Angry Smithills residents get rude awakening as council repairs potholes - at 4.40am

The Bolton News: The potholes in Church Road, Smithills, that the council decided to repair at 4.40am The potholes in Church Road, Smithills, that the council decided to repair at 4.40am

RESIDENTS on a Smithills street had a rude awakening — when workmen started filling in potholes at 4.40am.

Stunned residents in Church Road could not quite believe their bleary eyes as they were woken by the noise then looked out of their bedroom windows to see workers filling in potholes.

Bolton Council has now apologised and said the work should never have taken place so early in the morning.

Residents in Church Road who confronted the workmen were asked: “When would you like us to do the repairs?”

Dad Rob Coen, aged 48, said council staff later took more than six hours to respond to his complaints and were rude and unhelpful when they eventually called him back.

Mr Coen, a bricklayer who has lived in Church Road for 26 years, said he rang the council at 8.15am, was put on hold for 25 minutes and did not receive a call back from the relevant manager until 2.30pm.

He said: “The noise for the time of day was completely unacceptable and woke the whole household up, not to mention the other residents.

“I asked the workmen what was going on and their reply was they had been told to carry out these repairs at this time.

“Once they had started they did quite a few potholes on the street.

“It wasn’t just me - I could see a few people at their windows watching what was going on.

“It was just far, far too early, and the manager just said, ‘when would you like me to do them?’.

“His tone and manner was extremely rude.”

A council spokesman said: “We are very sorry for any inconvenience caused to residents.

“The pothole repairs were required and on occasion we are required to work during the night.

"However, on this occasion this work should never have taken place at this time and we will make sure that this doesn't happen again.”

Mr Coen, who lives with his wife and son in Church Road, said he did not believe the repairs would last long.

He added: “The road surface on Church Road is disgraceful and to me I don’t think the repairs will last longer than a year.

“This is what the council do, patch it up rather than relay the road.

“It was only a matter of months ago that they patched them up last time.”

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8:14am Sat 12 Apr 14

NHLUFC says...

Don't apologise, it's just one morning causing minimal disruption on the roads. Great idea. These people need to buck up and enjoy the best part of the day.
Don't apologise, it's just one morning causing minimal disruption on the roads. Great idea. These people need to buck up and enjoy the best part of the day. NHLUFC
  • Score: 46

8:52am Sat 12 Apr 14

Changing times says...

Wish people would stop moaning.

Good on the Council for getting these pot holes filled in. I'm sure they were only outside this person's house for 10 mins and it's only a one off, better this than it getting left for another few weeks.

I hope they don't return in future if all they get is abuse from the locals.
Wish people would stop moaning. Good on the Council for getting these pot holes filled in. I'm sure they were only outside this person's house for 10 mins and it's only a one off, better this than it getting left for another few weeks. I hope they don't return in future if all they get is abuse from the locals. Changing times
  • Score: 45

8:59am Sat 12 Apr 14

soup153 says...

Birds get me up a the crack of dawn ever morning, work all day. what's your problem.
Birds get me up a the crack of dawn ever morning, work all day. what's your problem. soup153
  • Score: 30

9:13am Sat 12 Apr 14

Boltonresident2012 says...

If you are not allowed to use a car horn before 7 am, how can they justify the noise of machinery at 4.40 - can't be one law for one and one for another!
If you are not allowed to use a car horn before 7 am, how can they justify the noise of machinery at 4.40 - can't be one law for one and one for another! Boltonresident2012
  • Score: -7

9:16am Sat 12 Apr 14

AndrewMartinS says...

I'm glad the Council is finally doing something about these potholes but I'm sure they could find a more appropriate time!
I'm glad the Council is finally doing something about these potholes but I'm sure they could find a more appropriate time! AndrewMartinS
  • Score: 8

9:24am Sat 12 Apr 14

Muppet80 says...

Complain, complain, complain. That's all some people do. Complain it's too early then complain about the council only patching up the road. I'm sure they'd have complained a lot more if the council took up the entire road and relaid it, or if they started works later and held up rush hour traffic. They just can't win!
Complain, complain, complain. That's all some people do. Complain it's too early then complain about the council only patching up the road. I'm sure they'd have complained a lot more if the council took up the entire road and relaid it, or if they started works later and held up rush hour traffic. They just can't win! Muppet80
  • Score: 39

9:31am Sat 12 Apr 14

melloj says...

I know people who get up at 4.00 in the morning everyday anyway. Like thousands do. Never heard of a night shift?
I know people who get up at 4.00 in the morning everyday anyway. Like thousands do. Never heard of a night shift? melloj
  • Score: 25

9:32am Sat 12 Apr 14

The Righteous One says...

Church Road is a busy road not only does it have up to 8 buses an hour in both directions, it is also the main rad for the many housing estates in the area - therefore filling the potholes in at an early time when there isn't that much traffic is the best time!!! Or would the residents want the road temporary closed thus causing even worse tailback and chaos?
Church Road is a busy road not only does it have up to 8 buses an hour in both directions, it is also the main rad for the many housing estates in the area - therefore filling the potholes in at an early time when there isn't that much traffic is the best time!!! Or would the residents want the road temporary closed thus causing even worse tailback and chaos? The Righteous One
  • Score: 37

10:07am Sat 12 Apr 14

Rememberscarborough says...

Any idea how much it would cost to relay that stretch of Church Road? I suspect it's probably in to six figures...
Any idea how much it would cost to relay that stretch of Church Road? I suspect it's probably in to six figures... Rememberscarborough
  • Score: 15

11:46am Sat 12 Apr 14

Beyond News Forum says...

