Screen wars: Rival shopping centres clash over competing Bolton town centre cinema plans

The Bolton News: Screen wars: Rival shopping centres clash over competing Bolton town centre cinema plans Screen wars: Rival shopping centres clash over competing Bolton town centre cinema plans

THE Market Place will be transformed into a cinema, shopping, restaurant and bar complex — despite strong objection and the threat of legal action from rival centre Crompton Place.

Both have submitted plans to build a cinema in the past year, with a promise to regenerate the town centre and make it more family-friendly in the evenings.

And yesterday councillors on Bolton Council’s planning committee unanimously approved the Market Place’s three applications — despite Santander, the owners of Crompton Place, insisting it was not the right location for a cinema.

The Moorgarth group, which owns the Market Place, can now start work opening up the vaulted basements to make way for restaurants and bars and building a nine-screen cinema, run by Light Cinemas, by partially demolishing the existing car park.

Moorgarth also received listed building consent to create new shop fronts in the Grade-II listed Market Hall, relocate listed telephone boxes in Bridge Street and create a new atrium roof at junction between the Market Hall and North Mall Planning permission had been given in January to build a cinema, but Moorgarth had to take the application back to committee following a change in the design.


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It has emerged that Santander, the owner of Crompton Place, had requested a judicial review of this decision but this was knocked back last week.

In the run-up to the latest planning meeting, Santander also wrote a strongly-worded letter to town hall bosses claiming there was room for only one cinema in Bolton’s centre — and that Crompton Place was the superior scheme, having attracted interest from major operators Odeon and Reel.

The application is set to be debated at committee within the next few months.

Paul Till, regional director of Le Salles Investment Management, which represents Santander, said: “There is limited capacity and it is essential the optimum site and scheme is chosen which would secure the development plan objective to bring about regeneration.

“If planning permission is granted for the sub-optimal Market Place scheme and that fails to attract a national cinema operator, as is the clear position, regeneration objectives will be thwarted as a second cinema including national operators will not be developed.

“These national operators will then turn their back on Bolton.”

Speaking at committee, chief executive of Moorgarth Tim Vaughan said the firm was absolutely committed to bring its plans to realisation and make Market Place a ‘regional’ destination.

He added: “We have had various meeting with significant organisations in Bolton town centre, including the university, the college, schools and businesses like Asons, one of the largest employers in the town.

“All of them have given us resounding approval.

“Speaking to Asons, they have explained to us they are concerned about the retention of staff, as there’s nothing for people to do at lunch-time or after work.

“We are hoping that our proposal will provide the solution in part for the council.

“The cinema operator we have in place is absolutely first class.”

Leader of Bolton Council Cllr Cliff Morris commended the scheme, saying it will bring families back into the town centre at night.

He added: “For one thing, this is private investment in our town centre.

“They are showing us they will invest in our town centre and I think we should welcome it with open arms.

“It is a great lift for Bolton at this time.”

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6:14am Fri 2 May 14

Our streets says...

Instead of a cinema why don't Crompton place go for a bowling alley instead !!
Instead of both shopping places competing for cinemas!!
Instead of a cinema why don't Crompton place go for a bowling alley instead !! Instead of both shopping places competing for cinemas!! Our streets
  • Score: 55

6:22am Fri 2 May 14

oftbewildered2 says...

When I (and thousands others) worked in Trafford Park there was nothing for the workers to do during meal breaks or after work either - but nobody thought anything of it. If the only criteria for staff retention is that there are these facilities, then Asons have problems. As for the battle of the location of the cinema - let the BN have one of their famous votes (the ones which I am still wondering what they do with the results!!!)
When I (and thousands others) worked in Trafford Park there was nothing for the workers to do during meal breaks or after work either - but nobody thought anything of it. If the only criteria for staff retention is that there are these facilities, then Asons have problems. As for the battle of the location of the cinema - let the BN have one of their famous votes (the ones which I am still wondering what they do with the results!!!) oftbewildered2
  • Score: 8

6:52am Fri 2 May 14

breightmet kid says...

We will have a town centre cinema so why doesnt Crompton Placxe go for something different. A bowling alley would be a great idea or a decent music venue.

I note we have plenty of 'cheap multi national eateries' but no fine dining establishments. Some people do like to each proper grub.

And what plans are being made to make the night time town centre friendly to older people?

If there is to be a 'collection point' at the Market Place how much is kit going to cost to alter the road system and who is going to pay for this?
We will have a town centre cinema so why doesnt Crompton Placxe go for something different. A bowling alley would be a great idea or a decent music venue. I note we have plenty of 'cheap multi national eateries' but no fine dining establishments. Some people do like to each proper grub. And what plans are being made to make the night time town centre friendly to older people? If there is to be a 'collection point' at the Market Place how much is kit going to cost to alter the road system and who is going to pay for this? breightmet kid
  • Score: 28

7:51am Fri 2 May 14

Bob Shaftoe says...

Not bothered about this either way. What does concern me is the monstrosity of a building, namely the mosque, that was kept from public knowledge almost up to the planning meeting where it was waved through without much debate because no one in Farnworth, except muslims of course, knew anything about it. Absolutely staggering, totally undemocratic and if anything requires investigation this is it. So come on BN, get off your backsides and do some proper investigative reporting, even though it is the view of many in this town that you are in the pockets of the Labour Party.
Not bothered about this either way. What does concern me is the monstrosity of a building, namely the mosque, that was kept from public knowledge almost up to the planning meeting where it was waved through without much debate because no one in Farnworth, except muslims of course, knew anything about it. Absolutely staggering, totally undemocratic and if anything requires investigation this is it. So come on BN, get off your backsides and do some proper investigative reporting, even though it is the view of many in this town that you are in the pockets of the Labour Party. Bob Shaftoe
  • Score: 5

8:41am Fri 2 May 14

Tim Burr says...

Bob Shaftoe wrote:
Not bothered about this either way. What does concern me is the monstrosity of a building, namely the mosque, that was kept from public knowledge almost up to the planning meeting where it was waved through without much debate because no one in Farnworth, except muslims of course, knew anything about it. Absolutely staggering, totally undemocratic and if anything requires investigation this is it. So come on BN, get off your backsides and do some proper investigative reporting, even though it is the view of many in this town that you are in the pockets of the Labour Party.
It wasn't kept from public knowledge - the public notice was published in this Newspaper in January this year.
[quote][p][bold]Bob Shaftoe[/bold] wrote: Not bothered about this either way. What does concern me is the monstrosity of a building, namely the mosque, that was kept from public knowledge almost up to the planning meeting where it was waved through without much debate because no one in Farnworth, except muslims of course, knew anything about it. Absolutely staggering, totally undemocratic and if anything requires investigation this is it. So come on BN, get off your backsides and do some proper investigative reporting, even though it is the view of many in this town that you are in the pockets of the Labour Party.[/p][/quote]It wasn't kept from public knowledge - the public notice was published in this Newspaper in January this year. Tim Burr
  • Score: 28

8:45am Fri 2 May 14

Bob Shaftoe says...

