Angry protesters shout abuse as they storm out of Astley Bridge mosque planning meeting

The Bolton News: Angry protesters shout abuse at councillors before storming out of the meeting. Angry protesters shout abuse at councillors before storming out of the meeting.

ANGRY protesters had to be escorted from a planning meeting by security staff as it descended into chaos after plans for a mosque were approved.

Councillors sitting on the planning committee had to leave the room while campaigners against the application were led out.

Protesters storm out of the planning meeting. Audio edited for language.

Protesters advanced angrily on committee members and shouted abuse, while one person was seen to knock over a chair as they stormed out of the meeting.

One protester also appeared to throw money at the councillors before the meeting was temporarily halted and order restored.

Plans for the mosque, submitted by Taiyabah Islamic Centre, which will be built on land just off Canning Street, near Blackburn Road, were approved by committee members by 13 votes to 6.

The application, which includes provision for the mosque, complete with a dome, minaret tower and 19 classrooms, had prompted protests by objectors in the lead-up to the meeting.

They argued the building would create traffic issues in Blackburn Road. They also questioned the need for another mosque in Bolton.

Before proceedings began, officers informed members that the council had received petitions including one of 4,867 signatures against the plans and one with 3,308 in favour.


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The committee, which was sitting in front of about 200 people in the town hall’s Festival Hall, heard from those both for and against the plans.

Objector Bryn Morgan described it as “too large and too ostentatious”.

He added: “This building will be an eyesore and is completely out of character with the local buildings.

“This will make the area look more like Istanbul than Bolton — I urge the committee to consider the points and opinions of local people.”

Speaking in favour of the plans, Crompton councillor Sufrana Bashir-Ismail insisted the application is not for an additional building but to replace the mosque currently on the site.

She added: “The current users of the mosque will be the same users as they are now — there is not going to be an increase in the congregation and the majority of users walk to the mosque.

“The individual objectors don’t seem to understand what a community facility is about.”

During the debate, several committee members registered their concerns about potential traffic and parking issues.

Newly elected UKIP councillor Paul Richardson said: “We have been told 55 per cent of people will walk to the mosque so we can reasonably assume the other 45 per cent will drive.”

He called for a more detailed traffic study.

Cllr John Walsh asked for any decision to be deferred.

He added: “Blackburn Road is already one of the most over-trafficked roads in Bolton and this could exacerbate existing problems.

“We shouldn’t be considering it in its current form, we should defer and properly examine the existing and potential traffic problems.”

But Cllr Nick Peel said: “I would side with what Cllr Walsh said if this was for an additional facility — but it’s not, it is replacing an existing facility and covering the same demand as the old one.

“I think we can all agree this building will be distinctive — it will stand out and be a landmark.

“I don’t think it is the responsibility of one particular tenant to address traffic problems in the area.”

There was also a heated exchange outside the town hall between protesters both for and against the mosque but there is not believed to have been any violence.

In a statement, those behind the mosque said they were “extremely happy” with the decision.

The statement added: “It is important for people to learn and understand about how mosques function as well as how the diverse communities in Bolton live, work and worship.”

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7:45pm Thu 3 Jul 14

jus' visitin says...

This was a foregone conclusion.
This was a foregone conclusion. jus' visitin
  • Score: 90

7:48pm Thu 3 Jul 14

itsnotthatbad says...

Yes we know it's replacing the old building..... WITH A MUCH BIGGER ONE... councillors are right donuts! Unless they install better contraflow traffic lights and an entrance separate to the exit it will be gridlock. It WILL be out of place. But where do the councillors live?... Will this affect them?.... Not likely! They should put a speed camera outside too! Stop a reenactment of St Helens Rd happening again!
Yes we know it's replacing the old building..... WITH A MUCH BIGGER ONE... councillors are right donuts! Unless they install better contraflow traffic lights and an entrance separate to the exit it will be gridlock. It WILL be out of place. But where do the councillors live?... Will this affect them?.... Not likely! They should put a speed camera outside too! Stop a reenactment of St Helens Rd happening again! itsnotthatbad
  • Score: 131

7:59pm Thu 3 Jul 14

ChristPMossie says...

I see that kid with with the red Jacket shouting NATIONAL FRONT is national front racist Tom Nelson from Seaforth Road Astley Bridge who is already facing charges for his racism and violent behaviour.

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I see that kid with with the red Jacket shouting NATIONAL FRONT is national front racist Tom Nelson from Seaforth Road Astley Bridge who is already facing charges for his racism and violent behaviour. http://www.thebolton news.co.uk/news/crim e/11029227.Bolton_Cr imewatch_suspect_cha rged_after_EDL_prote st_in_Birmingham/?re f=nt ChristPMossie
  • Score: -49

8:07pm Thu 3 Jul 14

boltonnut says...

Fixed.
Fixed. boltonnut
  • Score: 121

8:31pm Thu 3 Jul 14

Dobbo1973 says...

It's a travesty point one they say its only replacing the old building but it will hold 300 more people. Point two I read that somebody got there extension turned down for being to imposing. I suppose towers and domes don't come into that bracket why can't the new building just blend in with everything else is there really a need for domes and towers as the existing building doesn't have them so I presume it's not important for the religious aspect maybe it's for the islamification of Bolton I think our town is being sold down the river and these so called councillors aren't thinking about the town and what it will be like in another 10/20 years. I'm already thinking of leaving its a joke
It's a travesty point one they say its only replacing the old building but it will hold 300 more people. Point two I read that somebody got there extension turned down for being to imposing. I suppose towers and domes don't come into that bracket why can't the new building just blend in with everything else is there really a need for domes and towers as the existing building doesn't have them so I presume it's not important for the religious aspect maybe it's for the islamification of Bolton I think our town is being sold down the river and these so called councillors aren't thinking about the town and what it will be like in another 10/20 years. I'm already thinking of leaving its a joke Dobbo1973
  • Score: 194

8:37pm Thu 3 Jul 14

Beyond News Forum says...

4,867 signatures against the plans and one with 3,308 in favour. How on Earth does that work in favour of the community?

I sense a huge amount of public anger descending on this town, and not just because of this Mosque. Sh!t is going to kick off big time, it is only a matter of time.
4,867 signatures against the plans and one with 3,308 in favour. How on Earth does that work in favour of the community? I sense a huge amount of public anger descending on this town, and not just because of this Mosque. Sh!t is going to kick off big time, it is only a matter of time. Beyond News Forum
  • Score: 291

8:38pm Thu 3 Jul 14

Beyond News Forum says...

Dobbo1973 wrote:
It's a travesty point one they say its only replacing the old building but it will hold 300 more people. Point two I read that somebody got there extension turned down for being to imposing. I suppose towers and domes don't come into that bracket why can't the new building just blend in with everything else is there really a need for domes and towers as the existing building doesn't have them so I presume it's not important for the religious aspect maybe it's for the islamification of Bolton I think our town is being sold down the river and these so called councillors aren't thinking about the town and what it will be like in another 10/20 years. I'm already thinking of leaving its a joke
I predict a riot.
[quote][p][bold]Dobbo1973[/bold] wrote: It's a travesty point one they say its only replacing the old building but it will hold 300 more people. Point two I read that somebody got there extension turned down for being to imposing. I suppose towers and domes don't come into that bracket why can't the new building just blend in with everything else is there really a need for domes and towers as the existing building doesn't have them so I presume it's not important for the religious aspect maybe it's for the islamification of Bolton I think our town is being sold down the river and these so called councillors aren't thinking about the town and what it will be like in another 10/20 years. I'm already thinking of leaving its a joke[/p][/quote]I predict a riot. Beyond News Forum
  • Score: 133

8:45pm Thu 3 Jul 14

Beyond News Forum says...

Quoting from the live meeting page:

"4:55pm
204 Manchester Road, Westhoughton extension up now

4:55pm
Recommended for refusal

4:57pm
Described as too imposing. It's refused."

You cannot make this sh!t up...
Quoting from the live meeting page: "4:55pm 204 Manchester Road, Westhoughton extension up now 4:55pm Recommended for refusal 4:57pm Described as too imposing. It's refused." You cannot make this sh!t up... Beyond News Forum
  • Score: 105

8:46pm Thu 3 Jul 14

did-i-just-say-that says...

What a disgrace! Absolute travesty! And I'm not talking about the mosque!

Just look at that knuckle dragging chav with his Stone Island hoodie kicking chairs over because he didn't get his way!

I hope this video footage leads to a prosecution under a public order laws!
What a disgrace! Absolute travesty! And I'm not talking about the mosque! Just look at that knuckle dragging chav with his Stone Island hoodie kicking chairs over because he didn't get his way! I hope this video footage leads to a prosecution under a public order laws! did-i-just-say-that
  • Score: -124

9:12pm Thu 3 Jul 14

allan111111 says...

It was always going to be approved despite the ill feeling from the English community.....We no longer live in a democracy
It was always going to be approved despite the ill feeling from the English community.....We no longer live in a democracy allan111111
  • Score: 154

9:13pm Thu 3 Jul 14

timbertwo68 says...

WHAT A SURPRISE, what are the chances of a small 24 hour off license being given permission to open with more than enough parking spaces and NOT causing traffic problems or making the town look like an eyesore!!!!!
WHAT A SURPRISE, what are the chances of a small 24 hour off license being given permission to open with more than enough parking spaces and NOT causing traffic problems or making the town look like an eyesore!!!!! timbertwo68
  • Score: 57

9:29pm Thu 3 Jul 14

converse says...

What country is this again????? Anything but british
What country is this again????? Anything but british converse
  • Score: 126

9:37pm Thu 3 Jul 14

cranks says...

Turkeys voting for christmas or chickens voting for ramadam that is the choice you have when your christian and live in this town.....give it up and put the town hall brigade to the sword......
Turkeys voting for christmas or chickens voting for ramadam that is the choice you have when your christian and live in this town.....give it up and put the town hall brigade to the sword...... cranks
  • Score: 50

9:37pm Thu 3 Jul 14

TheOneTrueWord says...

We all know this mosque was going to get passed, there could have been 10,000 signatures against it and it still would have got planning permission from Bolton Council.

I do not condone the behaviour of the idiots in the video, these kinds of people are just thugs who think the only answer is shouting, swearing and trying to show how big they are!

Bolton is supposed to be developing as a town, but it is getting worse, I urge anyone who can depart do so now for pastures new, because that is certainly what I am considering doing over the next 12 months.

An old pub on Holmeswood Road, Great Lever is now a Mosque called ‘Masjid-e-Taqwa’ on Friday prayers the chaos and traffic around Holmeswood Road / Lever Edge Lane is horrendous, any emergency services would not stand a chance to get down Holmeswood Road, and this is despite the Mosque having a large car park. The same use to happen at ‘Makka Mosque’ on Grecian Crescent on Friday afternoon, people using the Mosque would park anywhere without a care in the world for residents that were living in the area. No doubt this will happen with the new Mosque on Blackburn Road.

Could someone tell me why Great Lever needs FIVE MOSQUES within a quarter of a mile radius! And this is not including many of the others in Great Lever or Deane & Derby.

We have…

Masjid-e-Taqwa - Holmeswood Road
Aleef Mosque - 8 Higher Swan Lane, Bolton, BL3 3EQ
Darul Quran Mosque - 458 Bridgeman Street, Bolton, BL3 6TJ
Makka Mosque - Grecian Crescent, Bolton, BL3 6QU
Zakariyya Mosque - Peace Street, Bolton, BL3 5LJ

Surely Bolton has enough places for Muslims to worship, without adding more to the town.

It’s purely disgraceful, and I am no longer proud to be associated with this town.
We all know this mosque was going to get passed, there could have been 10,000 signatures against it and it still would have got planning permission from Bolton Council. I do not condone the behaviour of the idiots in the video, these kinds of people are just thugs who think the only answer is shouting, swearing and trying to show how big they are! Bolton is supposed to be developing as a town, but it is getting worse, I urge anyone who can depart do so now for pastures new, because that is certainly what I am considering doing over the next 12 months. An old pub on Holmeswood Road, Great Lever is now a Mosque called ‘Masjid-e-Taqwa’ on Friday prayers the chaos and traffic around Holmeswood Road / Lever Edge Lane is horrendous, any emergency services would not stand a chance to get down Holmeswood Road, and this is despite the Mosque having a large car park. The same use to happen at ‘Makka Mosque’ on Grecian Crescent on Friday afternoon, people using the Mosque would park anywhere without a care in the world for residents that were living in the area. No doubt this will happen with the new Mosque on Blackburn Road. Could someone tell me why Great Lever needs FIVE MOSQUES within a quarter of a mile radius! And this is not including many of the others in Great Lever or Deane & Derby. We have… Masjid-e-Taqwa - Holmeswood Road Aleef Mosque - 8 Higher Swan Lane, Bolton, BL3 3EQ Darul Quran Mosque - 458 Bridgeman Street, Bolton, BL3 6TJ Makka Mosque - Grecian Crescent, Bolton, BL3 6QU Zakariyya Mosque - Peace Street, Bolton, BL3 5LJ Surely Bolton has enough places for Muslims to worship, without adding more to the town. It’s purely disgraceful, and I am no longer proud to be associated with this town. TheOneTrueWord
  • Score: 200

9:55pm Thu 3 Jul 14

catsden says...

The Council will not listen they just do what they want, with no consideration of the residents of Bolton who have lived here all their lives, I will never vote again, they are a right shower a complete waste of time. They just do hat they want. Like the Market Hall, Get rid of helot a child go do better. wouldn't pay them with washers, they get money for old rope
The Council will not listen they just do what they want, with no consideration of the residents of Bolton who have lived here all their lives, I will never vote again, they are a right shower a complete waste of time. They just do hat they want. Like the Market Hall, Get rid of helot a child go do better. wouldn't pay them with washers, they get money for old rope catsden
  • Score: 57

9:58pm Thu 3 Jul 14

Mick England says...

did-i-just-say-that wrote:
What a disgrace! Absolute travesty! And I'm not talking about the mosque!