Same people would have moaned with a road closure or traffic backed up because of temporary lights.
Same people would have moaned with a road closure or traffic backed up because of temporary lights. Beyond News Forum
  • Score: 21

12:23pm Sat 12 Apr 14

davidjb says...

so council actually do some work and get moaned at. they'll just go back to doing nothing again
so council actually do some work and get moaned at. they'll just go back to doing nothing again davidjb
  • Score: 14

12:38pm Sat 12 Apr 14

boltonnut says...

Up in the morning out on job work like the devil for my pay,while that lucky old bum ain't got nothin' to do but roll around bed all day.
Up in the morning out on job work like the devil for my pay,while that lucky old bum ain't got nothin' to do but roll around bed all day. boltonnut
  • Score: 12

1:25pm Sat 12 Apr 14

biglad44 says...

I wonder how much noise a bricklayer makes he is working. Some people are never happy. Those lads must of been up all night grafting and some bloke moans at them about waking him up. He was lucky he never went back in his house with a shovel up his @rse.
I wonder how much noise a bricklayer makes he is working. Some people are never happy. Those lads must of been up all night grafting and some bloke moans at them about waking him up. He was lucky he never went back in his house with a shovel up his @rse. biglad44
  • Score: 26

1:45pm Sat 12 Apr 14

MrBenggo says...

Changing times wrote:
Wish people would stop moaning.

Good on the Council for getting these pot holes filled in. I'm sure they were only outside this person's house for 10 mins and it's only a one off, better this than it getting left for another few weeks.

I hope they don't return in future if all they get is abuse from the locals.
It looks like a ten minute job has been done,will not be long before it wants doing again.
[quote][p][bold]Changing times[/bold] wrote: Wish people would stop moaning. Good on the Council for getting these pot holes filled in. I'm sure they were only outside this person's house for 10 mins and it's only a one off, better this than it getting left for another few weeks. I hope they don't return in future if all they get is abuse from the locals.[/p][/quote]It looks like a ten minute job has been done,will not be long before it wants doing again. MrBenggo
  • Score: -9

3:33pm Sat 12 Apr 14

boydell says...

The council is quite right doing these jobs through the night when there is hardly any traffic to hold them back. If they done the same all over Bolton the pot holes would be filled in much quicker. The people who complain should put some cotton wool in their ears. The way I see it is ,,,, the council are "damned if they do and damned if they don't". I think its a great idea !!
The council is quite right doing these jobs through the night when there is hardly any traffic to hold them back. If they done the same all over Bolton the pot holes would be filled in much quicker. The people who complain should put some cotton wool in their ears. The way I see it is ,,,, the council are "damned if they do and damned if they don't". I think its a great idea !! boydell
  • Score: 25

5:11pm Sat 12 Apr 14

marco999 says...

Of course the residents complained and rightly so - it's the last thing you need in the middle of the night! The council were taking the pi55; they should have done the repairs at a more sociable time and had some consideration for their paying customers - that is the poor saps like you and me who need a good nights sleep before having to get up for work to earn the money to pay the expensive council tax in the first place.
Of course the residents complained and rightly so - it's the last thing you need in the middle of the night! The council were taking the pi55; they should have done the repairs at a more sociable time and had some consideration for their paying customers - that is the poor saps like you and me who need a good nights sleep before having to get up for work to earn the money to pay the expensive council tax in the first place. marco999
  • Score: -19

5:28pm Sat 12 Apr 14

boydell says...

marco999 wrote:
Of course the residents complained and rightly so - it's the last thing you need in the middle of the night! The council were taking the pi55; they should have done the repairs at a more sociable time and had some consideration for their paying customers - that is the poor saps like you and me who need a good nights sleep before having to get up for work to earn the money to pay the expensive council tax in the first place.
What about the shift workers who need to get THEIR sleep through the day. They have to make the best of it. As well as road works being done they also have to put up with all the traffic, I am talking about the likes of nurses....., doctors..... firemen and the police. These are the people who really need a good sleep before starting work. We never hear them complain about the roadworks or the noisy traffic.
Get a grip all you moaners, the way you go on you would think it was going on for months instead of on one occasion.!!
[quote][p][bold]marco999[/bold] wrote: Of course the residents complained and rightly so - it's the last thing you need in the middle of the night! The council were taking the pi55; they should have done the repairs at a more sociable time and had some consideration for their paying customers - that is the poor saps like you and me who need a good nights sleep before having to get up for work to earn the money to pay the expensive council tax in the first place.[/p][/quote]What about the shift workers who need to get THEIR sleep through the day. They have to make the best of it. As well as road works being done they also have to put up with all the traffic, I am talking about the likes of nurses....., doctors..... firemen and the police. These are the people who really need a good sleep before starting work. We never hear them complain about the roadworks or the noisy traffic. Get a grip all you moaners, the way you go on you would think it was going on for months instead of on one occasion.!! boydell
  • Score: 25

7:08pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Ernagy2 says...

Rememberscarborough wrote:
Any idea how much it would cost to relay that stretch of Church Road? I suspect it's probably in to six figures...
Knowing the council - add an extra zero (lol)
[quote][p][bold]Rememberscarborough[/bold] wrote: Any idea how much it would cost to relay that stretch of Church Road? I suspect it's probably in to six figures...[/p][/quote]Knowing the council - add an extra zero (lol) Ernagy2
  • Score: -8

7:13pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Ernagy2 says...

I always thought church road was Halliwell or Heaton, not Smithills!

