average middle of the road voter. Labour in Bolton are inevitably going to the consolidate their already strong position on the Council, with more gains from the dwindling Tory and Lib Dem numbers. The day after, the BN trolls will be scratching their heads and saying - this time next year we will get rid of Labour, just like they have been saying for all the previous elections. By the way, the other good news is that the fat freeloader Nazi, Nick Griffin is likely to lose his seat as well.[/p][/quote]The words racist & islamophobia etc has one purpose- To supress any criticism legitimate or not !. Wanting immigration controlled better is not a racist act because its not a race,i am not a racist,i am not anti immigration. Get it right! Ps. You are the minority and i bet you dont vote![/p][/quote]Oh you don't worry your cotton little socks Tommy, I've never missed a vote yet. I'm in a minority am I? Well. we'll see about that next May wont we. Are you that deluded that just because people agree with you in the blogs and forums you visit and the pubs you frequent, that you represent the majority view! Because your world is so small and you live in a little distorted bubble, you genuinely believe that you're in the majority. Its all good mate. I just love your disappointment when the inevitable electoral failure of the far right hits you square in the face. Britain has never had an appetite for the far right, from the BUF, to the NF to the EDL to the BNP/UKIP alliance. All failures, and all representing minority views. Nuff said. Ta ra. gotta go vote ;)[/p][/quote]Who are you voting for or would that be to hard to admit too ??. My bubble is 70% of this country your bubble has burst. : )[/p][/quote]Nope your bubble is about onlt 12% of teh country whilst the other 88% of that 70% are actually worried about integration and NOT immigration - two completely different things. You were asked earlier, by someone lese, and you have not yet answered so I will ask again.... How many people were polled? Yet again, as you do not understand teh concept of the Queens English language - at this moment in time I am taking up my right, as directed under the British Constitution, not to vote for anyone due to the fact that I would be wasting my vote as none of the political partries are aligned to the majority of my beliefs.[/p][/quote]Thats all ok then you have nothing to worry about then do you. But you are worried because you know i know and everyone knows UKIP are going to do very well regardless of idiots like you trying to belittle them with racist slurs because the more they are belittled the more members they get. People have had enough not being listened to and the sleeping lion has awoken and is starting to roar. British people are the most giving in the world but push them to far as has happened they will reply with a vengence the like you have never seen. Never confuse kindness with stupidity you will get a shock.... you dont vote so have no voice. : ) thomas222

12:55pm Wed 22 Jan 14

thomas222 says...

The Righteous One wrote:
Thomas Yet again I notice that you have avoided ALL my questions so here they are again, and lets see if YOU can answer them, this time..... (and remember that I have answered yours so you have no comeback for NOT answering!) 1. When was the first Muslim in the UK? 2. So where do you stand with regards to the IRA (Roman Catholics v Protestants - but all Christian)? 3. Where are YOUR Romanians and Bulgarians which you said would be here by now? Now there is no crying to say that I have not asked these before because all I have done is copied and pasted from my earlier posts. And your answers are.....
What has any of that have do with this report. By the way its a bit rich you who dont vote telling me to vote whats best for the country and not the best for ukip. Now i know your a closet racist fruit cake and loonie. : )
[quote][p][bold]The Righteous One[/bold] wrote: Thomas Yet again I notice that you have avoided ALL my questions so here they are again, and lets see if YOU can answer them, this time..... (and remember that I have answered yours so you have no comeback for NOT answering!) 1. When was the first Muslim in the UK? 2. So where do you stand with regards to the IRA (Roman Catholics v Protestants - but all Christian)? 3. Where are YOUR Romanians and Bulgarians which you said would be here by now? Now there is no crying to say that I have not asked these before because all I have done is copied and pasted from my earlier posts. And your answers are.....[/p][/quote]What has any of that have do with this report. By the way its a bit rich you who dont vote telling me to vote whats best for the country and not the best for ukip. Now i know your a closet racist fruit cake and loonie. : ) thomas222

12:55pm Wed 22 Jan 14

The Righteous One says...

Belitte????

Fact or fiction (evidence taken from the UKIP website) - Party members has fallen from almost 40,000 in June 2013 to just under 32,500 in December 2013?

Fact or fiction - in the last council by-election in Bolton, although UKIP overtook The LibDems, the Conservatives actually extended their share of the vote?

Yet again you have not provided the information that more than 1 person has requested from you - How many people were polled? and what was teh EXACT question?

Is that to hard a question for you to answer?

What racist slurs have I come out with with regards to UKIP? - err NONE!!!! It was actually you that was talking about racism and actually mentioned the Muslim/islam population first and no one else!!!


Once again, answer these question for which you have NOT yet answered....

1. When was the first Muslim in the UK?
2. So where do you stand with regards to the IRA (Roman Catholics v Protestants - but all Christian)?
3. Where are YOUR Romanians and Bulgarians which you said would be here by now?
Belitte???? Fact or fiction (evidence taken from the UKIP website) - Party members has fallen from almost 40,000 in June 2013 to just under 32,500 in December 2013? Fact or fiction - in the last council by-election in Bolton, although UKIP overtook The LibDems, the Conservatives actually extended their share of the vote? Yet again you have not provided the information that more than 1 person has requested from you - How many people were polled? and what was teh EXACT question? Is that to hard a question for you to answer? What racist slurs have I come out with with regards to UKIP? - err NONE!!!! It was actually you that was talking about racism and actually mentioned the Muslim/islam population first and no one else!!! Once again, answer these question for which you have NOT yet answered.... 1. When was the first Muslim in the UK? 2. So where do you stand with regards to the IRA (Roman Catholics v Protestants - but all Christian)? 3. Where are YOUR Romanians and Bulgarians which you said would be here by now? The Righteous One

12:59pm Wed 22 Jan 14

The Righteous One says...

thomas222 wrote:
The Righteous One wrote:
Thomas Yet again I notice that you have avoided ALL my questions so here they are again, and lets see if YOU can answer them, this time..... (and remember that I have answered yours so you have no comeback for NOT answering!) 1. When was the first Muslim in the UK? 2. So where do you stand with regards to the IRA (Roman Catholics v Protestants - but all Christian)? 3. Where are YOUR Romanians and Bulgarians which you said would be here by now? Now there is no crying to say that I have not asked these before because all I have done is copied and pasted from my earlier posts. And your answers are.....
What has any of that have do with this report. By the way its a bit rich you who dont vote telling me to vote whats best for the country and not the best for ukip. Now i know your a closet racist fruit cake and loonie. : )
How am I a closet racist?

Please explain - considering I give a fair share of intellect to all religions and races and have not yet blasted any sect of the population - unlike YOU!

Fruit-cake and loonie, just because I believe that none of the parties policies are in line with the majority of my own beliefs!!!

How mad is that?

And as for the questions posed - It was in retirn for the question you posed to me, for which I answered - and it was," Stop having a paddy and face facts... you and your mates call me and ukip racist but all i see on AJ is Muslims all over the world slaughtering with truly awful crimes against each other. How does that work then ?" Or did you forget that you asked that question (now that wouldn't surprise me!)

Now again I ask the question....

1. When was the first Muslim in the UK?
2. So where do you stand with regards to the IRA (Roman Catholics v Protestants - but all Christian)?
3. Where are YOUR Romanians and Bulgarians which you said would be here by now?
[quote][p][bold]thomas222[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Righteous One[/bold] wrote: Thomas Yet again I notice that you have avoided ALL my questions so here they are again, and lets see if YOU can answer them, this time..... (and remember that I have answered yours so you have no comeback for NOT answering!) 1. When was the first Muslim in the UK? 2. So where do you stand with regards to the IRA (Roman Catholics v Protestants - but all Christian)? 3. Where are YOUR Romanians and Bulgarians which you said would be here by now? Now there is no crying to say that I have not asked these before because all I have done is copied and pasted from my earlier posts. And your answers are.....[/p][/quote]What has any of that have do with this report. By the way its a bit rich you who dont vote telling me to vote whats best for the country and not the best for ukip. Now i know your a closet racist fruit cake and loonie. : )[/p][/quote]How am I a closet racist? Please explain - considering I give a fair share of intellect to all religions and races and have not yet blasted any sect of the population - unlike YOU! Fruit-cake and loonie, just because I believe that none of the parties policies are in line with the majority of my own beliefs!!! How mad is that? And as for the questions posed - It was in retirn for the question you posed to me, for which I answered - and it was," Stop having a paddy and face facts... you and your mates call me and ukip racist but all i see on AJ is Muslims all over the world slaughtering with truly awful crimes against each other. How does that work then ?" Or did you forget that you asked that question (now that wouldn't surprise me!) Now again I ask the question.... 1. When was the first Muslim in the UK? 2. So where do you stand with regards to the IRA (Roman Catholics v Protestants - but all Christian)? 3. Where are YOUR Romanians and Bulgarians which you said would be here by now? The Righteous One

1:04pm Wed 22 Jan 14

thomas222 says...

The Righteous One wrote:
Belitte???? Fact or fiction (evidence taken from the UKIP website) - Party members has fallen from almost 40,000 in June 2013 to just under 32,500 in December 2013? Fact or fiction - in the last council by-election in Bolton, although UKIP overtook The LibDems, the Conservatives actually extended their share of the vote? Yet again you have not provided the information that more than 1 person has requested from you - How many people were polled? and what was teh EXACT question? Is that to hard a question for you to answer? What racist slurs have I come out with with regards to UKIP? - err NONE!!!! It was actually you that was talking about racism and actually mentioned the Muslim/islam population first and no one else!!! Once again, answer these question for which you have NOT yet answered.... 1. When was the first Muslim in the UK? 2. So where do you stand with regards to the IRA (Roman Catholics v Protestants - but all Christian)? 3. Where are YOUR Romanians and Bulgarians which you said would be here by now?
I dont think about what if and when things i live in the now life. You dont vote so dont have a voice. You believe what you do so do i... We are now getting close to finding out who is right at last. Your kind are old news.
[quote][p][bold]The Righteous One[/bold] wrote: Belitte???? Fact or fiction (evidence taken from the UKIP website) - Party members has fallen from almost 40,000 in June 2013 to just under 32,500 in December 2013? Fact or fiction - in the last council by-election in Bolton, although UKIP overtook The LibDems, the Conservatives actually extended their share of the vote? Yet again you have not provided the information that more than 1 person has requested from you - How many people were polled? and what was teh EXACT question? Is that to hard a question for you to answer? What racist slurs have I come out with with regards to UKIP? - err NONE!!!! It was actually you that was talking about racism and actually mentioned the Muslim/islam population first and no one else!!! Once again, answer these question for which you have NOT yet answered.... 1. When was the first Muslim in the UK? 2. So where do you stand with regards to the IRA (Roman Catholics v Protestants - but all Christian)? 3. Where are YOUR Romanians and Bulgarians which you said would be here by now?[/p][/quote]I dont think about what if and when things i live in the now life. You dont vote so dont have a voice. You believe what you do so do i... We are now getting close to finding out who is right at last. Your kind are old news. thomas222

1:07pm Wed 22 Jan 14

The Righteous One says...