Tim Burr wrote:
Bob Shaftoe wrote:
Not bothered about this either way. What does concern me is the monstrosity of a building, namely the mosque, that was kept from public knowledge almost up to the planning meeting where it was waved through without much debate because no one in Farnworth, except muslims of course, knew anything about it. Absolutely staggering, totally undemocratic and if anything requires investigation this is it. So come on BN, get off your backsides and do some proper investigative reporting, even though it is the view of many in this town that you are in the pockets of the Labour Party.
It wasn't kept from public knowledge - the public notice was published in this Newspaper in January this year.
What page councillor?
[quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bob Shaftoe[/bold] wrote: Not bothered about this either way. What does concern me is the monstrosity of a building, namely the mosque, that was kept from public knowledge almost up to the planning meeting where it was waved through without much debate because no one in Farnworth, except muslims of course, knew anything about it. Absolutely staggering, totally undemocratic and if anything requires investigation this is it. So come on BN, get off your backsides and do some proper investigative reporting, even though it is the view of many in this town that you are in the pockets of the Labour Party.[/p][/quote]It wasn't kept from public knowledge - the public notice was published in this Newspaper in January this year.[/p][/quote]What page councillor? Bob Shaftoe
  • Score: -22

8:59am Fri 2 May 14

BlueRay79 says...

Bob Shaftoe wrote:
Not bothered about this either way. What does concern me is the monstrosity of a building, namely the mosque, that was kept from public knowledge almost up to the planning meeting where it was waved through without much debate because no one in Farnworth, except muslims of course, knew anything about it. Absolutely staggering, totally undemocratic and if anything requires investigation this is it. So come on BN, get off your backsides and do some proper investigative reporting, even though it is the view of many in this town that you are in the pockets of the Labour Party.
Which mosque? A new one? Where is it being built?
[quote][p][bold]Bob Shaftoe[/bold] wrote: Not bothered about this either way. What does concern me is the monstrosity of a building, namely the mosque, that was kept from public knowledge almost up to the planning meeting where it was waved through without much debate because no one in Farnworth, except muslims of course, knew anything about it. Absolutely staggering, totally undemocratic and if anything requires investigation this is it. So come on BN, get off your backsides and do some proper investigative reporting, even though it is the view of many in this town that you are in the pockets of the Labour Party.[/p][/quote]Which mosque? A new one? Where is it being built? BlueRay79
  • Score: 5

9:13am Fri 2 May 14

MarkAllRead says...

People won't stand for being shown half an hour of adverts before the film starts when they're being charged per hour to park their car.
People won't stand for being shown half an hour of adverts before the film starts when they're being charged per hour to park their car. MarkAllRead
  • Score: 28

9:16am Fri 2 May 14

MissPeg says...

Sounds like sour grapes to me because they didn't get in there first.

This is about what's best for Bolton, not what's best for a corporation like Santander. As has been discussed on here many times - there are other leisure options for the Crompton Place to consider, but at least they recognise that this town ain't big enough for two cinemas.

And this has absolutely NOTHING to do with a mosque being REBUILT (key word here) in Farnworth.
Sounds like sour grapes to me because they didn't get in there first. This is about what's best for Bolton, not what's best for a corporation like Santander. As has been discussed on here many times - there are other leisure options for the Crompton Place to consider, but at least they recognise that this town ain't big enough for two cinemas. And this has absolutely NOTHING to do with a mosque being REBUILT (key word here) in Farnworth. MissPeg
  • Score: 27

9:38am Fri 2 May 14

Bob Shaftoe says...

BlueRay79 wrote:
Bob Shaftoe wrote:
Not bothered about this either way. What does concern me is the monstrosity of a building, namely the mosque, that was kept from public knowledge almost up to the planning meeting where it was waved through without much debate because no one in Farnworth, except muslims of course, knew anything about it. Absolutely staggering, totally undemocratic and if anything requires investigation this is it. So come on BN, get off your backsides and do some proper investigative reporting, even though it is the view of many in this town that you are in the pockets of the Labour Party.
Which mosque? A new one? Where is it being built?
See what I mean Nobody knows about it,? There was a diagram in Wednesday BN, the day before the planning committee. It's being built on Egerton Street, Farnworth, where there is a current mosque, but this thing is akin to the monstrosity on Daubhill. Talk about out of place!
[quote][p][bold]BlueRay79[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bob Shaftoe[/bold] wrote: Not bothered about this either way. What does concern me is the monstrosity of a building, namely the mosque, that was kept from public knowledge almost up to the planning meeting where it was waved through without much debate because no one in Farnworth, except muslims of course, knew anything about it. Absolutely staggering, totally undemocratic and if anything requires investigation this is it. So come on BN, get off your backsides and do some proper investigative reporting, even though it is the view of many in this town that you are in the pockets of the Labour Party.[/p][/quote]Which mosque? A new one? Where is it being built?[/p][/quote]See what I mean Nobody knows about it,? There was a diagram in Wednesday BN, the day before the planning committee. It's being built on Egerton Street, Farnworth, where there is a current mosque, but this thing is akin to the monstrosity on Daubhill. Talk about out of place! Bob Shaftoe
  • Score: 40

9:38am Fri 2 May 14

Tim Burr says...

Bob Shaftoe wrote:
Tim Burr wrote:
Bob Shaftoe wrote:
Not bothered about this either way. What does concern me is the monstrosity of a building, namely the mosque, that was kept from public knowledge almost up to the planning meeting where it was waved through without much debate because no one in Farnworth, except muslims of course, knew anything about it. Absolutely staggering, totally undemocratic and if anything requires investigation this is it. So come on BN, get off your backsides and do some proper investigative reporting, even though it is the view of many in this town that you are in the pockets of the Labour Party.
It wasn't kept from public knowledge - the public notice was published in this Newspaper in January this year.
What page councillor?
Public Notices.
[quote][p][bold]Bob Shaftoe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bob Shaftoe[/bold] wrote: Not bothered about this either way. What does concern me is the monstrosity of a building, namely the mosque, that was kept from public knowledge almost up to the planning meeting where it was waved through without much debate because no one in Farnworth, except muslims of course, knew anything about it. Absolutely staggering, totally undemocratic and if anything requires investigation this is it. So come on BN, get off your backsides and do some proper investigative reporting, even though it is the view of many in this town that you are in the pockets of the Labour Party.[/p][/quote]It wasn't kept from public knowledge - the public notice was published in this Newspaper in January this year.[/p][/quote]What page councillor?[/p][/quote]Public Notices. Tim Burr
  • Score: 15

9:41am Fri 2 May 14

Bob Shaftoe says...

MissPeg wrote:
Sounds like sour grapes to me because they didn't get in there first.

This is about what's best for Bolton, not what's best for a corporation like Santander. As has been discussed on here many times - there are other leisure options for the Crompton Place to consider, but at least they recognise that this town ain't big enough for two cinemas.

And this has absolutely NOTHING to do with a mosque being REBUILT (key word here) in Farnworth.
So BN open a debate about it, this is going to go viral.
[quote][p][bold]MissPeg[/bold] wrote: Sounds like sour grapes to me because they didn't get in there first. This is about what's best for Bolton, not what's best for a corporation like Santander. As has been discussed on here many times - there are other leisure options for the Crompton Place to consider, but at least they recognise that this town ain't big enough for two cinemas. And this has absolutely NOTHING to do with a mosque being REBUILT (key word here) in Farnworth.[/p][/quote]So BN open a debate about it, this is going to go viral. Bob Shaftoe
  • Score: 25

10:03am Fri 2 May 14

Jim271 says...

