Plan to demolish Green Bengal in Bromley Cross delayed

The Bolton News: The historic site of the former Green Bengal restaurant in Bromley Cross The historic site of the former Green Bengal restaurant in Bromley Cross

THE fate of the former Green Bengal restaurant in Bromley Cross still hangs in the balance, after councillors deferred making a decision on plans for a Sainsbury’s store.

Developers CW Construction applied to demolish the building in Darwen Road, which used to be home to The Volunteer pub, and build a new Sainsbury’s shop, two commercial units and a car park.

The plans were met with horror by local councillors and residents, who argued that proposals for the historic building, which was the birthplace of the Lancashire FA, should be more thought through.

Bromley Cross councillor David Greenhalgh, who is not a member of the planning committee, attended to speak against the application.

He said he was disappointed that the building was planned for demolition and said he was concerned about whether car parking spaces were provided within the plans.

Cllr Greenhalgh said: “There are going to be up to 20 new jobs created with these plans, which is welcome. We know they won’t be all on site at the same time, but unless these people are local they will drive, probably around 10 cars on site.

“With customers to the food shop and the other retail units, we know more cars will end up on residential streets. The number of car parking spaces is inadequate.

“And I don’t think it’s beyond the realms of possibility that these will be used as a commuter car park, as the site is close to the station.”

Cllr Norman Critchley, who also represents Bromley Cross, voted to defer a decision on the application to see whether the developers would be willing to reduce the number of units on the site.

He also recommended that vehicles entering or leaving the site must be in a forward gear, to stop heavy-duty lorries blocking up the busy road.

Cllr Critchley said: “I don’t have any problem with the site. I think the proposal will provide a very good retail use of that site and provide facilities for the local community. But I’m very concerned about the parking. I’m worried to send the wrong message to the developers altogether.”

— I’m happy with the plans but I do believe there are one too many units.”

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9:55am Fri 7 Feb 14

Comment777 says...

What did I suggest here when these plans were first announced. The plans submitted are a total over development of the site. The discussions regarding too few parking spaces are now taking place with no objection to the monstrosity of a building forming the bulk of the development.

What will now happen is the developer will comply by removing from the plans the two units separate from the main building ( there was never any intention to build these) and you have 10+ extra parking places with the new plans being passed without a word of support for what is a historical part of Bromley Cross' history.

All those who have not spoken out against these plans deserve what you get, a Village that has become a small town, with blocked roads, violence and crime, dirty unmaintained infrastructure, multi-cultural Christian schools (not racist, just weird), a new improved accident blackspot and a loss of all green spaces....I am so pleased with my decision to leave what once was a true village where people cared for each other not just what they have bought or can buy....
What did I suggest here when these plans were first announced. The plans submitted are a total over development of the site. The discussions regarding too few parking spaces are now taking place with no objection to the monstrosity of a building forming the bulk of the development. What will now happen is the developer will comply by removing from the plans the two units separate from the main building ( there was never any intention to build these) and you have 10+ extra parking places with the new plans being passed without a word of support for what is a historical part of Bromley Cross' history. All those who have not spoken out against these plans deserve what you get, a Village that has become a small town, with blocked roads, violence and crime, dirty unmaintained infrastructure, multi-cultural Christian schools (not racist, just weird), a new improved accident blackspot and a loss of all green spaces....I am so pleased with my decision to leave what once was a true village where people cared for each other not just what they have bought or can buy.... Comment777
  • Score: -6

9:58am Fri 7 Feb 14

Comment777 says...

Plan to knock down Stag's Head pub in Deane rejected....see headlines today from Bolton News...historical interest!!!!
Plan to knock down Stag's Head pub in Deane rejected....see headlines today from Bolton News...historical interest!!!! Comment777
  • Score: 0

9:59am Fri 7 Feb 14

Comment777 says...

Critchley,what have you been given to support this scheme????
Critchley,what have you been given to support this scheme???? Comment777
  • Score: 2

10:54am Fri 7 Feb 14

Count de Monet says...

Comment777 wrote:
Plan to knock down Stag's Head pub in Deane rejected....see headlines today from Bolton News...historical interest!!!!
The Stag's Head is the oldest pub in Deane. It was once a farmhouse serving ale to passengers on stagecoaches, travelling along what we know as Junction Road and Deane Church Lane.
[quote][p][bold]Comment777[/bold] wrote: Plan to knock down Stag's Head pub in Deane rejected....see headlines today from Bolton News...historical interest!!!![/p][/quote]The Stag's Head is the oldest pub in Deane. It was once a farmhouse serving ale to passengers on stagecoaches, travelling along what we know as Junction Road and Deane Church Lane. Count de Monet
  • Score: 5

11:52am Fri 7 Feb 14

BlueRay79 says...

Cllr Critchley is an ar$eh0le. I think he's part retired and pokes his nose in when he feels like it. Ask him for help in your area and see what he does.....nothing!
Cllr Critchley is an ar$eh0le. I think he's part retired and pokes his nose in when he feels like it. Ask him for help in your area and see what he does.....nothing! BlueRay79
  • Score: 0

1:46pm Fri 7 Feb 14

tenaciousp says...

