Emotions run high at Horwich planning meeting

The Bolton News: Horwich Public Hall, where Horwich Town Council meets. Picture from Google Maps. Horwich Public Hall, where Horwich Town Council meets. Picture from Google Maps.

EMOTIONS ran high during a planning meeting at Horwich Town Council.

Residents spoke out against the re-submission of an application for a building on green belt land at Cotswold Drive, Horwich.

The land has previously been described as "similar to a concentration camp" by neighbours.

The applicants, Kevin and Gillian Gaskell, of Pennine Road, Horwich, want to build a portal-framed building for housing livestock, storing agricultural equipment and stabling horses as well as a manege for excercising the horses.

Gillian Gaskell said: "This application is for personal use and is not a commercial venture, we just want to provide a healthy environment for our animals and that allows us to pursue our lifestyle.

"This process has caused us anxiety and distress, particularly with some of the hurtful comments residents have said, like the comparison to a concentration camp."

Several residents spoke out against the plans, John Lawton said: "The applicants priority is their lifestyle but this is about everyone in Horwich, it is bigger than one family, there are open aspects to the land that other people enjoy."

Cllr Richard Silvester criticised the applicants, stating: "What you have done is antagonise residents for no reason, you have already carried out unauthorised work in the green belt and I don't blame these residents for objecting to the plans."

The council voted to recommend that the plans are rejected when they go before Bolton Council's planning committee.

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10:42pm Thu 23 Jan 14

mr.mark.c says...

What is the point of a Horwich council if the decision is to be made by Bolton council?
Oh and its recommend not reccomend ;)
What is the point of a Horwich council if the decision is to be made by Bolton council? Oh and its recommend not reccomend ;) mr.mark.c
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11:47pm Thu 23 Jan 14

bigbob123 says...

mr.mark.c wrote:
What is the point of a Horwich council if the decision is to be made by Bolton council?
Oh and its recommend not reccomend ;)
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[quote][p][bold]mr.mark.c[/bold] wrote: What is the point of a Horwich council if the decision is to be made by Bolton council? Oh and its recommend not reccomend ;)[/p][/quote]**** bigbob123
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11:50pm Thu 23 Jan 14

bigbob123 says...

mr.mark.c wrote:
What is the point of a Horwich council if the decision is to be made by Bolton council?
Oh and its recommend not reccomend ;)
W @ N K E R
[quote][p][bold]mr.mark.c[/bold] wrote: What is the point of a Horwich council if the decision is to be made by Bolton council? Oh and its recommend not reccomend ;)[/p][/quote]W @ N K E R bigbob123
  • Score: -9

1:10am Fri 24 Jan 14

getajob123 says...

wow............... sounds thrilling !!!!! in other news a crisp packet blew across the road today
wow............... sounds thrilling !!!!! in other news a crisp packet blew across the road today getajob123
  • Score: -6

9:44am Fri 24 Jan 14

bwfc0210 says...

mr.mark.c wrote:
What is the point of a Horwich council if the decision is to be made by Bolton council? Oh and its recommend not reccomend ;)
Should your its not be it's then?
[quote][p][bold]mr.mark.c[/bold] wrote: What is the point of a Horwich council if the decision is to be made by Bolton council? Oh and its recommend not reccomend ;)[/p][/quote]Should your its not be it's then? bwfc0210
  • Score: 9

10:51am Fri 24 Jan 14

Phil from Smithills says...

Their powers stopped when in 1974 under the Local government Re-Organisation Act powers were transfered to Bolton Metro Council.

As Horich Council have stated their views, Bolton should/must accept and support Horwich Council.
Their powers stopped when in 1974 under the Local government Re-Organisation Act powers were transfered to Bolton Metro Council. As Horich Council have stated their views, Bolton should/must accept and support Horwich Council. Phil from Smithills
  • Score: 9

10:52am Fri 24 Jan 14

FreedomOfSpeech1945 says...

Nothing should be built on Green Belt land, period!
Nothing should be built on Green Belt land, period! FreedomOfSpeech1945
  • Score: 15

3:06pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Phil from Smithills says...

And for those who oppose local councils such as Horwich, Westhoughton and Blackrod its is called democracy.

