Fluoride will not be added to Bolton's water supply

The Bolton News: Fluoride will not be added to Bolton's water supply Fluoride will not be added to Bolton's water supply

HEALTH bosses have ruled out adding fluoride to Bolton’s water supply — despite advice from Public Health England that it could improve people’s dental health.

The pledge comes as latest figures reveal 43.4 per cent of under-fives — more than 2,800 youngsters — in Bolton already have tooth decay.

Public Health England has urged councils to consider adding fluoride to water as a “safe and effective” public health measure. It has carried out research into what impact it has had in areas with fluoridated water.

But Cllr Linda Thomas, deputy leader of Bolton Council, said the council had no plans to hold a referendum into the issue, which would require the other Greater Manchester authorities to join together with a common policy.

The results from Public Health England found that areas such as Birmingham, where the water supply has the chemical artificially added in, five-year-olds are 15 per cent less likely to have had tooth decay, and the number is greater in deprived communities.

Cllr Thomas said: “The benefits of water fluoridation to oral health are well reported.

“In Bolton, we share our water supply with other local authorities and any decision to look into this matter further would be made in partnership with the other councils concerned.

“This is not something we are actively considering at the present time.

“We will continue to secure programmes such as ‘brushing for life’ and oral health promotion support to schools, and we are currently reviewing all our oral health promotion work.”

The issue of water fluoridation has been strongly contested in Bolton for many years, with an initial referendum on the issue taking place back in 1968.

David Crausby, the MP for Bolton North East, Cwho is a campaigner against mass fluoridation, welcomed the news.

He said: “I understand the arguments about children’s teeth, but each individual should decide what they take in their water. It’s fundamental.

“If you agree to the principle that the government can add to water, they might put all sorts of things in the water.

“Our water should be pure and to put fluoride in water is mass medication, which is illegal.”

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9:24am Tue 6 May 14

eatmytruth says...

Why contaminate some of the best water in the country? At least they got something right. Tooth decay has nothing to do with lack of chemicals in the water. It's to do with bad parenting. If parents brush their childrens teeth from young and then teach them how to do it themselves, it wouldn't be an issue. Well done councillors. Now about them pot holes... my car is starting to- just kidding.
Why contaminate some of the best water in the country? At least they got something right. Tooth decay has nothing to do with lack of chemicals in the water. It's to do with bad parenting. If parents brush their childrens teeth from young and then teach them how to do it themselves, it wouldn't be an issue. Well done councillors. Now about them pot holes... my car is starting to- just kidding. eatmytruth
  • Score: 24

10:24am Tue 6 May 14

What I think 222 says...

I read this with relief, totally against fluoride in the water. I have two children aged 15 and 14 and neither has any fillings. I taught them the importance of regular and thorough tooth brushing from early on, and have limited fizzy drinks and sweets as much as I can, although as they have got older, this hasn't been as easy.
I read this with relief, totally against fluoride in the water. I have two children aged 15 and 14 and neither has any fillings. I taught them the importance of regular and thorough tooth brushing from early on, and have limited fizzy drinks and sweets as much as I can, although as they have got older, this hasn't been as easy. What I think 222
  • Score: 20

10:24am Tue 6 May 14

127001 says...

Good news. Fluoride is classed as a poison and is unfit for human consumption. The key to reducing tooth decay? Brush, floss regularly and avoid food/drinks laced in sugar.
Good news. Fluoride is classed as a poison and is unfit for human consumption. The key to reducing tooth decay? Brush, floss regularly and avoid food/drinks laced in sugar. 127001
  • Score: 23

10:40am Tue 6 May 14

breightmet kid says...

At long last we have an MP and councillors listening to the Bolton public.

Many years ago the Bolton electorate voted NO to having flouride added to drinking water. The medical people gave the same reasons last time, nothing has changed and they have had the same reply.

Bad teeth is caused by many factors, not least by sweet fizzy drinks and toffees. Look at any child going to or from school and you will see sweets, toffees, crisps, fizzy drinks being bought by parents and given to their children.

Educate the parents properly about sugar and cleaning teeth twice a day properly.