Anyway I agree with others, why not 4am? It's the quietest time of the day as far as traffic is concerned and if you are told in good time, surely you can put up with some disruption. If the work was done during normal hours you disrupt the buses and the timetable and cause more traffic jams. Don't see anything wrong myself.
I always thought church road was Halliwell or Heaton, not Smithills! Anyway I agree with others, why not 4am? It's the quietest time of the day as far as traffic is concerned and if you are told in good time, surely you can put up with some disruption. If the work was done during normal hours you disrupt the buses and the timetable and cause more traffic jams. Don't see anything wrong myself. Ernagy2
  • Score: 15

8:06pm Sat 12 Apr 14

swa1958 says...

boydell wrote:
marco999 wrote:
Of course the residents complained and rightly so - it's the last thing you need in the middle of the night! The council were taking the pi55; they should have done the repairs at a more sociable time and had some consideration for their paying customers - that is the poor saps like you and me who need a good nights sleep before having to get up for work to earn the money to pay the expensive council tax in the first place.
What about the shift workers who need to get THEIR sleep through the day. They have to make the best of it. As well as road works being done they also have to put up with all the traffic, I am talking about the likes of nurses....., doctors..... firemen and the police. These are the people who really need a good sleep before starting work. We never hear them complain about the roadworks or the noisy traffic.
Get a grip all you moaners, the way you go on you would think it was going on for months instead of on one occasion.!!
Spot on. Traffic noise, kids playing in the street, ice cream vans, people mowing their grass and doing DIY in their gardens, all while the night worker is trying to sleep. Nobody gives a second thought then, why is this one-off event such a big deal? Get a grip.
[quote][p][bold]boydell[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]marco999[/bold] wrote: Of course the residents complained and rightly so - it's the last thing you need in the middle of the night! The council were taking the pi55; they should have done the repairs at a more sociable time and had some consideration for their paying customers - that is the poor saps like you and me who need a good nights sleep before having to get up for work to earn the money to pay the expensive council tax in the first place.[/p][/quote]What about the shift workers who need to get THEIR sleep through the day. They have to make the best of it. As well as road works being done they also have to put up with all the traffic, I am talking about the likes of nurses....., doctors..... firemen and the police. These are the people who really need a good sleep before starting work. We never hear them complain about the roadworks or the noisy traffic. Get a grip all you moaners, the way you go on you would think it was going on for months instead of on one occasion.!![/p][/quote]Spot on. Traffic noise, kids playing in the street, ice cream vans, people mowing their grass and doing DIY in their gardens, all while the night worker is trying to sleep. Nobody gives a second thought then, why is this one-off event such a big deal? Get a grip. swa1958
  • Score: 18

9:01pm Sat 12 Apr 14

dougie kay says...

Filled pot holes lasting twelve months. Now that is what I call an optomist. E The ones on Sunnybank Rd lasted three week .and now are as bad as ever
Filled pot holes lasting twelve months. Now that is what I call an optomist. E The ones on Sunnybank Rd lasted three week .and now are as bad as ever dougie kay
  • Score: -1

9:58pm Sat 12 Apr 14

crazyoldme says...

WOW!!! Why are these people moaning? I (and I assume most people) have to get up at this time every morning, to get ready for work.

Plus the council are doing repairs that desperately need doing.
WOW!!! Why are these people moaning? I (and I assume most people) have to get up at this time every morning, to get ready for work. Plus the council are doing repairs that desperately need doing. crazyoldme
  • Score: 12

7:51am Sun 13 Apr 14

breightmet kid says...

It was the modern day 'knocker-up' Does no one remember the night time soil man, clattering down the cobbled back streets to every home.

Bolton has so many pot-holes that to fill them all the workmen have to work 24 hours a day and I bet the residents of Church Road really appreciated a smooth ride along their road.

Council services run 24/7/365 and I think someone should tell the Church Road residents who should thank them for doing the job, others are still waiting, still getting their cars damaged and paying huge repair bills.
It was the modern day 'knocker-up' Does no one remember the night time soil man, clattering down the cobbled back streets to every home. Bolton has so many pot-holes that to fill them all the workmen have to work 24 hours a day and I bet the residents of Church Road really appreciated a smooth ride along their road. Council services run 24/7/365 and I think someone should tell the Church Road residents who should thank them for doing the job, others are still waiting, still getting their cars damaged and paying huge repair bills. breightmet kid
  • Score: 2

10:12am Sun 13 Apr 14

Hammez89 says...

I get up at 5.30 every morning for work. I work long days and value the sleep I get. If I was woken up at 4am I'd be furious. This isn't just complaining for the sake of complaining, it's unreasonable to start working directly outside peoples houses before 8am
I get up at 5.30 every morning for work. I work long days and value the sleep I get. If I was woken up at 4am I'd be furious. This isn't just complaining for the sake of complaining, it's unreasonable to start working directly outside peoples houses before 8am Hammez89
  • Score: -11

10:22am Sun 13 Apr 14

The Righteous One says...

Hammez89 wrote:
I get up at 5.30 every morning for work. I work long days and value the sleep I get. If I was woken up at 4am I'd be furious. This isn't just complaining for the sake of complaining, it's unreasonable to start working directly outside peoples houses before 8am
No its not - what about all those that work the night-shifts and have to put up with the daytime noise which will be much much more than 1 small team of council workers filling in a pot-hole that takes at most 15 minutes!!!!

