Bolton 'may get more train carriages to ease overcrowding'

Commuters trying to get on a packed train at Bolton station

Commuters trying to get on a packed train at Bolton station

First published in News The Bolton News: Photograph of the Author by , politics reporter

TRANSPORT secretary Stephen Hammond has hinted a deal is on the cards to draft in more carriages to ease Bolton’s "cattle-truck" trains.

During a special debate on the rolling stock provision in the north of England, Mr Hammond admitted there is a “short-term mismatch” in the number of carriages needed, as operators prepare for electrification of the railway lines.

It follows a meeting he held with Bolton’s three MPs last week as part of The Bolton News’ Let’s Get Back On Track campaign, where they discussed possible ways to address to the town’s crowded trains.

Mr Hammond said he understood the frustrations of commuters but that improvements were on the way as part of the government’s £1 billion investment of rail in the north.

He added: “I met honourable members from Bolton last week and I understand the difficulties being faced by passengers on that route.

“I am confident that an agreement will shortly be released whereby electric rolling stock will operate some services between Manchester and Liverpool from December.

“This will allow diesel trains to be released to address the capacity issues for Bolton and the Todmorden curve.”

The Bolton News presented a petition to Number 10 Downing Street last week with almost 1,500 signatures calling on the government to take action on Bolton’s overcrowded carriages.

Yasmin Qureshi, MP for Bolton South East, spoke during the debate urging the minister to take action.

She told MPs how she had been contacted by several constituents who had lost their jobs because they could not get on the trains in time for work, due to overcrowding.

Ms Qureshi told the meeting: “Trains from Bolton to Manchester are incredibly overcrowded — people have to give up on getting on one or two trains before they can get on one.

“We need more trains. The trains running from Bolton to Manchester are dangerous.”

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9:57am Thu 13 Mar 14

Nat's lad says...

This suggests more rolling stock MAY be available from December. December!!? December??!
This suggests more rolling stock MAY be available from December. December!!? December??! Nat's lad
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1:21pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Darren1951 says...

Only one lot to blame for this total abortion of a national railway system - the greedy b******s who privatized it all in the first place.
Only one lot to blame for this total abortion of a national railway system - the greedy b******s who privatized it all in the first place. Darren1951
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5:25pm Thu 13 Mar 14

FreedomOfSpeech1945 says...

Bring back BR - or at least coaching stock!!!!!
Bring back BR - or at least coaching stock!!!!! FreedomOfSpeech1945
  • Score: -1

5:27pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Lynn57 says...

Darren1951 wrote:
Only one lot to blame for this total abortion of a national railway system - the greedy b******s who privatized it all in the first place.
You are so right, privatisation has wrecked the railways. The 07.43 to Manchester Victoria was just cancelled on Tuesday morning leaving us
Commuters stranded because the next two trains were so jammed that people were seven deep trying to board. I received a warning at work too. It is so worth 1200 quid per year--NOT. Thanks for the people who travelled to number ten last week on our behalf. I signed the petition and wrote to my MP although I have been told that we are to lose more stock to accommodate a Southern railway company.
[quote][p][bold]Darren1951[/bold] wrote: Only one lot to blame for this total abortion of a national railway system - the greedy b******s who privatized it all in the first place.[/p][/quote]You are so right, privatisation has wrecked the railways. The 07.43 to Manchester Victoria was just cancelled on Tuesday morning leaving us Commuters stranded because the next two trains were so jammed that people were seven deep trying to board. I received a warning at work too. It is so worth 1200 quid per year--NOT. Thanks for the people who travelled to number ten last week on our behalf. I signed the petition and wrote to my MP although I have been told that we are to lose more stock to accommodate a Southern railway company. Lynn57
  • Score: 12

6:15pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Darren1951 says...

Lynn57 wrote:
Darren1951 wrote:
Only one lot to blame for this total abortion of a national railway system - the greedy b******s who privatized it all in the first place.
You are so right, privatisation has wrecked the railways. The 07.43 to Manchester Victoria was just cancelled on Tuesday morning leaving us
Commuters stranded because the next two trains were so jammed that people were seven deep trying to board. I received a warning at work too. It is so worth 1200 quid per year--NOT. Thanks for the people who travelled to number ten last week on our behalf. I signed the petition and wrote to my MP although I have been told that we are to lose more stock to accommodate a Southern railway company.
And there's talk, on and off, about re-doubling the track between Bolton and Blackburn, to facilitate a half-hourly service. Oh really, so where will they get the extra rolling stock for that? I don't know what it would cost, possibly in the region of £20M peanuts compared to the cost of the Hindhead Tunnel, on the A3 in Surrey, which I'm sure I've mentioned before. But, of course, it was all a Tory idea, so shareholders are more important, aren't they?
[quote][p][bold]Lynn57[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Darren1951[/bold] wrote: Only one lot to blame for this total abortion of a national railway system - the greedy b******s who privatized it all in the first place.[/p][/quote]You are so right, privatisation has wrecked the railways. The 07.43 to Manchester Victoria was just cancelled on Tuesday morning leaving us Commuters stranded because the next two trains were so jammed that people were seven deep trying to board. I received a warning at work too. It is so worth 1200 quid per year--NOT. Thanks for the people who travelled to number ten last week on our behalf. I signed the petition and wrote to my MP although I have been told that we are to lose more stock to accommodate a Southern railway company.[/p][/quote]And there's talk, on and off, about re-doubling the track between Bolton and Blackburn, to facilitate a half-hourly service. Oh really, so where will they get the extra rolling stock for that? I don't know what it would cost, possibly in the region of £20M peanuts compared to the cost of the Hindhead Tunnel, on the A3 in Surrey, which I'm sure I've mentioned before. But, of course, it was all a Tory idea, so shareholders are more important, aren't they? Darren1951
  • Score: -2

6:30pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Darren1951 says...

Lynne57 - how long do you reckon before we're blessed with a visitation from you know who?
Lynne57 - how long do you reckon before we're blessed with a visitation from you know who? Darren1951
  • Score: -4

6:32pm Thu 13 Mar 14

thealexweb says...

This may take us back to where we were before December 2013. I don't like the way this story has been portrayed, that everything was fine before the withdrawal of the Scottish services. Overcrowding was rampant before then and is only getting worse, the latest figures show an 8% increase year on year
This may take us back to where we were before December 2013. I don't like the way this story has been portrayed, that everything was fine before the withdrawal of the Scottish services. Overcrowding was rampant before then and is only getting worse, the latest figures show an 8% increase year on year thealexweb
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6:40pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Darren1951 says...

thealexweb wrote:
This may take us back to where we were before December 2013. I don't like the way this story has been portrayed, that everything was fine before the withdrawal of the Scottish services. Overcrowding was rampant before then and is only getting worse, the latest figures show an 8% increase year on year
Quite right, and there HAS been an unexpectedly large rise in passenger numbers, which has exacerbated the problems caused by the way that the railway system was fragmented almost piecemeal.
[quote][p][bold]thealexweb[/bold] wrote: This may take us back to where we were before December 2013. I don't like the way this story has been portrayed, that everything was fine before the withdrawal of the Scottish services. Overcrowding was rampant before then and is only getting worse, the latest figures show an 8% increase year on year[/p][/quote]Quite right, and there HAS been an unexpectedly large rise in passenger numbers, which has exacerbated the problems caused by the way that the railway system was fragmented almost piecemeal. Darren1951
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9:03pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Southfield 62 says...

When Northern won the rail franchise on 2004, its was expected there would be no significant rise in passenger numbers. The average increase in passenger numbers they claim is about 40%. However if you look at the local picture ie Bolton and its 10 other stations, the increase is 100%. Wouldnt mind betting that Bolton has no more carriages now than in 2004. Why. Because all the money invested in the railways over the last decade has been spent in London and the south. I dont know what our MPs said to the transport minister but it wasnt enough. The transport minister seems to think a few extra carriages will solve the problems. No it wont. Only significant investment in new rolling stock will solve these problems. There are currently 2500 new carriages on order and only 40 of these will see service in the nort west and none in Bolton until the electrics go up. This gross imbalance of allocation needs sorting out. But i dont hold much hope. After all, we are north of Watford.
When Northern won the rail franchise on 2004, its was expected there would be no significant rise in passenger numbers. The average increase in passenger numbers they claim is about 40%. However if you look at the local picture ie Bolton and its 10 other stations, the increase is 100%. Wouldnt mind betting that Bolton has no more carriages now than in 2004. Why. Because all the money invested in the railways over the last decade has been spent in London and the south. I dont know what our MPs said to the transport minister but it wasnt enough. The transport minister seems to think a few extra carriages will solve the problems. No it wont. Only significant investment in new rolling stock will solve these problems. There are currently 2500 new carriages on order and only 40 of these will see service in the nort west and none in Bolton until the electrics go up. This gross imbalance of allocation needs sorting out. But i dont hold much hope. After all, we are north of Watford. Southfield 62
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10:36pm Thu 13 Mar 14

BWFC71 says...

Southfield 62 wrote:
When Northern won the rail franchise on 2004, its was expected there would be no significant rise in passenger numbers. The average increase in passenger numbers they claim is about 40%. However if you look at the local picture ie Bolton and its 10 other stations, the increase is 100%. Wouldnt mind betting that Bolton has no more carriages now than in 2004. Why. Because all the money invested in the railways over the last decade has been spent in London and the south. I dont know what our MPs said to the transport minister but it wasnt enough. The transport minister seems to think a few extra carriages will solve the problems. No it wont. Only significant investment in new rolling stock will solve these problems. There are currently 2500 new carriages on order and only 40 of these will see service in the nort west and none in Bolton until the electrics go up. This gross imbalance of allocation needs sorting out. But i dont hold much hope. After all, we are north of Watford.
In fact I actually worked it out a few weeks ago and made a comment about this.

The average rise on ALL Bolton station is 124.6% since 2004 - although some station such as Bolton Station (formerly known as Bolton Trinity Street) it has only gone up by 87%, but Horwich Parkway has seen an increase of well over 170%

When the franchise was created the rolling stock lease company stated that the outgoing franchises could use the "newer" rolling stock in their other franchises - in this case First North western took the 4 and 5 coach "newer" trains to be used on the First Great Western Franchise and replaced them with the class142's which Northern Rail was basically inherited with!

As it is, during this course of the franchise we have gone from, at peak times, 10 trains an hour to 7 with less coaches and actually smaller coaches as Class 142's can hold at most 100 per coach where the class 15X can hold 130 per coach but in reality, as we all know, they tend to hold at least another 50% on top of what they do before crushing begins - but the ORR (Office of the Rail Regulator) admits there is no limit on passenger numbers as the trains are built to be safe!!!!

You are almost right with the new coaches. Out of 2500 40 are coming to North of Watford with 30 going to Birmingham region and 10 for the rest of the North (on use for First Transpennine only routes between Manchester Airport and Glasgow/Edinburgh via Wigan)!!!! But Bolton will not see these new units!!!

As shown on BBC's NWT only 2 weeks ago the amount of money spent on public transport in London is £5000/person whereas it is only £840/person in the North West. It seems they are frightened of telling Boris Johnson to bugger off.

On another point everyone seems to blame Margaret Thatchers government for the privatisation of the railways when in fact it was actually John Majors government. Even Maggie T realised that the railway industry should NEVER be privatised like it has been done!!!!

The problem we have now is that each Government Body and Traain Operating company is blaming each other and trying to confuse people as to what and who does what - because, to be fair, even they don't really know as seen in the North West Coast fiasco with Virgin Trains!!!

On one last point Northern Rail has still to sign the extension to April 2016 and they only have 5 weeks left and the same goes for First TPE who only have about 10 weeks left - if they don't sign then they lose the rights to the franchise and they fall into the hands of the ORR like East Coast Trains is and then there is much higher possibility of losing even more units to the South who recently have had extensions or new contracts that last over 20 years compared to the 10 year contracts up here in the north!!!
[quote][p][bold]Southfield 62[/bold] wrote: When Northern won the rail franchise on 2004, its was expected there would be no significant rise in passenger numbers. The average increase in passenger numbers they claim is about 40%. However if you look at the local picture ie Bolton and its 10 other stations, the increase is 100%. Wouldnt mind betting that Bolton has no more carriages now than in 2004. Why. Because all the money invested in the railways over the last decade has been spent in London and the south. I dont know what our MPs said to the transport minister but it wasnt enough. The transport minister seems to think a few extra carriages will solve the problems. No it wont. Only significant investment in new rolling stock will solve these problems. There are currently 2500 new carriages on order and only 40 of these will see service in the nort west and none in Bolton until the electrics go up. This gross imbalance of allocation needs sorting out. But i dont hold much hope. After all, we are north of Watford.[/p][/quote]In fact I actually worked it out a few weeks ago and made a comment about this. The average rise on ALL Bolton station is 124.6% since 2004 - although some station such as Bolton Station (formerly known as Bolton Trinity Street) it has only gone up by 87%, but Horwich Parkway has seen an increase of well over 170% When the franchise was created the rolling stock lease company stated that the outgoing franchises could use the "newer" rolling stock in their other franchises - in this case First North western took the 4 and 5 coach "newer" trains to be used on the First Great Western Franchise and replaced them with the class142's which Northern Rail was basically inherited with! As it is, during this course of the franchise we have gone from, at peak times, 10 trains an hour to 7 with less coaches and actually smaller coaches as Class 142's can hold at most 100 per coach where the class 15X can hold 130 per coach but in reality, as we all know, they tend to hold at least another 50% on top of what they do before crushing begins - but the ORR (Office of the Rail Regulator) admits there is no limit on passenger numbers as the trains are built to be safe!!!! You are almost right with the new coaches. Out of 2500 40 are coming to North of Watford with 30 going to Birmingham region and 10 for the rest of the North (on use for First Transpennine only routes between Manchester Airport and Glasgow/Edinburgh via Wigan)!!!! But Bolton will not see these new units!!! As shown on BBC's NWT only 2 weeks ago the amount of money spent on public transport in London is £5000/person whereas it is only £840/person in the North West. It seems they are frightened of telling Boris Johnson to bugger off. On another point everyone seems to blame Margaret Thatchers government for the privatisation of the railways when in fact it was actually John Majors government. Even Maggie T realised that the railway industry should NEVER be privatised like it has been done!!!! The problem we have now is that each Government Body and Traain Operating company is blaming each other and trying to confuse people as to what and who does what - because, to be fair, even they don't really know as seen in the North West Coast fiasco with Virgin Trains!!! On one last point Northern Rail has still to sign the extension to April 2016 and they only have 5 weeks left and the same goes for First TPE who only have about 10 weeks left - if they don't sign then they lose the rights to the franchise and they fall into the hands of the ORR like East Coast Trains is and then there is much higher possibility of losing even more units to the South who recently have had extensions or new contracts that last over 20 years compared to the 10 year contracts up here in the north!!! BWFC71
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10:47pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Darren1951 says...

"10 trains an hour to 7 with less coaches" - FEWER coaches. TCH, TCH!
"10 trains an hour to 7 with less coaches" - FEWER coaches. TCH, TCH! Darren1951
  • Score: 44

10:47pm Thu 13 Mar 14

BWFC71 says...

Darren1951 wrote:
Lynn57 wrote:
Darren1951 wrote:
Only one lot to blame for this total abortion of a national railway system - the greedy b******s who privatized it all in the first place.
You are so right, privatisation has wrecked the railways. The 07.43 to Manchester Victoria was just cancelled on Tuesday morning leaving us
Commuters stranded because the next two trains were so jammed that people were seven deep trying to board. I received a warning at work too. It is so worth 1200 quid per year--NOT. Thanks for the people who travelled to number ten last week on our behalf. I signed the petition and wrote to my MP although I have been told that we are to lose more stock to accommodate a Southern railway company.
And there's talk, on and off, about re-doubling the track between Bolton and Blackburn, to facilitate a half-hourly service. Oh really, so where will they get the extra rolling stock for that? I don't know what it would cost, possibly in the region of £20M peanuts compared to the cost of the Hindhead Tunnel, on the A3 in Surrey, which I'm sure I've mentioned before. But, of course, it was all a Tory idea, so shareholders are more important, aren't they?
They already have the rolling stock as during peak times it is already a "half-hourly" service to Blackburn with extension to Clitheroe hourly. It just that during the daytime one service operates as an extra service to Wigan from Bolton.

The Blackburn line is not being doubled up but they are getting new signals and it is not part of the electrification plans so will still require the diesel units. So will the Southport services as, although the line to Wigan is now also going to get electrified a year after the main line through Bolton, the line between Wigan and Southport is NOT being electrified so, therefore, still will require diesel units.

Also lets not forget that Northern Rail has 79 sets of the Class 142's which are not DDA compliant and have to be replaced within 4 years, so this shortage of trains will not be disappearing anytime soon. as diesel units are no longer being bought!
[quote][p][bold]Darren1951[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lynn57[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Darren1951[/bold] wrote: Only one lot to blame for this total abortion of a national railway system - the greedy b******s who privatized it all in the first place.[/p][/quote]You are so right, privatisation has wrecked the railways. The 07.43 to Manchester Victoria was just cancelled on Tuesday morning leaving us Commuters stranded because the next two trains were so jammed that people were seven deep trying to board. I received a warning at work too. It is so worth 1200 quid per year--NOT. Thanks for the people who travelled to number ten last week on our behalf. I signed the petition and wrote to my MP although I have been told that we are to lose more stock to accommodate a Southern railway company.[/p][/quote]And there's talk, on and off, about re-doubling the track between Bolton and Blackburn, to facilitate a half-hourly service. Oh really, so where will they get the extra rolling stock for that? I don't know what it would cost, possibly in the region of £20M peanuts compared to the cost of the Hindhead Tunnel, on the A3 in Surrey, which I'm sure I've mentioned before. But, of course, it was all a Tory idea, so shareholders are more important, aren't they?[/p][/quote]They already have the rolling stock as during peak times it is already a "half-hourly" service to Blackburn with extension to Clitheroe hourly. It just that during the daytime one service operates as an extra service to Wigan from Bolton. The Blackburn line is not being doubled up but they are getting new signals and it is not part of the electrification plans so will still require the diesel units. So will the Southport services as, although the line to Wigan is now also going to get electrified a year after the main line through Bolton, the line between Wigan and Southport is NOT being electrified so, therefore, still will require diesel units. Also lets not forget that Northern Rail has 79 sets of the Class 142's which are not DDA compliant and have to be replaced within 4 years, so this shortage of trains will not be disappearing anytime soon. as diesel units are no longer being bought! BWFC71
  • Score: -24

10:50pm Thu 13 Mar 14

BWFC71 says...

Darren1951 wrote:
"10 trains an hour to 7 with less coaches" - FEWER coaches. TCH, TCH!
You had a go at me on another thread and now you are starting on this one - YOU ARE PATHETIC!!! If you disagree with any of my points on this subject then prove me wrong but if its to do with grammar than guess what - I aint bothered, as this is a forum and NOT an English class!!!
[quote][p][bold]Darren1951[/bold] wrote: "10 trains an hour to 7 with less coaches" - FEWER coaches. TCH, TCH![/p][/quote]You had a go at me on another thread and now you are starting on this one - YOU ARE PATHETIC!!! If you disagree with any of my points on this subject then prove me wrong but if its to do with grammar than guess what - I aint bothered, as this is a forum and NOT an English class!!! BWFC71
  • Score: -51

10:53pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Darren1951 says...