They have more local knowledge of their area than Bolton Metro Council, who should and must adhere to their views.
And for those who oppose local councils such as Horwich, Westhoughton and Blackrod its is called democracy. They have more local knowledge of their area than Bolton Metro Council, who should and must adhere to their views. Phil from Smithills
  • Score: 1

3:08pm Fri 24 Jan 14

marco999 says...

I agree with the previous comment that nothing should be built on Green belt land. The arrogance and selfishness of some people is breathtaking.
I agree with the previous comment that nothing should be built on Green belt land. The arrogance and selfishness of some people is breathtaking. marco999
  • Score: 6

6:32pm Fri 24 Jan 14

KathHW says...

The greenbelt is for the enjoyment of all. If someone wants a farm they should buy a farm, not develop our beautiful countryside for their own hobby and slowly play the game of putting a livestock building on, then a caravan, then a house,.,,Keep Rivington special!
The greenbelt is for the enjoyment of all. If someone wants a farm they should buy a farm, not develop our beautiful countryside for their own hobby and slowly play the game of putting a livestock building on, then a caravan, then a house,.,,Keep Rivington special! KathHW
  • Score: 6

7:01pm Fri 24 Jan 14

mr.mark.c says...

bwfc0210 wrote:
mr.mark.c wrote:
What is the point of a Horwich council if the decision is to be made by Bolton council? Oh and its recommend not reccomend ;)
Should your its not be it's then?
Broken keyboard, I cant type @ either
[quote][p][bold]bwfc0210[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mr.mark.c[/bold] wrote: What is the point of a Horwich council if the decision is to be made by Bolton council? Oh and its recommend not reccomend ;)[/p][/quote]Should your its not be it's then?[/p][/quote]Broken keyboard, I cant type @ either mr.mark.c
  • Score: 3

9:09pm Fri 24 Jan 14

steverock6@sky.com says...

unfortunately Bolton is the planning authority Horwich council can't change that I believe that Horwich should decide on their own planning applications if we did not have a Horwich council Bolton would spend even more money on themselves just look at the areas that have no council anymore like Farnworth, Kearsly and how they are neglected by Bolton council support your local council and if you would like to make things better why not become a councillor!
unfortunately Bolton is the planning authority Horwich council can't change that I believe that Horwich should decide on their own planning applications if we did not have a Horwich council Bolton would spend even more money on themselves just look at the areas that have no council anymore like Farnworth, Kearsly and how they are neglected by Bolton council support your local council and if you would like to make things better why not become a councillor! steverock6@sky.com
  • Score: 2

9:19pm Fri 24 Jan 14

mr.mark.c says...

steverock6@sky.com wrote:
unfortunately Bolton is the planning authority Horwich council can't change that I believe that Horwich should decide on their own planning applications if we did not have a Horwich council Bolton would spend even more money on themselves just look at the areas that have no council anymore like Farnworth, Kearsly and how they are neglected by Bolton council support your local council and if you would like to make things better why not become a councillor!
Agreed, local council for local people.
Its rather sad that it doesnt work that way, I live in Kearsley and yes we are the land that Bolton forgot, I fear the others will go the same way soon giving Bolton the ultimate power, then Manchester will take over leaving Bolton just like Kearsley is now.
[quote][p][bold]steverock6@sky.com[/bold] wrote: unfortunately Bolton is the planning authority Horwich council can't change that I believe that Horwich should decide on their own planning applications if we did not have a Horwich council Bolton would spend even more money on themselves just look at the areas that have no council anymore like Farnworth, Kearsly and how they are neglected by Bolton council support your local council and if you would like to make things better why not become a councillor![/p][/quote]Agreed, local council for local people. Its rather sad that it doesnt work that way, I live in Kearsley and yes we are the land that Bolton forgot, I fear the others will go the same way soon giving Bolton the ultimate power, then Manchester will take over leaving Bolton just like Kearsley is now. mr.mark.c
  • Score: 2

9:28pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Brumas says...

Phil from Smithills wrote:
Their powers stopped when in 1974 under the Local government Re-Organisation Act powers were transfered to Bolton Metro Council.

As Horich Council have stated their views, Bolton should/must accept and support Horwich Council.
Bolton MBC may support them in this case, but what would they do if Horwich refused a three hundred home development - overturn.
[quote][p][bold]Phil from Smithills[/bold] wrote: Their powers stopped when in 1974 under the Local government Re-Organisation Act powers were transfered to Bolton Metro Council. As Horich Council have stated their views, Bolton should/must accept and support Horwich Council.[/p][/quote]Bolton MBC may support them in this case, but what would they do if Horwich refused a three hundred home development - overturn. Brumas
  • Score: -1

9:37pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Brumas says...

