Better planning needed to avoid national shortage of train carriages, warns MP

Commuters trying to get on a packed train at Bolton station

Commuters trying to get on a packed train at Bolton station

First published in News The Bolton News: Photograph of the Author by , politics reporter

MORE forward planning is needed by the government to avoid a national shortage of carriages, a Bolton MP has warned.

MP for Bolton West Julie Hilling chaired a Rail In The North meeting, where members of parliament from across the north shared their constituents’ horror stories of overcrowded services and outdated carriages.

The Bolton News received assurances from Prime Minister David Cameron that more carriages will be put on the services from December this year, following our Let’s Get Back on Track campaign.

But Ms Hilling said Bolton and towns across the north of England were victims of a lack of planning by the Department for Transport.

She said: “It is even more apparent that there is a national problem with diesel trains for the next five years, and we will be asking to meet with the secretary of state because there needs to be better planning at the top.

"We can’t continue this ad hoc approach.

"If you want new trains to be running in 2016, then you need to order them now. Really the problem is that nobody is even building diesel trains at the moment — even if operators wanted to buy them, they can’t because they are not compliant.”

An extra 200 seats will be added on Bolton’s morning rush-hour trains following the electrification of the Manchester to Liverpool line, which will free up diesel carriages.

The Bolton to Wigan railway line, running through Westhoughton, Hindley and Ince, will be electrified by 2017, and the electrification of the Manchester to Preston line is set to be completed by December 2016.

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10:04am Mon 14 Apr 14

Ernagy2 says...

The Bolton News yet again fails to realise that there is another line that runs through Bolton and doesn't go to Bolton station. There is no mention of whether the Daisy Hill Line is going to be electrified. Nor was there any mention of overcrowding on this line.

Worst still Julie Hilling Bolton North West MP doesn't seem to care about Daisy Hill and nor does it seem the prospective Conservative candidate.
The Bolton News yet again fails to realise that there is another line that runs through Bolton and doesn't go to Bolton station. There is no mention of whether the Daisy Hill Line is going to be electrified. Nor was there any mention of overcrowding on this line. Worst still Julie Hilling Bolton North West MP doesn't seem to care about Daisy Hill and nor does it seem the prospective Conservative candidate. Ernagy2
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10:09am Mon 14 Apr 14

The Righteous One says...

What does she mean in the next 5 years that the shortage will take place???

The shortage s NOW and is going to get worse.

Come January 2019 over 100 diesel trains will have to be withdrawn due to not being DDA compliant! Most of those units are Class 12 and Class 140 - aka bus trains and nodding donkeys and the majority of them operate here in the North West.

Yes electrification is taking place but not on all routes. Bolton to Clitheroe, Wigan to Southport, Wigan to Kirkby, Manchester Victoria to Wigan are just such examples of routes note being electrified and as such diesel trains are still required.

Even with the cascading of trains when the electrics come through (25+year old second hand clapped out electric units from Thameslink and are actually infested with cockroaches in the bodywork spaces!!!!) there will not be enough diesel units to operate the non-electrified routes!!!!

The order has to be placed now for final delivery before 209 plus lets not forget than once delivery has taken place then testing has to take place and then driver training so that when they do come into service it is seamless!!!

As for the guaranteed extra train unit that carries two hundred people, there is a letter in the comment section which states it all and this is the best bit, "As it is we lost one TransPennine train an hour (three coaches) and we had one train reduced from six coaches to three, thus in total during the rush hour we lost six coaches, meaning about 600 seats.

Yet we are meant to be grateful that we are getting 200 seats. We are still 400 seats short than what we had before the timetable changes, so no help with the overcrowding on the trains whatsoever."

We are thankful to get 200 more spaces, although we have lost 600 spaces!!!!!
What does she mean in the next 5 years that the shortage will take place??? The shortage s NOW and is going to get worse. Come January 2019 over 100 diesel trains will have to be withdrawn due to not being DDA compliant! Most of those units are Class 12 and Class 140 - aka bus trains and nodding donkeys and the majority of them operate here in the North West. Yes electrification is taking place but not on all routes. Bolton to Clitheroe, Wigan to Southport, Wigan to Kirkby, Manchester Victoria to Wigan are just such examples of routes note being electrified and as such diesel trains are still required. Even with the cascading of trains when the electrics come through (25+year old second hand clapped out electric units from Thameslink and are actually infested with cockroaches in the bodywork spaces!!!!) there will not be enough diesel units to operate the non-electrified routes!!!! The order has to be placed now for final delivery before 209 plus lets not forget than once delivery has taken place then testing has to take place and then driver training so that when they do come into service it is seamless!!! As for the guaranteed extra train unit that carries two hundred people, there is a letter in the comment section which states it all and this is the best bit, "As it is we lost one TransPennine train an hour (three coaches) and we had one train reduced from six coaches to three, thus in total during the rush hour we lost six coaches, meaning about 600 seats. Yet we are meant to be grateful that we are getting 200 seats. We are still 400 seats short than what we had before the timetable changes, so no help with the overcrowding on the trains whatsoever." We are thankful to get 200 more spaces, although we have lost 600 spaces!!!!! The Righteous One
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10:12am Mon 14 Apr 14