"I aint bothered" - you should change your name to Lauren.
"I aint bothered" - you should change your name to Lauren. Darren1951
  • Score: -6

10:56pm Thu 13 Mar 14

BWFC71 says...

FreedomOfSpeech1945 wrote:
Bring back BR - or at least coaching stock!!!!!
To be fair I can't wait for electrification as from when we get it and get the 30+ year old train from Thameslink I will then campaign to get new trains based on the new train that the Dutch have introduced:-

http://en.wikipedia.
org/wiki/NS_SLT

Fantastic new 3, 6 and 8 coach trains which are fast and much greener than the so-called new trains that the South east will be getting!!!! I have frequently travelled on these SLT's and they are superb! We should be investing in these which are cheaper and safer than the trains we they are currently investing in and they are made by the same company Bombardier/Siemens!
[quote][p][bold]FreedomOfSpeech1945[/bold] wrote: Bring back BR - or at least coaching stock!!!!![/p][/quote]To be fair I can't wait for electrification as from when we get it and get the 30+ year old train from Thameslink I will then campaign to get new trains based on the new train that the Dutch have introduced:- http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/NS_SLT Fantastic new 3, 6 and 8 coach trains which are fast and much greener than the so-called new trains that the South east will be getting!!!! I have frequently travelled on these SLT's and they are superb! We should be investing in these which are cheaper and safer than the trains we they are currently investing in and they are made by the same company Bombardier/Siemens! BWFC71
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10:56pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Darren1951 says...

Lynn57 - now, what was that I was saying earlier?
Lynn57 - now, what was that I was saying earlier? Darren1951
  • Score: -4

11:03pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Darren1951 says...

Lots of "thumbs downs" appearing. Now, I wonder who that could be - any ideas, anyone?
Lots of "thumbs downs" appearing. Now, I wonder who that could be - any ideas, anyone? Darren1951
  • Score: -4

11:05pm Thu 13 Mar 14

BWFC71 says...

Darren1951 wrote:
"I aint bothered" - you should change your name to Lauren.
You ought to know you popular culture as the Lauren phrase is "Bovered."

Have you anything to add to what I have said with regards to the trains, if not then shut up and stop wasting the newspapers bandwidth!

Do you disagree with anything I have said with regards to the trains? If not then why are you carrying on like a child whose lost an ice-cream?

If you continue to try to divert this thread away from the trains then there is no other course of action but to report every single one of your posts that do try to divert.

Again do you agree or disagree with what I have said with regards to the trains in my previous posts? If so , why?
[quote][p][bold]Darren1951[/bold] wrote: "I aint bothered" - you should change your name to Lauren.[/p][/quote]You ought to know you popular culture as the Lauren phrase is "Bovered." Have you anything to add to what I have said with regards to the trains, if not then shut up and stop wasting the newspapers bandwidth! Do you disagree with anything I have said with regards to the trains? If not then why are you carrying on like a child whose lost an ice-cream? If you continue to try to divert this thread away from the trains then there is no other course of action but to report every single one of your posts that do try to divert. Again do you agree or disagree with what I have said with regards to the trains in my previous posts? If so , why? BWFC71
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11:09pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Darren1951 says...

BWFC71 wrote:
Darren1951 wrote:
"I aint bothered" - you should change your name to Lauren.
You ought to know you popular culture as the Lauren phrase is "Bovered."

Have you anything to add to what I have said with regards to the trains, if not then shut up and stop wasting the newspapers bandwidth!

Do you disagree with anything I have said with regards to the trains? If not then why are you carrying on like a child whose lost an ice-cream?

If you continue to try to divert this thread away from the trains then there is no other course of action but to report every single one of your posts that do try to divert.

Again do you agree or disagree with what I have said with regards to the trains in my previous posts? If so , why?
"Have you anything to add to what I have said with regards to the trains, if not then shut up and stop wasting the newspapers bandwidth!"

Do you mean in the manner that you have done elsewhere, AD NAUSEAM?
[quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Darren1951[/bold] wrote: "I aint bothered" - you should change your name to Lauren.[/p][/quote]You ought to know you popular culture as the Lauren phrase is "Bovered." Have you anything to add to what I have said with regards to the trains, if not then shut up and stop wasting the newspapers bandwidth! Do you disagree with anything I have said with regards to the trains? If not then why are you carrying on like a child whose lost an ice-cream? If you continue to try to divert this thread away from the trains then there is no other course of action but to report every single one of your posts that do try to divert. Again do you agree or disagree with what I have said with regards to the trains in my previous posts? If so , why?[/p][/quote]"Have you anything to add to what I have said with regards to the trains, if not then shut up and stop wasting the newspapers bandwidth!" Do you mean in the manner that you have done elsewhere, AD NAUSEAM? Darren1951
  • Score: 65

11:13pm Thu 13 Mar 14

BWFC71 says...

Darren:

As you cannot take a single hint I am telling you that I HAVE reported every single post that DOES NOT refer to the news story on this thread. YOU have spoiled this thread through YOUR childish behaviour! I hope you are happy!!!

Again do you agree or disagree with what I have said with regards to the trains in my previous posts? If so , why?
Darren: As you cannot take a single hint I am telling you that I HAVE reported every single post that DOES NOT refer to the news story on this thread. YOU have spoiled this thread through YOUR childish behaviour! I hope you are happy!!! Again do you agree or disagree with what I have said with regards to the trains in my previous posts? If so , why? BWFC71
  • Score: -61

11:17pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Darren1951 says...

Sounds like ickle boy wants his dummy.
Sounds like ickle boy wants his dummy. Darren1951
  • Score: 13

11:24pm Thu 13 Mar 14

BWFC71 says...

Darren

Without diverting off course of the thread I repeat, do you agree or disagree with what I have said with regards to the trains in my previous posts? If so , why?

Or are you so childish that because one thread was spoiled by my help you have to lower your own standards to make sure this thread gets spoiled as retribution?
Darren Without diverting off course of the thread I repeat, do you agree or disagree with what I have said with regards to the trains in my previous posts? If so , why? Or are you so childish that because one thread was spoiled by my help you have to lower your own standards to make sure this thread gets spoiled as retribution? BWFC71
  • Score: -39

11:27pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Darren1951 says...

"Or are you so childish that because one thread was spoiled by my help you have to lower your own standards to make sure this thread gets spoiled as retribution?"

WIBBLE!
"Or are you so childish that because one thread was spoiled by my help you have to lower your own standards to make sure this thread gets spoiled as retribution?" WIBBLE! Darren1951
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11:31pm Thu 13 Mar 14

BWFC71 says...

Darren1951 wrote:
"Or are you so childish that because one thread was spoiled by my help you have to lower your own standards to make sure this thread gets spoiled as retribution?"

WIBBLE!
Darren

Without diverting off course of the thread I repeat, do you agree or disagree with what I have said with regards to the trains in my previous posts? If so , why?
[quote][p][bold]Darren1951[/bold] wrote: "Or are you so childish that because one thread was spoiled by my help you have to lower your own standards to make sure this thread gets spoiled as retribution?" WIBBLE![/p][/quote]Darren Without diverting off course of the thread I repeat, do you agree or disagree with what I have said with regards to the trains in my previous posts? If so , why? BWFC71
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11:34pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Darren1951 says...

BWFC71 - could you repeat the question, please.
BWFC71 - could you repeat the question, please. Darren1951
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11:38pm Thu 13 Mar 14

bwfcsmum says...

BWFC71 wrote:
Darren1951 wrote:
"I aint bothered" - you should change your name to Lauren.
You ought to know you popular culture as the Lauren phrase is "Bovered."

Have you anything to add to what I have said with regards to the trains, if not then shut up and stop wasting the newspapers bandwidth!

Do you disagree with anything I have said with regards to the trains? If not then why are you carrying on like a child whose lost an ice-cream?

If you continue to try to divert this thread away from the trains then there is no other course of action but to report every single one of your posts that do try to divert.

Again do you agree or disagree with what I have said with regards to the trains in my previous posts? If so , why?
oh dear

once again the mentally challanged moron is imploding again

sad little man........... your life must be so pathetic for you to constantly moan on here all the time

do you have alcohol problems ???? or is it just mental health issues
[quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Darren1951[/bold] wrote: "I aint bothered" - you should change your name to Lauren.[/p][/quote]You ought to know you popular culture as the Lauren phrase is "Bovered." Have you anything to add to what I have said with regards to the trains, if not then shut up and stop wasting the newspapers bandwidth! Do you disagree with anything I have said with regards to the trains? If not then why are you carrying on like a child whose lost an ice-cream? If you continue to try to divert this thread away from the trains then there is no other course of action but to report every single one of your posts that do try to divert. Again do you agree or disagree with what I have said with regards to the trains in my previous posts? If so , why?[/p][/quote]oh dear once again the mentally challanged moron is imploding again sad little man........... your life must be so pathetic for you to constantly moan on here all the time do you have alcohol problems ???? or is it just mental health issues bwfcsmum
  • Score: 8

11:38pm Thu 13 Mar 14

BWFC71 says...

Darren, as you seem intent on spoiling this thread I am going to repeat all the points I have made, especially for the casual reader who saw fit to by-pass your drivel and antagonism, and would like your thoughts on whether you agree or disagree and why? If you cannot see fit to respond on an adult level then carry on but you will be ignored and you will be seen as the villain of the peace and Lynn57 will probably even ignore you for lowering your own good standards!

The average rise on ALL Bolton station is 124.6% since 2004 - although some station such as Bolton Station (formerly known as Bolton Trinity Street) it has only gone up by 87%, but Horwich Parkway has seen an increase of well over 170%

When the franchise was created the rolling stock lease company stated that the outgoing franchises could use the "newer" rolling stock in their other franchises - in this case First North western took the 4 and 5 coach "newer" trains to be used on the First Great Western Franchise and replaced them with the class142's which Northern Rail was basically inherited with!

As it is, during this course of the franchise we have gone from, at peak times, 10 trains an hour to 7 with less coaches and actually smaller coaches as Class 142's can hold at most 100 per coach where the class 15X can hold 130 per coach but in reality, as we all know, they tend to hold at least another 50% on top of what they do before crushing begins - but the ORR (Office of the Rail Regulator) admits there is no limit on passenger numbers as the trains are built to be safe!!!!

Out of 2500 new coahes/units 40 are coming to North of Watford with 30 going to Birmingham region and 10 for the rest of the North (on use for First Transpennine only routes between Manchester Airport and Glasgow/Edinburgh via Wigan)!!!! But Bolton will not see these new units!!!

As shown on BBC's NWT only 2 weeks ago the amount of money spent on public transport in London is £5000/person whereas it is only £840/person in the North West. It seems they are frightened of telling Boris Johnson to bugger off.

On another point everyone seems to blame Margaret Thatchers government for the privatisation of the railways when in fact it was actually John Majors government. Even Maggie T realised that the railway industry should NEVER be privatised like it has been done!!!!

The problem we have now is that each Government Body and Traain Operating company is blaming each other and trying to confuse people as to what and who does what - because, to be fair, even they don't really know as seen in the North West Coast fiasco with Virgin Trains!!!

On one last point Northern Rail has still to sign the extension to April 2016 and they only have 5 weeks left and the same goes for First TPE who only have about 10 weeks left - if they don't sign then they lose the rights to the franchise and they fall into the hands of the ORR like East Coast Trains is and then there is much higher possibility of losing even more units to the South who recently have had extensions or new contracts that last over 20 years compared to the 10 year contracts up here in the north!!!

The Blackburn line is not being doubled up but they are getting new signals and it is not part of the electrification plans so will still require the diesel units. So will the Southport services as, although the line to Wigan is now also going to get electrified a year after the main line through Bolton, the line between Wigan and Southport is NOT being electrified so, therefore, still will require diesel units.

Also lets not forget that Northern Rail has 79 sets of the Class 142's which are not DDA compliant and have to be replaced within 4 years, so this shortage of trains will not be disappearing anytime soon. as diesel units are no longer being bought!

To be fair I can't wait for electrification as from when we get it and get the 30+ year old train from Thameslink I will then campaign to get new trains based on the new train that the Dutch have introduced:-

http://en.wikipedia.

org/wiki/NS_SLT

Fantastic new 3, 6 and 8 coach trains which are fast and much greener than the so-called new trains that the South east will be getting!!!! I have frequently travelled on these SLT's and they are superb! We should be investing in these which are cheaper and safer than the trains we they are currently investing in and they are made by the same company Bombardier/Siemens!
Darren, as you seem intent on spoiling this thread I am going to repeat all the points I have made, especially for the casual reader who saw fit to by-pass your drivel and antagonism, and would like your thoughts on whether you agree or disagree and why? If you cannot see fit to respond on an adult level then carry on but you will be ignored and you will be seen as the villain of the peace and Lynn57 will probably even ignore you for lowering your own good standards! The average rise on ALL Bolton station is 124.6% since 2004 - although some station such as Bolton Station (formerly known as Bolton Trinity Street) it has only gone up by 87%, but Horwich Parkway has seen an increase of well over 170% When the franchise was created the rolling stock lease company stated that the outgoing franchises could use the "newer" rolling stock in their other franchises - in this case First North western took the 4 and 5 coach "newer" trains to be used on the First Great Western Franchise and replaced them with the class142's which Northern Rail was basically inherited with! As it is, during this course of the franchise we have gone from, at peak times, 10 trains an hour to 7 with less coaches and actually smaller coaches as Class 142's can hold at most 100 per coach where the class 15X can hold 130 per coach but in reality, as we all know, they tend to hold at least another 50% on top of what they do before crushing begins - but the ORR (Office of the Rail Regulator) admits there is no limit on passenger numbers as the trains are built to be safe!!!! Out of 2500 new coahes/units 40 are coming to North of Watford with 30 going to Birmingham region and 10 for the rest of the North (on use for First Transpennine only routes between Manchester Airport and Glasgow/Edinburgh via Wigan)!!!! But Bolton will not see these new units!!! As shown on BBC's NWT only 2 weeks ago the amount of money spent on public transport in London is £5000/person whereas it is only £840/person in the North West. It seems they are frightened of telling Boris Johnson to bugger off. On another point everyone seems to blame Margaret Thatchers government for the privatisation of the railways when in fact it was actually John Majors government. Even Maggie T realised that the railway industry should NEVER be privatised like it has been done!!!! The problem we have now is that each Government Body and Traain Operating company is blaming each other and trying to confuse people as to what and who does what - because, to be fair, even they don't really know as seen in the North West Coast fiasco with Virgin Trains!!! On one last point Northern Rail has still to sign the extension to April 2016 and they only have 5 weeks left and the same goes for First TPE who only have about 10 weeks left - if they don't sign then they lose the rights to the franchise and they fall into the hands of the ORR like East Coast Trains is and then there is much higher possibility of losing even more units to the South who recently have had extensions or new contracts that last over 20 years compared to the 10 year contracts up here in the north!!! The Blackburn line is not being doubled up but they are getting new signals and it is not part of the electrification plans so will still require the diesel units. So will the Southport services as, although the line to Wigan is now also going to get electrified a year after the main line through Bolton, the line between Wigan and Southport is NOT being electrified so, therefore, still will require diesel units. Also lets not forget that Northern Rail has 79 sets of the Class 142's which are not DDA compliant and have to be replaced within 4 years, so this shortage of trains will not be disappearing anytime soon. as diesel units are no longer being bought! To be fair I can't wait for electrification as from when we get it and get the 30+ year old train from Thameslink I will then campaign to get new trains based on the new train that the Dutch have introduced:- http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/NS_SLT Fantastic new 3, 6 and 8 coach trains which are fast and much greener than the so-called new trains that the South east will be getting!!!! I have frequently travelled on these SLT's and they are superb! We should be investing in these which are cheaper and safer than the trains we they are currently investing in and they are made by the same company Bombardier/Siemens! BWFC71
  • Score: -42

11:39pm Thu 13 Mar 14

BWFC71 says...

bwfcsmum wrote:
BWFC71 wrote:
Darren1951 wrote:
"I aint bothered" - you should change your name to Lauren.
You ought to know you popular culture as the Lauren phrase is "Bovered."

Have you anything to add to what I have said with regards to the trains, if not then shut up and stop wasting the newspapers bandwidth!

Do you disagree with anything I have said with regards to the trains? If not then why are you carrying on like a child whose lost an ice-cream?

If you continue to try to divert this thread away from the trains then there is no other course of action but to report every single one of your posts that do try to divert.

Again do you agree or disagree with what I have said with regards to the trains in my previous posts? If so , why?
oh dear

once again the mentally challanged moron is imploding again

sad little man........... your life must be so pathetic for you to constantly moan on here all the time

do you have alcohol problems ???? or is it just mental health issues
It seems you have changed your username again but the fullstops and the lightweight linkage to alcohol and drugs give you away getajob!!!!
[quote][p][bold]bwfcsmum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Darren1951[/bold] wrote: "I aint bothered" - you should change your name to Lauren.[/p][/quote]You ought to know you popular culture as the Lauren phrase is "Bovered." Have you anything to add to what I have said with regards to the trains, if not then shut up and stop wasting the newspapers bandwidth! Do you disagree with anything I have said with regards to the trains? If not then why are you carrying on like a child whose lost an ice-cream? If you continue to try to divert this thread away from the trains then there is no other course of action but to report every single one of your posts that do try to divert. Again do you agree or disagree with what I have said with regards to the trains in my previous posts? If so , why?[/p][/quote]oh dear once again the mentally challanged moron is imploding again sad little man........... your life must be so pathetic for you to constantly moan on here all the time do you have alcohol problems ???? or is it just mental health issues[/p][/quote]It seems you have changed your username again but the fullstops and the lightweight linkage to alcohol and drugs give you away getajob!!!! BWFC71
  • Score: -61

11:41pm Thu 13 Mar 14

bwfcsmum says...

and please provide your flight details as everyone asked last week............ after you once again told everyone you were getting a flight, but the times did not exist

kind of like you fantasy life you seem to think you lead

your eality - 45 years old, works as a telephonist in manchester in accident claims, spends all night on the bolton news comments section, has mental health issues, drinks a lot, is unhappy with his life and what a joke it is..... but pretends he is a jet set businessman who flys around the world and owns businesses everywhere

wake up wierdo..... you are the funniest internet loser ive ever met

its totally pathetic
and please provide your flight details as everyone asked last week............ after you once again told everyone you were getting a flight, but the times did not exist kind of like you fantasy life you seem to think you lead your eality - 45 years old, works as a telephonist in manchester in accident claims, spends all night on the bolton news comments section, has mental health issues, drinks a lot, is unhappy with his life and what a joke it is..... but pretends he is a jet set businessman who flys around the world and owns businesses everywhere wake up wierdo..... you are the funniest internet loser ive ever met its totally pathetic bwfcsmum
  • Score: 24

11:43pm Thu 13 Mar 14

bwfcsmum says...

BWFC71 wrote:
Darren1951 wrote:
"I aint bothered" - you should change your name to Lauren.
You ought to know you popular culture as the Lauren phrase is "Bovered."

Have you anything to add to what I have said with regards to the trains, if not then shut up and stop wasting the newspapers bandwidth!

