Horwich street compared to something out of 'third world' - but councillor thinks it's 'nice and green'

Horwich street compared to something out of 'third world' - but councillor thinks it's 'nice and green'

Resident John Halliwell in the back street, which he says looks like 'something out of the third world'

Resident John Halliwell in the back street, which he says looks like 'something out of the third world'

Resident John Halliwell in the back street, which he says looks like 'something out of the third world'

Cllr Andrew Morley

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AN overgrown Horwich street has been compared to something out of the "third world".

Horwich resident John Halliwell spoke at the latest meeting of Horwich Town Council about the state of a back street next to his Horwich home, which he branded disgraceful because of weeds, piles of soil and disrepair.

Mr Halliwell told the council: “The road is an absolute disgrace. I would describe it as looking like something from the Third World.

"It needs digging out right through the middle because nothing has been done for the 47 years I have lived there.”

He handed pictures of the back street, situated between Brownlow Road where he lives, and St Annes Road, to councillors, asking them: “Is this really somewhere you would like to live?”

Councillor Andrew Morley disagreed with Mr Halliwell’s complaints and said: “Looking at this picture I think it looks very nice. There are much worse places; it is nice and green in my opinion.”

The comments were not well received by 75-year-old Mr Halliwell who labelled Cllr Morley “ignorant”, saying: “If you think that as a Horwich town councillor, then you are downright ignorant and you should resign.”

Asked by Cllr Morley if he would consider standing for a seat on the town council, an angry Mr Halliwell responded: “If I had to come and sit here and listen to your claptrap then we would fall out.”

New council leader Kevin McKeon said that, while he understood that residents get upset about weeds, “Bolton Council can’t be held responsible for every back street in Bolton — particularly with cutbacks to funding.”

But Cllr Joyce Kellett disagreed, and said: “These things are a hazard, and I don’t think we should dismiss this. It’s not acceptable and we should do what we can to resolve it.”

The council then voted in agreement with a proposal from Horwich Mayor, Cllr Richard Silvester, who suggested that the Bolton councillors who sit on the town council should raise the matter with the neighbourhood services department to see what can be done.

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11:29am Mon 2 Jun 14

Jim271 says...

"Bolton council cant be held responsible for every back street in Bolton"

err, sorry but you are, that's what we are paying our council tax for.

sack this joker today for making such a stupid comment.
"Bolton council cant be held responsible for every back street in Bolton" err, sorry but you are, that's what we are paying our council tax for. sack this joker today for making such a stupid comment. Jim271
  • Score: 67

11:51am Mon 2 Jun 14

MrUpton says...

Kevin McKeon - you have a duty of care to make sure EVERY street in Bolton is safe.

That is the councils job, never mind washing your hands of it because of Cutback that are a result of a previous LABOUR governments actions.

Try cutting the grass properly which houses hidden dangers such as broken glass bottles on which children can cut themselves and dog dirt now hidden because the council refuse to cut back the grass properly
Kevin McKeon - you have a duty of care to make sure EVERY street in Bolton is safe. That is the councils job, never mind washing your hands of it because of Cutback that are a result of a previous LABOUR governments actions. Try cutting the grass properly which houses hidden dangers such as broken glass bottles on which children can cut themselves and dog dirt now hidden because the council refuse to cut back the grass properly MrUpton
  • Score: 32

11:54am Mon 2 Jun 14

Beyond News Forum says...

Jim271 wrote:
"Bolton council cant be held responsible for every back street in Bolton"

err, sorry but you are, that's what we are paying our council tax for.

sack this joker today for making such a stupid comment.
I tend to agree Jim, but there is a lot of confusion with these 'unadopted' roads.

What I suggest with the residents is that they check to see if the road unadopted. If it is unadopted then the should come together to register community planning and then get creative.

If the council refuse to accept responsibility then the road can be legally challenged as belonging to the properties in situ.
[quote][p][bold]Jim271[/bold] wrote: "Bolton council cant be held responsible for every back street in Bolton" err, sorry but you are, that's what we are paying our council tax for. sack this joker today for making such a stupid comment.[/p][/quote]I tend to agree Jim, but there is a lot of confusion with these 'unadopted' roads. What I suggest with the residents is that they check to see if the road unadopted. If it is unadopted then the should come together to register community planning and then get creative. If the council refuse to accept responsibility then the road can be legally challenged as belonging to the properties in situ. Beyond News Forum
  • Score: 32

12:07pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Lee3695 says...