By the way flouride, once consumed stays in the body for life.
At long last we have an MP and councillors listening to the Bolton public. Many years ago the Bolton electorate voted NO to having flouride added to drinking water. The medical people gave the same reasons last time, nothing has changed and they have had the same reply. Bad teeth is caused by many factors, not least by sweet fizzy drinks and toffees. Look at any child going to or from school and you will see sweets, toffees, crisps, fizzy drinks being bought by parents and given to their children. Educate the parents properly about sugar and cleaning teeth twice a day properly. By the way flouride, once consumed stays in the body for life. breightmet kid
  • Score: 17

11:47am Tue 6 May 14

Beyond News Forum says...

Fluoride, a derivative of corporations that they did not know what to do with it. A popcorn moment emerged when some bonzo saw a profit in adding one of the most dangerous poisons known to man into water.

Fluoride in water has nothing to do with health. Studies have been lobbied constantly by corporations where 40-odd years down the line people, even clinicians cannot find an exact reason why Fluoride should be added to water.

This is great news for Bolton. Still I would like to know why water often smells like bleach.
Fluoride, a derivative of corporations that they did not know what to do with it. A popcorn moment emerged when some bonzo saw a profit in adding one of the most dangerous poisons known to man into water. Fluoride in water has nothing to do with health. Studies have been lobbied constantly by corporations where 40-odd years down the line people, even clinicians cannot find an exact reason why Fluoride should be added to water. This is great news for Bolton. Still I would like to know why water often smells like bleach. Beyond News Forum
  • Score: 20

12:36pm Tue 6 May 14

nyscof says...

Excellent decision. No human is, or ever was, fluoride deficient. Rotten diets make rotten teeth and no amount of fluoride will change that.
Excellent decision. No human is, or ever was, fluoride deficient. Rotten diets make rotten teeth and no amount of fluoride will change that. nyscof
  • Score: 16

1:19pm Tue 6 May 14

davep83 says...

Just did a little research on fluoride.
I wonder why they are so keen in having this stuff in our water, and I can clearly see why now.

http://en.wikipedia.
org/wiki/Fluoride#Bi
ochemical_reagent
http://en.wikipedia.
org/wiki/Phosphatase
s

According to the first article "Fluoride salts are commonly used in biological assay processing to inhibit the activity of phosphatases"

According to the second article, "In the adult brain, PPs are essential for synaptic functions and are involved in the negative regulation of higher-order brain functions such as learning and memory"
Just did a little research on fluoride. I wonder why they are so keen in having this stuff in our water, and I can clearly see why now. http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Fluoride#Bi ochemical_reagent http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Phosphatase s According to the first article "Fluoride salts are commonly used in biological assay processing to inhibit the activity of phosphatases" According to the second article, "In the adult brain, PPs are essential for synaptic functions and are involved in the negative regulation of higher-order brain functions such as learning and memory" davep83
  • Score: 3

1:34pm Tue 6 May 14

Beyond News Forum says...

davep83 wrote:
Just did a little research on fluoride.
I wonder why they are so keen in having this stuff in our water, and I can clearly see why now.

http://en.wikipedia.

org/wiki/Fluoride#Bi

ochemical_reagent
http://en.wikipedia.

org/wiki/Phosphatase

s

According to the first article "Fluoride salts are commonly used in biological assay processing to inhibit the activity of phosphatases"

According to the second article, "In the adult brain, PPs are essential for synaptic functions and are involved in the negative regulation of higher-order brain functions such as learning and memory"
There is a theory that Fluoride creates submissive behaviour in both animals and humans.
[quote][p][bold]davep83[/bold] wrote: Just did a little research on fluoride. I wonder why they are so keen in having this stuff in our water, and I can clearly see why now. http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Fluoride#Bi ochemical_reagent http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Phosphatase s According to the first article "Fluoride salts are commonly used in biological assay processing to inhibit the activity of phosphatases" According to the second article, "In the adult brain, PPs are essential for synaptic functions and are involved in the negative regulation of higher-order brain functions such as learning and memory"[/p][/quote]There is a theory that Fluoride creates submissive behaviour in both animals and humans. Beyond News Forum
  • Score: 4

2:29pm Tue 6 May 14

DandyDan says...

I am so happy to hear this news, thanks to the Bolton council deputy Linda and a thank you to David Crasby for fighting against this horrific idea.
I also want to know what idiots are voting yes to fluoride on this page! read up about it before you share your views, as believe me you will feel very differently when you know the full story
I am so happy to hear this news, thanks to the Bolton council deputy Linda and a thank you to David Crasby for fighting against this horrific idea. I also want to know what idiots are voting yes to fluoride on this page! read up about it before you share your views, as believe me you will feel very differently when you know the full story DandyDan
  • Score: 8

2:33pm Tue 6 May 14

DandyDan says...