Do you disagree with anything I have said with regards to the trains? If not then why are you carrying on like a child whose lost an ice-cream?

If you continue to try to divert this thread away from the trains then there is no other course of action but to report every single one of your posts that do try to divert.

Again do you agree or disagree with what I have said with regards to the trains in my previous posts? If so , why?
oh no please dont report peoples posts

it will kill them in real life

oh hang on............ it wont........... you live here, noone else does

wow you have a serious mental health problem
[quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Darren1951[/bold] wrote: "I aint bothered" - you should change your name to Lauren.[/p][/quote]You ought to know you popular culture as the Lauren phrase is "Bovered." Have you anything to add to what I have said with regards to the trains, if not then shut up and stop wasting the newspapers bandwidth! Do you disagree with anything I have said with regards to the trains? If not then why are you carrying on like a child whose lost an ice-cream? If you continue to try to divert this thread away from the trains then there is no other course of action but to report every single one of your posts that do try to divert. Again do you agree or disagree with what I have said with regards to the trains in my previous posts? If so , why?[/p][/quote]oh no please dont report peoples posts it will kill them in real life oh hang on............ it wont........... you live here, noone else does wow you have a serious mental health problem bwfcsmum
  • Score: 17

11:54pm Thu 13 Mar 14

BWFC71 says...

BWFCSMUM:

Please comment on the news story and keep away from personal abuse like you have done in the last 3 posts.

Do you have a viewpoint about the so-called extra carriages being available from December this year?

Do you have any thoughts as to which way it could help the Bolton commuters to get to/from work?

What other suggestions, with regards to the trains services, do you have?
BWFCSMUM: Please comment on the news story and keep away from personal abuse like you have done in the last 3 posts. Do you have a viewpoint about the so-called extra carriages being available from December this year? Do you have any thoughts as to which way it could help the Bolton commuters to get to/from work? What other suggestions, with regards to the trains services, do you have? BWFC71
  • Score: -38

12:07am Fri 14 Mar 14

Maplins Holiday Camp says...

Jesus H Christ - I was going to comment on this but why bother when you have idiots in the form of Darren1951 and BWFCSMUM spoiling it at least BWFC71 has tried to keep on thread, for a change.

This paper website is going downhill fast with these idiots spoiling the threads and giving very personal abuse to other posters.

If BWFC71 hasn't reported you, then I will because I am truly getting fed up with this mentality by you individuals intent on spoiling this papers website!
Jesus H Christ - I was going to comment on this but why bother when you have idiots in the form of Darren1951 and BWFCSMUM spoiling it at least BWFC71 has tried to keep on thread, for a change. This paper website is going downhill fast with these idiots spoiling the threads and giving very personal abuse to other posters. If BWFC71 hasn't reported you, then I will because I am truly getting fed up with this mentality by you individuals intent on spoiling this papers website! Maplins Holiday Camp
  • Score: -49

4:17pm Fri 14 Mar 14

mdavies11 says...

We shuoldnt spend money on trains when their are starving people in england and old people in the cold
the old trains are fine
We shuoldnt spend money on trains when their are starving people in england and old people in the cold the old trains are fine mdavies11
  • Score: -4

4:54pm Fri 14 Mar 14

BWFC71 says...

mdavies11 wrote:
We shuoldnt spend money on trains when their are starving people in england and old people in the cold
the old trains are fine
No spending on trains mean people cannot get to work and as such lose their jobs thus creating a larger proportion in the unemployment benefits which in turns creates less taxation thus less money for benefits thus more people become below the poverty line.....

Wouldn't it not be better to spend on public transport to help get people to work thus creating more jobs thus creating work and lowering the unemployment levels and as such making money, more paying taxation means more for benefits for those living below the poverty line and then that equates to less in poverty!!!

Have you ever tried catching a Class 142 when its already full as it pulls into Bolton - I somehow doubt it!

Or if you are trolling then this is not the best way to do it as your trying is painfully weak.
[quote][p][bold]mdavies11[/bold] wrote: We shuoldnt spend money on trains when their are starving people in england and old people in the cold the old trains are fine[/p][/quote]No spending on trains mean people cannot get to work and as such lose their jobs thus creating a larger proportion in the unemployment benefits which in turns creates less taxation thus less money for benefits thus more people become below the poverty line..... Wouldn't it not be better to spend on public transport to help get people to work thus creating more jobs thus creating work and lowering the unemployment levels and as such making money, more paying taxation means more for benefits for those living below the poverty line and then that equates to less in poverty!!! Have you ever tried catching a Class 142 when its already full as it pulls into Bolton - I somehow doubt it! Or if you are trolling then this is not the best way to do it as your trying is painfully weak. BWFC71
  • Score: -37

5:33pm Fri 14 Mar 14

Southfield 62 says...

BWFC71 wrote:
Southfield 62 wrote:
When Northern won the rail franchise on 2004, its was expected there would be no significant rise in passenger numbers. The average increase in passenger numbers they claim is about 40%. However if you look at the local picture ie Bolton and its 10 other stations, the increase is 100%. Wouldnt mind betting that Bolton has no more carriages now than in 2004. Why. Because all the money invested in the railways over the last decade has been spent in London and the south. I dont know what our MPs said to the transport minister but it wasnt enough. The transport minister seems to think a few extra carriages will solve the problems. No it wont. Only significant investment in new rolling stock will solve these problems. There are currently 2500 new carriages on order and only 40 of these will see service in the nort west and none in Bolton until the electrics go up. This gross imbalance of allocation needs sorting out. But i dont hold much hope. After all, we are north of Watford.
In fact I actually worked it out a few weeks ago and made a comment about this.

The average rise on ALL Bolton station is 124.6% since 2004 - although some station such as Bolton Station (formerly known as Bolton Trinity Street) it has only gone up by 87%, but Horwich Parkway has seen an increase of well over 170%

When the franchise was created the rolling stock lease company stated that the outgoing franchises could use the "newer" rolling stock in their other franchises - in this case First North western took the 4 and 5 coach "newer" trains to be used on the First Great Western Franchise and replaced them with the class142's which Northern Rail was basically inherited with!

As it is, during this course of the franchise we have gone from, at peak times, 10 trains an hour to 7 with less coaches and actually smaller coaches as Class 142's can hold at most 100 per coach where the class 15X can hold 130 per coach but in reality, as we all know, they tend to hold at least another 50% on top of what they do before crushing begins - but the ORR (Office of the Rail Regulator) admits there is no limit on passenger numbers as the trains are built to be safe!!!!

You are almost right with the new coaches. Out of 2500 40 are coming to North of Watford with 30 going to Birmingham region and 10 for the rest of the North (on use for First Transpennine only routes between Manchester Airport and Glasgow/Edinburgh via Wigan)!!!! But Bolton will not see these new units!!!

As shown on BBC's NWT only 2 weeks ago the amount of money spent on public transport in London is £5000/person whereas it is only £840/person in the North West. It seems they are frightened of telling Boris Johnson to bugger off.

On another point everyone seems to blame Margaret Thatchers government for the privatisation of the railways when in fact it was actually John Majors government. Even Maggie T realised that the railway industry should NEVER be privatised like it has been done!!!!

The problem we have now is that each Government Body and Traain Operating company is blaming each other and trying to confuse people as to what and who does what - because, to be fair, even they don't really know as seen in the North West Coast fiasco with Virgin Trains!!!

On one last point Northern Rail has still to sign the extension to April 2016 and they only have 5 weeks left and the same goes for First TPE who only have about 10 weeks left - if they don't sign then they lose the rights to the franchise and they fall into the hands of the ORR like East Coast Trains is and then there is much higher possibility of losing even more units to the South who recently have had extensions or new contracts that last over 20 years compared to the 10 year contracts up here in the north!!!
I thought I was right, transpennine are due to receive 10 new trains each with 4 coaches. I then believe that they are going to waste them by sending them up to Scotland via the west coast main line. I say waste them for 2 reasons, firstly the trains they are receiving are excellent regional railway carriages but are not inter city standard. Secondly, Virgin already run at least 2 trains per hour to Scotland from the north west and as now both are usually the 9/11 coach pendalino (a proper inter city train), The capacity is anywhere between 900 and 1200 seats per hour with these trains. There are far more seats than bums on them. So adding to this capacity does not make sense when the Manchester region has a chronic shortage of carriages.
Must admit, I am not very political, more practical type, I don't understand how all this train operating companies work, who finace's them and who dictates what stock they are given etc (assume its the government tho). From what I am seeing tho, it looks like we have been fobbed off again, the regions railways have not moved on much from the victorian's with a total lack of investment by governments over the past 40 years as I know off. Billions get spent on London's new trains and bugger all up north.
[quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Southfield 62[/bold] wrote: When Northern won the rail franchise on 2004, its was expected there would be no significant rise in passenger numbers. The average increase in passenger numbers they claim is about 40%. However if you look at the local picture ie Bolton and its 10 other stations, the increase is 100%. Wouldnt mind betting that Bolton has no more carriages now than in 2004. Why. Because all the money invested in the railways over the last decade has been spent in London and the south. I dont know what our MPs said to the transport minister but it wasnt enough. The transport minister seems to think a few extra carriages will solve the problems. No it wont. Only significant investment in new rolling stock will solve these problems. There are currently 2500 new carriages on order and only 40 of these will see service in the nort west and none in Bolton until the electrics go up. This gross imbalance of allocation needs sorting out. But i dont hold much hope. After all, we are north of Watford.[/p][/quote]In fact I actually worked it out a few weeks ago and made a comment about this. The average rise on ALL Bolton station is 124.6% since 2004 - although some station such as Bolton Station (formerly known as Bolton Trinity Street) it has only gone up by 87%, but Horwich Parkway has seen an increase of well over 170% When the franchise was created the rolling stock lease company stated that the outgoing franchises could use the "newer" rolling stock in their other franchises - in this case First North western took the 4 and 5 coach "newer" trains to be used on the First Great Western Franchise and replaced them with the class142's which Northern Rail was basically inherited with! As it is, during this course of the franchise we have gone from, at peak times, 10 trains an hour to 7 with less coaches and actually smaller coaches as Class 142's can hold at most 100 per coach where the class 15X can hold 130 per coach but in reality, as we all know, they tend to hold at least another 50% on top of what they do before crushing begins - but the ORR (Office of the Rail Regulator) admits there is no limit on passenger numbers as the trains are built to be safe!!!! You are almost right with the new coaches. Out of 2500 40 are coming to North of Watford with 30 going to Birmingham region and 10 for the rest of the North (on use for First Transpennine only routes between Manchester Airport and Glasgow/Edinburgh via Wigan)!!!! But Bolton will not see these new units!!! As shown on BBC's NWT only 2 weeks ago the amount of money spent on public transport in London is £5000/person whereas it is only £840/person in the North West. It seems they are frightened of telling Boris Johnson to bugger off. On another point everyone seems to blame Margaret Thatchers government for the privatisation of the railways when in fact it was actually John Majors government. Even Maggie T realised that the railway industry should NEVER be privatised like it has been done!!!! The problem we have now is that each Government Body and Traain Operating company is blaming each other and trying to confuse people as to what and who does what - because, to be fair, even they don't really know as seen in the North West Coast fiasco with Virgin Trains!!! On one last point Northern Rail has still to sign the extension to April 2016 and they only have 5 weeks left and the same goes for First TPE who only have about 10 weeks left - if they don't sign then they lose the rights to the franchise and they fall into the hands of the ORR like East Coast Trains is and then there is much higher possibility of losing even more units to the South who recently have had extensions or new contracts that last over 20 years compared to the 10 year contracts up here in the north!!![/p][/quote]I thought I was right, transpennine are due to receive 10 new trains each with 4 coaches. I then believe that they are going to waste them by sending them up to Scotland via the west coast main line. I say waste them for 2 reasons, firstly the trains they are receiving are excellent regional railway carriages but are not inter city standard. Secondly, Virgin already run at least 2 trains per hour to Scotland from the north west and as now both are usually the 9/11 coach pendalino (a proper inter city train), The capacity is anywhere between 900 and 1200 seats per hour with these trains. There are far more seats than bums on them. So adding to this capacity does not make sense when the Manchester region has a chronic shortage of carriages. Must admit, I am not very political, more practical type, I don't understand how all this train operating companies work, who finace's them and who dictates what stock they are given etc (assume its the government tho). From what I am seeing tho, it looks like we have been fobbed off again, the regions railways have not moved on much from the victorian's with a total lack of investment by governments over the past 40 years as I know off. Billions get spent on London's new trains and bugger all up north. Southfield 62
  • Score: 3

5:38pm Fri 14 Mar 14

mdavies11 says...

Yes but "more benefits for those living below the poverty line " is a bad thing because means it becomes uneconomic to work so a cycle of dependency and lifelong poverty is created, which plunges your country into dysfunction,poverty and debt.

Spending on trains is a waste which could be used on really important things - like the roads (90% of commuter journeys).
Yes but "more benefits for those living below the poverty line " is a bad thing because means it becomes uneconomic to work so a cycle of dependency and lifelong poverty is created, which plunges your country into dysfunction,poverty and debt. Spending on trains is a waste which could be used on really important things - like the roads (90% of commuter journeys). mdavies11
  • Score: -3

9:07pm Fri 14 Mar 14

BWFC71 says...

mdavies11 wrote:
Yes but "more benefits for those living below the poverty line " is a bad thing because means it becomes uneconomic to work so a cycle of dependency and lifelong poverty is created, which plunges your country into dysfunction,poverty and debt.

Spending on trains is a waste which could be used on really important things - like the roads (90% of commuter journeys).
Not really due to the fact that the roads are already full and there is no other land to build roads then there is the cost of operating a car. Car insurance, Vehicle Excise Duty, petrol, repairs, servicing, MOT and lets not forget the parking prices (between £4.50/day to over £25/day) as well - all in excess of what a weekly or monthly or annual rail ticket or bus ticket costs - and then there is the travelling time which is approximately 45 minutes to over an hour travelling time (or has been some cases recently in the evening well over 2 hours travelling time from Manchester) whereas the train only takes between 15 to 20 minutes from Bolton Station to the various stations in Salford and Manchester - thus more efficient, more work walking time between car parks/rail stations to work is about same so no difference there!!

And with regards to the poverty line there is a big difference between living off benefits and just living!!!! Therefore you are recommending that people should be in poverty and die in poverty because they cannot afford food, clothes or even energy never mind internet which is a requirement for benefits nowadays to search for jobs via the governments universal jobsearch website!!!! Those on the povertyline/benefits should be on the "minimum wage" whilst those in work should be at least on the "living" wage!!! Lets not forget that there is a record number of people actually in work, in the UK, than what there has ever been and we are still in the final flings of a great world depression!!!!
[quote][p][bold]mdavies11[/bold] wrote: Yes but "more benefits for those living below the poverty line " is a bad thing because means it becomes uneconomic to work so a cycle of dependency and lifelong poverty is created, which plunges your country into dysfunction,poverty and debt. Spending on trains is a waste which could be used on really important things - like the roads (90% of commuter journeys).[/p][/quote]Not really due to the fact that the roads are already full and there is no other land to build roads then there is the cost of operating a car. Car insurance, Vehicle Excise Duty, petrol, repairs, servicing, MOT and lets not forget the parking prices (between £4.50/day to over £25/day) as well - all in excess of what a weekly or monthly or annual rail ticket or bus ticket costs - and then there is the travelling time which is approximately 45 minutes to over an hour travelling time (or has been some cases recently in the evening well over 2 hours travelling time from Manchester) whereas the train only takes between 15 to 20 minutes from Bolton Station to the various stations in Salford and Manchester - thus more efficient, more work walking time between car parks/rail stations to work is about same so no difference there!! And with regards to the poverty line there is a big difference between living off benefits and just living!!!! Therefore you are recommending that people should be in poverty and die in poverty because they cannot afford food, clothes or even energy never mind internet which is a requirement for benefits nowadays to search for jobs via the governments universal jobsearch website!!!! Those on the povertyline/benefits should be on the "minimum wage" whilst those in work should be at least on the "living" wage!!! Lets not forget that there is a record number of people actually in work, in the UK, than what there has ever been and we are still in the final flings of a great world depression!!!! BWFC71
  • Score: -53

10:23pm Fri 14 Mar 14

BWFC71 says...

Meanwhile.....

Couldn't Northern Rail borrow the Northern Belle for 2 trips in the morning and possibly 3 or 4 trips in the evening peak times - there seems to be enough scope for them as they do travel through Bolton every now and again thus proving there is space on the lines. Plus the Northern Belle can be up to 10 coaches long which would definitely reduce the crushing on the peak time trains!
Meanwhile..... Couldn't Northern Rail borrow the Northern Belle for 2 trips in the morning and possibly 3 or 4 trips in the evening peak times - there seems to be enough scope for them as they do travel through Bolton every now and again thus proving there is space on the lines. Plus the Northern Belle can be up to 10 coaches long which would definitely reduce the crushing on the peak time trains! BWFC71
  • Score: -36

9:16am Sat 15 Mar 14

Maplins Holiday Camp says...

What is with the minus thumbs on BWFC71 or hasn't the BN editors sorted out the problem with the pathetic idiot with the technology (come on -20 and -9 through the night when no one actually uses the thumbs - has to be one idiot spooling the paper for us casual readers!)

Anyway I honestly think it is a great idea and Northern Rail, I believe, should look into it especially if just to alleviate the crushing from Bolton at peak times, or could even be used as a Bolton to Leeds and solve the crushing problem on that route, via Hebden Bridge, which is just as bad!!!

I believe it is called thinking outside the box and it seems the bosses at Northern are incapable off doing that. I was actually at Bolton station, on Friday, when the Northern Belle came through and it was 10 coaches long and it still didn't cover the whole length of Platform 4.
What is with the minus thumbs on BWFC71 or hasn't the BN editors sorted out the problem with the pathetic idiot with the technology (come on -20 and -9 through the night when no one actually uses the thumbs - has to be one idiot spooling the paper for us casual readers!) Anyway I honestly think it is a great idea and Northern Rail, I believe, should look into it especially if just to alleviate the crushing from Bolton at peak times, or could even be used as a Bolton to Leeds and solve the crushing problem on that route, via Hebden Bridge, which is just as bad!!! I believe it is called thinking outside the box and it seems the bosses at Northern are incapable off doing that. I was actually at Bolton station, on Friday, when the Northern Belle came through and it was 10 coaches long and it still didn't cover the whole length of Platform 4. Maplins Holiday Camp
  • Score: -62

10:39am Sat 15 Mar 14

RicPou says...