thomas222 wrote:
The Righteous One wrote:
thomas222 wrote:
Malcolm Tucker wrote:
thomas222 wrote:
Malcolm Tucker wrote: I don't always agree with Righteous One/ BWFC71, but he's prepared to stand up and challenge lies and misinformation spread by the racists. He's probably the best informed poster when it comes to issues of race, Europe and migration. As far as UKIP/BNP are concerned. I think their star has waned now, but will probably have a bit of a rally this May at the Euro elections. I expect they will come second to Labour, with the Tories 3rd. They'll take a few seats from the Tories, down south but Labour will make big gains from the Libs (who will hopefully be wiped out) and the Tories. Check the last results in 2009, when Labour did appallingly badly. In council elections, held on the same day, UKIP/BNP wont make much progress up here, but will cause a bit of damage to the Tories down south. If Lever, the cretin does stand in Astley Bridge, where the Tories held it narrowly last time, then I can only suspect that Labour will be rubbing their hands. So go for it Stu! So what will the Tory response be to moderate UKIP/BNP success in the Euros? They will swing to right - that's what. Its happening already with Tory backbenchers. And when they move further to the right, do they think the vast majority of moderate voters will stay with them? No, they will desert them even more than they are doing at present. This is Camerons dilemma which is why he tries to talk the talk of moderation. He knows that no Party wins elections when it deserts the average middle of the road voter. Labour in Bolton are inevitably going to the consolidate their already strong position on the Council, with more gains from the dwindling Tory and Lib Dem numbers. The day after, the BN trolls will be scratching their heads and saying - this time next year we will get rid of Labour, just like they have been saying for all the previous elections. By the way, the other good news is that the fat freeloader Nazi, Nick Griffin is likely to lose his seat as well.
The words racist & islamophobia etc has one purpose- To supress any criticism legitimate or not !. Wanting immigration controlled better is not a racist act because its not a race,i am not a racist,i am not anti immigration. Get it right! Ps. You are the minority and i bet you dont vote!
Oh you don't worry your cotton little socks Tommy, I've never missed a vote yet. I'm in a minority am I? Well. we'll see about that next May wont we. Are you that deluded that just because people agree with you in the blogs and forums you visit and the pubs you frequent, that you represent the majority view! Because your world is so small and you live in a little distorted bubble, you genuinely believe that you're in the majority. Its all good mate. I just love your disappointment when the inevitable electoral failure of the far right hits you square in the face. Britain has never had an appetite for the far right, from the BUF, to the NF to the EDL to the BNP/UKIP alliance. All failures, and all representing minority views. Nuff said. Ta ra. gotta go vote ;)
Who are you voting for or would that be to hard to admit too ??. My bubble is 70% of this country your bubble has burst. : )
Nope your bubble is about onlt 12% of teh country whilst the other 88% of that 70% are actually worried about integration and NOT immigration - two completely different things. You were asked earlier, by someone lese, and you have not yet answered so I will ask again.... How many people were polled? Yet again, as you do not understand teh concept of the Queens English language - at this moment in time I am taking up my right, as directed under the British Constitution, not to vote for anyone due to the fact that I would be wasting my vote as none of the political partries are aligned to the majority of my beliefs.
Thats all ok then you have nothing to worry about then do you. But you are worried because you know i know and everyone knows UKIP are going to do very well regardless of idiots like you trying to belittle them with racist slurs because the more they are belittled the more members they get. People have had enough not being listened to and the sleeping lion has awoken and is starting to roar. British people are the most giving in the world but push them to far as has happened they will reply with a vengence the like you have never seen. Never confuse kindness with stupidity you will get a shock.... you dont vote so have no voice. : )
Incorrect!!!

Under the British Constitution the Right To Express and the Right To Vote are NOT linked - how many times do you have to be educated about that?
Therefore the right to note vote does not mean I don't have teh right to express!

Also you have to remember that there is no such thing as Freedom of speech - it is the Right to express and it has laws which have to be adhered to.

Considering you call yourself a "true British person" why is it you don't know the British Constitution?
[quote][p][bold]thomas222[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Righteous One[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomas222[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Malcolm Tucker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomas222[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Malcolm Tucker[/bold] wrote: I don't always agree with Righteous One/ BWFC71, but he's prepared to stand up and challenge lies and misinformation spread by the racists. He's probably the best informed poster when it comes to issues of race, Europe and migration. As far as UKIP/BNP are concerned. I think their star has waned now, but will probably have a bit of a rally this May at the Euro elections. I expect they will come second to Labour, with the Tories 3rd. They'll take a few seats from the Tories, down south but Labour will make big gains from the Libs (who will hopefully be wiped out) and the Tories. Check the last results in 2009, when Labour did appallingly badly. In council elections, held on the same day, UKIP/BNP wont make much progress up here, but will cause a bit of damage to the Tories down south. If Lever, the cretin does stand in Astley Bridge, where the Tories held it narrowly last time, then I can only suspect that Labour will be rubbing their hands. So go for it Stu! So what will the Tory response be to moderate UKIP/BNP success in the Euros? They will swing to right - that's what. Its happening already with Tory backbenchers. And when they move further to the right, do they think the vast majority of moderate voters will stay with them? No, they will desert them even more than they are doing at present. This is Camerons dilemma which is why he tries to talk the talk of moderation. He knows that no Party wins elections when it deserts the average middle of the road voter. Labour in Bolton are inevitably going to the consolidate their already strong position on the Council, with more gains from the dwindling Tory and Lib Dem numbers. The day after, the BN trolls will be scratching their heads and saying - this time next year we will get rid of Labour, just like they have been saying for all the previous elections. By the way, the other good news is that the fat freeloader Nazi, Nick Griffin is likely to lose his seat as well.[/p][/quote]The words racist & islamophobia etc has one purpose- To supress any criticism legitimate or not !. Wanting immigration controlled better is not a racist act because its not a race,i am not a racist,i am not anti immigration. Get it right! Ps. You are the minority and i bet you dont vote![/p][/quote]Oh you don't worry your cotton little socks Tommy, I've never missed a vote yet. I'm in a minority am I? Well. we'll see about that next May wont we. Are you that deluded that just because people agree with you in the blogs and forums you visit and the pubs you frequent, that you represent the majority view! Because your world is so small and you live in a little distorted bubble, you genuinely believe that you're in the majority. Its all good mate. I just love your disappointment when the inevitable electoral failure of the far right hits you square in the face. Britain has never had an appetite for the far right, from the BUF, to the NF to the EDL to the BNP/UKIP alliance. All failures, and all representing minority views. Nuff said. Ta ra. gotta go vote ;)[/p][/quote]Who are you voting for or would that be to hard to admit too ??. My bubble is 70% of this country your bubble has burst. : )[/p][/quote]Nope your bubble is about onlt 12% of teh country whilst the other 88% of that 70% are actually worried about integration and NOT immigration - two completely different things. You were asked earlier, by someone lese, and you have not yet answered so I will ask again.... How many people were polled? Yet again, as you do not understand teh concept of the Queens English language - at this moment in time I am taking up my right, as directed under the British Constitution, not to vote for anyone due to the fact that I would be wasting my vote as none of the political partries are aligned to the majority of my beliefs.[/p][/quote]Thats all ok then you have nothing to worry about then do you. But you are worried because you know i know and everyone knows UKIP are going to do very well regardless of idiots like you trying to belittle them with racist slurs because the more they are belittled the more members they get. People have had enough not being listened to and the sleeping lion has awoken and is starting to roar. British people are the most giving in the world but push them to far as has happened they will reply with a vengence the like you have never seen. Never confuse kindness with stupidity you will get a shock.... you dont vote so have no voice. : )[/p][/quote]Incorrect!!! Under the British Constitution the Right To Express and the Right To Vote are NOT linked - how many times do you have to be educated about that? Therefore the right to note vote does not mean I don't have teh right to express! Also you have to remember that there is no such thing as Freedom of speech - it is the Right to express and it has laws which have to be adhered to. Considering you call yourself a "true British person" why is it you don't know the British Constitution? The Righteous One

1:10pm Wed 22 Jan 14

The Righteous One says...

thomas222 wrote:
The Righteous One wrote:
Belitte???? Fact or fiction (evidence taken from the UKIP website) - Party members has fallen from almost 40,000 in June 2013 to just under 32,500 in December 2013? Fact or fiction - in the last council by-election in Bolton, although UKIP overtook The LibDems, the Conservatives actually extended their share of the vote? Yet again you have not provided the information that more than 1 person has requested from you - How many people were polled? and what was teh EXACT question? Is that to hard a question for you to answer? What racist slurs have I come out with with regards to UKIP? - err NONE!!!! It was actually you that was talking about racism and actually mentioned the Muslim/islam population first and no one else!!! Once again, answer these question for which you have NOT yet answered.... 1. When was the first Muslim in the UK? 2. So where do you stand with regards to the IRA (Roman Catholics v Protestants - but all Christian)? 3. Where are YOUR Romanians and Bulgarians which you said would be here by now?
I dont think about what if and when things i live in the now life. You dont vote so dont have a voice. You believe what you do so do i... We are now getting close to finding out who is right at last. Your kind are old news.
Once again I have to point out....

Under the British Constitution the Right To Express and the Right To Vote are NOT linked - how many times do you have to be educated about that?
Therefore the right to note vote does not mean I don't have teh right to express!

Also you have to remember that there is no such thing as Freedom of speech - it is the Right to express and it has laws which have to be adhered to.

Considering you call yourself a "true British person" why is it you don't know the British Constitution?



WHAY ARE YOU SO FRIGHTENED IN ANSWERING 3 EASY QUESTIONS WHICH ARE NOT ACTUALLY WHAT-IF QUESTIONS BUT ACTUALLY FACTUIALLY CORRECT QUESTIONS! Or is it because you arer so ignorant and uneducated that you do not know the answe, or do you want Nigel Farrage to answer for you - and he is your mouthpiece and he guides your thoughts!

Therefore once again I ask:-

Fact or fiction (evidence taken from the UKIP website) - Party members has fallen from almost 40,000 in June 2013 to just under 32,500 in December 2013?

Fact or fiction - in the last council by-election in Bolton, although UKIP overtook The LibDems, the Conservatives actually extended their share of the vote?

When was the first Muslim in the UK?

So where do you stand with regards to the IRA (Roman Catholics v Protestants - but all Christian)?

Where are YOUR Romanians and Bulgarians which you said would be here by now?

There is not one "what-if" question there. I do understand English is difficult for you but this is plain and simple English language for you - and probably for every "the Sun" reader"!
[quote][p][bold]thomas222[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Righteous One[/bold] wrote: Belitte???? Fact or fiction (evidence taken from the UKIP website) - Party members has fallen from almost 40,000 in June 2013 to just under 32,500 in December 2013? Fact or fiction - in the last council by-election in Bolton, although UKIP overtook The LibDems, the Conservatives actually extended their share of the vote? Yet again you have not provided the information that more than 1 person has requested from you - How many people were polled? and what was teh EXACT question? Is that to hard a question for you to answer? What racist slurs have I come out with with regards to UKIP? - err NONE!!!! It was actually you that was talking about racism and actually mentioned the Muslim/islam population first and no one else!!! Once again, answer these question for which you have NOT yet answered.... 1. When was the first Muslim in the UK? 2. So where do you stand with regards to the IRA (Roman Catholics v Protestants - but all Christian)? 3. Where are YOUR Romanians and Bulgarians which you said would be here by now?[/p][/quote]I dont think about what if and when things i live in the now life. You dont vote so dont have a voice. You believe what you do so do i... We are now getting close to finding out who is right at last. Your kind are old news.[/p][/quote]Once again I have to point out.... Under the British Constitution the Right To Express and the Right To Vote are NOT linked - how many times do you have to be educated about that? Therefore the right to note vote does not mean I don't have teh right to express! Also you have to remember that there is no such thing as Freedom of speech - it is the Right to express and it has laws which have to be adhered to. Considering you call yourself a "true British person" why is it you don't know the British Constitution? WHAY ARE YOU SO FRIGHTENED IN ANSWERING 3 EASY QUESTIONS WHICH ARE NOT ACTUALLY WHAT-IF QUESTIONS BUT ACTUALLY FACTUIALLY CORRECT QUESTIONS! Or is it because you arer so ignorant and uneducated that you do not know the answe, or do you want Nigel Farrage to answer for you - and he is your mouthpiece and he guides your thoughts! Therefore once again I ask:- Fact or fiction (evidence taken from the UKIP website) - Party members has fallen from almost 40,000 in June 2013 to just under 32,500 in December 2013? Fact or fiction - in the last council by-election in Bolton, although UKIP overtook The LibDems, the Conservatives actually extended their share of the vote? When was the first Muslim in the UK? So where do you stand with regards to the IRA (Roman Catholics v Protestants - but all Christian)? Where are YOUR Romanians and Bulgarians which you said would be here by now? There is not one "what-if" question there. I do understand English is difficult for you but this is plain and simple English language for you - and probably for every "the Sun" reader"! The Righteous One

1:46pm Wed 22 Jan 14

thomas222 says...

