Just one train an hour from Horwich and Lostock when six-week electrification works start

The Bolton News: Trains to Bolton (pictured) from Horwich and Lostock will be reduced to just one service every hour Trains to Bolton (pictured) from Horwich and Lostock will be reduced to just one service every hour

COMMUTERS are being warned of major disruption to train services this summer as operators press ahead with plans for electrification.

Passengers at Horwich Parkway, Lostock and Blackrod will only get one train an hour instead of the usual three while work is carried out upgrading a tunnel in Chorley for six weeks from July 19 until August 31.

During the engineering works there will be only one Northern Rail train an hour between Chorley and Bolton, continuing to Manchester Victoria, from 7am and 7pm, which rail bosses say they will increase from two carriages to four, with additional buses laid on.

Cllr David Chadwick said: “The situation is not ideal, but the problem we have got is that the rail infrastructure on that line is not of the 21st century.

“Electrification is going to bring it up to date, but it is going to be difficult for regular users, and during that six to seven weeks there is going to be a lot of disruption.”

On evenings and weekends, no trains will call between Bolton and Preston, affecting Lostock, Horwich Parkway, Blackrod, Adlington, Chorley, Buckshaw Parkway and Leyland.

Instead there will be replacement buses, which train bosses say will match the capacity of carriages.

Commuter Kat Dibbits drives to Lostock every day from her home in Horwich so she can catch the train to Manchester.

The 31-year-old, who works at Manchester Metropolitan University, said the disruption would cause a lot of problems for her getting to work.

She said: “I’m going to have to drive to Westhoughton in the mornings during this six weeks.

“It’s all well and good putting on replacement buses, but the roads are already congested so it’s pretty awful.

“The communication has been poor — we’ve known it was happening, but the staff at the train station, who are normally very good, don’t seem to know anything. It’s like they haven’t been told.”

Rail users who get on at Horwich Parkway will face more problems, as all First Transpennine Express services travelling from Manchester and Bolton to Lancashire and Cumbria will be diverted via Wigan, no longer stopping at the station any day of the week.

A spokesman for Northern Rail and First Transpennine Express said: “The improvement works will bring significant customer benefits when they are fully completed.

“We do however recognise that customer journeys between Preston, Chorley and Manchester will be considerably disrupted over the summer.

“Replacement buses will be used to supplement the service and rail connections to Manchester Piccadilly will be available at Bolton.”

Rail operators say the changes will mean engineers can access the Chorley tunnel, where extensive works are required to lower the track, so that there is enough space to install new overhead power lines necessary for electric trains to run.

Once electrification is complete in December, 2016, providers are promising quicker journeys and more seats on many services.

HOW THE ELECTRIFICATION WORKS WILL AFFECT YOU

CURRENTLY there are six services from Horwich Parkway to Bolton in the morning — 7.01am (TPE), 7.16am (Northern), 7.25am (TPE), 7.46am (Northern), 8.16am (Northern) 08.46am (Northern).

Between July 19 and August 31, on weekdays there will be only one train an hour from Horwich Parkway to Bolton, operated by Northern Rail, with rail replacement buses running instead.
The time of this train will be announced with the finalised timetable.

Services from Bolton to Manchester Victoria and Manchester Piccadilly remain unchanged.

It is estimated more than 500,000 passenger journeys are made to and from Horwich Parkway every year, compared with almost 250,000 trips at Lostock.

For more information contact www.nationalrail.co.uk or call 08457 484950.

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10:47am Fri 13 Jun 14

questionairre says...

Commuter Kat Dibbits said;
“The communication has been poor — we’ve known it was happening, but the staff at the train station, who are normally very good, don’t seem to know anything. It’s like they haven’t been told.”