The Righteous One says...

Ernagy2 wrote:
The Bolton News yet again fails to realise that there is another line that runs through Bolton and doesn't go to Bolton station. There is no mention of whether the Daisy Hill Line is going to be electrified. Nor was there any mention of overcrowding on this line.

Worst still Julie Hilling Bolton North West MP doesn't seem to care about Daisy Hill and nor does it seem the prospective Conservative candidate.
The Daisy Hill line isn't going to be electrified!

Bolton line is, and then 12 months later the spur from Bolton to Wigan (WCML station) is going to be electrified, whilst the line from Manchester Piccadilly to Preston via Warrington and Wigan is already electrified and TPE's temporary ne trains are running! (temporary as they are only on loan, for 2 years, from a TOC in the south east)
[quote][p][bold]Ernagy2[/bold] wrote: The Bolton News yet again fails to realise that there is another line that runs through Bolton and doesn't go to Bolton station. There is no mention of whether the Daisy Hill Line is going to be electrified. Nor was there any mention of overcrowding on this line. Worst still Julie Hilling Bolton North West MP doesn't seem to care about Daisy Hill and nor does it seem the prospective Conservative candidate.[/p][/quote]The Daisy Hill line isn't going to be electrified! Bolton line is, and then 12 months later the spur from Bolton to Wigan (WCML station) is going to be electrified, whilst the line from Manchester Piccadilly to Preston via Warrington and Wigan is already electrified and TPE's temporary ne trains are running! (temporary as they are only on loan, for 2 years, from a TOC in the south east) The Righteous One
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10:51am Mon 14 Apr 14

Ernagy2 says...

The Righteous One wrote:
Ernagy2 wrote:
The Bolton News yet again fails to realise that there is another line that runs through Bolton and doesn't go to Bolton station. There is no mention of whether the Daisy Hill Line is going to be electrified. Nor was there any mention of overcrowding on this line.

Worst still Julie Hilling Bolton North West MP doesn't seem to care about Daisy Hill and nor does it seem the prospective Conservative candidate.
The Daisy Hill line isn't going to be electrified!

Bolton line is, and then 12 months later the spur from Bolton to Wigan (WCML station) is going to be electrified, whilst the line from Manchester Piccadilly to Preston via Warrington and Wigan is already electrified and TPE's temporary ne trains are running! (temporary as they are only on loan, for 2 years, from a TOC in the south east)
The most important point is there is overcrowding on the Daisy Hill Line and has the same problems as the people of Bolton and we should have a paper and an MP that stands up for Daisy Hill / Westhoughton constituents just as much as for the rest of Bolton. This part of the Town gets neglected particularly by our own MP. The concentration always seems to be on Bolton Town Centre and Horwich - there are other parts of the Town.
[quote][p][bold]The Righteous One[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ernagy2[/bold] wrote: The Bolton News yet again fails to realise that there is another line that runs through Bolton and doesn't go to Bolton station. There is no mention of whether the Daisy Hill Line is going to be electrified. Nor was there any mention of overcrowding on this line. Worst still Julie Hilling Bolton North West MP doesn't seem to care about Daisy Hill and nor does it seem the prospective Conservative candidate.[/p][/quote]The Daisy Hill line isn't going to be electrified! Bolton line is, and then 12 months later the spur from Bolton to Wigan (WCML station) is going to be electrified, whilst the line from Manchester Piccadilly to Preston via Warrington and Wigan is already electrified and TPE's temporary ne trains are running! (temporary as they are only on loan, for 2 years, from a TOC in the south east)[/p][/quote]The most important point is there is overcrowding on the Daisy Hill Line and has the same problems as the people of Bolton and we should have a paper and an MP that stands up for Daisy Hill / Westhoughton constituents just as much as for the rest of Bolton. This part of the Town gets neglected particularly by our own MP. The concentration always seems to be on Bolton Town Centre and Horwich - there are other parts of the Town. Ernagy2
  • Score: -1

10:57am Mon 14 Apr 14

The Righteous One says...