The Righteous One wrote:
thomas222 wrote:
The Righteous One wrote: Belitte???? Fact or fiction (evidence taken from the UKIP website) - Party members has fallen from almost 40,000 in June 2013 to just under 32,500 in December 2013? Fact or fiction - in the last council by-election in Bolton, although UKIP overtook The LibDems, the Conservatives actually extended their share of the vote? Yet again you have not provided the information that more than 1 person has requested from you - How many people were polled? and what was teh EXACT question? Is that to hard a question for you to answer? What racist slurs have I come out with with regards to UKIP? - err NONE!!!! It was actually you that was talking about racism and actually mentioned the Muslim/islam population first and no one else!!! Once again, answer these question for which you have NOT yet answered.... 1. When was the first Muslim in the UK? 2. So where do you stand with regards to the IRA (Roman Catholics v Protestants - but all Christian)? 3. Where are YOUR Romanians and Bulgarians which you said would be here by now?
I dont think about what if and when things i live in the now life. You dont vote so dont have a voice. You believe what you do so do i... We are now getting close to finding out who is right at last. Your kind are old news.
Once again I have to point out.... Under the British Constitution the Right To Express and the Right To Vote are NOT linked - how many times do you have to be educated about that? Therefore the right to note vote does not mean I don't have teh right to express! Also you have to remember that there is no such thing as Freedom of speech - it is the Right to express and it has laws which have to be adhered to. Considering you call yourself a "true British person" why is it you don't know the British Constitution? WHAY ARE YOU SO FRIGHTENED IN ANSWERING 3 EASY QUESTIONS WHICH ARE NOT ACTUALLY WHAT-IF QUESTIONS BUT ACTUALLY FACTUIALLY CORRECT QUESTIONS! Or is it because you arer so ignorant and uneducated that you do not know the answe, or do you want Nigel Farrage to answer for you - and he is your mouthpiece and he guides your thoughts! Therefore once again I ask:- Fact or fiction (evidence taken from the UKIP website) - Party members has fallen from almost 40,000 in June 2013 to just under 32,500 in December 2013? Fact or fiction - in the last council by-election in Bolton, although UKIP overtook The LibDems, the Conservatives actually extended their share of the vote? When was the first Muslim in the UK? So where do you stand with regards to the IRA (Roman Catholics v Protestants - but all Christian)? Where are YOUR Romanians and Bulgarians which you said would be here by now? There is not one "what-if" question there. I do understand English is difficult for you but this is plain and simple English language for you - and probably for every "the Sun" reader"!
The questions you ask mean nothing about this issue so im using my right to express to say to you that you talk rubbish. If UKIP isnt as popular as you say then why the hell are you so worked up and vocal against them all the time. The right is getting more acceptable and more mains Stream all over Europe. The rise of the right is not the fault of the right its the fault of the left wing governments policy,s that have failed very badly.
[quote][p][bold]The Righteous One[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomas222[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Righteous One[/bold] wrote: Belitte???? Fact or fiction (evidence taken from the UKIP website) - Party members has fallen from almost 40,000 in June 2013 to just under 32,500 in December 2013? Fact or fiction - in the last council by-election in Bolton, although UKIP overtook The LibDems, the Conservatives actually extended their share of the vote? Yet again you have not provided the information that more than 1 person has requested from you - How many people were polled? and what was teh EXACT question? Is that to hard a question for you to answer? What racist slurs have I come out with with regards to UKIP? - err NONE!!!! It was actually you that was talking about racism and actually mentioned the Muslim/islam population first and no one else!!! Once again, answer these question for which you have NOT yet answered.... 1. When was the first Muslim in the UK? 2. So where do you stand with regards to the IRA (Roman Catholics v Protestants - but all Christian)? 3. Where are YOUR Romanians and Bulgarians which you said would be here by now?[/p][/quote]I dont think about what if and when things i live in the now life. You dont vote so dont have a voice. You believe what you do so do i... We are now getting close to finding out who is right at last. Your kind are old news.[/p][/quote]Once again I have to point out.... Under the British Constitution the Right To Express and the Right To Vote are NOT linked - how many times do you have to be educated about that? Therefore the right to note vote does not mean I don't have teh right to express! Also you have to remember that there is no such thing as Freedom of speech - it is the Right to express and it has laws which have to be adhered to. Considering you call yourself a "true British person" why is it you don't know the British Constitution? WHAY ARE YOU SO FRIGHTENED IN ANSWERING 3 EASY QUESTIONS WHICH ARE NOT ACTUALLY WHAT-IF QUESTIONS BUT ACTUALLY FACTUIALLY CORRECT QUESTIONS! Or is it because you arer so ignorant and uneducated that you do not know the answe, or do you want Nigel Farrage to answer for you - and he is your mouthpiece and he guides your thoughts! Therefore once again I ask:- Fact or fiction (evidence taken from the UKIP website) - Party members has fallen from almost 40,000 in June 2013 to just under 32,500 in December 2013? Fact or fiction - in the last council by-election in Bolton, although UKIP overtook The LibDems, the Conservatives actually extended their share of the vote? When was the first Muslim in the UK? So where do you stand with regards to the IRA (Roman Catholics v Protestants - but all Christian)? Where are YOUR Romanians and Bulgarians which you said would be here by now? There is not one "what-if" question there. I do understand English is difficult for you but this is plain and simple English language for you - and probably for every "the Sun" reader"![/p][/quote]The questions you ask mean nothing about this issue so im using my right to express to say to you that you talk rubbish. If UKIP isnt as popular as you say then why the hell are you so worked up and vocal against them all the time. The right is getting more acceptable and more mains Stream all over Europe. The rise of the right is not the fault of the right its the fault of the left wing governments policy,s that have failed very badly. thomas222

4:01pm Wed 22 Jan 14

The Righteous One says...

I am not worked up, but fed up of all YOUR inaccuracies all the time and trying to show you the error of your ways - You say you are going to vote for UKIP -but you do not know their policies, what they actually stand for or what they mena for the common person.

The right is not as more acceptable as you think. In The Netherlands Geert Wilders party was 2nd in the country but in the last general elections they are now 4th. Even in Greece their popularity is definitely waining with the more liberal and midlle-left wing parties gaining ground. Even Angela Merkle's party, in Germany, increased their vote in the last elections, at the expense of the far-right winged!!!!!


You will not answer questions but you expect and badger people into answering your questions - how pathetic of yoU! Are you that seriously scared of answering the questions! Or am I right in my thinking in that your mind is controlled by Nigel Farrage and you don't have a mind of your own - just shows how sad and pathetric you are and to be fair someone like you should lose their suffrage rights!
I am not worked up, but fed up of all YOUR inaccuracies all the time and trying to show you the error of your ways - You say you are going to vote for UKIP -but you do not know their policies, what they actually stand for or what they mena for the common person. The right is not as more acceptable as you think. In The Netherlands Geert Wilders party was 2nd in the country but in the last general elections they are now 4th. Even in Greece their popularity is definitely waining with the more liberal and midlle-left wing parties gaining ground. Even Angela Merkle's party, in Germany, increased their vote in the last elections, at the expense of the far-right winged!!!!! You will not answer questions but you expect and badger people into answering your questions - how pathetic of yoU! Are you that seriously scared of answering the questions! Or am I right in my thinking in that your mind is controlled by Nigel Farrage and you don't have a mind of your own - just shows how sad and pathetric you are and to be fair someone like you should lose their suffrage rights! The Righteous One

7:13pm Wed 22 Jan 14

thomas222 says...

We will see..... ;)
We will see..... ;) thomas222

7:18pm Wed 22 Jan 14

boltonchap says...

Righteous one - not got much work done today have you old chap?
Righteous one - not got much work done today have you old chap? boltonchap

7:58pm Wed 22 Jan 14

BWFC71 says...

boltonchap wrote:
Righteous one - not got much work done today have you old chap?
Actually, considering I was at work at 730 - had lunch between 12 and 1 and then a break mid afternoon - I got more than you done - How are your racial overtones today - loud or shallow?

Green tea in a large mug please, to be delivered to me a by a large mug (you)
[quote][p][bold]boltonchap[/bold] wrote: Righteous one - not got much work done today have you old chap?[/p][/quote]Actually, considering I was at work at 730 - had lunch between 12 and 1 and then a break mid afternoon - I got more than you done - How are your racial overtones today - loud or shallow? Green tea in a large mug please, to be delivered to me a by a large mug (you) BWFC71

7:59pm Wed 22 Jan 14

mb63 says...

Well, if i get a UKIP candidate in my area, i will be voting for them!
Don't tell me that, Tories, Lib-Dem or Labour don't have Cranks and Loons in their ranks!
But UKIP, are the only party that seem prepared to do something about controlling immigration!

The sooner this country stops immigration and starts an effective repatriation programme that will remove illegal immigrands, the better!
Well, if i get a UKIP candidate in my area, i will be voting for them! Don't tell me that, Tories, Lib-Dem or Labour don't have Cranks and Loons in their ranks! But UKIP, are the only party that seem prepared to do something about controlling immigration! The sooner this country stops immigration and starts an effective repatriation programme that will remove illegal immigrands, the better! mb63

8:19pm Wed 22 Jan 14

MrBenggo says...

mb63,
couldn't have put it better myself.
mb63, couldn't have put it better myself. MrBenggo

9:31pm Wed 22 Jan 14

BWFC71 says...

mb63 wrote:
Well, if i get a UKIP candidate in my area, i will be voting for them!
Don't tell me that, Tories, Lib-Dem or Labour don't have Cranks and Loons in their ranks!
But UKIP, are the only party that seem prepared to do something about controlling immigration!

The sooner this country stops immigration and starts an effective repatriation programme that will remove illegal immigrands, the better!
1. You cannot stop immigration as British people moving back to the UK are actually immigrants and are part of the number!

2. Who is going to train the future youth of the trades that immigrants bring with them - considering that our successive Governments have stripped the education of the trades?

3. Farage has already said that he will allow "Christian" immigrants into the country - so how is that stopping immigration???

4. Remove the migrant workers this country will have a shortfall in workers - FACT (just like what happened in the 1950's when there was too much work and not enough workers!!!

5. We remove the so-called illegal immigrants we will receive the British undesirables back in the UK - where will they be housed. - you have to remember for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction!!!

The UK can not act as a lone country anymore - e have a large trade with China but their growth is slowing down which will affect us and possibly send us back into recession. The US are only millimetres away from being bankrupt - it almost happened late last year, it will happen within next few years - again that will affect us, Australia's economy is slowing down and again that will affect us - so who will trade with the UK if UKIP gets in? Only countries with a dubious record because no one else will be prepared to trade with an expensive country - even with being part of the EU we are an expensive country. We need the EU more than the EU needs us 9to be fair as Germany, Benelux and Austria are the backbone of the country.

You also have to remember we are very close to being bankrupt. Did you know that we are actually borrowing more no than what we did at the beginning of this Government (over 45% more) our credit rating is slipping and we have more and more people going under the poverty line - how can UKIP stop that?

How can UKIP get people moving again when they want to halt the HS2 (which will cost millions to stop now) but while investing in a new HS2 line just for the South East!!!!

Yes come out of EU and save the money for being in the club, but they want to spend almost 4 times as much - so where will the money come from - higher taxation???

Lower business rates, lower rate of tax for the "rich2 friends, helping with off-sshore tax acccuntss etc etc etc

Remember Farage once a banker always a banker - and yes he ha an offshore account, which he has admitted to, so he is stealing from the UK already!!!

Also, lastly, do you honestly think Farage will want to give up his ag and extras from Europe????

Like every other arty - he says the rhetoric which the masses want to hear, but once in power they are in it for themselves and stuff the country and everyone else in the country!

Look at some of their members - a member who blames gays for the bad weather, Godfrey Bloom for everything he says and does, this gut in Astley Bridge who is a swinder - says it all about the party! It is a joke.
[quote][p][bold]mb63[/bold] wrote: Well, if i get a UKIP candidate in my area, i will be voting for them! Don't tell me that, Tories, Lib-Dem or Labour don't have Cranks and Loons in their ranks! But UKIP, are the only party that seem prepared to do something about controlling immigration! The sooner this country stops immigration and starts an effective repatriation programme that will remove illegal immigrands, the better![/p][/quote]1. You cannot stop immigration as British people moving back to the UK are actually immigrants and are part of the number! 2. Who is going to train the future youth of the trades that immigrants bring with them - considering that our successive Governments have stripped the education of the trades? 3. Farage has already said that he will allow "Christian" immigrants into the country - so how is that stopping immigration??? 4. Remove the migrant workers this country will have a shortfall in workers - FACT (just like what happened in the 1950's when there was too much work and not enough workers!!! 5. We remove the so-called illegal immigrants we will receive the British undesirables back in the UK - where will they be housed. - you have to remember for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction!!! The UK can not act as a lone country anymore - e have a large trade with China but their growth is slowing down which will affect us and possibly send us back into recession. The US are only millimetres away from being bankrupt - it almost happened late last year, it will happen within next few years - again that will affect us, Australia's economy is slowing down and again that will affect us - so who will trade with the UK if UKIP gets in? Only countries with a dubious record because no one else will be prepared to trade with an expensive country - even with being part of the EU we are an expensive country. We need the EU more than the EU needs us 9to be fair as Germany, Benelux and Austria are the backbone of the country. You also have to remember we are very close to being bankrupt. Did you know that we are actually borrowing more no than what we did at the beginning of this Government (over 45% more) our credit rating is slipping and we have more and more people going under the poverty line - how can UKIP stop that? How can UKIP get people moving again when they want to halt the HS2 (which will cost millions to stop now) but while investing in a new HS2 line just for the South East!!!! Yes come out of EU and save the money for being in the club, but they want to spend almost 4 times as much - so where will the money come from - higher taxation??? Lower business rates, lower rate of tax for the "rich2 friends, helping with off-sshore tax acccuntss etc etc etc Remember Farage once a banker always a banker - and yes he ha an offshore account, which he has admitted to, so he is stealing from the UK already!!! Also, lastly, do you honestly think Farage will want to give up his ag and extras from Europe???? Like every other arty - he says the rhetoric which the masses want to hear, but once in power they are in it for themselves and stuff the country and everyone else in the country! Look at some of their members - a member who blames gays for the bad weather, Godfrey Bloom for everything he says and does, this gut in Astley Bridge who is a swinder - says it all about the party! It is a joke. BWFC71

9:34pm Wed 22 Jan 14

BWFC71 says...