Beyond News Forum wrote:
Jim271 wrote: "Bolton council cant be held responsible for every back street in Bolton" err, sorry but you are, that's what we are paying our council tax for. sack this joker today for making such a stupid comment.
I tend to agree Jim, but there is a lot of confusion with these 'unadopted' roads. What I suggest with the residents is that they check to see if the road unadopted. If it is unadopted then the should come together to register community planning and then get creative. If the council refuse to accept responsibility then the road can be legally challenged as belonging to the properties in situ.
You are nearly correct. The Local Highway Authority is only responsible for roads which are under the councils ownership, referred to as 'Adopted Highway'. However they can maintain unadopted (private) roads under a Maintenance Agreement. However the maintenance of unadopted roads not covered by a maintenance agreement is the responsibility of the landowners.
[quote][p][bold]Beyond News Forum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jim271[/bold] wrote: "Bolton council cant be held responsible for every back street in Bolton" err, sorry but you are, that's what we are paying our council tax for. sack this joker today for making such a stupid comment.[/p][/quote]I tend to agree Jim, but there is a lot of confusion with these 'unadopted' roads. What I suggest with the residents is that they check to see if the road unadopted. If it is unadopted then the should come together to register community planning and then get creative. If the council refuse to accept responsibility then the road can be legally challenged as belonging to the properties in situ.[/p][/quote]You are nearly correct. The Local Highway Authority is only responsible for roads which are under the councils ownership, referred to as 'Adopted Highway'. However they can maintain unadopted (private) roads under a Maintenance Agreement. However the maintenance of unadopted roads not covered by a maintenance agreement is the responsibility of the landowners. Lee3695
  • Score: 16

12:19pm Mon 2 Jun 14

thomas222 says...

Lot to be said for UKIPs recall policy for stupid ignorant Cllrs & MPs.
Lot to be said for UKIPs recall policy for stupid ignorant Cllrs & MPs. thomas222
  • Score: 8

12:27pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Beyond News Forum says...

Lee3695 wrote:
Beyond News Forum wrote:
Jim271 wrote: "Bolton council cant be held responsible for every back street in Bolton" err, sorry but you are, that's what we are paying our council tax for. sack this joker today for making such a stupid comment.
I tend to agree Jim, but there is a lot of confusion with these 'unadopted' roads. What I suggest with the residents is that they check to see if the road unadopted. If it is unadopted then the should come together to register community planning and then get creative. If the council refuse to accept responsibility then the road can be legally challenged as belonging to the properties in situ.
You are nearly correct. The Local Highway Authority is only responsible for roads which are under the councils ownership, referred to as 'Adopted Highway'. However they can maintain unadopted (private) roads under a Maintenance Agreement. However the maintenance of unadopted roads not covered by a maintenance agreement is the responsibility of the landowners.
Adding exactly what you say Lee, this is what needs to be checked by the residents to see who and what constitutes to ownership or maintenance and then they can get creative as a community :p
[quote][p][bold]Lee3695[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Beyond News Forum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jim271[/bold] wrote: "Bolton council cant be held responsible for every back street in Bolton" err, sorry but you are, that's what we are paying our council tax for. sack this joker today for making such a stupid comment.[/p][/quote]I tend to agree Jim, but there is a lot of confusion with these 'unadopted' roads. What I suggest with the residents is that they check to see if the road unadopted. If it is unadopted then the should come together to register community planning and then get creative. If the council refuse to accept responsibility then the road can be legally challenged as belonging to the properties in situ.[/p][/quote]You are nearly correct. The Local Highway Authority is only responsible for roads which are under the councils ownership, referred to as 'Adopted Highway'. However they can maintain unadopted (private) roads under a Maintenance Agreement. However the maintenance of unadopted roads not covered by a maintenance agreement is the responsibility of the landowners.[/p][/quote]Adding exactly what you say Lee, this is what needs to be checked by the residents to see who and what constitutes to ownership or maintenance and then they can get creative as a community :p Beyond News Forum
  • Score: 11

12:58pm Mon 2 Jun 14

hal pel says...

Which part of the third world?
Which part of the third world? hal pel
  • Score: 14

1:00pm Mon 2 Jun 14

davidjb says...

should come and have a look at my back street then and its not even green!
should come and have a look at my back street then and its not even green! davidjb
  • Score: 13

1:00pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Rememberscarborough says...

Third world?? I suspect the people in Syria might be quite happy to swap houses with Mr Halliwell....
Third world?? I suspect the people in Syria might be quite happy to swap houses with Mr Halliwell.... Rememberscarborough
  • Score: 11

1:19pm Mon 2 Jun 14

renovatedhouserunner says...

Mine is worse but they won't do anything because it's unadopted yet they are quite happy to dump excess tarmac there when a local job is being done near to it
Mine is worse but they won't do anything because it's unadopted yet they are quite happy to dump excess tarmac there when a local job is being done near to it renovatedhouserunner
  • Score: 13

1:46pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Brumas says...

