Nearly one in five people in Bolton have no qualifications

The Bolton News: Nearly one in five people in Bolton have no qualifications Nearly one in five people in Bolton have no qualifications

NEARLY one in five people in Bolton have no qualifications, a new report has revealed.

Analysis from the Office of National Statistics (ONS) shows the town has one of the worst records in the country for educational attainment, with 19 per cent of people aged 16 to 64 with no qualifications.

It means Bolton is the 48th worst performer out of 348 local authorities — in the bottom 15 per cent.

In Greater Manchester, Oldham and Rochdale had lower attainment with 22.2 per cent and 21.5 per cent respectively, while Trafford was the best with only 11.2 per cent without qualif-ications. Based on the census there were 33,722 people without qualific-ations in Bolton.

A breakdown of the figures showed that 6,446 people has completed an apprenticeship, 3.6 per cent of the population, which placed it 138 in the table, while 24 per cent of people had been educated to degree level, equivalent to more than 42,000 people, ranking it 256.

Eighteen per cent of people’s highest qualificat-ion attained was at GCSE level graded A* to C or equivalents, making it 215th in the country out of 348 authorities.

The Bolton News has previously reported in Bolton South East, which includes Farnworth, Kearsley and Great Lever, 16.1 per cent of residents have no qualifications, making it one of the country’s blackspots for educational under-achieve-ment.

Town Hall chiefs said the figures related to 2011 and that the picture is improving.

A Bolton Council spokesman said: “We know there are significant challenges Bolton and Greater Manchester face in improving the skills and qualifications of our residents.

“Over the last few years we have seen a steady improvement in GCSE results, and our 2013 results were better than the national average.

“Through Team Bolton we are also working to provide access to jobs such as those emerging at Logistics North.”

The council also has a Skills Strategy, which focuses on supporting both young people and adults and improving their access to training, skills and employment opportunities.

The spokesman added: “The town centre Education Zone brings together Bolton Sixth Form College, Bolton College and the University of Bolton catering for around 30,000 learners. Building on the success of the zone will be central to improving the skills and qualifications of our residents.”

Only four per cent of people in the City of London had no qualifications. The national average for England and Wales is 22.7 per cent.

The national average for those being educated to degree level is 27.2 per cent.

Cllr Martyn Cox, Chairman of Children’s Services Scrutiny Comm-ittee, described the figures as a scandal, given the amount of public money spent to educate people.

He said: “Schools from the top down need to tackle to poor performance.”

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8:46am Sun 16 Mar 14

JustBecause says...

The point of this story is ?.....

The age range is 19-64 so it's clearly skewed figures and more nonsense reporting, what's the figures for 16-21 ?
The point of this story is ?..... The age range is 19-64 so it's clearly skewed figures and more nonsense reporting, what's the figures for 16-21 ? JustBecause
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9:54am Sun 16 Mar 14

itsnotthatbad says...

And 4 out of 5 of these people work for Bolton news as "journalists" judging by the quality of the stories they call "news" I give it 2 hours before this is removed.... :-)
And 4 out of 5 of these people work for Bolton news as "journalists" judging by the quality of the stories they call "news" I give it 2 hours before this is removed.... :-) itsnotthatbad
  • Score: 21

10:04am Sun 16 Mar 14

Julian Thorpe says...

itsnotthatbad wrote:
And 4 out of 5 of these people work for Bolton news as "journalists" judging by the quality of the stories they call "news" I give it 2 hours before this is removed.... :-)
We don't censor criticism.
[quote][p][bold]itsnotthatbad[/bold] wrote: And 4 out of 5 of these people work for Bolton news as "journalists" judging by the quality of the stories they call "news" I give it 2 hours before this is removed.... :-)[/p][/quote]We don't censor criticism. Julian Thorpe
  • Score: -4

10:07am Sun 16 Mar 14

steverock6@sky.com says...

I have 58 qualifications but still can't get a job because I am over 50 employers prefer younger people qualifications make little difference in the job market!
I have 58 qualifications but still can't get a job because I am over 50 employers prefer younger people qualifications make little difference in the job market! steverock6@sky.com
  • Score: 10

10:19am Sun 16 Mar 14

marco999 says...

Having no qualifications is fine because you'll still be able to get a job with some of the biggest employers in the country, plus you only need a couple of sentences in your limited vocabulary - “have you got a clubcard?” or “do you want fries with that?”
Having no qualifications is fine because you'll still be able to get a job with some of the biggest employers in the country, plus you only need a couple of sentences in your limited vocabulary - “have you got a clubcard?” or “do you want fries with that?” marco999
  • Score: -7

11:16am Sun 16 Mar 14

cranks says...

no surprises there then as i would guess that one in every 10 cant even speak english properly in this town despite being here all there lives or for donkey's years....
no surprises there then as i would guess that one in every 10 cant even speak english properly in this town despite being here all there lives or for donkey's years.... cranks
  • Score: 28

11:33am Sun 16 Mar 14

NHLUFC says...

cranks wrote:
no surprises there then as i would guess that one in every 10 cant even speak english properly in this town despite being here all there lives or for donkey's years....
You could start by teaching them their and there once you've got it sorted out yourself. Oh and English starts with an E.
[quote][p][bold]cranks[/bold] wrote: no surprises there then as i would guess that one in every 10 cant even speak english properly in this town despite being here all there lives or for donkey's years....[/p][/quote]You could start by teaching them their and there once you've got it sorted out yourself. Oh and English starts with an E. NHLUFC
  • Score: -11

11:38am Sun 16 Mar 14

NHLUFC says...

cranks wrote:
no surprises there then as i would guess that one in every 10 cant even speak english properly in this town despite being here all there lives or for donkey's years....
It's "can't" "No" and "I" by the way.
[quote][p][bold]cranks[/bold] wrote: no surprises there then as i would guess that one in every 10 cant even speak english properly in this town despite being here all there lives or for donkey's years....[/p][/quote]It's "can't" "No" and "I" by the way. NHLUFC
  • Score: 6

11:43am Sun 16 Mar 14

NHLUFC says...

cranks wrote:
no surprises there then as i would guess that one in every 10 cant even speak english properly in this town despite being here all there lives or for donkey's years....
I wouldn't recommend "one in 10" either, use numbers or words, it's not good grammar to mix them.

I was taught English by a lovely, well spoken Asian lady. Perhaps I could introduce you?
[quote][p][bold]cranks[/bold] wrote: no surprises there then as i would guess that one in every 10 cant even speak english properly in this town despite being here all there lives or for donkey's years....[/p][/quote]I wouldn't recommend "one in 10" either, use numbers or words, it's not good grammar to mix them. I was taught English by a lovely, well spoken Asian lady. Perhaps I could introduce you? NHLUFC
  • Score: -25

11:49am Sun 16 Mar 14

soup153 says...

Is OCD a qualification?
Is OCD a qualification? soup153
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12:09pm Sun 16 Mar 14

MarkAllRead says...

steverock6@sky.com wrote:
I have 58 qualifications but still can't get a job because I am over 50 employers prefer younger people qualifications make little difference in the job market!
Seriously, look into starting your own company and you can be in total control of who you employ and what you do. You must have loads of experience at that age, just apply it to your own company, not someone else's.
[quote][p][bold]steverock6@sky.com[/bold] wrote: I have 58 qualifications but still can't get a job because I am over 50 employers prefer younger people qualifications make little difference in the job market![/p][/quote]Seriously, look into starting your own company and you can be in total control of who you employ and what you do. You must have loads of experience at that age, just apply it to your own company, not someone else's. MarkAllRead
  • Score: 1

12:20pm Sun 16 Mar 14

Greasy Chip Butty says...

cranks wrote:
no surprises there then as i would guess that one in every 10 cant even speak english properly in this town despite being here all there lives or for donkey's years....
What an absurd comment.
Those least likely to speak/understand English would be those who have arrived as economic migrants and refugees. The long established Ukranian, Polish, Indian, Chinese, etc several generations down the line would be much better English speakers. Anyway the irony of your comment is that those very workers who have come as economic migrants are currently in employment with a limited command of the English language.
[quote][p][bold]cranks[/bold] wrote: no surprises there then as i would guess that one in every 10 cant even speak english properly in this town despite being here all there lives or for donkey's years....[/p][/quote]What an absurd comment. Those least likely to speak/understand English would be those who have arrived as economic migrants and refugees. The long established Ukranian, Polish, Indian, Chinese, etc several generations down the line would be much better English speakers. Anyway the irony of your comment is that those very workers who have come as economic migrants are currently in employment with a limited command of the English language. Greasy Chip Butty
  • Score: -14

12:22pm Sun 16 Mar 14

Zippy86 says...

NHLUFC wrote:
cranks wrote:
no surprises there then as i would guess that one in every 10 cant even speak english properly in this town despite being here all there lives or for donkey's years....
It's "can't" "No" and "I" by the way.
Obviously you missed out on grammar lessons too. 'Their' lives
[quote][p][bold]NHLUFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cranks[/bold] wrote: no surprises there then as i would guess that one in every 10 cant even speak english properly in this town despite being here all there lives or for donkey's years....[/p][/quote]It's "can't" "No" and "I" by the way.[/p][/quote]Obviously you missed out on grammar lessons too. 'Their' lives Zippy86
  • Score: 10

12:27pm Sun 16 Mar 14

Gore Seer says...