Comment777 wrote:
What did I suggest here when these plans were first announced. The plans submitted are a total over development of the site. The discussions regarding too few parking spaces are now taking place with no objection to the monstrosity of a building forming the bulk of the development.

What will now happen is the developer will comply by removing from the plans the two units separate from the main building ( there was never any intention to build these) and you have 10+ extra parking places with the new plans being passed without a word of support for what is a historical part of Bromley Cross' history.

All those who have not spoken out against these plans deserve what you get, a Village that has become a small town, with blocked roads, violence and crime, dirty unmaintained infrastructure, multi-cultural Christian schools (not racist, just weird), a new improved accident blackspot and a loss of all green spaces....I am so pleased with my decision to leave what once was a true village where people cared for each other not just what they have bought or can buy....
What are you moaning about if you don't live there anymore then? Before you say for the people who live there now - I do.
[quote][p][bold]Comment777[/bold] wrote: What did I suggest here when these plans were first announced. The plans submitted are a total over development of the site. The discussions regarding too few parking spaces are now taking place with no objection to the monstrosity of a building forming the bulk of the development. What will now happen is the developer will comply by removing from the plans the two units separate from the main building ( there was never any intention to build these) and you have 10+ extra parking places with the new plans being passed without a word of support for what is a historical part of Bromley Cross' history. All those who have not spoken out against these plans deserve what you get, a Village that has become a small town, with blocked roads, violence and crime, dirty unmaintained infrastructure, multi-cultural Christian schools (not racist, just weird), a new improved accident blackspot and a loss of all green spaces....I am so pleased with my decision to leave what once was a true village where people cared for each other not just what they have bought or can buy....[/p][/quote]What are you moaning about if you don't live there anymore then? Before you say for the people who live there now - I do. tenaciousp
  • Score: 4

1:56pm Fri 7 Feb 14

tenaciousp says...

Why is everybody up in arms? I live just over the road from the planned development and give me a Sainsburys any day of the week over a noisy pub or an Indian restaurant. I have lived in the same house for 20 years and I can tell you that the Volunteer was a dump with noise going on into the early hours of the morning - contravening any agreed licensing terms, the Green Bengal was a poor effort and from the look of the premises upstairs windows a dump.

What are people suggesting is done with the site? It can't work as a pub or a restaurant that has been proven - more houses? No thanks.

People are concerned about parking I understand that - since the premises were sold the car park has been blocked off meaning that those who did park their cars on it whilst it was the Green Bengal have had to find alternative places to do so - I've not noticed a major difference and as I say I live over the road. Its an eyesore, drop the lot and lets have a responsible retailer on it.

Personally I don't see the point in Sainsburys opening up as there is a Co Op and Bargain Booze 8 houses away - but who am I to argue - they're not daft enough to have not done their research.

For those moaning about the state of Bromley Cross - who has made it this way? Do we have interlopers arriving to cause traffic mayhem, parking chaos, litter and crime (maybe the latter yes) but look closer to home if you want to improve your environment.

The precinct further up the road IS an absolute disgrace, dirty and in need of dropping!

The Co Op is over-priced with over familiar staff and miserable staff in the Post Office - I hope at least we may get a better offer and service from J Sainsbury and a few more jobs too for local people.

I think that covers it.
Why is everybody up in arms? I live just over the road from the planned development and give me a Sainsburys any day of the week over a noisy pub or an Indian restaurant. I have lived in the same house for 20 years and I can tell you that the Volunteer was a dump with noise going on into the early hours of the morning - contravening any agreed licensing terms, the Green Bengal was a poor effort and from the look of the premises upstairs windows a dump. What are people suggesting is done with the site? It can't work as a pub or a restaurant that has been proven - more houses? No thanks. People are concerned about parking I understand that - since the premises were sold the car park has been blocked off meaning that those who did park their cars on it whilst it was the Green Bengal have had to find alternative places to do so - I've not noticed a major difference and as I say I live over the road. Its an eyesore, drop the lot and lets have a responsible retailer on it. Personally I don't see the point in Sainsburys opening up as there is a Co Op and Bargain Booze 8 houses away - but who am I to argue - they're not daft enough to have not done their research. For those moaning about the state of Bromley Cross - who has made it this way? Do we have interlopers arriving to cause traffic mayhem, parking chaos, litter and crime (maybe the latter yes) but look closer to home if you want to improve your environment. The precinct further up the road IS an absolute disgrace, dirty and in need of dropping! The Co Op is over-priced with over familiar staff and miserable staff in the Post Office - I hope at least we may get a better offer and service from J Sainsbury and a few more jobs too for local people. I think that covers it. tenaciousp
  • Score: 8

2:27pm Fri 7 Feb 14

I, Ludicrous says...

Just wondering if Comment777 could let us know when last Bromley Cross was 'a true village' and how he qualifies 'true village' status exactly?
Just wondering if Comment777 could let us know when last Bromley Cross was 'a true village' and how he qualifies 'true village' status exactly? I, Ludicrous
  • Score: 3

5:59pm Fri 7 Feb 14

pecky2k says...

Here we go again, we had this discussion a few weeks back about a second supermarket, stick with the Co-Op, end of!!
Here we go again, we had this discussion a few weeks back about a second supermarket, stick with the Co-Op, end of!! pecky2k
  • Score: -1

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