Well you know now and really; how much notice do you need as you now have the full details as of the 13/06 and the reduced service starts on the 19/07.
Its not really planning for a world trip is it.
Get on with it!
Commuter Kat Dibbits said; “The communication has been poor — we’ve known it was happening, but the staff at the train station, who are normally very good, don’t seem to know anything. It’s like they haven’t been told.” Well you know now and really; how much notice do you need as you now have the full details as of the 13/06 and the reduced service starts on the 19/07. Its not really planning for a world trip is it. Get on with it! questionairre
  • Score: 12

11:15am Fri 13 Jun 14

127001 says...

It's almost as comical as the fiasco in France with the trains that won't fit the stations!

Sometime I wonder, after a few billion years of evolution if we have actually learned anything!

What next? Thomas the Tank Engine approaching platform 4?
It's almost as comical as the fiasco in France with the trains that won't fit the stations! Sometime I wonder, after a few billion years of evolution if we have actually learned anything! What next? Thomas the Tank Engine approaching platform 4? 127001
  • Score: -8

11:34am Fri 13 Jun 14

Menhed says...

questionairre wrote:
Commuter Kat Dibbits said;
“The communication has been poor — we’ve known it was happening, but the staff at the train station, who are normally very good, don’t seem to know anything. It’s like they haven’t been told.”

Well you know now and really; how much notice do you need as you now have the full details as of the 13/06 and the reduced service starts on the 19/07.
Its not really planning for a world trip is it.
Get on with it!
questionairre, what a stupid comment, you're obviously not a commuter!

What's the times of the one train an hour?

Might be useful if they did have 'full details' given it's less than a week to go and travellers who pay a few hundred pounds for season tickets are not going to get the service they've paid for.
[quote][p][bold]questionairre[/bold] wrote: Commuter Kat Dibbits said; “The communication has been poor — we’ve known it was happening, but the staff at the train station, who are normally very good, don’t seem to know anything. It’s like they haven’t been told.” Well you know now and really; how much notice do you need as you now have the full details as of the 13/06 and the reduced service starts on the 19/07. Its not really planning for a world trip is it. Get on with it![/p][/quote]questionairre, what a stupid comment, you're obviously not a commuter! What's the times of the one train an hour? Might be useful if they did have 'full details' given it's less than a week to go and travellers who pay a few hundred pounds for season tickets are not going to get the service they've paid for. Menhed
  • Score: 3

11:52am Fri 13 Jun 14

questionairre says...

Stupid is what stupid does!
Read the words stupid.

Between July 19 and August 31, on weekdays there will be only one train an hour from Horwich Parkway to Bolton, operated by Northern Rail, with rail replacement buses running instead.
The time of this train will be announced with the finalised timetable.

Now read your words and work it out paying particular attention to the start of the works as mentioned above.

Might be useful if they did have 'full details' given it's less than a week to go and travellers who pay a few hundred pounds for season tickets are not going to get the service they've paid for.

Got it Stupid.
Stupid is what stupid does! Read the words stupid. Between July 19 and August 31, on weekdays there will be only one train an hour from Horwich Parkway to Bolton, operated by Northern Rail, with rail replacement buses running instead. The time of this train will be announced with the finalised timetable. Now read your words and work it out paying particular attention to the start of the works as mentioned above. Might be useful if they did have 'full details' given it's less than a week to go and travellers who pay a few hundred pounds for season tickets are not going to get the service they've paid for. Got it Stupid. questionairre
  • Score: 3

12:42pm Fri 13 Jun 14

Ernagy2 says...

It might be worth putting rail replacement buses to Westhoughton and Atherton, rather than taking them into Manchester or even Bolton. The buses will take longer into Manchester and will clogg up Bolton Town Centre.

Of course if, they opened the other platform at Lostock to pick up the Westhoughton train, it would have eased the problem enormously. Still who am I to complain?
It might be worth putting rail replacement buses to Westhoughton and Atherton, rather than taking them into Manchester or even Bolton. The buses will take longer into Manchester and will clogg up Bolton Town Centre. Of course if, they opened the other platform at Lostock to pick up the Westhoughton train, it would have eased the problem enormously. Still who am I to complain? Ernagy2
  • Score: 6

12:52pm Fri 13 Jun 14

MarkAllRead says...