Or do you not care about the, just as long as your are alight?
[quote][p][bold]Hammez89[/bold] wrote: I get up at 5.30 every morning for work. I work long days and value the sleep I get. If I was woken up at 4am I'd be furious. This isn't just complaining for the sake of complaining, it's unreasonable to start working directly outside peoples houses before 8am[/p][/quote]No its not - what about all those that work the night-shifts and have to put up with the daytime noise which will be much much more than 1 small team of council workers filling in a pot-hole that takes at most 15 minutes!!!! Or do you not care about the, just as long as your are alight? The Righteous One
  • Score: 10

10:58am Sun 13 Apr 14

owencoyle99 says...

swa1958 wrote:
boydell wrote:
marco999 wrote:
Of course the residents complained and rightly so - it's the last thing you need in the middle of the night! The council were taking the pi55; they should have done the repairs at a more sociable time and had some consideration for their paying customers - that is the poor saps like you and me who need a good nights sleep before having to get up for work to earn the money to pay the expensive council tax in the first place.
What about the shift workers who need to get THEIR sleep through the day. They have to make the best of it. As well as road works being done they also have to put up with all the traffic, I am talking about the likes of nurses....., doctors..... firemen and the police. These are the people who really need a good sleep before starting work. We never hear them complain about the roadworks or the noisy traffic.
Get a grip all you moaners, the way you go on you would think it was going on for months instead of on one occasion.!!
Spot on. Traffic noise, kids playing in the street, ice cream vans, people mowing their grass and doing DIY in their gardens, all while the night worker is trying to sleep. Nobody gives a second thought then, why is this one-off event such a big deal? Get a grip.
What dummies - working thro the night is by choice
We are not bats owls or any other nocturnal animals we are human beings which go to bed at night and get up in the morning
Doing road repairs is unacceptable at this time of the night
[quote][p][bold]swa1958[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]boydell[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]marco999[/bold] wrote: Of course the residents complained and rightly so - it's the last thing you need in the middle of the night! The council were taking the pi55; they should have done the repairs at a more sociable time and had some consideration for their paying customers - that is the poor saps like you and me who need a good nights sleep before having to get up for work to earn the money to pay the expensive council tax in the first place.[/p][/quote]What about the shift workers who need to get THEIR sleep through the day. They have to make the best of it. As well as road works being done they also have to put up with all the traffic, I am talking about the likes of nurses....., doctors..... firemen and the police. These are the people who really need a good sleep before starting work. We never hear them complain about the roadworks or the noisy traffic. Get a grip all you moaners, the way you go on you would think it was going on for months instead of on one occasion.!![/p][/quote]Spot on. Traffic noise, kids playing in the street, ice cream vans, people mowing their grass and doing DIY in their gardens, all while the night worker is trying to sleep. Nobody gives a second thought then, why is this one-off event such a big deal? Get a grip.[/p][/quote]What dummies - working thro the night is by choice We are not bats owls or any other nocturnal animals we are human beings which go to bed at night and get up in the morning Doing road repairs is unacceptable at this time of the night owencoyle99
  • Score: -13

11:26am Sun 13 Apr 14

biglad44 says...

I work for the council and sometimes night working can't be avoided like every 6 weeks St. Peter's way has a night closure and we all work through the night and by 7:00 Sunday morning it's open to traffic again. By 10:00 am I'm woken up by kids playing cars and DIY where I live. ITS CALLED LIFE. You have to get on with it no good moaning.
I work for the council and sometimes night working can't be avoided like every 6 weeks St. Peter's way has a night closure and we all work through the night and by 7:00 Sunday morning it's open to traffic again. By 10:00 am I'm woken up by kids playing cars and DIY where I live. ITS CALLED LIFE. You have to get on with it no good moaning. biglad44
  • Score: 17

11:39am Sun 13 Apr 14

Ernagy2 says...

owencoyle99 wrote:
swa1958 wrote:
boydell wrote:
marco999 wrote:
Of course the residents complained and rightly so - it's the last thing you need in the middle of the night! The council were taking the pi55; they should have done the repairs at a more sociable time and had some consideration for their paying customers - that is the poor saps like you and me who need a good nights sleep before having to get up for work to earn the money to pay the expensive council tax in the first place.
What about the shift workers who need to get THEIR sleep through the day. They have to make the best of it. As well as road works being done they also have to put up with all the traffic, I am talking about the likes of nurses....., doctors..... firemen and the police. These are the people who really need a good sleep before starting work. We never hear them complain about the roadworks or the noisy traffic.
Get a grip all you moaners, the way you go on you would think it was going on for months instead of on one occasion.!!
Spot on. Traffic noise, kids playing in the street, ice cream vans, people mowing their grass and doing DIY in their gardens, all while the night worker is trying to sleep. Nobody gives a second thought then, why is this one-off event such a big deal? Get a grip.
What dummies - working thro the night is by choice
We are not bats owls or any other nocturnal animals we are human beings which go to bed at night and get up in the morning
Doing road repairs is unacceptable at this time of the night
If the council had given notice that it was going to happen then all people would have to do is go to bed a little earlier. No problem. This is making a mountain out of a molehill.
[quote][p][bold]owencoyle99[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]swa1958[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]boydell[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]marco999[/bold] wrote: Of course the residents complained and rightly so - it's the last thing you need in the middle of the night! The council were taking the pi55; they should have done the repairs at a more sociable time and had some consideration for their paying customers - that is the poor saps like you and me who need a good nights sleep before having to get up for work to earn the money to pay the expensive council tax in the first place.[/p][/quote]What about the shift workers who need to get THEIR sleep through the day. They have to make the best of it. As well as road works being done they also have to put up with all the traffic, I am talking about the likes of nurses....., doctors..... firemen and the police. These are the people who really need a good sleep before starting work. We never hear them complain about the roadworks or the noisy traffic. Get a grip all you moaners, the way you go on you would think it was going on for months instead of on one occasion.!![/p][/quote]Spot on. Traffic noise, kids playing in the street, ice cream vans, people mowing their grass and doing DIY in their gardens, all while the night worker is trying to sleep. Nobody gives a second thought then, why is this one-off event such a big deal? Get a grip.[/p][/quote]What dummies - working thro the night is by choice We are not bats owls or any other nocturnal animals we are human beings which go to bed at night and get up in the morning Doing road repairs is unacceptable at this time of the night[/p][/quote]If the council had given notice that it was going to happen then all people would have to do is go to bed a little earlier. No problem. This is making a mountain out of a molehill. Ernagy2
  • Score: 10