Ernagy2 wrote:
The Righteous One wrote:
Ernagy2 wrote:
The Bolton News yet again fails to realise that there is another line that runs through Bolton and doesn't go to Bolton station. There is no mention of whether the Daisy Hill Line is going to be electrified. Nor was there any mention of overcrowding on this line.

Worst still Julie Hilling Bolton North West MP doesn't seem to care about Daisy Hill and nor does it seem the prospective Conservative candidate.
The Daisy Hill line isn't going to be electrified!

Bolton line is, and then 12 months later the spur from Bolton to Wigan (WCML station) is going to be electrified, whilst the line from Manchester Piccadilly to Preston via Warrington and Wigan is already electrified and TPE's temporary ne trains are running! (temporary as they are only on loan, for 2 years, from a TOC in the south east)
The most important point is there is overcrowding on the Daisy Hill Line and has the same problems as the people of Bolton and we should have a paper and an MP that stands up for Daisy Hill / Westhoughton constituents just as much as for the rest of Bolton. This part of the Town gets neglected particularly by our own MP. The concentration always seems to be on Bolton Town Centre and Horwich - there are other parts of the Town.
Well the Westhoughton line IS going to be electrified and as such help with the overcrowding.

The Daisy Hill line is not going to get electrified and there are talks of the line becoming a "fast-tram" line and being taken out of the National Rail network!

http://www.tfgm.com/
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[quote][p][bold]Ernagy2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Righteous One[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ernagy2[/bold] wrote: The Bolton News yet again fails to realise that there is another line that runs through Bolton and doesn't go to Bolton station. There is no mention of whether the Daisy Hill Line is going to be electrified. Nor was there any mention of overcrowding on this line. Worst still Julie Hilling Bolton North West MP doesn't seem to care about Daisy Hill and nor does it seem the prospective Conservative candidate.[/p][/quote]The Daisy Hill line isn't going to be electrified! Bolton line is, and then 12 months later the spur from Bolton to Wigan (WCML station) is going to be electrified, whilst the line from Manchester Piccadilly to Preston via Warrington and Wigan is already electrified and TPE's temporary ne trains are running! (temporary as they are only on loan, for 2 years, from a TOC in the south east)[/p][/quote]The most important point is there is overcrowding on the Daisy Hill Line and has the same problems as the people of Bolton and we should have a paper and an MP that stands up for Daisy Hill / Westhoughton constituents just as much as for the rest of Bolton. This part of the Town gets neglected particularly by our own MP. The concentration always seems to be on Bolton Town Centre and Horwich - there are other parts of the Town.[/p][/quote]Well the Westhoughton line IS going to be electrified and as such help with the overcrowding. The Daisy Hill line is not going to get electrified and there are talks of the line becoming a "fast-tram" line and being taken out of the National Rail network! http://www.tfgm.com/ Corporate/media_cent re/Pages/News.aspx?a rticleId=346 The Righteous One
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11:11am Mon 14 Apr 14

Ernagy2 says...

The Righteous One wrote:
Ernagy2 wrote:
The Righteous One wrote:
Ernagy2 wrote:
The Bolton News yet again fails to realise that there is another line that runs through Bolton and doesn't go to Bolton station. There is no mention of whether the Daisy Hill Line is going to be electrified. Nor was there any mention of overcrowding on this line.

Worst still Julie Hilling Bolton North West MP doesn't seem to care about Daisy Hill and nor does it seem the prospective Conservative candidate.
The Daisy Hill line isn't going to be electrified!

Bolton line is, and then 12 months later the spur from Bolton to Wigan (WCML station) is going to be electrified, whilst the line from Manchester Piccadilly to Preston via Warrington and Wigan is already electrified and TPE's temporary ne trains are running! (temporary as they are only on loan, for 2 years, from a TOC in the south east)
The most important point is there is overcrowding on the Daisy Hill Line and has the same problems as the people of Bolton and we should have a paper and an MP that stands up for Daisy Hill / Westhoughton constituents just as much as for the rest of Bolton. This part of the Town gets neglected particularly by our own MP. The concentration always seems to be on Bolton Town Centre and Horwich - there are other parts of the Town.
Well the Westhoughton line IS going to be electrified and as such help with the overcrowding.