Judging by Bolton Council why not open a Bollywood Cinema?
Judging by Bolton Council why not open a Bollywood Cinema? Jim271
  • Score: 49

10:30am Fri 2 May 14

LordLeverhulme says...

I think it's safe to say that if the Market Place hadn't suggested having a cinema then Crompton Place would have never even considered it.
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Sour grapes.
I think it's safe to say that if the Market Place hadn't suggested having a cinema then Crompton Place would have never even considered it. . Sour grapes. LordLeverhulme
  • Score: 19

10:40am Fri 2 May 14

The Righteous One says...

Jim271 wrote:
Judging by Bolton Council why not open a Bollywood Cinema?
FFSJim271 - get off your high-horse.


The mosque that is being rebuilt in Farnworth was published in this paper in January and was also on the Councils webpage - just like EVERY planning application is weeks before its approved or not, so that people could, if wanted, give appropriate objections!

If you feel that upset about a mosque being built, then why not go and fund for a new Christian Church to be built next to it (any of the 30+ Christian religions in this country).

Instead of moaning, why not take some positive action for a change!!!



As for the cinema developments. Market Place will win this one. Santander ought to look at alternatives that will help the evening family economy of the town - such as bowling alley or ice-skating rink, roller-skating venue, middle to high-class eateries. Plenty of options to choose from but as they will probably mean more money which Santander will probably find difficult to find/fund!
[quote][p][bold]Jim271[/bold] wrote: Judging by Bolton Council why not open a Bollywood Cinema?[/p][/quote]FFSJim271 - get off your high-horse. The mosque that is being rebuilt in Farnworth was published in this paper in January and was also on the Councils webpage - just like EVERY planning application is weeks before its approved or not, so that people could, if wanted, give appropriate objections! If you feel that upset about a mosque being built, then why not go and fund for a new Christian Church to be built next to it (any of the 30+ Christian religions in this country). Instead of moaning, why not take some positive action for a change!!! As for the cinema developments. Market Place will win this one. Santander ought to look at alternatives that will help the evening family economy of the town - such as bowling alley or ice-skating rink, roller-skating venue, middle to high-class eateries. Plenty of options to choose from but as they will probably mean more money which Santander will probably find difficult to find/fund! The Righteous One
  • Score: 2

11:09am Fri 2 May 14

Bob Shaftoe says...

I see the BN resident tool's jumped out of his box. Where've you been.
The mosque application is an absolute eyesore, nothing to do with religion.
How would you like this built in Darcy Lever?
I see the BN resident tool's jumped out of his box. Where've you been. The mosque application is an absolute eyesore, nothing to do with religion. How would you like this built in Darcy Lever? Bob Shaftoe
  • Score: -3

11:18am Fri 2 May 14

Dr Doo Little says...

I object... What's wrong with Middlebrook? Which is barely up road, why have drunk teenagers loitering making nuisance urinating in doorways of business to deal with in morning .Then as a contributing tax payer I will be paying to take them home, hospital or Police station.
It will be another flop for Bolton a waste of investors money...
Leave our ghost town at peace.
I object... What's wrong with Middlebrook? Which is barely up road, why have drunk teenagers loitering making nuisance urinating in doorways of business to deal with in morning .Then as a contributing tax payer I will be paying to take them home, hospital or Police station. It will be another flop for Bolton a waste of investors money... Leave our ghost town at peace. Dr Doo Little
  • Score: -9

11:30am Fri 2 May 14

Reality50 says...

I have no sympathy with Crompton Place. They allowed Primark to destroy that centre to die by cutting off the walkway. 25 years ago,Crompton Place-or the Arndale as it was then-was bustling but there is nothing in there now. At least the Market Place is making attempts to improve and build footfall. Crompton Place needs bulldozing in my opinion.
I have no sympathy with Crompton Place. They allowed Primark to destroy that centre to die by cutting off the walkway. 25 years ago,Crompton Place-or the Arndale as it was then-was bustling but there is nothing in there now. At least the Market Place is making attempts to improve and build footfall. Crompton Place needs bulldozing in my opinion. Reality50
  • Score: 57

11:41am Fri 2 May 14

evochild says...

the market place is pants why don't they try something like what Glasgow have with their merchant square? or like the printworks just more restaurants/ cafe bars, if the market place want a cinema why don't they make use of the deprecating eyesore that is ikon/ritzy???? didn't that used to be cinema back in the day? it;s already pretty much attached to the market place anyway.
the market place is pants why don't they try something like what Glasgow have with their merchant square? or like the printworks just more restaurants/ cafe bars, if the market place want a cinema why don't they make use of the deprecating eyesore that is ikon/ritzy???? didn't that used to be cinema back in the day? it;s already pretty much attached to the market place anyway. evochild
  • Score: -29

11:41am Fri 2 May 14

Reality50 says...

As for the Farnworth mosque,it was clearly a tie up between the council,the BN and the Muslim applicants to keep quiet about it until planning day. Seems the EDL and other groups may now be planning demonstrations over this judging by Facebook. This will cost the police and taxpayers thousands,The council are a disgrace allowing this mosque without proper consultation of the public and the media should be ashamed for not giving advance warning of the planning meeting.
As for the Farnworth mosque,it was clearly a tie up between the council,the BN and the Muslim applicants to keep quiet about it until planning day. Seems the EDL and other groups may now be planning demonstrations over this judging by Facebook. This will cost the police and taxpayers thousands,The council are a disgrace allowing this mosque without proper consultation of the public and the media should be ashamed for not giving advance warning of the planning meeting. Reality50
  • Score: -40

11:46am Fri 2 May 14

Reality50 says...

Only problem with Middlebrook are the poor bus links. The 575 in my view needs to make a detour there. What Bolton needs is ONE super town centre indoor centre rather than two. Bolton needs a centre like the Mill Gate in Bury,one major indoor shopping centre. Both the Market Place and Crompton Place are too small. By having one large one in its place,the town centre would be better.
Only problem with Middlebrook are the poor bus links. The 575 in my view needs to make a detour there. What Bolton needs is ONE super town centre indoor centre rather than two. Bolton needs a centre like the Mill Gate in Bury,one major indoor shopping centre. Both the Market Place and Crompton Place are too small. By having one large one in its place,the town centre would be better. Reality50
  • Score: 42

11:50am Fri 2 May 14

evochild says...

as for the mosque, why not build another? we can add it to the ever growing number of asda stores and mcdonalds, COME TO BOLTON! - sample our 10 Walmart & 9 mcdonalds franchises and if you get bored go on a cultural tour of our 25 mosques.
as for the mosque, why not build another? we can add it to the ever growing number of asda stores and mcdonalds, COME TO BOLTON! - sample our 10 Walmart & 9 mcdonalds franchises and if you get bored go on a cultural tour of our 25 mosques. evochild
  • Score: -30

11:51am Fri 2 May 14

Jim271 says...

Actually I believe in science etc big bang and all that.

Your obsessed with Religion and yet you don't even live in Boltonistan.
Actually I believe in science etc big bang and all that. Your obsessed with Religion and yet you don't even live in Boltonistan. Jim271
  • Score: -39

12:37pm Fri 2 May 14

V Meldrew says...

I for one will not pay for parking to see a film, I will use Middlebrook instead
I for one will not pay for parking to see a film, I will use Middlebrook instead V Meldrew
  • Score: 3

12:39pm Fri 2 May 14

V Meldrew says...