I Have No Qualification, I work In Engineering Milling, Lath, Turning, Drilling, Steel Office Furniture Fitter,Steel shelving Erector, A Upholster For The Dolomit Car, Quality Control Inspector, I Work At Walmsley's Foundry Were I Was A Hover Head Crane Driver The Crane Lifted Fifty Ton Of Molten Metal. I Work In The Mill Card Tenter, Scutcher Tenter,Heat Conditioner, Fork Lift Driver, Drivers Mate At White Arrow Parcel Dispatch Op Using Computer Control Parcel Incoming And Out Going,My Last Job Was At CRS Gaskets I Was Operating A Machine Making Gaskets, I Was The Fastest Gasket Producer,I Went In With Agency The Firm Took Me On Permanent, Ho Yes I Went To A Firm Plastic Extrusion I Learnt The Job I Went In Working For Agency A1 Plastics Took Me On Permanently, I Left School At 15 My Teacher Said I Be A Looser, I Was Dyslectic,Ho Yes I Work At Bolton Gate A Lift Fitter Ill Stop There.
I Have No Qualification, I work In Engineering Milling, Lath, Turning, Drilling, Steel Office Furniture Fitter,Steel shelving Erector, A Upholster For The Dolomit Car, Quality Control Inspector, I Work At Walmsley's Foundry Were I Was A Hover Head Crane Driver The Crane Lifted Fifty Ton Of Molten Metal. I Work In The Mill Card Tenter, Scutcher Tenter,Heat Conditioner, Fork Lift Driver, Drivers Mate At White Arrow Parcel Dispatch Op Using Computer Control Parcel Incoming And Out Going,My Last Job Was At CRS Gaskets I Was Operating A Machine Making Gaskets, I Was The Fastest Gasket Producer,I Went In With Agency The Firm Took Me On Permanent, Ho Yes I Went To A Firm Plastic Extrusion I Learnt The Job I Went In Working For Agency A1 Plastics Took Me On Permanently, I Left School At 15 My Teacher Said I Be A Looser, I Was Dyslectic,Ho Yes I Work At Bolton Gate A Lift Fitter Ill Stop There. Gore Seer
  • Score: -2

12:28pm Sun 16 Mar 14

m.nealon says...

I have 15 commercial qualifications studied for at the now demolished Bolton Technical College Manchester Road and a BSC Hons Dip.AppSS(open) but alas I'm 71 years old. Seriously though, 7 year apprenticeships did provide excellent skill training. Today, you are required to sit exams for b e ing a labourer on a building site. No disrespect to such labourers they do work hard but the Government have gone mad. It's all about people having to pay to get a piece of paper to prove they can lift a shovel, to drive a lorry even though they've been doing it for more than 20 years and costing at least £400 every five years insulting. All they require for safety is to have a single refresher lesson proving they can drive it safely instead they have to pay for 35 hours every 5 years - a way of making money out of people who haven't got money because they are unemployed or just about making ends meet. Talk about the chicken and the egg. The job centre will help to pay for the required qualifications if you have a job but no one will give you a job without them!

Thank God I'm retired.
I have 15 commercial qualifications studied for at the now demolished Bolton Technical College Manchester Road and a BSC Hons Dip.AppSS(open) but alas I'm 71 years old. Seriously though, 7 year apprenticeships did provide excellent skill training. Today, you are required to sit exams for b e ing a labourer on a building site. No disrespect to such labourers they do work hard but the Government have gone mad. It's all about people having to pay to get a piece of paper to prove they can lift a shovel, to drive a lorry even though they've been doing it for more than 20 years and costing at least £400 every five years insulting. All they require for safety is to have a single refresher lesson proving they can drive it safely instead they have to pay for 35 hours every 5 years - a way of making money out of people who haven't got money because they are unemployed or just about making ends meet. Talk about the chicken and the egg. The job centre will help to pay for the required qualifications if you have a job but no one will give you a job without them! Thank God I'm retired. m.nealon
  • Score: 13

1:17pm Sun 16 Mar 14

Lynn57 says...

Gore Seer wrote:
I Have No Qualification, I work In Engineering Milling, Lath, Turning, Drilling, Steel Office Furniture Fitter,Steel shelving Erector, A Upholster For The Dolomit Car, Quality Control Inspector, I Work At Walmsley's Foundry Were I Was A Hover Head Crane Driver The Crane Lifted Fifty Ton Of Molten Metal. I Work In The Mill Card Tenter, Scutcher Tenter,Heat Conditioner, Fork Lift Driver, Drivers Mate At White Arrow Parcel Dispatch Op Using Computer Control Parcel Incoming And Out Going,My Last Job Was At CRS Gaskets I Was Operating A Machine Making Gaskets, I Was The Fastest Gasket Producer,I Went In With Agency The Firm Took Me On Permanent, Ho Yes I Went To A Firm Plastic Extrusion I Learnt The Job I Went In Working For Agency A1 Plastics Took Me On Permanently, I Left School At 15 My Teacher Said I Be A Looser, I Was Dyslectic,Ho Yes I Work At Bolton Gate A Lift Fitter Ill Stop There.
Appalling grammar and use of context. How did you get through the educational system and are you really such a polymath?
[quote][p][bold]Gore Seer[/bold] wrote: I Have No Qualification, I work In Engineering Milling, Lath, Turning, Drilling, Steel Office Furniture Fitter,Steel shelving Erector, A Upholster For The Dolomit Car, Quality Control Inspector, I Work At Walmsley's Foundry Were I Was A Hover Head Crane Driver The Crane Lifted Fifty Ton Of Molten Metal. I Work In The Mill Card Tenter, Scutcher Tenter,Heat Conditioner, Fork Lift Driver, Drivers Mate At White Arrow Parcel Dispatch Op Using Computer Control Parcel Incoming And Out Going,My Last Job Was At CRS Gaskets I Was Operating A Machine Making Gaskets, I Was The Fastest Gasket Producer,I Went In With Agency The Firm Took Me On Permanent, Ho Yes I Went To A Firm Plastic Extrusion I Learnt The Job I Went In Working For Agency A1 Plastics Took Me On Permanently, I Left School At 15 My Teacher Said I Be A Looser, I Was Dyslectic,Ho Yes I Work At Bolton Gate A Lift Fitter Ill Stop There.[/p][/quote]Appalling grammar and use of context. How did you get through the educational system and are you really such a polymath? Lynn57
  • Score: -4

1:24pm Sun 16 Mar 14

MarkAllRead says...

Julian Thorpe wrote:
itsnotthatbad wrote:
And 4 out of 5 of these people work for Bolton news as "journalists" judging by the quality of the stories they call "news" I give it 2 hours before this is removed.... :-)
We don't censor criticism.
You're being very gracious describing that as criticism Julian, it sounded more like haters being haters.
[quote][p][bold]Julian Thorpe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]itsnotthatbad[/bold] wrote: And 4 out of 5 of these people work for Bolton news as "journalists" judging by the quality of the stories they call "news" I give it 2 hours before this is removed.... :-)[/p][/quote]We don't censor criticism.[/p][/quote]You're being very gracious describing that as criticism Julian, it sounded more like haters being haters. MarkAllRead
  • Score: 0

1:53pm Sun 16 Mar 14

Don Kiddick says...

cranks wrote:
no surprises there then as i would guess that one in every 10 cant even speak english properly in this town despite being here all there lives or for donkey's years....
That would be "their" lives rather than "there". I love the irony.
[quote][p][bold]cranks[/bold] wrote: no surprises there then as i would guess that one in every 10 cant even speak english properly in this town despite being here all there lives or for donkey's years....[/p][/quote]That would be "their" lives rather than "there". I love the irony. Don Kiddick
  • Score: -36

1:56pm Sun 16 Mar 14

Paul.Evs says...

One in five are uneducated, that's a shocking statistic... Almost 30% of our population have no qualifications !
One in five are uneducated, that's a shocking statistic... Almost 30% of our population have no qualifications ! Paul.Evs
  • Score: 4

2:18pm Sun 16 Mar 14

Reality50 says...

Half of the under 30's these days seem to have brains addled with cannabis so no surprise at these figures.
Half of the under 30's these days seem to have brains addled with cannabis so no surprise at these figures. Reality50
  • Score: 4

2:27pm Sun 16 Mar 14

JustBecause says...

BN your figures are wrong and paint Bolton in a dim light, which it is capable of doing on its own without your help.

The actual figure of 13.5 % of working age people have not reported to having any education certification is a long way off 1 in 5 it should be being reported as nearly 1 in 7


Would it not be a better story to say 1 in 4 are educated to nvq level 4 or above, (degree level) or that 42.3% where level 3 nvq ( A level)
BN your figures are wrong and paint Bolton in a dim light, which it is capable of doing on its own without your help. The actual figure of 13.5 % of working age people have not reported to having any education certification is a long way off 1 in 5 it should be being reported as nearly 1 in 7 Would it not be a better story to say 1 in 4 are educated to nvq level 4 or above, (degree level) or that 42.3% where level 3 nvq ( A level) JustBecause
  • Score: -14

2:58pm Sun 16 Mar 14

oftbewildered2 says...

my friend left school with no qualifications. At 70 she has a nursing degree, another degree from OU, owns property and is still working at an Executive Officer for a very large worldwide Charity (St John - for which organisation she is a Member of the Order). She was voted Woman of the year for the state she lives in. One of her sons has his own company, the other holds down a very responsible job. You may have guessed that she does not live in this country, but was educated here, until she emigrated and decided to better herself. I am very proud of her. I sometimes think that teachers have their hands tied when it comes to teaching children nowadays - not all children learn from the same format and at one time teachers were in control of how they taught. Many people shine once they have left formal education and gain appropriate qualifications in adulthood.
my friend left school with no qualifications. At 70 she has a nursing degree, another degree from OU, owns property and is still working at an Executive Officer for a very large worldwide Charity (St John - for which organisation she is a Member of the Order). She was voted Woman of the year for the state she lives in. One of her sons has his own company, the other holds down a very responsible job. You may have guessed that she does not live in this country, but was educated here, until she emigrated and decided to better herself. I am very proud of her. I sometimes think that teachers have their hands tied when it comes to teaching children nowadays - not all children learn from the same format and at one time teachers were in control of how they taught. Many people shine once they have left formal education and gain appropriate qualifications in adulthood. oftbewildered2
  • Score: 9

3:24pm Sun 16 Mar 14

Reebok Rhythm says...