The Daisy Hill line is not going to get electrified and there are talks of the line becoming a "fast-tram" line and being taken out of the National Rail network!

http://www.tfgm.com/

Corporate/media_cent

re/Pages/News.aspx?a

rticleId=346
There have been rumours about it becoming a tram line for years. Even if it becomes a tramline it will have to be electrified - the trams in Manchester run on electric, not diesel. Also they do push the occasional Virgin train through our line when there are problems at Bolton, so I'm not sure that it will ever go to a tram line.

However, it doesn't deal with the very real problem of overcrowding on this line and the constituents at Daisy Hill have just as much right to attention as the rest of Bolton.
[quote][p][bold]The Righteous One[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ernagy2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Righteous One[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ernagy2[/bold] wrote: The Bolton News yet again fails to realise that there is another line that runs through Bolton and doesn't go to Bolton station. There is no mention of whether the Daisy Hill Line is going to be electrified. Nor was there any mention of overcrowding on this line. Worst still Julie Hilling Bolton North West MP doesn't seem to care about Daisy Hill and nor does it seem the prospective Conservative candidate.[/p][/quote]The Daisy Hill line isn't going to be electrified! Bolton line is, and then 12 months later the spur from Bolton to Wigan (WCML station) is going to be electrified, whilst the line from Manchester Piccadilly to Preston via Warrington and Wigan is already electrified and TPE's temporary ne trains are running! (temporary as they are only on loan, for 2 years, from a TOC in the south east)[/p][/quote]The most important point is there is overcrowding on the Daisy Hill Line and has the same problems as the people of Bolton and we should have a paper and an MP that stands up for Daisy Hill / Westhoughton constituents just as much as for the rest of Bolton. This part of the Town gets neglected particularly by our own MP. The concentration always seems to be on Bolton Town Centre and Horwich - there are other parts of the Town.[/p][/quote]Well the Westhoughton line IS going to be electrified and as such help with the overcrowding. The Daisy Hill line is not going to get electrified and there are talks of the line becoming a "fast-tram" line and being taken out of the National Rail network! http://www.tfgm.com/ Corporate/media_cent re/Pages/News.aspx?a rticleId=346[/p][/quote]There have been rumours about it becoming a tram line for years. Even if it becomes a tramline it will have to be electrified - the trams in Manchester run on electric, not diesel. Also they do push the occasional Virgin train through our line when there are problems at Bolton, so I'm not sure that it will ever go to a tram line. However, it doesn't deal with the very real problem of overcrowding on this line and the constituents at Daisy Hill have just as much right to attention as the rest of Bolton. Ernagy2
  • Score: -1

11:29am Mon 14 Apr 14

The Righteous One says...

Ernagy2 wrote:
The Righteous One wrote:
Ernagy2 wrote:
The Righteous One wrote:
Ernagy2 wrote:
The Bolton News yet again fails to realise that there is another line that runs through Bolton and doesn't go to Bolton station. There is no mention of whether the Daisy Hill Line is going to be electrified. Nor was there any mention of overcrowding on this line.

Worst still Julie Hilling Bolton North West MP doesn't seem to care about Daisy Hill and nor does it seem the prospective Conservative candidate.
The Daisy Hill line isn't going to be electrified!

Bolton line is, and then 12 months later the spur from Bolton to Wigan (WCML station) is going to be electrified, whilst the line from Manchester Piccadilly to Preston via Warrington and Wigan is already electrified and TPE's temporary ne trains are running! (temporary as they are only on loan, for 2 years, from a TOC in the south east)
The most important point is there is overcrowding on the Daisy Hill Line and has the same problems as the people of Bolton and we should have a paper and an MP that stands up for Daisy Hill / Westhoughton constituents just as much as for the rest of Bolton. This part of the Town gets neglected particularly by our own MP. The concentration always seems to be on Bolton Town Centre and Horwich - there are other parts of the Town.
Well the Westhoughton line IS going to be electrified and as such help with the overcrowding.

The Daisy Hill line is not going to get electrified and there are talks of the line becoming a "fast-tram" line and being taken out of the National Rail network!

http://www.tfgm.com/


Corporate/media_cent


re/Pages/News.aspx?a


rticleId=346
There have been rumours about it becoming a tram line for years. Even if it becomes a tramline it will have to be electrified - the trams in Manchester run on electric, not diesel. Also they do push the occasional Virgin train through our line when there are problems at Bolton, so I'm not sure that it will ever go to a tram line.