Water the great culling
http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=P7BqFtyCR
Jc
please watch this YouTube film if you are interested in knowing more about fluoride
Water the great culling http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=P7BqFtyCR Jc please watch this YouTube film if you are interested in knowing more about fluoride DandyDan
  • Score: 0

2:42pm Tue 6 May 14

SiftaSam says...

Once more, the journalist uses the word 'Fluoride' which is just a bit silly, or perhaps designed to deceive, when used on its own. Ground water in some areas has naturally occurring calcium fluoride dissolved in it. Calcium fluoride, we are told, is nowhere near as toxic as the sodium fluoride which the Government insists to be in some way 'safe' to add to drinking water. Sodium fluoride does not occur naturally and is, in fact, toxic waste which has no medicinal properties, though it is used as a rat poison. According to United Utilities web site, the chemical which UU is ordered to add to water is hexafluorosilicic acid, a waste product which is difficult and expensive to dispose of in an environmentally safe manner. Being a waste product and not a purified 'medicine' of any type, this acid contains traces of other toxins such as arsenic and lead. It is an extremely reactive acid which is used for etching glass, so it can't be carried in a glass bottle. We are told that hexafuorosilicic acid will break down to sodium fluoride in water.
Now, here is the question. If this chemical is so expensive to dispose of properly that they want to get rid of it by putting it into our drinking water, why is it that we have to pay to have it put into our drinking water? Why aren't they paying us?
Once more, the journalist uses the word 'Fluoride' which is just a bit silly, or perhaps designed to deceive, when used on its own. Ground water in some areas has naturally occurring calcium fluoride dissolved in it. Calcium fluoride, we are told, is nowhere near as toxic as the sodium fluoride which the Government insists to be in some way 'safe' to add to drinking water. Sodium fluoride does not occur naturally and is, in fact, toxic waste which has no medicinal properties, though it is used as a rat poison. According to United Utilities web site, the chemical which UU is ordered to add to water is hexafluorosilicic acid, a waste product which is difficult and expensive to dispose of in an environmentally safe manner. Being a waste product and not a purified 'medicine' of any type, this acid contains traces of other toxins such as arsenic and lead. It is an extremely reactive acid which is used for etching glass, so it can't be carried in a glass bottle. We are told that hexafuorosilicic acid will break down to sodium fluoride in water. Now, here is the question. If this chemical is so expensive to dispose of properly that they want to get rid of it by putting it into our drinking water, why is it that we have to pay to have it put into our drinking water? Why aren't they paying us? SiftaSam
  • Score: 12

5:26pm Tue 6 May 14

Lynn57 says...

So we are destined to another generation of the most frightful teeth if the people going around the town centre are anything to go by. Young people with missing and decayed teeth always amaze my relatives from southern Ireland who havehad fluoride added fifty years or so ago.
So we are destined to another generation of the most frightful teeth if the people going around the town centre are anything to go by. Young people with missing and decayed teeth always amaze my relatives from southern Ireland who havehad fluoride added fifty years or so ago. Lynn57
  • Score: -10

5:47pm Tue 6 May 14

Beyond News Forum says...

Lynn57 wrote:
So we are destined to another generation of the most frightful teeth if the people going around the town centre are anything to go by. Young people with missing and decayed teeth always amaze my relatives from southern Ireland who havehad fluoride added fifty years or so ago.
Oh my word... have you not read a thing?

Words cannot describe the silliness in your comment.

Get a flaming toothbrush and some decent toothpaste, preferably Fluoride free. *facepalm*
[quote][p][bold]Lynn57[/bold] wrote: So we are destined to another generation of the most frightful teeth if the people going around the town centre are anything to go by. Young people with missing and decayed teeth always amaze my relatives from southern Ireland who havehad fluoride added fifty years or so ago.[/p][/quote]Oh my word... have you not read a thing? Words cannot describe the silliness in your comment. Get a flaming toothbrush and some decent toothpaste, preferably Fluoride free. *facepalm* Beyond News Forum
  • Score: 11

6:46pm Tue 6 May 14

mr.mark.c says...