This thread has becom a little heated as there is concern about a less frequent service via Bolton, with the result that having fewer trains and thus fewer passenger coaches is likely to cause more overcrowding, Right?
There are several criticisms:
1) The nearly 30 year old PACER diesel units are inadequate for the work they have to do. Some are ver grotty as they still have bus style seats to go with their original concept of putting a bus body on a rail wagon frame. Clever, but,it would have been better if there had been more trains which are 'cousins' the longer type 153 DMUs which operate in West Yorkshire.
2) Electric trains are coming, but these will be 'cast offs' from routes around Greater London. Nevertheless.these will be a big improvement as each 'unit' has 4 coaches.
3) 10 new trains are being delivered for the Manchester - Glasgow or Edinburgh. These trains will not operate through Bolton and Chorley, hence the row over fewer trains and more crowding through Bolton.
This thread has becom a little heated as there is concern about a less frequent service via Bolton, with the result that having fewer trains and thus fewer passenger coaches is likely to cause more overcrowding, Right? There are several criticisms: 1) The nearly 30 year old PACER diesel units are inadequate for the work they have to do. Some are ver grotty as they still have bus style seats to go with their original concept of putting a bus body on a rail wagon frame. Clever, but,it would have been better if there had been more trains which are 'cousins' the longer type 153 DMUs which operate in West Yorkshire. 2) Electric trains are coming, but these will be 'cast offs' from routes around Greater London. Nevertheless.these will be a big improvement as each 'unit' has 4 coaches. 3) 10 new trains are being delivered for the Manchester - Glasgow or Edinburgh. These trains will not operate through Bolton and Chorley, hence the row over fewer trains and more crowding through Bolton. RicPou
  • Score: 0

11:14am Sat 15 Mar 14

BWFC71 says...

Problem is in that West Yorkshire, South Yorkshire and all the other PTE's on that side of the Pennine's actually clubbed together to but new units to be used on local services. All that happened on this side of the Pennines is that All the PTE's, except Manchester, wanted to do the same but couldn't as Manchester didn't want any part of it as they wanted to invest in Metrolink!

So some of the blame does lie at the door what was GMPTE, now TfGM, for not investing in units to help the towns that would not be getting the Metrolink - basically they just gave up on us!!!
Problem is in that West Yorkshire, South Yorkshire and all the other PTE's on that side of the Pennine's actually clubbed together to but new units to be used on local services. All that happened on this side of the Pennines is that All the PTE's, except Manchester, wanted to do the same but couldn't as Manchester didn't want any part of it as they wanted to invest in Metrolink! So some of the blame does lie at the door what was GMPTE, now TfGM, for not investing in units to help the towns that would not be getting the Metrolink - basically they just gave up on us!!! BWFC71
  • Score: -60

12:10pm Sat 15 Mar 14

Jackael says...

BWFC71 wrote:
Problem is in that West Yorkshire, South Yorkshire and all the other PTE's on that side of the Pennine's actually clubbed together to but new units to be used on local services. All that happened on this side of the Pennines is that All the PTE's, except Manchester, wanted to do the same but couldn't as Manchester didn't want any part of it as they wanted to invest in Metrolink!

So some of the blame does lie at the door what was GMPTE, now TfGM, for not investing in units to help the towns that would not be getting the Metrolink - basically they just gave up on us!!!
I see you're posting under your other username again, Hi De Hi campers.
[quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: Problem is in that West Yorkshire, South Yorkshire and all the other PTE's on that side of the Pennine's actually clubbed together to but new units to be used on local services. All that happened on this side of the Pennines is that All the PTE's, except Manchester, wanted to do the same but couldn't as Manchester didn't want any part of it as they wanted to invest in Metrolink! So some of the blame does lie at the door what was GMPTE, now TfGM, for not investing in units to help the towns that would not be getting the Metrolink - basically they just gave up on us!!![/p][/quote]I see you're posting under your other username again, Hi De Hi campers. Jackael
  • Score: 1

12:22pm Sat 15 Mar 14

Darren1951 says...

Now, that IS interesting! Admittedly, I was being a bit silly on this thread the other night, but if what you say is true, I think it raises serious questions about Voldemort (he who must not be named?). However, keeping roughly on topic, could someone please explain what the Northern Belle is? TYIA
Now, that IS interesting! Admittedly, I was being a bit silly on this thread the other night, but if what you say is true, I think it raises serious questions about Voldemort (he who must not be named?). However, keeping roughly on topic, could someone please explain what the Northern Belle is? TYIA Darren1951
  • Score: 30

12:44pm Sat 15 Mar 14

BWFC71 says...

@ Jackael - pathetic attempt at humour doesn't suit you!!!! And to try to put me with yet another commentator is beyond a joke - now are you using Jackael instead of getajob or bwfcsmum today?


@ Darren- you weren't being silly you were being pathetic, obtrusive and down right ignorant, especially to the casual reader and there are many that do come on here, also bringing another poster, Lynn57, into your argument with me just shows your own mentality!!!


Anyway back on relative topic.

I have done a quick search on Google and it brings this up

http://www.luxurytra
injourneys.com/web/u
ktr/northern_belle.j
sp

and this is a quick overview of the company (although not reliable due to the fact it comes from Wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.
org/wiki/Orient-Expr
ess_Hotels
@ Jackael - pathetic attempt at humour doesn't suit you!!!! And to try to put me with yet another commentator is beyond a joke - now are you using Jackael instead of getajob or bwfcsmum today? @ Darren- you weren't being silly you were being pathetic, obtrusive and down right ignorant, especially to the casual reader and there are many that do come on here, also bringing another poster, Lynn57, into your argument with me just shows your own mentality!!! Anyway back on relative topic. I have done a quick search on Google and it brings this up http://www.luxurytra injourneys.com/web/u ktr/northern_belle.j sp and this is a quick overview of the company (although not reliable due to the fact it comes from Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Orient-Expr ess_Hotels BWFC71
  • Score: -45

12:47pm Sat 15 Mar 14

Darren1951 says...

@ Darren- you weren't being silly
WIBBLE?
@ Darren- you weren't being silly WIBBLE? Darren1951
  • Score: 22

5:24pm Sat 15 Mar 14

BWFC71 says...

Darren1951 wrote:
@ Darren- you weren't being silly
WIBBLE?
Why do you keep quoting that one word from that one line from the last episode of Blackadder Goes Fourth where Captain Blackadder is trying to get himself from going over the top. In that scene he is acting the goat!

Therefore when you are writing "wibble" does that mean you are sat there with underpants on your head and pens and pencils sticking from your ears and nose? - It paints an awful picture of you, doesn't it?

You started off wanting to bee a serious contributor to this website and now you have degenerated into a piece of scum that I would never want the bottom of my shoe, even involving other posters who do not want to be involved in pottery squabbles such as Lynn57 and yet you have not apologised to that poster for involving them, without asking!!!

That is why I say that you are pathetic, obtrusive and down right ignorant!
[quote][p][bold]Darren1951[/bold] wrote: @ Darren- you weren't being silly WIBBLE?[/p][/quote]Why do you keep quoting that one word from that one line from the last episode of Blackadder Goes Fourth where Captain Blackadder is trying to get himself from going over the top. In that scene he is acting the goat! Therefore when you are writing "wibble" does that mean you are sat there with underpants on your head and pens and pencils sticking from your ears and nose? - It paints an awful picture of you, doesn't it? You started off wanting to bee a serious contributor to this website and now you have degenerated into a piece of scum that I would never want the bottom of my shoe, even involving other posters who do not want to be involved in pottery squabbles such as Lynn57 and yet you have not apologised to that poster for involving them, without asking!!! That is why I say that you are pathetic, obtrusive and down right ignorant! BWFC71
  • Score: -52

5:43pm Sat 15 Mar 14

BWFC71 says...

Darren1951 wrote:
@ Darren- you weren't being silly
WIBBLE?
Not even a thank you for the information with regards to Northern Belle - hoe ignorant!
[quote][p][bold]Darren1951[/bold] wrote: @ Darren- you weren't being silly WIBBLE?[/p][/quote]Not even a thank you for the information with regards to Northern Belle - hoe ignorant! BWFC71
  • Score: -35

8:05pm Sat 15 Mar 14

George X says...

I see BWFC71 has ruined another thread, and again posting under multiple usernames, the guy should be banned.
anyway the railways should be re- nationalised , i mean how crazy is it that there is even a campaign to get more carriages on a busy route like this one, there should be a back up of spare carriages, not taking them from one service to prop up another, i would'nt be surprised if some so-called third worl country's had a better rail service than us. !!
I see BWFC71 has ruined another thread, and again posting under multiple usernames, the guy should be banned. anyway the railways should be re- nationalised , i mean how crazy is it that there is even a campaign to get more carriages on a busy route like this one, there should be a back up of spare carriages, not taking them from one service to prop up another, i would'nt be surprised if some so-called third worl country's had a better rail service than us. !! George X
  • Score: 5

8:24am Sun 16 Mar 14

Wigan Trotter says...

No doubt the replacements will be more older units from other franchises down South due to them getting newer and more modern 4/5/6 coach Units.
No doubt the replacements will be more older units from other franchises down South due to them getting newer and more modern 4/5/6 coach Units. Wigan Trotter
  • Score: 0

11:40am Sun 16 Mar 14

Darren1951 says...

George X wrote:
I see BWFC71 has ruined another thread, and again posting under multiple usernames, the guy should be banned.
anyway the railways should be re- nationalised , i mean how crazy is it that there is even a campaign to get more carriages on a busy route like this one, there should be a back up of spare carriages, not taking them from one service to prop up another, i would'nt be surprised if some so-called third worl country's had a better rail service than us. !!
Glad to see that someone else isn't afraid to speak in favour of re-nationialisation. It may not be a perfect solution, but it'd be a **** sight better than the mess we've got now.
[quote][p][bold]George X[/bold] wrote: I see BWFC71 has ruined another thread, and again posting under multiple usernames, the guy should be banned. anyway the railways should be re- nationalised , i mean how crazy is it that there is even a campaign to get more carriages on a busy route like this one, there should be a back up of spare carriages, not taking them from one service to prop up another, i would'nt be surprised if some so-called third worl country's had a better rail service than us. !![/p][/quote]Glad to see that someone else isn't afraid to speak in favour of re-nationialisation. It may not be a perfect solution, but it'd be a **** sight better than the mess we've got now. Darren1951
  • Score: -1

12:10pm Sun 16 Mar 14

Darren1951 says...

BWFC71 wrote:
Darren1951 wrote:
@ Darren- you weren't being silly
WIBBLE?
Not even a thank you for the information with regards to Northern Belle - hoe ignorant!
Hoe?
"wanting to bee a serious " - How dare you?. I've never beed anyone, or anything, in my life!

"when you are writing "wibble" does that mean you are sat there with underpants on your head and pens and pencils sticking from your ears and nose?" ABSOLUTELY!

As I recall, you didn't give me any actual INFORMATION, did you, just a couple of links? I'm forgetting though, you're virtually incapable of giving of giving concise answers to almost any question, aren't you?

Oops, nearly forgot - "PTE's on that side of the Pennine's" - superfluous apostrophe, you dunderhead.

Go and boil you bottom, you son of a silly person.
[quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Darren1951[/bold] wrote: @ Darren- you weren't being silly WIBBLE?[/p][/quote]Not even a thank you for the information with regards to Northern Belle - hoe ignorant![/p][/quote]Hoe? "wanting to bee a serious " - How dare you?. I've never beed anyone, or anything, in my life! "when you are writing "wibble" does that mean you are sat there with underpants on your head and pens and pencils sticking from your ears and nose?" ABSOLUTELY! As I recall, you didn't give me any actual INFORMATION, did you, just a couple of links? I'm forgetting though, you're virtually incapable of giving of giving concise answers to almost any question, aren't you? Oops, nearly forgot - "PTE's on that side of the Pennine's" - superfluous apostrophe, you dunderhead. Go and boil you bottom, you son of a silly person. Darren1951
  • Score: -1

3:19pm Sun 16 Mar 14

BWFC71 says...

Darren1951 wrote:
BWFC71 wrote:
Darren1951 wrote:
@ Darren- you weren't being silly
WIBBLE?
Not even a thank you for the information with regards to Northern Belle - hoe ignorant!
Hoe?
"wanting to bee a serious " - How dare you?. I've never beed anyone, or anything, in my life!

"when you are writing "wibble" does that mean you are sat there with underpants on your head and pens and pencils sticking from your ears and nose?" ABSOLUTELY!

As I recall, you didn't give me any actual INFORMATION, did you, just a couple of links? I'm forgetting though, you're virtually incapable of giving of giving concise answers to almost any question, aren't you?

Oops, nearly forgot - "PTE's on that side of the Pennine's" - superfluous apostrophe, you dunderhead.

Go and boil you bottom, you son of a silly person.
Darren - again you have fallen into your own trap of being an idiot and I am sure Lynn57 will appreciate you clogging up and messing yet another thread of your insane abuse towards a poster!!!!

Why can you not just sit down, have a brew, calm yourself down before you have a stroke or even worse a fatal heart attack as that is the ay you are heading with this vendetta. A pathetic vendetta, by the way!!!!

I now have to ask, what have YOU gained from spoiling this thread and spoiling it for the casual reader?

If its nothing then do you not see you pathetic vendetta has done nothing. If it to try and show me up and top me from coming on here, then again it shows you are an idiot and it hasn't stopped me from commenting and as such you pathetic vendetta is, again, null and void.

Also, this is NOT and English class but an area were one can air their views - supposedly without being vilified by others (which is against the rules if you had taken your time to read the rules). Vilification is actually a banning offence and you have done plenty, on this thread alone, to determine a ban! Spelling is a downside of mine due to dyslexia and as this does not has a spellchecker then mistakes do happen - so why are you so intent on pointing them out? Are you happy in showing your ignorance and blatant discrimination against by handicap?


Now lets get this thread back on track or do I have to report even more of your posts?

What a pathetic discriminative individual!
[quote][p][bold]Darren1951[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Darren1951[/bold] wrote: @ Darren- you weren't being silly WIBBLE?[/p][/quote]Not even a thank you for the information with regards to Northern Belle - hoe ignorant![/p][/quote]Hoe? "wanting to bee a serious " - How dare you?. I've never beed anyone, or anything, in my life! "when you are writing "wibble" does that mean you are sat there with underpants on your head and pens and pencils sticking from your ears and nose?" ABSOLUTELY! As I recall, you didn't give me any actual INFORMATION, did you, just a couple of links? I'm forgetting though, you're virtually incapable of giving of giving concise answers to almost any question, aren't you? Oops, nearly forgot - "PTE's on that side of the Pennine's" - superfluous apostrophe, you dunderhead. Go and boil you bottom, you son of a silly person.[/p][/quote]Darren - again you have fallen into your own trap of being an idiot and I am sure Lynn57 will appreciate you clogging up and messing yet another thread of your insane abuse towards a poster!!!! Why can you not just sit down, have a brew, calm yourself down before you have a stroke or even worse a fatal heart attack as that is the ay you are heading with this vendetta. A pathetic vendetta, by the way!!!! I now have to ask, what have YOU gained from spoiling this thread and spoiling it for the casual reader? If its nothing then do you not see you pathetic vendetta has done nothing. If it to try and show me up and top me from coming on here, then again it shows you are an idiot and it hasn't stopped me from commenting and as such you pathetic vendetta is, again, null and void. Also, this is NOT and English class but an area were one can air their views - supposedly without being vilified by others (which is against the rules if you had taken your time to read the rules). Vilification is actually a banning offence and you have done plenty, on this thread alone, to determine a ban! Spelling is a downside of mine due to dyslexia and as this does not has a spellchecker then mistakes do happen - so why are you so intent on pointing them out? Are you happy in showing your ignorance and blatant discrimination against by handicap? Now lets get this thread back on track or do I have to report even more of your posts? What a pathetic discriminative individual! BWFC71
  • Score: -24

3:27pm Sun 16 Mar 14

Darren1951 says...

BWFC71 - if you think I've been abusive so far, I haven't even started! Dyslexia? And a few other complaints from the sound of things. WIBBLE!
BWFC71 - if you think I've been abusive so far, I haven't even started! Dyslexia? And a few other complaints from the sound of things. WIBBLE! Darren1951
  • Score: -2

3:28pm Sun 16 Mar 14

BWFC71 says...

George X wrote:
I see BWFC71 has ruined another thread, and again posting under multiple usernames, the guy should be banned.
anyway the railways should be re- nationalised , i mean how crazy is it that there is even a campaign to get more carriages on a busy route like this one, there should be a back up of spare carriages, not taking them from one service to prop up another, i would'nt be surprised if some so-called third worl country's had a better rail service than us. !!
Nice to see you are using George X, for a change instead of Getajob or BWFCSMUM or Jackael.

Does your employer know what you do n the nightshift?

How would (s)he react if (s)he they did know?

How is Nuneaton today, by the way?
[quote][p][bold]George X[/bold] wrote: I see BWFC71 has ruined another thread, and again posting under multiple usernames, the guy should be banned. anyway the railways should be re- nationalised , i mean how crazy is it that there is even a campaign to get more carriages on a busy route like this one, there should be a back up of spare carriages, not taking them from one service to prop up another, i would'nt be surprised if some so-called third worl country's had a better rail service than us. !![/p][/quote]Nice to see you are using George X, for a change instead of Getajob or BWFCSMUM or Jackael. Does your employer know what you do n the nightshift? How would (s)he react if (s)he they did know? How is Nuneaton today, by the way? BWFC71
  • Score: -30

3:32pm Sun 16 Mar 14

BWFC71 says...

630pm Thur 13 Mar 14 - Darren1951:
Lynne57 - how long do you reckon before we're blessed with a visitation from you know who?

This is when the thread was hijacked by the idiot!

My first post was at 10.36pm Thur 13 Mar 14 - 4 hours and 6 minutes after the thread was hijacked! And lets see I actually stayed on the thread and wanted the idiot and you to stay on thread that night and only yesterday did I sideline from it

And yet you call for me to be banned when I stay on topic and you come on and give abuse, in various guises!!! PATHETIC!
630pm Thur 13 Mar 14 - Darren1951: Lynne57 - how long do you reckon before we're blessed with a visitation from you know who? This is when the thread was hijacked by the idiot! My first post was at 10.36pm Thur 13 Mar 14 - 4 hours and 6 minutes after the thread was hijacked! And lets see I actually stayed on the thread and wanted the idiot and you to stay on thread that night and only yesterday did I sideline from it And yet you call for me to be banned when I stay on topic and you come on and give abuse, in various guises!!! PATHETIC! BWFC71
  • Score: -26

3:40pm Sun 16 Mar 14

Darren1951 says...

BWFC71 wrote:
630pm Thur 13 Mar 14 - Darren1951:
Lynne57 - how long do you reckon before we're blessed with a visitation from you know who?

This is when the thread was hijacked by the idiot!

My first post was at 10.36pm Thur 13 Mar 14 - 4 hours and 6 minutes after the thread was hijacked! And lets see I actually stayed on the thread and wanted the idiot and you to stay on thread that night and only yesterday did I sideline from it

And yet you call for me to be banned when I stay on topic and you come on and give abuse, in various guises!!! PATHETIC!
BWFC "And yet you call for me to be banned when I stay on topic and you come on and give abuse, in various guises!!"

Other guises? Who? Certainly not me!

Sorry, can't hang around. Got lots of people to vilify on other thread, and in other newspapers.
[quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: 630pm Thur 13 Mar 14 - Darren1951: Lynne57 - how long do you reckon before we're blessed with a visitation from you know who? This is when the thread was hijacked by the idiot! My first post was at 10.36pm Thur 13 Mar 14 - 4 hours and 6 minutes after the thread was hijacked! And lets see I actually stayed on the thread and wanted the idiot and you to stay on thread that night and only yesterday did I sideline from it And yet you call for me to be banned when I stay on topic and you come on and give abuse, in various guises!!! PATHETIC![/p][/quote]BWFC "And yet you call for me to be banned when I stay on topic and you come on and give abuse, in various guises!!" Other guises? Who? Certainly not me! Sorry, can't hang around. Got lots of people to vilify on other thread, and in other newspapers. Darren1951
  • Score: -2

4:11pm Sun 16 Mar 14

BWFC71 says...