I left school with no qualifications whatsoever! I believe I was failed by the school/teachers and curriculum. Anyway, I went to Wigan college where I sat my English exam and my qualifications gained momentum from then on. I have studied Advanced Psychology and Cognitive Behavioural Therapy with Oxford College gaining distinctions through-out and attaining straight A-grades for every module completed. I always had the potential but the environment was extremely unsettling at school.
I left school with no qualifications whatsoever! I believe I was failed by the school/teachers and curriculum. Anyway, I went to Wigan college where I sat my English exam and my qualifications gained momentum from then on. I have studied Advanced Psychology and Cognitive Behavioural Therapy with Oxford College gaining distinctions through-out and attaining straight A-grades for every module completed. I always had the potential but the environment was extremely unsettling at school. Reebok Rhythm
  • Score: -7

3:35pm Sun 16 Mar 14

Gore Seer says...

Lynn57 wrote:
Gore Seer wrote:
I Have No Qualification, I work In Engineering Milling, Lath, Turning, Drilling, Steel Office Furniture Fitter,Steel shelving Erector, A Upholster For The Dolomit Car, Quality Control Inspector, I Work At Walmsley's Foundry Were I Was A Hover Head Crane Driver The Crane Lifted Fifty Ton Of Molten Metal. I Work In The Mill Card Tenter, Scutcher Tenter,Heat Conditioner, Fork Lift Driver, Drivers Mate At White Arrow Parcel Dispatch Op Using Computer Control Parcel Incoming And Out Going,My Last Job Was At CRS Gaskets I Was Operating A Machine Making Gaskets, I Was The Fastest Gasket Producer,I Went In With Agency The Firm Took Me On Permanent, Ho Yes I Went To A Firm Plastic Extrusion I Learnt The Job I Went In Working For Agency A1 Plastics Took Me On Permanently, I Left School At 15 My Teacher Said I Be A Looser, I Was Dyslectic,Ho Yes I Work At Bolton Gate A Lift Fitter Ill Stop There.
Appalling grammar and use of context. How did you get through the educational system and are you really such a polymath?
I Have Never Been Employed For My Grammar Context,I Have Brought Four Kids Up Along The Way And They Have Never Been In Trouble With The Police.
[quote][p][bold]Lynn57[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gore Seer[/bold] wrote: I Have No Qualification, I work In Engineering Milling, Lath, Turning, Drilling, Steel Office Furniture Fitter,Steel shelving Erector, A Upholster For The Dolomit Car, Quality Control Inspector, I Work At Walmsley's Foundry Were I Was A Hover Head Crane Driver The Crane Lifted Fifty Ton Of Molten Metal. I Work In The Mill Card Tenter, Scutcher Tenter,Heat Conditioner, Fork Lift Driver, Drivers Mate At White Arrow Parcel Dispatch Op Using Computer Control Parcel Incoming And Out Going,My Last Job Was At CRS Gaskets I Was Operating A Machine Making Gaskets, I Was The Fastest Gasket Producer,I Went In With Agency The Firm Took Me On Permanent, Ho Yes I Went To A Firm Plastic Extrusion I Learnt The Job I Went In Working For Agency A1 Plastics Took Me On Permanently, I Left School At 15 My Teacher Said I Be A Looser, I Was Dyslectic,Ho Yes I Work At Bolton Gate A Lift Fitter Ill Stop There.[/p][/quote]Appalling grammar and use of context. How did you get through the educational system and are you really such a polymath?[/p][/quote]I Have Never Been Employed For My Grammar Context,I Have Brought Four Kids Up Along The Way And They Have Never Been In Trouble With The Police. Gore Seer
  • Score: 22

4:14pm Sun 16 Mar 14

melloj says...

MarkAllRead wrote:
steverock6@sky.com wrote:
I have 58 qualifications but still can't get a job because I am over 50 employers prefer younger people qualifications make little difference in the job market!
Seriously, look into starting your own company and you can be in total control of who you employ and what you do. You must have loads of experience at that age, just apply it to your own company, not someone else's.
That's exactly what I'm doing. At 38 I can't get a runner position at my age, they just want fresh faced Youngsters, so I've bought my own equipment and looking for my own work.
[quote][p][bold]MarkAllRead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]steverock6@sky.com[/bold] wrote: I have 58 qualifications but still can't get a job because I am over 50 employers prefer younger people qualifications make little difference in the job market![/p][/quote]Seriously, look into starting your own company and you can be in total control of who you employ and what you do. You must have loads of experience at that age, just apply it to your own company, not someone else's.[/p][/quote]That's exactly what I'm doing. At 38 I can't get a runner position at my age, they just want fresh faced Youngsters, so I've bought my own equipment and looking for my own work. melloj
  • Score: 0

4:26pm Sun 16 Mar 14

JustBecause says...

melloj wrote:
MarkAllRead wrote:
steverock6@sky.com wrote:
I have 58 qualifications but still can't get a job because I am over 50 employers prefer younger people qualifications make little difference in the job market!
Seriously, look into starting your own company and you can be in total control of who you employ and what you do. You must have loads of experience at that age, just apply it to your own company, not someone else's.
That's exactly what I'm doing. At 38 I can't get a runner position at my age, they just want fresh faced Youngsters, so I've bought my own equipment and looking for my own work.
Qualifications mean nothing. I recruit on ability and experience, my experience is that students with degrees tend to be useless, give me someone with a work ethic every single time.

To be honest 58 qualifications and no job currently would mean your CV would go in my bin.
[quote][p][bold]melloj[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MarkAllRead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]steverock6@sky.com[/bold] wrote: I have 58 qualifications but still can't get a job because I am over 50 employers prefer younger people qualifications make little difference in the job market![/p][/quote]Seriously, look into starting your own company and you can be in total control of who you employ and what you do. You must have loads of experience at that age, just apply it to your own company, not someone else's.[/p][/quote]That's exactly what I'm doing. At 38 I can't get a runner position at my age, they just want fresh faced Youngsters, so I've bought my own equipment and looking for my own work.[/p][/quote]Qualifications mean nothing. I recruit on ability and experience, my experience is that students with degrees tend to be useless, give me someone with a work ethic every single time. To be honest 58 qualifications and no job currently would mean your CV would go in my bin. JustBecause
  • Score: -24

4:27pm Sun 16 Mar 14

melloj says...

Gore Seer wrote:
I Have No Qualification, I work In Engineering Milling, Lath, Turning, Drilling, Steel Office Furniture Fitter,Steel shelving Erector, A Upholster For The Dolomit Car, Quality Control Inspector, I Work At Walmsley's Foundry Were I Was A Hover Head Crane Driver The Crane Lifted Fifty Ton Of Molten Metal. I Work In The Mill Card Tenter, Scutcher Tenter,Heat Conditioner, Fork Lift Driver, Drivers Mate At White Arrow Parcel Dispatch Op Using Computer Control Parcel Incoming And Out Going,My Last Job Was At CRS Gaskets I Was Operating A Machine Making Gaskets, I Was The Fastest Gasket Producer,I Went In With Agency The Firm Took Me On Permanent, Ho Yes I Went To A Firm Plastic Extrusion I Learnt The Job I Went In Working For Agency A1 Plastics Took Me On Permanently, I Left School At 15 My Teacher Said I Be A Looser, I Was Dyslectic,Ho Yes I Work At Bolton Gate A Lift Fitter Ill Stop There.
All those jobs you've had are all unskilled manual labour, low level jobs. So what point are you making?? That you didn't need qualifications? Your teacher wasn't that far off. Not saying your a loser but having muddled through your rambling text your trying to make out you've achieved something.
[quote][p][bold]Gore Seer[/bold] wrote: I Have No Qualification, I work In Engineering Milling, Lath, Turning, Drilling, Steel Office Furniture Fitter,Steel shelving Erector, A Upholster For The Dolomit Car, Quality Control Inspector, I Work At Walmsley's Foundry Were I Was A Hover Head Crane Driver The Crane Lifted Fifty Ton Of Molten Metal. I Work In The Mill Card Tenter, Scutcher Tenter,Heat Conditioner, Fork Lift Driver, Drivers Mate At White Arrow Parcel Dispatch Op Using Computer Control Parcel Incoming And Out Going,My Last Job Was At CRS Gaskets I Was Operating A Machine Making Gaskets, I Was The Fastest Gasket Producer,I Went In With Agency The Firm Took Me On Permanent, Ho Yes I Went To A Firm Plastic Extrusion I Learnt The Job I Went In Working For Agency A1 Plastics Took Me On Permanently, I Left School At 15 My Teacher Said I Be A Looser, I Was Dyslectic,Ho Yes I Work At Bolton Gate A Lift Fitter Ill Stop There.[/p][/quote]All those jobs you've had are all unskilled manual labour, low level jobs. So what point are you making?? That you didn't need qualifications? Your teacher wasn't that far off. Not saying your a loser but having muddled through your rambling text your trying to make out you've achieved something. melloj
  • Score: -21

5:18pm Sun 16 Mar 14

mr.mark.c says...

melloj wrote:
Gore Seer wrote:
I Have No Qualification, I work In Engineering Milling, Lath, Turning, Drilling, Steel Office Furniture Fitter,Steel shelving Erector, A Upholster For The Dolomit Car, Quality Control Inspector, I Work At Walmsley's Foundry Were I Was A Hover Head Crane Driver The Crane Lifted Fifty Ton Of Molten Metal. I Work In The Mill Card Tenter, Scutcher Tenter,Heat Conditioner, Fork Lift Driver, Drivers Mate At White Arrow Parcel Dispatch Op Using Computer Control Parcel Incoming And Out Going,My Last Job Was At CRS Gaskets I Was Operating A Machine Making Gaskets, I Was The Fastest Gasket Producer,I Went In With Agency The Firm Took Me On Permanent, Ho Yes I Went To A Firm Plastic Extrusion I Learnt The Job I Went In Working For Agency A1 Plastics Took Me On Permanently, I Left School At 15 My Teacher Said I Be A Looser, I Was Dyslectic,Ho Yes I Work At Bolton Gate A Lift Fitter Ill Stop There.
All those jobs you've had are all unskilled manual labour, low level jobs. So what point are you making?? That you didn't need qualifications? Your teacher wasn't that far off. Not saying your a loser but having muddled through your rambling text your trying to make out you've achieved something.
It's better than having 58 bits of paper and no job, I give the man 10/10 for effort in the real world.
[quote][p][bold]melloj[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gore Seer[/bold] wrote: I Have No Qualification, I work In Engineering Milling, Lath, Turning, Drilling, Steel Office Furniture Fitter,Steel shelving Erector, A Upholster For The Dolomit Car, Quality Control Inspector, I Work At Walmsley's Foundry Were I Was A Hover Head Crane Driver The Crane Lifted Fifty Ton Of Molten Metal. I Work In The Mill Card Tenter, Scutcher Tenter,Heat Conditioner, Fork Lift Driver, Drivers Mate At White Arrow Parcel Dispatch Op Using Computer Control Parcel Incoming And Out Going,My Last Job Was At CRS Gaskets I Was Operating A Machine Making Gaskets, I Was The Fastest Gasket Producer,I Went In With Agency The Firm Took Me On Permanent, Ho Yes I Went To A Firm Plastic Extrusion I Learnt The Job I Went In Working For Agency A1 Plastics Took Me On Permanently, I Left School At 15 My Teacher Said I Be A Looser, I Was Dyslectic,Ho Yes I Work At Bolton Gate A Lift Fitter Ill Stop There.[/p][/quote]All those jobs you've had are all unskilled manual labour, low level jobs. So what point are you making?? That you didn't need qualifications? Your teacher wasn't that far off. Not saying your a loser but having muddled through your rambling text your trying to make out you've achieved something.[/p][/quote]It's better than having 58 bits of paper and no job, I give the man 10/10 for effort in the real world. mr.mark.c
  • Score: 2

6:42pm Sun 16 Mar 14

Bolton Lad 85 says...