The state of the back Brownlow Road/ St Anne's Road, is quite disgraceful with piles of soil and weeds etc and there are a large amount, but nothing has changed other than the residents and their attitudes. I once lived with that has my back street, about Thirty years ago, then, weeds would still grow if residents let them, but in those days they didn't let them, nor did they leave piles of soil, so there is your answer to that.

The bigger shame on Horwich and Bolton Council's are the state of the weeds in Lee lane, which are three foot tall in places near the Public Hall, what a disgrace.
The state of the back Brownlow Road/ St Anne's Road, is quite disgraceful with piles of soil and weeds etc and there are a large amount, but nothing has changed other than the residents and their attitudes. I once lived with that has my back street, about Thirty years ago, then, weeds would still grow if residents let them, but in those days they didn't let them, nor did they leave piles of soil, so there is your answer to that. The bigger shame on Horwich and Bolton Council's are the state of the weeds in Lee lane, which are three foot tall in places near the Public Hall, what a disgrace. Brumas
  • Score: 16

2:11pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Puffin-Billy says...

Third world?
Grass is natural and good for the environment and wee beasties.
Litter is bad and is an eyesore.
Lets have wild flower meadows in all our back streets just like they're doing with the roundabouts - brilliant job!
Third world? Grass is natural and good for the environment and wee beasties. Litter is bad and is an eyesore. Lets have wild flower meadows in all our back streets just like they're doing with the roundabouts - brilliant job! Puffin-Billy
  • Score: 18

2:12pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Puffin-Billy says...

Puffin-Billy wrote:
Third world?
Grass is natural and good for the environment and wee beasties.
Litter is bad and is an eyesore.
Lets have wild flower meadows in all our back streets just like they're doing with the roundabouts - brilliant job!
Horwich is a proper noun, by the way, and so it ought be spelled with a capital H.
[quote][p][bold]Puffin-Billy[/bold] wrote: Third world? Grass is natural and good for the environment and wee beasties. Litter is bad and is an eyesore. Lets have wild flower meadows in all our back streets just like they're doing with the roundabouts - brilliant job![/p][/quote]Horwich is a proper noun, by the way, and so it ought be spelled with a capital H. Puffin-Billy
  • Score: -11

2:12pm Mon 2 Jun 14

marco999 says...

My friends used to live on St Anne's road and I was familiar with the back street there. Yes it's overgrown with weeds but it's no worse than a lot of back streets in the borough. At one time the residents would have regularly swept and cleaned the area at the back of their houses (and front come to that) but attitudes have changed and now it's 'some else's problem'. I clean, sweep and weed both the front and back paved areas of my house just so it's presentable but sadly I am the only one in the street to do so. If people didn't drop litter, fly tip, leave dog poo on the pavement or vandalise things then we'd all be living in a nice clean and presentable environment wouldn't we?
My friends used to live on St Anne's road and I was familiar with the back street there. Yes it's overgrown with weeds but it's no worse than a lot of back streets in the borough. At one time the residents would have regularly swept and cleaned the area at the back of their houses (and front come to that) but attitudes have changed and now it's 'some else's problem'. I clean, sweep and weed both the front and back paved areas of my house just so it's presentable but sadly I am the only one in the street to do so. If people didn't drop litter, fly tip, leave dog poo on the pavement or vandalise things then we'd all be living in a nice clean and presentable environment wouldn't we? marco999
  • Score: 42

2:15pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Jim271 says...

Rememberscarborough wrote:
Third world?? I suspect the people in Syria might be quite happy to swap houses with Mr Halliwell....
in six months he probably will be living next door to Syrian so called refugees the way Bolton Council operate.
[quote][p][bold]Rememberscarborough[/bold] wrote: Third world?? I suspect the people in Syria might be quite happy to swap houses with Mr Halliwell....[/p][/quote]in six months he probably will be living next door to Syrian so called refugees the way Bolton Council operate. Jim271
  • Score: 6

2:22pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Puffin-Billy says...

Jim271 wrote:
Rememberscarborough wrote:
Third world?? I suspect the people in Syria might be quite happy to swap houses with Mr Halliwell....
in six months he probably will be living next door to Syrian so called refugees the way Bolton Council operate.
How about we stop sending their enemies poison gas and arms - that might improve matters.
[quote][p][bold]Jim271[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rememberscarborough[/bold] wrote: Third world?? I suspect the people in Syria might be quite happy to swap houses with Mr Halliwell....[/p][/quote]in six months he probably will be living next door to Syrian so called refugees the way Bolton Council operate.[/p][/quote]How about we stop sending their enemies poison gas and arms - that might improve matters. Puffin-Billy
  • Score: 5

2:25pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Puffin-Billy says...

MrUpton wrote:
Kevin McKeon - you have a duty of care to make sure EVERY street in Bolton is safe.

That is the councils job, never mind washing your hands of it because of Cutback that are a result of a previous LABOUR governments actions.

