'We won't make residents pay for bin collections' - Bolton Council

'We won't make residents pay for bin collections' - Bolton Council

Cllr Nick Peel

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BOLTON’S Labour-run council has moved quickly to insist it has no plans to charge people for bin collections.

The move comes after reports in the national newspapers indicated that Liberal Democrat education minister David Laws believes local councils could respond to a cut or freeze in the central government grant by charging for services such as bin collections.

A number of authorities have already started charging for the collection and disposal or recycled items and garden waste.

But Cllr Nick Peel, Bolton Council’s cabinet member for the environment said: “I think that idea is crazy really and Bolton Council has no plans whatsoever to introduce charges for bin collections — that is completely barmy.

“If the government is genuinely concerned about the ability of local authorities to deliver services then they should give them adequate money to be able to provide those services.”

Bolton’s Liberal Democrat leader, Cllr Roger Hayes said he believes Mr Law’s comments could simply be a political response aimed at Tory local government secretary Eric Pickles.

He said: “I wouldn’t be very happy to see charges for bin collections — but I think this may just be a response to Mr Pickles attempt to force councils to bring back weekly collections — I don’t think there’s much love loss there.”

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2:56pm Thu 20 Mar 14

Tim Burr says...

Bolton do charge, Peel's nose is growing rapidly.
Bolton do charge, Peel's nose is growing rapidly. Tim Burr
  • Score: 10

3:02pm Thu 20 Mar 14

Jim271 says...

Increase taxes on Off Licences to compensate the loss of value of property in the surrounding areas.
Increase taxes on Off Licences to compensate the loss of value of property in the surrounding areas. Jim271
  • Score: 12

3:19pm Thu 20 Mar 14

Beyond News Forum says...

I cannot believe this is even debated.

In the USA where the same is imposed in many states, people are paid via self service green zone next to superstores thus giving more reason to recycle.

General rubbish builds up as many people cannot afford to pay charges in many areas. Bolton is NOT and affluent town and would see the same happen. Look at the state of things right now in the back streets just because of bi-monthly collections.

Why not just set up recycling zones that pay 2p per small bottle, 5p per large bottle. 2p per tin can? This is charged at the til in the USA as a tax which is refunded at the recycling zone. While out there I even had people knocking on my door willing to take the recyclables away for me.

The reason people this is not done is purely because the profits for the council re: recycling are NOT passed back to the electorate in tax savings or services. This is a FACT and if anyone questions it, they know absolutely boo-diddly!
I cannot believe this is even debated. In the USA where the same is imposed in many states, people are paid via self service green zone next to superstores thus giving more reason to recycle. General rubbish builds up as many people cannot afford to pay charges in many areas. Bolton is NOT and affluent town and would see the same happen. Look at the state of things right now in the back streets just because of bi-monthly collections. Why not just set up recycling zones that pay 2p per small bottle, 5p per large bottle. 2p per tin can? This is charged at the til in the USA as a tax which is refunded at the recycling zone. While out there I even had people knocking on my door willing to take the recyclables away for me. The reason people this is not done is purely because the profits for the council re: recycling are NOT passed back to the electorate in tax savings or services. This is a FACT and if anyone questions it, they know absolutely boo-diddly! Beyond News Forum
  • Score: 6

3:22pm Thu 20 Mar 14

paulrich says...

We have no intention of bringing back fortnightly collections - Who said that?
We have no intention of bringing back fortnightly collections - Who said that? paulrich
  • Score: 15

3:24pm Thu 20 Mar 14

paulrich says...

http://www.thisislan
cashire.co.uk/news/9
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http://www.thisislan cashire.co.uk/news/9 59028.bin_collection s_back_for_good/ paulrich
  • Score: 0

3:24pm Thu 20 Mar 14

Tim Burr says...

People seem to have forgotten. Bolton Council were at one point considering charging by weight.
People seem to have forgotten. Bolton Council were at one point considering charging by weight. Tim Burr
  • Score: 8

3:26pm Thu 20 Mar 14

hoboh2o says...