Gore Seer wrote:
Lynn57 wrote:
Gore Seer wrote:
I Have No Qualification, I work In Engineering Milling, Lath, Turning, Drilling, Steel Office Furniture Fitter,Steel shelving Erector, A Upholster For The Dolomit Car, Quality Control Inspector, I Work At Walmsley's Foundry Were I Was A Hover Head Crane Driver The Crane Lifted Fifty Ton Of Molten Metal. I Work In The Mill Card Tenter, Scutcher Tenter,Heat Conditioner, Fork Lift Driver, Drivers Mate At White Arrow Parcel Dispatch Op Using Computer Control Parcel Incoming And Out Going,My Last Job Was At CRS Gaskets I Was Operating A Machine Making Gaskets, I Was The Fastest Gasket Producer,I Went In With Agency The Firm Took Me On Permanent, Ho Yes I Went To A Firm Plastic Extrusion I Learnt The Job I Went In Working For Agency A1 Plastics Took Me On Permanently, I Left School At 15 My Teacher Said I Be A Looser, I Was Dyslectic,Ho Yes I Work At Bolton Gate A Lift Fitter Ill Stop There.
Appalling grammar and use of context. How did you get through the educational system and are you really such a polymath?
I Have Never Been Employed For My Grammar Context,I Have Brought Four Kids Up Along The Way And They Have Never Been In Trouble With The Police.
You don't need to start every word with a capital. You have the grammar of a 6 year old. Essentially you could not have had more menial jobs, yet act like some huge success. Maybe learn some grammar so you can educate your children. So they have a better chance in life. You should have higher aspirations for your kids than the fact they have not been in trouble with the police. How about they went to uni or do a job that a trained chimp couldn't do.

Also the guy with 58 qualification's. Firstly not all three will be appropriate for the job you are applying for. Secondly I imagine most are not worth the paper they are written on. Focus on achievements and success you have had with the application of this knowledge. Waving your certificates around will not impress a potential employer.
[quote][p][bold]Gore Seer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lynn57[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gore Seer[/bold] wrote: I Have No Qualification, I work In Engineering Milling, Lath, Turning, Drilling, Steel Office Furniture Fitter,Steel shelving Erector, A Upholster For The Dolomit Car, Quality Control Inspector, I Work At Walmsley's Foundry Were I Was A Hover Head Crane Driver The Crane Lifted Fifty Ton Of Molten Metal. I Work In The Mill Card Tenter, Scutcher Tenter,Heat Conditioner, Fork Lift Driver, Drivers Mate At White Arrow Parcel Dispatch Op Using Computer Control Parcel Incoming And Out Going,My Last Job Was At CRS Gaskets I Was Operating A Machine Making Gaskets, I Was The Fastest Gasket Producer,I Went In With Agency The Firm Took Me On Permanent, Ho Yes I Went To A Firm Plastic Extrusion I Learnt The Job I Went In Working For Agency A1 Plastics Took Me On Permanently, I Left School At 15 My Teacher Said I Be A Looser, I Was Dyslectic,Ho Yes I Work At Bolton Gate A Lift Fitter Ill Stop There.[/p][/quote]Appalling grammar and use of context. How did you get through the educational system and are you really such a polymath?[/p][/quote]I Have Never Been Employed For My Grammar Context,I Have Brought Four Kids Up Along The Way And They Have Never Been In Trouble With The Police.[/p][/quote]You don't need to start every word with a capital. You have the grammar of a 6 year old. Essentially you could not have had more menial jobs, yet act like some huge success. Maybe learn some grammar so you can educate your children. So they have a better chance in life. You should have higher aspirations for your kids than the fact they have not been in trouble with the police. How about they went to uni or do a job that a trained chimp couldn't do. Also the guy with 58 qualification's. Firstly not all three will be appropriate for the job you are applying for. Secondly I imagine most are not worth the paper they are written on. Focus on achievements and success you have had with the application of this knowledge. Waving your certificates around will not impress a potential employer. Bolton Lad 85
  • Score: 4

6:51pm Sun 16 Mar 14

p.rhanna says...

Work ethic and a Brain go a long way in the people who I employ.
Qualifications count for very little if you you are lazy and a waste of space!!
Work ethic and a Brain go a long way in the people who I employ. Qualifications count for very little if you you are lazy and a waste of space!! p.rhanna
  • Score: -31

7:49pm Sun 16 Mar 14

steverock6@sky.com says...

MarkAllRead wrote:
steverock6@sky.com wrote:
I have 58 qualifications but still can't get a job because I am over 50 employers prefer younger people qualifications make little difference in the job market!
Seriously, look into starting your own company and you can be in total control of who you employ and what you do. You must have loads of experience at that age, just apply it to your own company, not someone else's.
I would mate if I had something to specialise in and I would employ older people
[quote][p][bold]MarkAllRead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]steverock6@sky.com[/bold] wrote: I have 58 qualifications but still can't get a job because I am over 50 employers prefer younger people qualifications make little difference in the job market![/p][/quote]Seriously, look into starting your own company and you can be in total control of who you employ and what you do. You must have loads of experience at that age, just apply it to your own company, not someone else's.[/p][/quote]I would mate if I had something to specialise in and I would employ older people steverock6@sky.com
  • Score: 5

7:52pm Sun 16 Mar 14

steverock6@sky.com says...

JustBecause wrote:
melloj wrote:
MarkAllRead wrote:
steverock6@sky.com wrote:
I have 58 qualifications but still can't get a job because I am over 50 employers prefer younger people qualifications make little difference in the job market!
Seriously, look into starting your own company and you can be in total control of who you employ and what you do. You must have loads of experience at that age, just apply it to your own company, not someone else's.
That's exactly what I'm doing. At 38 I can't get a runner position at my age, they just want fresh faced Youngsters, so I've bought my own equipment and looking for my own work.
Qualifications mean nothing. I recruit on ability and experience, my experience is that students with degrees tend to be useless, give me someone with a work ethic every single time.

To be honest 58 qualifications and no job currently would mean your CV would go in my bin.
I have a strong worth ethic if you have any jobs going!
[quote][p][bold]JustBecause[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]melloj[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MarkAllRead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]steverock6@sky.com[/bold] wrote: I have 58 qualifications but still can't get a job because I am over 50 employers prefer younger people qualifications make little difference in the job market![/p][/quote]Seriously, look into starting your own company and you can be in total control of who you employ and what you do. You must have loads of experience at that age, just apply it to your own company, not someone else's.[/p][/quote]That's exactly what I'm doing. At 38 I can't get a runner position at my age, they just want fresh faced Youngsters, so I've bought my own equipment and looking for my own work.[/p][/quote]Qualifications mean nothing. I recruit on ability and experience, my experience is that students with degrees tend to be useless, give me someone with a work ethic every single time. To be honest 58 qualifications and no job currently would mean your CV would go in my bin.[/p][/quote]I have a strong worth ethic if you have any jobs going! steverock6@sky.com
  • Score: -2

7:55pm Sun 16 Mar 14

steverock6@sky.com says...

JustBecause wrote:
melloj wrote:
MarkAllRead wrote:
steverock6@sky.com wrote:
I have 58 qualifications but still can't get a job because I am over 50 employers prefer younger people qualifications make little difference in the job market!
Seriously, look into starting your own company and you can be in total control of who you employ and what you do. You must have loads of experience at that age, just apply it to your own company, not someone else's.
That's exactly what I'm doing. At 38 I can't get a runner position at my age, they just want fresh faced Youngsters, so I've bought my own equipment and looking for my own work.
Qualifications mean nothing. I recruit on ability and experience, my experience is that students with degrees tend to be useless, give me someone with a work ethic every single time.

To be honest 58 qualifications and no job currently would mean your CV would go in my bin.
I Haven't got a degree and left school with one qualification all the others I have done for employers or to give me a better chance of employment but you cannot get a qualification against prejudice and the general attitude of lots of employers!
[quote][p][bold]JustBecause[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]melloj[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MarkAllRead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]steverock6@sky.com[/bold] wrote: I have 58 qualifications but still can't get a job because I am over 50 employers prefer younger people qualifications make little difference in the job market![/p][/quote]Seriously, look into starting your own company and you can be in total control of who you employ and what you do. You must have loads of experience at that age, just apply it to your own company, not someone else's.[/p][/quote]That's exactly what I'm doing. At 38 I can't get a runner position at my age, they just want fresh faced Youngsters, so I've bought my own equipment and looking for my own work.[/p][/quote]Qualifications mean nothing. I recruit on ability and experience, my experience is that students with degrees tend to be useless, give me someone with a work ethic every single time. To be honest 58 qualifications and no job currently would mean your CV would go in my bin.[/p][/quote]I Haven't got a degree and left school with one qualification all the others I have done for employers or to give me a better chance of employment but you cannot get a qualification against prejudice and the general attitude of lots of employers! steverock6@sky.com
  • Score: -3

7:58pm Sun 16 Mar 14

steverock6@sky.com says...

p.rhanna wrote:
Work ethic and a Brain go a long way in the people who I employ.
Qualifications count for very little if you you are lazy and a waste of space!!
I bet your workforce really like you but to me you are the kind of narrow minded employer that drags this country down
[quote][p][bold]p.rhanna[/bold] wrote: Work ethic and a Brain go a long way in the people who I employ. Qualifications count for very little if you you are lazy and a waste of space!![/p][/quote]I bet your workforce really like you but to me you are the kind of narrow minded employer that drags this country down steverock6@sky.com
  • Score: -1

8:33pm Sun 16 Mar 14

owencoyle99 says...