Try cutting the grass properly which houses hidden dangers such as broken glass bottles on which children can cut themselves and dog dirt now hidden because the council refuse to cut back the grass properly
EVERY street?
I thought that was in Ancoats!
[quote][p][bold]MrUpton[/bold] wrote: Kevin McKeon - you have a duty of care to make sure EVERY street in Bolton is safe. That is the councils job, never mind washing your hands of it because of Cutback that are a result of a previous LABOUR governments actions. Try cutting the grass properly which houses hidden dangers such as broken glass bottles on which children can cut themselves and dog dirt now hidden because the council refuse to cut back the grass properly[/p][/quote]EVERY street? I thought that was in Ancoats! Puffin-Billy
  • Score: -5

3:05pm Mon 2 Jun 14

MrUpton says...

Puffin-Billy wrote:
MrUpton wrote:
Kevin McKeon - you have a duty of care to make sure EVERY street in Bolton is safe.

That is the councils job, never mind washing your hands of it because of Cutback that are a result of a previous LABOUR governments actions.

Try cutting the grass properly which houses hidden dangers such as broken glass bottles on which children can cut themselves and dog dirt now hidden because the council refuse to cut back the grass properly
EVERY street?
I thought that was in Ancoats!
You know what thought did ?
[quote][p][bold]Puffin-Billy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MrUpton[/bold] wrote: Kevin McKeon - you have a duty of care to make sure EVERY street in Bolton is safe. That is the councils job, never mind washing your hands of it because of Cutback that are a result of a previous LABOUR governments actions. Try cutting the grass properly which houses hidden dangers such as broken glass bottles on which children can cut themselves and dog dirt now hidden because the council refuse to cut back the grass properly[/p][/quote]EVERY street? I thought that was in Ancoats![/p][/quote]You know what thought did ? MrUpton
  • Score: 0

4:10pm Mon 2 Jun 14

hal pel says...

69% percent of voters think that the back street, situated between Brownlow Road and St Annes Road in Horwich, looks like something out of the third world. I give up!
69% percent of voters think that the back street, situated between Brownlow Road and St Annes Road in Horwich, looks like something out of the third world. I give up! hal pel
  • Score: 9

4:59pm Mon 2 Jun 14

philipwalduck says...

This back street is no worse than many in Bolton
This back street is no worse than many in Bolton philipwalduck
  • Score: 12

5:07pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Wolfie190 says...

Looks nothing like Halliwell to me.
Looks nothing like Halliwell to me. Wolfie190
  • Score: 12

5:22pm Mon 2 Jun 14

the hand says...

It's a sad state of affairs when someone can't spray a few weeds with weed killer and shovel up a bit of soil it probably took him longer to walk to the meeting wait his turn to speak including the time it took to take the photos from every conceivable angle to get the right shades of green just so he could blow of a bit of steam then get himself in the bn what a farce
It's a sad state of affairs when someone can't spray a few weeds with weed killer and shovel up a bit of soil it probably took him longer to walk to the meeting wait his turn to speak including the time it took to take the photos from every conceivable angle to get the right shades of green just so he could blow of a bit of steam then get himself in the bn what a farce the hand
  • Score: 18

6:52pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Ernagy2 says...

the hand wrote:
It's a sad state of affairs when someone can't spray a few weeds with weed killer and shovel up a bit of soil it probably took him longer to walk to the meeting wait his turn to speak including the time it took to take the photos from every conceivable angle to get the right shades of green just so he could blow of a bit of steam then get himself in the bn what a farce
I was thinking on the same lines myself. Why don't the residents get together and spray weedkiller. What happened to 'community' spirit? Why does it necessarily have to be the council sorting this out. It's not like it's a major road - it's a back street.

If the residents got of their backsides they could clear it up and then have a little party, get to know each other etc.
[quote][p][bold]the hand[/bold] wrote: It's a sad state of affairs when someone can't spray a few weeds with weed killer and shovel up a bit of soil it probably took him longer to walk to the meeting wait his turn to speak including the time it took to take the photos from every conceivable angle to get the right shades of green just so he could blow of a bit of steam then get himself in the bn what a farce[/p][/quote]I was thinking on the same lines myself. Why don't the residents get together and spray weedkiller. What happened to 'community' spirit? Why does it necessarily have to be the council sorting this out. It's not like it's a major road - it's a back street. If the residents got of their backsides they could clear it up and then have a little party, get to know each other etc. Ernagy2
  • Score: 17

7:01pm Mon 2 Jun 14

the hand says...