Just look at that knuckle dragging chav with his Stone Island hoodie kicking chairs over because he didn't get his way!

I hope this video footage leads to a prosecution under a public order laws!
Ha did I just say that watches this and is so abhorred by kicking a chair over, little red buses and planes full of passengers is a much more major concern to me.
[quote][p][bold]did-i-just-say-that[/bold] wrote: What a disgrace! Absolute travesty! And I'm not talking about the mosque! Just look at that knuckle dragging chav with his Stone Island hoodie kicking chairs over because he didn't get his way! I hope this video footage leads to a prosecution under a public order laws![/p][/quote]Ha did I just say that watches this and is so abhorred by kicking a chair over, little red buses and planes full of passengers is a much more major concern to me. Mick England
  • Score: 39

10:03pm Thu 3 Jul 14

Ive Cooper says...

I have always known the labour party is one of the most evil organisations ever they are as bad as the Nazi Party . Who were determined to ethnically cleanse the Nation , except the labour party wish to do it to the Indigenous peoples. Scum
I have always known the labour party is one of the most evil organisations ever they are as bad as the Nazi Party . Who were determined to ethnically cleanse the Nation , except the labour party wish to do it to the Indigenous peoples. Scum Ive Cooper
  • Score: 69

10:06pm Thu 3 Jul 14

Ive Cooper says...

Beyond News Forum wrote:
4,867 signatures against the plans and one with 3,308 in favour. How on Earth does that work in favour of the community?

I sense a huge amount of public anger descending on this town, and not just because of this Mosque. Sh!t is going to kick off big time, it is only a matter of time.
"As I look ahead, I am filled with foreboding; like the Roman, I seem to see 'the River Tiber foaming with much blood.'"
[quote][p][bold]Beyond News Forum[/bold] wrote: 4,867 signatures against the plans and one with 3,308 in favour. How on Earth does that work in favour of the community? I sense a huge amount of public anger descending on this town, and not just because of this Mosque. Sh!t is going to kick off big time, it is only a matter of time.[/p][/quote]"As I look ahead, I am filled with foreboding; like the Roman, I seem to see 'the River Tiber foaming with much blood.'" Ive Cooper
  • Score: 63

10:21pm Thu 3 Jul 14

Mick England says...

TheOneTrueWord wrote:
We all know this mosque was going to get passed, there could have been 10,000 signatures against it and it still would have got planning permission from Bolton Council.

I do not condone the behaviour of the idiots in the video, these kinds of people are just thugs who think the only answer is shouting, swearing and trying to show how big they are!

Bolton is supposed to be developing as a town, but it is getting worse, I urge anyone who can depart do so now for pastures new, because that is certainly what I am considering doing over the next 12 months.

An old pub on Holmeswood Road, Great Lever is now a Mosque called ‘Masjid-e-Taqwa’ on Friday prayers the chaos and traffic around Holmeswood Road / Lever Edge Lane is horrendous, any emergency services would not stand a chance to get down Holmeswood Road, and this is despite the Mosque having a large car park. The same use to happen at ‘Makka Mosque’ on Grecian Crescent on Friday afternoon, people using the Mosque would park anywhere without a care in the world for residents that were living in the area. No doubt this will happen with the new Mosque on Blackburn Road.

Could someone tell me why Great Lever needs FIVE MOSQUES within a quarter of a mile radius! And this is not including many of the others in Great Lever or Deane & Derby.

We have…

Masjid-e-Taqwa - Holmeswood Road
Aleef Mosque - 8 Higher Swan Lane, Bolton, BL3 3EQ
Darul Quran Mosque - 458 Bridgeman Street, Bolton, BL3 6TJ
Makka Mosque - Grecian Crescent, Bolton, BL3 6QU
Zakariyya Mosque - Peace Street, Bolton, BL3 5LJ

Surely Bolton has enough places for Muslims to worship, without adding more to the town.

It’s purely disgraceful, and I am no longer proud to be associated with this town.
They aren't idiots, I know some of them personally and they are just miffed at the blatant double standards associated with our planning committee. Just imagine in your widest dreams that the muslim appeasing council rejected the application, do you really think it would stop at shouting and chairs being kicked over? We only have to turn on the news to see that that this isn't the way islamic teachings deal with a situation, things are more brutal under islamic rule, which is what this town is becoming. When clifford has retired in his massive house on Armadale Rd, Deane with his double extention to the rear overlooking the scenic golf club, will he really give a second thought to the chaos caused by his planning department? What a nice view the leader of Bolton council has when he opens his curtains in the morning, no domes, no minarets, no droves of ferraris blocking his driveway, or traffic congestion, happy days for him!
[quote][p][bold]TheOneTrueWord[/bold] wrote: We all know this mosque was going to get passed, there could have been 10,000 signatures against it and it still would have got planning permission from Bolton Council. I do not condone the behaviour of the idiots in the video, these kinds of people are just thugs who think the only answer is shouting, swearing and trying to show how big they are! Bolton is supposed to be developing as a town, but it is getting worse, I urge anyone who can depart do so now for pastures new, because that is certainly what I am considering doing over the next 12 months. An old pub on Holmeswood Road, Great Lever is now a Mosque called ‘Masjid-e-Taqwa’ on Friday prayers the chaos and traffic around Holmeswood Road / Lever Edge Lane is horrendous, any emergency services would not stand a chance to get down Holmeswood Road, and this is despite the Mosque having a large car park. The same use to happen at ‘Makka Mosque’ on Grecian Crescent on Friday afternoon, people using the Mosque would park anywhere without a care in the world for residents that were living in the area. No doubt this will happen with the new Mosque on Blackburn Road. Could someone tell me why Great Lever needs FIVE MOSQUES within a quarter of a mile radius! And this is not including many of the others in Great Lever or Deane & Derby. We have… Masjid-e-Taqwa - Holmeswood Road Aleef Mosque - 8 Higher Swan Lane, Bolton, BL3 3EQ Darul Quran Mosque - 458 Bridgeman Street, Bolton, BL3 6TJ Makka Mosque - Grecian Crescent, Bolton, BL3 6QU Zakariyya Mosque - Peace Street, Bolton, BL3 5LJ Surely Bolton has enough places for Muslims to worship, without adding more to the town. It’s purely disgraceful, and I am no longer proud to be associated with this town.[/p][/quote]They aren't idiots, I know some of them personally and they are just miffed at the blatant double standards associated with our planning committee. Just imagine in your widest dreams that the muslim appeasing council rejected the application, do you really think it would stop at shouting and chairs being kicked over? We only have to turn on the news to see that that this isn't the way islamic teachings deal with a situation, things are more brutal under islamic rule, which is what this town is becoming. When clifford has retired in his massive house on Armadale Rd, Deane with his double extention to the rear overlooking the scenic golf club, will he really give a second thought to the chaos caused by his planning department? What a nice view the leader of Bolton council has when he opens his curtains in the morning, no domes, no minarets, no droves of ferraris blocking his driveway, or traffic congestion, happy days for him! Mick England
  • Score: 104

10:25pm Thu 3 Jul 14

breightmet kid says...

The only way that change can take place in Bolton is to vote all the present councillors out and elect a completely independent council that has the interests of the majority of the townsfolk at heart.

Ask one question. Why was there trouble at the planning committee meeting? Because people dont want the new building.

Remember its your elected representatives, local councillors or MP's that govern everyone's life. If you dont like what you get, vote them out.

One day the silent majority will get up off the sofa and be heard, until then the town and country will continue to go backwards.
The only way that change can take place in Bolton is to vote all the present councillors out and elect a completely independent council that has the interests of the majority of the townsfolk at heart. Ask one question. Why was there trouble at the planning committee meeting? Because people dont want the new building. Remember its your elected representatives, local councillors or MP's that govern everyone's life. If you dont like what you get, vote them out. One day the silent majority will get up off the sofa and be heard, until then the town and country will continue to go backwards. breightmet kid
  • Score: 95

10:25pm Thu 3 Jul 14

lushcreep says...

I feel unsafe enough as it is. Walking by the mosque and around Halliwell, i get harassed and shamed by local residents for how I dress- which is perfectly normal for a British girl. I feel as if I'm not in England anymore. Not to mention it taking 1hr to get from town centre to Belmont road during mosque times, because the traffic is so terrible there at the moment. Considering moving to another town, but god knows, it will probably end up like this all over England
I feel unsafe enough as it is. Walking by the mosque and around Halliwell, i get harassed and shamed by local residents for how I dress- which is perfectly normal for a British girl. I feel as if I'm not in England anymore. Not to mention it taking 1hr to get from town centre to Belmont road during mosque times, because the traffic is so terrible there at the moment. Considering moving to another town, but god knows, it will probably end up like this all over England lushcreep
  • Score: 100

10:26pm Thu 3 Jul 14

BlueRay79 says...

Looking at the amount of mosques in Halliwell, Dabuhill, Deane, Blackburn Road and other areas, it's clear that this is not needed. What I cannot understand, is they say "we are simply replacing the mosque", but that's not the case. The new mosque is on land opposite the old mosque. So what will happen to the old mosque?

Maybe they will keep all the women in the old mosque? or use it as a store room for burqa's?

Things like this are seriously going to drive normal folk into supporting BNP/EDL. The tension in this town has been building for years and it's the Labour Council causing the majority of the problems.
Looking at the amount of mosques in Halliwell, Dabuhill, Deane, Blackburn Road and other areas, it's clear that this is not needed. What I cannot understand, is they say "we are simply replacing the mosque", but that's not the case. The new mosque is on land opposite the old mosque. So what will happen to the old mosque? Maybe they will keep all the women in the old mosque? or use it as a store room for burqa's? Things like this are seriously going to drive normal folk into supporting BNP/EDL. The tension in this town has been building for years and it's the Labour Council causing the majority of the problems. BlueRay79
  • Score: 75

10:28pm Thu 3 Jul 14

bungie44 says...

This is nothing to do with planning it`s to do with future votes for this Labour council and and the same can be said of the Labour party as a whole that's why we had uncontrolled immigration when they were in power. The only way to do something about this is to stop voting for a Labour council the cure is in your hands or stop moaning.
This is nothing to do with planning it`s to do with future votes for this Labour council and and the same can be said of the Labour party as a whole that's why we had uncontrolled immigration when they were in power. The only way to do something about this is to stop voting for a Labour council the cure is in your hands or stop moaning. bungie44
  • Score: 88

10:37pm Thu 3 Jul 14

jackielucas59 says...

Dobbo1973 wrote:
It's a travesty point one they say its only replacing the old building but it will hold 300 more people. Point two I read that somebody got there extension turned down for being to imposing. I suppose towers and domes don't come into that bracket why can't the new building just blend in with everything else is there really a need for domes and towers as the existing building doesn't have them so I presume it's not important for the religious aspect maybe it's for the islamification of Bolton I think our town is being sold down the river and these so called councillors aren't thinking about the town and what it will be like in another 10/20 years. I'm already thinking of leaving its a joke
Everyone in Bolton had their chance to vote for their councillors at the last election. yet very few bothered to turn out to use that vote, but every Muslim in Bolton did, hence they got their mosque. If you dont use your vote then you can not have a shout when things go wrong. Those councillors know who to keep sweet because they know they will get their votes. Thinkon at the next electon.
[quote][p][bold]Dobbo1973[/bold] wrote: It's a travesty point one they say its only replacing the old building but it will hold 300 more people. Point two I read that somebody got there extension turned down for being to imposing. I suppose towers and domes don't come into that bracket why can't the new building just blend in with everything else is there really a need for domes and towers as the existing building doesn't have them so I presume it's not important for the religious aspect maybe it's for the islamification of Bolton I think our town is being sold down the river and these so called councillors aren't thinking about the town and what it will be like in another 10/20 years. I'm already thinking of leaving its a joke[/p][/quote]Everyone in Bolton had their chance to vote for their councillors at the last election. yet very few bothered to turn out to use that vote, but every Muslim in Bolton did, hence they got their mosque. If you dont use your vote then you can not have a shout when things go wrong. Those councillors know who to keep sweet because they know they will get their votes. Thinkon at the next electon. jackielucas59
  • Score: 84

10:40pm Thu 3 Jul 14

127001 says...

Beyond News Forum wrote:
Dobbo1973 wrote:
It's a travesty point one they say its only replacing the old building but it will hold 300 more people. Point two I read that somebody got there extension turned down for being to imposing. I suppose towers and domes don't come into that bracket why can't the new building just blend in with everything else is there really a need for domes and towers as the existing building doesn't have them so I presume it's not important for the religious aspect maybe it's for the islamification of Bolton I think our town is being sold down the river and these so called councillors aren't thinking about the town and what it will be like in another 10/20 years. I'm already thinking of leaving its a joke
I predict a riot.
I'm seriously concerned over what's going to happen over the next few days/weeks/months.
[quote][p][bold]Beyond News Forum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dobbo1973[/bold] wrote: It's a travesty point one they say its only replacing the old building but it will hold 300 more people. Point two I read that somebody got there extension turned down for being to imposing. I suppose towers and domes don't come into that bracket why can't the new building just blend in with everything else is there really a need for domes and towers as the existing building doesn't have them so I presume it's not important for the religious aspect maybe it's for the islamification of Bolton I think our town is being sold down the river and these so called councillors aren't thinking about the town and what it will be like in another 10/20 years. I'm already thinking of leaving its a joke[/p][/quote]I predict a riot.[/p][/quote]I'm seriously concerned over what's going to happen over the next few days/weeks/months. 127001
  • Score: 40

10:42pm Thu 3 Jul 14

pelaro says...