Ernagy2 wrote:
It might be worth putting rail replacement buses to Westhoughton and Atherton, rather than taking them into Manchester or even Bolton. The buses will take longer into Manchester and will clogg up Bolton Town Centre.

Of course if, they opened the other platform at Lostock to pick up the Westhoughton train, it would have eased the problem enormously. Still who am I to complain?
I'll never understand why the platform at Lostock isn't at the other end of the car park in order to be served by both lines. Bizarre. Anyone know?
[quote][p][bold]Ernagy2[/bold] wrote: It might be worth putting rail replacement buses to Westhoughton and Atherton, rather than taking them into Manchester or even Bolton. The buses will take longer into Manchester and will clogg up Bolton Town Centre. Of course if, they opened the other platform at Lostock to pick up the Westhoughton train, it would have eased the problem enormously. Still who am I to complain?[/p][/quote]I'll never understand why the platform at Lostock isn't at the other end of the car park in order to be served by both lines. Bizarre. Anyone know? MarkAllRead
  • Score: 7

2:10pm Fri 13 Jun 14

cassabella says...

Not good for Westhoughton as there are only 2 trains an hour going to bolton and manchester, the 8.02 is standing only by time it gets to westhoughton, the 8.32 is usually ok if there are three carriages on and the 9.02 is only two carriages and busy and when the 8.32 hasnt turned up the 9.02 is rammed, anything before 8.02 I cant speak on.

Lets hope the work stays to schedule!!!!1
Not good for Westhoughton as there are only 2 trains an hour going to bolton and manchester, the 8.02 is standing only by time it gets to westhoughton, the 8.32 is usually ok if there are three carriages on and the 9.02 is only two carriages and busy and when the 8.32 hasnt turned up the 9.02 is rammed, anything before 8.02 I cant speak on. Lets hope the work stays to schedule!!!!1 cassabella
  • Score: 2

2:29pm Fri 13 Jun 14

sparklel21 says...

I live in Bromley Cross and work in Lancaster and the trains used to be 3 an hour sometimes 4. I Paid £266.00 per month and the time table changed and the disruptions were phenomenal. It started taking me 2-3 hours to make the commute which I paid for which originally was 1.15 from leaving work to getting in the house. I am lucky enough to have bought a cheap run around because I was sick of the cancellations on top of the time table change. Once my train didn't arrive because the driver did turn up! I am glad that where I work we have contingency plans.

Bolton used to be electrical, they just cant stop meddling! To have this type of disruption until 2016 is simply not good enough. The replacement bus service is only there when the few trains they put on are cancelled, and then its touch and go if the driver is drunk or not! http://www.mancheste
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I live in Bromley Cross and work in Lancaster and the trains used to be 3 an hour sometimes 4. I Paid £266.00 per month and the time table changed and the disruptions were phenomenal. It started taking me 2-3 hours to make the commute which I paid for which originally was 1.15 from leaving work to getting in the house. I am lucky enough to have bought a cheap run around because I was sick of the cancellations on top of the time table change. Once my train didn't arrive because the driver did turn up! I am glad that where I work we have contingency plans. Bolton used to be electrical, they just cant stop meddling! To have this type of disruption until 2016 is simply not good enough. The replacement bus service is only there when the few trains they put on are cancelled, and then its touch and go if the driver is drunk or not! http://www.mancheste reveningnews.co.uk/n ews/greater-manchest er-news/felicity-hal l-drunk-coach-driver -7067677 sparklel21
  • Score: -1

3:53pm Fri 13 Jun 14

smithillschap says...

And worse to come when they move on to the Farnworth tunnel.
And worse to come when they move on to the Farnworth tunnel. smithillschap
  • Score: 4

7:04am Sat 14 Jun 14

oftbewildered2 says...

cassabella wrote:
Not good for Westhoughton as there are only 2 trains an hour going to bolton and manchester, the 8.02 is standing only by time it gets to westhoughton, the 8.32 is usually ok if there are three carriages on and the 9.02 is only two carriages and busy and when the 8.32 hasnt turned up the 9.02 is rammed, anything before 8.02 I cant speak on.

