Magistrates should be told about speeding drivers' previous 'excuses', says MP

Magistrates should be told about speeding drivers' previous 'excuses', says MP

Magistrates need more information on speeding, says MP

MP Julie Hilling

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MAGISTRATES should be told about “excuses” previously used by speeding drivers when considering new charges against them, according to a Bolton MP.

Julie Hilling, MP for Bolton West, is taking her campaign to get dangerous drivers off the road up a gear.

She is calling on the government to take tougher action on drivers who are still on the road, despite accumulating 12 points or more on their licence.

In January The Bolton News reported how a Bolton woman was still on the road despite clocking up 27 points on her driving licence — making her one of the worst drivers in the country.

Ms Hilling has tabled amendments to the Criminal Justice and Courts Bill and if her changes are approved, it would make it compulsory for magistrates who sentence driving offenders to know how many points drivers already have on their licence.

She is also calling for a change in the law to make sure that magistrates learn of any “exceptional circumstance” pleas have been previously used.

These pleas can often allow drivers, who should ordinarily be banned, to keep their licence.

She said: “I find it quite unbelievable that people are still driving around legally when then have totted up as many as 47 points for driving offences, when the normal level for disqualification is 12.

“While I am pleased that the government has now agreed to undertake a review of driving offences, this too little and unfortunately in some cases too late.

“More needs to be done and more can be done to help get this right and by accepting my amendments we would be heading in the right direction.”

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8:43am Thu 15 May 14

Wolfie190 says...

Dear sir I was driving my black vauxhall astra hire car up St Helens road at 80 mph because my cousins brother in laws next door neighbours BMW M3 is miles faster and I could barely keep up.
Dear sir I was driving my black vauxhall astra hire car up St Helens road at 80 mph because my cousins brother in laws next door neighbours BMW M3 is miles faster and I could barely keep up. Wolfie190
  • Score: 20

8:49am Thu 15 May 14

HOOSIER says...

Fast init man only dem subarus and evo's catch it nowot am sayin
Fast init man only dem subarus and evo's catch it nowot am sayin HOOSIER
  • Score: 16

8:53am Thu 15 May 14

Chrome1 says...

Erm on the story about the numpties that fled the restaurant without paying why haven't they been charged with theft? Surely it's in the public interest they be brought to account.
Erm on the story about the numpties that fled the restaurant without paying why haven't they been charged with theft? Surely it's in the public interest they be brought to account. Chrome1
  • Score: 12

9:19am Thu 15 May 14

akaroa44 says...

Chrome1 wrote:
Erm on the story about the numpties that fled the restaurant without paying why haven't they been charged with theft? Surely it's in the public interest they be brought to account.
I agree with you and surely the solution to this type of theft is for the customers to pay for their meals at the time the order their food.
[quote][p][bold]Chrome1[/bold] wrote: Erm on the story about the numpties that fled the restaurant without paying why haven't they been charged with theft? Surely it's in the public interest they be brought to account.[/p][/quote]I agree with you and surely the solution to this type of theft is for the customers to pay for their meals at the time the order their food. akaroa44
  • Score: 1

9:25am Thu 15 May 14

waka flocks flame says...

Chrome1 wrote:
Erm on the story about the numpties that fled the restaurant without paying why haven't they been charged with theft? Surely it's in the public interest they be brought to account.
They should at least have been named and shamed all four of them not just the men
[quote][p][bold]Chrome1[/bold] wrote: Erm on the story about the numpties that fled the restaurant without paying why haven't they been charged with theft? Surely it's in the public interest they be brought to account.[/p][/quote]They should at least have been named and shamed all four of them not just the men waka flocks flame
  • Score: 11

9:26am Thu 15 May 14

Thatissowrong says...

Well this is a first for me - I agree with Hilling. Oooooh that hurt, need to go and lie down for a while to recover.
Well this is a first for me - I agree with Hilling. Oooooh that hurt, need to go and lie down for a while to recover. Thatissowrong
  • Score: 12

10:15am Thu 15 May 14

itsnotthatbad says...

has anyone noticed how empty daubhill and deane is during this "week of action" by the police..... roads are bit more emptier than normal. Think a few driveways have cars hidden from view so they cant see the expired tax disc....
has anyone noticed how empty daubhill and deane is during this "week of action" by the police..... roads are bit more emptier than normal. Think a few driveways have cars hidden from view so they cant see the expired tax disc.... itsnotthatbad
  • Score: 10

10:41am Thu 15 May 14

Jim271 says...

"I was driving at 80mph up Derby Street because it was Ramadan and I had to get to the Mosque to pray, I know the tax and MOT are out of date but its my uncles car and he's in Pakistan at the moment on business, and I know you cannot take the car off me because I need it to work as a taxi driver,"

The above conversation actually happened.
"I was driving at 80mph up Derby Street because it was Ramadan and I had to get to the Mosque to pray, I know the tax and MOT are out of date but its my uncles car and he's in Pakistan at the moment on business, and I know you cannot take the car off me because I need it to work as a taxi driver," The above conversation actually happened. Jim271
  • Score: 9

10:53am Thu 15 May 14

Randolf Litler !!! says...