And yes given the chance if they ever got into power (which I will bet everything I own have on never getting to power, by the way , that's how much I believe it will never happen) then I will leave this country as it will collapse under UKIP and will become in a much worse state than what Greece or Portugal is currently in! (our GDP is already 3 times worse than Greece's and 2.25 worse than Portugal's!!!) I'd let this country rot in its own doggy doings!
And yes given the chance if they ever got into power (which I will bet everything I own have on never getting to power, by the way , that's how much I believe it will never happen) then I will leave this country as it will collapse under UKIP and will become in a much worse state than what Greece or Portugal is currently in! (our GDP is already 3 times worse than Greece's and 2.25 worse than Portugal's!!!) I'd let this country rot in its own doggy doings! BWFC71

10:37pm Wed 22 Jan 14

BWFC71 says...

Are you really sure you ant to leave the EU?

Higher roaming calls on mobiles

And of course bad business pracitces not being curtailed such as Short Selling which Banks do - the EU has rejected UK claims to stop the EU from banning the practice. In other words the UK wanted to continue with the practice - a practice which brought about the world recession in 2008! Now could you imagine if UKIP got in they would overturn that and make the UK a world casino and possibly bring about another world recession - or even worse bankrupt the UK!!!

http://www.bbc.co.uk
/news/business-25845
291
Are you really sure you ant to leave the EU? Higher roaming calls on mobiles And of course bad business pracitces not being curtailed such as Short Selling which Banks do - the EU has rejected UK claims to stop the EU from banning the practice. In other words the UK wanted to continue with the practice - a practice which brought about the world recession in 2008! Now could you imagine if UKIP got in they would overturn that and make the UK a world casino and possibly bring about another world recession - or even worse bankrupt the UK!!! http://www.bbc.co.uk /news/business-25845 291 BWFC71

11:02pm Wed 22 Jan 14

thomas222 says...

Chill lads if UKIP aint a problem whats he fuss ? :)
Chill lads if UKIP aint a problem whats he fuss ? :) thomas222

11:47pm Wed 22 Jan 14

Toybox says...

What can UKIP offer me locally and mean it? Why should I consider voting UKIP in a local election?
Locally, would they refuse to apply for E.U. funds for regeneration based on their principle argument of out of the E.U.? To take them would surely make them hypocritical.
What can UKIP offer me locally and mean it? Why should I consider voting UKIP in a local election? Locally, would they refuse to apply for E.U. funds for regeneration based on their principle argument of out of the E.U.? To take them would surely make them hypocritical. Toybox

8:39am Thu 23 Jan 14

mb63 says...

@BWFC71
I never said anything about stopping immigration; I never said anything about removing legitimate migrants.

The problem with migrant workers, is that, they are prepared to do low-skilled manual labour type jobs, for a low wage, whereas, a lot of British people would not.
Hence, Lincolnshire is full of migrants working in the fields picking vegetables.
The effect of this is that wages are kept down; it is not because British people are lazy, it is because migrants are prepared to be exploited.
@BWFC71 I never said anything about stopping immigration; I never said anything about removing legitimate migrants. The problem with migrant workers, is that, they are prepared to do low-skilled manual labour type jobs, for a low wage, whereas, a lot of British people would not. Hence, Lincolnshire is full of migrants working in the fields picking vegetables. The effect of this is that wages are kept down; it is not because British people are lazy, it is because migrants are prepared to be exploited. mb63

8:56am Thu 23 Jan 14

The Righteous One says...

mb63 wrote:
@BWFC71
I never said anything about stopping immigration; I never said anything about removing legitimate migrants.

The problem with migrant workers, is that, they are prepared to do low-skilled manual labour type jobs, for a low wage, whereas, a lot of British people would not.
Hence, Lincolnshire is full of migrants working in the fields picking vegetables.
The effect of this is that wages are kept down; it is not because British people are lazy, it is because migrants are prepared to be exploited.
The low wage having to be the minimum wage - now if British perople do not want to accept the minimum wage and be prudish in thinking they are worth more then that is their problem and not of the migrant worker.

That is the problem of people born here they expect far much more than what they are worth - hence if/when we come out of the EU this country will collapse because of that exact attitude - we are an expensive country to trade with - hence moving call centres etc etc etc overseas to where it is cheaper!!

I would never say us British are lazy but we do temnd to expect something for nothing - even with wages!
[quote][p][bold]mb63[/bold] wrote: @BWFC71 I never said anything about stopping immigration; I never said anything about removing legitimate migrants. The problem with migrant workers, is that, they are prepared to do low-skilled manual labour type jobs, for a low wage, whereas, a lot of British people would not. Hence, Lincolnshire is full of migrants working in the fields picking vegetables. The effect of this is that wages are kept down; it is not because British people are lazy, it is because migrants are prepared to be exploited.[/p][/quote]The low wage having to be the minimum wage - now if British perople do not want to accept the minimum wage and be prudish in thinking they are worth more then that is their problem and not of the migrant worker. That is the problem of people born here they expect far much more than what they are worth - hence if/when we come out of the EU this country will collapse because of that exact attitude - we are an expensive country to trade with - hence moving call centres etc etc etc overseas to where it is cheaper!! I would never say us British are lazy but we do temnd to expect something for nothing - even with wages! The Righteous One

9:00am Thu 23 Jan 14

The Righteous One says...

BWFC71 wrote:
Are you really sure you ant to leave the EU?

Higher roaming calls on mobiles

And of course bad business pracitces not being curtailed such as Short Selling which Banks do - the EU has rejected UK claims to stop the EU from banning the practice. In other words the UK wanted to continue with the practice - a practice which brought about the world recession in 2008! Now could you imagine if UKIP got in they would overturn that and make the UK a world casino and possibly bring about another world recession - or even worse bankrupt the UK!!!

http://www.bbc.co.uk

/news/business-25845

291
So those who give the thumbs down (which I ain't bothered about as it won't make me decide to come off this site) do you actually believe that we should keep the principle Casino attitude when it comes to banking - that is what UKIP wants!

Therefore you are prepared to gamble in having a recession just as bad as this last one - opr even worse, because the Bankers are NOT being restrained.

At least the EU are trying to restrain them!!!
[quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: Are you really sure you ant to leave the EU? Higher roaming calls on mobiles And of course bad business pracitces not being curtailed such as Short Selling which Banks do - the EU has rejected UK claims to stop the EU from banning the practice. In other words the UK wanted to continue with the practice - a practice which brought about the world recession in 2008! Now could you imagine if UKIP got in they would overturn that and make the UK a world casino and possibly bring about another world recession - or even worse bankrupt the UK!!! http://www.bbc.co.uk /news/business-25845 291[/p][/quote]So those who give the thumbs down (which I ain't bothered about as it won't make me decide to come off this site) do you actually believe that we should keep the principle Casino attitude when it comes to banking - that is what UKIP wants! Therefore you are prepared to gamble in having a recession just as bad as this last one - opr even worse, because the Bankers are NOT being restrained. At least the EU are trying to restrain them!!! The Righteous One

11:13am Thu 23 Jan 14

boltonchap says...

BWFC71 wrote:
boltonchap wrote:
Righteous one - not got much work done today have you old chap?
Actually, considering I was at work at 730 - had lunch between 12 and 1 and then a break mid afternoon - I got more than you done - How are your racial overtones today - loud or shallow?

Green tea in a large mug please, to be delivered to me a by a large mug (you)
BWFC71/righteousone yet again you call me a racist. You have no basis whatsoever to make such an accusation. Never ever have I made a racist comment in these forums. Given your egregious personal attack I feel entitled to submit my assessment of you.
Your postings straddle the line between ignorant and otiose. You believe, incorrectly, that you are intelligent. You present yourself as being employed by a medium sized law firm yet spend an inordinate amount of time on here during the working day. Outside of the working week you use an alternative pseudonym seemingly to convince us that you actually do have the employment you claim; this fools no one as it only takes a couple of minutes to get another email address from google mail and register this with the BN.
You lead a pitiful existence - one only needs to look at the obsessive amount of time you devote to these forums. This leads me to believe you have no family.
You claim to be a polyglot yet your command of english is frankly dreadful - both grammar and spelling.
The views you submit are badly structured and often incoherent - no way are you working in a legal capacity you wouldn't last five minutes in any law firm, even one that never rises above property conveyancing.
You don't know the difference between spamming, trolling and stalking.
In this particular thread you even venture into global economics and get all of your facts wrong which, as well as confirming your ignorance, also indicates that you are incapable of doing even the most basic of research.
You never answer any questions put to you by other posters on these forums but take cover by hurling personal insults at anyone who disagrees with you.
I suspect you have OCD as your habit of posting excessive detail on minor issues is a typical symptom of this condition. You appear intensely knowledgeable about trains, timetables, routes as you also are with regard to buses. This underpins my view that you have OCD but also leads me to believe that you rely entirely on public transport, can't afford a car but do use a push bike when not on a bus.
To summarise you are an offensive, ignorant and nasty piece of work and I sympathise with anyone who has the misfortune to know you.
[quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]boltonchap[/bold] wrote: Righteous one - not got much work done today have you old chap?[/p][/quote]Actually, considering I was at work at 730 - had lunch between 12 and 1 and then a break mid afternoon - I got more than you done - How are your racial overtones today - loud or shallow? Green tea in a large mug please, to be delivered to me a by a large mug (you)[/p][/quote]BWFC71/righteousone yet again you call me a racist. You have no basis whatsoever to make such an accusation. Never ever have I made a racist comment in these forums. Given your egregious personal attack I feel entitled to submit my assessment of you. Your postings straddle the line between ignorant and otiose. You believe, incorrectly, that you are intelligent. You present yourself as being employed by a medium sized law firm yet spend an inordinate amount of time on here during the working day. Outside of the working week you use an alternative pseudonym seemingly to convince us that you actually do have the employment you claim; this fools no one as it only takes a couple of minutes to get another email address from google mail and register this with the BN. You lead a pitiful existence - one only needs to look at the obsessive amount of time you devote to these forums. This leads me to believe you have no family. You claim to be a polyglot yet your command of english is frankly dreadful - both grammar and spelling. The views you submit are badly structured and often incoherent - no way are you working in a legal capacity you wouldn't last five minutes in any law firm, even one that never rises above property conveyancing. You don't know the difference between spamming, trolling and stalking. In this particular thread you even venture into global economics and get all of your facts wrong which, as well as confirming your ignorance, also indicates that you are incapable of doing even the most basic of research. You never answer any questions put to you by other posters on these forums but take cover by hurling personal insults at anyone who disagrees with you. I suspect you have OCD as your habit of posting excessive detail on minor issues is a typical symptom of this condition. You appear intensely knowledgeable about trains, timetables, routes as you also are with regard to buses. This underpins my view that you have OCD but also leads me to believe that you rely entirely on public transport, can't afford a car but do use a push bike when not on a bus. To summarise you are an offensive, ignorant and nasty piece of work and I sympathise with anyone who has the misfortune to know you. boltonchap

12:53pm Thu 23 Jan 14

The Righteous One says...

boltonchap wrote:
BWFC71 wrote:
boltonchap wrote:
Righteous one - not got much work done today have you old chap?
Actually, considering I was at work at 730 - had lunch between 12 and 1 and then a break mid afternoon - I got more than you done - How are your racial overtones today - loud or shallow?

Green tea in a large mug please, to be delivered to me a by a large mug (you)
BWFC71/righteousone yet again you call me a racist. You have no basis whatsoever to make such an accusation. Never ever have I made a racist comment in these forums. Given your egregious personal attack I feel entitled to submit my assessment of you.
Your postings straddle the line between ignorant and otiose. You believe, incorrectly, that you are intelligent. You present yourself as being employed by a medium sized law firm yet spend an inordinate amount of time on here during the working day. Outside of the working week you use an alternative pseudonym seemingly to convince us that you actually do have the employment you claim; this fools no one as it only takes a couple of minutes to get another email address from google mail and register this with the BN.
You lead a pitiful existence - one only needs to look at the obsessive amount of time you devote to these forums. This leads me to believe you have no family.
You claim to be a polyglot yet your command of english is frankly dreadful - both grammar and spelling.
The views you submit are badly structured and often incoherent - no way are you working in a legal capacity you wouldn't last five minutes in any law firm, even one that never rises above property conveyancing.
You don't know the difference between spamming, trolling and stalking.
In this particular thread you even venture into global economics and get all of your facts wrong which, as well as confirming your ignorance, also indicates that you are incapable of doing even the most basic of research.
You never answer any questions put to you by other posters on these forums but take cover by hurling personal insults at anyone who disagrees with you.
I suspect you have OCD as your habit of posting excessive detail on minor issues is a typical symptom of this condition. You appear intensely knowledgeable about trains, timetables, routes as you also are with regard to buses. This underpins my view that you have OCD but also leads me to believe that you rely entirely on public transport, can't afford a car but do use a push bike when not on a bus.
To summarise you are an offensive, ignorant and nasty piece of work and I sympathise with anyone who has the misfortune to know you.
Read again as I didn't call you a racist!

