'Our petition was not misleading', say furious Westhoughton care home campaigners

The Bolton News: Winifred Kettle Winifred Kettle

CAMPAIGNERS trying to save threatened services at a Westhoughton care home have reacted furiously to a councillor’s claims their petition was “misleading”.

The petition — which attracted more than 1,000 signatures before being submitted to Bolton Council last Wednesday — urged the local authority to scrap plans to end intermediate and respite care at Winifred Kettle Community Care Centre.

The move is part of a major shake-up of health provision in Bolton, which will also see Firwood House in Crompton Way close, with the overall aim being to see more people cared for in their own homes.

Cllr Christopher Peacock, for Westhoughton North and Chew Moor, and cabinet member for adults and social care, welcomed the petition but criticised it for failing to “fully explain the situation”.

The Labour Party in Westhoughton has since produced a leaflet, distributed to all homes in the town, stressing that Winifred Kettle will not be closing.

Campaigner Gwendoline Parr said she felt insulted by Cllr Peacock’s comments, as she and Cllr Lynda Winrow-Baker had spent hours in the cold and rain speaking to people.

An online petition, which has attracted 1,350 signatures, titled “Help Save Winifred Kettle Care Home in Westhoughton”, makes clear the changes only affect intermediate and respite care.

Cllr Lynda Winrow-Baker, for Daisy Hill, said: “I can assure you I did not mislead people in any way.”

The Westhoughton Labour leaflet also makes reference to people who would otherwise have applied for a respite bed at Winifred Kettle.

Mrs Parr said: “The petition did not suggest that the home would be closing.

“We are also not campaigning so Westhoughton people can benefit, but so anyone can benefit, as I know people in Deane, for instance, who have benefited from being there.

“Where is the evidence that people want to be treated at home rather than Winny Kettle?”

Cllr Peacock added: “This has been framed as services leaving the town, when only 10 per cent of the people in Winifred Kettle’s beds last year were from Westhoughton.

“Each patient wanting a bed in respite care will be consulted and offered a suitable alternative locally.

“In and around Westhoughton means exactly that, we have one care home currently offering that care with another set to open at the old Red Lion soon.”

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11:11am Sat 8 Mar 14

William2701 says...

Well said Councillor Peacock. I have heard and seen claims that the facility is closing when it isn't.
Well said Councillor Peacock. I have heard and seen claims that the facility is closing when it isn't. William2701
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12:05pm Sat 8 Mar 14

oftbewildered2 says...

the first I realised that it was not closing was when I got the Labour leaflet through the door explaining what was happening. Until then I was under the impression that it was closing; whether this was from the petition or from any BN reporting on it I do not know.
the first I realised that it was not closing was when I got the Labour leaflet through the door explaining what was happening. Until then I was under the impression that it was closing; whether this was from the petition or from any BN reporting on it I do not know. oftbewildered2
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1:15pm Sat 8 Mar 14

the need for austerity is a myth says...

oftbewildered2 wrote:
the first I realised that it was not closing was when I got the Labour leaflet through the door explaining what was happening. Until then I was under the impression that it was closing; whether this was from the petition or from any BN reporting on it I do not know.
Here's a suggestion. Read stuff. If you got this impression from the petition then you did not read it properly. Likewise, if you got that impression from what was reported reported in the BN you did not read it properly.

You've caused me to feel dirty. My skin crawls at the thought I have just defended the BN. But it had to be done. They have supported Cllr Peacock's lies with true determination.
[quote][p][bold]oftbewildered2[/bold] wrote: the first I realised that it was not closing was when I got the Labour leaflet through the door explaining what was happening. Until then I was under the impression that it was closing; whether this was from the petition or from any BN reporting on it I do not know.[/p][/quote]Here's a suggestion. Read stuff. If you got this impression from the petition then you did not read it properly. Likewise, if you got that impression from what was reported reported in the BN you did not read it properly. You've caused me to feel dirty. My skin crawls at the thought I have just defended the BN. But it had to be done. They have supported Cllr Peacock's lies with true determination. the need for austerity is a myth
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7:20pm Sat 8 Mar 14

Brumas says...