12:01pm Sun 13 Apr 14

The Righteous One says...

owencoyle99 wrote:
swa1958 wrote:
boydell wrote:
marco999 wrote:
Of course the residents complained and rightly so - it's the last thing you need in the middle of the night! The council were taking the pi55; they should have done the repairs at a more sociable time and had some consideration for their paying customers - that is the poor saps like you and me who need a good nights sleep before having to get up for work to earn the money to pay the expensive council tax in the first place.
What about the shift workers who need to get THEIR sleep through the day. They have to make the best of it. As well as road works being done they also have to put up with all the traffic, I am talking about the likes of nurses....., doctors..... firemen and the police. These are the people who really need a good sleep before starting work. We never hear them complain about the roadworks or the noisy traffic.
Get a grip all you moaners, the way you go on you would think it was going on for months instead of on one occasion.!!
Spot on. Traffic noise, kids playing in the street, ice cream vans, people mowing their grass and doing DIY in their gardens, all while the night worker is trying to sleep. Nobody gives a second thought then, why is this one-off event such a big deal? Get a grip.
What dummies - working thro the night is by choice
We are not bats owls or any other nocturnal animals we are human beings which go to bed at night and get up in the morning
Doing road repairs is unacceptable at this time of the night
It is the best tie of day to do repairs due to minimum disruption!!!! Or would you rather be stuck in traffic at temporary traffic lights, thus making you journey to/from work longer than normal?

let put it this way why is it such a disruption for 10-15 minutes 1 night out of 365 days in the year! Do you not think that those who HAVE to work night-shifts (such as those in A&E) should bee allowed to have quiet during the daytime, or are you one of those that expects A&E, and other hospital services, to be closed at night because as humans we are not meant to be awake at night.

I know lets make sure that women why are pregnant do not give birth in the middle of the night so not to interrupt your beauty sleep!!! OR shall we make sure that house fires do not happen in the night because firemen shouldn't be working???
[quote][p][bold]owencoyle99[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]swa1958[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]boydell[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]marco999[/bold] wrote: Of course the residents complained and rightly so - it's the last thing you need in the middle of the night! The council were taking the pi55; they should have done the repairs at a more sociable time and had some consideration for their paying customers - that is the poor saps like you and me who need a good nights sleep before having to get up for work to earn the money to pay the expensive council tax in the first place.[/p][/quote]What about the shift workers who need to get THEIR sleep through the day. They have to make the best of it. As well as road works being done they also have to put up with all the traffic, I am talking about the likes of nurses....., doctors..... firemen and the police. These are the people who really need a good sleep before starting work. We never hear them complain about the roadworks or the noisy traffic. Get a grip all you moaners, the way you go on you would think it was going on for months instead of on one occasion.!![/p][/quote]Spot on. Traffic noise, kids playing in the street, ice cream vans, people mowing their grass and doing DIY in their gardens, all while the night worker is trying to sleep. Nobody gives a second thought then, why is this one-off event such a big deal? Get a grip.[/p][/quote]What dummies - working thro the night is by choice We are not bats owls or any other nocturnal animals we are human beings which go to bed at night and get up in the morning Doing road repairs is unacceptable at this time of the night[/p][/quote]It is the best tie of day to do repairs due to minimum disruption!!!! Or would you rather be stuck in traffic at temporary traffic lights, thus making you journey to/from work longer than normal? let put it this way why is it such a disruption for 10-15 minutes 1 night out of 365 days in the year! Do you not think that those who HAVE to work night-shifts (such as those in A&E) should bee allowed to have quiet during the daytime, or are you one of those that expects A&E, and other hospital services, to be closed at night because as humans we are not meant to be awake at night. I know lets make sure that women why are pregnant do not give birth in the middle of the night so not to interrupt your beauty sleep!!! OR shall we make sure that house fires do not happen in the night because firemen shouldn't be working??? The Righteous One
  • Score: 15

5:02pm Sun 13 Apr 14

Hammez89 says...

The Righteous One wrote:
Hammez89 wrote:
I get up at 5.30 every morning for work. I work long days and value the sleep I get. If I was woken up at 4am I'd be furious. This isn't just complaining for the sake of complaining, it's unreasonable to start working directly outside peoples houses before 8am
No its not - what about all those that work the night-shifts and have to put up with the daytime noise which will be much much more than 1 small team of council workers filling in a pot-hole that takes at most 15 minutes!!!!

Or do you not care about the, just as long as your are alight?
If you work nights you've probably made a choice to work 'unsociable hours'. The majority of people who do work nights do it because it's more money etc. It's just common curtousy not to use machinery in a residential street at that time
[quote][p][bold]The Righteous One[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hammez89[/bold] wrote: I get up at 5.30 every morning for work. I work long days and value the sleep I get. If I was woken up at 4am I'd be furious. This isn't just complaining for the sake of complaining, it's unreasonable to start working directly outside peoples houses before 8am[/p][/quote]No its not - what about all those that work the night-shifts and have to put up with the daytime noise which will be much much more than 1 small team of council workers filling in a pot-hole that takes at most 15 minutes!!!! Or do you not care about the, just as long as your are alight?[/p][/quote]If you work nights you've probably made a choice to work 'unsociable hours'. The majority of people who do work nights do it because it's more money etc. It's just common curtousy not to use machinery in a residential street at that time Hammez89
  • Score: -10

6:51pm Sun 13 Apr 14

The Righteous One says...