Lets have a vote here ourselves
Will you use this new cinema (thumb up or thumb down)
Lets have a vote here ourselves Will you use this new cinema (thumb up or thumb down) V Meldrew
  • Score: 20

12:59pm Fri 2 May 14

Dr Doo Little says...

Reality50 wrote:
As for the Farnworth mosque,it was clearly a tie up between the council,the BN and the Muslim applicants to keep quiet about it until planning day. Seems the EDL and other groups may now be planning demonstrations over this judging by Facebook. This will cost the police and taxpayers thousands,The council are a disgrace allowing this mosque without proper consultation of the public and the media should be ashamed for not giving advance warning of the planning meeting.
YOU TRYING TO START SOMETHING? YOU BIGGOTT TROLL GO AN GET A LIFE... YOU WASTE, YOU HAVE A PROBLEM YOU COME OUT AND DEMONSTRATE YOU DIP STIK!
BEGGING FOR ANOTHER PINT OF FREE ALE.
[quote][p][bold]Reality50[/bold] wrote: As for the Farnworth mosque,it was clearly a tie up between the council,the BN and the Muslim applicants to keep quiet about it until planning day. Seems the EDL and other groups may now be planning demonstrations over this judging by Facebook. This will cost the police and taxpayers thousands,The council are a disgrace allowing this mosque without proper consultation of the public and the media should be ashamed for not giving advance warning of the planning meeting.[/p][/quote]YOU TRYING TO START SOMETHING? YOU BIGGOTT TROLL GO AN GET A LIFE... YOU WASTE, YOU HAVE A PROBLEM YOU COME OUT AND DEMONSTRATE YOU DIP STIK! BEGGING FOR ANOTHER PINT OF FREE ALE. Dr Doo Little
  • Score: -6

1:06pm Fri 2 May 14

DC Ferret says...

Bob Shaftoe wrote:
I see the BN resident tool's jumped out of his box. Where've you been. The mosque application is an absolute eyesore, nothing to do with religion. How would you like this built in Darcy Lever?
How do you know it looks like an eyesore? I've only seen a 2 D representation and it's difficult to gauge what it will finally look like. And people say your racist, you with your balanced viewpoint
[quote][p][bold]Bob Shaftoe[/bold] wrote: I see the BN resident tool's jumped out of his box. Where've you been. The mosque application is an absolute eyesore, nothing to do with religion. How would you like this built in Darcy Lever?[/p][/quote]How do you know it looks like an eyesore? I've only seen a 2 D representation and it's difficult to gauge what it will finally look like. And people say your racist, you with your balanced viewpoint DC Ferret
  • Score: 36

1:37pm Fri 2 May 14

ablake89 says...

MarkAllRead wrote:
People won't stand for being shown half an hour of adverts before the film starts when they're being charged per hour to park their car.
If the NCP multi-storeys remain free on evenings and weekend (as they have for the past year) I don't see parking being an issue.

Nice to see some healthy business competition from investors WANTING to be in Bolton town centre rather than in some pre-fab' out-of-town development that's miles away from civilisation.

Agree with breightmet kid about the lack of nicer eateries, since the Olive Press was sold by Paul Heathcote, the only half decent restaraunt in the town centre is Bella Italia. More restaruant's needed councillors
[quote][p][bold]MarkAllRead[/bold] wrote: People won't stand for being shown half an hour of adverts before the film starts when they're being charged per hour to park their car.[/p][/quote]If the NCP multi-storeys remain free on evenings and weekend (as they have for the past year) I don't see parking being an issue. Nice to see some healthy business competition from investors WANTING to be in Bolton town centre rather than in some pre-fab' out-of-town development that's miles away from civilisation. Agree with breightmet kid about the lack of nicer eateries, since the Olive Press was sold by Paul Heathcote, the only half decent restaraunt in the town centre is Bella Italia. More restaruant's needed councillors ablake89
  • Score: 40

1:38pm Fri 2 May 14

ablake89 says...

ablake89 wrote:
MarkAllRead wrote:
People won't stand for being shown half an hour of adverts before the film starts when they're being charged per hour to park their car.
If the NCP multi-storeys remain free on evenings and weekend (as they have for the past year) I don't see parking being an issue.

Nice to see some healthy business competition from investors WANTING to be in Bolton town centre rather than in some pre-fab' out-of-town development that's miles away from civilisation.

Agree with breightmet kid about the lack of nicer eateries, since the Olive Press was sold by Paul Heathcote, the only half decent restaraunt in the town centre is Bella Italia. More restaruant's needed councillors
*sic Ciao Napoli not Bella Italia
[quote][p][bold]ablake89[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MarkAllRead[/bold] wrote: People won't stand for being shown half an hour of adverts before the film starts when they're being charged per hour to park their car.[/p][/quote]If the NCP multi-storeys remain free on evenings and weekend (as they have for the past year) I don't see parking being an issue. Nice to see some healthy business competition from investors WANTING to be in Bolton town centre rather than in some pre-fab' out-of-town development that's miles away from civilisation. Agree with breightmet kid about the lack of nicer eateries, since the Olive Press was sold by Paul Heathcote, the only half decent restaraunt in the town centre is Bella Italia. More restaruant's needed councillors[/p][/quote]*sic Ciao Napoli not Bella Italia ablake89
  • Score: 0

2:13pm Fri 2 May 14

Reality50 says...

Dr Doo Little wrote:
Reality50 wrote:
As for the Farnworth mosque,it was clearly a tie up between the council,the BN and the Muslim applicants to keep quiet about it until planning day. Seems the EDL and other groups may now be planning demonstrations over this judging by Facebook. This will cost the police and taxpayers thousands,The council are a disgrace allowing this mosque without proper consultation of the public and the media should be ashamed for not giving advance warning of the planning meeting.
YOU TRYING TO START SOMETHING? YOU BIGGOTT TROLL GO AN GET A LIFE... YOU WASTE, YOU HAVE A PROBLEM YOU COME OUT AND DEMONSTRATE YOU DIP STIK!
BEGGING FOR ANOTHER PINT OF FREE ALE.
It is spelt "Bigot" not biggott so go educate yourself. Also it is not bigoted to not want a backward political/religious ideology in my town-Farnworth-. If you want Islam fine,but go to an islamic country. I don't want it on my doorstep thanks.
[quote][p][bold]Dr Doo Little[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Reality50[/bold] wrote: As for the Farnworth mosque,it was clearly a tie up between the council,the BN and the Muslim applicants to keep quiet about it until planning day. Seems the EDL and other groups may now be planning demonstrations over this judging by Facebook. This will cost the police and taxpayers thousands,The council are a disgrace allowing this mosque without proper consultation of the public and the media should be ashamed for not giving advance warning of the planning meeting.[/p][/quote]YOU TRYING TO START SOMETHING? YOU BIGGOTT TROLL GO AN GET A LIFE... YOU WASTE, YOU HAVE A PROBLEM YOU COME OUT AND DEMONSTRATE YOU DIP STIK! BEGGING FOR ANOTHER PINT OF FREE ALE.[/p][/quote]It is spelt "Bigot" not biggott so go educate yourself. Also it is not bigoted to not want a backward political/religious ideology in my town-Farnworth-. If you want Islam fine,but go to an islamic country. I don't want it on my doorstep thanks. Reality50
  • Score: 2

2:19pm Fri 2 May 14

Dr Doo Little says...