The true facts of this matter are as follows: - The Community Integrated Care and Respite Beds at Winifred Kettle Care Centre, are to close leaving Bolton with fewer such beds, that is the crux of the problem. Bolton Council officers say that the staff from Winifred Kettle could go out into the community and help more people in their own homes, thus providing a better service to the service users. But in reality that is not so, the real problem stems from the need to free up Hospital beds and the methods to do so, Bolton Council officers state that most elderly hospital patients say they would prefer to be in their own homes on discharge from hospital, this point of view is taken literally in most cases, when in fact it is not practical. All too often elderly patients are discharged to their own homes, when it is blatantly obvious that they are not capable of looking after their selves at home, even with help. So what happens is within a few days they are re-admitted to hospital, (As stated in this Newspaper last week) because they had been discharged inappropriately in the haste to free up Hospital beds. Community Integrated Care is meant to be a follow on service to ensure people are temporally supported 24/7 and helped to recover in order to go home when they deemed able to support their selves.
But happens is this, discharged home, can’t manage, back to hospital, next time discharged into private nursing homes because it is now said they can’t manage at home on their own.
Which has been stated by the government, this week in the press, that is why the beds at Winifred Kettle should be saved.
The true facts of this matter are as follows: - The Community Integrated Care and Respite Beds at Winifred Kettle Care Centre, are to close leaving Bolton with fewer such beds, that is the crux of the problem. Bolton Council officers say that the staff from Winifred Kettle could go out into the community and help more people in their own homes, thus providing a better service to the service users. But in reality that is not so, the real problem stems from the need to free up Hospital beds and the methods to do so, Bolton Council officers state that most elderly hospital patients say they would prefer to be in their own homes on discharge from hospital, this point of view is taken literally in most cases, when in fact it is not practical. All too often elderly patients are discharged to their own homes, when it is blatantly obvious that they are not capable of looking after their selves at home, even with help. So what happens is within a few days they are re-admitted to hospital, (As stated in this Newspaper last week) because they had been discharged inappropriately in the haste to free up Hospital beds. Community Integrated Care is meant to be a follow on service to ensure people are temporally supported 24/7 and helped to recover in order to go home when they deemed able to support their selves. But happens is this, discharged home, can’t manage, back to hospital, next time discharged into private nursing homes because it is now said they can’t manage at home on their own. Which has been stated by the government, this week in the press, that is why the beds at Winifred Kettle should be saved. Brumas
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2:22pm Mon 10 Mar 14

Puffin-Billy says...

This is just one of the thousands of such closures - shake ups, reforms,

call them what you will - that are taking place around the country.

The same is happening to Mental health care in Bolton and around the

country.

Until you get it into your heads that people such as Bolton CCG and Cllr

Andy Morgan, and the ConDem government which he supports, are

intent on destroying the NHS, the welfare state and all it entails, then we

will get lies, lies and more lies trotted out in the pages of the Bolton

News on behalf of Jeremy Hunt's friends in big business. He described

the NHS as a 65 year old mistake. He means it, and so do Bolton CCG,

and Cllr Andy Morgan - If you don't believe me - watch this space.
This is just one of the thousands of such closures - shake ups, reforms, call them what you will - that are taking place around the country. The same is happening to Mental health care in Bolton and around the country. Until you get it into your heads that people such as Bolton CCG and Cllr Andy Morgan, and the ConDem government which he supports, are intent on destroying the NHS, the welfare state and all it entails, then we will get lies, lies and more lies trotted out in the pages of the Bolton News on behalf of Jeremy Hunt's friends in big business. He described the NHS as a 65 year old mistake. He means it, and so do Bolton CCG, and Cllr Andy Morgan - If you don't believe me - watch this space. Puffin-Billy
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