Lets hope the work stays to schedule!!!!1
... and the station car park will soon get full and where will people park then? I am lucky in that I no longer have to commute, but I decided to drive to the station once for a train into Manchester and after 09.30 am there were only two available parking spaces then.
[quote][p][bold]cassabella[/bold] wrote: Not good for Westhoughton as there are only 2 trains an hour going to bolton and manchester, the 8.02 is standing only by time it gets to westhoughton, the 8.32 is usually ok if there are three carriages on and the 9.02 is only two carriages and busy and when the 8.32 hasnt turned up the 9.02 is rammed, anything before 8.02 I cant speak on. Lets hope the work stays to schedule!!!!1[/p][/quote]... and the station car park will soon get full and where will people park then? I am lucky in that I no longer have to commute, but I decided to drive to the station once for a train into Manchester and after 09.30 am there were only two available parking spaces then. oftbewildered2
  • Score: 2

3:57pm Sat 14 Jun 14

wsw69 says...

Shut up whinging and get on with it. The rail company will be dammed if they do and dammed if they don't. It's called maintenance and upgrading, just like may things in life need to be maintained and repaired.

This is the worst country in the world for any excuse whatsoever to have a good old moan.

People moan like fr1g about potholes and bad roads, then they whinge like fr1g when they are being repaired.

All self centred selfish idiots.

Just STFU
Shut up whinging and get on with it. The rail company will be dammed if they do and dammed if they don't. It's called maintenance and upgrading, just like may things in life need to be maintained and repaired. This is the worst country in the world for any excuse whatsoever to have a good old moan. People moan like fr1g about potholes and bad roads, then they whinge like fr1g when they are being repaired. All self centred selfish idiots. Just STFU wsw69
  • Score: 5

3:14pm Sun 15 Jun 14

Dusty87 says...

questionairre wrote:
Stupid is what stupid does!
Read the words stupid.

Between July 19 and August 31, on weekdays there will be only one train an hour from Horwich Parkway to Bolton, operated by Northern Rail, with rail replacement buses running instead.
The time of this train will be announced with the finalised timetable.

Now read your words and work it out paying particular attention to the start of the works as mentioned above.

Might be useful if they did have 'full details' given it's less than a week to go and travellers who pay a few hundred pounds for season tickets are not going to get the service they've paid for.

Got it Stupid.
Calling someone stupid when discussing something you don't really know much about yourself?..If you ever find yourself commuting from horwich or bolton during rush hour then you would understand how packed these trains are. Yes they are putting rail replacement buses on, however it will take a lot longer to get to manchester for people to get to work, meaning most people will probably choose to wait for this 1 train per hour. A lot of people pay nearly a thousand pound a year to get to work by train and the lack of communication by northern and TP staff is poor. Unless this article concerns you then don't comment.
[quote][p][bold]questionairre[/bold] wrote: Stupid is what stupid does! Read the words stupid. Between July 19 and August 31, on weekdays there will be only one train an hour from Horwich Parkway to Bolton, operated by Northern Rail, with rail replacement buses running instead. The time of this train will be announced with the finalised timetable. Now read your words and work it out paying particular attention to the start of the works as mentioned above. Might be useful if they did have 'full details' given it's less than a week to go and travellers who pay a few hundred pounds for season tickets are not going to get the service they've paid for. Got it Stupid.[/p][/quote]Calling someone stupid when discussing something you don't really know much about yourself?..If you ever find yourself commuting from horwich or bolton during rush hour then you would understand how packed these trains are. Yes they are putting rail replacement buses on, however it will take a lot longer to get to manchester for people to get to work, meaning most people will probably choose to wait for this 1 train per hour. A lot of people pay nearly a thousand pound a year to get to work by train and the lack of communication by northern and TP staff is poor. Unless this article concerns you then don't comment. Dusty87
  • Score: 1

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