'Only room for one cinema in Bolton town centre'

The Bolton News: 'Only room for one cinema in Bolton town centre' 'Only room for one cinema in Bolton town centre'

BOLTON is only big enough for one town centre cinema, council officers have admitted ahead of a crunch planning meeting.

But they have recommended that councillors approve Crompton Place’s plans for an 11-screen cinema — despite the fact work will start on a nine-screen cinema in Market Place in the next few weeks.

The rival shopping centres both submitted applications to build a cinema in a bid to bring more families into their businesses in the evenings.

However, planning officers have stated that competition cannot be a factor when making a decision about individual planning applications, even if it means the success of both schemes is put in jeopardy.

In a report to the planning committee, which meets on Thursday, Bolton Council officer Martin Mansell recommended Crompton Place’s application to convert the vacant TK Maxx unit, the first floor of New Look and Games Workshop into a cinema be approved as “acceptable and welcome”.

Included in the blueprint are also plans to convert 10 internal retail units into four new restaurants.

Mr Mansell added: “Practically, it is accepted that demand is only likely to be sufficient for one town centre cinema at the scale proposed by the Market Place and Crompton Place schemes.

“It has been put to the council that, because of this, the two applications need to be considered against each other.

“However, it is generally accepted that the planning system should not seek simply to interfere in the market where there is competition.

“On this basis it is not considered that there is a case for distinguishing or choosing between the schemes in terms of town centre policy and so it should be for the market to determine which of the schemes — or if indeed both — are realised.”

In May the owners of Crompton Place, Santander, threatened legal action as councillors backed the Moorgarth Group’s £15 million refurbishment of the Grade-II Market Place, which includes a cinema and restaurants in the vaulted basements.

Comments (21)

Please log in to enable comment sorting

1:19pm Sat 31 May 14

Degeneration. says...

Thats church wharf development screwed now as if it wasnt already.
Thats church wharf development screwed now as if it wasnt already. Degeneration.
  • Score: 13

1:27pm Sat 31 May 14

MrUpton says...

Cinema is not the answer, we have the valley and reebok which are both better places to go putting one in the town centre won't increase footfall - fact. because of parking charges.

This council get more stupid by the minute
Cinema is not the answer, we have the valley and reebok which are both better places to go putting one in the town centre won't increase footfall - fact. because of parking charges. This council get more stupid by the minute MrUpton
  • Score: -4

1:58pm Sat 31 May 14

Browny91 says...

Vote Market Place!
Vote Market Place! Browny91
  • Score: 4

1:59pm Sat 31 May 14

nigella farrage says...

MrUpton wrote:
Cinema is not the answer, we have the valley and reebok which are both better places to go putting one in the town centre won't increase footfall - fact. because of parking charges. This council get more stupid by the minute
Parking charges???

Market Place car park is free for first 90 minutes during the week

There is plenty of free street parking after 6pm

The main multi-stories, near Market Place, are free at the weekend.

As for those who would like a drink either before or after seeing a film thee complexes will be far easier to get to with public transport as neither The Valley nor Middlebrook have good enough transport links!
[quote][p][bold]MrUpton[/bold] wrote: Cinema is not the answer, we have the valley and reebok which are both better places to go putting one in the town centre won't increase footfall - fact. because of parking charges. This council get more stupid by the minute[/p][/quote]Parking charges??? Market Place car park is free for first 90 minutes during the week There is plenty of free street parking after 6pm The main multi-stories, near Market Place, are free at the weekend. As for those who would like a drink either before or after seeing a film thee complexes will be far easier to get to with public transport as neither The Valley nor Middlebrook have good enough transport links! nigella farrage
  • Score: 34

3:00pm Sat 31 May 14

Reality50 says...

We need a skating rink,a go kart track and a bowling alley as well as a cinema.
We need a skating rink,a go kart track and a bowling alley as well as a cinema. Reality50
  • Score: 30

3:02pm Sat 31 May 14

Reality50 says...

MrUpton wrote:
Cinema is not the answer, we have the valley and reebok which are both better places to go putting one in the town centre won't increase footfall - fact. because of parking charges.