I hope that the good people of Bolton do not forget which set of scoundrels promised, when they sought control of the council, never to introduce fortnightly bin collections.
This was a Lib/Dem proposal they were soon happy to see reincarnated despite the vow ‘never’ to do it.
I hope that the good people of Bolton do not forget which set of scoundrels promised, when they sought control of the council, never to introduce fortnightly bin collections. This was a Lib/Dem proposal they were soon happy to see reincarnated despite the vow ‘never’ to do it. hoboh2o
  • Score: 14

3:30pm Thu 20 Mar 14

wsw69 says...

Errrrm have you all missed the point?

We as council tax payers ALREADY pay for our bin collections via that vile Tory initiated tax in the 1980's. Prior to it being classified as a tax it was the local authority rates.

No way José will I be paying twice for something I've already coughed up for. If it ever came to be, then my domestic 5 H i Te will stay put.

A council run by utter idiots that treats it's electorate as utter thickos and cash-cows.
Errrrm have you all missed the point? We as council tax payers ALREADY pay for our bin collections via that vile Tory initiated tax in the 1980's. Prior to it being classified as a tax it was the local authority rates. No way José will I be paying twice for something I've already coughed up for. If it ever came to be, then my domestic 5 H i Te will stay put. A council run by utter idiots that treats it's electorate as utter thickos and cash-cows. wsw69
  • Score: 22

3:33pm Thu 20 Mar 14

holloway_david says...

Council reply should have been on this rumour "Utter Rubbish"
Council reply should have been on this rumour "Utter Rubbish" holloway_david
  • Score: 3

4:43pm Thu 20 Mar 14

Menhed says...

wsw69 wrote:
Errrrm have you all missed the point?

We as council tax payers ALREADY pay for our bin collections via that vile Tory initiated tax in the 1980's. Prior to it being classified as a tax it was the local authority rates.

No way José will I be paying twice for something I've already coughed up for. If it ever came to be, then my domestic 5 H i Te will stay put.

A council run by utter idiots that treats it's electorate as utter thickos and cash-cows.
You mean that vile tax that rose dramatically above inflation during the labour years that the tories offer incentives to freeze?

I agree we already pay for general refuse collection.
[quote][p][bold]wsw69[/bold] wrote: Errrrm have you all missed the point? We as council tax payers ALREADY pay for our bin collections via that vile Tory initiated tax in the 1980's. Prior to it being classified as a tax it was the local authority rates. No way José will I be paying twice for something I've already coughed up for. If it ever came to be, then my domestic 5 H i Te will stay put. A council run by utter idiots that treats it's electorate as utter thickos and cash-cows.[/p][/quote]You mean that vile tax that rose dramatically above inflation during the labour years that the tories offer incentives to freeze? I agree we already pay for general refuse collection. Menhed
  • Score: 13

4:59pm Thu 20 Mar 14

rnorris says...

Peel just likes his picture in the paper now and then. If a labour council introduced charges for emptying bins then at the next local election there wont be a labour councillor elected.......Howeve
r saying that, Boltons labour councillors have ignored the tories freeze on Council Tax...........When Peels around you never know !
Peel just likes his picture in the paper now and then. If a labour council introduced charges for emptying bins then at the next local election there wont be a labour councillor elected.......Howeve r saying that, Boltons labour councillors have ignored the tories freeze on Council Tax...........When Peels around you never know ! rnorris
  • Score: 8

5:37pm Thu 20 Mar 14

BWFC71 says...

Jim271 wrote:
Increase taxes on Off Licences to compensate the loss of value of property in the surrounding areas.
Only Central Government can do that as Business Rates are set by Central Government and not Bolton Council! And the next review of the rates won't happen until after the next general election.
[quote][p][bold]Jim271[/bold] wrote: Increase taxes on Off Licences to compensate the loss of value of property in the surrounding areas.[/p][/quote]Only Central Government can do that as Business Rates are set by Central Government and not Bolton Council! And the next review of the rates won't happen until after the next general election. BWFC71
  • Score: -23

6:07pm Thu 20 Mar 14

BWFC71 says...