Ernagy2 wrote:
the hand wrote:
It's a sad state of affairs when someone can't spray a few weeds with weed killer and shovel up a bit of soil it probably took him longer to walk to the meeting wait his turn to speak including the time it took to take the photos from every conceivable angle to get the right shades of green just so he could blow of a bit of steam then get himself in the bn what a farce
I was thinking on the same lines myself. Why don't the residents get together and spray weedkiller. What happened to 'community' spirit? Why does it necessarily have to be the council sorting this out. It's not like it's a major road - it's a back street.

If the residents got of their backsides they could clear it up and then have a little party, get to know each other etc.
Man after my own heart but that would be to easy what would he moan about then the bricks in the back street are the wrong shade or the bloody kids who play there now it safe and they don't have to worry about tripping up on a blade of grass
[quote][p][bold]Ernagy2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the hand[/bold] wrote: It's a sad state of affairs when someone can't spray a few weeds with weed killer and shovel up a bit of soil it probably took him longer to walk to the meeting wait his turn to speak including the time it took to take the photos from every conceivable angle to get the right shades of green just so he could blow of a bit of steam then get himself in the bn what a farce[/p][/quote]I was thinking on the same lines myself. Why don't the residents get together and spray weedkiller. What happened to 'community' spirit? Why does it necessarily have to be the council sorting this out. It's not like it's a major road - it's a back street. If the residents got of their backsides they could clear it up and then have a little party, get to know each other etc.[/p][/quote]Man after my own heart but that would be to easy what would he moan about then the bricks in the back street are the wrong shade or the bloody kids who play there now it safe and they don't have to worry about tripping up on a blade of grass the hand
  • Score: 7

7:06pm Mon 2 Jun 14

JustBecause says...

Ernagy2 wrote:
the hand wrote:
It's a sad state of affairs when someone can't spray a few weeds with weed killer and shovel up a bit of soil it probably took him longer to walk to the meeting wait his turn to speak including the time it took to take the photos from every conceivable angle to get the right shades of green just so he could blow of a bit of steam then get himself in the bn what a farce
I was thinking on the same lines myself. Why don't the residents get together and spray weedkiller. What happened to 'community' spirit? Why does it necessarily have to be the council sorting this out. It's not like it's a major road - it's a back street.

If the residents got of their backsides they could clear it up and then have a little party, get to know each other etc.
Plus one, it's always someone else's problem, if everyone in the street did a bit, then they would have about 10 feet to sort.

I used weed killer on our street the other day, 10 mins job done.

As for third world, 69% of people need to go on the Internet and see what the third world looks like, as stated people would happily live in that back street.

It's about time people stopped bloody moaning.
[quote][p][bold]Ernagy2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the hand[/bold] wrote: It's a sad state of affairs when someone can't spray a few weeds with weed killer and shovel up a bit of soil it probably took him longer to walk to the meeting wait his turn to speak including the time it took to take the photos from every conceivable angle to get the right shades of green just so he could blow of a bit of steam then get himself in the bn what a farce[/p][/quote]I was thinking on the same lines myself. Why don't the residents get together and spray weedkiller. What happened to 'community' spirit? Why does it necessarily have to be the council sorting this out. It's not like it's a major road - it's a back street. If the residents got of their backsides they could clear it up and then have a little party, get to know each other etc.[/p][/quote]Plus one, it's always someone else's problem, if everyone in the street did a bit, then they would have about 10 feet to sort. I used weed killer on our street the other day, 10 mins job done. As for third world, 69% of people need to go on the Internet and see what the third world looks like, as stated people would happily live in that back street. It's about time people stopped bloody moaning. JustBecause
  • Score: 7

7:32pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Ernagy2 says...

JustBecause wrote:
Ernagy2 wrote:
the hand wrote:
It's a sad state of affairs when someone can't spray a few weeds with weed killer and shovel up a bit of soil it probably took him longer to walk to the meeting wait his turn to speak including the time it took to take the photos from every conceivable angle to get the right shades of green just so he could blow of a bit of steam then get himself in the bn what a farce
I was thinking on the same lines myself. Why don't the residents get together and spray weedkiller. What happened to 'community' spirit? Why does it necessarily have to be the council sorting this out. It's not like it's a major road - it's a back street.

If the residents got of their backsides they could clear it up and then have a little party, get to know each other etc.
Plus one, it's always someone else's problem, if everyone in the street did a bit, then they would have about 10 feet to sort.

I used weed killer on our street the other day, 10 mins job done.

As for third world, 69% of people need to go on the Internet and see what the third world looks like, as stated people would happily live in that back street.

It's about time people stopped bloody moaning.
Totally agree. I'd rather the council spent money on the town centre than waste money on this.