Beyond News Forum wrote:
Dobbo1973 wrote:
It's a travesty point one they say its only replacing the old building but it will hold 300 more people. Point two I read that somebody got there extension turned down for being to imposing. I suppose towers and domes don't come into that bracket why can't the new building just blend in with everything else is there really a need for domes and towers as the existing building doesn't have them so I presume it's not important for the religious aspect maybe it's for the islamification of Bolton I think our town is being sold down the river and these so called councillors aren't thinking about the town and what it will be like in another 10/20 years. I'm already thinking of leaving its a joke
I predict a riot.
I hope so !
[quote][p][bold]Beyond News Forum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dobbo1973[/bold] wrote: It's a travesty point one they say its only replacing the old building but it will hold 300 more people. Point two I read that somebody got there extension turned down for being to imposing. I suppose towers and domes don't come into that bracket why can't the new building just blend in with everything else is there really a need for domes and towers as the existing building doesn't have them so I presume it's not important for the religious aspect maybe it's for the islamification of Bolton I think our town is being sold down the river and these so called councillors aren't thinking about the town and what it will be like in another 10/20 years. I'm already thinking of leaving its a joke[/p][/quote]I predict a riot.[/p][/quote]I hope so ! pelaro
  • Score: 9

10:51pm Thu 3 Jul 14

jackielucas59 says...

You all need to appeal the decision, it will hold it all up, and the appeal will be heard by an independant panel. Everyone has a right to appeal councils
decision, so use your right.
You all need to appeal the decision, it will hold it all up, and the appeal will be heard by an independant panel. Everyone has a right to appeal councils decision, so use your right. jackielucas59
  • Score: 65

11:04pm Thu 3 Jul 14

Mick England says...

jackielucas59 wrote:
Dobbo1973 wrote:
It's a travesty point one they say its only replacing the old building but it will hold 300 more people. Point two I read that somebody got there extension turned down for being to imposing. I suppose towers and domes don't come into that bracket why can't the new building just blend in with everything else is there really a need for domes and towers as the existing building doesn't have them so I presume it's not important for the religious aspect maybe it's for the islamification of Bolton I think our town is being sold down the river and these so called councillors aren't thinking about the town and what it will be like in another 10/20 years. I'm already thinking of leaving its a joke
Everyone in Bolton had their chance to vote for their councillors at the last election. yet very few bothered to turn out to use that vote, but every Muslim in Bolton did, hence they got their mosque. If you dont use your vote then you can not have a shout when things go wrong. Those councillors know who to keep sweet because they know they will get their votes. Thinkon at the next electon.
Hopefully people will show their disgust at the next elections, if not it's pointless spouting it off on here, the BN isn't standing for council! But then again we saw today that votes against the application far exceeded votes for, yet planning was granted, why? Either the council isn't listening to its constituents or brown envolopes can sway the final decision!
[quote][p][bold]jackielucas59[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dobbo1973[/bold] wrote: It's a travesty point one they say its only replacing the old building but it will hold 300 more people. Point two I read that somebody got there extension turned down for being to imposing. I suppose towers and domes don't come into that bracket why can't the new building just blend in with everything else is there really a need for domes and towers as the existing building doesn't have them so I presume it's not important for the religious aspect maybe it's for the islamification of Bolton I think our town is being sold down the river and these so called councillors aren't thinking about the town and what it will be like in another 10/20 years. I'm already thinking of leaving its a joke[/p][/quote]Everyone in Bolton had their chance to vote for their councillors at the last election. yet very few bothered to turn out to use that vote, but every Muslim in Bolton did, hence they got their mosque. If you dont use your vote then you can not have a shout when things go wrong. Those councillors know who to keep sweet because they know they will get their votes. Thinkon at the next electon.[/p][/quote]Hopefully people will show their disgust at the next elections, if not it's pointless spouting it off on here, the BN isn't standing for council! But then again we saw today that votes against the application far exceeded votes for, yet planning was granted, why? Either the council isn't listening to its constituents or brown envolopes can sway the final decision! Mick England
  • Score: 34

11:12pm Thu 3 Jul 14

Lawlesschat says...

Beyond News Forum wrote:
4,867 signatures against the plans and one with 3,308 in favour. How on Earth does that work in favour of the community?

I sense a huge amount of public anger descending on this town, and not just because of this Mosque. Sh!t is going to kick off big time, it is only a matter of time.
You might find that the signatures aren't just from Bolton but all over, including abroad.
[quote][p][bold]Beyond News Forum[/bold] wrote: 4,867 signatures against the plans and one with 3,308 in favour. How on Earth does that work in favour of the community? I sense a huge amount of public anger descending on this town, and not just because of this Mosque. Sh!t is going to kick off big time, it is only a matter of time.[/p][/quote]You might find that the signatures aren't just from Bolton but all over, including abroad. Lawlesschat
  • Score: -6

11:13pm Thu 3 Jul 14

juancarlos66 says...

Enoch was right. There will be rivers of blood and I hope the people of England will rise up to the challenge.

The people who run this country do it for thier own gain...not ours.
Enoch was right. There will be rivers of blood and I hope the people of England will rise up to the challenge. The people who run this country do it for thier own gain...not ours. juancarlos66
  • Score: 40

12:41am Fri 4 Jul 14

TilerJ says...

Rivers of blood? Have you heard yourselves? You're inciting violence with your words, but I think that's exactly what you're after. At least the muslims followed the due process. And your islamophobic personalities isn't a valid reason to oppose a building even if you keep trying to hide behind 'traffic issues'.
Rivers of blood? Have you heard yourselves? You're inciting violence with your words, but I think that's exactly what you're after. At least the muslims followed the due process. And your islamophobic personalities isn't a valid reason to oppose a building even if you keep trying to hide behind 'traffic issues'. TilerJ
  • Score: -11

12:43am Fri 4 Jul 14

Blackrod says...

Just seen the lovely red brick building they plan to pull down off the blog, didn't realise this victorian heratige would be distroyed in the process. Shameful that members of the council are not proud of the towns heratige and culture.
Just seen the lovely red brick building they plan to pull down off the blog, didn't realise this victorian heratige would be distroyed in the process. Shameful that members of the council are not proud of the towns heratige and culture. Blackrod
  • Score: 36

1:06am Fri 4 Jul 14

Lawlesschat says...

Blackrod wrote:
Just seen the lovely red brick building they plan to pull down off the blog, didn't realise this victorian heratige would be distroyed in the process. Shameful that members of the council are not proud of the towns heratige and culture.
It's spelt destroyed.
[quote][p][bold]Blackrod[/bold] wrote: Just seen the lovely red brick building they plan to pull down off the blog, didn't realise this victorian heratige would be distroyed in the process. Shameful that members of the council are not proud of the towns heratige and culture.[/p][/quote]It's spelt destroyed. Lawlesschat
  • Score: -20

1:38am Fri 4 Jul 14

pradagucci says...

OMG. It was the worst representation I have ever seen. This is NOT Bolton, most people in Bolton is not this hence there was hardly 15 of the against mosque party. Dressed so bad, swearing whilst the discussion was taking place and then when it was approved throwing chairs down, threatening protests with NF and EDL. I was on their side but walked away. I think the Muslims acted very honourably. I can see crap like this only makes them stronger. Them 4500 signatures I think we're made up how many people on here signed them? Even the protest on Blackburn road there was hardly 50 of us. When I think about it, my mum lives in a Muslim area she feels more safer there than I do living around tinge moor and breightmeight. It would have been better these thugs didn't turn up today. Anyway I think soon we will have a Muslim prime minister. One of the thugs said if Scotland became independent it's going to be converted to a Muslim country and called ISCOTLANDBUL!!!!! she also said why is ofsted not involved in the planning?????? Ofsted regulate our schools love not planning. It was entertaining tho but also sad. Sad to see these guys won't get a job, open businesses and do something with their life. I hope when the mosque is built they keep a open day and invite non Muslims to come and see it.
OMG. It was the worst representation I have ever seen. This is NOT Bolton, most people in Bolton is not this hence there was hardly 15 of the against mosque party. Dressed so bad, swearing whilst the discussion was taking place and then when it was approved throwing chairs down, threatening protests with NF and EDL. I was on their side but walked away. I think the Muslims acted very honourably. I can see crap like this only makes them stronger. Them 4500 signatures I think we're made up how many people on here signed them? Even the protest on Blackburn road there was hardly 50 of us. When I think about it, my mum lives in a Muslim area she feels more safer there than I do living around tinge moor and breightmeight. It would have been better these thugs didn't turn up today. Anyway I think soon we will have a Muslim prime minister. One of the thugs said if Scotland became independent it's going to be converted to a Muslim country and called ISCOTLANDBUL!!!!! she also said why is ofsted not involved in the planning?????? Ofsted regulate our schools love not planning. It was entertaining tho but also sad. Sad to see these guys won't get a job, open businesses and do something with their life. I hope when the mosque is built they keep a open day and invite non Muslims to come and see it. pradagucci
  • Score: 56

2:08am Fri 4 Jul 14

sensiblemann says...

Open Comment & suggestion to Bolton Council, Taiybah Society & Astley bridge residents

No to the domes & minarets
No to a totally New Mosque

Yes to modernising the existing mosque
Yes to preservation of the historic Red brickwork

Taiyabah Society ought to show some humility in victory of plamning application and graciously accept the public view - revamping current mosque is okay and welcome investment in the community.

Giving the public a consultation and few major concessions - even on the dome or minaret will a be good gesture to the public and show the mosques willingness to engage in the democratic process of consensus and consultation ( shury)

No public consultation occured from the mosque or tendering/competitio
n process for the winning designs whicg were unilaterally decided by Individual whim.

It would have been better to have local applications and suggestions and proposals for the re-development and modernisation from the local non-muslim population to engage with and a have a hand and stake in the future of the mosque and ultimately community asset.

Its persian-esque medival architecture is not good for the mosque- its intimidating and unwelcoming and provokes islamaphobia and hysteria

The domes and minarets are not a part of the muslim religion and not necessary for mosque - in face strict muslim law prohibits it - this features are imported from the greek & persian culture and the mosque will be more than perfectly functional without these imposing features

Its a rather small concession for the Taiyabah Society to make in return for making the public happy and recieving unanimous consensus & support for the project.

Taiybah Society should be magnanamous and humble in victory and Should give an extended public consultation period as well as not going ahead with building the imposing features

Instead it should opt for theme of Transparency, local heritage modernity and environmentally friendly architecture to the building glass grass greenery and heritage - the current building has no dome and prayers are still happening so its not a prerequisite by any means and dome can be incorporated internally by interior design to the ceiling via the plastering than imposed from outside - many mosques opt for this technique as a solution than to provoke the public.

In Medina the main The prophets mosque was a humble mud walled structure simple plain and functional withou minarets and domes for the prophets lifetimr and at least 20 years after his death.

Most of the muslims cpmmunity opposed a senseless large red dome for the Zakariyya Mosque which is leaky and cost nearly £200, 000 a total misuse of community money better spent on education medical orphans widows pensioners and hungry &homeless peoples.

In fact the muslim community was emotionally blackmailed by the mosque to donate and nany innocent people gave their life savings on account of pleasing God, yet the very same men who elicited your donations have split (family dispute played out in the Mosque ) and gone and opened another one down the road next to Haslam Taxis rank on Deane .

This is the Reality - no point beating around the bush - yes there are fascits anti semites and neo-nazis who are using to hijack the legitimate euro-sceptic sentiments to further there bigoted and anti -everyone else hysteria especially anti-muslim & anti-jewish prejudice and hysteria

Yet the Muslim people ought to be sensible and get their own house in order and not give extra opportunity for the far-right

Taiyabah Society is playing with fire and dangerous brinkmanship for something that can be sorted very easily with public involvement and everyone made happy.

The average non-muslim in astley bridge who opposes the misque are not racists but need to be better represented in the mosque design and development and build process and have their voices heard and their proposed contributions and concerns recognised.

This will reduce the appeal of the far-right to the average person in Astley bridge this issye has started to polarize the once close knit community - time for some bridge building before mosque building

Many Thanks
Open Comment & suggestion to Bolton Council, Taiybah Society & Astley bridge residents No to the domes & minarets No to a totally New Mosque Yes to modernising the existing mosque Yes to preservation of the historic Red brickwork Taiyabah Society ought to show some humility in victory of plamning application and graciously accept the public view - revamping current mosque is okay and welcome investment in the community. Giving the public a consultation and few major concessions - even on the dome or minaret will a be good gesture to the public and show the mosques willingness to engage in the democratic process of consensus and consultation ( shury) No public consultation occured from the mosque or tendering/competitio n process for the winning designs whicg were unilaterally decided by Individual whim. It would have been better to have local applications and suggestions and proposals for the re-development and modernisation from the local non-muslim population to engage with and a have a hand and stake in the future of the mosque and ultimately community asset. Its persian-esque medival architecture is not good for the mosque- its intimidating and unwelcoming and provokes islamaphobia and hysteria The domes and minarets are not a part of the muslim religion and not necessary for mosque - in face strict muslim law prohibits it - this features are imported from the greek & persian culture and the mosque will be more than perfectly functional without these imposing features Its a rather small concession for the Taiyabah Society to make in return for making the public happy and recieving unanimous consensus & support for the project. Taiybah Society should be magnanamous and humble in victory and Should give an extended public consultation period as well as not going ahead with building the imposing features Instead it should opt for theme of Transparency, local heritage modernity and environmentally friendly architecture to the building glass grass greenery and heritage - the current building has no dome and prayers are still happening so its not a prerequisite by any means and dome can be incorporated internally by interior design to the ceiling via the plastering than imposed from outside - many mosques opt for this technique as a solution than to provoke the public. In Medina the main The prophets mosque was a humble mud walled structure simple plain and functional withou minarets and domes for the prophets lifetimr and at least 20 years after his death. Most of the muslims cpmmunity opposed a senseless large red dome for the Zakariyya Mosque which is leaky and cost nearly £200, 000 a total misuse of community money better spent on education medical orphans widows pensioners and hungry &homeless peoples. In fact the muslim community was emotionally blackmailed by the mosque to donate and nany innocent people gave their life savings on account of pleasing God, yet the very same men who elicited your donations have split (family dispute played out in the Mosque ) and gone and opened another one down the road next to Haslam Taxis rank on Deane . This is the Reality - no point beating around the bush - yes there are fascits anti semites and neo-nazis who are using to hijack the legitimate euro-sceptic sentiments to further there bigoted and anti -everyone else hysteria especially anti-muslim & anti-jewish prejudice and hysteria Yet the Muslim people ought to be sensible and get their own house in order and not give extra opportunity for the far-right Taiyabah Society is playing with fire and dangerous brinkmanship for something that can be sorted very easily with public involvement and everyone made happy. The average non-muslim in astley bridge who opposes the misque are not racists but need to be better represented in the mosque design and development and build process and have their voices heard and their proposed contributions and concerns recognised. This will reduce the appeal of the far-right to the average person in Astley bridge this issye has started to polarize the once close knit community - time for some bridge building before mosque building Many Thanks sensiblemann
  • Score: 41

4:52am Fri 4 Jul 14

pelaro says...

