Hundreds sign our petition to improve Bolton's overcrowded trains

The Bolton News: Commuter Stuart Tilley signs our petition with reporter Elaine O’Flynn Commuter Stuart Tilley signs our petition with reporter Elaine O’Flynn

THE Let’s Get Back On Track campaign has been a runaway success.

Hundreds of readers have been clamouring for more carriages and an end to overcrowding by contacting The Bolton News via email, phone and in person.

We have taken our petition to the streets, collecting signatures from fed-up commuters outside Bolton railway station, and even raised the issue with Prime Minister David Cameron when he visited our offices.

The Bolton News has been banned from attending a crunch meeting between the Department for Transport and Bolton’s three MPs about the issue — after train bosses said it was “a serious meeting, not a press conference”.

So it is more vital than ever that you sign our petition, so we can share your concerns and opinions with train bosses and the government and make sure the voices of Bolton’s residents are heard.

One of the signatories, Andrew Short, from Green Meadows in Westhoughton, said it was high time Bolton’s trains received more carriages.

He said: “There is not enough capacity on the trains, especially during rush hour. On most trains there isn’t even standing room, and if you are lucky enough to get on, you are crammed in like sardines.”

Sue Peacock, from Harwood, signed our petition after saying she has had panic attacks on the trains between Bolton to Manchester because of the “cattle truck” carriages.

The 46-year-old said: “I have just moved to Bolton from London where most trains are 12 carriages long and I cannot believe the state of the transport system in Manchester.

“The cost of transport and the lack of an Oyster card-type of system means that we pay more for travel by public transport yet we get a sub-standard, third world service.”

Marie Brady, aged 53, has commuted between Horwich and Manchester Piccadilly for the last 15 years.

She said: “When is this government going to give us some more rolling stock? The lack of it must be damaging to our economy and is definitely damaging to the health of those who use these cattle trucks.”

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4:40pm Mon 24 Feb 14

David 1957 says...

More rolling stock will be available when the line is electrified.
More rolling stock will be available when the line is electrified. David 1957

5:41pm Mon 24 Feb 14

Lynn57 says...

Bolton station is like a seventies eastern bloc type of station. Glum, dilapidated, freezing old fashioned and tatty. There is not even enough room to stand in the waiting room at peak times. It is one of the largest towns in Europe and needs dragging into the 20th let alone the 21st century. Roll on the new interchange although goodness only knows how long it will all take to link it to the bus stn. I have had to conquer my panic attacks due to claustrophobia on the 08.55 to Manchester.
Bolton station is like a seventies eastern bloc type of station. Glum, dilapidated, freezing old fashioned and tatty. There is not even enough room to stand in the waiting room at peak times. It is one of the largest towns in Europe and needs dragging into the 20th let alone the 21st century. Roll on the new interchange although goodness only knows how long it will all take to link it to the bus stn. I have had to conquer my panic attacks due to claustrophobia on the 08.55 to Manchester. Lynn57

7:03pm Mon 24 Feb 14

BWFC71 says...

David 1957 wrote:
More rolling stock will be available when the line is electrified.
No it won't.

Any spare rolling stock by Northern will firstly be used on the newly open direct line between Manchester and Burnley which currently has NO trains!

Any spare trains after that will have to conform to the DDA and that does not include most of the rolling stock (aka Class 142's) which HAVE to be withdrawn from service by 2019

Also they do not automatically have to right to use any of the spare rolling stock - as that will have to be agreed by the DfT and currently they are taking any spare rolling stock for the South East!!!

Also the so-called new electric trains being used by TOOE are only on loan from another Train Operating Company for 3 years of which then they will revert back to the original loanee which are based in the South East - so what will run of the Glasgow trains, then???
[quote][p][bold]David 1957[/bold] wrote: More rolling stock will be available when the line is electrified.[/p][/quote]No it won't. Any spare rolling stock by Northern will firstly be used on the newly open direct line between Manchester and Burnley which currently has NO trains! Any spare trains after that will have to conform to the DDA and that does not include most of the rolling stock (aka Class 142's) which HAVE to be withdrawn from service by 2019 Also they do not automatically have to right to use any of the spare rolling stock - as that will have to be agreed by the DfT and currently they are taking any spare rolling stock for the South East!!! Also the so-called new electric trains being used by TOOE are only on loan from another Train Operating Company for 3 years of which then they will revert back to the original loanee which are based in the South East - so what will run of the Glasgow trains, then??? BWFC71

7:07pm Mon 24 Feb 14

BWFC71 says...