I asked how your racial overtones were - loud or shallow!

Now it is your simple mind that wants to make it think that I called you a racist!

Now get my Green Tea - I am parched!
[quote][p][bold]boltonchap[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]boltonchap[/bold] wrote: Righteous one - not got much work done today have you old chap?[/p][/quote]Actually, considering I was at work at 730 - had lunch between 12 and 1 and then a break mid afternoon - I got more than you done - How are your racial overtones today - loud or shallow? Green tea in a large mug please, to be delivered to me a by a large mug (you)[/p][/quote]BWFC71/righteousone yet again you call me a racist. You have no basis whatsoever to make such an accusation. Never ever have I made a racist comment in these forums. Given your egregious personal attack I feel entitled to submit my assessment of you. Your postings straddle the line between ignorant and otiose. You believe, incorrectly, that you are intelligent. You present yourself as being employed by a medium sized law firm yet spend an inordinate amount of time on here during the working day. Outside of the working week you use an alternative pseudonym seemingly to convince us that you actually do have the employment you claim; this fools no one as it only takes a couple of minutes to get another email address from google mail and register this with the BN. You lead a pitiful existence - one only needs to look at the obsessive amount of time you devote to these forums. This leads me to believe you have no family. You claim to be a polyglot yet your command of english is frankly dreadful - both grammar and spelling. The views you submit are badly structured and often incoherent - no way are you working in a legal capacity you wouldn't last five minutes in any law firm, even one that never rises above property conveyancing. You don't know the difference between spamming, trolling and stalking. In this particular thread you even venture into global economics and get all of your facts wrong which, as well as confirming your ignorance, also indicates that you are incapable of doing even the most basic of research. You never answer any questions put to you by other posters on these forums but take cover by hurling personal insults at anyone who disagrees with you. I suspect you have OCD as your habit of posting excessive detail on minor issues is a typical symptom of this condition. You appear intensely knowledgeable about trains, timetables, routes as you also are with regard to buses. This underpins my view that you have OCD but also leads me to believe that you rely entirely on public transport, can't afford a car but do use a push bike when not on a bus. To summarise you are an offensive, ignorant and nasty piece of work and I sympathise with anyone who has the misfortune to know you.[/p][/quote]Read again as I didn't call you a racist! I asked how your racial overtones were - loud or shallow! Now it is your simple mind that wants to make it think that I called you a racist! Now get my Green Tea - I am parched! The Righteous One

1:00pm Thu 23 Jan 14

The Righteous One says...

boltonchap wrote:
BWFC71 wrote:
boltonchap wrote:
Righteous one - not got much work done today have you old chap?
Actually, considering I was at work at 730 - had lunch between 12 and 1 and then a break mid afternoon - I got more than you done - How are your racial overtones today - loud or shallow?

Green tea in a large mug please, to be delivered to me a by a large mug (you)
BWFC71/righteousone yet again you call me a racist. You have no basis whatsoever to make such an accusation. Never ever have I made a racist comment in these forums. Given your egregious personal attack I feel entitled to submit my assessment of you.
Your postings straddle the line between ignorant and otiose. You believe, incorrectly, that you are intelligent. You present yourself as being employed by a medium sized law firm yet spend an inordinate amount of time on here during the working day. Outside of the working week you use an alternative pseudonym seemingly to convince us that you actually do have the employment you claim; this fools no one as it only takes a couple of minutes to get another email address from google mail and register this with the BN.
You lead a pitiful existence - one only needs to look at the obsessive amount of time you devote to these forums. This leads me to believe you have no family.
You claim to be a polyglot yet your command of english is frankly dreadful - both grammar and spelling.
The views you submit are badly structured and often incoherent - no way are you working in a legal capacity you wouldn't last five minutes in any law firm, even one that never rises above property conveyancing.
You don't know the difference between spamming, trolling and stalking.
In this particular thread you even venture into global economics and get all of your facts wrong which, as well as confirming your ignorance, also indicates that you are incapable of doing even the most basic of research.
You never answer any questions put to you by other posters on these forums but take cover by hurling personal insults at anyone who disagrees with you.
I suspect you have OCD as your habit of posting excessive detail on minor issues is a typical symptom of this condition. You appear intensely knowledgeable about trains, timetables, routes as you also are with regard to buses. This underpins my view that you have OCD but also leads me to believe that you rely entirely on public transport, can't afford a car but do use a push bike when not on a bus.
To summarise you are an offensive, ignorant and nasty piece of work and I sympathise with anyone who has the misfortune to know you.
Actually Global finance - get YOUR facts right as I actually provided the links to the stories!!!

Again it shows your ineptness to be proved wrong and show that you are an old dog who cannot accept new tricks or attiudes to todays small world.

You say I have OCD - look at the length of your post - says it all!

I have a car but find it cheaper to use public transport in today's world of high petrol and maintenance prices.

I do not believe that I am intelligent - in fact I know that I am intelligent and that you are definitely sub-intelligent for not knowing todays world and how it operates - this is no longer the 1950's or the 1980's!!!

Obsessive time - let me see - luntime and in the evening and if I have a quick break in the afternoon - yep that is excessive isn't it!!!!

I also know the difference between stalking, spamming and trolling - when I have successfully been to court and won a personal case against someone who was very similar to you!

Now put your clock away, and your calculator and your lexicon and get me a fresh brew of green tea - very thirsty at this moment in time!
[quote][p][bold]boltonchap[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]boltonchap[/bold] wrote: Righteous one - not got much work done today have you old chap?[/p][/quote]Actually, considering I was at work at 730 - had lunch between 12 and 1 and then a break mid afternoon - I got more than you done - How are your racial overtones today - loud or shallow? Green tea in a large mug please, to be delivered to me a by a large mug (you)[/p][/quote]BWFC71/righteousone yet again you call me a racist. You have no basis whatsoever to make such an accusation. Never ever have I made a racist comment in these forums. Given your egregious personal attack I feel entitled to submit my assessment of you. Your postings straddle the line between ignorant and otiose. You believe, incorrectly, that you are intelligent. You present yourself as being employed by a medium sized law firm yet spend an inordinate amount of time on here during the working day. Outside of the working week you use an alternative pseudonym seemingly to convince us that you actually do have the employment you claim; this fools no one as it only takes a couple of minutes to get another email address from google mail and register this with the BN. You lead a pitiful existence - one only needs to look at the obsessive amount of time you devote to these forums. This leads me to believe you have no family. You claim to be a polyglot yet your command of english is frankly dreadful - both grammar and spelling. The views you submit are badly structured and often incoherent - no way are you working in a legal capacity you wouldn't last five minutes in any law firm, even one that never rises above property conveyancing. You don't know the difference between spamming, trolling and stalking. In this particular thread you even venture into global economics and get all of your facts wrong which, as well as confirming your ignorance, also indicates that you are incapable of doing even the most basic of research. You never answer any questions put to you by other posters on these forums but take cover by hurling personal insults at anyone who disagrees with you. I suspect you have OCD as your habit of posting excessive detail on minor issues is a typical symptom of this condition. You appear intensely knowledgeable about trains, timetables, routes as you also are with regard to buses. This underpins my view that you have OCD but also leads me to believe that you rely entirely on public transport, can't afford a car but do use a push bike when not on a bus. To summarise you are an offensive, ignorant and nasty piece of work and I sympathise with anyone who has the misfortune to know you.[/p][/quote]Actually Global finance - get YOUR facts right as I actually provided the links to the stories!!! Again it shows your ineptness to be proved wrong and show that you are an old dog who cannot accept new tricks or attiudes to todays small world. You say I have OCD - look at the length of your post - says it all! I have a car but find it cheaper to use public transport in today's world of high petrol and maintenance prices. I do not believe that I am intelligent - in fact I know that I am intelligent and that you are definitely sub-intelligent for not knowing todays world and how it operates - this is no longer the 1950's or the 1980's!!! Obsessive time - let me see - luntime and in the evening and if I have a quick break in the afternoon - yep that is excessive isn't it!!!! I also know the difference between stalking, spamming and trolling - when I have successfully been to court and won a personal case against someone who was very similar to you! Now put your clock away, and your calculator and your lexicon and get me a fresh brew of green tea - very thirsty at this moment in time! The Righteous One

1:15pm Thu 23 Jan 14

boltonchap says...

You have confirmed all I said about you in the below post righteousone.
I have an idea for a new pseudonym for you:
" inimmediateneedofaps
ychiatrist"
You have confirmed all I said about you in the below post righteousone. I have an idea for a new pseudonym for you: " inimmediateneedofaps ychiatrist" boltonchap

4:03pm Thu 23 Jan 14

The Righteous One says...

boltonchap wrote:
You have confirmed all I said about you in the below post righteousone.
I have an idea for a new pseudonym for you:
" inimmediateneedofaps

ychiatrist"
drink-slave

Have you made that green-tea yet - boy!


I haven't confirmed anything except that you should actually read what I say as I contradicted your - with evidence!!!

It is about time you realised the perilous state of this country. Yes the deficiet may be down, but teh debt has risen and is rising every day - therefore what I say is TRUE - or is it as I presume, that you are just a sheep and believe everything that you are told, without actually reading into and around the subject.

Thats why you are a lowly paid gofer, whilst I am in the position I am in - working for a decent employer and actually being part owner in a business in The Netherlands!
[quote][p][bold]boltonchap[/bold] wrote: You have confirmed all I said about you in the below post righteousone. I have an idea for a new pseudonym for you: " inimmediateneedofaps ychiatrist"[/p][/quote]drink-slave Have you made that green-tea yet - boy! I haven't confirmed anything except that you should actually read what I say as I contradicted your - with evidence!!! It is about time you realised the perilous state of this country. Yes the deficiet may be down, but teh debt has risen and is rising every day - therefore what I say is TRUE - or is it as I presume, that you are just a sheep and believe everything that you are told, without actually reading into and around the subject. Thats why you are a lowly paid gofer, whilst I am in the position I am in - working for a decent employer and actually being part owner in a business in The Netherlands! The Righteous One

5:43pm Thu 23 Jan 14

boltonchap says...

The Righteous One wrote:
boltonchap wrote:
You have confirmed all I said about you in the below post righteousone.
I have an idea for a new pseudonym for you:
" inimmediateneedofaps


ychiatrist"
drink-slave

Have you made that green-tea yet - boy!


I haven't confirmed anything except that you should actually read what I say as I contradicted your - with evidence!!!

It is about time you realised the perilous state of this country. Yes the deficiet may be down, but teh debt has risen and is rising every day - therefore what I say is TRUE - or is it as I presume, that you are just a sheep and believe everything that you are told, without actually reading into and around the subject.

Thats why you are a lowly paid gofer, whilst I am in the position I am in - working for a decent employer and actually being part owner in a business in The Netherlands!
I don't do slanging matches sunshine. However having had a good laugh at your latest post this shall be my last contribution on this thread - my rationale? You really really do need professional help and I can no longer mock the afflicted. You poor sad man.
[quote][p][bold]The Righteous One[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]boltonchap[/bold] wrote: You have confirmed all I said about you in the below post righteousone. I have an idea for a new pseudonym for you: " inimmediateneedofaps ychiatrist"[/p][/quote]drink-slave Have you made that green-tea yet - boy! I haven't confirmed anything except that you should actually read what I say as I contradicted your - with evidence!!! It is about time you realised the perilous state of this country. Yes the deficiet may be down, but teh debt has risen and is rising every day - therefore what I say is TRUE - or is it as I presume, that you are just a sheep and believe everything that you are told, without actually reading into and around the subject. Thats why you are a lowly paid gofer, whilst I am in the position I am in - working for a decent employer and actually being part owner in a business in The Netherlands![/p][/quote]I don't do slanging matches sunshine. However having had a good laugh at your latest post this shall be my last contribution on this thread - my rationale? You really really do need professional help and I can no longer mock the afflicted. You poor sad man. boltonchap

8:07pm Thu 23 Jan 14

BWFC71 says...

boltonchap wrote:
The Righteous One wrote:
boltonchap wrote:
You have confirmed all I said about you in the below post righteousone.
I have an idea for a new pseudonym for you:
" inimmediateneedofaps



ychiatrist"
drink-slave

Have you made that green-tea yet - boy!