Hammez89 wrote:
The Righteous One wrote:
Hammez89 wrote:
I get up at 5.30 every morning for work. I work long days and value the sleep I get. If I was woken up at 4am I'd be furious. This isn't just complaining for the sake of complaining, it's unreasonable to start working directly outside peoples houses before 8am
No its not - what about all those that work the night-shifts and have to put up with the daytime noise which will be much much more than 1 small team of council workers filling in a pot-hole that takes at most 15 minutes!!!!

Or do you not care about the, just as long as your are alight?
If you work nights you've probably made a choice to work 'unsociable hours'. The majority of people who do work nights do it because it's more money etc. It's just common curtousy not to use machinery in a residential street at that time
In many jobs, that entail night shifts, it is NOT personal choice but how the rota's have been drawn up. Medical profession, Armed profession, Emergenccy Services, manufacturing etc etc are part and parcel of the contract that the staff have to do night shifts as well as day shifts!
[quote][p][bold]Hammez89[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Righteous One[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hammez89[/bold] wrote: I get up at 5.30 every morning for work. I work long days and value the sleep I get. If I was woken up at 4am I'd be furious. This isn't just complaining for the sake of complaining, it's unreasonable to start working directly outside peoples houses before 8am[/p][/quote]No its not - what about all those that work the night-shifts and have to put up with the daytime noise which will be much much more than 1 small team of council workers filling in a pot-hole that takes at most 15 minutes!!!! Or do you not care about the, just as long as your are alight?[/p][/quote]If you work nights you've probably made a choice to work 'unsociable hours'. The majority of people who do work nights do it because it's more money etc. It's just common curtousy not to use machinery in a residential street at that time[/p][/quote]In many jobs, that entail night shifts, it is NOT personal choice but how the rota's have been drawn up. Medical profession, Armed profession, Emergenccy Services, manufacturing etc etc are part and parcel of the contract that the staff have to do night shifts as well as day shifts! The Righteous One
  • Score: 5

9:00pm Sun 13 Apr 14

Reality50 says...

7 even 6am in the summer seems reasonable as a one off i suppose but 4.40am is ridiculous. Children and the elderly are usually fast asleep and don't need the shock of that noise waking them up.
7 even 6am in the summer seems reasonable as a one off i suppose but 4.40am is ridiculous. Children and the elderly are usually fast asleep and don't need the shock of that noise waking them up. Reality50
  • Score: -7

11:44pm Sun 13 Apr 14

abbersbolton says...

I think some of these commenters are missing the point - it's ok saying that people should put up with it, but why can't the council notify the residents to warn them - it's the same when they work in empty houses at Bolton at Home, it's fair and reasonable to expect work to be done in these houses, and on their roads, but surely it's fair and reasonable too, to expect some warning that noise will disrupt them? It's 4.40 am for god's sake! With all the money they waste on IT people I'm sure they could work out a notification system that reaches the residents. Even a warning on the road would have been fair in this case. It's not like the workmen don't come to prep at a point before the work is done. Obviously you can't please everyone but at the same time you should have some consideration and not to mention the rudeness of the workmen - the situation probably wouldn't have even appeared in the news if they had simply apologised to the people about the time "but it's necessary on busy roads and we'll be as quick as possible" but I guess it's a sign of the times that a little courtesy is too much to ask!
I think some of these commenters are missing the point - it's ok saying that people should put up with it, but why can't the council notify the residents to warn them - it's the same when they work in empty houses at Bolton at Home, it's fair and reasonable to expect work to be done in these houses, and on their roads, but surely it's fair and reasonable too, to expect some warning that noise will disrupt them? It's 4.40 am for god's sake! With all the money they waste on IT people I'm sure they could work out a notification system that reaches the residents. Even a warning on the road would have been fair in this case. It's not like the workmen don't come to prep at a point before the work is done. Obviously you can't please everyone but at the same time you should have some consideration and not to mention the rudeness of the workmen - the situation probably wouldn't have even appeared in the news if they had simply apologised to the people about the time "but it's necessary on busy roads and we'll be as quick as possible" but I guess it's a sign of the times that a little courtesy is too much to ask! abbersbolton
  • Score: -5

10:32am Mon 14 Apr 14

Ernagy2 says...