Darren1951 wrote:
BWFC71 wrote:
630pm Thur 13 Mar 14 - Darren1951:
Lynne57 - how long do you reckon before we're blessed with a visitation from you know who?

This is when the thread was hijacked by the idiot!

My first post was at 10.36pm Thur 13 Mar 14 - 4 hours and 6 minutes after the thread was hijacked! And lets see I actually stayed on the thread and wanted the idiot and you to stay on thread that night and only yesterday did I sideline from it

And yet you call for me to be banned when I stay on topic and you come on and give abuse, in various guises!!! PATHETIC!
BWFC "And yet you call for me to be banned when I stay on topic and you come on and give abuse, in various guises!!"

Other guises? Who? Certainly not me!

Sorry, can't hang around. Got lots of people to vilify on other thread, and in other newspapers.
Blimey you really do think that highly of yourself thinking that the post was aimed at you. It seems that you actually do not have any common sense - but I see you avoided to answer the question I did direct at you. Why is that? Therefore I will ask it again!
[quote][p][bold]Darren1951[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: 630pm Thur 13 Mar 14 - Darren1951: Lynne57 - how long do you reckon before we're blessed with a visitation from you know who? This is when the thread was hijacked by the idiot! My first post was at 10.36pm Thur 13 Mar 14 - 4 hours and 6 minutes after the thread was hijacked! And lets see I actually stayed on the thread and wanted the idiot and you to stay on thread that night and only yesterday did I sideline from it And yet you call for me to be banned when I stay on topic and you come on and give abuse, in various guises!!! PATHETIC![/p][/quote]BWFC "And yet you call for me to be banned when I stay on topic and you come on and give abuse, in various guises!!" Other guises? Who? Certainly not me! Sorry, can't hang around. Got lots of people to vilify on other thread, and in other newspapers.[/p][/quote]Blimey you really do think that highly of yourself thinking that the post was aimed at you. It seems that you actually do not have any common sense - but I see you avoided to answer the question I did direct at you. Why is that? Therefore I will ask it again! BWFC71
  • Score: -21

4:12pm Sun 16 Mar 14

BWFC71 says...

Darren1951 wrote:
BWFC71 - if you think I've been abusive so far, I haven't even started! Dyslexia? And a few other complaints from the sound of things. WIBBLE!
I hope you realise that you have actually opened yourself up to being banned by the editors as you have openly confessed that you will not give up giving abuse towards a fellow poster.

That is all that I required to report you, and you cannot delete the post!
[quote][p][bold]Darren1951[/bold] wrote: BWFC71 - if you think I've been abusive so far, I haven't even started! Dyslexia? And a few other complaints from the sound of things. WIBBLE![/p][/quote]I hope you realise that you have actually opened yourself up to being banned by the editors as you have openly confessed that you will not give up giving abuse towards a fellow poster. That is all that I required to report you, and you cannot delete the post! BWFC71
  • Score: -11

4:15pm Sun 16 Mar 14

Darren1951 says...

"towards a fellow poster."

You'll be calling yourself a taxi next!
"towards a fellow poster." You'll be calling yourself a taxi next! Darren1951
  • Score: -2

4:31pm Sun 16 Mar 14

BWFC71 says...

Wigan Trotter wrote:
No doubt the replacements will be more older units from other franchises down South due to them getting newer and more modern 4/5/6 coach Units.
Apologies Wigan Trotter but, yet again, Darren, George and a couple of others have hijacked this thread to abuse/cyber bully me!!!

If you want to get this thread back and have their posts removed, please report them to the editor using the report button.

I have.

Again sincere apologies for these cretins!

I do hope that the majority (i.e. 99%) of my posts on this thread have shown some insight as to what problems we do have and what forthcoming problems we are going to encounter and you are dead right in that we are getting the 25+ year old rolling stock from London whilst they are getting brand new rolling stock. And the new 4 coach trains that First TPE have got are actually the same size as their 3 coach diesel units but with even less seats!!!
[quote][p][bold]Wigan Trotter[/bold] wrote: No doubt the replacements will be more older units from other franchises down South due to them getting newer and more modern 4/5/6 coach Units.[/p][/quote]Apologies Wigan Trotter but, yet again, Darren, George and a couple of others have hijacked this thread to abuse/cyber bully me!!! If you want to get this thread back and have their posts removed, please report them to the editor using the report button. I have. Again sincere apologies for these cretins! I do hope that the majority (i.e. 99%) of my posts on this thread have shown some insight as to what problems we do have and what forthcoming problems we are going to encounter and you are dead right in that we are getting the 25+ year old rolling stock from London whilst they are getting brand new rolling stock. And the new 4 coach trains that First TPE have got are actually the same size as their 3 coach diesel units but with even less seats!!! BWFC71
  • Score: -1

4:38pm Sun 16 Mar 14

Darren1951 says...

"If you want to get this thread back and have their posts removed, please report them to the editor using the report button. I have."

Great! You can tall them that it was I who hijacked the Malayasian airliner whilst you're at it.
"If you want to get this thread back and have their posts removed, please report them to the editor using the report button. I have." Great! You can tall them that it was I who hijacked the Malayasian airliner whilst you're at it. Darren1951
  • Score: -1

4:58pm Sun 16 Mar 14

BWFC71 says...

Darren1951 wrote:
"If you want to get this thread back and have their posts removed, please report them to the editor using the report button. I have."

Great! You can tall them that it was I who hijacked the Malayasian airliner whilst you're at it.
Well at least I don't post sick jokes like you - that post has been reported because of the sick joke.

You wanted to be a serious poster, got hacked off because a thread you posted on got hijacked and now you are a pitiful sheep following a minority amount of users (3 in total who interchange usernames) and just give abuse. Where is your individuality and more importantly self-esteem?

Have you apologised to Lynn57 yet for using her name in vain to abuse a poster - I thought not, how pathetic!!

Again you have not answered my question, so yet again I ask, what have YOU gained from spoiling this thread and spoiling it for the casual reader?
[quote][p][bold]Darren1951[/bold] wrote: "If you want to get this thread back and have their posts removed, please report them to the editor using the report button. I have." Great! You can tall them that it was I who hijacked the Malayasian airliner whilst you're at it.[/p][/quote]Well at least I don't post sick jokes like you - that post has been reported because of the sick joke. You wanted to be a serious poster, got hacked off because a thread you posted on got hijacked and now you are a pitiful sheep following a minority amount of users (3 in total who interchange usernames) and just give abuse. Where is your individuality and more importantly self-esteem? Have you apologised to Lynn57 yet for using her name in vain to abuse a poster - I thought not, how pathetic!! Again you have not answered my question, so yet again I ask, what have YOU gained from spoiling this thread and spoiling it for the casual reader? BWFC71
  • Score: 1

4:58pm Sun 16 Mar 14

BWFC71 says...

Anyway Darren I thought you were going off to do other things, or was that a lie as well?
Anyway Darren I thought you were going off to do other things, or was that a lie as well? BWFC71
  • Score: 1

5:58pm Sun 16 Mar 14

George X says...

BWFC71 wrote:
Darren1951 wrote:
"If you want to get this thread back and have their posts removed, please report them to the editor using the report button. I have."

Great! You can tall them that it was I who hijacked the Malayasian airliner whilst you're at it.
Well at least I don't post sick jokes like you - that post has been reported because of the sick joke.

You wanted to be a serious poster, got hacked off because a thread you posted on got hijacked and now you are a pitiful sheep following a minority amount of users (3 in total who interchange usernames) and just give abuse. Where is your individuality and more importantly self-esteem?

Have you apologised to Lynn57 yet for using her name in vain to abuse a poster - I thought not, how pathetic!!

Again you have not answered my question, so yet again I ask, what have YOU gained from spoiling this thread and spoiling it for the casual reader?
How many usernames have you got then ? you have 5 i know of and probably have more. TherighteousOne , maplins Holiday camp, Big Ern, Eric Draven and another couple at least.
Not to mention the fact that another thread has been wrecked by you, for which you have been reported.
You did'nt post for a couple of days last week and everything was peaceful on here, if the editor has any sense he'll ban you once and for all !!
[quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Darren1951[/bold] wrote: "If you want to get this thread back and have their posts removed, please report them to the editor using the report button. I have." Great! You can tall them that it was I who hijacked the Malayasian airliner whilst you're at it.[/p][/quote]Well at least I don't post sick jokes like you - that post has been reported because of the sick joke. You wanted to be a serious poster, got hacked off because a thread you posted on got hijacked and now you are a pitiful sheep following a minority amount of users (3 in total who interchange usernames) and just give abuse. Where is your individuality and more importantly self-esteem? Have you apologised to Lynn57 yet for using her name in vain to abuse a poster - I thought not, how pathetic!! Again you have not answered my question, so yet again I ask, what have YOU gained from spoiling this thread and spoiling it for the casual reader?[/p][/quote]How many usernames have you got then ? you have 5 i know of and probably have more. TherighteousOne , maplins Holiday camp, Big Ern, Eric Draven and another couple at least. Not to mention the fact that another thread has been wrecked by you, for which you have been reported. You did'nt post for a couple of days last week and everything was peaceful on here, if the editor has any sense he'll ban you once and for all !! George X
  • Score: -1

9:16pm Sun 16 Mar 14

BWFC71 says...

George X wrote:
BWFC71 wrote:
Darren1951 wrote: "If you want to get this thread back and have their posts removed, please report them to the editor using the report button. I have." Great! You can tall them that it was I who hijacked the Malayasian airliner whilst you're at it.
Well at least I don't post sick jokes like you - that post has been reported because of the sick joke. You wanted to be a serious poster, got hacked off because a thread you posted on got hijacked and now you are a pitiful sheep following a minority amount of users (3 in total who interchange usernames) and just give abuse. Where is your individuality and more importantly self-esteem? Have you apologised to Lynn57 yet for using her name in vain to abuse a poster - I thought not, how pathetic!! Again you have not answered my question, so yet again I ask, what have YOU gained from spoiling this thread and spoiling it for the casual reader?
How many usernames have you got then ? you have 5 i know of and probably have more. TherighteousOne , maplins Holiday camp, Big Ern, Eric Draven and another couple at least. Not to mention the fact that another thread has been wrecked by you, for which you have been reported. You did'nt post for a couple of days last week and everything was peaceful on here, if the editor has any sense he'll ban you once and for all !!
You keep quoting all these usernames that I supposedly have and yet you have failed to prove that they are me.

As you know and as I keep repeating myself the only usernames I have are:

1. BWFC71 because it logs on via the facebook log-in and no password is required and only use that username on my home laptop, plus it automatically logs on when I turn on my laptop!

2. The Righteous One - which requires an email address and a password and only used when using works PC before work, during break and at lunchtime!!

I have no requirement for any other username and nor do I have any other usrname.

Unlike your George X or should I say Getajob, BWFCSMUM, Jackael and at least 5 others which you seem to use in rotation!!!!

Agaain I have to point out that it was actually Darren1951 that spoiled this thread by his post which was non-related:-

630pm Thur 13 Mar 14 - Darren1951:
Lynne57 - how long do you reckon before we're blessed with a visitation from you know who?

How can that be construed as thread related when there was no mentionof the topic within the post nd that was a good 4 hours and 6 minutes before my first post which was thread related and continued to be so up until yesterday when the casual reader had given up - even today at least a couple of my posts were thread related which you lambasted!!!!

Therefore you reporting me was very futile because I have proved it wasn't me. Even when you and Darren tried to take me off topic on that Thursday evening I didn't get sidelined an kept questioning you as to whether you supported my views on the topic or not and why not and each time you both replied with vulgar insults and not one bit on the topic in question. Therefore it is both YOUR and DARREN1951 that have spoiled this thread - at least Darren has the balls to admit what he did and will continue to do so, unlike you (and all your pseudonyms)!
[quote][p][bold]George X[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Darren1951[/bold] wrote: "If you want to get this thread back and have their posts removed, please report them to the editor using the report button. I have." Great! You can tall them that it was I who hijacked the Malayasian airliner whilst you're at it.[/p][/quote]Well at least I don't post sick jokes like you - that post has been reported because of the sick joke. You wanted to be a serious poster, got hacked off because a thread you posted on got hijacked and now you are a pitiful sheep following a minority amount of users (3 in total who interchange usernames) and just give abuse. Where is your individuality and more importantly self-esteem? Have you apologised to Lynn57 yet for using her name in vain to abuse a poster - I thought not, how pathetic!! Again you have not answered my question, so yet again I ask, what have YOU gained from spoiling this thread and spoiling it for the casual reader?[/p][/quote]How many usernames have you got then ? you have 5 i know of and probably have more. TherighteousOne , maplins Holiday camp, Big Ern, Eric Draven and another couple at least. Not to mention the fact that another thread has been wrecked by you, for which you have been reported. You did'nt post for a couple of days last week and everything was peaceful on here, if the editor has any sense he'll ban you once and for all !![/p][/quote]You keep quoting all these usernames that I supposedly have and yet you have failed to prove that they are me. As you know and as I keep repeating myself the only usernames I have are: 1. BWFC71 because it logs on via the facebook log-in and no password is required and only use that username on my home laptop, plus it automatically logs on when I turn on my laptop! 2. The Righteous One - which requires an email address and a password and only used when using works PC before work, during break and at lunchtime!! I have no requirement for any other username and nor do I have any other usrname. Unlike your George X or should I say Getajob, BWFCSMUM, Jackael and at least 5 others which you seem to use in rotation!!!! Agaain I have to point out that it was actually Darren1951 that spoiled this thread by his post which was non-related:- 630pm Thur 13 Mar 14 - Darren1951: Lynne57 - how long do you reckon before we're blessed with a visitation from you know who? How can that be construed as thread related when there was no mentionof the topic within the post nd that was a good 4 hours and 6 minutes before my first post which was thread related and continued to be so up until yesterday when the casual reader had given up - even today at least a couple of my posts were thread related which you lambasted!!!! Therefore you reporting me was very futile because I have proved it wasn't me. Even when you and Darren tried to take me off topic on that Thursday evening I didn't get sidelined an kept questioning you as to whether you supported my views on the topic or not and why not and each time you both replied with vulgar insults and not one bit on the topic in question. Therefore it is both YOUR and DARREN1951 that have spoiled this thread - at least Darren has the balls to admit what he did and will continue to do so, unlike you (and all your pseudonyms)! BWFC71
  • Score: 1

9:19pm Sun 16 Mar 14

BWFC71 says...

Oh and before you mention the thumbs, George X/getajob/boltonchap
/bwfcsmum here is a very peculiar statistic!

Where ever you appear on the same topic as me I get thumbs in the radius of -50's, -60's, -70's and yet in the threads where you do not appear I get thumbs up in more or less every post.

Now why is that? Even Julian finds that very peculiar as well!
Oh and before you mention the thumbs, George X/getajob/boltonchap /bwfcsmum here is a very peculiar statistic! Where ever you appear on the same topic as me I get thumbs in the radius of -50's, -60's, -70's and yet in the threads where you do not appear I get thumbs up in more or less every post. Now why is that? Even Julian finds that very peculiar as well! BWFC71
  • Score: 1

9:25pm Sun 16 Mar 14

Darren1951 says...

Did someone call, or was it just a toilet being flushed?
Did someone call, or was it just a toilet being flushed? Darren1951
  • Score: -1

10:08pm Sun 16 Mar 14

bwfcsmum says...

BWFC71 wrote:
George X wrote:
BWFC71 wrote:
Darren1951 wrote: "If you want to get this thread back and have their posts removed, please report them to the editor using the report button. I have." Great! You can tall them that it was I who hijacked the Malayasian airliner whilst you're at it.
Well at least I don't post sick jokes like you - that post has been reported because of the sick joke. You wanted to be a serious poster, got hacked off because a thread you posted on got hijacked and now you are a pitiful sheep following a minority amount of users (3 in total who interchange usernames) and just give abuse. Where is your individuality and more importantly self-esteem? Have you apologised to Lynn57 yet for using her name in vain to abuse a poster - I thought not, how pathetic!! Again you have not answered my question, so yet again I ask, what have YOU gained from spoiling this thread and spoiling it for the casual reader?
How many usernames have you got then ? you have 5 i know of and probably have more. TherighteousOne , maplins Holiday camp, Big Ern, Eric Draven and another couple at least. Not to mention the fact that another thread has been wrecked by you, for which you have been reported. You did'nt post for a couple of days last week and everything was peaceful on here, if the editor has any sense he'll ban you once and for all !!
You keep quoting all these usernames that I supposedly have and yet you have failed to prove that they are me.

As you know and as I keep repeating myself the only usernames I have are:

1. BWFC71 because it logs on via the facebook log-in and no password is required and only use that username on my home laptop, plus it automatically logs on when I turn on my laptop!

2. The Righteous One - which requires an email address and a password and only used when using works PC before work, during break and at lunchtime!!

I have no requirement for any other username and nor do I have any other usrname.

Unlike your George X or should I say Getajob, BWFCSMUM, Jackael and at least 5 others which you seem to use in rotation!!!!

Agaain I have to point out that it was actually Darren1951 that spoiled this thread by his post which was non-related:-

630pm Thur 13 Mar 14 - Darren1951:
Lynne57 - how long do you reckon before we're blessed with a visitation from you know who?

How can that be construed as thread related when there was no mentionof the topic within the post nd that was a good 4 hours and 6 minutes before my first post which was thread related and continued to be so up until yesterday when the casual reader had given up - even today at least a couple of my posts were thread related which you lambasted!!!!