I haven't confirmed anything except that you should actually read what I say as I contradicted your - with evidence!!!

It is about time you realised the perilous state of this country. Yes the deficiet may be down, but teh debt has risen and is rising every day - therefore what I say is TRUE - or is it as I presume, that you are just a sheep and believe everything that you are told, without actually reading into and around the subject.

Thats why you are a lowly paid gofer, whilst I am in the position I am in - working for a decent employer and actually being part owner in a business in The Netherlands!
I don't do slanging matches sunshine. However having had a good laugh at your latest post this shall be my last contribution on this thread - my rationale? You really really do need professional help and I can no longer mock the afflicted. You poor sad man.
Mwarahahahahaha

Is that mad enough for you, or inflicted enough.

Plain and simple fact is - you have NOT commented on this story and only had a go at me for no reason whatsoever, except that I showed you up for what you are in a news story over a month ago!

Like I said then, and I will say now, it is you who needs help. This digging in and having a go at me for no reason whatsoever apart from your pride being hurt, will do you no good at all! You are already looking bitter and twisted and possibly the next step is phoning my employer (oh yes, I forgot you have!) Now isn't that stalking???

Even stalking me on here and spamming the site with your hatred for another human being, just because you were proved wrong!

My advice is to sit down, calm down, have a large mug of green tea, make an appointment with you doctor and sort out your blood pressure before it makes you too ill!
[quote][p][bold]boltonchap[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Righteous One[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]boltonchap[/bold] wrote: You have confirmed all I said about you in the below post righteousone. I have an idea for a new pseudonym for you: " inimmediateneedofaps ychiatrist"[/p][/quote]drink-slave Have you made that green-tea yet - boy! I haven't confirmed anything except that you should actually read what I say as I contradicted your - with evidence!!! It is about time you realised the perilous state of this country. Yes the deficiet may be down, but teh debt has risen and is rising every day - therefore what I say is TRUE - or is it as I presume, that you are just a sheep and believe everything that you are told, without actually reading into and around the subject. Thats why you are a lowly paid gofer, whilst I am in the position I am in - working for a decent employer and actually being part owner in a business in The Netherlands![/p][/quote]I don't do slanging matches sunshine. However having had a good laugh at your latest post this shall be my last contribution on this thread - my rationale? You really really do need professional help and I can no longer mock the afflicted. You poor sad man.[/p][/quote]Mwarahahahahaha Is that mad enough for you, or inflicted enough. Plain and simple fact is - you have NOT commented on this story and only had a go at me for no reason whatsoever, except that I showed you up for what you are in a news story over a month ago! Like I said then, and I will say now, it is you who needs help. This digging in and having a go at me for no reason whatsoever apart from your pride being hurt, will do you no good at all! You are already looking bitter and twisted and possibly the next step is phoning my employer (oh yes, I forgot you have!) Now isn't that stalking??? Even stalking me on here and spamming the site with your hatred for another human being, just because you were proved wrong! My advice is to sit down, calm down, have a large mug of green tea, make an appointment with you doctor and sort out your blood pressure before it makes you too ill! BWFC71

11:11pm Thu 23 Jan 14

BWFC71 says...

mb63 wrote:
@BWFC71
I never said anything about stopping immigration; I never said anything about removing legitimate migrants.

The problem with migrant workers, is that, they are prepared to do low-skilled manual labour type jobs, for a low wage, whereas, a lot of British people would not.
Hence, Lincolnshire is full of migrants working in the fields picking vegetables.
The effect of this is that wages are kept down; it is not because British people are lazy, it is because migrants are prepared to be exploited.
But again, if you take Lincolnshire as the example - the locals" do not actually want to stop immigration their biggest problem is integration!!!! As was seen on Question Time towards the end of last year, when the majority in the audience actually laughed at, and booed, Nigel Farage with his extremists immigration views.

Also, staying with Farage, isn't it funny he now wants to distance himself from UKIP's 2010 manifesto - his own manifesto!

http://www.bbc.co.uk
/news/uk-politics-25
867585

So he is just as hypocritical as any other Banker and Politician (and funnily enough he is both!!!)
[quote][p][bold]mb63[/bold] wrote: @BWFC71 I never said anything about stopping immigration; I never said anything about removing legitimate migrants. The problem with migrant workers, is that, they are prepared to do low-skilled manual labour type jobs, for a low wage, whereas, a lot of British people would not. Hence, Lincolnshire is full of migrants working in the fields picking vegetables. The effect of this is that wages are kept down; it is not because British people are lazy, it is because migrants are prepared to be exploited.[/p][/quote]But again, if you take Lincolnshire as the example - the locals" do not actually want to stop immigration their biggest problem is integration!!!! As was seen on Question Time towards the end of last year, when the majority in the audience actually laughed at, and booed, Nigel Farage with his extremists immigration views. Also, staying with Farage, isn't it funny he now wants to distance himself from UKIP's 2010 manifesto - his own manifesto! http://www.bbc.co.uk /news/uk-politics-25 867585 So he is just as hypocritical as any other Banker and Politician (and funnily enough he is both!!!) BWFC71

11:19am Fri 24 Jan 14

Jim271 says...

Judging by another story lots of people thing its ok to display an item in the workplace in order to deliberately offend other people,
Judging by another story lots of people thing its ok to display an item in the workplace in order to deliberately offend other people, Jim271

9:54pm Fri 24 Jan 14

mb63 says...

BWFC71 wrote:
mb63 wrote:
@BWFC71
I never said anything about stopping immigration; I never said anything about removing legitimate migrants.

The problem with migrant workers, is that, they are prepared to do low-skilled manual labour type jobs, for a low wage, whereas, a lot of British people would not.
Hence, Lincolnshire is full of migrants working in the fields picking vegetables.
The effect of this is that wages are kept down; it is not because British people are lazy, it is because migrants are prepared to be exploited.
But again, if you take Lincolnshire as the example - the locals" do not actually want to stop immigration their biggest problem is integration!!!! As was seen on Question Time towards the end of last year, when the majority in the audience actually laughed at, and booed, Nigel Farage with his extremists immigration views.

Also, staying with Farage, isn't it funny he now wants to distance himself from UKIP's 2010 manifesto - his own manifesto!

http://www.bbc.co.uk

/news/uk-politics-25

867585

So he is just as hypocritical as any other Banker and Politician (and funnily enough he is both!!!)
Yes, i do not disagree, though my overall points are still valid.
Immigrants will do low paid jobs, whereas the locals will not do those jobs for low wages. All this is, is exploitation. Migrant workers, through no fault of their own, are ruining the lower paid jobs market for locals.
You also need to consider, that a vast amount of these migrants are shipped over by criminal gangs, with the promise of jobs and accomodation, only to find, that the reality is, dozens of them living in one house, and their wages "docked" for rent/gas/electricity
, etc.
BUT, they are still prepared to accept these conditions.
A local or indigenous worker would not.
UKIP, for all their faults, are the only party that are prepared to bring these issues to the forefront of their policies!
I am not saying i am a UKIP supporter, but if enough people vote (defect) for UKIP, then the mainstream parties will have to adapt.
It has already started to affect policy in the Labour and Conservative parties.
It is a major issue for a lot of peoe.p
[quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mb63[/bold] wrote: @BWFC71 I never said anything about stopping immigration; I never said anything about removing legitimate migrants. The problem with migrant workers, is that, they are prepared to do low-skilled manual labour type jobs, for a low wage, whereas, a lot of British people would not. Hence, Lincolnshire is full of migrants working in the fields picking vegetables. The effect of this is that wages are kept down; it is not because British people are lazy, it is because migrants are prepared to be exploited.[/p][/quote]But again, if you take Lincolnshire as the example - the locals" do not actually want to stop immigration their biggest problem is integration!!!! As was seen on Question Time towards the end of last year, when the majority in the audience actually laughed at, and booed, Nigel Farage with his extremists immigration views. Also, staying with Farage, isn't it funny he now wants to distance himself from UKIP's 2010 manifesto - his own manifesto! http://www.bbc.co.uk /news/uk-politics-25 867585 So he is just as hypocritical as any other Banker and Politician (and funnily enough he is both!!!)[/p][/quote]Yes, i do not disagree, though my overall points are still valid. Immigrants will do low paid jobs, whereas the locals will not do those jobs for low wages. All this is, is exploitation. Migrant workers, through no fault of their own, are ruining the lower paid jobs market for locals. You also need to consider, that a vast amount of these migrants are shipped over by criminal gangs, with the promise of jobs and accomodation, only to find, that the reality is, dozens of them living in one house, and their wages "docked" for rent/gas/electricity , etc. BUT, they are still prepared to accept these conditions. A local or indigenous worker would not. UKIP, for all their faults, are the only party that are prepared to bring these issues to the forefront of their policies! I am not saying i am a UKIP supporter, but if enough people vote (defect) for UKIP, then the mainstream parties will have to adapt. It has already started to affect policy in the Labour and Conservative parties. It is a major issue for a lot of peoe.p mb63

9:10am Sun 26 Jan 14

George X says...

BWFC71 wrote:
mb63 wrote:
@BWFC71
I never said anything about stopping immigration; I never said anything about removing legitimate migrants.

The problem with migrant workers, is that, they are prepared to do low-skilled manual labour type jobs, for a low wage, whereas, a lot of British people would not.
Hence, Lincolnshire is full of migrants working in the fields picking vegetables.
The effect of this is that wages are kept down; it is not because British people are lazy, it is because migrants are prepared to be exploited.
But again, if you take Lincolnshire as the example - the locals" do not actually want to stop immigration their biggest problem is integration!!!! As was seen on Question Time towards the end of last year, when the majority in the audience actually laughed at, and booed, Nigel Farage with his extremists immigration views.

Also, staying with Farage, isn't it funny he now wants to distance himself from UKIP's 2010 manifesto - his own manifesto!

http://www.bbc.co.uk

/news/uk-politics-25

867585

So he is just as hypocritical as any other Banker and Politician (and funnily enough he is both!!!)
They were liblabcon "plants" in the audience, Bwfc71 aka righteous one aka BIG ERN, aka Eric Draven :) laugh.
[quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mb63[/bold] wrote: @BWFC71 I never said anything about stopping immigration; I never said anything about removing legitimate migrants. The problem with migrant workers, is that, they are prepared to do low-skilled manual labour type jobs, for a low wage, whereas, a lot of British people would not. Hence, Lincolnshire is full of migrants working in the fields picking vegetables. The effect of this is that wages are kept down; it is not because British people are lazy, it is because migrants are prepared to be exploited.[/p][/quote]But again, if you take Lincolnshire as the example - the locals" do not actually want to stop immigration their biggest problem is integration!!!! As was seen on Question Time towards the end of last year, when the majority in the audience actually laughed at, and booed, Nigel Farage with his extremists immigration views. Also, staying with Farage, isn't it funny he now wants to distance himself from UKIP's 2010 manifesto - his own manifesto! http://www.bbc.co.uk /news/uk-politics-25 867585 So he is just as hypocritical as any other Banker and Politician (and funnily enough he is both!!!)[/p][/quote]They were liblabcon "plants" in the audience, Bwfc71 aka righteous one aka BIG ERN, aka Eric Draven :) laugh. George X

1:17pm Sun 26 Jan 14

steveG says...

I wanted to be the 100th comment - is there a prize?.
I did once have a keyring with a white man on a cross,would this pass the loony left Council Communist test or would I too be sacked,were I employed by the Council?.
I wanted to be the 100th comment - is there a prize?. I did once have a keyring with a white man on a cross,would this pass the loony left Council Communist test or would I too be sacked,were I employed by the Council?. steveG

5:31pm Sun 26 Jan 14

BWFC71 says...

George X wrote:
BWFC71 wrote:
mb63 wrote:
@BWFC71
I never said anything about stopping immigration; I never said anything about removing legitimate migrants.

The problem with migrant workers, is that, they are prepared to do low-skilled manual labour type jobs, for a low wage, whereas, a lot of British people would not.
Hence, Lincolnshire is full of migrants working in the fields picking vegetables.
The effect of this is that wages are kept down; it is not because British people are lazy, it is because migrants are prepared to be exploited.
But again, if you take Lincolnshire as the example - the locals" do not actually want to stop immigration their biggest problem is integration!!!! As was seen on Question Time towards the end of last year, when the majority in the audience actually laughed at, and booed, Nigel Farage with his extremists immigration views.