Gore Seer wrote:
I Have No Qualification, I work In Engineering Milling, Lath, Turning, Drilling, Steel Office Furniture Fitter,Steel shelving Erector, A Upholster For The Dolomit Car, Quality Control Inspector, I Work At Walmsley's Foundry Were I Was A Hover Head Crane Driver The Crane Lifted Fifty Ton Of Molten Metal. I Work In The Mill Card Tenter, Scutcher Tenter,Heat Conditioner, Fork Lift Driver, Drivers Mate At White Arrow Parcel Dispatch Op Using Computer Control Parcel Incoming And Out Going,My Last Job Was At CRS Gaskets I Was Operating A Machine Making Gaskets, I Was The Fastest Gasket Producer,I Went In With Agency The Firm Took Me On Permanent, Ho Yes I Went To A Firm Plastic Extrusion I Learnt The Job I Went In Working For Agency A1 Plastics Took Me On Permanently, I Left School At 15 My Teacher Said I Be A Looser, I Was Dyslectic,Ho Yes I Work At Bolton Gate A Lift Fitter Ill Stop There.
Sounds like Jack of all trades and skilled at none
[quote][p][bold]Gore Seer[/bold] wrote: I Have No Qualification, I work In Engineering Milling, Lath, Turning, Drilling, Steel Office Furniture Fitter,Steel shelving Erector, A Upholster For The Dolomit Car, Quality Control Inspector, I Work At Walmsley's Foundry Were I Was A Hover Head Crane Driver The Crane Lifted Fifty Ton Of Molten Metal. I Work In The Mill Card Tenter, Scutcher Tenter,Heat Conditioner, Fork Lift Driver, Drivers Mate At White Arrow Parcel Dispatch Op Using Computer Control Parcel Incoming And Out Going,My Last Job Was At CRS Gaskets I Was Operating A Machine Making Gaskets, I Was The Fastest Gasket Producer,I Went In With Agency The Firm Took Me On Permanent, Ho Yes I Went To A Firm Plastic Extrusion I Learnt The Job I Went In Working For Agency A1 Plastics Took Me On Permanently, I Left School At 15 My Teacher Said I Be A Looser, I Was Dyslectic,Ho Yes I Work At Bolton Gate A Lift Fitter Ill Stop There.[/p][/quote]Sounds like Jack of all trades and skilled at none owencoyle99
  • Score: 5

9:17pm Sun 16 Mar 14

bwfcsmum says...

Gore Seer wrote:
Lynn57 wrote:
Gore Seer wrote:
I Have No Qualification, I work In Engineering Milling, Lath, Turning, Drilling, Steel Office Furniture Fitter,Steel shelving Erector, A Upholster For The Dolomit Car, Quality Control Inspector, I Work At Walmsley's Foundry Were I Was A Hover Head Crane Driver The Crane Lifted Fifty Ton Of Molten Metal. I Work In The Mill Card Tenter, Scutcher Tenter,Heat Conditioner, Fork Lift Driver, Drivers Mate At White Arrow Parcel Dispatch Op Using Computer Control Parcel Incoming And Out Going,My Last Job Was At CRS Gaskets I Was Operating A Machine Making Gaskets, I Was The Fastest Gasket Producer,I Went In With Agency The Firm Took Me On Permanent, Ho Yes I Went To A Firm Plastic Extrusion I Learnt The Job I Went In Working For Agency A1 Plastics Took Me On Permanently, I Left School At 15 My Teacher Said I Be A Looser, I Was Dyslectic,Ho Yes I Work At Bolton Gate A Lift Fitter Ill Stop There.
Appalling grammar and use of context. How did you get through the educational system and are you really such a polymath?
I Have Never Been Employed For My Grammar Context,I Have Brought Four Kids Up Along The Way And They Have Never Been In Trouble With The Police.
what does Ho mean ???
[quote][p][bold]Gore Seer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lynn57[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gore Seer[/bold] wrote: I Have No Qualification, I work In Engineering Milling, Lath, Turning, Drilling, Steel Office Furniture Fitter,Steel shelving Erector, A Upholster For The Dolomit Car, Quality Control Inspector, I Work At Walmsley's Foundry Were I Was A Hover Head Crane Driver The Crane Lifted Fifty Ton Of Molten Metal. I Work In The Mill Card Tenter, Scutcher Tenter,Heat Conditioner, Fork Lift Driver, Drivers Mate At White Arrow Parcel Dispatch Op Using Computer Control Parcel Incoming And Out Going,My Last Job Was At CRS Gaskets I Was Operating A Machine Making Gaskets, I Was The Fastest Gasket Producer,I Went In With Agency The Firm Took Me On Permanent, Ho Yes I Went To A Firm Plastic Extrusion I Learnt The Job I Went In Working For Agency A1 Plastics Took Me On Permanently, I Left School At 15 My Teacher Said I Be A Looser, I Was Dyslectic,Ho Yes I Work At Bolton Gate A Lift Fitter Ill Stop There.[/p][/quote]Appalling grammar and use of context. How did you get through the educational system and are you really such a polymath?[/p][/quote]I Have Never Been Employed For My Grammar Context,I Have Brought Four Kids Up Along The Way And They Have Never Been In Trouble With The Police.[/p][/quote]what does Ho mean ??? bwfcsmum
  • Score: 0

7:50am Mon 17 Mar 14

JustBecause says...

steverock6@sky.com wrote:
p.rhanna wrote:
Work ethic and a Brain go a long way in the people who I employ.
Qualifications count for very little if you you are lazy and a waste of space!!
I bet your workforce really like you but to me you are the kind of narrow minded employer that drags this country down
Why? People are there to do. A job, it's not a free ride or a holiday, if you work for me I expect two things, the ability to do the job, and the attitude to get the job done, I have no time for or money for people who think they are entitled to a job.

And before you ask, I have the best team ever, we have a great time and we all work together, it took a lot of finding and we have got rid of plenty of people on the way.

As said before the paper is wrong in its figures and should be doing better to help Bolton not drag it down.
[quote][p][bold]steverock6@sky.com[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]p.rhanna[/bold] wrote: Work ethic and a Brain go a long way in the people who I employ. Qualifications count for very little if you you are lazy and a waste of space!![/p][/quote]I bet your workforce really like you but to me you are the kind of narrow minded employer that drags this country down[/p][/quote]Why? People are there to do. A job, it's not a free ride or a holiday, if you work for me I expect two things, the ability to do the job, and the attitude to get the job done, I have no time for or money for people who think they are entitled to a job. And before you ask, I have the best team ever, we have a great time and we all work together, it took a lot of finding and we have got rid of plenty of people on the way. As said before the paper is wrong in its figures and should be doing better to help Bolton not drag it down. JustBecause
  • Score: 1

8:49am Mon 17 Mar 14

p.rhanna says...

steverock6@sky.com wrote:
p.rhanna wrote:
Work ethic and a Brain go a long way in the people who I employ.
Qualifications count for very little if you you are lazy and a waste of space!!
I bet your workforce really like you but to me you are the kind of narrow minded employer that drags this country down
Narrow Minded as in what?
You are obviously devoid of any intelligence writing statements like that!.
And a Brain....!
[quote][p][bold]steverock6@sky.com[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]p.rhanna[/bold] wrote: Work ethic and a Brain go a long way in the people who I employ. Qualifications count for very little if you you are lazy and a waste of space!![/p][/quote]I bet your workforce really like you but to me you are the kind of narrow minded employer that drags this country down[/p][/quote]Narrow Minded as in what? You are obviously devoid of any intelligence writing statements like that!. And a Brain....! p.rhanna
  • Score: 0

9:02am Mon 17 Mar 14

p.rhanna says...

JustBecause wrote:
steverock6@sky.com wrote:
p.rhanna wrote:
Work ethic and a Brain go a long way in the people who I employ.
Qualifications count for very little if you you are lazy and a waste of space!!
I bet your workforce really like you but to me you are the kind of narrow minded employer that drags this country down
Why? People are there to do. A job, it's not a free ride or a holiday, if you work for me I expect two things, the ability to do the job, and the attitude to get the job done, I have no time for or money for people who think they are entitled to a job.

And before you ask, I have the best team ever, we have a great time and we all work together, it took a lot of finding and we have got rid of plenty of people on the way.