And so they should be told about previous convictions, i think this should be the norm for anyone appearing before a court for everyone.
Derby st/st helens road would be safer to drive on and people can cross the road without fear of being hit by a so called "hire car" that was lent to them by a friend of a friend who does have a license and insurance but for some reason it is at another address somewhere in another part of the country.
And yes i agree how the crackdown on illegals and counterfeit goods had them all running about like cockroaches, and the guy in the shop at P&P food and wine, church avenue has been removed from a house not far from the shop not that long ago as he should not have been over here.
As for kolas on derby st, with the mice infestation i'm surprised they found any droppings with all the stuff he has in that shop.
And so they should be told about previous convictions, i think this should be the norm for anyone appearing before a court for everyone. Derby st/st helens road would be safer to drive on and people can cross the road without fear of being hit by a so called "hire car" that was lent to them by a friend of a friend who does have a license and insurance but for some reason it is at another address somewhere in another part of the country. And yes i agree how the crackdown on illegals and counterfeit goods had them all running about like cockroaches, and the guy in the shop at P&P food and wine, church avenue has been removed from a house not far from the shop not that long ago as he should not have been over here. As for kolas on derby st, with the mice infestation i'm surprised they found any droppings with all the stuff he has in that shop. Randolf Litler !!!
  • Score: 3

1:07pm Thu 15 May 14

piszoff says...

If they get any softer or out of touch be an ASBO for your first murder. 47 points that is taking the pizz.
If they get any softer or out of touch be an ASBO for your first murder. 47 points that is taking the pizz. piszoff
  • Score: 4

1:14pm Thu 15 May 14

cliff4treasurer says...

What about a law for people who drive too slowly on purpose just to aggravate the driver behind them?
What about a law for people who sit in the off side lane on a dual carriageway (Crompton way?) when neither overtaking or turning right?
What about a law for people don't indicate at roundabouts?
What about a law for people who sit at green traffic lights?
what about a law for people who drive round at night with anything other than dipped headlights?
What about a law for drivers who when approaching a junction at a major road don't stop until the length of there bonnet is in the major road (Church rd.?)
What about a law for drivers who use unmarked junctions (on estates?) as a "right of way" for themselves?
What about a law for drivers who pull onto a roundabout without giving way to traffic entering to there right?
What about banning drivers instantly who are caught using mobiles phones while driving as it is proved to be as bad if not worse then drink/drug driving?
Speeding, anyone would think it was election time!!!!!!!!!
What about a law for people who drive too slowly on purpose just to aggravate the driver behind them? What about a law for people who sit in the off side lane on a dual carriageway (Crompton way?) when neither overtaking or turning right? What about a law for people don't indicate at roundabouts? What about a law for people who sit at green traffic lights? what about a law for people who drive round at night with anything other than dipped headlights? What about a law for drivers who when approaching a junction at a major road don't stop until the length of there bonnet is in the major road (Church rd.?) What about a law for drivers who use unmarked junctions (on estates?) as a "right of way" for themselves? What about a law for drivers who pull onto a roundabout without giving way to traffic entering to there right? What about banning drivers instantly who are caught using mobiles phones while driving as it is proved to be as bad if not worse then drink/drug driving? Speeding, anyone would think it was election time!!!!!!!!! cliff4treasurer
  • Score: -1

4:31pm Fri 16 May 14

Puffin-Billy says...

To anyone who is of the opinion that speed does not kill, may I suggest the following experiment which can be carried out in the comfort of one's own home.

A. Stand facing a good solid brick wall, your toes touching the skirting board, having first removed ornaments and protruding nails etc. (although you may prefer to leave them on the wall, depending on how macho you are).

B. Slowly and gently make contact between your forehead and the wall, as if to kiss your nearest and dearest goodbye.

C. Repeat several times, whilst each time increasing the rate of travel of your forehead.

D. You may become aware of a slight irritation, pain, bruising, or even bloodstains in the region of your forehead , accompanied by staining and / or minor damage to the wall.

E. You may experience the urge to slow down, or to abandon the experiment altogether. Whatever happens, you should persevere;
"no pain - no gain" must be your motto; the proof of your manhood is at stake! These things take hours of practice, and usually involve the consumption of gallons of fuel, the completion of lots of paperwork, a visit to hospital, or even the morgue - you are lucky to undergo this experience in the comfort of your own home!

F. Several things will be happening by the time you start to feel the pain.
You may experience flashing lights, or a ringing sound in your ears, or weakness of the knees. You may even hear the sound of voices attempting to dissuade you from reaching your goal.

Do not be put off - soon you will be the proud owner of the Jeremy Clarkson Memorial Trophy - and quite possibly be slightly dead.
To anyone who is of the opinion that speed does not kill, may I suggest the following experiment which can be carried out in the comfort of one's own home. A. Stand facing a good solid brick wall, your toes touching the skirting board, having first removed ornaments and protruding nails etc. (although you may prefer to leave them on the wall, depending on how macho you are). B. Slowly and gently make contact between your forehead and the wall, as if to kiss your nearest and dearest goodbye. C. Repeat several times, whilst each time increasing the rate of travel of your forehead. D. You may become aware of a slight irritation, pain, bruising, or even bloodstains in the region of your forehead , accompanied by staining and / or minor damage to the wall. E. You may experience the urge to slow down, or to abandon the experiment altogether. Whatever happens, you should persevere; "no pain - no gain" must be your motto; the proof of your manhood is at stake! These things take hours of practice, and usually involve the consumption of gallons of fuel, the completion of lots of paperwork, a visit to hospital, or even the morgue - you are lucky to undergo this experience in the comfort of your own home! F. Several things will be happening by the time you start to feel the pain. You may experience flashing lights, or a ringing sound in your ears, or weakness of the knees. You may even hear the sound of voices attempting to dissuade you from reaching your goal. Do not be put off - soon you will be the proud owner of the Jeremy Clarkson Memorial Trophy - and quite possibly be slightly dead. Puffin-Billy
  • Score: 0

4:22pm Tue 20 May 14

Bolton First says...

Any motoring problems should be refered to Bolton South East, Yasmin Q MP, as a lawyer, politician and expert driver she could sort things out if anyone can.
Any motoring problems should be refered to Bolton South East, Yasmin Q MP, as a lawyer, politician and expert driver she could sort things out if anyone can. Bolton First
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