Also, staying with Farage, isn't it funny he now wants to distance himself from UKIP's 2010 manifesto - his own manifesto!

http://www.bbc.co.uk


/news/uk-politics-25


867585

So he is just as hypocritical as any other Banker and Politician (and funnily enough he is both!!!)
They were liblabcon "plants" in the audience, Bwfc71 aka righteous one aka BIG ERN, aka Eric Draven :) laugh.
YAWN!!!

Only BWFC71 and Righteous One!!!

Any one else who agrees with me is supportive of the facts and the REAL truth and I applaud them, unlike misguided souls like you who believe in make-believe and the Sun newspaper and The Mail newspaper (full of lies and contradictions and apologies for the lies they have previously mentioned!)


But keep dreaming George X (does that mean that there are 9 other Georges before you in your family - how very original - or is that over your head as you don't understand roman numerals!)
[quote][p][bold]George X[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mb63[/bold] wrote: @BWFC71 I never said anything about stopping immigration; I never said anything about removing legitimate migrants. The problem with migrant workers, is that, they are prepared to do low-skilled manual labour type jobs, for a low wage, whereas, a lot of British people would not. Hence, Lincolnshire is full of migrants working in the fields picking vegetables. The effect of this is that wages are kept down; it is not because British people are lazy, it is because migrants are prepared to be exploited.[/p][/quote]But again, if you take Lincolnshire as the example - the locals" do not actually want to stop immigration their biggest problem is integration!!!! As was seen on Question Time towards the end of last year, when the majority in the audience actually laughed at, and booed, Nigel Farage with his extremists immigration views. Also, staying with Farage, isn't it funny he now wants to distance himself from UKIP's 2010 manifesto - his own manifesto! http://www.bbc.co.uk /news/uk-politics-25 867585 So he is just as hypocritical as any other Banker and Politician (and funnily enough he is both!!!)[/p][/quote]They were liblabcon "plants" in the audience, Bwfc71 aka righteous one aka BIG ERN, aka Eric Draven :) laugh.[/p][/quote]YAWN!!! Only BWFC71 and Righteous One!!! Any one else who agrees with me is supportive of the facts and the REAL truth and I applaud them, unlike misguided souls like you who believe in make-believe and the Sun newspaper and The Mail newspaper (full of lies and contradictions and apologies for the lies they have previously mentioned!) But keep dreaming George X (does that mean that there are 9 other Georges before you in your family - how very original - or is that over your head as you don't understand roman numerals!) BWFC71

5:34pm Sun 26 Jan 14

BWFC71 says...

And just to even the number up....

George X is also Thomas222, Boltonchap and at least 3 other characters whom you don't ever see posting at the same time! It is also a reason as to why their posts always have the same number of "thumbs up" because it is the same person!
And just to even the number up.... George X is also Thomas222, Boltonchap and at least 3 other characters whom you don't ever see posting at the same time! It is also a reason as to why their posts always have the same number of "thumbs up" because it is the same person! BWFC71

6:46pm Sun 26 Jan 14

George X says...

BWFC71 wrote:
And just to even the number up....

George X is also Thomas222, Boltonchap and at least 3 other characters whom you don't ever see posting at the same time! It is also a reason as to why their posts always have the same number of "thumbs up" because it is the same person!
Wrong !! i've got a life buddy :) laugh
[quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: And just to even the number up.... George X is also Thomas222, Boltonchap and at least 3 other characters whom you don't ever see posting at the same time! It is also a reason as to why their posts always have the same number of "thumbs up" because it is the same person![/p][/quote]Wrong !! i've got a life buddy :) laugh George X

6:50pm Sun 26 Jan 14

George X says...

Eric Draven though hahaahah.
Eric Draven though hahaahah. George X

8:32pm Sun 26 Jan 14

BWFC71 says...

George X wrote:
BWFC71 wrote:
And just to even the number up....

George X is also Thomas222, Boltonchap and at least 3 other characters whom you don't ever see posting at the same time! It is also a reason as to why their posts always have the same number of "thumbs up" because it is the same person!
Wrong !! i've got a life buddy :) laugh
Just as much as you are wrong with regards to me!!!

I have no need for more than 2 accounts (1. work - due to the fact that work pc have Facebook blocked therefore have to enter the BN with an email/password - 2. Home pc via Facebook/password). Unlike you I have nothing to hide.

But unlike you who thrives on the thumbs and likes to give the thumbs, I don't give two hoots - the more thumbs don I get is just the same as the more thumbs up I get - means nothing. But at least posts are read, thus my viewpoint is passed on!

Funnily enough more and more posters are beginning to think like me and beginning to question you (and your multiple personas, or many cohorts, the viability of your posts as to whether they are made up or just pure lies)
[quote][p][bold]George X[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: And just to even the number up.... George X is also Thomas222, Boltonchap and at least 3 other characters whom you don't ever see posting at the same time! It is also a reason as to why their posts always have the same number of "thumbs up" because it is the same person![/p][/quote]Wrong !! i've got a life buddy :) laugh[/p][/quote]Just as much as you are wrong with regards to me!!! I have no need for more than 2 accounts (1. work - due to the fact that work pc have Facebook blocked therefore have to enter the BN with an email/password - 2. Home pc via Facebook/password). Unlike you I have nothing to hide. But unlike you who thrives on the thumbs and likes to give the thumbs, I don't give two hoots - the more thumbs don I get is just the same as the more thumbs up I get - means nothing. But at least posts are read, thus my viewpoint is passed on! Funnily enough more and more posters are beginning to think like me and beginning to question you (and your multiple personas, or many cohorts, the viability of your posts as to whether they are made up or just pure lies) BWFC71

8:36pm Sun 26 Jan 14

BWFC71 says...

George X wrote:
BWFC71 wrote:
mb63 wrote:
@BWFC71
I never said anything about stopping immigration; I never said anything about removing legitimate migrants.

The problem with migrant workers, is that, they are prepared to do low-skilled manual labour type jobs, for a low wage, whereas, a lot of British people would not.
Hence, Lincolnshire is full of migrants working in the fields picking vegetables.
The effect of this is that wages are kept down; it is not because British people are lazy, it is because migrants are prepared to be exploited.
But again, if you take Lincolnshire as the example - the locals" do not actually want to stop immigration their biggest problem is integration!!!! As was seen on Question Time towards the end of last year, when the majority in the audience actually laughed at, and booed, Nigel Farage with his extremists immigration views.

Also, staying with Farage, isn't it funny he now wants to distance himself from UKIP's 2010 manifesto - his own manifesto!

http://www.bbc.co.uk


/news/uk-politics-25


867585

So he is just as hypocritical as any other Banker and Politician (and funnily enough he is both!!!)
They were liblabcon "plants" in the audience, Bwfc71 aka righteous one aka BIG ERN, aka Eric Draven :) laugh.
Proof of your lies please.

Considering they wouldn't know who is joining the panel until a week before and the audience tickets are available up to a month before - does seem unlikely doesn't it! Also when applying for tickets the questionnaire does not ask as to which party you follow or believe in or suck up to (especially as it is a Mentorn Scotland programme and not a BBC programme)

The truth is more like what I said, and more factually correct.
[quote][p][bold]George X[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mb63[/bold] wrote: @BWFC71 I never said anything about stopping immigration; I never said anything about removing legitimate migrants. The problem with migrant workers, is that, they are prepared to do low-skilled manual labour type jobs, for a low wage, whereas, a lot of British people would not. Hence, Lincolnshire is full of migrants working in the fields picking vegetables. The effect of this is that wages are kept down; it is not because British people are lazy, it is because migrants are prepared to be exploited.[/p][/quote]But again, if you take Lincolnshire as the example - the locals" do not actually want to stop immigration their biggest problem is integration!!!! As was seen on Question Time towards the end of last year, when the majority in the audience actually laughed at, and booed, Nigel Farage with his extremists immigration views. Also, staying with Farage, isn't it funny he now wants to distance himself from UKIP's 2010 manifesto - his own manifesto! http://www.bbc.co.uk /news/uk-politics-25 867585 So he is just as hypocritical as any other Banker and Politician (and funnily enough he is both!!!)[/p][/quote]They were liblabcon "plants" in the audience, Bwfc71 aka righteous one aka BIG ERN, aka Eric Draven :) laugh.[/p][/quote]Proof of your lies please. Considering they wouldn't know who is joining the panel until a week before and the audience tickets are available up to a month before - does seem unlikely doesn't it! Also when applying for tickets the questionnaire does not ask as to which party you follow or believe in or suck up to (especially as it is a Mentorn Scotland programme and not a BBC programme) The truth is more like what I said, and more factually correct. BWFC71

9:13pm Sun 26 Jan 14

George X says...

BWFC71 wrote:
George X wrote:
BWFC71 wrote:
And just to even the number up....

George X is also Thomas222, Boltonchap and at least 3 other characters whom you don't ever see posting at the same time! It is also a reason as to why their posts always have the same number of "thumbs up" because it is the same person!
Wrong !! i've got a life buddy :) laugh
Just as much as you are wrong with regards to me!!!

I have no need for more than 2 accounts (1. work - due to the fact that work pc have Facebook blocked therefore have to enter the BN with an email/password - 2. Home pc via Facebook/password). Unlike you I have nothing to hide.

But unlike you who thrives on the thumbs and likes to give the thumbs, I don't give two hoots - the more thumbs don I get is just the same as the more thumbs up I get - means nothing. But at least posts are read, thus my viewpoint is passed on!

Funnily enough more and more posters are beginning to think like me and beginning to question you (and your multiple personas, or many cohorts, the viability of your posts as to whether they are made up or just pure lies)
I have read numerous posts of yours complaining of supposedly unfair thumbs down against you, in fact at one point you had posters on the edge of their seats thinking you were actually losing it, so dont come ithis i'm not bothered routine because you actually crave approval and when you get thumbed down you feel like crying dont you :)laugh
I wonder what your'e like at work = a$$ licker
[quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]George X[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: And just to even the number up.... George X is also Thomas222, Boltonchap and at least 3 other characters whom you don't ever see posting at the same time! It is also a reason as to why their posts always have the same number of "thumbs up" because it is the same person![/p][/quote]Wrong !! i've got a life buddy :) laugh[/p][/quote]Just as much as you are wrong with regards to me!!! I have no need for more than 2 accounts (1. work - due to the fact that work pc have Facebook blocked therefore have to enter the BN with an email/password - 2. Home pc via Facebook/password). Unlike you I have nothing to hide. But unlike you who thrives on the thumbs and likes to give the thumbs, I don't give two hoots - the more thumbs don I get is just the same as the more thumbs up I get - means nothing. But at least posts are read, thus my viewpoint is passed on! Funnily enough more and more posters are beginning to think like me and beginning to question you (and your multiple personas, or many cohorts, the viability of your posts as to whether they are made up or just pure lies)[/p][/quote]I have read numerous posts of yours complaining of supposedly unfair thumbs down against you, in fact at one point you had posters on the edge of their seats thinking you were actually losing it, so dont come ithis i'm not bothered routine because you actually crave approval and when you get thumbed down you feel like crying dont you :)laugh I wonder what your'e like at work = a$$ licker George X

9:30pm Sun 26 Jan 14

adatherton says...

thomas222 wrote:
LordLeverhulme wrote:
"It wouldn’t matter what party I am..... I don’t think who I am with would make a lot of difference" . Such a ringing endorsement of UKIP there. It's almost as if he's desperate to get back on the gravy train with any party that'll have him.
70% of the country want immigration stopped and similar out of europe. Whos fault is that.. UKIPS ?
It's about 18%, still worrying as the ONLY reason people want out of the EU, with all the losses that would entail (tariffs, travel visas etc) is to stop young Europeans coming here to work
[quote][p][bold]thomas222[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LordLeverhulme[/bold] wrote: "It wouldn’t matter what party I am..... I don’t think who I am with would make a lot of difference" . Such a ringing endorsement of UKIP there. It's almost as if he's desperate to get back on the gravy train with any party that'll have him.[/p][/quote]70% of the country want immigration stopped and similar out of europe. Whos fault is that.. UKIPS ?[/p][/quote]It's about 18%, still worrying as the ONLY reason people want out of the EU, with all the losses that would entail (tariffs, travel visas etc) is to stop young Europeans coming here to work adatherton

9:30pm Sun 26 Jan 14

adatherton says...

thomas222 wrote:
LordLeverhulme wrote:
"It wouldn’t matter what party I am..... I don’t think who I am with would make a lot of difference" . Such a ringing endorsement of UKIP there. It's almost as if he's desperate to get back on the gravy train with any party that'll have him.
70% of the country want immigration stopped and similar out of europe. Whos fault is that.. UKIPS ?
It's about 18%, still worrying as the ONLY reason people want out of the EU, with all the losses that would entail (tariffs, travel visas etc) is to stop young Europeans coming here to work
[quote][p][bold]thomas222[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LordLeverhulme[/bold] wrote: "It wouldn’t matter what party I am..... I don’t think who I am with would make a lot of difference" . Such a ringing endorsement of UKIP there. It's almost as if he's desperate to get back on the gravy train with any party that'll have him.[/p][/quote]70% of the country want immigration stopped and similar out of europe. Whos fault is that.. UKIPS ?[/p][/quote]It's about 18%, still worrying as the ONLY reason people want out of the EU, with all the losses that would entail (tariffs, travel visas etc) is to stop young Europeans coming here to work adatherton

9:58pm Sun 26 Jan 14

BWFC71 says...

adatherton wrote:
thomas222 wrote:
LordLeverhulme wrote:
"It wouldn’t matter what party I am..... I don’t think who I am with would make a lot of difference" . Such a ringing endorsement of UKIP there. It's almost as if he's desperate to get back on the gravy train with any party that'll have him.
70% of the country want immigration stopped and similar out of europe. Whos fault is that.. UKIPS ?
It's about 18%, still worrying as the ONLY reason people want out of the EU, with all the losses that would entail (tariffs, travel visas etc) is to stop young Europeans coming here to work
Never mind the work that would leave this country, amount of work that wouldn't come here as we would be too expensive!