However, it doesn't deal with the very real problem of overcrowding on this line and the constituents at Daisy Hill have just as much right to attention as the rest of Bolton.
I am not disagreeing but it basically comes down to the MPs and councillors for Salford and Wigan as Daisy Hill is the only "Bolton" station on the line and the councillors will only say to use Westhoughton or Horwich Parkway - like I have been told to travel to Horwich parkway to park up, when Bolton station car park closes, although I live just off Bury Road!!!!!

Bolton stations, on the whole, has seen an average increase of over 130% in passenger numbers since the start of the franchise in 2004, Daisy has seen an increase of only 70% - not that it isn' a lot it is.

The Atherton line only tend to use the Class 142's which have to be withdrawn come January 2019! But Northern have been told by the train leasing company and DfT that they have to hand over some of their class 15X to First TPE, so the problem is much bigger than just getting a promise of extra carriages in the cascading effect!!! Therefore the use of the shorter Class 142's will continue!!!

Like I said Bolton in the timetable change has lost 600 passenger spaces in the peak time, whilst Wigan has increased by 400! But Bolton has been promised an extra 200 passenger spaces in the peaks, which still leaves the trains over 400 spaces short!!! The Atherton line hasn't lost any passenger spaces, which is a miracle

The people to blame are actually the DfT for not planning ahead and only concentrating on the London market, hence the huge problem outside London, and not just here in the North West!!! Although, currently, it is the Bolton line which is the worst for overcrowding in the country - beating any line in London for it!!!
[quote][p][bold]Ernagy2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Righteous One[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ernagy2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Righteous One[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ernagy2[/bold] wrote: The Bolton News yet again fails to realise that there is another line that runs through Bolton and doesn't go to Bolton station. There is no mention of whether the Daisy Hill Line is going to be electrified. Nor was there any mention of overcrowding on this line. Worst still Julie Hilling Bolton North West MP doesn't seem to care about Daisy Hill and nor does it seem the prospective Conservative candidate.[/p][/quote]The Daisy Hill line isn't going to be electrified! Bolton line is, and then 12 months later the spur from Bolton to Wigan (WCML station) is going to be electrified, whilst the line from Manchester Piccadilly to Preston via Warrington and Wigan is already electrified and TPE's temporary ne trains are running! (temporary as they are only on loan, for 2 years, from a TOC in the south east)[/p][/quote]The most important point is there is overcrowding on the Daisy Hill Line and has the same problems as the people of Bolton and we should have a paper and an MP that stands up for Daisy Hill / Westhoughton constituents just as much as for the rest of Bolton. This part of the Town gets neglected particularly by our own MP. The concentration always seems to be on Bolton Town Centre and Horwich - there are other parts of the Town.[/p][/quote]Well the Westhoughton line IS going to be electrified and as such help with the overcrowding. The Daisy Hill line is not going to get electrified and there are talks of the line becoming a "fast-tram" line and being taken out of the National Rail network! http://www.tfgm.com/ Corporate/media_cent re/Pages/News.aspx?a rticleId=346[/p][/quote]There have been rumours about it becoming a tram line for years. Even if it becomes a tramline it will have to be electrified - the trams in Manchester run on electric, not diesel. Also they do push the occasional Virgin train through our line when there are problems at Bolton, so I'm not sure that it will ever go to a tram line. However, it doesn't deal with the very real problem of overcrowding on this line and the constituents at Daisy Hill have just as much right to attention as the rest of Bolton.[/p][/quote]I am not disagreeing but it basically comes down to the MPs and councillors for Salford and Wigan as Daisy Hill is the only "Bolton" station on the line and the councillors will only say to use Westhoughton or Horwich Parkway - like I have been told to travel to Horwich parkway to park up, when Bolton station car park closes, although I live just off Bury Road!!!!! Bolton stations, on the whole, has seen an average increase of over 130% in passenger numbers since the start of the franchise in 2004, Daisy has seen an increase of only 70% - not that it isn' a lot it is. The Atherton line only tend to use the Class 142's which have to be withdrawn come January 2019! But Northern have been told by the train leasing company and DfT that they have to hand over some of their class 15X to First TPE, so the problem is much bigger than just getting a promise of extra carriages in the cascading effect!!! Therefore the use of the shorter Class 142's will continue!!! Like I said Bolton in the timetable change has lost 600 passenger spaces in the peak time, whilst Wigan has increased by 400! But Bolton has been promised an extra 200 passenger spaces in the peaks, which still leaves the trains over 400 spaces short!!! The Atherton line hasn't lost any passenger spaces, which is a miracle The people to blame are actually the DfT for not planning ahead and only concentrating on the London market, hence the huge problem outside London, and not just here in the North West!!! Although, currently, it is the Bolton line which is the worst for overcrowding in the country - beating any line in London for it!!! The Righteous One
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1:02pm Mon 14 Apr 14

Southfield 62 says...