What Britain needs is a Second Amendment . If Britain is lost, America, along with Australia and New Zealand, stands alone. A Churchill is needed now, more than ever.
What Britain needs is a Second Amendment . If Britain is lost, America, along with Australia and New Zealand, stands alone. A Churchill is needed now, more than ever. pelaro
  • Score: 5

6:35am Fri 4 Jul 14

Oldhampal says...

Decisions made today will affect the town, this is why we need sensible people representing us, most of the elected members are voted on because of the party they represent, very rarely do you get Councillors who represent the needs of the electorate, some people think we need to change our culture, some are quite happy with what we used to be a society fair and with welfare and medical Infrastructure which was very attractive to people Living outside of our country, so why then would we or the people want to change this? Why do our Councillors not see that this particular application will change the area beyond recognition and possibly crate a ghetto and Ill feeling amongst our community. I recall a massive campaign about the Birtenshaw development and one of the Councillors objecting suggested that if the development was to go ahead then he would like to see the streets named after War criminals? Was this the voice of a sound minded person. remember folks fairness within proportion is not discriminatory.
Decisions made today will affect the town, this is why we need sensible people representing us, most of the elected members are voted on because of the party they represent, very rarely do you get Councillors who represent the needs of the electorate, some people think we need to change our culture, some are quite happy with what we used to be a society fair and with welfare and medical Infrastructure which was very attractive to people Living outside of our country, so why then would we or the people want to change this? Why do our Councillors not see that this particular application will change the area beyond recognition and possibly crate a ghetto and Ill feeling amongst our community. I recall a massive campaign about the Birtenshaw development and one of the Councillors objecting suggested that if the development was to go ahead then he would like to see the streets named after War criminals? Was this the voice of a sound minded person. remember folks fairness within proportion is not discriminatory. Oldhampal
  • Score: -7

7:27am Fri 4 Jul 14

JustBecause says...

did-i-just-say-that wrote:
What a disgrace! Absolute travesty! And I'm not talking about the mosque!

Just look at that knuckle dragging chav with his Stone Island hoodie kicking chairs over because he didn't get his way!

I hope this video footage leads to a prosecution under a public order laws!
Why the negatives for this comment, these scum bags should have been arrested, this is no way to try to get your point across, morons and racist benefit scum.

Sure protest, do something, , but at least have a reason, other than your a racist scum bag with the intellect of a pot frog.

Fingers crossed for criminal charges.
[quote][p][bold]did-i-just-say-that[/bold] wrote: What a disgrace! Absolute travesty! And I'm not talking about the mosque! Just look at that knuckle dragging chav with his Stone Island hoodie kicking chairs over because he didn't get his way! I hope this video footage leads to a prosecution under a public order laws![/p][/quote]Why the negatives for this comment, these scum bags should have been arrested, this is no way to try to get your point across, morons and racist benefit scum. Sure protest, do something, , but at least have a reason, other than your a racist scum bag with the intellect of a pot frog. Fingers crossed for criminal charges. JustBecause
  • Score: 15

7:38am Fri 4 Jul 14

Reed Lover says...

Just a load of racist ranting and Islamaphobia from feckless louts and chavvy women as usual. I'd rather look at a mosque on every street corner than let this scum think they are representing the views of the people of Bolton with their bigotry and thuggery.
I can think of 5 "Christian" church buildings in Astley Bridge off the top of my head, any ideas as to why we needed 5?
Just a load of racist ranting and Islamaphobia from feckless louts and chavvy women as usual. I'd rather look at a mosque on every street corner than let this scum think they are representing the views of the people of Bolton with their bigotry and thuggery. I can think of 5 "Christian" church buildings in Astley Bridge off the top of my head, any ideas as to why we needed 5? Reed Lover
  • Score: -9

7:39am Fri 4 Jul 14

The Squire In Residence says...

Why do you think the application (or more correctly the planning hearing) was AFTER the local elections? They managed to sneak it by everyone - and this paper is as guilty by colluding with the councillors over this (by NOT advertising until after the elections by request of certain individuals).
Its a little late now, but why don't people make sure they turn out at the elections next time. It is too late to bolt the stable door once the horse has bolted, but if people actually voted, Cliff et al would not be pulling the strings.... Simple
Why do you think the application (or more correctly the planning hearing) was AFTER the local elections? They managed to sneak it by everyone - and this paper is as guilty by colluding with the councillors over this (by NOT advertising until after the elections by request of certain individuals). Its a little late now, but why don't people make sure they turn out at the elections next time. It is too late to bolt the stable door once the horse has bolted, but if people actually voted, Cliff et al would not be pulling the strings.... Simple The Squire In Residence
  • Score: 66

7:59am Fri 4 Jul 14

thomas222 says...

Notice how the Mosque proposal was announced just AFTER the Elections. Bolton Council has just delivered the final insult to the people of Bolton who decide their existence or not. This action will be the straw that broke the Camels back for many in all areas of this Town at the next election. As a UKIP supporter i thank them for giving us the keys to the Town Hall next time out.
Notice how the Mosque proposal was announced just AFTER the Elections. Bolton Council has just delivered the final insult to the people of Bolton who decide their existence or not. This action will be the straw that broke the Camels back for many in all areas of this Town at the next election. As a UKIP supporter i thank them for giving us the keys to the Town Hall next time out. thomas222
  • Score: 38

8:27am Fri 4 Jul 14

joanne patricia openshaw sanders says...

Firstly let me say sorry for swearing at the meeting, i am not against anything being built to enhance the community but i do think this was a done deal not only does it affect Blackburn road traffic but also Halliwell road traffic. whichever road you go up during prayer time each road is just as busy it is only going to be a matter of time before someone is killed crossing any of the roads i have seen children as young as 5 and 6 having to cross Halliwell road after coming out of the Mosque and having to cross the road coming from behind parked cars.. At least they should have had the brains to do a proper report on both roads for the safety of everyone you only see half a story on here i thought phones were supposed to be switched off at these meetings seems it ok for some of the minority to video it and put it in the local paper showing it to be as one sided never mind the abuse one young woman had to endure whilst just passing to go to the ladies and the abuse came from a young man that was in favour of the mosque all i am saying is there are three sides to a story and you will never see things the same way everyone sees things differently and has their own opinions but it seems none of the councilors at the meeting live in Blackburn road or Halliwell so it wont affect them until someone is killed while crossing either road because of the congestion.
Firstly let me say sorry for swearing at the meeting, i am not against anything being built to enhance the community but i do think this was a done deal not only does it affect Blackburn road traffic but also Halliwell road traffic. whichever road you go up during prayer time each road is just as busy it is only going to be a matter of time before someone is killed crossing any of the roads i have seen children as young as 5 and 6 having to cross Halliwell road after coming out of the Mosque and having to cross the road coming from behind parked cars.. At least they should have had the brains to do a proper report on both roads for the safety of everyone you only see half a story on here i thought phones were supposed to be switched off at these meetings seems it ok for some of the minority to video it and put it in the local paper showing it to be as one sided never mind the abuse one young woman had to endure whilst just passing to go to the ladies and the abuse came from a young man that was in favour of the mosque all i am saying is there are three sides to a story and you will never see things the same way everyone sees things differently and has their own opinions but it seems none of the councilors at the meeting live in Blackburn road or Halliwell so it wont affect them until someone is killed while crossing either road because of the congestion. joanne patricia openshaw sanders
  • Score: -14

9:03am Fri 4 Jul 14

mattaiuseire says...

joanne patricia openshaw sanders wrote:
Firstly let me say sorry for swearing at the meeting, i am not against anything being built to enhance the community but i do think this was a done deal not only does it affect Blackburn road traffic but also Halliwell road traffic. whichever road you go up during prayer time each road is just as busy it is only going to be a matter of time before someone is killed crossing any of the roads i have seen children as young as 5 and 6 having to cross Halliwell road after coming out of the Mosque and having to cross the road coming from behind parked cars.. At least they should have had the brains to do a proper report on both roads for the safety of everyone you only see half a story on here i thought phones were supposed to be switched off at these meetings seems it ok for some of the minority to video it and put it in the local paper showing it to be as one sided never mind the abuse one young woman had to endure whilst just passing to go to the ladies and the abuse came from a young man that was in favour of the mosque all i am saying is there are three sides to a story and you will never see things the same way everyone sees things differently and has their own opinions but it seems none of the councilors at the meeting live in Blackburn road or Halliwell so it wont affect them until someone is killed while crossing either road because of the congestion.
If that was the case then no buildings would be made at all. People do have to cross busy roads sometimes and the majority of people injured while crossing are hurt because they, not the drivers, were not paying attention.

I have no religion, but I respect peoples rights to believe whatever they want to. I'm not in favour of the mosque but at the same time using the old "schools for radicalisation" is just nonsense - I would urge anyone to provide proof on this absurd claim.
The majority of Muslims are very peaceful people, don't tar everyone with the same brush just because the media recites disinformation on every public broadcast.

What we need to be looking at is the real reason why those majority votes against were disregarded - we need to look at the puppets behind and what gain they get out of it.

As someone said already, those half witted inbreds that turn up throwing chairs and using coarse language are not the voice of the true people and protesting in this manner just shows what a bunch of jobsworths they really are. Vote with your feet.
[quote][p][bold]joanne patricia openshaw sanders[/bold] wrote: Firstly let me say sorry for swearing at the meeting, i am not against anything being built to enhance the community but i do think this was a done deal not only does it affect Blackburn road traffic but also Halliwell road traffic. whichever road you go up during prayer time each road is just as busy it is only going to be a matter of time before someone is killed crossing any of the roads i have seen children as young as 5 and 6 having to cross Halliwell road after coming out of the Mosque and having to cross the road coming from behind parked cars.. At least they should have had the brains to do a proper report on both roads for the safety of everyone you only see half a story on here i thought phones were supposed to be switched off at these meetings seems it ok for some of the minority to video it and put it in the local paper showing it to be as one sided never mind the abuse one young woman had to endure whilst just passing to go to the ladies and the abuse came from a young man that was in favour of the mosque all i am saying is there are three sides to a story and you will never see things the same way everyone sees things differently and has their own opinions but it seems none of the councilors at the meeting live in Blackburn road or Halliwell so it wont affect them until someone is killed while crossing either road because of the congestion.[/p][/quote]If that was the case then no buildings would be made at all. People do have to cross busy roads sometimes and the majority of people injured while crossing are hurt because they, not the drivers, were not paying attention. I have no religion, but I respect peoples rights to believe whatever they want to. I'm not in favour of the mosque but at the same time using the old "schools for radicalisation" is just nonsense - I would urge anyone to provide proof on this absurd claim. The majority of Muslims are very peaceful people, don't tar everyone with the same brush just because the media recites disinformation on every public broadcast. What we need to be looking at is the real reason why those majority votes against were disregarded - we need to look at the puppets behind and what gain they get out of it. As someone said already, those half witted inbreds that turn up throwing chairs and using coarse language are not the voice of the true people and protesting in this manner just shows what a bunch of jobsworths they really are. Vote with your feet. mattaiuseire
  • Score: 33

9:13am Fri 4 Jul 14

stereo_world says...

Oh look at that. Bolton news have conveniently left this article available for comment.
Oh look at that. Bolton news have conveniently left this article available for comment. stereo_world
  • Score: 8

9:24am Fri 4 Jul 14

SleepingThunder says...

I feel for there frustration ,what is the point when the council no longer listen to the democracy of the people.
I think a bit of covert ops is needed to get some leverage.
I feel for there frustration ,what is the point when the council no longer listen to the democracy of the people. I think a bit of covert ops is needed to get some leverage. SleepingThunder
  • Score: 5

9:34am Fri 4 Jul 14

rnorris says...