Dr Doo Little wrote:
Reality50 wrote:
As for the Farnworth mosque,it was clearly a tie up between the council,the BN and the Muslim applicants to keep quiet about it until planning day. Seems the EDL and other groups may now be planning demonstrations over this judging by Facebook. This will cost the police and taxpayers thousands,The council are a disgrace allowing this mosque without proper consultation of the public and the media should be ashamed for not giving advance warning of the planning meeting.
YOU TRYING TO START SOMETHING? YOU BIGGOTT TROLL GO AN GET A LIFE... YOU WASTE, YOU HAVE A PROBLEM YOU COME OUT AND DEMONSTRATE YOU DIP STIK!
BEGGING FOR ANOTHER PINT OF FREE ALE.
During the week up to 1800hrs all I see is white people walking up and down Daubhill or stood outside pubs!
After 2000hrs and all weekend I see Asians coming out for some socialising in their hard earned pride and joy.
[quote][p][bold]Dr Doo Little[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Reality50[/bold] wrote: As for the Farnworth mosque,it was clearly a tie up between the council,the BN and the Muslim applicants to keep quiet about it until planning day. Seems the EDL and other groups may now be planning demonstrations over this judging by Facebook. This will cost the police and taxpayers thousands,The council are a disgrace allowing this mosque without proper consultation of the public and the media should be ashamed for not giving advance warning of the planning meeting.[/p][/quote]YOU TRYING TO START SOMETHING? YOU BIGGOTT TROLL GO AN GET A LIFE... YOU WASTE, YOU HAVE A PROBLEM YOU COME OUT AND DEMONSTRATE YOU DIP STIK! BEGGING FOR ANOTHER PINT OF FREE ALE.[/p][/quote]During the week up to 1800hrs all I see is white people walking up and down Daubhill or stood outside pubs! After 2000hrs and all weekend I see Asians coming out for some socialising in their hard earned pride and joy. Dr Doo Little
  • Score: 4

2:22pm Fri 2 May 14

Dr Doo Little says...

Reality50 wrote:
Dr Doo Little wrote:
Reality50 wrote:
As for the Farnworth mosque,it was clearly a tie up between the council,the BN and the Muslim applicants to keep quiet about it until planning day. Seems the EDL and other groups may now be planning demonstrations over this judging by Facebook. This will cost the police and taxpayers thousands,The council are a disgrace allowing this mosque without proper consultation of the public and the media should be ashamed for not giving advance warning of the planning meeting.
YOU TRYING TO START SOMETHING? YOU BIGGOTT TROLL GO AN GET A LIFE... YOU WASTE, YOU HAVE A PROBLEM YOU COME OUT AND DEMONSTRATE YOU DIP STIK!
BEGGING FOR ANOTHER PINT OF FREE ALE.
It is spelt "Bigot" not biggott so go educate yourself. Also it is not bigoted to not want a backward political/religious ideology in my town-Farnworth-. If you want Islam fine,but go to an islamic country. I don't want it on my doorstep thanks.
Farnworth aint yours you BIGGGOTTT TROLLL!!!!

Islam will bring a Brighter and Better Britain.
[quote][p][bold]Reality50[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dr Doo Little[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Reality50[/bold] wrote: As for the Farnworth mosque,it was clearly a tie up between the council,the BN and the Muslim applicants to keep quiet about it until planning day. Seems the EDL and other groups may now be planning demonstrations over this judging by Facebook. This will cost the police and taxpayers thousands,The council are a disgrace allowing this mosque without proper consultation of the public and the media should be ashamed for not giving advance warning of the planning meeting.[/p][/quote]YOU TRYING TO START SOMETHING? YOU BIGGOTT TROLL GO AN GET A LIFE... YOU WASTE, YOU HAVE A PROBLEM YOU COME OUT AND DEMONSTRATE YOU DIP STIK! BEGGING FOR ANOTHER PINT OF FREE ALE.[/p][/quote]It is spelt "Bigot" not biggott so go educate yourself. Also it is not bigoted to not want a backward political/religious ideology in my town-Farnworth-. If you want Islam fine,but go to an islamic country. I don't want it on my doorstep thanks.[/p][/quote]Farnworth aint yours you BIGGGOTTT TROLLL!!!! Islam will bring a Brighter and Better Britain. Dr Doo Little
  • Score: -14

3:21pm Fri 2 May 14

Toybox says...

Reality50 wrote:
Dr Doo Little wrote:
Reality50 wrote:
As for the Farnworth mosque,it was clearly a tie up between the council,the BN and the Muslim applicants to keep quiet about it until planning day. Seems the EDL and other groups may now be planning demonstrations over this judging by Facebook. This will cost the police and taxpayers thousands,The council are a disgrace allowing this mosque without proper consultation of the public and the media should be ashamed for not giving advance warning of the planning meeting.
YOU TRYING TO START SOMETHING? YOU BIGGOTT TROLL GO AN GET A LIFE... YOU WASTE, YOU HAVE A PROBLEM YOU COME OUT AND DEMONSTRATE YOU DIP STIK!
BEGGING FOR ANOTHER PINT OF FREE ALE.
It is spelt "Bigot" not biggott so go educate yourself. Also it is not bigoted to not want a backward political/religious ideology in my town-Farnworth-. If you want Islam fine,but go to an islamic country. I don't want it on my doorstep thanks.
Reality50, stop bullcrapping, you don't live in Farnworth or you would know Granville Street Mosque has been there since at least the early 80's, so yeah, you are a **** stirring bigoted racist troll.
[quote][p][bold]Reality50[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dr Doo Little[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Reality50[/bold] wrote: As for the Farnworth mosque,it was clearly a tie up between the council,the BN and the Muslim applicants to keep quiet about it until planning day. Seems the EDL and other groups may now be planning demonstrations over this judging by Facebook. This will cost the police and taxpayers thousands,The council are a disgrace allowing this mosque without proper consultation of the public and the media should be ashamed for not giving advance warning of the planning meeting.[/p][/quote]YOU TRYING TO START SOMETHING? YOU BIGGOTT TROLL GO AN GET A LIFE... YOU WASTE, YOU HAVE A PROBLEM YOU COME OUT AND DEMONSTRATE YOU DIP STIK! BEGGING FOR ANOTHER PINT OF FREE ALE.[/p][/quote]It is spelt "Bigot" not biggott so go educate yourself. Also it is not bigoted to not want a backward political/religious ideology in my town-Farnworth-. If you want Islam fine,but go to an islamic country. I don't want it on my doorstep thanks.[/p][/quote]Reality50, stop bullcrapping, you don't live in Farnworth or you would know Granville Street Mosque has been there since at least the early 80's, so yeah, you are a **** stirring bigoted racist troll. Toybox
  • Score: 2

4:00pm Fri 2 May 14

Bob Shaftoe says...

DC Ferret wrote:
Bob Shaftoe wrote:
I see the BN resident tool's jumped out of his box. Where've you been. The mosque application is an absolute eyesore, nothing to do with religion. How would you like this built in Darcy Lever?
How do you know it looks like an eyesore? I've only seen a 2 D representation and it's difficult to gauge what it will finally look like. And people say your racist, you with your balanced viewpoint
You need to go to Specsavers pal. It's just across the road from the town hall.
You may be able to see it from your office.
[quote][p][bold]DC Ferret[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bob Shaftoe[/bold] wrote: I see the BN resident tool's jumped out of his box. Where've you been. The mosque application is an absolute eyesore, nothing to do with religion. How would you like this built in Darcy Lever?[/p][/quote]How do you know it looks like an eyesore? I've only seen a 2 D representation and it's difficult to gauge what it will finally look like. And people say your racist, you with your balanced viewpoint[/p][/quote]You need to go to Specsavers pal. It's just across the road from the town hall. You may be able to see it from your office. Bob Shaftoe
  • Score: -34

4:20pm Fri 2 May 14

Beyond News Forum says...