Next thing that will be brought up is Health and Safety. They'd rather the council worker put their backs out and claim of the council (which we all pay for in the end) then their own.
[quote][p][bold]JustBecause[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ernagy2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the hand[/bold] wrote: It's a sad state of affairs when someone can't spray a few weeds with weed killer and shovel up a bit of soil it probably took him longer to walk to the meeting wait his turn to speak including the time it took to take the photos from every conceivable angle to get the right shades of green just so he could blow of a bit of steam then get himself in the bn what a farce[/p][/quote]I was thinking on the same lines myself. Why don't the residents get together and spray weedkiller. What happened to 'community' spirit? Why does it necessarily have to be the council sorting this out. It's not like it's a major road - it's a back street. If the residents got of their backsides they could clear it up and then have a little party, get to know each other etc.[/p][/quote]Plus one, it's always someone else's problem, if everyone in the street did a bit, then they would have about 10 feet to sort. I used weed killer on our street the other day, 10 mins job done. As for third world, 69% of people need to go on the Internet and see what the third world looks like, as stated people would happily live in that back street. It's about time people stopped bloody moaning.[/p][/quote]Totally agree. I'd rather the council spent money on the town centre than waste money on this. Next thing that will be brought up is Health and Safety. They'd rather the council worker put their backs out and claim of the council (which we all pay for in the end) then their own. Ernagy2
  • Score: 9

9:56pm Mon 2 Jun 14

adatherton says...

Surely the councillor must know if the street is adopted or not. Most back streets aren't.
Surely the councillor must know if the street is adopted or not. Most back streets aren't. adatherton
  • Score: 3

10:07pm Mon 2 Jun 14

mililly says...

Pathetic...state of the country and hes moaning about weeds in the back street..the council do nothjng anymore they dont clean drains barely cut grass empty rubbush every 2wks.....do you really think they are bothered by this..I dont really kniw what we pay council tax for to be honest..your prob best getting some weedkiller and doing it yourself..
Pathetic...state of the country and hes moaning about weeds in the back street..the council do nothjng anymore they dont clean drains barely cut grass empty rubbush every 2wks.....do you really think they are bothered by this..I dont really kniw what we pay council tax for to be honest..your prob best getting some weedkiller and doing it yourself.. mililly
  • Score: 5

10:44pm Mon 2 Jun 14

bungie44 says...

If he thinks that his back street looks third world he wants to come and have a look at ours you can`t see the grass for rubbish the council don`t want to know if you complain and always fall back on the government cuts that other councils seem to have managed to work around. As a person who travels around the county a lot I have to say that Bolton is the biggest dust bin.
If he thinks that his back street looks third world he wants to come and have a look at ours you can`t see the grass for rubbish the council don`t want to know if you complain and always fall back on the government cuts that other councils seem to have managed to work around. As a person who travels around the county a lot I have to say that Bolton is the biggest dust bin. bungie44
  • Score: 1

10:48pm Mon 2 Jun 14

itsnotthatbad says...

All back streets look like this! They do one they'll have to do them all!...
All back streets look like this! They do one they'll have to do them all!... itsnotthatbad
  • Score: 1

11:48pm Mon 2 Jun 14

vicric87 says...

Maybe we should send you all to an actual third world country. There are far more important things that need attending to than back streets.
Maybe we should send you all to an actual third world country. There are far more important things that need attending to than back streets. vicric87
  • Score: 2

8:07am Tue 3 Jun 14

liumin says...

I have returned from China after 3months try to appreciate our so called back streets poverty and real dirty apartment living is a lot in China in the poorer cities I grew up in those back streets now I live in Perth Australia I have very fond memories of my young age in Bolton
I have returned from China after 3months try to appreciate our so called back streets poverty and real dirty apartment living is a lot in China in the poorer cities I grew up in those back streets now I live in Perth Australia I have very fond memories of my young age in Bolton liumin
  • Score: 0

8:35am Tue 3 Jun 14

eddie6149 says...

Not only Horwich, Bolton also has the same problem. Back streets of Halliwell are looking the same. What happened to the annual spray ? Has this gone the same way as grid cleaning ? Seems like we are getting less and less for our money. A quick check shows my council tax has increased over 60% in the last ten years while services have dropped. Seems like all the cash is going in inflated salaries and pension contributions for our leaders? Coincidently these figures are missed off the info delivered with council tax bill, must be another cost saving on the ink. Big we'll done, as for the idiot that says it's nice and green, beyond words. Sack him.
Not only Horwich, Bolton also has the same problem. Back streets of Halliwell are looking the same. What happened to the annual spray ? Has this gone the same way as grid cleaning ? Seems like we are getting less and less for our money. A quick check shows my council tax has increased over 60% in the last ten years while services have dropped. Seems like all the cash is going in inflated salaries and pension contributions for our leaders? Coincidently these figures are missed off the info delivered with council tax bill, must be another cost saving on the ink. Big we'll done, as for the idiot that says it's nice and green, beyond words. Sack him. eddie6149
  • Score: 4

9:02am Tue 3 Jun 14

the hand says...