Travelling abroad would be far harder for us as we would require visas to enter the EU (we would lose the privilege for easier entry and the only other way would be to sign a new treaty very similar to what Greenland has but that does come at an annual cost!), lose the benefits that the EU has given the overall majority of workers and we would lose funding for roads, railways, and other projects such as Spinningfields in Manchester! And then there are the financial cps that the EU has introduced such as Bankers bonuses, mobile phone roaming fees etc etc etc - and guess what that would mean for the British tax-payer - yep paying more taxes!!!
[quote][p][bold]adatherton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomas222[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LordLeverhulme[/bold] wrote: "It wouldn’t matter what party I am..... I don’t think who I am with would make a lot of difference" . Such a ringing endorsement of UKIP there. It's almost as if he's desperate to get back on the gravy train with any party that'll have him.[/p][/quote]70% of the country want immigration stopped and similar out of europe. Whos fault is that.. UKIPS ?[/p][/quote]It's about 18%, still worrying as the ONLY reason people want out of the EU, with all the losses that would entail (tariffs, travel visas etc) is to stop young Europeans coming here to work[/p][/quote]Never mind the work that would leave this country, amount of work that wouldn't come here as we would be too expensive! Travelling abroad would be far harder for us as we would require visas to enter the EU (we would lose the privilege for easier entry and the only other way would be to sign a new treaty very similar to what Greenland has but that does come at an annual cost!), lose the benefits that the EU has given the overall majority of workers and we would lose funding for roads, railways, and other projects such as Spinningfields in Manchester! And then there are the financial cps that the EU has introduced such as Bankers bonuses, mobile phone roaming fees etc etc etc - and guess what that would mean for the British tax-payer - yep paying more taxes!!! BWFC71

10:02pm Sun 26 Jan 14

BWFC71 says...

George X wrote:
BWFC71 wrote:
George X wrote:
BWFC71 wrote:
And just to even the number up....

George X is also Thomas222, Boltonchap and at least 3 other characters whom you don't ever see posting at the same time! It is also a reason as to why their posts always have the same number of "thumbs up" because it is the same person!
Wrong !! i've got a life buddy :) laugh
Just as much as you are wrong with regards to me!!!

I have no need for more than 2 accounts (1. work - due to the fact that work pc have Facebook blocked therefore have to enter the BN with an email/password - 2. Home pc via Facebook/password). Unlike you I have nothing to hide.

But unlike you who thrives on the thumbs and likes to give the thumbs, I don't give two hoots - the more thumbs don I get is just the same as the more thumbs up I get - means nothing. But at least posts are read, thus my viewpoint is passed on!

Funnily enough more and more posters are beginning to think like me and beginning to question you (and your multiple personas, or many cohorts, the viability of your posts as to whether they are made up or just pure lies)
I have read numerous posts of yours complaining of supposedly unfair thumbs down against you, in fact at one point you had posters on the edge of their seats thinking you were actually losing it, so dont come ithis i'm not bothered routine because you actually crave approval and when you get thumbed down you feel like crying dont you :)laugh
I wonder what your'e like at work = a$$ licker
I know that there is a cartel, which you belong to, that actually email amongst friends to make sure the thumbs down is pressed and make posts look bad - it was discovered by another poster who has you and your cohorts wrath on a news report about 3 weeks ago!

And as I say it doesn't bother me - it just makes you look stupid and pathetic - it doesn't stop me from posting, though!!!

And yet another insult - you are full of them - I wonder what you are like at work = a$$hole and possibly just on the basic wage because of you attitude to other human beings and your extremist views.
[quote][p][bold]George X[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]George X[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: And just to even the number up.... George X is also Thomas222, Boltonchap and at least 3 other characters whom you don't ever see posting at the same time! It is also a reason as to why their posts always have the same number of "thumbs up" because it is the same person![/p][/quote]Wrong !! i've got a life buddy :) laugh[/p][/quote]Just as much as you are wrong with regards to me!!! I have no need for more than 2 accounts (1. work - due to the fact that work pc have Facebook blocked therefore have to enter the BN with an email/password - 2. Home pc via Facebook/password). Unlike you I have nothing to hide. But unlike you who thrives on the thumbs and likes to give the thumbs, I don't give two hoots - the more thumbs don I get is just the same as the more thumbs up I get - means nothing. But at least posts are read, thus my viewpoint is passed on! Funnily enough more and more posters are beginning to think like me and beginning to question you (and your multiple personas, or many cohorts, the viability of your posts as to whether they are made up or just pure lies)[/p][/quote]I have read numerous posts of yours complaining of supposedly unfair thumbs down against you, in fact at one point you had posters on the edge of their seats thinking you were actually losing it, so dont come ithis i'm not bothered routine because you actually crave approval and when you get thumbed down you feel like crying dont you :)laugh I wonder what your'e like at work = a$$ licker[/p][/quote]I know that there is a cartel, which you belong to, that actually email amongst friends to make sure the thumbs down is pressed and make posts look bad - it was discovered by another poster who has you and your cohorts wrath on a news report about 3 weeks ago! And as I say it doesn't bother me - it just makes you look stupid and pathetic - it doesn't stop me from posting, though!!! And yet another insult - you are full of them - I wonder what you are like at work = a$$hole and possibly just on the basic wage because of you attitude to other human beings and your extremist views. BWFC71

10:31pm Sun 26 Jan 14

George X says...

BWFC71 wrote:
George X wrote:
BWFC71 wrote:
George X wrote:
BWFC71 wrote:
And just to even the number up....

George X is also Thomas222, Boltonchap and at least 3 other characters whom you don't ever see posting at the same time! It is also a reason as to why their posts always have the same number of "thumbs up" because it is the same person!
Wrong !! i've got a life buddy :) laugh
Just as much as you are wrong with regards to me!!!

I have no need for more than 2 accounts (1. work - due to the fact that work pc have Facebook blocked therefore have to enter the BN with an email/password - 2. Home pc via Facebook/password). Unlike you I have nothing to hide.

But unlike you who thrives on the thumbs and likes to give the thumbs, I don't give two hoots - the more thumbs don I get is just the same as the more thumbs up I get - means nothing. But at least posts are read, thus my viewpoint is passed on!

Funnily enough more and more posters are beginning to think like me and beginning to question you (and your multiple personas, or many cohorts, the viability of your posts as to whether they are made up or just pure lies)
I have read numerous posts of yours complaining of supposedly unfair thumbs down against you, in fact at one point you had posters on the edge of their seats thinking you were actually losing it, so dont come ithis i'm not bothered routine because you actually crave approval and when you get thumbed down you feel like crying dont you :)laugh
I wonder what your'e like at work = a$$ licker
I know that there is a cartel, which you belong to, that actually email amongst friends to make sure the thumbs down is pressed and make posts look bad - it was discovered by another poster who has you and your cohorts wrath on a news report about 3 weeks ago!

And as I say it doesn't bother me - it just makes you look stupid and pathetic - it doesn't stop me from posting, though!!!

And yet another insult - you are full of them - I wonder what you are like at work = a$$hole and possibly just on the basic wage because of you attitude to other human beings and your extremist views.
Did you just insult me ? oh just wait until julian here's about this !!
However will i sleep tonight :) laugh
[quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]George X[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]George X[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: And just to even the number up.... George X is also Thomas222, Boltonchap and at least 3 other characters whom you don't ever see posting at the same time! It is also a reason as to why their posts always have the same number of "thumbs up" because it is the same person![/p][/quote]Wrong !! i've got a life buddy :) laugh[/p][/quote]Just as much as you are wrong with regards to me!!! I have no need for more than 2 accounts (1. work - due to the fact that work pc have Facebook blocked therefore have to enter the BN with an email/password - 2. Home pc via Facebook/password). Unlike you I have nothing to hide. But unlike you who thrives on the thumbs and likes to give the thumbs, I don't give two hoots - the more thumbs don I get is just the same as the more thumbs up I get - means nothing. But at least posts are read, thus my viewpoint is passed on! Funnily enough more and more posters are beginning to think like me and beginning to question you (and your multiple personas, or many cohorts, the viability of your posts as to whether they are made up or just pure lies)[/p][/quote]I have read numerous posts of yours complaining of supposedly unfair thumbs down against you, in fact at one point you had posters on the edge of their seats thinking you were actually losing it, so dont come ithis i'm not bothered routine because you actually crave approval and when you get thumbed down you feel like crying dont you :)laugh I wonder what your'e like at work = a$$ licker[/p][/quote]I know that there is a cartel, which you belong to, that actually email amongst friends to make sure the thumbs down is pressed and make posts look bad - it was discovered by another poster who has you and your cohorts wrath on a news report about 3 weeks ago! And as I say it doesn't bother me - it just makes you look stupid and pathetic - it doesn't stop me from posting, though!!! And yet another insult - you are full of them - I wonder what you are like at work = a$$hole and possibly just on the basic wage because of you attitude to other human beings and your extremist views.[/p][/quote]Did you just insult me ? oh just wait until julian here's about this !! However will i sleep tonight :) laugh George X

10:33pm Sun 26 Jan 14

George X says...

Cartel pffft your'e off your rocker .
Cartel pffft your'e off your rocker . George X

10:51pm Sun 26 Jan 14

BWFC71 says...

George X wrote:
Cartel pffft your'e off your rocker .
Funnily enough it was another poster that found out about it, and not me - and the poster was proved correct!

So read into that what you want!

So can you advise as to when you will post a level-headed fact accurate(backed up with appropriate evidence) comment on here or are you just here to cause trouble?
[quote][p][bold]George X[/bold] wrote: Cartel pffft your'e off your rocker .[/p][/quote]Funnily enough it was another poster that found out about it, and not me - and the poster was proved correct! So read into that what you want! So can you advise as to when you will post a level-headed fact accurate(backed up with appropriate evidence) comment on here or are you just here to cause trouble? BWFC71

7:34am Mon 27 Jan 14

George X says...

Paranoia is what i read into it, you get negative thumbs because people don't like your overbearing, self righteous, sanctimonious lies.
Nothing else :) laugh
Paranoia is what i read into it, you get negative thumbs because people don't like your overbearing, self righteous, sanctimonious lies. Nothing else :) laugh George X

11:38am Mon 27 Jan 14

The Righteous One says...

George X wrote:
Paranoia is what i read into it, you get negative thumbs because people don't like your overbearing, self righteous, sanctimonious lies.
Nothing else :) laugh
As I say it means nothing because I do keep posting whether I negative views from a select few or not. One cannot please all of the people all of the time - especially when some are veru right-winged!
[quote][p][bold]George X[/bold] wrote: Paranoia is what i read into it, you get negative thumbs because people don't like your overbearing, self righteous, sanctimonious lies. Nothing else :) laugh[/p][/quote]As I say it means nothing because I do keep posting whether I negative views from a select few or not. One cannot please all of the people all of the time - especially when some are veru right-winged! The Righteous One

6:55pm Mon 27 Jan 14

DavidSmeth says...

Lever was a bloody useless counsellor. He only attended 4 meetings in the last year before him being kicked out of the Tories, just enough to keep his pay packet. People should look at the work ethic of other ukip counsellors around the country. When they get elected they do nothing, just like Lever did.
Lever was a bloody useless counsellor. He only attended 4 meetings in the last year before him being kicked out of the Tories, just enough to keep his pay packet. People should look at the work ethic of other ukip counsellors around the country. When they get elected they do nothing, just like Lever did. DavidSmeth

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