As said before the paper is wrong in its figures and should be doing better to help Bolton not drag it down.
Great reply to Stevecock!
It makes no difference if your over 50 to get a job or not IF you have the right attitude and skill for the job...stevecock you say you have 58 qualifications....in what? Do you consider yourself too qualified for a job that you think is below you.....because you know what, my daughter who recently left school has a job ..... part time while she studies...its not difficult!.. I know of people who need staff urgently in full time jobs, try changing your attitude and thinking the world owes you a living because it doesnt.....get off your backside and do something about it.....!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]JustBecause[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]steverock6@sky.com[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]p.rhanna[/bold] wrote: Work ethic and a Brain go a long way in the people who I employ. Qualifications count for very little if you you are lazy and a waste of space!![/p][/quote]I bet your workforce really like you but to me you are the kind of narrow minded employer that drags this country down[/p][/quote]Why? People are there to do. A job, it's not a free ride or a holiday, if you work for me I expect two things, the ability to do the job, and the attitude to get the job done, I have no time for or money for people who think they are entitled to a job. And before you ask, I have the best team ever, we have a great time and we all work together, it took a lot of finding and we have got rid of plenty of people on the way. As said before the paper is wrong in its figures and should be doing better to help Bolton not drag it down.[/p][/quote]Great reply to Stevecock! It makes no difference if your over 50 to get a job or not IF you have the right attitude and skill for the job...stevecock you say you have 58 qualifications....in what? Do you consider yourself too qualified for a job that you think is below you.....because you know what, my daughter who recently left school has a job ..... part time while she studies...its not difficult!.. I know of people who need staff urgently in full time jobs, try changing your attitude and thinking the world owes you a living because it doesnt.....get off your backside and do something about it.....!!!!! p.rhanna
  • Score: 5

9:03am Mon 17 Mar 14

p.rhanna says...

steverock6@sky.com wrote:
I have 58 qualifications but still can't get a job because I am over 50 employers prefer younger people qualifications make little difference in the job market!
Rubbish !!
[quote][p][bold]steverock6@sky.com[/bold] wrote: I have 58 qualifications but still can't get a job because I am over 50 employers prefer younger people qualifications make little difference in the job market![/p][/quote]Rubbish !! p.rhanna
  • Score: 3

10:13am Mon 17 Mar 14

MarkP27 says...

steverock6@sky.com wrote:
I have 58 qualifications but still can't get a job because I am over 50 employers prefer younger people qualifications make little difference in the job market!
Last week, you posted a message complaining about road closures for the Ironman event stating that these inconvenienced you in getting to work. Now you don't have a job???
Is one of your 58 qualifications in Lying??????
[quote][p][bold]steverock6@sky.com[/bold] wrote: I have 58 qualifications but still can't get a job because I am over 50 employers prefer younger people qualifications make little difference in the job market![/p][/quote]Last week, you posted a message complaining about road closures for the Ironman event stating that these inconvenienced you in getting to work. Now you don't have a job??? Is one of your 58 qualifications in Lying?????? MarkP27
  • Score: 6

11:26am Mon 17 Mar 14

p.rhanna says...

MarkP27 wrote:
steverock6@sky.com wrote:
I have 58 qualifications but still can't get a job because I am over 50 employers prefer younger people qualifications make little difference in the job market!
Last week, you posted a message complaining about road closures for the Ironman event stating that these inconvenienced you in getting to work. Now you don't have a job???
Is one of your 58 qualifications in Lying??????
LOL....... Classic !!
[quote][p][bold]MarkP27[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]steverock6@sky.com[/bold] wrote: I have 58 qualifications but still can't get a job because I am over 50 employers prefer younger people qualifications make little difference in the job market![/p][/quote]Last week, you posted a message complaining about road closures for the Ironman event stating that these inconvenienced you in getting to work. Now you don't have a job??? Is one of your 58 qualifications in Lying??????[/p][/quote]LOL....... Classic !! p.rhanna
  • Score: 6

1:04pm Mon 17 Mar 14

berushka says...

If I didn't have any recognised qualifications I would not be too worried, as many people in a similar situation seem to do very well working in the Town Hall! Unfortunately, Bolton has a very high rate of that rare disease, occupational malady, or to put it in plain English, work makes them sick!
I have, and will, employ anyone who has an aptitude for good work, is reliable, honest and willing to learn, and does not threaten to go on strike a few months after begging me to take him or her on. Qualifications, in my opinion are often just a bonus, but not a necessity. Remember the Boys from the black stuff? Go on, mate, give us a job! Those who ignored this man lost the chance of employing a very hard worker, and is typical of today's no paper, no job mentality.
If I didn't have any recognised qualifications I would not be too worried, as many people in a similar situation seem to do very well working in the Town Hall! Unfortunately, Bolton has a very high rate of that rare disease, occupational malady, or to put it in plain English, work makes them sick! I have, and will, employ anyone who has an aptitude for good work, is reliable, honest and willing to learn, and does not threaten to go on strike a few months after begging me to take him or her on. Qualifications, in my opinion are often just a bonus, but not a necessity. Remember the Boys from the black stuff? Go on, mate, give us a job! Those who ignored this man lost the chance of employing a very hard worker, and is typical of today's no paper, no job mentality. berushka
  • Score: 2

6:37pm Mon 17 Mar 14

lv8151 says...

NHLUFC wrote:
cranks wrote:
no surprises there then as i would guess that one in every 10 cant even speak english properly in this town despite being here all there lives or for donkey's years....
I wouldn't recommend "one in 10" either, use numbers or words, it's not good grammar to mix them.

I was taught English by a lovely, well spoken Asian lady. Perhaps I could introduce you?
“Grammar Pedantry Syndrome” is a form of OCD in which sufferers need to correct every grammatical error.
[quote][p][bold]NHLUFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cranks[/bold] wrote: no surprises there then as i would guess that one in every 10 cant even speak english properly in this town despite being here all there lives or for donkey's years....[/p][/quote]I wouldn't recommend "one in 10" either, use numbers or words, it's not good grammar to mix them. I was taught English by a lovely, well spoken Asian lady. Perhaps I could introduce you?[/p][/quote]“Grammar Pedantry Syndrome” is a form of OCD in which sufferers need to correct every grammatical error. lv8151
  • Score: 3

6:42pm Mon 17 Mar 14

lv8151 says...

Reality50 wrote:
Half of the under 30's these days seem to have brains addled with cannabis so no surprise at these figures.
and your proof would be ..... oh you don't have any ..... just another figure plucked from the sky and connected to a substance you know very little if anything about
[quote][p][bold]Reality50[/bold] wrote: Half of the under 30's these days seem to have brains addled with cannabis so no surprise at these figures.[/p][/quote]and your proof would be ..... oh you don't have any ..... just another figure plucked from the sky and connected to a substance you know very little if anything about lv8151
  • Score: 2

6:43pm Mon 17 Mar 14

lv8151 says...

JustBecause wrote:
BN your figures are wrong and paint Bolton in a dim light, which it is capable of doing on its own without your help.

The actual figure of 13.5 % of working age people have not reported to having any education certification is a long way off 1 in 5 it should be being reported as nearly 1 in 7


Would it not be a better story to say 1 in 4 are educated to nvq level 4 or above, (degree level) or that 42.3% where level 3 nvq ( A level)
nvq = not very qualified
[quote][p][bold]JustBecause[/bold] wrote: BN your figures are wrong and paint Bolton in a dim light, which it is capable of doing on its own without your help. The actual figure of 13.5 % of working age people have not reported to having any education certification is a long way off 1 in 5 it should be being reported as nearly 1 in 7 Would it not be a better story to say 1 in 4 are educated to nvq level 4 or above, (degree level) or that 42.3% where level 3 nvq ( A level)[/p][/quote]nvq = not very qualified lv8151
  • Score: 1

7:45pm Mon 17 Mar 14

lv8151 says...

NHLUFC wrote:
cranks wrote:
no surprises there then as i would guess that one in every 10 cant even speak english properly in this town despite being here all there lives or for donkey's years....
It's "can't" "No" and "I" by the way.
“Grammar Pedantry Syndrome” is a form of OCD in which sufferers need to correct every grammatical error.
[quote][p][bold]NHLUFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cranks[/bold] wrote: no surprises there then as i would guess that one in every 10 cant even speak english properly in this town despite being here all there lives or for donkey's years....[/p][/quote]It's "can't" "No" and "I" by the way.[/p][/quote]“Grammar Pedantry Syndrome” is a form of OCD in which sufferers need to correct every grammatical error. lv8151
  • Score: 0

7:46pm Mon 17 Mar 14

lv8151 says...

NHLUFC wrote:
cranks wrote:
no surprises there then as i would guess that one in every 10 cant even speak english properly in this town despite being here all there lives or for donkey's years....
You could start by teaching them their and there once you've got it sorted out yourself. Oh and English starts with an E.
“Grammar Pedantry Syndrome” is a form of OCD in which sufferers need to correct every grammatical error.
[quote][p][bold]NHLUFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cranks[/bold] wrote: no surprises there then as i would guess that one in every 10 cant even speak english properly in this town despite being here all there lives or for donkey's years....[/p][/quote]You could start by teaching them their and there once you've got it sorted out yourself. Oh and English starts with an E.[/p][/quote]“Grammar Pedantry Syndrome” is a form of OCD in which sufferers need to correct every grammatical error. lv8151
  • Score: 0

8:46pm Mon 17 Mar 14

Bazzerd says...

Only comment that won't get me banned off here is....
..that Qualificationsand certificates do not neccessarily mean intelligence...and vice versa.
only the 'intelligent ' people will understand this and not post 'flaming' responses.
BazzA
Only comment that won't get me banned off here is.... ..that Qualificationsand certificates do not neccessarily mean intelligence...and vice versa. only the 'intelligent ' people will understand this and not post 'flaming' responses. BazzA Bazzerd
  • Score: 1

10:04pm Mon 17 Mar 14

Gore Seer says...