Ernagy2 wrote:
JustBecause wrote:
Ernagy2 wrote:
the hand wrote:
It's a sad state of affairs when someone can't spray a few weeds with weed killer and shovel up a bit of soil it probably took him longer to walk to the meeting wait his turn to speak including the time it took to take the photos from every conceivable angle to get the right shades of green just so he could blow of a bit of steam then get himself in the bn what a farce
I was thinking on the same lines myself. Why don't the residents get together and spray weedkiller. What happened to 'community' spirit? Why does it necessarily have to be the council sorting this out. It's not like it's a major road - it's a back street.

If the residents got of their backsides they could clear it up and then have a little party, get to know each other etc.
Plus one, it's always someone else's problem, if everyone in the street did a bit, then they would have about 10 feet to sort.

I used weed killer on our street the other day, 10 mins job done.

As for third world, 69% of people need to go on the Internet and see what the third world looks like, as stated people would happily live in that back street.

It's about time people stopped bloody moaning.
Totally agree. I'd rather the council spent money on the town centre than waste money on this.

Next thing that will be brought up is Health and Safety. They'd rather the council worker put their backs out and claim of the council (which we all pay for in the end) then their own.
Bang on my friend bang on here's a thought may cliff jabba the hut Morris andhis ggoonies ( hey you gguyyyys ) could do it for them he could do with losing a few stone
[quote][p][bold]Ernagy2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JustBecause[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ernagy2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the hand[/bold] wrote: It's a sad state of affairs when someone can't spray a few weeds with weed killer and shovel up a bit of soil it probably took him longer to walk to the meeting wait his turn to speak including the time it took to take the photos from every conceivable angle to get the right shades of green just so he could blow of a bit of steam then get himself in the bn what a farce[/p][/quote]I was thinking on the same lines myself. Why don't the residents get together and spray weedkiller. What happened to 'community' spirit? Why does it necessarily have to be the council sorting this out. It's not like it's a major road - it's a back street. If the residents got of their backsides they could clear it up and then have a little party, get to know each other etc.[/p][/quote]Plus one, it's always someone else's problem, if everyone in the street did a bit, then they would have about 10 feet to sort. I used weed killer on our street the other day, 10 mins job done. As for third world, 69% of people need to go on the Internet and see what the third world looks like, as stated people would happily live in that back street. It's about time people stopped bloody moaning.[/p][/quote]Totally agree. I'd rather the council spent money on the town centre than waste money on this. Next thing that will be brought up is Health and Safety. They'd rather the council worker put their backs out and claim of the council (which we all pay for in the end) then their own.[/p][/quote]Bang on my friend bang on here's a thought may cliff jabba the hut Morris andhis ggoonies ( hey you gguyyyys ) could do it for them he could do with losing a few stone the hand
  • Score: 0

10:52am Tue 3 Jun 14

Sexybum123 says...

He wants to go and look at the front of fred dibnahs house it won bolton in bloom a few years ago now it's a utter disgrace and that's on the main road and where folk come to look at the home of fred the town is a **** tip
He wants to go and look at the front of fred dibnahs house it won bolton in bloom a few years ago now it's a utter disgrace and that's on the main road and where folk come to look at the home of fred the town is a **** tip Sexybum123
  • Score: 3

11:09am Tue 3 Jun 14

atlas123 says...

According to

maps.bolton.gov.uk

This back street is adopted.


HOWEVER i would much rather the council spend the money repairing the roads that 1000s of taxpayers use everyday, rather than tidying up this greenery.

Its a none issue huffed and puffed about by someone with a bee in their bonnet. It would cost 10s of thousands to tarmac this road at what cost to insects, nature and wildlife. The residents would then complain about the cars speeding up the street.

Too much of the world is tarmac or concreted over, giving us problems woth flash flooding and surface waterrun off.

Looks fine to me, move on worry about something else. Stop obsessing about everything having to look tidy.

Gone are the days when women scrubbed their door steps for the benefit of the neighbors, worried about what people would think about their washing on the line and fretted about such petty insignificant things.
According to maps.bolton.gov.uk This back street is adopted. HOWEVER i would much rather the council spend the money repairing the roads that 1000s of taxpayers use everyday, rather than tidying up this greenery. Its a none issue huffed and puffed about by someone with a bee in their bonnet. It would cost 10s of thousands to tarmac this road at what cost to insects, nature and wildlife. The residents would then complain about the cars speeding up the street. Too much of the world is tarmac or concreted over, giving us problems woth flash flooding and surface waterrun off. Looks fine to me, move on worry about something else. Stop obsessing about everything having to look tidy. Gone are the days when women scrubbed their door steps for the benefit of the neighbors, worried about what people would think about their washing on the line and fretted about such petty insignificant things. atlas123
  • Score: 4

6:56pm Tue 3 Jun 14

lancashiregirl says...