Lynn57 wrote:
Bolton station is like a seventies eastern bloc type of station. Glum, dilapidated, freezing old fashioned and tatty. There is not even enough room to stand in the waiting room at peak times. It is one of the largest towns in Europe and needs dragging into the 20th let alone the 21st century. Roll on the new interchange although goodness only knows how long it will all take to link it to the bus stn. I have had to conquer my panic attacks due to claustrophobia on the 08.55 to Manchester.
The new bus station will do NOTHING for the current train station or ticket office as they are not being improved. Basically the bus station is on the wrong side of the tracks and is only connecting with the ticket office by a pedestrian footbridge. Nothing else is changing - ticket office will be the same, platforms will be the same, the footstep bridge to the platforms will be the same, even the platform buildings are not changing - only other addition will be Platform 5 in 2.5 years. In fact the bus station building will be nowhere near the train station ticket office as the footbridge will be going over the where the buses will be driving and then the railway tracks before reaching the ticket office!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Lynn57[/bold] wrote: Bolton station is like a seventies eastern bloc type of station. Glum, dilapidated, freezing old fashioned and tatty. There is not even enough room to stand in the waiting room at peak times. It is one of the largest towns in Europe and needs dragging into the 20th let alone the 21st century. Roll on the new interchange although goodness only knows how long it will all take to link it to the bus stn. I have had to conquer my panic attacks due to claustrophobia on the 08.55 to Manchester.[/p][/quote]The new bus station will do NOTHING for the current train station or ticket office as they are not being improved. Basically the bus station is on the wrong side of the tracks and is only connecting with the ticket office by a pedestrian footbridge. Nothing else is changing - ticket office will be the same, platforms will be the same, the footstep bridge to the platforms will be the same, even the platform buildings are not changing - only other addition will be Platform 5 in 2.5 years. In fact the bus station building will be nowhere near the train station ticket office as the footbridge will be going over the where the buses will be driving and then the railway tracks before reaching the ticket office!!!!!! BWFC71

8:48pm Mon 24 Feb 14

nickyboy70 says...

my wife is in wheelchair and we moved from Bolton to blackpool our son still lives in Bolton and I wont take my wife on the trains because of the overcrowding its bad enough on trains without being in a wheelchair. donna and nick from blackpool
my wife is in wheelchair and we moved from Bolton to blackpool our son still lives in Bolton and I wont take my wife on the trains because of the overcrowding its bad enough on trains without being in a wheelchair. donna and nick from blackpool nickyboy70

9:46pm Mon 24 Feb 14

BWFC71 says...

nickyboy70 wrote:
my wife is in wheelchair and we moved from Bolton to blackpool our son still lives in Bolton and I wont take my wife on the trains because of the overcrowding its bad enough on trains without being in a wheelchair. donna and nick from blackpool
There was a woman on Platform 3 today in an electric chair and she couldn't get on the 0735 because it was so full and had to wait for the next train to go along the Piccadilly line (being 0755) - don't know if she caught it as I caught the 0743 to Victoria which was crammed full!
[quote][p][bold]nickyboy70[/bold] wrote: my wife is in wheelchair and we moved from Bolton to blackpool our son still lives in Bolton and I wont take my wife on the trains because of the overcrowding its bad enough on trains without being in a wheelchair. donna and nick from blackpool[/p][/quote]There was a woman on Platform 3 today in an electric chair and she couldn't get on the 0735 because it was so full and had to wait for the next train to go along the Piccadilly line (being 0755) - don't know if she caught it as I caught the 0743 to Victoria which was crammed full! BWFC71

11:01pm Mon 24 Feb 14

FreedomOfSpeech1945 says...

Bolton News got it wrong in the paper today with regards to this article. A picture in the paper of the ramp leading through the ticket checkers to the concourse was described as, " an overcrowded platform" :) Thanks for the laugh today!
Bolton News got it wrong in the paper today with regards to this article. A picture in the paper of the ramp leading through the ticket checkers to the concourse was described as, " an overcrowded platform" :) Thanks for the laugh today! FreedomOfSpeech1945

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