But (as I forgot to add this on to my last post) Nick Peel is wrong as per usual and doesn't know how the Council Tax works as we already pay for refuse collections through it - as mentioned by a couple of others already!
But (as I forgot to add this on to my last post) Nick Peel is wrong as per usual and doesn't know how the Council Tax works as we already pay for refuse collections through it - as mentioned by a couple of others already! BWFC71
  • Score: -19

8:39pm Thu 20 Mar 14

angus macoatup says...

wsw69 wrote:
Errrrm have you all missed the point?

We as council tax payers ALREADY pay for our bin collections via that vile Tory initiated tax in the 1980's. Prior to it being classified as a tax it was the local authority rates.

No way José will I be paying twice for something I've already coughed up for. If it ever came to be, then my domestic 5 H i Te will stay put.

A council run by utter idiots that treats it's electorate as utter thickos and cash-cows.
just save your rubbish for the armstrongs annual fire
[quote][p][bold]wsw69[/bold] wrote: Errrrm have you all missed the point? We as council tax payers ALREADY pay for our bin collections via that vile Tory initiated tax in the 1980's. Prior to it being classified as a tax it was the local authority rates. No way José will I be paying twice for something I've already coughed up for. If it ever came to be, then my domestic 5 H i Te will stay put. A council run by utter idiots that treats it's electorate as utter thickos and cash-cows.[/p][/quote]just save your rubbish for the armstrongs annual fire angus macoatup
  • Score: 4

9:17pm Thu 20 Mar 14

wsw69 says...

Menhed wrote:
wsw69 wrote:
Errrrm have you all missed the point?

We as council tax payers ALREADY pay for our bin collections via that vile Tory initiated tax in the 1980's. Prior to it being classified as a tax it was the local authority rates.

No way José will I be paying twice for something I've already coughed up for. If it ever came to be, then my domestic 5 H i Te will stay put.

A council run by utter idiots that treats it's electorate as utter thickos and cash-cows.
You mean that vile tax that rose dramatically above inflation during the labour years that the tories offer incentives to freeze?

I agree we already pay for general refuse collection.
I mean that vile Tory introduced Poll Tax that ended up renamed to the Council Tax which replaced the local authority Rates System. Now the Rates System included the charge for Water Rates, which soon ended up a separate charge to privatise the water companies so as to stiff the public in wringing out more cash from us all. That has ended up with the lousy fiasco of screwing us all over in the name of privatised, greedy shareholder first driven utility setups that we now have. Thanks to the Tory model we are all in a dire state.
[quote][p][bold]Menhed[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wsw69[/bold] wrote: Errrrm have you all missed the point? We as council tax payers ALREADY pay for our bin collections via that vile Tory initiated tax in the 1980's. Prior to it being classified as a tax it was the local authority rates. No way José will I be paying twice for something I've already coughed up for. If it ever came to be, then my domestic 5 H i Te will stay put. A council run by utter idiots that treats it's electorate as utter thickos and cash-cows.[/p][/quote]You mean that vile tax that rose dramatically above inflation during the labour years that the tories offer incentives to freeze? I agree we already pay for general refuse collection.[/p][/quote]I mean that vile Tory introduced Poll Tax that ended up renamed to the Council Tax which replaced the local authority Rates System. Now the Rates System included the charge for Water Rates, which soon ended up a separate charge to privatise the water companies so as to stiff the public in wringing out more cash from us all. That has ended up with the lousy fiasco of screwing us all over in the name of privatised, greedy shareholder first driven utility setups that we now have. Thanks to the Tory model we are all in a dire state. wsw69
  • Score: -44

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