Bolton is in dramatic decline an has been for a number of years. Surely you didn't really expect planning permission to be refused for the new Super Mosque. It doesn't matter which political party is running Bolton Council , none will want to upset and lose the Asian vote due to the numbers involved...........j
ust saying what many people thnk but are afraid to say.
Bolton is in dramatic decline an has been for a number of years. Surely you didn't really expect planning permission to be refused for the new Super Mosque. It doesn't matter which political party is running Bolton Council , none will want to upset and lose the Asian vote due to the numbers involved...........j ust saying what many people thnk but are afraid to say. rnorris
  • Score: 23

9:37am Fri 4 Jul 14

pradagucci says...

lushcreep wrote:
I feel unsafe enough as it is. Walking by the mosque and around Halliwell, i get harassed and shamed by local residents for how I dress- which is perfectly normal for a British girl. I feel as if I'm not in England anymore. Not to mention it taking 1hr to get from town centre to Belmont road during mosque times, because the traffic is so terrible there at the moment. Considering moving to another town, but god knows, it will probably end up like this all over England
You get harassed and shamed? whatever lush, what are you miss bolton? no one stops you dressing the way you want, you dress the way the media and society dictate fashion, even if your uncomfortable, no one throws abuse at you daily so stop talking rubbish. why is it the mosques fault that theres loads of traffic? just like its bwfc fault that its mayhem when its football match? i remember when it was on manchester road, that was even a bigger joke.
[quote][p][bold]lushcreep[/bold] wrote: I feel unsafe enough as it is. Walking by the mosque and around Halliwell, i get harassed and shamed by local residents for how I dress- which is perfectly normal for a British girl. I feel as if I'm not in England anymore. Not to mention it taking 1hr to get from town centre to Belmont road during mosque times, because the traffic is so terrible there at the moment. Considering moving to another town, but god knows, it will probably end up like this all over England[/p][/quote]You get harassed and shamed? whatever lush, what are you miss bolton? no one stops you dressing the way you want, you dress the way the media and society dictate fashion, even if your uncomfortable, no one throws abuse at you daily so stop talking rubbish. why is it the mosques fault that theres loads of traffic? just like its bwfc fault that its mayhem when its football match? i remember when it was on manchester road, that was even a bigger joke. pradagucci
  • Score: 3

9:42am Fri 4 Jul 14

thomas222 says...

mattaiuseire wrote:
joanne patricia openshaw sanders wrote:
Firstly let me say sorry for swearing at the meeting, i am not against anything being built to enhance the community but i do think this was a done deal not only does it affect Blackburn road traffic but also Halliwell road traffic. whichever road you go up during prayer time each road is just as busy it is only going to be a matter of time before someone is killed crossing any of the roads i have seen children as young as 5 and 6 having to cross Halliwell road after coming out of the Mosque and having to cross the road coming from behind parked cars.. At least they should have had the brains to do a proper report on both roads for the safety of everyone you only see half a story on here i thought phones were supposed to be switched off at these meetings seems it ok for some of the minority to video it and put it in the local paper showing it to be as one sided never mind the abuse one young woman had to endure whilst just passing to go to the ladies and the abuse came from a young man that was in favour of the mosque all i am saying is there are three sides to a story and you will never see things the same way everyone sees things differently and has their own opinions but it seems none of the councilors at the meeting live in Blackburn road or Halliwell so it wont affect them until someone is killed while crossing either road because of the congestion.
If that was the case then no buildings would be made at all. People do have to cross busy roads sometimes and the majority of people injured while crossing are hurt because they, not the drivers, were not paying attention.

I have no religion, but I respect peoples rights to believe whatever they want to. I'm not in favour of the mosque but at the same time using the old "schools for radicalisation" is just nonsense - I would urge anyone to provide proof on this absurd claim.
The majority of Muslims are very peaceful people, don't tar everyone with the same brush just because the media recites disinformation on every public broadcast.

What we need to be looking at is the real reason why those majority votes against were disregarded - we need to look at the puppets behind and what gain they get out of it.

As someone said already, those half witted inbreds that turn up throwing chairs and using coarse language are not the voice of the true people and protesting in this manner just shows what a bunch of jobsworths they really are. Vote with your feet.
After the 7/7 bombings the number of Majority peaceful Muslims you mention who took to the streets to protest against Minority Muslims killing in their name & the name of Islam was Zero. Three weeks later the same Majority peaceful Muslims you mention came on the streets in their thousands all over the Country & World because a newspaper printed some cartoons that offended them. Its not rocket science.
[quote][p][bold]mattaiuseire[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]joanne patricia openshaw sanders[/bold] wrote: Firstly let me say sorry for swearing at the meeting, i am not against anything being built to enhance the community but i do think this was a done deal not only does it affect Blackburn road traffic but also Halliwell road traffic. whichever road you go up during prayer time each road is just as busy it is only going to be a matter of time before someone is killed crossing any of the roads i have seen children as young as 5 and 6 having to cross Halliwell road after coming out of the Mosque and having to cross the road coming from behind parked cars.. At least they should have had the brains to do a proper report on both roads for the safety of everyone you only see half a story on here i thought phones were supposed to be switched off at these meetings seems it ok for some of the minority to video it and put it in the local paper showing it to be as one sided never mind the abuse one young woman had to endure whilst just passing to go to the ladies and the abuse came from a young man that was in favour of the mosque all i am saying is there are three sides to a story and you will never see things the same way everyone sees things differently and has their own opinions but it seems none of the councilors at the meeting live in Blackburn road or Halliwell so it wont affect them until someone is killed while crossing either road because of the congestion.[/p][/quote]If that was the case then no buildings would be made at all. People do have to cross busy roads sometimes and the majority of people injured while crossing are hurt because they, not the drivers, were not paying attention. I have no religion, but I respect peoples rights to believe whatever they want to. I'm not in favour of the mosque but at the same time using the old "schools for radicalisation" is just nonsense - I would urge anyone to provide proof on this absurd claim. The majority of Muslims are very peaceful people, don't tar everyone with the same brush just because the media recites disinformation on every public broadcast. What we need to be looking at is the real reason why those majority votes against were disregarded - we need to look at the puppets behind and what gain they get out of it. As someone said already, those half witted inbreds that turn up throwing chairs and using coarse language are not the voice of the true people and protesting in this manner just shows what a bunch of jobsworths they really are. Vote with your feet.[/p][/quote]After the 7/7 bombings the number of Majority peaceful Muslims you mention who took to the streets to protest against Minority Muslims killing in their name & the name of Islam was Zero. Three weeks later the same Majority peaceful Muslims you mention came on the streets in their thousands all over the Country & World because a newspaper printed some cartoons that offended them. Its not rocket science. thomas222
  • Score: 23

10:08am Fri 4 Jul 14

Beyond News Forum says...

Ive Cooper wrote:
Beyond News Forum wrote:
4,867 signatures against the plans and one with 3,308 in favour. How on Earth does that work in favour of the community?

I sense a huge amount of public anger descending on this town, and not just because of this Mosque. Sh!t is going to kick off big time, it is only a matter of time.
"As I look ahead, I am filled with foreboding; like the Roman, I seem to see 'the River Tiber foaming with much blood.'"
"I see wars, horrible wars..."

The truth of the matter. The players on both sides are seeming poised to let the games begin.
[quote][p][bold]Ive Cooper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Beyond News Forum[/bold] wrote: 4,867 signatures against the plans and one with 3,308 in favour. How on Earth does that work in favour of the community? I sense a huge amount of public anger descending on this town, and not just because of this Mosque. Sh!t is going to kick off big time, it is only a matter of time.[/p][/quote]"As I look ahead, I am filled with foreboding; like the Roman, I seem to see 'the River Tiber foaming with much blood.'"[/p][/quote]"I see wars, horrible wars..." The truth of the matter. The players on both sides are seeming poised to let the games begin. Beyond News Forum
  • Score: 15

10:14am Fri 4 Jul 14

Beyond News Forum says...

127001 wrote:
Beyond News Forum wrote:
Dobbo1973 wrote:
It's a travesty point one they say its only replacing the old building but it will hold 300 more people. Point two I read that somebody got there extension turned down for being to imposing. I suppose towers and domes don't come into that bracket why can't the new building just blend in with everything else is there really a need for domes and towers as the existing building doesn't have them so I presume it's not important for the religious aspect maybe it's for the islamification of Bolton I think our town is being sold down the river and these so called councillors aren't thinking about the town and what it will be like in another 10/20 years. I'm already thinking of leaving its a joke
I predict a riot.
I'm seriously concerned over what's going to happen over the next few days/weeks/months.
People think that the anger shown in the town hall is just thuggery... foolish people with their righteous minds, they do not see the truth as they are blinded by propaganda. Anger... emotions... they spill over when something is not right. I do not condone the behaviour but at the same time I applaud the anger shown.

If people think kicking a few chairs over and a few swear words are something to belittle those who are standing up for the rights of the community as a whole, then they will be wondering what all the fuss was about when this town and many other around the country are plunged into civil war and... maybe even worse... the call to arms from Allah.

This is not fearmongering... those who say they will return from Syria state so themselves. Re: Cardiff Jihadist Threatens UK.
[quote][p][bold]127001[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Beyond News Forum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dobbo1973[/bold] wrote: It's a travesty point one they say its only replacing the old building but it will hold 300 more people. Point two I read that somebody got there extension turned down for being to imposing. I suppose towers and domes don't come into that bracket why can't the new building just blend in with everything else is there really a need for domes and towers as the existing building doesn't have them so I presume it's not important for the religious aspect maybe it's for the islamification of Bolton I think our town is being sold down the river and these so called councillors aren't thinking about the town and what it will be like in another 10/20 years. I'm already thinking of leaving its a joke[/p][/quote]I predict a riot.[/p][/quote]I'm seriously concerned over what's going to happen over the next few days/weeks/months.[/p][/quote]People think that the anger shown in the town hall is just thuggery... foolish people with their righteous minds, they do not see the truth as they are blinded by propaganda. Anger... emotions... they spill over when something is not right. I do not condone the behaviour but at the same time I applaud the anger shown. If people think kicking a few chairs over and a few swear words are something to belittle those who are standing up for the rights of the community as a whole, then they will be wondering what all the fuss was about when this town and many other around the country are plunged into civil war and... maybe even worse... the call to arms from Allah. This is not fearmongering... those who say they will return from Syria state so themselves. Re: Cardiff Jihadist Threatens UK. Beyond News Forum
  • Score: -5

10:19am Fri 4 Jul 14

Brumas says...

How glad I am to be married with no children and seventy years old, coming to the twilight of my life. I have voted Labour all my life, up until recent years Labour policies have best suited the working class of Great Britain, but no more. I now know what the devil incarnate looks like, because Labour and for that matter all of the other political parties, have sold their souls to the devil. The Labour leader’s message for the start of Ramadan was a far bigger gaff than appearing in the Sun. This action of kowtowing to Islam will lead (and should) to the demise of Labour both nationally and locally, eventually followed by all the other present political parties. So as I said I am glad to be in the position I am, because I fear for the future and what the future will bring. Read some of the teachings of Islam, who consider the world is theirs in the first place and they believe they will again dominate by stealth or otherwise.
How glad I am to be married with no children and seventy years old, coming to the twilight of my life. I have voted Labour all my life, up until recent years Labour policies have best suited the working class of Great Britain, but no more. I now know what the devil incarnate looks like, because Labour and for that matter all of the other political parties, have sold their souls to the devil. The Labour leader’s message for the start of Ramadan was a far bigger gaff than appearing in the Sun. This action of kowtowing to Islam will lead (and should) to the demise of Labour both nationally and locally, eventually followed by all the other present political parties. So as I said I am glad to be in the position I am, because I fear for the future and what the future will bring. Read some of the teachings of Islam, who consider the world is theirs in the first place and they believe they will again dominate by stealth or otherwise. Brumas
  • Score: 16

10:19am Fri 4 Jul 14

Beyond News Forum says...

TilerJ wrote:
Rivers of blood? Have you heard yourselves? You're inciting violence with your words, but I think that's exactly what you're after. At least the muslims followed the due process. And your islamophobic personalities isn't a valid reason to oppose a building even if you keep trying to hide behind 'traffic issues'.
Stupid comment.

One Enoch Powell was no racist. Read your history, take a look at Syria and Iraq which clearly shows the logic of the fundamental side of a certain religion... And FFS do you see anyone too scared to leave their house because they are too scared stiff to bump into a Muslim?

Again... no racism from myself but the truth of the matter and logical processes. Islamophobia is a BS word invented by those who wish to ram home political correctness to a less than awake public.
[quote][p][bold]TilerJ[/bold] wrote: Rivers of blood? Have you heard yourselves? You're inciting violence with your words, but I think that's exactly what you're after. At least the muslims followed the due process. And your islamophobic personalities isn't a valid reason to oppose a building even if you keep trying to hide behind 'traffic issues'.[/p][/quote]Stupid comment. One Enoch Powell was no racist. Read your history, take a look at Syria and Iraq which clearly shows the logic of the fundamental side of a certain religion... And FFS do you see anyone too scared to leave their house because they are too scared stiff to bump into a Muslim? Again... no racism from myself but the truth of the matter and logical processes. Islamophobia is a BS word invented by those who wish to ram home political correctness to a less than awake public. Beyond News Forum
  • Score: 12

10:21am Fri 4 Jul 14

V Meldrew says...

If it is for the community as they say, then how about all the community attend for as long as possible including the objectors without intimidation of course 'just attend', me thinks some will be barred if they are white.
I think it would be a bit full.
At the end of the day you can attend any Church/Community Centre you wish as long as you behave yourself.
If it is for the community as they say, then how about all the community attend for as long as possible including the objectors without intimidation of course 'just attend', me thinks some will be barred if they are white. I think it would be a bit full. At the end of the day you can attend any Church/Community Centre you wish as long as you behave yourself. V Meldrew
  • Score: -12

10:28am Fri 4 Jul 14

Beyond News Forum says...

JustBecause wrote:
did-i-just-say-that wrote:
What a disgrace! Absolute travesty! And I'm not talking about the mosque!

Just look at that knuckle dragging chav with his Stone Island hoodie kicking chairs over because he didn't get his way!

I hope this video footage leads to a prosecution under a public order laws!
Why the negatives for this comment, these scum bags should have been arrested, this is no way to try to get your point across, morons and racist benefit scum.

Sure protest, do something, , but at least have a reason, other than your a racist scum bag with the intellect of a pot frog.

Fingers crossed for criminal charges.
What is racist is segregating yourself from the indigenous populous of a town/country. Actually this would be Chritianophobia, Whiteophobia, Catholicophobia, Jewophobia etc... Islamophobia... that is so funny!!!