As one Vulcan once said... "fascinating!"
As one Vulcan once said... "fascinating!" Beyond News Forum
  • Score: -4

4:25pm Fri 2 May 14

Reality50 says...

Toybox wrote:
Reality50 wrote:
Dr Doo Little wrote:
Reality50 wrote:
As for the Farnworth mosque,it was clearly a tie up between the council,the BN and the Muslim applicants to keep quiet about it until planning day. Seems the EDL and other groups may now be planning demonstrations over this judging by Facebook. This will cost the police and taxpayers thousands,The council are a disgrace allowing this mosque without proper consultation of the public and the media should be ashamed for not giving advance warning of the planning meeting.
YOU TRYING TO START SOMETHING? YOU BIGGOTT TROLL GO AN GET A LIFE... YOU WASTE, YOU HAVE A PROBLEM YOU COME OUT AND DEMONSTRATE YOU DIP STIK!
BEGGING FOR ANOTHER PINT OF FREE ALE.
It is spelt "Bigot" not biggott so go educate yourself. Also it is not bigoted to not want a backward political/religious ideology in my town-Farnworth-. If you want Islam fine,but go to an islamic country. I don't want it on my doorstep thanks.
Reality50, stop bullcrapping, you don't live in Farnworth or you would know Granville Street Mosque has been there since at least the early 80's, so yeah, you are a **** stirring bigoted racist troll.
Lived in Farnworth 14 years you assumptious left wing Anglophobe!.
[quote][p][bold]Toybox[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Reality50[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dr Doo Little[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Reality50[/bold] wrote: As for the Farnworth mosque,it was clearly a tie up between the council,the BN and the Muslim applicants to keep quiet about it until planning day. Seems the EDL and other groups may now be planning demonstrations over this judging by Facebook. This will cost the police and taxpayers thousands,The council are a disgrace allowing this mosque without proper consultation of the public and the media should be ashamed for not giving advance warning of the planning meeting.[/p][/quote]YOU TRYING TO START SOMETHING? YOU BIGGOTT TROLL GO AN GET A LIFE... YOU WASTE, YOU HAVE A PROBLEM YOU COME OUT AND DEMONSTRATE YOU DIP STIK! BEGGING FOR ANOTHER PINT OF FREE ALE.[/p][/quote]It is spelt "Bigot" not biggott so go educate yourself. Also it is not bigoted to not want a backward political/religious ideology in my town-Farnworth-. If you want Islam fine,but go to an islamic country. I don't want it on my doorstep thanks.[/p][/quote]Reality50, stop bullcrapping, you don't live in Farnworth or you would know Granville Street Mosque has been there since at least the early 80's, so yeah, you are a **** stirring bigoted racist troll.[/p][/quote]Lived in Farnworth 14 years you assumptious left wing Anglophobe!. Reality50
  • Score: -27

4:29pm Fri 2 May 14

Reality50 says...

Dr Doo Little wrote:
Reality50 wrote:
Dr Doo Little wrote:
Reality50 wrote:
As for the Farnworth mosque,it was clearly a tie up between the council,the BN and the Muslim applicants to keep quiet about it until planning day. Seems the EDL and other groups may now be planning demonstrations over this judging by Facebook. This will cost the police and taxpayers thousands,The council are a disgrace allowing this mosque without proper consultation of the public and the media should be ashamed for not giving advance warning of the planning meeting.
YOU TRYING TO START SOMETHING? YOU BIGGOTT TROLL GO AN GET A LIFE... YOU WASTE, YOU HAVE A PROBLEM YOU COME OUT AND DEMONSTRATE YOU DIP STIK!
BEGGING FOR ANOTHER PINT OF FREE ALE.
It is spelt "Bigot" not biggott so go educate yourself. Also it is not bigoted to not want a backward political/religious ideology in my town-Farnworth-. If you want Islam fine,but go to an islamic country. I don't want it on my doorstep thanks.
Farnworth aint yours you BIGGGOTTT TROLLL!!!!

Islam will bring a Brighter and Better Britain.
Islam n my view has no place in my town. That is a reasonable attitude when you understand what islam stands for and its treatment of gays,women,children et al. If Islam wants to prosper,fine but not on my territory or country. Go to Asia or Africa if that's your thing.
[quote][p][bold]Dr Doo Little[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Reality50[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dr Doo Little[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Reality50[/bold] wrote: As for the Farnworth mosque,it was clearly a tie up between the council,the BN and the Muslim applicants to keep quiet about it until planning day. Seems the EDL and other groups may now be planning demonstrations over this judging by Facebook. This will cost the police and taxpayers thousands,The council are a disgrace allowing this mosque without proper consultation of the public and the media should be ashamed for not giving advance warning of the planning meeting.[/p][/quote]YOU TRYING TO START SOMETHING? YOU BIGGOTT TROLL GO AN GET A LIFE... YOU WASTE, YOU HAVE A PROBLEM YOU COME OUT AND DEMONSTRATE YOU DIP STIK! BEGGING FOR ANOTHER PINT OF FREE ALE.[/p][/quote]It is spelt "Bigot" not biggott so go educate yourself. Also it is not bigoted to not want a backward political/religious ideology in my town-Farnworth-. If you want Islam fine,but go to an islamic country. I don't want it on my doorstep thanks.[/p][/quote]Farnworth aint yours you BIGGGOTTT TROLLL!!!! Islam will bring a Brighter and Better Britain.[/p][/quote]Islam n my view has no place in my town. That is a reasonable attitude when you understand what islam stands for and its treatment of gays,women,children et al. If Islam wants to prosper,fine but not on my territory or country. Go to Asia or Africa if that's your thing. Reality50
  • Score: -29

4:45pm Fri 2 May 14

Tim Burr says...

It's prospering just fine in Bolton, whether you're gay, female or a child.

However if Reality50 is feeling left out, he could always call into his local Farnworth mosque for a chat or if he has a passport, travel to Paris where a gay Mosque has recently opened and discuss his fears there.
It's prospering just fine in Bolton, whether you're gay, female or a child. However if Reality50 is feeling left out, he could always call into his local Farnworth mosque for a chat or if he has a passport, travel to Paris where a gay Mosque has recently opened and discuss his fears there. Tim Burr
  • Score: 35

6:07pm Fri 2 May 14

Beyond News Forum says...

Tim Burr wrote:
It's prospering just fine in Bolton, whether you're gay, female or a child.

However if Reality50 is feeling left out, he could always call into his local Farnworth mosque for a chat or if he has a passport, travel to Paris where a gay Mosque has recently opened and discuss his fears there.
We are not in France though. The French can do what they want there and considering they welcome people onto containers to get here the French can also go swing.
[quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: It's prospering just fine in Bolton, whether you're gay, female or a child. However if Reality50 is feeling left out, he could always call into his local Farnworth mosque for a chat or if he has a passport, travel to Paris where a gay Mosque has recently opened and discuss his fears there.[/p][/quote]We are not in France though. The French can do what they want there and considering they welcome people onto containers to get here the French can also go swing. Beyond News Forum
  • Score: -33

6:19pm Fri 2 May 14

united99 says...