Lynn57 wrote:
So we are destined to another generation of the most frightful teeth if the people going around the town centre are anything to go by. Young people with missing and decayed teeth always amaze my relatives from southern Ireland who havehad fluoride added fifty years or so ago.
Well it does explain the jokes ;)
[quote][p][bold]Lynn57[/bold] wrote: So we are destined to another generation of the most frightful teeth if the people going around the town centre are anything to go by. Young people with missing and decayed teeth always amaze my relatives from southern Ireland who havehad fluoride added fifty years or so ago.[/p][/quote]Well it does explain the jokes ;) mr.mark.c
  • Score: 0

8:30pm Tue 6 May 14

CarlXVIGustaf says...

David Crausby may also want to consider if water companies should be allowed to continue adding phosphoric acid to the water at huge expense
David Crausby may also want to consider if water companies should be allowed to continue adding phosphoric acid to the water at huge expense CarlXVIGustaf
  • Score: 4

12:19am Wed 7 May 14

SiftaSam says...

Yes, if you take a small child and feed him water containing sodium fluoride, then the child's bones will take up the fluoride and the outward sign of that will be yellowing teeth with harder enamel which will be more resistant to dental caries - therefore 'healthier' teeth. But - there is a BEFORE and AFTER.
BEFORE - The child's mother has consumed 'fluoridated' water before and throughout her pregnancy. Sodium fluoride comes with its own contaminants of arsenic, lead and other metal sulphides because it isn't a purified 'medicinal' product. It's toxic industrial waste and that's the best that can be said for it. Sodium fluoride readily takes up metal ions, notably aluminium, from cooking foil, pans and kettles. In the pregnant woman, the fluoride carries these metals through the placenta and into the developing foetus. That's a one-way trip for these metals; they don't get back out. The baby is born with an overload of sodium fluoride, aluminium and other metals, and that is known to lead to brain and thyroid development problems and a greater chance of infant mortality. The water in Cumbria is 'fluoridated'. There has been a recent scandal of high infant mortality in Cumbrian hospitals. Take that as you will.
AFTER - The child with yellow but 'healthy' teeth grows up still consuming 'fluoridated' water. His bones continue to absorb the fluoride and become harder and more brittle, leading to an increased risk of broken bones during activity, and an increased risk of the need for hip replacement procedures in old age. Sodium fluoride continues to carry metal ions such as aluminium into his brain, leading to the early onslaught of Alzheimer's and dementia.
Is this a price to pay for healthier teeth in childhood?
Yes, if you take a small child and feed him water containing sodium fluoride, then the child's bones will take up the fluoride and the outward sign of that will be yellowing teeth with harder enamel which will be more resistant to dental caries - therefore 'healthier' teeth. But - there is a BEFORE and AFTER. BEFORE - The child's mother has consumed 'fluoridated' water before and throughout her pregnancy. Sodium fluoride comes with its own contaminants of arsenic, lead and other metal sulphides because it isn't a purified 'medicinal' product. It's toxic industrial waste and that's the best that can be said for it. Sodium fluoride readily takes up metal ions, notably aluminium, from cooking foil, pans and kettles. In the pregnant woman, the fluoride carries these metals through the placenta and into the developing foetus. That's a one-way trip for these metals; they don't get back out. The baby is born with an overload of sodium fluoride, aluminium and other metals, and that is known to lead to brain and thyroid development problems and a greater chance of infant mortality. The water in Cumbria is 'fluoridated'. There has been a recent scandal of high infant mortality in Cumbrian hospitals. Take that as you will. AFTER - The child with yellow but 'healthy' teeth grows up still consuming 'fluoridated' water. His bones continue to absorb the fluoride and become harder and more brittle, leading to an increased risk of broken bones during activity, and an increased risk of the need for hip replacement procedures in old age. Sodium fluoride continues to carry metal ions such as aluminium into his brain, leading to the early onslaught of Alzheimer's and dementia. Is this a price to pay for healthier teeth in childhood? SiftaSam
  • Score: 6

9:26pm Fri 30 May 14

Puffin-Billy says...

Cllr Thomas said: “The benefits of water fluoridation to oral health are well reported.

Making a change to the health of the population by deliberately forcing us to ingest fluoride is mass medication.
I don't want to be medicated by fluoride!
GET STUFFED!
Cllr Thomas said: “The benefits of water fluoridation to oral health are well reported. Making a change to the health of the population by deliberately forcing us to ingest fluoride is mass medication. I don't want to be medicated by fluoride! GET STUFFED! Puffin-Billy
  • Score: 0

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