You cannot be racist about a mosque. LOL
[quote][p][bold]JustBecause[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]did-i-just-say-that[/bold] wrote: What a disgrace! Absolute travesty! And I'm not talking about the mosque! Just look at that knuckle dragging chav with his Stone Island hoodie kicking chairs over because he didn't get his way! I hope this video footage leads to a prosecution under a public order laws![/p][/quote]Why the negatives for this comment, these scum bags should have been arrested, this is no way to try to get your point across, morons and racist benefit scum. Sure protest, do something, , but at least have a reason, other than your a racist scum bag with the intellect of a pot frog. Fingers crossed for criminal charges.[/p][/quote]What is racist is segregating yourself from the indigenous populous of a town/country. Actually this would be Chritianophobia, Whiteophobia, Catholicophobia, Jewophobia etc... Islamophobia... that is so funny!!! You cannot be racist about a mosque. LOL Beyond News Forum
  • Score: 2

10:34am Fri 4 Jul 14

johnnyjackson says...

pradagucci wrote:
lushcreep wrote:
I feel unsafe enough as it is. Walking by the mosque and around Halliwell, i get harassed and shamed by local residents for how I dress- which is perfectly normal for a British girl. I feel as if I'm not in England anymore. Not to mention it taking 1hr to get from town centre to Belmont road during mosque times, because the traffic is so terrible there at the moment. Considering moving to another town, but god knows, it will probably end up like this all over England
You get harassed and shamed? whatever lush, what are you miss bolton? no one stops you dressing the way you want, you dress the way the media and society dictate fashion, even if your uncomfortable, no one throws abuse at you daily so stop talking rubbish. why is it the mosques fault that theres loads of traffic? just like its bwfc fault that its mayhem when its football match? i remember when it was on manchester road, that was even a bigger joke.
Dont forget Bolton schools fault for the traffic at school times across the nearby roads.
[quote][p][bold]pradagucci[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lushcreep[/bold] wrote: I feel unsafe enough as it is. Walking by the mosque and around Halliwell, i get harassed and shamed by local residents for how I dress- which is perfectly normal for a British girl. I feel as if I'm not in England anymore. Not to mention it taking 1hr to get from town centre to Belmont road during mosque times, because the traffic is so terrible there at the moment. Considering moving to another town, but god knows, it will probably end up like this all over England[/p][/quote]You get harassed and shamed? whatever lush, what are you miss bolton? no one stops you dressing the way you want, you dress the way the media and society dictate fashion, even if your uncomfortable, no one throws abuse at you daily so stop talking rubbish. why is it the mosques fault that theres loads of traffic? just like its bwfc fault that its mayhem when its football match? i remember when it was on manchester road, that was even a bigger joke.[/p][/quote]Dont forget Bolton schools fault for the traffic at school times across the nearby roads. johnnyjackson
  • Score: 17

11:17am Fri 4 Jul 14

JustBecause says...

Beyond News Forum wrote:
JustBecause wrote:
did-i-just-say-that wrote:
What a disgrace! Absolute travesty! And I'm not talking about the mosque!

Just look at that knuckle dragging chav with his Stone Island hoodie kicking chairs over because he didn't get his way!

I hope this video footage leads to a prosecution under a public order laws!
Why the negatives for this comment, these scum bags should have been arrested, this is no way to try to get your point across, morons and racist benefit scum.

Sure protest, do something, , but at least have a reason, other than your a racist scum bag with the intellect of a pot frog.

Fingers crossed for criminal charges.
What is racist is segregating yourself from the indigenous populous of a town/country. Actually this would be Chritianophobia, Whiteophobia, Catholicophobia, Jewophobia etc... Islamophobia... that is so funny!!!

You cannot be racist about a mosque. LOL
Grow up and stop trying to be smart, you fail every time. The scumbags who were involved are out and out racist, their view and protest has nothing to do with a building, they are just brainless scum.

Most will be unable to read the reports and make judgments regarding planning,they just see what they class as non british putting up another building.

As I said, hopefully prosecutions will follow.
[quote][p][bold]Beyond News Forum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JustBecause[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]did-i-just-say-that[/bold] wrote: What a disgrace! Absolute travesty! And I'm not talking about the mosque! Just look at that knuckle dragging chav with his Stone Island hoodie kicking chairs over because he didn't get his way! I hope this video footage leads to a prosecution under a public order laws![/p][/quote]Why the negatives for this comment, these scum bags should have been arrested, this is no way to try to get your point across, morons and racist benefit scum. Sure protest, do something, , but at least have a reason, other than your a racist scum bag with the intellect of a pot frog. Fingers crossed for criminal charges.[/p][/quote]What is racist is segregating yourself from the indigenous populous of a town/country. Actually this would be Chritianophobia, Whiteophobia, Catholicophobia, Jewophobia etc... Islamophobia... that is so funny!!! You cannot be racist about a mosque. LOL[/p][/quote]Grow up and stop trying to be smart, you fail every time. The scumbags who were involved are out and out racist, their view and protest has nothing to do with a building, they are just brainless scum. Most will be unable to read the reports and make judgments regarding planning,they just see what they class as non british putting up another building. As I said, hopefully prosecutions will follow. JustBecause
  • Score: 18

11:19am Fri 4 Jul 14

JustBecause says...

As a side note, I don't think it should be built, purely for reasons of aesthetics, public access and environmental impact. Nothing to do with the intended used.
As a side note, I don't think it should be built, purely for reasons of aesthetics, public access and environmental impact. Nothing to do with the intended used. JustBecause
  • Score: 1

11:28am Fri 4 Jul 14

DAUBHILL85 says...

johnnyjackson says... You should be locked up pal for preaching hatred and admitting to your racism....

1. I'm not your pal
2. I'm not preaching any hatred, I merely said I can see it happening.
3. And if you think I should be locked up, then what about the abu hamzas of this country and others like him on street corners with their megaphones ...now that is preaching hatred and inciting murder.
johnnyjackson says... You should be locked up pal for preaching hatred and admitting to your racism.... 1. I'm not your pal 2. I'm not preaching any hatred, I merely said I can see it happening. 3. And if you think I should be locked up, then what about the abu hamzas of this country and others like him on street corners with their megaphones ...now that is preaching hatred and inciting murder. DAUBHILL85
  • Score: -3

11:30am Fri 4 Jul 14

mattaiuseire says...

If you look at the majority of the people that turned up on that day to protest, and the few people that turned up yesterday at the council meeting, you'll notice a similarity in the people, mostly skin headed working class backgrounds with limited educational capacity and intellectual ability, the EDL type, who simply don't want an ethnic minority taking over their town.

Whether or not this is the right or wrong attitude is debatable, but the only real grounds they had to challenge the plans are because of "traffic congestion", which is typical from people who just simply have no real grounds to object other than deep down in this instance they are racist and they believe they have a God given right to refute any plans that are based around a religion or a way of life that they don't agree with, even though, it's our God given inalienable right to live our life as we see fit as long as it doesn't cause harm to anyone else. That is the real law of the land.

Don't forget that most of these Muslims were born here, in this town or in this country, just like the EDL supporters, nobody has a choice, and nobody has a choice of how they're brought up, some people are brought up with radical beliefs, someone people are brought up to have no beliefs, some people are brought up to have the mental capacity to decide for themselves what is best for them.

As a Bolton born, white male with no religion and some sort of level headed rational, I find it very strange that protestors would assume there is a risk of Muslims in Bolton or even in the UK of these mosques being the homing grounds of extreme Islamic radicalisation, when there are less than 2 million Muslims living in the whole of the UK - there is more chance of England winning the World Cup 3 times on the bounce.
If you look at the majority of the people that turned up on that day to protest, and the few people that turned up yesterday at the council meeting, you'll notice a similarity in the people, mostly skin headed working class backgrounds with limited educational capacity and intellectual ability, the EDL type, who simply don't want an ethnic minority taking over their town. Whether or not this is the right or wrong attitude is debatable, but the only real grounds they had to challenge the plans are because of "traffic congestion", which is typical from people who just simply have no real grounds to object other than deep down in this instance they are racist and they believe they have a God given right to refute any plans that are based around a religion or a way of life that they don't agree with, even though, it's our God given inalienable right to live our life as we see fit as long as it doesn't cause harm to anyone else. That is the real law of the land. Don't forget that most of these Muslims were born here, in this town or in this country, just like the EDL supporters, nobody has a choice, and nobody has a choice of how they're brought up, some people are brought up with radical beliefs, someone people are brought up to have no beliefs, some people are brought up to have the mental capacity to decide for themselves what is best for them. As a Bolton born, white male with no religion and some sort of level headed rational, I find it very strange that protestors would assume there is a risk of Muslims in Bolton or even in the UK of these mosques being the homing grounds of extreme Islamic radicalisation, when there are less than 2 million Muslims living in the whole of the UK - there is more chance of England winning the World Cup 3 times on the bounce. mattaiuseire
  • Score: 34

11:33am Fri 4 Jul 14

Zak_King says...

All this mention about traffic, well lets not forget there are more cars in the UK than ever. Every household in my area has on average 2 cars per house and i live in a terrace so imagine the chaos for parking or peak times.

So blaming traffic just because of new buildings/mosques is idiotic.

As for the need of a mosque, well they use them, which is less said about churches the better. Also its just an extension rather than a new mosque in the area so traffic should be just as chaotic as it has been for many years. simples.

ps: Islam has many denominations as they follow different school of thoughts, which is why they need seperate mosques to practice in. And NO they are not all terrorists or have an evil agenda. We should also look at why many kids from the asian culture/faiths do well in education/life compared to the racist yobs we have, who have no respect, education, sense or understanding of being British.
All this mention about traffic, well lets not forget there are more cars in the UK than ever. Every household in my area has on average 2 cars per house and i live in a terrace so imagine the chaos for parking or peak times. So blaming traffic just because of new buildings/mosques is idiotic. As for the need of a mosque, well they use them, which is less said about churches the better. Also its just an extension rather than a new mosque in the area so traffic should be just as chaotic as it has been for many years. simples. ps: Islam has many denominations as they follow different school of thoughts, which is why they need seperate mosques to practice in. And NO they are not all terrorists or have an evil agenda. We should also look at why many kids from the asian culture/faiths do well in education/life compared to the racist yobs we have, who have no respect, education, sense or understanding of being British. Zak_King
  • Score: 33

11:49am Fri 4 Jul 14

TheJust1 says...

Typical bunch of racist/bigoted thugs made up of hooligans who wants to get their way by threats, intimidation and bullying who do not respect the legal process but yet want the ethnic minorities and especially the muslim community to conform to the British way of life. Is this the example to lead by. The vast majority of indeginous british people are law abiding citizens but these thugs are giving the whole country a bad name by behaving in this manner. As host we should be setting a good example by displaying the moral high ground if we are to win people over to our persuasion. As a matter of fact this group of people and their sympathisers have nothing or very little positive things to say about foreigners and especially the muslims. These thugs have nothing or very little positive things to say or contribute in respect of dealing with problems that we as the British people face on our daily lives, yet when it comes to the muslims issues their emotions become highly charged and highly opinionated and this is because of their hatred or lack of knowledge of the Islamic faith. These people they say that they are protecting the British and the Christian way of life by so called extremist who want to sneak in Islam through the back door. These group of people equate Islam with violence. Let me enlightened them that the Jewish/Christian Bible give several unambiguous verses relating to mass murder and paedophilia. I will present a passage of the Bible then follow it up with few of the references so that they can check up the Bible or search the web by typing in massacres and paedophilia in the Bible if they are genuine seekers of truth, fairness and justice. "They fought against Midian, as the Lord commanded Moses, and kill every man, Now kill all the boys And now kill every woman who have slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has not slept with a man". (female babies/toddlers and virgin girls) Numbers chapter 31 verse 7, 17-18. Further references Deuteronomy chapter 20 verse 16, Samuel chapter 15 verse 2-4, Psalms chapter 137 verse 8-9. These are just a few examples, one would find countless examples from the Bible the God given book of the Jews and Christians on which people swear oath in the court by and the religion these groups of people are defending. Before they attack the muslim community over the paedophile gangs they should first deal with their own indeginous people the priests, Knowle Park School in Rochdale with Cyril Smith connection, the likes of Jimmy Saville and Rolf Harris, the Police, the criminal justice system and last and not the least the Government owned BBC who did nothing about all these abuses then deal with the muslim community. First get our own house in order. I doubt these people will challenge the establishment because all they want to target is the muslims first then other minority groups. They are full of double standards why because they are racist but they hide their racism under the guise of patriotism. By the way Anders Bervick the Norwegion mass murderer considered himself a Christian with connections to the Far-Right. The British way of life which they so passionately defend makes it LEGAL FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE SEX WITH ANIMALS. WITH SUCH IDEALS HOW CAN WE HAVE THE MORAL HIGH GROUND. WILL WE EVER GET TAKEN SERIOUSLY. THINK CAREFULLY BEFORE WE START ESPOUSING BRITISHNESS THE JOKE IS ON US. THOSE WHO LIVE IN GLASS HOUSES SHOULD NOT BE THROWING STONES AT OTHER PEOPLES HOUSES.
Typical bunch of racist/bigoted thugs made up of hooligans who wants to get their way by threats, intimidation and bullying who do not respect the legal process but yet want the ethnic minorities and especially the muslim community to conform to the British way of life. Is this the example to lead by. The vast majority of indeginous british people are law abiding citizens but these thugs are giving the whole country a bad name by behaving in this manner. As host we should be setting a good example by displaying the moral high ground if we are to win people over to our persuasion. As a matter of fact this group of people and their sympathisers have nothing or very little positive things to say about foreigners and especially the muslims. These thugs have nothing or very little positive things to say or contribute in respect of dealing with problems that we as the British people face on our daily lives, yet when it comes to the muslims issues their emotions become highly charged and highly opinionated and this is because of their hatred or lack of knowledge of the Islamic faith. These people they say that they are protecting the British and the Christian way of life by so called extremist who want to sneak in Islam through the back door. These group of people equate Islam with violence. Let me enlightened them that the Jewish/Christian Bible give several unambiguous verses relating to mass murder and paedophilia. I will present a passage of the Bible then follow it up with few of the references so that they can check up the Bible or search the web by typing in massacres and paedophilia in the Bible if they are genuine seekers of truth, fairness and justice. "They fought against Midian, as the Lord commanded Moses, and kill every man, Now kill all the boys And now kill every woman who have slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has not slept with a man". (female babies/toddlers and virgin girls) Numbers chapter 31 verse 7, 17-18. Further references Deuteronomy chapter 20 verse 16, Samuel chapter 15 verse 2-4, Psalms chapter 137 verse 8-9. These are just a few examples, one would find countless examples from the Bible the God given book of the Jews and Christians on which people swear oath in the court by and the religion these groups of people are defending. Before they attack the muslim community over the paedophile gangs they should first deal with their own indeginous people the priests, Knowle Park School in Rochdale with Cyril Smith connection, the likes of Jimmy Saville and Rolf Harris, the Police, the criminal justice system and last and not the least the Government owned BBC who did nothing about all these abuses then deal with the muslim community. First get our own house in order. I doubt these people will challenge the establishment because all they want to target is the muslims first then other minority groups. They are full of double standards why because they are racist but they hide their racism under the guise of patriotism. By the way Anders Bervick the Norwegion mass murderer considered himself a Christian with connections to the Far-Right. The British way of life which they so passionately defend makes it LEGAL FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE SEX WITH ANIMALS. WITH SUCH IDEALS HOW CAN WE HAVE THE MORAL HIGH GROUND. WILL WE EVER GET TAKEN SERIOUSLY. THINK CAREFULLY BEFORE WE START ESPOUSING BRITISHNESS THE JOKE IS ON US. THOSE WHO LIVE IN GLASS HOUSES SHOULD NOT BE THROWING STONES AT OTHER PEOPLES HOUSES. TheJust1
  • Score: 1

11:53am Fri 4 Jul 14

johnnyjackson says...

mattaiuseire wrote:
If you look at the majority of the people that turned up on that day to protest, and the few people that turned up yesterday at the council meeting, you'll notice a similarity in the people, mostly skin headed working class backgrounds with limited educational capacity and intellectual ability, the EDL type, who simply don't want an ethnic minority taking over their town.