abbersbolton wrote:
I think some of these commenters are missing the point - it's ok saying that people should put up with it, but why can't the council notify the residents to warn them - it's the same when they work in empty houses at Bolton at Home, it's fair and reasonable to expect work to be done in these houses, and on their roads, but surely it's fair and reasonable too, to expect some warning that noise will disrupt them? It's 4.40 am for god's sake! With all the money they waste on IT people I'm sure they could work out a notification system that reaches the residents. Even a warning on the road would have been fair in this case. It's not like the workmen don't come to prep at a point before the work is done. Obviously you can't please everyone but at the same time you should have some consideration and not to mention the rudeness of the workmen - the situation probably wouldn't have even appeared in the news if they had simply apologised to the people about the time "but it's necessary on busy roads and we'll be as quick as possible" but I guess it's a sign of the times that a little courtesy is too much to ask!
I agree about the notice, which I put in one of my earlier threads. I have noticed in other countries that work on road projects begins well before 7 / 8 am, but other countries send leaflets out well in advance. It seems that courtesy has suffered in the cut backs!
[quote][p][bold]abbersbolton[/bold] wrote: I think some of these commenters are missing the point - it's ok saying that people should put up with it, but why can't the council notify the residents to warn them - it's the same when they work in empty houses at Bolton at Home, it's fair and reasonable to expect work to be done in these houses, and on their roads, but surely it's fair and reasonable too, to expect some warning that noise will disrupt them? It's 4.40 am for god's sake! With all the money they waste on IT people I'm sure they could work out a notification system that reaches the residents. Even a warning on the road would have been fair in this case. It's not like the workmen don't come to prep at a point before the work is done. Obviously you can't please everyone but at the same time you should have some consideration and not to mention the rudeness of the workmen - the situation probably wouldn't have even appeared in the news if they had simply apologised to the people about the time "but it's necessary on busy roads and we'll be as quick as possible" but I guess it's a sign of the times that a little courtesy is too much to ask![/p][/quote]I agree about the notice, which I put in one of my earlier threads. I have noticed in other countries that work on road projects begins well before 7 / 8 am, but other countries send leaflets out well in advance. It seems that courtesy has suffered in the cut backs! Ernagy2
  • Score: -4

6:14pm Mon 14 Apr 14

owencoyle99 says...

The Righteous One wrote:
owencoyle99 wrote:
swa1958 wrote:
boydell wrote:
marco999 wrote:
Of course the residents complained and rightly so - it's the last thing you need in the middle of the night! The council were taking the pi55; they should have done the repairs at a more sociable time and had some consideration for their paying customers - that is the poor saps like you and me who need a good nights sleep before having to get up for work to earn the money to pay the expensive council tax in the first place.
What about the shift workers who need to get THEIR sleep through the day. They have to make the best of it. As well as road works being done they also have to put up with all the traffic, I am talking about the likes of nurses....., doctors..... firemen and the police. These are the people who really need a good sleep before starting work. We never hear them complain about the roadworks or the noisy traffic.
Get a grip all you moaners, the way you go on you would think it was going on for months instead of on one occasion.!!
Spot on. Traffic noise, kids playing in the street, ice cream vans, people mowing their grass and doing DIY in their gardens, all while the night worker is trying to sleep. Nobody gives a second thought then, why is this one-off event such a big deal? Get a grip.
What dummies - working thro the night is by choice
We are not bats owls or any other nocturnal animals we are human beings which go to bed at night and get up in the morning
Doing road repairs is unacceptable at this time of the night
It is the best tie of day to do repairs due to minimum disruption!!!! Or would you rather be stuck in traffic at temporary traffic lights, thus making you journey to/from work longer than normal?

let put it this way why is it such a disruption for 10-15 minutes 1 night out of 365 days in the year! Do you not think that those who HAVE to work night-shifts (such as those in A&E) should bee allowed to have quiet during the daytime, or are you one of those that expects A&E, and other hospital services, to be closed at night because as humans we are not meant to be awake at night.

I know lets make sure that women why are pregnant do not give birth in the middle of the night so not to interrupt your beauty sleep!!! OR shall we make sure that house fires do not happen in the night because firemen shouldn't be working???
Still a bunch of numpties
Obviously common sense does not come into the equation
[quote][p][bold]The Righteous One[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]owencoyle99[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]swa1958[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]boydell[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]marco999[/bold] wrote: Of course the residents complained and rightly so - it's the last thing you need in the middle of the night! The council were taking the pi55; they should have done the repairs at a more sociable time and had some consideration for their paying customers - that is the poor saps like you and me who need a good nights sleep before having to get up for work to earn the money to pay the expensive council tax in the first place.[/p][/quote]What about the shift workers who need to get THEIR sleep through the day. They have to make the best of it. As well as road works being done they also have to put up with all the traffic, I am talking about the likes of nurses....., doctors..... firemen and the police. These are the people who really need a good sleep before starting work. We never hear them complain about the roadworks or the noisy traffic. Get a grip all you moaners, the way you go on you would think it was going on for months instead of on one occasion.!![/p][/quote]Spot on. Traffic noise, kids playing in the street, ice cream vans, people mowing their grass and doing DIY in their gardens, all while the night worker is trying to sleep. Nobody gives a second thought then, why is this one-off event such a big deal? Get a grip.[/p][/quote]What dummies - working thro the night is by choice We are not bats owls or any other nocturnal animals we are human beings which go to bed at night and get up in the morning Doing road repairs is unacceptable at this time of the night[/p][/quote]It is the best tie of day to do repairs due to minimum disruption!!!! Or would you rather be stuck in traffic at temporary traffic lights, thus making you journey to/from work longer than normal? let put it this way why is it such a disruption for 10-15 minutes 1 night out of 365 days in the year! Do you not think that those who HAVE to work night-shifts (such as those in A&E) should bee allowed to have quiet during the daytime, or are you one of those that expects A&E, and other hospital services, to be closed at night because as humans we are not meant to be awake at night. I know lets make sure that women why are pregnant do not give birth in the middle of the night so not to interrupt your beauty sleep!!! OR shall we make sure that house fires do not happen in the night because firemen shouldn't be working???[/p][/quote]Still a bunch of numpties Obviously common sense does not come into the equation owencoyle99
  • Score: -1

8:02pm Mon 14 Apr 14

The Righteous One says...

