Full meeting of Bolton Council - April 16, 2014
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- Live updates from the last full council meeting before the local and European elections on May 22.
- The meeting is due to start at 7pm, and topics up for discussion are:
- Cllr Mudasir Dean’s call for all schools in Bolton to fly the union flag and sing the national anthem at assemblies.
- Whether to limit the number of lap dancing clubs and sexual entertainment venues across Bolton.
- Cllr Kate Lewis’ bid to tackle the effects of fixed odds betting terminals – dubbed "the crack cocaine of gambling".
And we're done. Thanks all for following and make sure you check Friday's paper for a full round up of all the stories and reaction.
Motion passed unanimously.
Cllr Jones said these machines target vulnerable members of society who chase the dream of a quick buck
(Motion also proposes writing to Maria Miller MP... not sure that would work so well any more!)
If approved, the motion will mean this council will write to the government to demand urgent action against fixed betting odds terminals, and to create a separate planning class for betting shops
Says there is a 'farce' that pubs need a licence for more than 2 gambling machines, but bookies can have four with no regulation
Cllr Bob Allen supporting this. Says he has first hand experience of being told there's no food on the table because a family member has blown away their earnings gambling.
Gone to a vote - and it's approved. Next up is an interesting one from Cllr Lewis on restricting the proliferation of fixed odds betting terminals.
Cllr Walsh back on his feet to challenge Cllr Harkin's "flights of fantasy". Says Tories can't put right in three years what Lavour did wrong in 13 years.
We will support the motion because we want more trains, Cllr Harkin adds, but warns against backing Cllr Walsh because he's been "consistently wrong" on any issue in the council in the last 30 years.
Cllr Guy Harkin calling on Cllr Walsh to 'smell the coffee'. "There has been a whole sale transfer of resources from the north west of England", he said.
The carriages that Bolton will receive are 27 years old, he adds, and train drivers will need to be trained up on them
Cllr David Chadwick speaking against it. Saying it doesn't recognise the hars work of Bolton's three MPs, and also doesn't acknowledge the fact that a First Transpennine Express during the morning has been lost
Cllr John Walsh moving his motion now - welcoming the pledge from PM Cameron to bring more carriages on the Bolton trains in the early morning
33 votes for, 12 abstained, four against (correction - it was actually 34 for, 11 abstentions and four against)
MOTION IS CARRIED
Cllr Dean responding now - and we're going to a vote.
Cllr Greenhalgh speaking very passionately for the motion. Said this country is very patriotic when given the opportunity - and what better way then to normalise that when at school. They won't be forced - and the cost of flag poles shouldn't be an excuse.
Also says he, too, is relaxed - Frankie Goes To Hollywood should be the sound track to this debate
Cllr Greenhalgh agreeing it is political - to claps from Labour!
Cllr Morris saying Labour group have a free vote - and he'll be voting for it. The Union Jack flies outside the Town Hall every day .
Cllr Morgan saying he's 'flabbergasted' that flying the Union Jack could be deemed un-British.
Cllr Cox said he detects "angst" from Labour about this motion. "I think you should relax about it", he says, which ironically enough has made the Labour bench quite vocal
"If we in Bolton ask schools to do this - then what happens when their parents object?" she said. Also - God save the Queen!
He's going to abstain. Cllr Ismail speaking, says it IS a political motion - but she's going to support it (with reservations)
Cllr Kevin McKeon speaking now "as a teacher". Said the motion is an 'american' thing to do - it's a cultural thing.
Also saying he believes the national anthem is more special when it's heard just on special occasions - like the Olympics
Said budgets are very tight, will there be extra money to fund new flags if Scotland leave the union? And is there time to sing the national anthem during assemblies?
Cllr Peacock now. Admitting to singing along at the last night of the proms. But saying it's 'un-British' to ask schools to do this - "i don't see why we have to write to schools to tell them to do something they can already do."
Cllr Radlin speaking now, says he has concerns about the motion. "Why in this country do we not having the Union Jack flying from the Town Hall, but also libraries and post offices?"
Also arguing that singing the national anthem would help integration of new people.
Adding he believes that the national anthem should be a part of everyday life. Generations of young children don't know the words of God Save The Queen, he says.
Saying it is unacceptable that the Union Jack has been hijacked by far right groups. "Events of recent years have shown that we can be proud of our nation and can be patriotic"
Cllr Dean saying when his grandfather moved to Bolton from India the countey was more patriotic
Jeers when he says it's not a political motion - Cllr Peel saying "You're afraid of UKIP"
Right here we go - Cllr Dean getting up to speak.
Still approving minutes...
We're almost on to the fun stuff
Now approving the minutes of the planning committee & licensing committee
Leader Cllr Morris responding - he says Cllr Walsh's study is out of date, and that the coalition government targeted local government funding from the moment they were elected. "There are statistics and statistics - and then there is John Walsh's statistics" he says.
Cllr John Walsh bringing up a study into deprivation, showing Bolton is lagging behind in closing the gap between the richest and poorest.
Cllr Nick Peel moving to change the sex establishment policy. - this is looking at limiting the licencing of sexual entertainment venues (lap dancing clubs etc) so it's harder for more to open. It's been passed too.l with no debate.
Now Cllr Cliff Morris moving the quaretrrly report on executive decisions. No debate, passed.
Next item - confirming the minutes of the last meeting - Ayes all around
Cllr John Walsh adding his thoughts: "Mr Mayor, you have mantained the highest possible standard."
Vote of thanks for the Mayor now, led by Cllr Connell. "You have been wonderful ambassadors for Bolton", she says.
Paul Howard being welcomed - he is the new man in charge of complaints handling at the council.
And we're off. Prayers and the Mayor has taken his seat.
It's also the final council meeting for the outgoing Mayor of Bolton Cllr Colin Shaw and his wife and Mayoress Dee. Cllr Martin Donaghey will take over the pist for 2014-15.
A few interesting things on the agenda tonight - most noticeable Cllr Dean's bid to see all schools in Bolton raise the Union Jack over their grounds. I'm hearing that this has caused a bit of a stir among councillors, we'll wait and see how they vote
Evening all and welcome to full council - the last one before the local and European elections. The councillors are taking their seats and we're almost ready to get started.
The meeting is due to start at 7pm.
Good afternoon. There's an interesting set of items on tonight's agenda, including sex shops, lap dancing and gambling. And let's not forget patriotic Cllr Mudasir Dean's bid to get all schools in Bolton to fly the union flag and have children regularly singing the national anthem.
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