This council get more stupid by the minute
Disagree. For people in the likes of Farnworth or Little Lever,the Valley and Middlebrook are miles away. The town centre is far better for these things.
[quote][p][bold]MrUpton[/bold] wrote: Cinema is not the answer, we have the valley and reebok which are both better places to go putting one in the town centre won't increase footfall - fact. because of parking charges. This council get more stupid by the minute[/p][/quote]Disagree. For people in the likes of Farnworth or Little Lever,the Valley and Middlebrook are miles away. The town centre is far better for these things. Reality50
  • Score: 29

3:35pm Sat 31 May 14

Hulton Park says...

On what basis does council planning (we assume) officer Mr Mansell says Bolton is only big enough for one town centre cinema?

Who told him to say this?
On what basis does council planning (we assume) officer Mr Mansell says Bolton is only big enough for one town centre cinema? Who told him to say this? Hulton Park
  • Score: -2

3:58pm Sat 31 May 14

owencoyle99 says...

How come he says only one cinema

Bolton town centre used to have Odean, Queens, Rialto, Lido, Capitol to name a few
How come he says only one cinema Bolton town centre used to have Odean, Queens, Rialto, Lido, Capitol to name a few owencoyle99
  • Score: 8

4:06pm Sat 31 May 14

calvin street says...

the cinema in Crompton place could show Bollywood, Hungarian and Polish films. The place would be rammed out. The eastern Europeans can make a day of it A three course meal at Subway, an hours pilfering in Primark , finished off with a Hungarian film about gypsy travellers.
the cinema in Crompton place could show Bollywood, Hungarian and Polish films. The place would be rammed out. The eastern Europeans can make a day of it A three course meal at Subway, an hours pilfering in Primark , finished off with a Hungarian film about gypsy travellers. calvin street
  • Score: 24

5:07pm Sat 31 May 14

MrUpton says...

Reality50 wrote:
MrUpton wrote:
Cinema is not the answer, we have the valley and reebok which are both better places to go putting one in the town centre won't increase footfall - fact. because of parking charges.

This council get more stupid by the minute
Disagree. For people in the likes of Farnworth or Little Lever,the Valley and Middlebrook are miles away. The town centre is far better for these things.
Fair point,

But does 5 mins down St Peters way cause a problem?
[quote][p][bold]Reality50[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MrUpton[/bold] wrote: Cinema is not the answer, we have the valley and reebok which are both better places to go putting one in the town centre won't increase footfall - fact. because of parking charges. This council get more stupid by the minute[/p][/quote]Disagree. For people in the likes of Farnworth or Little Lever,the Valley and Middlebrook are miles away. The town centre is far better for these things.[/p][/quote]Fair point, But does 5 mins down St Peters way cause a problem? MrUpton
  • Score: 4

7:09pm Sat 31 May 14

Smeagol says...

Reality50 wrote:
We need a skating rink,a go kart track and a bowling alley as well as a cinema.
Ah bring back The Navada! :)
[quote][p][bold]Reality50[/bold] wrote: We need a skating rink,a go kart track and a bowling alley as well as a cinema.[/p][/quote]Ah bring back The Navada! :) Smeagol
  • Score: 14

7:41pm Sat 31 May 14

the hand says...

calvin street wrote:
the cinema in Crompton place could show Bollywood, Hungarian and Polish films. The place would be rammed out. The eastern Europeans can make a day of it A three course meal at Subway, an hours pilfering in Primark , finished off with a Hungarian film about gypsy travellers.
Bang on mate best comment and laugh for awhile
[quote][p][bold]calvin street[/bold] wrote: the cinema in Crompton place could show Bollywood, Hungarian and Polish films. The place would be rammed out. The eastern Europeans can make a day of it A three course meal at Subway, an hours pilfering in Primark , finished off with a Hungarian film about gypsy travellers.[/p][/quote]Bang on mate best comment and laugh for awhile the hand
  • Score: 7

2:44am Sun 1 Jun 14

Fergis says...