Therefore you reporting me was very futile because I have proved it wasn't me. Even when you and Darren tried to take me off topic on that Thursday evening I didn't get sidelined an kept questioning you as to whether you supported my views on the topic or not and why not and each time you both replied with vulgar insults and not one bit on the topic in question. Therefore it is both YOUR and DARREN1951 that have spoiled this thread - at least Darren has the balls to admit what he did and will continue to do so, unlike you (and all your pseudonyms)!
you could always just log out of facebook then and use 1 username and log in manually............
.. it takes about 6 seconds

its hardly rocket science is it

but then again your prob a rocket scientist ( in your head )
[quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]George X[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Darren1951[/bold] wrote: "If you want to get this thread back and have their posts removed, please report them to the editor using the report button. I have." Great! You can tall them that it was I who hijacked the Malayasian airliner whilst you're at it.[/p][/quote]Well at least I don't post sick jokes like you - that post has been reported because of the sick joke. You wanted to be a serious poster, got hacked off because a thread you posted on got hijacked and now you are a pitiful sheep following a minority amount of users (3 in total who interchange usernames) and just give abuse. Where is your individuality and more importantly self-esteem? Have you apologised to Lynn57 yet for using her name in vain to abuse a poster - I thought not, how pathetic!! Again you have not answered my question, so yet again I ask, what have YOU gained from spoiling this thread and spoiling it for the casual reader?[/p][/quote]How many usernames have you got then ? you have 5 i know of and probably have more. TherighteousOne , maplins Holiday camp, Big Ern, Eric Draven and another couple at least. Not to mention the fact that another thread has been wrecked by you, for which you have been reported. You did'nt post for a couple of days last week and everything was peaceful on here, if the editor has any sense he'll ban you once and for all !![/p][/quote]You keep quoting all these usernames that I supposedly have and yet you have failed to prove that they are me. As you know and as I keep repeating myself the only usernames I have are: 1. BWFC71 because it logs on via the facebook log-in and no password is required and only use that username on my home laptop, plus it automatically logs on when I turn on my laptop! 2. The Righteous One - which requires an email address and a password and only used when using works PC before work, during break and at lunchtime!! I have no requirement for any other username and nor do I have any other usrname. Unlike your George X or should I say Getajob, BWFCSMUM, Jackael and at least 5 others which you seem to use in rotation!!!! Agaain I have to point out that it was actually Darren1951 that spoiled this thread by his post which was non-related:- 630pm Thur 13 Mar 14 - Darren1951: Lynne57 - how long do you reckon before we're blessed with a visitation from you know who? How can that be construed as thread related when there was no mentionof the topic within the post nd that was a good 4 hours and 6 minutes before my first post which was thread related and continued to be so up until yesterday when the casual reader had given up - even today at least a couple of my posts were thread related which you lambasted!!!! Therefore you reporting me was very futile because I have proved it wasn't me. Even when you and Darren tried to take me off topic on that Thursday evening I didn't get sidelined an kept questioning you as to whether you supported my views on the topic or not and why not and each time you both replied with vulgar insults and not one bit on the topic in question. Therefore it is both YOUR and DARREN1951 that have spoiled this thread - at least Darren has the balls to admit what he did and will continue to do so, unlike you (and all your pseudonyms)![/p][/quote]you could always just log out of facebook then and use 1 username and log in manually............ .. it takes about 6 seconds its hardly rocket science is it but then again your prob a rocket scientist ( in your head ) bwfcsmum
  • Score: 1

10:13pm Sun 16 Mar 14

BWFC71 says...

bwfcsmum wrote:
BWFC71 wrote:
George X wrote:
BWFC71 wrote:
Darren1951 wrote: "If you want to get this thread back and have their posts removed, please report them to the editor using the report button. I have." Great! You can tall them that it was I who hijacked the Malayasian airliner whilst you're at it.
Well at least I don't post sick jokes like you - that post has been reported because of the sick joke. You wanted to be a serious poster, got hacked off because a thread you posted on got hijacked and now you are a pitiful sheep following a minority amount of users (3 in total who interchange usernames) and just give abuse. Where is your individuality and more importantly self-esteem? Have you apologised to Lynn57 yet for using her name in vain to abuse a poster - I thought not, how pathetic!! Again you have not answered my question, so yet again I ask, what have YOU gained from spoiling this thread and spoiling it for the casual reader?
How many usernames have you got then ? you have 5 i know of and probably have more. TherighteousOne , maplins Holiday camp, Big Ern, Eric Draven and another couple at least. Not to mention the fact that another thread has been wrecked by you, for which you have been reported. You did'nt post for a couple of days last week and everything was peaceful on here, if the editor has any sense he'll ban you once and for all !!
You keep quoting all these usernames that I supposedly have and yet you have failed to prove that they are me. As you know and as I keep repeating myself the only usernames I have are: 1. BWFC71 because it logs on via the facebook log-in and no password is required and only use that username on my home laptop, plus it automatically logs on when I turn on my laptop! 2. The Righteous One - which requires an email address and a password and only used when using works PC before work, during break and at lunchtime!! I have no requirement for any other username and nor do I have any other usrname. Unlike your George X or should I say Getajob, BWFCSMUM, Jackael and at least 5 others which you seem to use in rotation!!!! Agaain I have to point out that it was actually Darren1951 that spoiled this thread by his post which was non-related:- 630pm Thur 13 Mar 14 - Darren1951: Lynne57 - how long do you reckon before we're blessed with a visitation from you know who? How can that be construed as thread related when there was no mentionof the topic within the post nd that was a good 4 hours and 6 minutes before my first post which was thread related and continued to be so up until yesterday when the casual reader had given up - even today at least a couple of my posts were thread related which you lambasted!!!! Therefore you reporting me was very futile because I have proved it wasn't me. Even when you and Darren tried to take me off topic on that Thursday evening I didn't get sidelined an kept questioning you as to whether you supported my views on the topic or not and why not and each time you both replied with vulgar insults and not one bit on the topic in question. Therefore it is both YOUR and DARREN1951 that have spoiled this thread - at least Darren has the balls to admit what he did and will continue to do so, unlike you (and all your pseudonyms)!
you could always just log out of facebook then and use 1 username and log in manually............ .. it takes about 6 seconds its hardly rocket science is it but then again your prob a rocket scientist ( in your head )
Why have you forgotten to change your username back to George X, as it was George that was asking!!!!!!

And anyway, why should I?

I have had BWC71 for over 7 years!

The Righteous One only came about because I cannot log onto the BN using FB because FB has been blocked by "Websense" at work.

And as I say BWFC71 is NOT email/password activated!!!!

Anyway why do you have over 7 usernames? Can you not cope with just one or is it to back yourself up because you know you have very little followers!
[quote][p][bold]bwfcsmum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]George X[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Darren1951[/bold] wrote: "If you want to get this thread back and have their posts removed, please report them to the editor using the report button. I have." Great! You can tall them that it was I who hijacked the Malayasian airliner whilst you're at it.[/p][/quote]Well at least I don't post sick jokes like you - that post has been reported because of the sick joke. You wanted to be a serious poster, got hacked off because a thread you posted on got hijacked and now you are a pitiful sheep following a minority amount of users (3 in total who interchange usernames) and just give abuse. Where is your individuality and more importantly self-esteem? Have you apologised to Lynn57 yet for using her name in vain to abuse a poster - I thought not, how pathetic!! Again you have not answered my question, so yet again I ask, what have YOU gained from spoiling this thread and spoiling it for the casual reader?[/p][/quote]How many usernames have you got then ? you have 5 i know of and probably have more. TherighteousOne , maplins Holiday camp, Big Ern, Eric Draven and another couple at least. Not to mention the fact that another thread has been wrecked by you, for which you have been reported. You did'nt post for a couple of days last week and everything was peaceful on here, if the editor has any sense he'll ban you once and for all !![/p][/quote]You keep quoting all these usernames that I supposedly have and yet you have failed to prove that they are me. As you know and as I keep repeating myself the only usernames I have are: 1. BWFC71 because it logs on via the facebook log-in and no password is required and only use that username on my home laptop, plus it automatically logs on when I turn on my laptop! 2. The Righteous One - which requires an email address and a password and only used when using works PC before work, during break and at lunchtime!! I have no requirement for any other username and nor do I have any other usrname. Unlike your George X or should I say Getajob, BWFCSMUM, Jackael and at least 5 others which you seem to use in rotation!!!! Agaain I have to point out that it was actually Darren1951 that spoiled this thread by his post which was non-related:- 630pm Thur 13 Mar 14 - Darren1951: Lynne57 - how long do you reckon before we're blessed with a visitation from you know who? How can that be construed as thread related when there was no mentionof the topic within the post nd that was a good 4 hours and 6 minutes before my first post which was thread related and continued to be so up until yesterday when the casual reader had given up - even today at least a couple of my posts were thread related which you lambasted!!!! Therefore you reporting me was very futile because I have proved it wasn't me. Even when you and Darren tried to take me off topic on that Thursday evening I didn't get sidelined an kept questioning you as to whether you supported my views on the topic or not and why not and each time you both replied with vulgar insults and not one bit on the topic in question. Therefore it is both YOUR and DARREN1951 that have spoiled this thread - at least Darren has the balls to admit what he did and will continue to do so, unlike you (and all your pseudonyms)![/p][/quote]you could always just log out of facebook then and use 1 username and log in manually............ .. it takes about 6 seconds its hardly rocket science is it but then again your prob a rocket scientist ( in your head )[/p][/quote]Why have you forgotten to change your username back to George X, as it was George that was asking!!!!!! And anyway, why should I? I have had BWC71 for over 7 years! The Righteous One only came about because I cannot log onto the BN using FB because FB has been blocked by "Websense" at work. And as I say BWFC71 is NOT email/password activated!!!! Anyway why do you have over 7 usernames? Can you not cope with just one or is it to back yourself up because you know you have very little followers! BWFC71
  • Score: -28

10:14pm Sun 16 Mar 14

BWFC71 says...

Dear Ian


I am sick to death of being hounded and abused by the cyber-bullies that appear on your comments section and yet you are doing NOTHNG to stop them. Thing is it is not just me they are abusing but because they also think some of the other posters are me they are abusing them as well!!!


The usual cyber-bullies are:-

George X

BWFCSMUM

Getajob

Jackael

and a new one appeared today which is Bazzerd


No matter what I post they go off topic and start abusing me in any possible way - I have reported it numerous times and now I am more than fed up about it and sick to death of trying to stay on topic with these posters around as it is impossible. They spoil the threads in every possible way.


If they are not banned by the end of Monday then I will be complaining again and will be wanting to take this further and as far as possible, because the bullying that is taking place iss gone beyond a joke and has become very personal against posters.


The best solutions would be

a) comments are shut down like they were for an 18 month period a few years ago - although that would be spoiling it for the better posters who are currently frightened of posting because of the above named posters!


b) these posters are banned via their IP address and a more scrutiny of what is happening with the comments and possibility of a full time moderator as thee comments have got out of control!


c) complete removal of the thumbs because they are being abused and technology is being used somewhere down the line to create the reactions with the thumbs (such as -52 thumbs in less than 2 minutes on some of my posts!!!)


Yours faithfully


This is what has been sent to Ian Savage to his email to deal with these cyberbullies/trolls
Dear Ian I am sick to death of being hounded and abused by the cyber-bullies that appear on your comments section and yet you are doing NOTHNG to stop them. Thing is it is not just me they are abusing but because they also think some of the other posters are me they are abusing them as well!!! The usual cyber-bullies are:- George X BWFCSMUM Getajob Jackael and a new one appeared today which is Bazzerd No matter what I post they go off topic and start abusing me in any possible way - I have reported it numerous times and now I am more than fed up about it and sick to death of trying to stay on topic with these posters around as it is impossible. They spoil the threads in every possible way. If they are not banned by the end of Monday then I will be complaining again and will be wanting to take this further and as far as possible, because the bullying that is taking place iss gone beyond a joke and has become very personal against posters. The best solutions would be a) comments are shut down like they were for an 18 month period a few years ago - although that would be spoiling it for the better posters who are currently frightened of posting because of the above named posters! b) these posters are banned via their IP address and a more scrutiny of what is happening with the comments and possibility of a full time moderator as thee comments have got out of control! c) complete removal of the thumbs because they are being abused and technology is being used somewhere down the line to create the reactions with the thumbs (such as -52 thumbs in less than 2 minutes on some of my posts!!!) Yours faithfully This is what has been sent to Ian Savage to his email to deal with these cyberbullies/trolls BWFC71
  • Score: -31

10:22pm Sun 16 Mar 14

Darren1951 says...

"The usual cyber-bullies are:-, George X, BWFCSMUM, Getajob, Jackael, and a new one appeared today which is Bazzerd"

You've missed me of the list - I really am most deeply offended!
"The usual cyber-bullies are:-, George X, BWFCSMUM, Getajob, Jackael, and a new one appeared today which is Bazzerd" You've missed me of the list - I really am most deeply offended! Darren1951
  • Score: 0

11:01pm Sun 16 Mar 14

bwfcsmum says...

BWFC71 wrote:
bwfcsmum wrote:
BWFC71 wrote:
George X wrote:
BWFC71 wrote:
Darren1951 wrote: "If you want to get this thread back and have their posts removed, please report them to the editor using the report button. I have." Great! You can tall them that it was I who hijacked the Malayasian airliner whilst you're at it.
Well at least I don't post sick jokes like you - that post has been reported because of the sick joke. You wanted to be a serious poster, got hacked off because a thread you posted on got hijacked and now you are a pitiful sheep following a minority amount of users (3 in total who interchange usernames) and just give abuse. Where is your individuality and more importantly self-esteem? Have you apologised to Lynn57 yet for using her name in vain to abuse a poster - I thought not, how pathetic!! Again you have not answered my question, so yet again I ask, what have YOU gained from spoiling this thread and spoiling it for the casual reader?
How many usernames have you got then ? you have 5 i know of and probably have more. TherighteousOne , maplins Holiday camp, Big Ern, Eric Draven and another couple at least. Not to mention the fact that another thread has been wrecked by you, for which you have been reported. You did'nt post for a couple of days last week and everything was peaceful on here, if the editor has any sense he'll ban you once and for all !!
You keep quoting all these usernames that I supposedly have and yet you have failed to prove that they are me. As you know and as I keep repeating myself the only usernames I have are: 1. BWFC71 because it logs on via the facebook log-in and no password is required and only use that username on my home laptop, plus it automatically logs on when I turn on my laptop! 2. The Righteous One - which requires an email address and a password and only used when using works PC before work, during break and at lunchtime!! I have no requirement for any other username and nor do I have any other usrname. Unlike your George X or should I say Getajob, BWFCSMUM, Jackael and at least 5 others which you seem to use in rotation!!!! Agaain I have to point out that it was actually Darren1951 that spoiled this thread by his post which was non-related:- 630pm Thur 13 Mar 14 - Darren1951: Lynne57 - how long do you reckon before we're blessed with a visitation from you know who? How can that be construed as thread related when there was no mentionof the topic within the post nd that was a good 4 hours and 6 minutes before my first post which was thread related and continued to be so up until yesterday when the casual reader had given up - even today at least a couple of my posts were thread related which you lambasted!!!! Therefore you reporting me was very futile because I have proved it wasn't me. Even when you and Darren tried to take me off topic on that Thursday evening I didn't get sidelined an kept questioning you as to whether you supported my views on the topic or not and why not and each time you both replied with vulgar insults and not one bit on the topic in question. Therefore it is both YOUR and DARREN1951 that have spoiled this thread - at least Darren has the balls to admit what he did and will continue to do so, unlike you (and all your pseudonyms)!
you could always just log out of facebook then and use 1 username and log in manually............ .. it takes about 6 seconds its hardly rocket science is it but then again your prob a rocket scientist ( in your head )
Why have you forgotten to change your username back to George X, as it was George that was asking!!!!!!

And anyway, why should I?

I have had BWC71 for over 7 years!

The Righteous One only came about because I cannot log onto the BN using FB because FB has been blocked by "Websense" at work.

And as I say BWFC71 is NOT email/password activated!!!!

Anyway why do you have over 7 usernames? Can you not cope with just one or is it to back yourself up because you know you have very little followers!
prob best spend your time at work working then eh

maybe that way you will get a job where you are allowed access to a computer without parental settings installed on it
[quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bwfcsmum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]George X[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Darren1951[/bold] wrote: "If you want to get this thread back and have their posts removed, please report them to the editor using the report button. I have." Great! You can tall them that it was I who hijacked the Malayasian airliner whilst you're at it.[/p][/quote]Well at least I don't post sick jokes like you - that post has been reported because of the sick joke. You wanted to be a serious poster, got hacked off because a thread you posted on got hijacked and now you are a pitiful sheep following a minority amount of users (3 in total who interchange usernames) and just give abuse. Where is your individuality and more importantly self-esteem? Have you apologised to Lynn57 yet for using her name in vain to abuse a poster - I thought not, how pathetic!! Again you have not answered my question, so yet again I ask, what have YOU gained from spoiling this thread and spoiling it for the casual reader?[/p][/quote]How many usernames have you got then ? you have 5 i know of and probably have more. TherighteousOne , maplins Holiday camp, Big Ern, Eric Draven and another couple at least. Not to mention the fact that another thread has been wrecked by you, for which you have been reported. You did'nt post for a couple of days last week and everything was peaceful on here, if the editor has any sense he'll ban you once and for all !![/p][/quote]You keep quoting all these usernames that I supposedly have and yet you have failed to prove that they are me. As you know and as I keep repeating myself the only usernames I have are: 1. BWFC71 because it logs on via the facebook log-in and no password is required and only use that username on my home laptop, plus it automatically logs on when I turn on my laptop! 2. The Righteous One - which requires an email address and a password and only used when using works PC before work, during break and at lunchtime!! I have no requirement for any other username and nor do I have any other usrname. Unlike your George X or should I say Getajob, BWFCSMUM, Jackael and at least 5 others which you seem to use in rotation!!!! Agaain I have to point out that it was actually Darren1951 that spoiled this thread by his post which was non-related:- 630pm Thur 13 Mar 14 - Darren1951: Lynne57 - how long do you reckon before we're blessed with a visitation from you know who? How can that be construed as thread related when there was no mentionof the topic within the post nd that was a good 4 hours and 6 minutes before my first post which was thread related and continued to be so up until yesterday when the casual reader had given up - even today at least a couple of my posts were thread related which you lambasted!!!! Therefore you reporting me was very futile because I have proved it wasn't me. Even when you and Darren tried to take me off topic on that Thursday evening I didn't get sidelined an kept questioning you as to whether you supported my views on the topic or not and why not and each time you both replied with vulgar insults and not one bit on the topic in question. Therefore it is both YOUR and DARREN1951 that have spoiled this thread - at least Darren has the balls to admit what he did and will continue to do so, unlike you (and all your pseudonyms)![/p][/quote]you could always just log out of facebook then and use 1 username and log in manually............ .. it takes about 6 seconds its hardly rocket science is it but then again your prob a rocket scientist ( in your head )[/p][/quote]Why have you forgotten to change your username back to George X, as it was George that was asking!!!!!! And anyway, why should I? I have had BWC71 for over 7 years! The Righteous One only came about because I cannot log onto the BN using FB because FB has been blocked by "Websense" at work. And as I say BWFC71 is NOT email/password activated!!!! Anyway why do you have over 7 usernames? Can you not cope with just one or is it to back yourself up because you know you have very little followers![/p][/quote]prob best spend your time at work working then eh maybe that way you will get a job where you are allowed access to a computer without parental settings installed on it bwfcsmum
  • Score: 0

11:03pm Sun 16 Mar 14

bwfcsmum says...

just imagine that

a working computer............
. with internet access........... for an adult

it says a lot that you are in the kind of a job where you are not trusted with internet access during working hours

a very lot
just imagine that a working computer............ . with internet access........... for an adult it says a lot that you are in the kind of a job where you are not trusted with internet access during working hours a very lot bwfcsmum
  • Score: -1

8:32am Mon 17 Mar 14

BWFC71 says...

bwfcsmum wrote:
just imagine that a working computer............ . with internet access........... for an adult it says a lot that you are in the kind of a job where you are not trusted with internet access during working hours a very lot
Do you sit in your little bedsit and note down every little thing I type on here and on which threads I comment on because you are following me onto every thread, not posting about the news and just posting vile, and I mean very vile, abuse aimed at me only.

Is that the sign of a sane person? Or is that the sign of an obsessive with stalking tendencies which could possibly lead to more dangerous vile things. In fact you are a creep and a dangerous creep and I am now beginning to fear for my own safety whilst you are still around!!!

Is this a case that I may need the protection of the police from you, because it certainly is heading in that direction?