Someone has done some planning somewhere. There are currently 2500 new carriages on order for the network. Just a pity that about 1500 of them will never get past Watford, and the rest (except 40) are either for the great western lines or the east coast lines. Of the 40, none will see Bolton as they are for Man Airport to Glasgow via Wigan. Fantastic planning unless you happen to live in Northern England. Can we get fracking, keep the taxes and buy some new trains.
Someone has done some planning somewhere. There are currently 2500 new carriages on order for the network. Just a pity that about 1500 of them will never get past Watford, and the rest (except 40) are either for the great western lines or the east coast lines. Of the 40, none will see Bolton as they are for Man Airport to Glasgow via Wigan. Fantastic planning unless you happen to live in Northern England. Can we get fracking, keep the taxes and buy some new trains. Southfield 62
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1:35pm Mon 14 Apr 14

MalcM59 says...

As I've commented on other threads, if the electrifcation of the Manchester - Euxton line is completed on time, I will plait fog, or any other un-plaitable material for that matter...Tad over 30 months left until the end of 2016 deadline, and not a single sign of any work having commenced along the entire route.
As I've commented on other threads, if the electrifcation of the Manchester - Euxton line is completed on time, I will plait fog, or any other un-plaitable material for that matter...Tad over 30 months left until the end of 2016 deadline, and not a single sign of any work having commenced along the entire route. MalcM59
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10:25pm Tue 15 Apr 14

Valiant One says...

Ernagy2 wrote:
The Righteous One wrote:
Ernagy2 wrote:
The Bolton News yet again fails to realise that there is another line that runs through Bolton and doesn't go to Bolton station. There is no mention of whether the Daisy Hill Line is going to be electrified. Nor was there any mention of overcrowding on this line.

Worst still Julie Hilling Bolton North West MP doesn't seem to care about Daisy Hill and nor does it seem the prospective Conservative candidate.
The Daisy Hill line isn't going to be electrified!

Bolton line is, and then 12 months later the spur from Bolton to Wigan (WCML station) is going to be electrified, whilst the line from Manchester Piccadilly to Preston via Warrington and Wigan is already electrified and TPE's temporary ne trains are running! (temporary as they are only on loan, for 2 years, from a TOC in the south east)
The most important point is there is overcrowding on the Daisy Hill Line and has the same problems as the people of Bolton and we should have a paper and an MP that stands up for Daisy Hill / Westhoughton constituents just as much as for the rest of Bolton. This part of the Town gets neglected particularly by our own MP. The concentration always seems to be on Bolton Town Centre and Horwich - there are other parts of the Town.
Ernagy 2, I would point out that our MP Julie Hilling has her constituency office on Market Street in Westhoughton. I've seen her on Market Street loys of times at weekends. She has a surgery there too. Perhaps you could visit her and tell her your problems.
[quote][p][bold]Ernagy2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Righteous One[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ernagy2[/bold] wrote: The Bolton News yet again fails to realise that there is another line that runs through Bolton and doesn't go to Bolton station. There is no mention of whether the Daisy Hill Line is going to be electrified. Nor was there any mention of overcrowding on this line. Worst still Julie Hilling Bolton North West MP doesn't seem to care about Daisy Hill and nor does it seem the prospective Conservative candidate.[/p][/quote]The Daisy Hill line isn't going to be electrified! Bolton line is, and then 12 months later the spur from Bolton to Wigan (WCML station) is going to be electrified, whilst the line from Manchester Piccadilly to Preston via Warrington and Wigan is already electrified and TPE's temporary ne trains are running! (temporary as they are only on loan, for 2 years, from a TOC in the south east)[/p][/quote]The most important point is there is overcrowding on the Daisy Hill Line and has the same problems as the people of Bolton and we should have a paper and an MP that stands up for Daisy Hill / Westhoughton constituents just as much as for the rest of Bolton. This part of the Town gets neglected particularly by our own MP. The concentration always seems to be on Bolton Town Centre and Horwich - there are other parts of the Town.[/p][/quote]Ernagy 2, I would point out that our MP Julie Hilling has her constituency office on Market Street in Westhoughton. I've seen her on Market Street loys of times at weekends. She has a surgery there too. Perhaps you could visit her and tell her your problems. Valiant One
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