owencoyle99 wrote:
The Righteous One wrote:
owencoyle99 wrote:
swa1958 wrote:
boydell wrote:
marco999 wrote:
Of course the residents complained and rightly so - it's the last thing you need in the middle of the night! The council were taking the pi55; they should have done the repairs at a more sociable time and had some consideration for their paying customers - that is the poor saps like you and me who need a good nights sleep before having to get up for work to earn the money to pay the expensive council tax in the first place.
What about the shift workers who need to get THEIR sleep through the day. They have to make the best of it. As well as road works being done they also have to put up with all the traffic, I am talking about the likes of nurses....., doctors..... firemen and the police. These are the people who really need a good sleep before starting work. We never hear them complain about the roadworks or the noisy traffic.
Get a grip all you moaners, the way you go on you would think it was going on for months instead of on one occasion.!!
Spot on. Traffic noise, kids playing in the street, ice cream vans, people mowing their grass and doing DIY in their gardens, all while the night worker is trying to sleep. Nobody gives a second thought then, why is this one-off event such a big deal? Get a grip.
What dummies - working thro the night is by choice
We are not bats owls or any other nocturnal animals we are human beings which go to bed at night and get up in the morning
Doing road repairs is unacceptable at this time of the night
It is the best tie of day to do repairs due to minimum disruption!!!! Or would you rather be stuck in traffic at temporary traffic lights, thus making you journey to/from work longer than normal?

let put it this way why is it such a disruption for 10-15 minutes 1 night out of 365 days in the year! Do you not think that those who HAVE to work night-shifts (such as those in A&E) should bee allowed to have quiet during the daytime, or are you one of those that expects A&E, and other hospital services, to be closed at night because as humans we are not meant to be awake at night.

I know lets make sure that women why are pregnant do not give birth in the middle of the night so not to interrupt your beauty sleep!!! OR shall we make sure that house fires do not happen in the night because firemen shouldn't be working???
Still a bunch of numpties
Obviously common sense does not come into the equation
A bunch of numpties why?

They are working and not collecting benefits

Plus they are doing a service which means that those going to/from work are not hindered or delayed.

15 minutes in any 24 hour period in a 365/6 day and you call that an inconvenience????

Where I used to live they did the streets repairs through the night, as well as railway engineering work with those halogen lamps but it meant there was no hassle for commuters in the morning!! And the only place they put up any signs was on the council website, which I bet if you check Bolton councils website there will be a timetable of works somewhere!
[quote][p][bold]owencoyle99[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Righteous One[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]owencoyle99[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]swa1958[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]boydell[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]marco999[/bold] wrote: Of course the residents complained and rightly so - it's the last thing you need in the middle of the night! The council were taking the pi55; they should have done the repairs at a more sociable time and had some consideration for their paying customers - that is the poor saps like you and me who need a good nights sleep before having to get up for work to earn the money to pay the expensive council tax in the first place.[/p][/quote]What about the shift workers who need to get THEIR sleep through the day. They have to make the best of it. As well as road works being done they also have to put up with all the traffic, I am talking about the likes of nurses....., doctors..... firemen and the police. These are the people who really need a good sleep before starting work. We never hear them complain about the roadworks or the noisy traffic. Get a grip all you moaners, the way you go on you would think it was going on for months instead of on one occasion.!![/p][/quote]Spot on. Traffic noise, kids playing in the street, ice cream vans, people mowing their grass and doing DIY in their gardens, all while the night worker is trying to sleep. Nobody gives a second thought then, why is this one-off event such a big deal? Get a grip.[/p][/quote]What dummies - working thro the night is by choice We are not bats owls or any other nocturnal animals we are human beings which go to bed at night and get up in the morning Doing road repairs is unacceptable at this time of the night[/p][/quote]It is the best tie of day to do repairs due to minimum disruption!!!! Or would you rather be stuck in traffic at temporary traffic lights, thus making you journey to/from work longer than normal? let put it this way why is it such a disruption for 10-15 minutes 1 night out of 365 days in the year! Do you not think that those who HAVE to work night-shifts (such as those in A&E) should bee allowed to have quiet during the daytime, or are you one of those that expects A&E, and other hospital services, to be closed at night because as humans we are not meant to be awake at night. I know lets make sure that women why are pregnant do not give birth in the middle of the night so not to interrupt your beauty sleep!!! OR shall we make sure that house fires do not happen in the night because firemen shouldn't be working???[/p][/quote]Still a bunch of numpties Obviously common sense does not come into the equation[/p][/quote]A bunch of numpties why? They are working and not collecting benefits Plus they are doing a service which means that those going to/from work are not hindered or delayed. 15 minutes in any 24 hour period in a 365/6 day and you call that an inconvenience???? Where I used to live they did the streets repairs through the night, as well as railway engineering work with those halogen lamps but it meant there was no hassle for commuters in the morning!! And the only place they put up any signs was on the council website, which I bet if you check Bolton councils website there will be a timetable of works somewhere! The Righteous One
  • Score: 0

11:24am Tue 15 Apr 14

Jim271 says...

If I was practising my bagpipe playing at 4am the council would sue me.
If I was practising my bagpipe playing at 4am the council would sue me. Jim271
  • Score: -2

9:59am Wed 16 Apr 14

boydell says...

Jim271 wrote:
If I was practising my bagpipe playing at 4am the council would sue me.
if you were practicing your bagpipes outside my window at 4.30 I would shove them up your jacksie, but if you were working I would let you get on with it........there is no comparison at all, talk sense man !!
[quote][p][bold]Jim271[/bold] wrote: If I was practising my bagpipe playing at 4am the council would sue me.[/p][/quote]if you were practicing your bagpipes outside my window at 4.30 I would shove them up your jacksie, but if you were working I would let you get on with it........there is no comparison at all, talk sense man !! boydell
  • Score: 0

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