Yes I am now actually frightend of you - well done!
[quote][p][bold]bwfcsmum[/bold] wrote: just imagine that a working computer............ . with internet access........... for an adult it says a lot that you are in the kind of a job where you are not trusted with internet access during working hours a very lot[/p][/quote]Do you sit in your little bedsit and note down every little thing I type on here and on which threads I comment on because you are following me onto every thread, not posting about the news and just posting vile, and I mean very vile, abuse aimed at me only. Is that the sign of a sane person? Or is that the sign of an obsessive with stalking tendencies which could possibly lead to more dangerous vile things. In fact you are a creep and a dangerous creep and I am now beginning to fear for my own safety whilst you are still around!!! Is this a case that I may need the protection of the police from you, because it certainly is heading in that direction? Yes I am now actually frightend of you - well done! BWFC71
  • Score: -11

8:40am Mon 17 Mar 14

BWFC71 says...

Darren1951 wrote:
"The usual cyber-bullies are:-, George X, BWFCSMUM, Getajob, Jackael, and a new one appeared today which is Bazzerd" You've missed me of the list - I really am most deeply offended!
No you are just a sheep and expecting to be allowed to join their bullying clique if you follow that persons ay, just so that you can protect yourself, and possibly your family.

If you had not noticed they have taken a more sinister stand now and I am now frightened not only for my own life but my families as this person is no threatening my life!!! It is now proved that they are stalking me and noting everything I post and every thread I go on. Which is just creepy and very sinister!

Are you really sure that you want to be associated with that sort of activity?
[quote][p][bold]Darren1951[/bold] wrote: "The usual cyber-bullies are:-, George X, BWFCSMUM, Getajob, Jackael, and a new one appeared today which is Bazzerd" You've missed me of the list - I really am most deeply offended![/p][/quote]No you are just a sheep and expecting to be allowed to join their bullying clique if you follow that persons ay, just so that you can protect yourself, and possibly your family. If you had not noticed they have taken a more sinister stand now and I am now frightened not only for my own life but my families as this person is no threatening my life!!! It is now proved that they are stalking me and noting everything I post and every thread I go on. Which is just creepy and very sinister! Are you really sure that you want to be associated with that sort of activity? BWFC71
  • Score: -32

9:25am Mon 17 Mar 14

Darren1951 says...

BWFC71 wrote:
Darren1951 wrote:
"The usual cyber-bullies are:-, George X, BWFCSMUM, Getajob, Jackael, and a new one appeared today which is Bazzerd" You've missed me of the list - I really am most deeply offended!
No you are just a sheep and expecting to be allowed to join their bullying clique if you follow that persons ay, just so that you can protect yourself, and possibly your family.

If you had not noticed they have taken a more sinister stand now and I am now frightened not only for my own life but my families as this person is no threatening my life!!! It is now proved that they are stalking me and noting everything I post and every thread I go on. Which is just creepy and very sinister!

Are you really sure that you want to be associated with that sort of activity?
BAAAA.........WIBBLE
[quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Darren1951[/bold] wrote: "The usual cyber-bullies are:-, George X, BWFCSMUM, Getajob, Jackael, and a new one appeared today which is Bazzerd" You've missed me of the list - I really am most deeply offended![/p][/quote]No you are just a sheep and expecting to be allowed to join their bullying clique if you follow that persons ay, just so that you can protect yourself, and possibly your family. If you had not noticed they have taken a more sinister stand now and I am now frightened not only for my own life but my families as this person is no threatening my life!!! It is now proved that they are stalking me and noting everything I post and every thread I go on. Which is just creepy and very sinister! Are you really sure that you want to be associated with that sort of activity?[/p][/quote]BAAAA.........WIBBLE Darren1951
  • Score: -1

7:44pm Mon 17 Mar 14

BWFC71 says...

Darren1951 wrote:
BWFC71 wrote:
Darren1951 wrote: "The usual cyber-bullies are:-, George X, BWFCSMUM, Getajob, Jackael, and a new one appeared today which is Bazzerd" You've missed me of the list - I really am most deeply offended!
No you are just a sheep and expecting to be allowed to join their bullying clique if you follow that persons ay, just so that you can protect yourself, and possibly your family. If you had not noticed they have taken a more sinister stand now and I am now frightened not only for my own life but my families as this person is no threatening my life!!! It is now proved that they are stalking me and noting everything I post and every thread I go on. Which is just creepy and very sinister! Are you really sure that you want to be associated with that sort of activity?
BAAAA.........WIBBLE
I didn't realise you were a sheep, but there again you go with the people that make you think you are safe from being picked on - i.e. a weakling!

And still quoting from Blackadder - yet again it is a misquote.

Shame you had promise to be a good poster and effectively you are just pathetic - even using Lynne57 to your own gains - have you apologised to her yet? (I bet you haven't like the coward you are)
[quote][p][bold]Darren1951[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Darren1951[/bold] wrote: "The usual cyber-bullies are:-, George X, BWFCSMUM, Getajob, Jackael, and a new one appeared today which is Bazzerd" You've missed me of the list - I really am most deeply offended![/p][/quote]No you are just a sheep and expecting to be allowed to join their bullying clique if you follow that persons ay, just so that you can protect yourself, and possibly your family. If you had not noticed they have taken a more sinister stand now and I am now frightened not only for my own life but my families as this person is no threatening my life!!! It is now proved that they are stalking me and noting everything I post and every thread I go on. Which is just creepy and very sinister! Are you really sure that you want to be associated with that sort of activity?[/p][/quote]BAAAA.........WIBBLE[/p][/quote]I didn't realise you were a sheep, but there again you go with the people that make you think you are safe from being picked on - i.e. a weakling! And still quoting from Blackadder - yet again it is a misquote. Shame you had promise to be a good poster and effectively you are just pathetic - even using Lynne57 to your own gains - have you apologised to her yet? (I bet you haven't like the coward you are) BWFC71
  • Score: -29

8:28pm Mon 17 Mar 14

bwfcsmum says...

wow

afraid for your life from the comments section hahahahahahahahahaha
ha

you are really mentally unwell arent you ???

when people type on here it doesnt mean they are stalking you

please go to the police, it will give them such a good laugh and cheer them up for the day

lets be honest...........

i dont care about you like the rest of the world, you are a joke

i dont care about your sad little life one bit you creepy wierdo

you are pathetic and attention seeking yet again like a 4 year old child who has had his toys taken off him

grow up, get some help for the obvious huge mental health problem and sort your sad life out
wow afraid for your life from the comments section hahahahahahahahahaha ha you are really mentally unwell arent you ??? when people type on here it doesnt mean they are stalking you please go to the police, it will give them such a good laugh and cheer them up for the day lets be honest........... i dont care about you like the rest of the world, you are a joke i dont care about your sad little life one bit you creepy wierdo you are pathetic and attention seeking yet again like a 4 year old child who has had his toys taken off him grow up, get some help for the obvious huge mental health problem and sort your sad life out bwfcsmum
  • Score: 0

8:36pm Mon 17 Mar 14

bwfcsmum says...

BWFC71 wrote:
Darren1951 wrote:
"The usual cyber-bullies are:-, George X, BWFCSMUM, Getajob, Jackael, and a new one appeared today which is Bazzerd" You've missed me of the list - I really am most deeply offended!
No you are just a sheep and expecting to be allowed to join their bullying clique if you follow that persons ay, just so that you can protect yourself, and possibly your family.

If you had not noticed they have taken a more sinister stand now and I am now frightened not only for my own life but my families as this person is no threatening my life!!! It is now proved that they are stalking me and noting everything I post and every thread I go on. Which is just creepy and very sinister!

Are you really sure that you want to be associated with that sort of activity?
have you been drinking or doing crack again ?????

threatening your life ????

seriously your completely and utterly mentally unstable.......... you are a wierdo............ and a fantasist

please tell us all where your life was threatened..........
. oh hang on you made it up yet again

yawn

yawn

yawn

you are a child ( or have the mental age of one )
[quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Darren1951[/bold] wrote: "The usual cyber-bullies are:-, George X, BWFCSMUM, Getajob, Jackael, and a new one appeared today which is Bazzerd" You've missed me of the list - I really am most deeply offended![/p][/quote]No you are just a sheep and expecting to be allowed to join their bullying clique if you follow that persons ay, just so that you can protect yourself, and possibly your family. If you had not noticed they have taken a more sinister stand now and I am now frightened not only for my own life but my families as this person is no threatening my life!!! It is now proved that they are stalking me and noting everything I post and every thread I go on. Which is just creepy and very sinister! Are you really sure that you want to be associated with that sort of activity?[/p][/quote]have you been drinking or doing crack again ????? threatening your life ???? seriously your completely and utterly mentally unstable.......... you are a wierdo............ and a fantasist please tell us all where your life was threatened.......... . oh hang on you made it up yet again yawn yawn yawn you are a child ( or have the mental age of one ) bwfcsmum
  • Score: 1

9:17pm Mon 17 Mar 14

BWFC71 says...

bwfcsmum wrote:
BWFC71 wrote:
Darren1951 wrote: "The usual cyber-bullies are:-, George X, BWFCSMUM, Getajob, Jackael, and a new one appeared today which is Bazzerd" You've missed me of the list - I really am most deeply offended!
No you are just a sheep and expecting to be allowed to join their bullying clique if you follow that persons ay, just so that you can protect yourself, and possibly your family. If you had not noticed they have taken a more sinister stand now and I am now frightened not only for my own life but my families as this person is no threatening my life!!! It is now proved that they are stalking me and noting everything I post and every thread I go on. Which is just creepy and very sinister! Are you really sure that you want to be associated with that sort of activity?
have you been drinking or doing crack again ????? threatening your life ???? seriously your completely and utterly mentally unstable.......... you are a wierdo............ and a fantasist please tell us all where your life was threatened.......... . oh hang on you made it up yet again yawn yawn yawn you are a child ( or have the mental age of one )
I have reported every single of your posts to Ian Savage and he is personally investigating the claims. Also sent them to the newspaper regulator and the PCC and just now advising the police. You have entered the realm of criminal activity with the cyber bullying - you have never posted anything else but abuse towards me since you registered - that is classed as cyber bullying and actual stalking (according to the word of the law)

You have been warned!


WHY DO YOU NEVER POST ANY COMMENTS OF THE NEWS OF THE THREADS YOU POST ON?

ARE YOU SOLELY HERE TO CYBER-BULLY ME?
[quote][p][bold]bwfcsmum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Darren1951[/bold] wrote: "The usual cyber-bullies are:-, George X, BWFCSMUM, Getajob, Jackael, and a new one appeared today which is Bazzerd" You've missed me of the list - I really am most deeply offended![/p][/quote]No you are just a sheep and expecting to be allowed to join their bullying clique if you follow that persons ay, just so that you can protect yourself, and possibly your family. If you had not noticed they have taken a more sinister stand now and I am now frightened not only for my own life but my families as this person is no threatening my life!!! It is now proved that they are stalking me and noting everything I post and every thread I go on. Which is just creepy and very sinister! Are you really sure that you want to be associated with that sort of activity?[/p][/quote]have you been drinking or doing crack again ????? threatening your life ???? seriously your completely and utterly mentally unstable.......... you are a wierdo............ and a fantasist please tell us all where your life was threatened.......... . oh hang on you made it up yet again yawn yawn yawn you are a child ( or have the mental age of one )[/p][/quote]I have reported every single of your posts to Ian Savage and he is personally investigating the claims. Also sent them to the newspaper regulator and the PCC and just now advising the police. You have entered the realm of criminal activity with the cyber bullying - you have never posted anything else but abuse towards me since you registered - that is classed as cyber bullying and actual stalking (according to the word of the law) You have been warned! WHY DO YOU NEVER POST ANY COMMENTS OF THE NEWS OF THE THREADS YOU POST ON? ARE YOU SOLELY HERE TO CYBER-BULLY ME? BWFC71
  • Score: -37

9:33pm Mon 17 Mar 14

BWFC71 says...

bwfcsmum wrote:
BWFC71 wrote:
Darren1951 wrote: "The usual cyber-bullies are:-, George X, BWFCSMUM, Getajob, Jackael, and a new one appeared today which is Bazzerd" You've missed me of the list - I really am most deeply offended!
No you are just a sheep and expecting to be allowed to join their bullying clique if you follow that persons ay, just so that you can protect yourself, and possibly your family. If you had not noticed they have taken a more sinister stand now and I am now frightened not only for my own life but my families as this person is no threatening my life!!! It is now proved that they are stalking me and noting everything I post and every thread I go on. Which is just creepy and very sinister! Are you really sure that you want to be associated with that sort of activity?
have you been drinking or doing crack again ????? threatening your life ???? seriously your completely and utterly mentally unstable.......... you are a wierdo............ and a fantasist please tell us all where your life was threatened.......... . oh hang on you made it up yet again yawn yawn yawn you are a child ( or have the mental age of one )
I do not drink I do not do drugs.

I also do not stalk other posters around the newspaper, I also do not cyber-bully other posters, I also do not post vile postings, such as you aimed at other posters.

You say I am mentally unstable - then what are you considering I have just described what you actually do on here!

You are threatening my life, you have become so unstable that your posts are frightening creepy and becoming more and more hostile so much so you could actually do anything, and everything!

If I have a mental age of 1 then I must be very bright for that mental age considering a 1 year old cannot type, cannot construct a sentence and most importantly cannot read!

And yet again you use 3 posts to show how big you are instead of 1 post - this showing how self-centered you are and the big bully-boy tactics that you have. It is you that crave the attention, and yes I give it to you. But you want more and more and more - especially as the number of posts you do aimed at me is now more than double the response posts I do!

Thee paper has to pay for the space they use on the net and here you are wasting their money - money they can ill-afford. therefore you are contributing to the closure of the paper and this website. Will you be happy once the paper has died?

In conclusion that post of yours describes you perfectly and not me!
[quote][p][bold]bwfcsmum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Darren1951[/bold] wrote: "The usual cyber-bullies are:-, George X, BWFCSMUM, Getajob, Jackael, and a new one appeared today which is Bazzerd" You've missed me of the list - I really am most deeply offended![/p][/quote]No you are just a sheep and expecting to be allowed to join their bullying clique if you follow that persons ay, just so that you can protect yourself, and possibly your family. If you had not noticed they have taken a more sinister stand now and I am now frightened not only for my own life but my families as this person is no threatening my life!!! It is now proved that they are stalking me and noting everything I post and every thread I go on. Which is just creepy and very sinister! Are you really sure that you want to be associated with that sort of activity?[/p][/quote]have you been drinking or doing crack again ????? threatening your life ???? seriously your completely and utterly mentally unstable.......... you are a wierdo............ and a fantasist please tell us all where your life was threatened.......... . oh hang on you made it up yet again yawn yawn yawn you are a child ( or have the mental age of one )[/p][/quote]I do not drink I do not do drugs. I also do not stalk other posters around the newspaper, I also do not cyber-bully other posters, I also do not post vile postings, such as you aimed at other posters. You say I am mentally unstable - then what are you considering I have just described what you actually do on here! You are threatening my life, you have become so unstable that your posts are frightening creepy and becoming more and more hostile so much so you could actually do anything, and everything! If I have a mental age of 1 then I must be very bright for that mental age considering a 1 year old cannot type, cannot construct a sentence and most importantly cannot read! And yet again you use 3 posts to show how big you are instead of 1 post - this showing how self-centered you are and the big bully-boy tactics that you have. It is you that crave the attention, and yes I give it to you. But you want more and more and more - especially as the number of posts you do aimed at me is now more than double the response posts I do! Thee paper has to pay for the space they use on the net and here you are wasting their money - money they can ill-afford. therefore you are contributing to the closure of the paper and this website. Will you be happy once the paper has died? In conclusion that post of yours describes you perfectly and not me! BWFC71
  • Score: -25

11:13pm Mon 17 Mar 14

Darren1951 says...

"And still quoting from Blackadder - yet again it is a misquote."

You really are a poor, semi-literate, self-obsessed imbecile, aren't you?
All these threats to have me, and others, "struck off" don't seem to be working, do they? because.........surp
rise, surprise,.....I'M STILL HERE!

Have you always suffered from this mental condition, whatever it may be, or is it something with which you've recently become infected?

Your mother was a hamster, and your father smelt of elderberries!

Friendly suggestion - why not donate your brain for medical research? I'm sure they'd have hours of fun dissecting and examining it, but, of course, firstly, they'd have to find it.

Oh, nearly forgot - WIBBLE!
"And still quoting from Blackadder - yet again it is a misquote." You really are a poor, semi-literate, self-obsessed imbecile, aren't you? All these threats to have me, and others, "struck off" don't seem to be working, do they? because.........surp rise, surprise,.....I'M STILL HERE! Have you always suffered from this mental condition, whatever it may be, or is it something with which you've recently become infected? Your mother was a hamster, and your father smelt of elderberries! Friendly suggestion - why not donate your brain for medical research? I'm sure they'd have hours of fun dissecting and examining it, but, of course, firstly, they'd have to find it. Oh, nearly forgot - WIBBLE! Darren1951
  • Score: 0

11:19pm Mon 17 Mar 14

BWFC71 says...

Darren1951 wrote:
"And still quoting from Blackadder - yet again it is a misquote." You really are a poor, semi-literate, self-obsessed imbecile, aren't you? All these threats to have me, and others, "struck off" don't seem to be working, do they? because.........surp rise, surprise,.....I'M STILL HERE! Have you always suffered from this mental condition, whatever it may be, or is it something with which you've recently become infected? Your mother was a hamster, and your father smelt of elderberries! Friendly suggestion - why not donate your brain for medical research? I'm sure they'd have hours of fun dissecting and examining it, but, of course, firstly, they'd have to find it. Oh, nearly forgot - WIBBLE!
Why are you frightened of being yourself?

Why do you succumb to be part of the bullying clique?

Can you not think for yourself or do you have to be led?

Have you apologised to Lynnne57 for using her name in vain?

Why are you still mis-quoting Blackadder (I would advise you to re-watch series 4 episode 6 to see the actual quotation and then see the error of your ways in using the word!)
[quote][p][bold]Darren1951[/bold] wrote: "And still quoting from Blackadder - yet again it is a misquote." You really are a poor, semi-literate, self-obsessed imbecile, aren't you? All these threats to have me, and others, "struck off" don't seem to be working, do they? because.........surp rise, surprise,.....I'M STILL HERE! Have you always suffered from this mental condition, whatever it may be, or is it something with which you've recently become infected? Your mother was a hamster, and your father smelt of elderberries! Friendly suggestion - why not donate your brain for medical research? I'm sure they'd have hours of fun dissecting and examining it, but, of course, firstly, they'd have to find it. Oh, nearly forgot - WIBBLE![/p][/quote]Why are you frightened of being yourself? Why do you succumb to be part of the bullying clique? Can you not think for yourself or do you have to be led? Have you apologised to Lynnne57 for using her name in vain? Why are you still mis-quoting Blackadder (I would advise you to re-watch series 4 episode 6 to see the actual quotation and then see the error of your ways in using the word!) BWFC71
  • Score: -34

11:27pm Mon 17 Mar 14

BWFC71 says...

Almost forgot - it seems that you have forgotten that your name wasn't on the "to ban" list. And as I have said they are investigating it and I have complained to the Newspaper regulating authority, the PCC and ben in contact with GMP to see what can be done about the cyber bullying!

Like I said this morning, if you want to be associated with people who have threatened my life and my family's life and said very sick and vile things about me on here then so be it!