Like the council give a **** what we want!
Like the council give a **** what we want! Fergis
  • Score: 7

9:37am Sun 1 Jun 14

Boltonresident2012 says...

MrUpton wrote:
Reality50 wrote:
MrUpton wrote:
Cinema is not the answer, we have the valley and reebok which are both better places to go putting one in the town centre won't increase footfall - fact. because of parking charges.

This council get more stupid by the minute
Disagree. For people in the likes of Farnworth or Little Lever,the Valley and Middlebrook are miles away. The town centre is far better for these things.
Fair point,

But does 5 mins down St Peters way cause a problem?
assuming everyone has a car
[quote][p][bold]MrUpton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Reality50[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MrUpton[/bold] wrote: Cinema is not the answer, we have the valley and reebok which are both better places to go putting one in the town centre won't increase footfall - fact. because of parking charges. This council get more stupid by the minute[/p][/quote]Disagree. For people in the likes of Farnworth or Little Lever,the Valley and Middlebrook are miles away. The town centre is far better for these things.[/p][/quote]Fair point, But does 5 mins down St Peters way cause a problem?[/p][/quote]assuming everyone has a car Boltonresident2012
  • Score: 17

10:36am Sun 1 Jun 14

oftbewildered2 says...

MrUpton wrote:
Reality50 wrote:
MrUpton wrote:
Cinema is not the answer, we have the valley and reebok which are both better places to go putting one in the town centre won't increase footfall - fact. because of parking charges.

This council get more stupid by the minute
Disagree. For people in the likes of Farnworth or Little Lever,the Valley and Middlebrook are miles away. The town centre is far better for these things.
Fair point,

But does 5 mins down St Peters way cause a problem?
it would do if you do not have the use of a car
[quote][p][bold]MrUpton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Reality50[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MrUpton[/bold] wrote: Cinema is not the answer, we have the valley and reebok which are both better places to go putting one in the town centre won't increase footfall - fact. because of parking charges. This council get more stupid by the minute[/p][/quote]Disagree. For people in the likes of Farnworth or Little Lever,the Valley and Middlebrook are miles away. The town centre is far better for these things.[/p][/quote]Fair point, But does 5 mins down St Peters way cause a problem?[/p][/quote]it would do if you do not have the use of a car oftbewildered2
  • Score: 11

4:50pm Sun 1 Jun 14

Beyond News Forum says...

Smeagol wrote:
Reality50 wrote:
We need a skating rink,a go kart track and a bowling alley as well as a cinema.
Ah bring back The Navada! :)
All of these. Ice-Skating for sure and create a new team to compete in the hockey leagues that we can back as a town. Bolton Blades, Bolton Wanderers (Ice Hockey Club - eh Eddie Davis?)
[quote][p][bold]Smeagol[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Reality50[/bold] wrote: We need a skating rink,a go kart track and a bowling alley as well as a cinema.[/p][/quote]Ah bring back The Navada! :)[/p][/quote]All of these. Ice-Skating for sure and create a new team to compete in the hockey leagues that we can back as a town. Bolton Blades, Bolton Wanderers (Ice Hockey Club - eh Eddie Davis?) Beyond News Forum
  • Score: 10

12:03pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Jim271 says...

how are people going to be picked up or dropped off at Crompton Place or the Market Place?

It looks like they are going to have to adjust the bus lanes because cars will be parking up to let people out and waiting to pick people up, they wont mess about going into the multi story,

The valley and the Reebok will allow for that but there's going to be some traffic congestion, but then again the council will rake in the bus lane fines.
how are people going to be picked up or dropped off at Crompton Place or the Market Place? It looks like they are going to have to adjust the bus lanes because cars will be parking up to let people out and waiting to pick people up, they wont mess about going into the multi story, The valley and the Reebok will allow for that but there's going to be some traffic congestion, but then again the council will rake in the bus lane fines. Jim271
  • Score: -1

12:22pm Mon 2 Jun 14

the hand says...

MrUpton wrote:
Reality50 wrote:
MrUpton wrote:
Cinema is not the answer, we have the valley and reebok which are both better places to go putting one in the town centre won't increase footfall - fact. because of parking charges.