Jimmy 2 shoes 71 that is a fantastic idea to have a Bollywood cinema after all you wouldn't want to upset your minority neighbours as you normally put it would you - and you know what it will be full just like all the mosques in Bolton.....if you went to church then perhaps there would not be need to close churches or turn them into student pads or apartments !
Bob you have been shafted good and proper that mosque has been their along time and is currently too small hence the need for a bigger one !
Message to all the anti mosque wingers why don't you start going to the church for congregation and show your true identity instead of living for the weekend and getting hammered - we Muslims are not stopping you gone are the days of church bells ringing like it use to when I was a child in the 70's and 80's shame.
Jimmy 2 shoes 71 that is a fantastic idea to have a Bollywood cinema after all you wouldn't want to upset your minority neighbours as you normally put it would you - and you know what it will be full just like all the mosques in Bolton.....if you went to church then perhaps there would not be need to close churches or turn them into student pads or apartments ! Bob you have been shafted good and proper that mosque has been their along time and is currently too small hence the need for a bigger one ! Message to all the anti mosque wingers why don't you start going to the church for congregation and show your true identity instead of living for the weekend and getting hammered - we Muslims are not stopping you gone are the days of church bells ringing like it use to when I was a child in the 70's and 80's shame. united99
  • Score: -223

6:34pm Fri 2 May 14

JustBecause says...

I would opt for Santander option, looks like Moorgarth Group Ltd have less money than me !
I would opt for Santander option, looks like Moorgarth Group Ltd have less money than me ! JustBecause
  • Score: -37

8:03pm Fri 2 May 14

waka flocks flame says...

V Meldrew wrote:
I for one will not pay for parking to see a film, I will use Middlebrook instead
There is free parking in town on evenings and weekends
[quote][p][bold]V Meldrew[/bold] wrote: I for one will not pay for parking to see a film, I will use Middlebrook instead[/p][/quote]There is free parking in town on evenings and weekends waka flocks flame
  • Score: 7

8:12pm Fri 2 May 14

boltonnut says...

Bob Shaftoe wrote:
Not bothered about this either way. What does concern me is the monstrosity of a building, namely the mosque, that was kept from public knowledge almost up to the planning meeting where it was waved through without much debate because no one in Farnworth, except muslims of course, knew anything about it. Absolutely staggering, totally undemocratic and if anything requires investigation this is it. So come on BN, get off your backsides and do some proper investigative reporting, even though it is the view of many in this town that you are in the pockets of the Labour Party.
If you think YOUR religion will bring a Brighter and Better Britain????? If stoning women, sexually abusing children,throwing sh!t in the back streets,Tax evasion, smuggling,rape,murde
r etc is the right way to live then I suggest you go back to where you came from,you must be feeling very home sick.Every country has its' problems,they don't need to inherit more from outsiders.
[quote][p][bold]Bob Shaftoe[/bold] wrote: Not bothered about this either way. What does concern me is the monstrosity of a building, namely the mosque, that was kept from public knowledge almost up to the planning meeting where it was waved through without much debate because no one in Farnworth, except muslims of course, knew anything about it. Absolutely staggering, totally undemocratic and if anything requires investigation this is it. So come on BN, get off your backsides and do some proper investigative reporting, even though it is the view of many in this town that you are in the pockets of the Labour Party.[/p][/quote]If you think YOUR religion will bring a Brighter and Better Britain????? If stoning women, sexually abusing children,throwing sh!t in the back streets,Tax evasion, smuggling,rape,murde r etc is the right way to live then I suggest you go back to where you came from,you must be feeling very home sick.Every country has its' problems,they don't need to inherit more from outsiders. boltonnut
  • Score: -11

10:46pm Fri 2 May 14

The Righteous One says...

Bob Shaftoe wrote:
I see the BN resident tool's jumped out of his box. Where've you been.
The mosque application is an absolute eyesore, nothing to do with religion.
How would you like this built in Darcy Lever?
You call me a tool and yet you cant even find the planning application on the Councils website so you moan and that is all you do is moan! Therefore it takes a tool to know tool!

If you actually believe that your argument is not about religion but about the buildings then what do you think of the modern buildings in Churchgate, or Crompton Place itself, or what about the Crown Courts on Blackhorse Street and other monstrosities and the borough which you have never bothered to mention about previously!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Bob Shaftoe[/bold] wrote: I see the BN resident tool's jumped out of his box. Where've you been. The mosque application is an absolute eyesore, nothing to do with religion. How would you like this built in Darcy Lever?[/p][/quote]You call me a tool and yet you cant even find the planning application on the Councils website so you moan and that is all you do is moan! Therefore it takes a tool to know tool! If you actually believe that your argument is not about religion but about the buildings then what do you think of the modern buildings in Churchgate, or Crompton Place itself, or what about the Crown Courts on Blackhorse Street and other monstrosities and the borough which you have never bothered to mention about previously!!!! The Righteous One
  • Score: -50

10:49pm Fri 2 May 14

The Righteous One says...

waka flocks flame wrote:
V Meldrew wrote:
I for one will not pay for parking to see a film, I will use Middlebrook instead
There is free parking in town on evenings and weekends
There is also free parking for first 90 minutes at Market Place car park!!!
[quote][p][bold]waka flocks flame[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]V Meldrew[/bold] wrote: I for one will not pay for parking to see a film, I will use Middlebrook instead[/p][/quote]There is free parking in town on evenings and weekends[/p][/quote]There is also free parking for first 90 minutes at Market Place car park!!! The Righteous One
  • Score: 3

7:54am Sat 3 May 14

ferdys says...

Reality50 wrote:
I have no sympathy with Crompton Place. They allowed Primark to destroy that centre to die by cutting off the walkway. 25 years ago,Crompton Place-or the Arndale as it was then-was bustling but there is nothing in there now. At least the Market Place is making attempts to improve and build footfall. Crompton Place needs bulldozing in my opinion.
Yes, exactly my view. It also meant no-one bothered to visit the shops (remember them?) on Bradshawgate.
I don't agree that the Market Place will ever be a ‘regional’ destination, but it has more going for it than Crompton Place.
[quote][p][bold]Reality50[/bold] wrote: I have no sympathy with Crompton Place. They allowed Primark to destroy that centre to die by cutting off the walkway. 25 years ago,Crompton Place-or the Arndale as it was then-was bustling but there is nothing in there now. At least the Market Place is making attempts to improve and build footfall. Crompton Place needs bulldozing in my opinion.[/p][/quote]Yes, exactly my view. It also meant no-one bothered to visit the shops (remember them?) on Bradshawgate. I don't agree that the Market Place will ever be a ‘regional’ destination, but it has more going for it than Crompton Place. ferdys
  • Score: 2

4:04pm Sat 3 May 14

allan111111 says...

waka flocks flame wrote:
V Meldrew wrote:
I for one will not pay for parking to see a film, I will use Middlebrook instead
There is free parking in town on evenings and weekends
Free until the council realise they can make a few quid...bolton is a ghost town in the evening so people arent really getting anything free
[quote][p][bold]waka flocks flame[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]V Meldrew[/bold] wrote: I for one will not pay for parking to see a film, I will use Middlebrook instead[/p][/quote]There is free parking in town on evenings and weekends[/p][/quote]Free until the council realise they can make a few quid...bolton is a ghost town in the evening so people arent really getting anything free allan111111
  • Score: -1

4:11pm Sat 3 May 14

allan111111 says...

waka flocks flame wrote:
V Meldrew wrote:
I for one will not pay for parking to see a film, I will use Middlebrook instead
There is free parking in town on evenings and weekends
Free until the council realise they can make a few quid...bolton is a ghost town in the evening so people arent really getting anything free
[quote][p][bold]waka flocks flame[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]V Meldrew[/bold] wrote: I for one will not pay for parking to see a film, I will use Middlebrook instead[/p][/quote]There is free parking in town on evenings and weekends[/p][/quote]Free until the council realise they can make a few quid...bolton is a ghost town in the evening so people arent really getting anything free allan111111
  • Score: 1

8:42pm Sat 3 May 14

holloway_david says...