Phil from Smithills wrote:
And for those who oppose local councils such as Horwich, Westhoughton and Blackrod its is called democracy.

They have more local knowledge of their area than Bolton Metro Council, who should and must adhere to their views.
The above statement proves you know nothing of Town Councils, One Councilor certainly does NOT live in the area and one is of unknown abode. Also if you ever attend a planning meeting, you may hear someone say "Just where in Horwich is this?
Should and must adhere to their views? But never do on really important matters.
[quote][p][bold]Phil from Smithills[/bold] wrote: And for those who oppose local councils such as Horwich, Westhoughton and Blackrod its is called democracy. They have more local knowledge of their area than Bolton Metro Council, who should and must adhere to their views.[/p][/quote]The above statement proves you know nothing of Town Councils, One Councilor certainly does NOT live in the area and one is of unknown abode. Also if you ever attend a planning meeting, you may hear someone say "Just where in Horwich is this? Should and must adhere to their views? But never do on really important matters. Brumas
  • Score: 2

9:42pm Fri 24 Jan 14

ownerdriver says...

Phil from Smithills wrote:
Their powers stopped when in 1974 under the Local government Re-Organisation Act powers were transfered to Bolton Metro Council.

As Horich Council have stated their views, Bolton should/must accept and support Horwich Council.
When as Bolton Council ever done anything that the people want ? If the majority want Black then Bolton Council will always give White.
[quote][p][bold]Phil from Smithills[/bold] wrote: Their powers stopped when in 1974 under the Local government Re-Organisation Act powers were transfered to Bolton Metro Council. As Horich Council have stated their views, Bolton should/must accept and support Horwich Council.[/p][/quote]When as Bolton Council ever done anything that the people want ? If the majority want Black then Bolton Council will always give White. ownerdriver
  • Score: 3

9:54pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Brumas says...

steverock6@sky.com wrote:
unfortunately Bolton is the planning authority Horwich council can't change that I believe that Horwich should decide on their own planning applications if we did not have a Horwich council Bolton would spend even more money on themselves just look at the areas that have no council anymore like Farnworth, Kearsly and how they are neglected by Bolton council support your local council and if you would like to make things better why not become a councillor!
Steve, what you suggest you know is Pie in the Sky. Also how are you suggesting that Horwich is better off than unparished areas of Bolton?
Horwich is just has neglected has the areas you mention despite having a Town Council. Regards being a Town Councillor, it is the most frustrating thing to be (As your statement shows) when you know you have no power to influence anything of importance.
[quote][p][bold]steverock6@sky.com[/bold] wrote: unfortunately Bolton is the planning authority Horwich council can't change that I believe that Horwich should decide on their own planning applications if we did not have a Horwich council Bolton would spend even more money on themselves just look at the areas that have no council anymore like Farnworth, Kearsly and how they are neglected by Bolton council support your local council and if you would like to make things better why not become a councillor![/p][/quote]Steve, what you suggest you know is Pie in the Sky. Also how are you suggesting that Horwich is better off than unparished areas of Bolton? Horwich is just has neglected has the areas you mention despite having a Town Council. Regards being a Town Councillor, it is the most frustrating thing to be (As your statement shows) when you know you have no power to influence anything of importance. Brumas
  • Score: 0

10:48pm Wed 29 Jan 14

GLASGOW1 says...

Clearly people have short memories, I actually remember when there was no houses on the extension of Cotswold drive and some of the new houses were actually built on green belt land. I also think to use the expression of "a concentration camp" is in poor taste to say the least. Lastly, horses' have been housed on the land in question for longer than the houses have been there, it is clearly not an eyesore. I walk past there on most days and if anything was to be added it would only enhance the area and not detract from it.
Clearly people have short memories, I actually remember when there was no houses on the extension of Cotswold drive and some of the new houses were actually built on green belt land. I also think to use the expression of "a concentration camp" is in poor taste to say the least. Lastly, horses' have been housed on the land in question for longer than the houses have been there, it is clearly not an eyesore. I walk past there on most days and if anything was to be added it would only enhance the area and not detract from it. GLASGOW1
  • Score: -1

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