Whether or not this is the right or wrong attitude is debatable, but the only real grounds they had to challenge the plans are because of "traffic congestion", which is typical from people who just simply have no real grounds to object other than deep down in this instance they are racist and they believe they have a God given right to refute any plans that are based around a religion or a way of life that they don't agree with, even though, it's our God given inalienable right to live our life as we see fit as long as it doesn't cause harm to anyone else. That is the real law of the land.

Don't forget that most of these Muslims were born here, in this town or in this country, just like the EDL supporters, nobody has a choice, and nobody has a choice of how they're brought up, some people are brought up with radical beliefs, someone people are brought up to have no beliefs, some people are brought up to have the mental capacity to decide for themselves what is best for them.

As a Bolton born, white male with no religion and some sort of level headed rational, I find it very strange that protestors would assume there is a risk of Muslims in Bolton or even in the UK of these mosques being the homing grounds of extreme Islamic radicalisation, when there are less than 2 million Muslims living in the whole of the UK - there is more chance of England winning the World Cup 3 times on the bounce.
Well put...
[quote][p][bold]mattaiuseire[/bold] wrote: If you look at the majority of the people that turned up on that day to protest, and the few people that turned up yesterday at the council meeting, you'll notice a similarity in the people, mostly skin headed working class backgrounds with limited educational capacity and intellectual ability, the EDL type, who simply don't want an ethnic minority taking over their town. Whether or not this is the right or wrong attitude is debatable, but the only real grounds they had to challenge the plans are because of "traffic congestion", which is typical from people who just simply have no real grounds to object other than deep down in this instance they are racist and they believe they have a God given right to refute any plans that are based around a religion or a way of life that they don't agree with, even though, it's our God given inalienable right to live our life as we see fit as long as it doesn't cause harm to anyone else. That is the real law of the land. Don't forget that most of these Muslims were born here, in this town or in this country, just like the EDL supporters, nobody has a choice, and nobody has a choice of how they're brought up, some people are brought up with radical beliefs, someone people are brought up to have no beliefs, some people are brought up to have the mental capacity to decide for themselves what is best for them. As a Bolton born, white male with no religion and some sort of level headed rational, I find it very strange that protestors would assume there is a risk of Muslims in Bolton or even in the UK of these mosques being the homing grounds of extreme Islamic radicalisation, when there are less than 2 million Muslims living in the whole of the UK - there is more chance of England winning the World Cup 3 times on the bounce.[/p][/quote]Well put... johnnyjackson
  • Score: 5

12:01pm Fri 4 Jul 14

DAUBHILL85 says...

Lots of deleted comments again by many posters - and they say we live in a democracy...yes right, it's all political correctness and pandering to the minorities on here.
Lots of deleted comments again by many posters - and they say we live in a democracy...yes right, it's all political correctness and pandering to the minorities on here. DAUBHILL85
  • Score: 12

12:51pm Fri 4 Jul 14

DAUBHILL85 says...

johnnyjackson says... If you disagree entirely, what do you claim to be? A non racist, peace lover?

I am what I am - we are what we are, none of us are perfect.
johnnyjackson says... If you disagree entirely, what do you claim to be? A non racist, peace lover? I am what I am - we are what we are, none of us are perfect. DAUBHILL85
  • Score: 3

12:56pm Fri 4 Jul 14

michaelg19 says...

stil no answer on traffic and unsafe crossing, and to say no more people will be using it why is it bigger? Just not answering the questions local residents want to know/

Whats being done about the traffic currently already bad and whilst being built, whats being done for the safety of people crossing the road?

Surely there needs to be a proper review, Looks like proper consideration hasn't been given. Lets wait and see... if traffic gets worse and more people are crossing in the middle of the road then the MPs and Council will have to answer to it.
stil no answer on traffic and unsafe crossing, and to say no more people will be using it why is it bigger? Just not answering the questions local residents want to know/ Whats being done about the traffic currently already bad and whilst being built, whats being done for the safety of people crossing the road? Surely there needs to be a proper review, Looks like proper consideration hasn't been given. Lets wait and see... if traffic gets worse and more people are crossing in the middle of the road then the MPs and Council will have to answer to it. michaelg19
  • Score: 2

12:57pm Fri 4 Jul 14

johnnyjackson says...

DAUBHILL85 wrote:
johnnyjackson says... If you disagree entirely, what do you claim to be? A non racist, peace lover?

I am what I am - we are what we are, none of us are perfect.
Thank you for admitting you are what you are.... We know what that is as admitted by yourself.
[quote][p][bold]DAUBHILL85[/bold] wrote: johnnyjackson says... If you disagree entirely, what do you claim to be? A non racist, peace lover? I am what I am - we are what we are, none of us are perfect.[/p][/quote]Thank you for admitting you are what you are.... We know what that is as admitted by yourself. johnnyjackson
  • Score: 2

1:07pm Fri 4 Jul 14

Julian Thorpe says...

DAUBHILL85 wrote:
Lots of deleted comments again by many posters - and they say we live in a democracy...yes right, it's all political correctness and pandering to the minorities on here.
This list isn't comprehensive, but as a guide, if we get complaints, we're likely to remove anything that is:

Personally abusive
Racist
Threatening
Libelous
Criminal
Offensive
Contains swearing

The rules are simple. Follow them and your posts won't be deleted. Repeat offenders will be banned.
[quote][p][bold]DAUBHILL85[/bold] wrote: Lots of deleted comments again by many posters - and they say we live in a democracy...yes right, it's all political correctness and pandering to the minorities on here.[/p][/quote]This list isn't comprehensive, but as a guide, if we get complaints, we're likely to remove anything that is: Personally abusive Racist Threatening Libelous Criminal Offensive Contains swearing The rules are simple. Follow them and your posts won't be deleted. Repeat offenders will be banned. Julian Thorpe
  • Score: 11

1:14pm Fri 4 Jul 14

DAUBHILL85 says...

johnnyjackson wrote:
DAUBHILL85 wrote:
johnnyjackson says... If you disagree entirely, what do you claim to be? A non racist, peace lover?

I am what I am - we are what we are, none of us are perfect.
Thank you for admitting you are what you are.... We know what that is as admitted by yourself.
WHICH IS THIS - I am sick to death at the state of this country and what various governments have allowed it to get into regarding immigration which has gone uncontrolled for 50 years or more and still continuing now.
And low and behold It has now become a dumping ground for third world countries, daubhil, deane ,great lever is now being overrun with mostly African citizens milking our welfare system, housing, schools, nhs ( IT SHOULD BE RENAMED IHS- INTERNATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE)
Not to mention half of Europe being here too, it's our benefits and free housing, free schools, free nhs, etc,etc that is the main attraction here, there's no doubt about it.
Does that annoy me or make me racist ?
[quote][p][bold]johnnyjackson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DAUBHILL85[/bold] wrote: johnnyjackson says... If you disagree entirely, what do you claim to be? A non racist, peace lover? I am what I am - we are what we are, none of us are perfect.[/p][/quote]Thank you for admitting you are what you are.... We know what that is as admitted by yourself.[/p][/quote]WHICH IS THIS - I am sick to death at the state of this country and what various governments have allowed it to get into regarding immigration which has gone uncontrolled for 50 years or more and still continuing now. And low and behold It has now become a dumping ground for third world countries, daubhil, deane ,great lever is now being overrun with mostly African citizens milking our welfare system, housing, schools, nhs ( IT SHOULD BE RENAMED IHS- INTERNATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE) Not to mention half of Europe being here too, it's our benefits and free housing, free schools, free nhs, etc,etc that is the main attraction here, there's no doubt about it. Does that annoy me or make me racist ? DAUBHILL85
  • Score: 13

1:17pm Fri 4 Jul 14

DAUBHILL85 says...

Julian Thorpe wrote:
DAUBHILL85 wrote:
Lots of deleted comments again by many posters - and they say we live in a democracy...yes right, it's all political correctness and pandering to the minorities on here.
This list isn't comprehensive, but as a guide, if we get complaints, we're likely to remove anything that is:

Personally abusive
Racist
Threatening
Libelous
Criminal
Offensive
Contains swearing

The rules are simple. Follow them and your posts won't be deleted. Repeat offenders will be banned.
Ok thanks Julian for posting that.
[quote][p][bold]Julian Thorpe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DAUBHILL85[/bold] wrote: Lots of deleted comments again by many posters - and they say we live in a democracy...yes right, it's all political correctness and pandering to the minorities on here.[/p][/quote]This list isn't comprehensive, but as a guide, if we get complaints, we're likely to remove anything that is: Personally abusive Racist Threatening Libelous Criminal Offensive Contains swearing The rules are simple. Follow them and your posts won't be deleted. Repeat offenders will be banned.[/p][/quote]Ok thanks Julian for posting that. DAUBHILL85
  • Score: 0

1:31pm Fri 4 Jul 14

k-far@hotmail.com says...

Where is the freedom of religions in my country apposite the mosque is a church and people live together in harmony we are in civilized world so please let the plan carry on ,it is for the benefit of all community.
Where is the freedom of religions in my country apposite the mosque is a church and people live together in harmony we are in civilized world so please let the plan carry on ,it is for the benefit of all community. k-far@hotmail.com
  • Score: 6

1:32pm Fri 4 Jul 14

TheOneTrueWord says...

Reed Lover wrote:
Just a load of racist ranting and Islamaphobia from feckless louts and chavvy women as usual. I'd rather look at a mosque on every street corner than let this scum think they are representing the views of the people of Bolton with their bigotry and thuggery.
I can think of 5 "Christian" church buildings in Astley Bridge off the top of my head, any ideas as to why we needed 5?
Ummmm perhaps because Britain is and certainly was a Christian Country...
[quote][p][bold]Reed Lover[/bold] wrote: Just a load of racist ranting and Islamaphobia from feckless louts and chavvy women as usual. I'd rather look at a mosque on every street corner than let this scum think they are representing the views of the people of Bolton with their bigotry and thuggery. I can think of 5 "Christian" church buildings in Astley Bridge off the top of my head, any ideas as to why we needed 5?[/p][/quote]Ummmm perhaps because Britain is and certainly was a Christian Country... TheOneTrueWord
  • Score: 1

1:48pm Fri 4 Jul 14

mattaiuseire says...

TheOneTrueWord wrote:
Reed Lover wrote:
Just a load of racist ranting and Islamaphobia from feckless louts and chavvy women as usual. I'd rather look at a mosque on every street corner than let this scum think they are representing the views of the people of Bolton with their bigotry and thuggery.
I can think of 5 "Christian" church buildings in Astley Bridge off the top of my head, any ideas as to why we needed 5?
Ummmm perhaps because Britain is and certainly was a Christian Country...
Predominantly yes but times can and do change.

Not so long ago we thought the Earth was flat.
If I'd have told you 150 years ago that some day soon I will be able to speak to and see you from the other side of the world at the press of a button on a handheld device you would have told me I was crazy.
[quote][p][bold]TheOneTrueWord[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Reed Lover[/bold] wrote: Just a load of racist ranting and Islamaphobia from feckless louts and chavvy women as usual. I'd rather look at a mosque on every street corner than let this scum think they are representing the views of the people of Bolton with their bigotry and thuggery. I can think of 5 "Christian" church buildings in Astley Bridge off the top of my head, any ideas as to why we needed 5?[/p][/quote]Ummmm perhaps because Britain is and certainly was a Christian Country...[/p][/quote]Predominantly yes but times can and do change. Not so long ago we thought the Earth was flat. If I'd have told you 150 years ago that some day soon I will be able to speak to and see you from the other side of the world at the press of a button on a handheld device you would have told me I was crazy. mattaiuseire
  • Score: 1

1:59pm Fri 4 Jul 14

Michael Collins71 says...

What I want to know is, what this issue has got to do with a small group of people who live in breightmet but aren't actually from Bolton & another hanger on from Lancashire who is also not a Bolton resident?

People from Astley Bridge are quite entitled to object. Sadly the real concerns outlined by real residents have been over shadowed by the thuggish behaviour of some of the people who attended yesterday's meeting.

Objecting to any building religious or otherwise does not make you a racist or an islamaphobe if you have a genuine reason and are a resident of the effected area.

When you are not a resident to the effected area and you are associated with various right wing extremist organisations, then not only do you not have a say in these matters but you are also possibly harming relations for residents in the area. In a nutshell, it's nothing to do with you so stop hijacking other peoples issues in order to stir up hate.
What I want to know is, what this issue has got to do with a small group of people who live in breightmet but aren't actually from Bolton & another hanger on from Lancashire who is also not a Bolton resident? People from Astley Bridge are quite entitled to object. Sadly the real concerns outlined by real residents have been over shadowed by the thuggish behaviour of some of the people who attended yesterday's meeting. Objecting to any building religious or otherwise does not make you a racist or an islamaphobe if you have a genuine reason and are a resident of the effected area. When you are not a resident to the effected area and you are associated with various right wing extremist organisations, then not only do you not have a say in these matters but you are also possibly harming relations for residents in the area. In a nutshell, it's nothing to do with you so stop hijacking other peoples issues in order to stir up hate. Michael Collins71
  • Score: 21

2:26pm Fri 4 Jul 14

Comment777 says...