For the people who voted that the back street was nice and green, all I can say I would love to see the state of your houses
For the people who voted that the back street was nice and green, all I can say I would love to see the state of your houses lancashiregirl
  • Score: 3

7:00pm Tue 3 Jun 14

lancashiregirl says...

I agree with some of the comments, yes people use to look after their front and back, use to donkey stone the step, you never see people cleaning outside now
I agree with some of the comments, yes people use to look after their front and back, use to donkey stone the step, you never see people cleaning outside now lancashiregirl
  • Score: 2

7:28pm Tue 3 Jun 14

CatherineBolton says...

Obviously the photos above are not those that were discussed in the meeting because these have been taken presumably by the Bolton News with Mr Halliwell in. Please can we see the original photograph(s) so that we may judge for ourselves rather than being spoonfed a skewed story?

Also I feel the comments attributed to local busybody Mr Halliwell likening a Horwich backstreet to the Third World are highly inappropriate, insensitive and offensive to the millions of people unfortunate enough to be living in true poverty, unable even to access clean water to give to their children. He is clearly uneducated and ignorant of the real world.

All the best,
Catherine
Obviously the photos above are not those that were discussed in the meeting because these have been taken presumably by the Bolton News with Mr Halliwell in. Please can we see the original photograph(s) so that we may judge for ourselves rather than being spoonfed a skewed story? Also I feel the comments attributed to local busybody Mr Halliwell likening a Horwich backstreet to the Third World are highly inappropriate, insensitive and offensive to the millions of people unfortunate enough to be living in true poverty, unable even to access clean water to give to their children. He is clearly uneducated and ignorant of the real world. All the best, Catherine CatherineBolton
  • Score: 3

8:47am Wed 4 Jun 14

Ernagy2 says...

lancashiregirl wrote:
I agree with some of the comments, yes people use to look after their front and back, use to donkey stone the step, you never see people cleaning outside now
It really isn't that hard. Buy a weed killer from your local DIY shop spray on and wait for weed to die.Get on with life, there are far worse things to worry about.
[quote][p][bold]lancashiregirl[/bold] wrote: I agree with some of the comments, yes people use to look after their front and back, use to donkey stone the step, you never see people cleaning outside now[/p][/quote]It really isn't that hard. Buy a weed killer from your local DIY shop spray on and wait for weed to die.Get on with life, there are far worse things to worry about. Ernagy2
  • Score: 2

4:21pm Wed 4 Jun 14

Brumas says...

atlas123 says
“Gone are the days when women scrubbed their door steps for the benefit of the neighbours, worried about what people would think about their washing on the line and fretted about such petty insignificant things.”

That in a nutshell is the problem, no sense of community, because “Time” is the god, no Time to look after the back street, too busy watching Coronation Street. No time to talk to the neighbours, too busy watching Neighbours, or even commenting on stories in the BN. In this day and age when we have every labour saving device possible, compared to perhaps our Great Grandparents, who would have maintained/cleaned their back-front streets without thinking about it. For their own self-esteem, or pride, all after a real “Long Hard Day’s Work”. But no, all these trappings of modern day life have made lots of people Lazy, either that or they just do not care, whatever, they are the reasons lots of things are in the state they are.
And before anybody asks, yes, although I am in my seventies I clean and weed the gutters where I live.
atlas123 says “Gone are the days when women scrubbed their door steps for the benefit of the neighbours, worried about what people would think about their washing on the line and fretted about such petty insignificant things.” That in a nutshell is the problem, no sense of community, because “Time” is the god, no Time to look after the back street, too busy watching Coronation Street. No time to talk to the neighbours, too busy watching Neighbours, or even commenting on stories in the BN. In this day and age when we have every labour saving device possible, compared to perhaps our Great Grandparents, who would have maintained/cleaned their back-front streets without thinking about it. For their own self-esteem, or pride, all after a real “Long Hard Day’s Work”. But no, all these trappings of modern day life have made lots of people Lazy, either that or they just do not care, whatever, they are the reasons lots of things are in the state they are. And before anybody asks, yes, although I am in my seventies I clean and weed the gutters where I live. Brumas
  • Score: 4

11:02pm Wed 4 Jun 14

Comment777 says...

This councillor should ask someone else to choose his tie...clashes badly with his orange hair
This councillor should ask someone else to choose his tie...clashes badly with his orange hair Comment777
  • Score: 0

10:36pm Thu 5 Jun 14

SupeRed09 says...

Looks like a backstreet to me. Having said that this councillors seems just as idiotic as the Mr. Halliwell
Looks like a backstreet to me. Having said that this councillors seems just as idiotic as the Mr. Halliwell SupeRed09
  • Score: 0

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