melloj wrote:
Gore Seer wrote:
I Have No Qualification, I work In Engineering Milling, Lath, Turning, Drilling, Steel Office Furniture Fitter,Steel shelving Erector, A Upholster For The Dolomit Car, Quality Control Inspector, I Work At Walmsley's Foundry Were I Was A Hover Head Crane Driver The Crane Lifted Fifty Ton Of Molten Metal. I Work In The Mill Card Tenter, Scutcher Tenter,Heat Conditioner, Fork Lift Driver, Drivers Mate At White Arrow Parcel Dispatch Op Using Computer Control Parcel Incoming And Out Going,My Last Job Was At CRS Gaskets I Was Operating A Machine Making Gaskets, I Was The Fastest Gasket Producer,I Went In With Agency The Firm Took Me On Permanent, Ho Yes I Went To A Firm Plastic Extrusion I Learnt The Job I Went In Working For Agency A1 Plastics Took Me On Permanently, I Left School At 15 My Teacher Said I Be A Looser, I Was Dyslectic,Ho Yes I Work At Bolton Gate A Lift Fitter Ill Stop There.
All those jobs you've had are all unskilled manual labour, low level jobs. So what point are you making?? That you didn't need qualifications? Your teacher wasn't that far off. Not saying your a loser but having muddled through your rambling text your trying to make out you've achieved something.
I Worked At Ainsworth Bleach Works, Belmont Paper Mill,Lorival At Little Lever, Haslams Metal Bending, Bronx Powders,All Operating Machinery, And I Ran My Own Business I Am A Total Failure.
[quote][p][bold]melloj[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gore Seer[/bold] wrote: I Have No Qualification, I work In Engineering Milling, Lath, Turning, Drilling, Steel Office Furniture Fitter,Steel shelving Erector, A Upholster For The Dolomit Car, Quality Control Inspector, I Work At Walmsley's Foundry Were I Was A Hover Head Crane Driver The Crane Lifted Fifty Ton Of Molten Metal. I Work In The Mill Card Tenter, Scutcher Tenter,Heat Conditioner, Fork Lift Driver, Drivers Mate At White Arrow Parcel Dispatch Op Using Computer Control Parcel Incoming And Out Going,My Last Job Was At CRS Gaskets I Was Operating A Machine Making Gaskets, I Was The Fastest Gasket Producer,I Went In With Agency The Firm Took Me On Permanent, Ho Yes I Went To A Firm Plastic Extrusion I Learnt The Job I Went In Working For Agency A1 Plastics Took Me On Permanently, I Left School At 15 My Teacher Said I Be A Looser, I Was Dyslectic,Ho Yes I Work At Bolton Gate A Lift Fitter Ill Stop There.[/p][/quote]All those jobs you've had are all unskilled manual labour, low level jobs. So what point are you making?? That you didn't need qualifications? Your teacher wasn't that far off. Not saying your a loser but having muddled through your rambling text your trying to make out you've achieved something.[/p][/quote]I Worked At Ainsworth Bleach Works, Belmont Paper Mill,Lorival At Little Lever, Haslams Metal Bending, Bronx Powders,All Operating Machinery, And I Ran My Own Business I Am A Total Failure. Gore Seer
  • Score: 1

10:37pm Mon 17 Mar 14

keithyno.1 says...

Gore Seer, is there any firm in Bolton you HAVEN'T worked for?? Just wondered...
Gore Seer, is there any firm in Bolton you HAVEN'T worked for?? Just wondered... keithyno.1
  • Score: 2

8:39am Tue 18 Mar 14

Gore Seer says...

keithyno.1 wrote:
Gore Seer, is there any firm in Bolton you HAVEN'T worked for?? Just wondered...
I Was A Gas Lamp Attendant For Council, And I Was A Foam Laminator For Afra Foams In Pike Mill,And I Work At Ryder Bros Folds Road Semi Skilled Machine Op.
[quote][p][bold]keithyno.1[/bold] wrote: Gore Seer, is there any firm in Bolton you HAVEN'T worked for?? Just wondered...[/p][/quote]I Was A Gas Lamp Attendant For Council, And I Was A Foam Laminator For Afra Foams In Pike Mill,And I Work At Ryder Bros Folds Road Semi Skilled Machine Op. Gore Seer
  • Score: 0

9:51am Tue 18 Mar 14

Darren1951 says...

lv8151 wrote:
NHLUFC wrote:
cranks wrote:
no surprises there then as i would guess that one in every 10 cant even speak english properly in this town despite being here all there lives or for donkey's years....
I wouldn't recommend "one in 10" either, use numbers or words, it's not good grammar to mix them.

I was taught English by a lovely, well spoken Asian lady. Perhaps I could introduce you?
“Grammar Pedantry Syndrome” is a form of OCD in which sufferers need to correct every grammatical error.
Are it?
[quote][p][bold]lv8151[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NHLUFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cranks[/bold] wrote: no surprises there then as i would guess that one in every 10 cant even speak english properly in this town despite being here all there lives or for donkey's years....[/p][/quote]I wouldn't recommend "one in 10" either, use numbers or words, it's not good grammar to mix them. I was taught English by a lovely, well spoken Asian lady. Perhaps I could introduce you?[/p][/quote]“Grammar Pedantry Syndrome” is a form of OCD in which sufferers need to correct every grammatical error.[/p][/quote]Are it? Darren1951
  • Score: 1

4:57pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Jim271 says...

Third Generation of the Thatcher Years, written off at an early age.
Third Generation of the Thatcher Years, written off at an early age. Jim271
  • Score: 1

10:50pm Tue 18 Mar 14

vicric87 says...

Does it really matter? Surely its down to you skills and you don't need qualifications to show those. My partner doesn't have any and he's high up in a really well paid job. A friend of mine from school has uni degrees and she's struggling to find work in the areas she's qualified in. You just have to be determined and willing to work your way up.
Does it really matter? Surely its down to you skills and you don't need qualifications to show those. My partner doesn't have any and he's high up in a really well paid job. A friend of mine from school has uni degrees and she's struggling to find work in the areas she's qualified in. You just have to be determined and willing to work your way up. vicric87
  • Score: 0

2:07pm Thu 20 Mar 14

MarkAllRead says...

Gore Seer wrote:
keithyno.1 wrote:
Gore Seer, is there any firm in Bolton you HAVEN'T worked for?? Just wondered...
I Was A Gas Lamp Attendant For Council, And I Was A Foam Laminator For Afra Foams In Pike Mill,And I Work At Ryder Bros Folds Road Semi Skilled Machine Op.
It's starting to sound like you couldn't hold down a job for very long.
[quote][p][bold]Gore Seer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]keithyno.1[/bold] wrote: Gore Seer, is there any firm in Bolton you HAVEN'T worked for?? Just wondered...[/p][/quote]I Was A Gas Lamp Attendant For Council, And I Was A Foam Laminator For Afra Foams In Pike Mill,And I Work At Ryder Bros Folds Road Semi Skilled Machine Op.[/p][/quote]It's starting to sound like you couldn't hold down a job for very long. MarkAllRead
  • Score: 2

7:34pm Fri 21 Mar 14

davroduk says...

No none has picked up on the basic English language mistake.
"Has no" qualifications.
You cannot have nothing.
You either have something, or you do not have anything.
"Has no" is poor English Language, and this is not just confined to The Bolton News, but is widespread throughout the media today.
The correct headline should have read.....
One in five people in Bolton do not have any qualifications.
Basic English.
Not friggin rocket science is it ????
No none has picked up on the basic English language mistake. "Has no" qualifications. You cannot have nothing. You either have something, or you do not have anything. "Has no" is poor English Language, and this is not just confined to The Bolton News, but is widespread throughout the media today. The correct headline should have read..... One in five people in Bolton do not have any qualifications. Basic English. Not friggin rocket science is it ???? davroduk
  • Score: 0

7:52pm Fri 21 Mar 14

mr.mark.c says...

Bazzerd wrote:
Only comment that won't get me banned off here is....
..that Qualificationsand certificates do not neccessarily mean intelligence...and vice versa.
only the 'intelligent ' people will understand this and not post 'flaming' responses.
BazzA
I know some people that do not have any formal qualifications but could take a car engine apart and put it back together blindfold, I also know people with many qualifications that can't wire a plug.
So yup, I agree 100% there Bazza.
[quote][p][bold]Bazzerd[/bold] wrote: Only comment that won't get me banned off here is.... ..that Qualificationsand certificates do not neccessarily mean intelligence...and vice versa. only the 'intelligent ' people will understand this and not post 'flaming' responses. BazzA[/p][/quote]I know some people that do not have any formal qualifications but could take a car engine apart and put it back together blindfold, I also know people with many qualifications that can't wire a plug. So yup, I agree 100% there Bazza. mr.mark.c
  • Score: 2

7:56pm Fri 21 Mar 14

mr.mark.c says...

davroduk wrote:
No none has picked up on the basic English language mistake.
"Has no" qualifications.
You cannot have nothing.
You either have something, or you do not have anything.
"Has no" is poor English Language, and this is not just confined to The Bolton News, but is widespread throughout the media today.
The correct headline should have read.....
One in five people in Bolton do not have any qualifications.
Basic English.
Not friggin rocket science is it ????
It's time like this that you wish you had read your own comment before clicking, nobody is perfect :)
.
Could we have an edit button please Julian ?
[quote][p][bold]davroduk[/bold] wrote: No none has picked up on the basic English language mistake. "Has no" qualifications. You cannot have nothing. You either have something, or you do not have anything. "Has no" is poor English Language, and this is not just confined to The Bolton News, but is widespread throughout the media today. The correct headline should have read..... One in five people in Bolton do not have any qualifications. Basic English. Not friggin rocket science is it ????[/p][/quote]It's time like this that you wish you had read your own comment before clicking, nobody is perfect :) . Could we have an edit button please Julian ? mr.mark.c
  • Score: -1

8:10pm Fri 21 Mar 14

davroduk says...

mr.mark.c wrote:
davroduk wrote:
No none has picked up on the basic English language mistake.
"Has no" qualifications.
You cannot have nothing.
You either have something, or you do not have anything.
"Has no" is poor English Language, and this is not just confined to The Bolton News, but is widespread throughout the media today.
The correct headline should have read.....
One in five people in Bolton do not have any qualifications.
Basic English.
Not friggin rocket science is it ????
It's time like this that you wish you had read your own comment before clicking, nobody is perfect :)
.
Could we have an edit button please Julian ?
Please enlighten me.
[quote][p][bold]mr.mark.c[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]davroduk[/bold] wrote: No none has picked up on the basic English language mistake. "Has no" qualifications. You cannot have nothing. You either have something, or you do not have anything. "Has no" is poor English Language, and this is not just confined to The Bolton News, but is widespread throughout the media today. The correct headline should have read..... One in five people in Bolton do not have any qualifications. Basic English. Not friggin rocket science is it ????[/p][/quote]It's time like this that you wish you had read your own comment before clicking, nobody is perfect :) . Could we have an edit button please Julian ?[/p][/quote]Please enlighten me. davroduk
  • Score: 1

8:16pm Fri 21 Mar 14

davroduk says...