But like I said you have spoiled it for yourself.

But you have never answered my original question which was, what have YOU gained from spoiling this thread and spoiling it for the casual reader?

And y follow on question which as, have you apologised to Lynne57 for using her name in vain?

Or do you have to refer to your vile sick bullyboy friends to answer hose two simple questions, as I know you are a sheep and not an individual!
Almost forgot - it seems that you have forgotten that your name wasn't on the "to ban" list. And as I have said they are investigating it and I have complained to the Newspaper regulating authority, the PCC and ben in contact with GMP to see what can be done about the cyber bullying! Like I said this morning, if you want to be associated with people who have threatened my life and my family's life and said very sick and vile things about me on here then so be it! But like I said you have spoiled it for yourself. But you have never answered my original question which was, what have YOU gained from spoiling this thread and spoiling it for the casual reader? And y follow on question which as, have you apologised to Lynne57 for using her name in vain? Or do you have to refer to your vile sick bullyboy friends to answer hose two simple questions, as I know you are a sheep and not an individual! BWFC71
  • Score: -38

11:28pm Mon 17 Mar 14

Darren1951 says...

BWFC71 wrote:
Darren1951 wrote:
"And still quoting from Blackadder - yet again it is a misquote." You really are a poor, semi-literate, self-obsessed imbecile, aren't you? All these threats to have me, and others, "struck off" don't seem to be working, do they? because.........surp rise, surprise,.....I'M STILL HERE! Have you always suffered from this mental condition, whatever it may be, or is it something with which you've recently become infected? Your mother was a hamster, and your father smelt of elderberries! Friendly suggestion - why not donate your brain for medical research? I'm sure they'd have hours of fun dissecting and examining it, but, of course, firstly, they'd have to find it. Oh, nearly forgot - WIBBLE!
Why are you frightened of being yourself?

Why do you succumb to be part of the bullying clique?

Can you not think for yourself or do you have to be led?

Have you apologised to Lynnne57 for using her name in vain?

Why are you still mis-quoting Blackadder (I would advise you to re-watch series 4 episode 6 to see the actual quotation and then see the error of your ways in using the word!)
What word - WIBBLE?
[quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Darren1951[/bold] wrote: "And still quoting from Blackadder - yet again it is a misquote." You really are a poor, semi-literate, self-obsessed imbecile, aren't you? All these threats to have me, and others, "struck off" don't seem to be working, do they? because.........surp rise, surprise,.....I'M STILL HERE! Have you always suffered from this mental condition, whatever it may be, or is it something with which you've recently become infected? Your mother was a hamster, and your father smelt of elderberries! Friendly suggestion - why not donate your brain for medical research? I'm sure they'd have hours of fun dissecting and examining it, but, of course, firstly, they'd have to find it. Oh, nearly forgot - WIBBLE![/p][/quote]Why are you frightened of being yourself? Why do you succumb to be part of the bullying clique? Can you not think for yourself or do you have to be led? Have you apologised to Lynnne57 for using her name in vain? Why are you still mis-quoting Blackadder (I would advise you to re-watch series 4 episode 6 to see the actual quotation and then see the error of your ways in using the word!)[/p][/quote]What word - WIBBLE? Darren1951
  • Score: 11

11:31pm Mon 17 Mar 14

BWFC71 says...

Darren1951 wrote:
BWFC71 wrote:
Darren1951 wrote: "And still quoting from Blackadder - yet again it is a misquote." You really are a poor, semi-literate, self-obsessed imbecile, aren't you? All these threats to have me, and others, "struck off" don't seem to be working, do they? because.........surp rise, surprise,.....I'M STILL HERE! Have you always suffered from this mental condition, whatever it may be, or is it something with which you've recently become infected? Your mother was a hamster, and your father smelt of elderberries! Friendly suggestion - why not donate your brain for medical research? I'm sure they'd have hours of fun dissecting and examining it, but, of course, firstly, they'd have to find it. Oh, nearly forgot - WIBBLE!
Why are you frightened of being yourself? Why do you succumb to be part of the bullying clique? Can you not think for yourself or do you have to be led? Have you apologised to Lynnne57 for using her name in vain? Why are you still mis-quoting Blackadder (I would advise you to re-watch series 4 episode 6 to see the actual quotation and then see the error of your ways in using the word!)
What word - WIBBLE?
Why are you frightened of being yourself?

Why do you succumb to be part of the bullying clique?

Can you not think for yourself or do you have to be led?

Have you apologised to Lynnne57 for using her name in vain?
[quote][p][bold]Darren1951[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Darren1951[/bold] wrote: "And still quoting from Blackadder - yet again it is a misquote." You really are a poor, semi-literate, self-obsessed imbecile, aren't you? All these threats to have me, and others, "struck off" don't seem to be working, do they? because.........surp rise, surprise,.....I'M STILL HERE! Have you always suffered from this mental condition, whatever it may be, or is it something with which you've recently become infected? Your mother was a hamster, and your father smelt of elderberries! Friendly suggestion - why not donate your brain for medical research? I'm sure they'd have hours of fun dissecting and examining it, but, of course, firstly, they'd have to find it. Oh, nearly forgot - WIBBLE![/p][/quote]Why are you frightened of being yourself? Why do you succumb to be part of the bullying clique? Can you not think for yourself or do you have to be led? Have you apologised to Lynnne57 for using her name in vain? Why are you still mis-quoting Blackadder (I would advise you to re-watch series 4 episode 6 to see the actual quotation and then see the error of your ways in using the word!)[/p][/quote]What word - WIBBLE?[/p][/quote]Why are you frightened of being yourself? Why do you succumb to be part of the bullying clique? Can you not think for yourself or do you have to be led? Have you apologised to Lynnne57 for using her name in vain? BWFC71
  • Score: -51

11:32pm Mon 17 Mar 14

BWFC71 says...

What have YOU gained from spoiling this thread and spoiling it for the casual reader?
What have YOU gained from spoiling this thread and spoiling it for the casual reader? BWFC71
  • Score: -25

11:34pm Mon 17 Mar 14

Darren1951 says...

"And y follow on question which as, have you apologised to Lynne57 for using her name in vain?"
Why, what possible concern of yours is it? I'm sure she's more than capable of speaking for herself - she certainly doesn't need a complete and utter a**ehead like you to support her cause.
"And y follow on question which as, have you apologised to Lynne57 for using her name in vain?" Why, what possible concern of yours is it? I'm sure she's more than capable of speaking for herself - she certainly doesn't need a complete and utter a**ehead like you to support her cause. Darren1951
  • Score: -14

11:35pm Mon 17 Mar 14

BWFC71 says...

Darren1951 wrote:
Lynne57 - how long do you reckon before we're blessed with a visitation from you know who?
Have you apologised to Lynne57 for bringing her into your pathetic childish games to abuse a fellow poster?

How does she feel knowing that you have abused her good name for your own games?

What have YOU gained from spoiling this thread and spoiling it for the casual reader?
[quote][p][bold]Darren1951[/bold] wrote: Lynne57 - how long do you reckon before we're blessed with a visitation from you know who?[/p][/quote]Have you apologised to Lynne57 for bringing her into your pathetic childish games to abuse a fellow poster? How does she feel knowing that you have abused her good name for your own games? What have YOU gained from spoiling this thread and spoiling it for the casual reader? BWFC71
  • Score: -49

11:36pm Mon 17 Mar 14

BWFC71 says...

Darren1951 wrote:
Lynne57 - how long do you reckon before we're blessed with a visitation from you know who?
I'm sure she's more than capable of speaking for herself - she certainly doesn't need a complete and utter a**ehead like you to support her cause.
[quote][p][bold]Darren1951[/bold] wrote: Lynne57 - how long do you reckon before we're blessed with a visitation from you know who?[/p][/quote]I'm sure she's more than capable of speaking for herself - she certainly doesn't need a complete and utter a**ehead like you to support her cause. BWFC71
  • Score: -22

11:37pm Mon 17 Mar 14

BWFC71 says...

Darren1951 wrote:
"And y follow on question which as, have you apologised to Lynne57 for using her name in vain?" Why, what possible concern of yours is it? I'm sure she's more than capable of speaking for herself - she certainly doesn't need a complete and utter a**ehead like you to support her cause.
What have YOU gained from spoiling this thread and spoiling it for the casual reader?
[quote][p][bold]Darren1951[/bold] wrote: "And y follow on question which as, have you apologised to Lynne57 for using her name in vain?" Why, what possible concern of yours is it? I'm sure she's more than capable of speaking for herself - she certainly doesn't need a complete and utter a**ehead like you to support her cause.[/p][/quote]What have YOU gained from spoiling this thread and spoiling it for the casual reader? BWFC71
  • Score: -20

11:38pm Mon 17 Mar 14

Darren1951 says...

BWFC71 wrote:
Darren1951 wrote:
Lynne57 - how long do you reckon before we're blessed with a visitation from you know who?
I'm sure she's more than capable of speaking for herself - she certainly doesn't need a complete and utter a**ehead like you to support her cause.
Plagiarism - SUE, SUE, SUE!
[quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Darren1951[/bold] wrote: Lynne57 - how long do you reckon before we're blessed with a visitation from you know who?[/p][/quote]I'm sure she's more than capable of speaking for herself - she certainly doesn't need a complete and utter a**ehead like you to support her cause.[/p][/quote]Plagiarism - SUE, SUE, SUE! Darren1951
  • Score: -1

11:43pm Mon 17 Mar 14

BWFC71 says...

Darren1951 wrote:
BWFC71 wrote:
Darren1951 wrote: Lynne57 - how long do you reckon before we're blessed with a visitation from you know who?
I'm sure she's more than capable of speaking for herself - she certainly doesn't need a complete and utter a**ehead like you to support her cause.
Plagiarism - SUE, SUE, SUE!
well you basically described yourself and it had to b shown.

I bet you forgot you had posted that, and then you had a go at me for something which you actually did!

Made me laugh out loud, anyway, that you have double standards!
[quote][p][bold]Darren1951[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Darren1951[/bold] wrote: Lynne57 - how long do you reckon before we're blessed with a visitation from you know who?[/p][/quote]I'm sure she's more than capable of speaking for herself - she certainly doesn't need a complete and utter a**ehead like you to support her cause.[/p][/quote]Plagiarism - SUE, SUE, SUE![/p][/quote]well you basically described yourself and it had to b shown. I bet you forgot you had posted that, and then you had a go at me for something which you actually did! Made me laugh out loud, anyway, that you have double standards! BWFC71
  • Score: -44

11:43pm Mon 17 Mar 14

BWFC71 says...

What have YOU gained from spoiling this thread and spoiling it for the casual reader?
What have YOU gained from spoiling this thread and spoiling it for the casual reader? BWFC71
  • Score: -26

8:23am Tue 18 Mar 14

BWFC71 says...

Darren,

I see that you saw fit to comment in the newer rail news story but not answer my question - how ignorant of you!

What is up, have you been shamed into not commenting because you have been shown up as a person with double standards and being a hypocrite?

so once again I ask, what have YOU gained from spoiling this thread and spoiling it for the casual reader?
Darren, I see that you saw fit to comment in the newer rail news story but not answer my question - how ignorant of you! What is up, have you been shamed into not commenting because you have been shown up as a person with double standards and being a hypocrite? so once again I ask, what have YOU gained from spoiling this thread and spoiling it for the casual reader? BWFC71
  • Score: -14

9:55am Tue 18 Mar 14

Darren1951 says...

BWFC71 - you've already said that you don't drink - do you smoke?
BWFC71 - you've already said that you don't drink - do you smoke? Darren1951
  • Score: -1

10:38am Tue 18 Mar 14

BWFC71 says...

Darren1951 wrote:
BWFC71 - you've already said that you don't drink - do you smoke?
I used to, but gave up with the help from the medial profession.

You have to remember that if you try to give up yourself you are removing one addiction to another addiction to fill that empty void! The medical profession is there to stop that from happening and to stop the addiction completely!

Darren, why will you not answer my question - is it too difficult to answer?

Therefore I am asking again, what have YOU gained from spoiling this thread and spoiling it for the casual reader?
[quote][p][bold]Darren1951[/bold] wrote: BWFC71 - you've already said that you don't drink - do you smoke?[/p][/quote]I used to, but gave up with the help from the medial profession. You have to remember that if you try to give up yourself you are removing one addiction to another addiction to fill that empty void! The medical profession is there to stop that from happening and to stop the addiction completely! Darren, why will you not answer my question - is it too difficult to answer? Therefore I am asking again, what have YOU gained from spoiling this thread and spoiling it for the casual reader? BWFC71
  • Score: -10

10:47am Tue 18 Mar 14

Darren1951 says...

BWFC71 wrote:
Darren1951 wrote:
BWFC71 - you've already said that you don't drink - do you smoke?
I used to, but gave up with the help from the medial profession.

You have to remember that if you try to give up yourself you are removing one addiction to another addiction to fill that empty void! The medical profession is there to stop that from happening and to stop the addiction completely!

Darren, why will you not answer my question - is it too difficult to answer?

Therefore I am asking again, what have YOU gained from spoiling this thread and spoiling it for the casual reader?
I don't suppose you eat hay either, do you?
[quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Darren1951[/bold] wrote: BWFC71 - you've already said that you don't drink - do you smoke?[/p][/quote]I used to, but gave up with the help from the medial profession. You have to remember that if you try to give up yourself you are removing one addiction to another addiction to fill that empty void! The medical profession is there to stop that from happening and to stop the addiction completely! Darren, why will you not answer my question - is it too difficult to answer? Therefore I am asking again, what have YOU gained from spoiling this thread and spoiling it for the casual reader?[/p][/quote]I don't suppose you eat hay either, do you? Darren1951
  • Score: 2

12:16pm Tue 18 Mar 14

BWFC71 says...

Darren,

Why can you answer such a simple question, and as I have been asking for an answer since Thursday evening my question takes precedent over yours! And I will keep asking until you do answer.

What have YOU gained from spoiling this thread and spoiling it for the casual reader?
Darren, Why can you answer such a simple question, and as I have been asking for an answer since Thursday evening my question takes precedent over yours! And I will keep asking until you do answer. What have YOU gained from spoiling this thread and spoiling it for the casual reader? BWFC71
  • Score: -18

5:19pm Tue 18 Mar 14

katiwils says...

Hi,

I'm looking for people who regularly use this service to get to and from work for a new Channel 5 documentary...

I'm looking for a wide range of commuter experiences so please do get in touch and tell me more!

E-mail me: roadsandcommutes@stv
.tv

Thanks so much
Kate
Hi, I'm looking for people who regularly use this service to get to and from work for a new Channel 5 documentary... I'm looking for a wide range of commuter experiences so please do get in touch and tell me more! E-mail me: roadsandcommutes@stv .tv Thanks so much Kate katiwils
  • Score: -4

6:00pm Tue 18 Mar 14

BWFC71 says...

katiwils wrote:
Hi, I'm looking for people who regularly use this service to get to and from work for a new Channel 5 documentary... I'm looking for a wide range of commuter experiences so please do get in touch and tell me more! E-mail me: roadsandcommutes@stv .tv Thanks so much Kate
Your best bet is to contact The BN editors to actually do a report in the paper itself so you can get more people to contact you.
[quote][p][bold]katiwils[/bold] wrote: Hi, I'm looking for people who regularly use this service to get to and from work for a new Channel 5 documentary... I'm looking for a wide range of commuter experiences so please do get in touch and tell me more! E-mail me: roadsandcommutes@stv .tv Thanks so much Kate[/p][/quote]Your best bet is to contact The BN editors to actually do a report in the paper itself so you can get more people to contact you. BWFC71
  • Score: -18

6:34pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Darren1951 says...

BWFC71 wrote:
Darren,

Why can you answer such a simple question, and as I have been asking for an answer since Thursday evening my question takes precedent over yours! And I will keep asking until you do answer.

What have YOU gained from spoiling this thread and spoiling it for the casual reader?
Did I just hear the sound of a dummy being spat out- again?
[quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: Darren, Why can you answer such a simple question, and as I have been asking for an answer since Thursday evening my question takes precedent over yours! And I will keep asking until you do answer. What have YOU gained from spoiling this thread and spoiling it for the casual reader?[/p][/quote]Did I just hear the sound of a dummy being spat out- again? Darren1951
  • Score: 0

7:30pm Tue 18 Mar 14

BWFC71 says...

Darren1951 wrote:
BWFC71 wrote: Darren, Why can you answer such a simple question, and as I have been asking for an answer since Thursday evening my question takes precedent over yours! And I will keep asking until you do answer. What have YOU gained from spoiling this thread and spoiling it for the casual reader?
Did I just hear the sound of a dummy being spat out- again?
Darren,

Why can you answer such a simple question, and as I have been asking for an answer since Thursday evening my question takes precedent over yours! And I will keep asking until you do answer.

If you need an interpreter for you to understand English I can supply one for you, at a cost!

What have YOU gained from spoiling this thread and spoiling it for the casual reader?
[quote][p][bold]Darren1951[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BWFC71[/bold] wrote: Darren, Why can you answer such a simple question, and as I have been asking for an answer since Thursday evening my question takes precedent over yours! And I will keep asking until you do answer. What have YOU gained from spoiling this thread and spoiling it for the casual reader?[/p][/quote]Did I just hear the sound of a dummy being spat out- again?[/p][/quote]Darren, Why can you answer such a simple question, and as I have been asking for an answer since Thursday evening my question takes precedent over yours! And I will keep asking until you do answer. If you need an interpreter for you to understand English I can supply one for you, at a cost! What have YOU gained from spoiling this thread and spoiling it for the casual reader? BWFC71
  • Score: -1

7:37pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Darren1951 says...

BZZZZZZ - repetition!"
BZZZZZZ - repetition!" Darren1951
  • Score: 1

8:28pm Tue 18 Mar 14

BWFC71 says...

Darren1951 wrote:
BZZZZZZ - repetition!"
Answer the question or I will go all Jeremy Paxman and keep repeating until you do answer it!

It is such a simple question and doesn't need a large explanation and I honestly cannot see why you are so terrified of answering it. 4 days and still not answered - but I will keep on asking!

What have YOU gained from spoiling this thread and spoiling it for the casual reader?
[quote][p][bold]Darren1951[/bold] wrote: BZZZZZZ - repetition!"[/p][/quote]Answer the question or I will go all Jeremy Paxman and keep repeating until you do answer it! It is such a simple question and doesn't need a large explanation and I honestly cannot see why you are so terrified of answering it. 4 days and still not answered - but I will keep on asking! What have YOU gained from spoiling this thread and spoiling it for the casual reader? BWFC71
  • Score: -3

1:48pm Wed 19 Mar 14

RogerDT says...

The trains to manchester are an absolute disgrace. Getting on (& off at Deansgate) the 07.55 to Hazel Grove is shambolic & dangerous.
Seen my fair share of people collapse & faint over the last year or so. At least the summer is coming so they can put us on the f*cking roof on the nice days !!!
The trains to manchester are an absolute disgrace. Getting on (& off at Deansgate) the 07.55 to Hazel Grove is shambolic & dangerous. Seen my fair share of people collapse & faint over the last year or so. At least the summer is coming so they can put us on the f*cking roof on the nice days !!! RogerDT
  • Score: 0

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