What has a mosque got to do with films unless its an adaptation of Laurence of Arabia
What has a mosque got to do with films unless its an adaptation of Laurence of Arabia holloway_david
  • Score: 2

8:27am Sun 4 May 14

oftbewildered2 says...

Tim Burr wrote:
Bob Shaftoe wrote:
Not bothered about this either way. What does concern me is the monstrosity of a building, namely the mosque, that was kept from public knowledge almost up to the planning meeting where it was waved through without much debate because no one in Farnworth, except muslims of course, knew anything about it. Absolutely staggering, totally undemocratic and if anything requires investigation this is it. So come on BN, get off your backsides and do some proper investigative reporting, even though it is the view of many in this town that you are in the pockets of the Labour Party.
It wasn't kept from public knowledge - the public notice was published in this Newspaper in January this year.
so you have to buy the local newspaper to be advised of planning applications? Notices should have been posted to residents in the locality.
[quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bob Shaftoe[/bold] wrote: Not bothered about this either way. What does concern me is the monstrosity of a building, namely the mosque, that was kept from public knowledge almost up to the planning meeting where it was waved through without much debate because no one in Farnworth, except muslims of course, knew anything about it. Absolutely staggering, totally undemocratic and if anything requires investigation this is it. So come on BN, get off your backsides and do some proper investigative reporting, even though it is the view of many in this town that you are in the pockets of the Labour Party.[/p][/quote]It wasn't kept from public knowledge - the public notice was published in this Newspaper in January this year.[/p][/quote]so you have to buy the local newspaper to be advised of planning applications? Notices should have been posted to residents in the locality. oftbewildered2
  • Score: 0

4:16pm Sun 4 May 14

The Righteous One says...

oftbewildered2 wrote:
Tim Burr wrote:
Bob Shaftoe wrote:
Not bothered about this either way. What does concern me is the monstrosity of a building, namely the mosque, that was kept from public knowledge almost up to the planning meeting where it was waved through without much debate because no one in Farnworth, except muslims of course, knew anything about it. Absolutely staggering, totally undemocratic and if anything requires investigation this is it. So come on BN, get off your backsides and do some proper investigative reporting, even though it is the view of many in this town that you are in the pockets of the Labour Party.
It wasn't kept from public knowledge - the public notice was published in this Newspaper in January this year.
so you have to buy the local newspaper to be advised of planning applications? Notices should have been posted to residents in the locality.
Why should they?

The only requirement is open access to the plans whether be it in Council own publications or a local paper. In this case, of the Mosque, it was featured in the paper on January 30th, 2014. But more details of EVERY planning application can be viewed on the Bolton Councils own website - which everyone has access. But if you read the paper closely enough there is usually a section of plans submitted for approval!!!

If the Council was to pamphlet every single household with all plans, an you imagine how much that would cost and then the Council would be accused of wasting money!!!! If anything using the Councils own website is the cheapest way and everyone has access to the website - if they do not have access they are freely available to go down to the town hall to view the plans!!!
[quote][p][bold]oftbewildered2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bob Shaftoe[/bold] wrote: Not bothered about this either way. What does concern me is the monstrosity of a building, namely the mosque, that was kept from public knowledge almost up to the planning meeting where it was waved through without much debate because no one in Farnworth, except muslims of course, knew anything about it. Absolutely staggering, totally undemocratic and if anything requires investigation this is it. So come on BN, get off your backsides and do some proper investigative reporting, even though it is the view of many in this town that you are in the pockets of the Labour Party.[/p][/quote]It wasn't kept from public knowledge - the public notice was published in this Newspaper in January this year.[/p][/quote]so you have to buy the local newspaper to be advised of planning applications? Notices should have been posted to residents in the locality.[/p][/quote]Why should they? The only requirement is open access to the plans whether be it in Council own publications or a local paper. In this case, of the Mosque, it was featured in the paper on January 30th, 2014. But more details of EVERY planning application can be viewed on the Bolton Councils own website - which everyone has access. But if you read the paper closely enough there is usually a section of plans submitted for approval!!! If the Council was to pamphlet every single household with all plans, an you imagine how much that would cost and then the Council would be accused of wasting money!!!! If anything using the Councils own website is the cheapest way and everyone has access to the website - if they do not have access they are freely available to go down to the town hall to view the plans!!! The Righteous One
  • Score: -28

9:04am Mon 5 May 14

Donkey Stone says...

ablake89 wrote:
MarkAllRead wrote:
People won't stand for being shown half an hour of adverts before the film starts when they're being charged per hour to park their car.
If the NCP multi-storeys remain free on evenings and weekend (as they have for the past year) I don't see parking being an issue.

Nice to see some healthy business competition from investors WANTING to be in Bolton town centre rather than in some pre-fab' out-of-town development that's miles away from civilisation.

Agree with breightmet kid about the lack of nicer eateries, since the Olive Press was sold by Paul Heathcote, the only half decent restaraunt in the town centre is Bella Italia. More restaruant's needed councillors
Councillors don't open restaraunts companies do. The demand would have to be there first.
[quote][p][bold]ablake89[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MarkAllRead[/bold] wrote: People won't stand for being shown half an hour of adverts before the film starts when they're being charged per hour to park their car.[/p][/quote]If the NCP multi-storeys remain free on evenings and weekend (as they have for the past year) I don't see parking being an issue. Nice to see some healthy business competition from investors WANTING to be in Bolton town centre rather than in some pre-fab' out-of-town development that's miles away from civilisation. Agree with breightmet kid about the lack of nicer eateries, since the Olive Press was sold by Paul Heathcote, the only half decent restaraunt in the town centre is Bella Italia. More restaruant's needed councillors[/p][/quote]Councillors don't open restaraunts companies do. The demand would have to be there first. Donkey Stone
  • Score: 3

6:28pm Thu 8 May 14

Ernagy2 says...

There is a need for new eateries, but, we also need an exhibition centre and a bigger and better museum. I'd like to see a 'civil war' museum here in Bolton, a bigger cotton museum and a bigger art gallery. Bolton has to increase it's appeal to visitors from outside the Town, not just those who live within it.
There is a need for new eateries, but, we also need an exhibition centre and a bigger and better museum. I'd like to see a 'civil war' museum here in Bolton, a bigger cotton museum and a bigger art gallery. Bolton has to increase it's appeal to visitors from outside the Town, not just those who live within it. Ernagy2
  • Score: 1

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