Ahh yes I put "has no" instead of "have no"
Well spotted.
Ahh yes I put "has no" instead of "have no" Well spotted. davroduk
  • Score: 3

8:19pm Fri 21 Mar 14

mr.mark.c says...

davroduk wrote:
mr.mark.c wrote:
davroduk wrote:
No none has picked up on the basic English language mistake.
"Has no" qualifications.
You cannot have nothing.
You either have something, or you do not have anything.
"Has no" is poor English Language, and this is not just confined to The Bolton News, but is widespread throughout the media today.
The correct headline should have read.....
One in five people in Bolton do not have any qualifications.
Basic English.
Not friggin rocket science is it ????
It's time like this that you wish you had read your own comment before clicking, nobody is perfect :)
.
Could we have an edit button please Julian ?
Please enlighten me.
Your first line and the use of full stops rather than comma's, and yes I failed English at school, writing in a Bolton accent was an epic fail for me.
[quote][p][bold]davroduk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mr.mark.c[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]davroduk[/bold] wrote: No none has picked up on the basic English language mistake. "Has no" qualifications. You cannot have nothing. You either have something, or you do not have anything. "Has no" is poor English Language, and this is not just confined to The Bolton News, but is widespread throughout the media today. The correct headline should have read..... One in five people in Bolton do not have any qualifications. Basic English. Not friggin rocket science is it ????[/p][/quote]It's time like this that you wish you had read your own comment before clicking, nobody is perfect :) . Could we have an edit button please Julian ?[/p][/quote]Please enlighten me.[/p][/quote]Your first line and the use of full stops rather than comma's, and yes I failed English at school, writing in a Bolton accent was an epic fail for me. mr.mark.c
  • Score: -1

8:43pm Fri 21 Mar 14

davroduk says...

mr.mark.c wrote:
davroduk wrote:
mr.mark.c wrote:
davroduk wrote:
No none has picked up on the basic English language mistake.
"Has no" qualifications.
You cannot have nothing.
You either have something, or you do not have anything.
"Has no" is poor English Language, and this is not just confined to The Bolton News, but is widespread throughout the media today.
The correct headline should have read.....
One in five people in Bolton do not have any qualifications.
Basic English.
Not friggin rocket science is it ????
It's time like this that you wish you had read your own comment before clicking, nobody is perfect :)
.
Could we have an edit button please Julian ?
Please enlighten me.
Your first line and the use of full stops rather than comma's, and yes I failed English at school, writing in a Bolton accent was an epic fail for me.
I am Bolton, born and bred, thats why I write in a Bolton accent.
I didnt make out in my post that I was perfect, but that the headline was not 100% correct, acording to the English language.
My first line contains the word "none"instead of "one" (too much beer)
Notice too with two o's not one.
I am just pointing out that today the media do not use the English language as they should.
I did not, and do not, claim to be perfect, but think that the media have an obligation to use the correct (bloody hell got to think what In write) English language and Grammar. (Phew)
[quote][p][bold]mr.mark.c[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]davroduk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mr.mark.c[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]davroduk[/bold] wrote: No none has picked up on the basic English language mistake. "Has no" qualifications. You cannot have nothing. You either have something, or you do not have anything. "Has no" is poor English Language, and this is not just confined to The Bolton News, but is widespread throughout the media today. The correct headline should have read..... One in five people in Bolton do not have any qualifications. Basic English. Not friggin rocket science is it ????[/p][/quote]It's time like this that you wish you had read your own comment before clicking, nobody is perfect :) . Could we have an edit button please Julian ?[/p][/quote]Please enlighten me.[/p][/quote]Your first line and the use of full stops rather than comma's, and yes I failed English at school, writing in a Bolton accent was an epic fail for me.[/p][/quote]I am Bolton, born and bred, thats why I write in a Bolton accent. I didnt make out in my post that I was perfect, but that the headline was not 100% correct, acording to the English language. My first line contains the word "none"instead of "one" (too much beer) Notice too with two o's not one. I am just pointing out that today the media do not use the English language as they should. I did not, and do not, claim to be perfect, but think that the media have an obligation to use the correct (bloody hell got to think what In write) English language and Grammar. (Phew) davroduk
  • Score: 0

9:07pm Fri 21 Mar 14

davroduk says...

davroduk wrote:
mr.mark.c wrote:
davroduk wrote:
mr.mark.c wrote:
davroduk wrote:
No none has picked up on the basic English language mistake.
"Has no" qualifications.
You cannot have nothing.
You either have something, or you do not have anything.
"Has no" is poor English Language, and this is not just confined to The Bolton News, but is widespread throughout the media today.
The correct headline should have read.....
One in five people in Bolton do not have any qualifications.
Basic English.
Not friggin rocket science is it ????
It's time like this that you wish you had read your own comment before clicking, nobody is perfect :)
.
Could we have an edit button please Julian ?
Please enlighten me.
Your first line and the use of full stops rather than comma's, and yes I failed English at school, writing in a Bolton accent was an epic fail for me.
I am Bolton, born and bred, thats why I write in a Bolton accent.
I didnt make out in my post that I was perfect, but that the headline was not 100% correct, acording to the English language.
My first line contains the word "none"instead of "one" (too much beer)
Notice too with two o's not one.
I am just pointing out that today the media do not use the English language as they should.
I did not, and do not, claim to be perfect, but think that the media have an obligation to use the correct (bloody hell got to think what In write) English language and Grammar. (Phew)
Oh Poo
Put in Instead of I.
Its all the beers fault. (Honest)
[quote][p][bold]davroduk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mr.mark.c[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]davroduk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mr.mark.c[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]davroduk[/bold] wrote: No none has picked up on the basic English language mistake. "Has no" qualifications. You cannot have nothing. You either have something, or you do not have anything. "Has no" is poor English Language, and this is not just confined to The Bolton News, but is widespread throughout the media today. The correct headline should have read..... One in five people in Bolton do not have any qualifications. Basic English. Not friggin rocket science is it ????[/p][/quote]It's time like this that you wish you had read your own comment before clicking, nobody is perfect :) . Could we have an edit button please Julian ?[/p][/quote]Please enlighten me.[/p][/quote]Your first line and the use of full stops rather than comma's, and yes I failed English at school, writing in a Bolton accent was an epic fail for me.[/p][/quote]I am Bolton, born and bred, thats why I write in a Bolton accent. I didnt make out in my post that I was perfect, but that the headline was not 100% correct, acording to the English language. My first line contains the word "none"instead of "one" (too much beer) Notice too with two o's not one. I am just pointing out that today the media do not use the English language as they should. I did not, and do not, claim to be perfect, but think that the media have an obligation to use the correct (bloody hell got to think what In write) English language and Grammar. (Phew)[/p][/quote]Oh Poo Put in Instead of I. Its all the beers fault. (Honest) davroduk
  • Score: 0

9:53pm Fri 21 Mar 14

mr.mark.c says...

No worries davroduk
And yup thi shud bein clever N all tha
Blummin key fingy playin up wit Bowton fing, I bi luckin affty a spam butty :)
No worries davroduk And yup thi shud bein clever N all tha Blummin key fingy playin up wit Bowton fing, I bi luckin affty a spam butty :) mr.mark.c
  • Score: 0

9:01am Sat 22 Mar 14

JustBecause says...

davroduk wrote:
mr.mark.c wrote:
davroduk wrote:
mr.mark.c wrote:
davroduk wrote:
No none has picked up on the basic English language mistake.
"Has no" qualifications.
You cannot have nothing.
You either have something, or you do not have anything.
"Has no" is poor English Language, and this is not just confined to The Bolton News, but is widespread throughout the media today.
The correct headline should have read.....
One in five people in Bolton do not have any qualifications.
Basic English.
Not friggin rocket science is it ????
It's time like this that you wish you had read your own comment before clicking, nobody is perfect :)
.
Could we have an edit button please Julian ?
Please enlighten me.
Your first line and the use of full stops rather than comma's, and yes I failed English at school, writing in a Bolton accent was an epic fail for me.
I am Bolton, born and bred, thats why I write in a Bolton accent.
I didnt make out in my post that I was perfect, but that the headline was not 100% correct, acording to the English language.
My first line contains the word "none"instead of "one" (too much beer)
Notice too with two o's not one.
I am just pointing out that today the media do not use the English language as they should.
I did not, and do not, claim to be perfect, but think that the media have an obligation to use the correct (bloody hell got to think what In write) English language and Grammar. (Phew)
Why are you arguing about the grammar, I want to know why the actual figures, the facts in the story are WRONG. It's not one in 5, it's over 1 in 7 so come on BN explain why your reporting is so amateurish these days.
[quote][p][bold]davroduk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mr.mark.c[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]davroduk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mr.mark.c[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]davroduk[/bold] wrote: No none has picked up on the basic English language mistake. "Has no" qualifications. You cannot have nothing. You either have something, or you do not have anything. "Has no" is poor English Language, and this is not just confined to The Bolton News, but is widespread throughout the media today. The correct headline should have read..... One in five people in Bolton do not have any qualifications. Basic English. Not friggin rocket science is it ????[/p][/quote]It's time like this that you wish you had read your own comment before clicking, nobody is perfect :) . Could we have an edit button please Julian ?[/p][/quote]Please enlighten me.[/p][/quote]Your first line and the use of full stops rather than comma's, and yes I failed English at school, writing in a Bolton accent was an epic fail for me.[/p][/quote]I am Bolton, born and bred, thats why I write in a Bolton accent. I didnt make out in my post that I was perfect, but that the headline was not 100% correct, acording to the English language. My first line contains the word "none"instead of "one" (too much beer) Notice too with two o's not one. I am just pointing out that today the media do not use the English language as they should. I did not, and do not, claim to be perfect, but think that the media have an obligation to use the correct (bloody hell got to think what In write) English language and Grammar. (Phew)[/p][/quote]Why are you arguing about the grammar, I want to know why the actual figures, the facts in the story are WRONG. It's not one in 5, it's over 1 in 7 so come on BN explain why your reporting is so amateurish these days. JustBecause
  • Score: 0

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