This council get more stupid by the minute
Disagree. For people in the likes of Farnworth or Little Lever,the Valley and Middlebrook are miles away. The town centre is far better for these things.
Fair point,

But does 5 mins down St Peters way cause a problem?
People in Farnsworth could catch a train from Moses gate how hard could that be get of at horwich parkway and walk yes that's right I said walk the rest of the way ten mins walking at most if they've got it in them believe it or not before every one had cars we used to catch a bus or coach to places like blackpool or Southport or Morecambe for a day out and you moan about the middlebrook being to far out for the likes of Farnsworth or little liver no wonder we are becoming a nation of obese people
[quote][p][bold]MrUpton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Reality50[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MrUpton[/bold] wrote: Cinema is not the answer, we have the valley and reebok which are both better places to go putting one in the town centre won't increase footfall - fact. because of parking charges. This council get more stupid by the minute[/p][/quote]Disagree. For people in the likes of Farnworth or Little Lever,the Valley and Middlebrook are miles away. The town centre is far better for these things.[/p][/quote]Fair point, But does 5 mins down St Peters way cause a problem?[/p][/quote]People in Farnsworth could catch a train from Moses gate how hard could that be get of at horwich parkway and walk yes that's right I said walk the rest of the way ten mins walking at most if they've got it in them believe it or not before every one had cars we used to catch a bus or coach to places like blackpool or Southport or Morecambe for a day out and you moan about the middlebrook being to far out for the likes of Farnsworth or little liver no wonder we are becoming a nation of obese people the hand
  • Score: -1

1:07pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Albinosupport says...

We had two very good cinema's in Bolton, both of which are no longer around, the Odeon was turned into a Bingo hall then demolished and now the land has sat empty for quite a number of years. If we didn't need them back then and they closed what has changed? I do agree however, that we need to improve the entertainment facilities Bolton has on offer, instead of an 11 screen cinema why not have a five screen then incorporate an indoor skate park, bowling alley and ice rink all under one roof - a Super Centre of entertainment for us all to enjoy?
We had two very good cinema's in Bolton, both of which are no longer around, the Odeon was turned into a Bingo hall then demolished and now the land has sat empty for quite a number of years. If we didn't need them back then and they closed what has changed? I do agree however, that we need to improve the entertainment facilities Bolton has on offer, instead of an 11 screen cinema why not have a five screen then incorporate an indoor skate park, bowling alley and ice rink all under one roof - a Super Centre of entertainment for us all to enjoy? Albinosupport
  • Score: 3

8:45pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Puffin-Billy says...

So we'll ignore our own advice (costly and given by experts I presume) and go ahead with it anyway. Brilliant !
So we'll ignore our own advice (costly and given by experts I presume) and go ahead with it anyway. Brilliant ! Puffin-Billy
  • Score: 0

8:09am Wed 4 Jun 14

Valiant One says...

The cinemas are not being paid for by Bolton Council. They are both private enterprises.The Council's involvement is in giving planning permission. It is not in planning law to consider whether the business is viable or not.Market forces will decide whether one or both or neither of the cinemas survive. That's what applies to all businesses.
As for the huge number of cinemas that once stood in Bolton. They thrived in the pre television days but only the fittest survived tv. It was the owners of the cinemas who demolished them when they were no longer making a profit.
The cinemas are not being paid for by Bolton Council. They are both private enterprises.The Council's involvement is in giving planning permission. It is not in planning law to consider whether the business is viable or not.Market forces will decide whether one or both or neither of the cinemas survive. That's what applies to all businesses. As for the huge number of cinemas that once stood in Bolton. They thrived in the pre television days but only the fittest survived tv. It was the owners of the cinemas who demolished them when they were no longer making a profit. Valiant One
  • Score: 1

Comments are closed on this article.

click2find

About cookies

We want you to enjoy your visit to our website. That's why we use cookies to enhance your experience. By staying on our website you agree to our use of cookies. Find out more about the cookies we use.

I agree