DAUBHILL85 wrote:
Julian Thorpe wrote:
DAUBHILL85 wrote:
Lots of deleted comments again by many posters - and they say we live in a democracy...yes right, it's all political correctness and pandering to the minorities on here.
This list isn't comprehensive, but as a guide, if we get complaints, we're likely to remove anything that is:

Personally abusive
Racist
Threatening
Libelous
Criminal
Offensive
Contains swearing

The rules are simple. Follow them and your posts won't be deleted. Repeat offenders will be banned.
Ok thanks Julian for posting that.
The building of this mosque is criminal as the legal democratic process has not been adhered to...
[quote][p][bold]DAUBHILL85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Julian Thorpe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DAUBHILL85[/bold] wrote: Lots of deleted comments again by many posters - and they say we live in a democracy...yes right, it's all political correctness and pandering to the minorities on here.[/p][/quote]This list isn't comprehensive, but as a guide, if we get complaints, we're likely to remove anything that is: Personally abusive Racist Threatening Libelous Criminal Offensive Contains swearing The rules are simple. Follow them and your posts won't be deleted. Repeat offenders will be banned.[/p][/quote]Ok thanks Julian for posting that.[/p][/quote]The building of this mosque is criminal as the legal democratic process has not been adhered to... Comment777
  • Score: -10

2:34pm Fri 4 Jul 14

Comment777 says...

ChristPMossie wrote:
I see that kid with with the red Jacket shouting NATIONAL FRONT is national front racist Tom Nelson from Seaforth Road Astley Bridge who is already facing charges for his racism and violent behaviour.

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It is persons who are willing to stand up against the threat who will protect your children's children from being burned, stabbed, racially abused, made to wear only accepted clothing, forced into unsolicited relationships and made to live in constant distress should they dishonour their family or partner...for which the penalty will be death by stoning and no person or persons would be held accountable in fact the perpetrators of the killing will be celebrated as a hero or heroes...
[quote][p][bold]ChristPMossie[/bold] wrote: I see that kid with with the red Jacket shouting NATIONAL FRONT is national front racist Tom Nelson from Seaforth Road Astley Bridge who is already facing charges for his racism and violent behaviour. http://www.thebolton news.co.uk/news/crim e/11029227.Bolton_Cr imewatch_suspect_cha rged_after_EDL_prote st_in_Birmingham/?re f=nt[/p][/quote]It is persons who are willing to stand up against the threat who will protect your children's children from being burned, stabbed, racially abused, made to wear only accepted clothing, forced into unsolicited relationships and made to live in constant distress should they dishonour their family or partner...for which the penalty will be death by stoning and no person or persons would be held accountable in fact the perpetrators of the killing will be celebrated as a hero or heroes... Comment777
  • Score: -6

2:41pm Fri 4 Jul 14

johnnyjackson says...

DAUBHILL85 wrote:
johnnyjackson wrote:
DAUBHILL85 wrote:
johnnyjackson says... If you disagree entirely, what do you claim to be? A non racist, peace lover?

I am what I am - we are what we are, none of us are perfect.
Thank you for admitting you are what you are.... We know what that is as admitted by yourself.
WHICH IS THIS - I am sick to death at the state of this country and what various governments have allowed it to get into regarding immigration which has gone uncontrolled for 50 years or more and still continuing now.
And low and behold It has now become a dumping ground for third world countries, daubhil, deane ,great lever is now being overrun with mostly African citizens milking our welfare system, housing, schools, nhs ( IT SHOULD BE RENAMED IHS- INTERNATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE)
Not to mention half of Europe being here too, it's our benefits and free housing, free schools, free nhs, etc,etc that is the main attraction here, there's no doubt about it.
Does that annoy me or make me racist ?
Make your mind up pal. One minute you admit your racist then you question whether or not your racist.

All this is too much for you and goes well above your head. Give up now before you have a heart attack.
[quote][p][bold]DAUBHILL85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]johnnyjackson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DAUBHILL85[/bold] wrote: johnnyjackson says... If you disagree entirely, what do you claim to be? A non racist, peace lover? I am what I am - we are what we are, none of us are perfect.[/p][/quote]Thank you for admitting you are what you are.... We know what that is as admitted by yourself.[/p][/quote]WHICH IS THIS - I am sick to death at the state of this country and what various governments have allowed it to get into regarding immigration which has gone uncontrolled for 50 years or more and still continuing now. And low and behold It has now become a dumping ground for third world countries, daubhil, deane ,great lever is now being overrun with mostly African citizens milking our welfare system, housing, schools, nhs ( IT SHOULD BE RENAMED IHS- INTERNATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE) Not to mention half of Europe being here too, it's our benefits and free housing, free schools, free nhs, etc,etc that is the main attraction here, there's no doubt about it. Does that annoy me or make me racist ?[/p][/quote]Make your mind up pal. One minute you admit your racist then you question whether or not your racist. All this is too much for you and goes well above your head. Give up now before you have a heart attack. johnnyjackson
  • Score: -4

2:44pm Fri 4 Jul 14

Comment777 says...

Beyond News Forum wrote:
Dobbo1973 wrote:
It's a travesty point one they say its only replacing the old building but it will hold 300 more people. Point two I read that somebody got there extension turned down for being to imposing. I suppose towers and domes don't come into that bracket why can't the new building just blend in with everything else is there really a need for domes and towers as the existing building doesn't have them so I presume it's not important for the religious aspect maybe it's for the islamification of Bolton I think our town is being sold down the river and these so called councillors aren't thinking about the town and what it will be like in another 10/20 years. I'm already thinking of leaving its a joke
I predict a riot.
It is a result that can be predicted with certainty...butwho would win because the law would only support one side!
[quote][p][bold]Beyond News Forum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dobbo1973[/bold] wrote: It's a travesty point one they say its only replacing the old building but it will hold 300 more people. Point two I read that somebody got there extension turned down for being to imposing. I suppose towers and domes don't come into that bracket why can't the new building just blend in with everything else is there really a need for domes and towers as the existing building doesn't have them so I presume it's not important for the religious aspect maybe it's for the islamification of Bolton I think our town is being sold down the river and these so called councillors aren't thinking about the town and what it will be like in another 10/20 years. I'm already thinking of leaving its a joke[/p][/quote]I predict a riot.[/p][/quote]It is a result that can be predicted with certainty...butwho would win because the law would only support one side! Comment777
  • Score: 1

2:44pm Fri 4 Jul 14

Where'swally says...

I wonder if the Bolton Council owned CCTV car will be making an appearance at call to prayer times?????????? Doubtful!!!!! they'll happily obstruct traffic and impose fines outside of work places and schools, but you'll NEVER EVER EVER see one outside a Mosque.....
I wonder if the Bolton Council owned CCTV car will be making an appearance at call to prayer times?????????? Doubtful!!!!! they'll happily obstruct traffic and impose fines outside of work places and schools, but you'll NEVER EVER EVER see one outside a Mosque..... Where'swally
  • Score: 10

2:46pm Fri 4 Jul 14

Comment777 says...

lushcreep wrote:
I feel unsafe enough as it is. Walking by the mosque and around Halliwell, i get harassed and shamed by local residents for how I dress- which is perfectly normal for a British girl. I feel as if I'm not in England anymore. Not to mention it taking 1hr to get from town centre to Belmont road during mosque times, because the traffic is so terrible there at the moment. Considering moving to another town, but god knows, it will probably end up like this all over England
Report the harassment you suffer to the police each and every time it happens...
[quote][p][bold]lushcreep[/bold] wrote: I feel unsafe enough as it is. Walking by the mosque and around Halliwell, i get harassed and shamed by local residents for how I dress- which is perfectly normal for a British girl. I feel as if I'm not in England anymore. Not to mention it taking 1hr to get from town centre to Belmont road during mosque times, because the traffic is so terrible there at the moment. Considering moving to another town, but god knows, it will probably end up like this all over England[/p][/quote]Report the harassment you suffer to the police each and every time it happens... Comment777
  • Score: 3

2:47pm Fri 4 Jul 14

Beyond News Forum says...

JustBecause wrote:
Beyond News Forum wrote:
JustBecause wrote:
did-i-just-say-that wrote:
What a disgrace! Absolute travesty! And I'm not talking about the mosque!

Just look at that knuckle dragging chav with his Stone Island hoodie kicking chairs over because he didn't get his way!

I hope this video footage leads to a prosecution under a public order laws!
Why the negatives for this comment, these scum bags should have been arrested, this is no way to try to get your point across, morons and racist benefit scum.

Sure protest, do something, , but at least have a reason, other than your a racist scum bag with the intellect of a pot frog.

Fingers crossed for criminal charges.
What is racist is segregating yourself from the indigenous populous of a town/country. Actually this would be Chritianophobia, Whiteophobia, Catholicophobia, Jewophobia etc... Islamophobia... that is so funny!!!

You cannot be racist about a mosque. LOL
Grow up and stop trying to be smart, you fail every time. The scumbags who were involved are out and out racist, their view and protest has nothing to do with a building, they are just brainless scum.

Most will be unable to read the reports and make judgments regarding planning,they just see what they class as non british putting up another building.

As I said, hopefully prosecutions will follow.
You do not like the way wording can be flipped? I am smart, that is your fail JB. Life is certainly full of quagmires, this is a politically correct planning application bung... it really is as simple as that.

I repeat - you cannot be racist in regards the building of a Mosque. Should I be smart and state that the truth of the matter is that they are Mosquacist?

To tell you the truth, even if they do have a racism agenda many people in these parts are starting to listen... this is the fault of politics and foreign agenda... people are biting because social and religious ideologies are in complete conflict. A huge disaster is going to unfold.
[quote][p][bold]JustBecause[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Beyond News Forum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JustBecause[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]did-i-just-say-that[/bold] wrote: What a disgrace! Absolute travesty! And I'm not talking about the mosque! Just look at that knuckle dragging chav with his Stone Island hoodie kicking chairs over because he didn't get his way! I hope this video footage leads to a prosecution under a public order laws![/p][/quote]Why the negatives for this comment, these scum bags should have been arrested, this is no way to try to get your point across, morons and racist benefit scum. Sure protest, do something, , but at least have a reason, other than your a racist scum bag with the intellect of a pot frog. Fingers crossed for criminal charges.[/p][/quote]What is racist is segregating yourself from the indigenous populous of a town/country. Actually this would be Chritianophobia, Whiteophobia, Catholicophobia, Jewophobia etc... Islamophobia... that is so funny!!! You cannot be racist about a mosque. LOL[/p][/quote]Grow up and stop trying to be smart, you fail every time. The scumbags who were involved are out and out racist, their view and protest has nothing to do with a building, they are just brainless scum. Most will be unable to read the reports and make judgments regarding planning,they just see what they class as non british putting up another building. As I said, hopefully prosecutions will follow.[/p][/quote]You do not like the way wording can be flipped? I am smart, that is your fail JB. Life is certainly full of quagmires, this is a politically correct planning application bung... it really is as simple as that. I repeat - you cannot be racist in regards the building of a Mosque. Should I be smart and state that the truth of the matter is that they are Mosquacist? To tell you the truth, even if they do have a racism agenda many people in these parts are starting to listen... this is the fault of politics and foreign agenda... people are biting because social and religious ideologies are in complete conflict. A huge disaster is going to unfold. Beyond News Forum
  • Score: 2

2:47pm Fri 4 Jul 14

Comment777 says...

TilerJ wrote:
Rivers of blood? Have you heard yourselves? You're inciting violence with your words, but I think that's exactly what you're after. At least the muslims followed the due process. And your islamophobic personalities isn't a valid reason to oppose a building even if you keep trying to hide behind 'traffic issues'.
No ,they have not followed due process...
[quote][p][bold]TilerJ[/bold] wrote: Rivers of blood? Have you heard yourselves? You're inciting violence with your words, but I think that's exactly what you're after. At least the muslims followed the due process. And your islamophobic personalities isn't a valid reason to oppose a building even if you keep trying to hide behind 'traffic issues'.[/p][/quote]No ,they have not followed due process... Comment777
  • Score: 2

2:53pm Fri 4 Jul 14

labour out says...

catsden wrote:
The Council will not listen they just do what they want, with no consideration of the residents of Bolton who have lived here all their lives, I will never vote again, they are a right shower a complete waste of time. They just do hat they want. Like the Market Hall, Get rid of helot a child go do better. wouldn't pay them with washers, they get money for old rope
catsden, if you never vote again you will never stop the building of mosques. The only way to stop it is to vote the labour pupprters out!
[quote][p][bold]catsden[/bold] wrote: The Council will not listen they just do what they want, with no consideration of the residents of Bolton who have lived here all their lives, I will never vote again, they are a right shower a complete waste of time. They just do hat they want. Like the Market Hall, Get rid of helot a child go do better. wouldn't pay them with washers, they get money for old rope[/p][/quote]catsden, if you never vote again you will never stop the building of mosques. The only way to stop it is to vote the labour pupprters out! labour out
  • Score: 2

2:56pm Fri 4 Jul 14

Comment777 says...

thomas222 wrote:
mattaiuseire wrote:
joanne patricia openshaw sanders wrote:
Firstly let me say sorry for swearing at the meeting, i am not against anything being built to enhance the community but i do think this was a done deal not only does it affect Blackburn road traffic but also Halliwell road traffic. whichever road you go up during prayer time each road is just as busy it is only going to be a matter of time before someone is killed crossing any of the roads i have seen children as young as 5 and 6 having to cross Halliwell road after coming out of the Mosque and having to cross the road coming from behind parked cars.. At least they should have had the brains to do a proper report on both roads for the safety of everyone you only see half a story on here i thought phones were supposed to be switched off at these meetings seems it ok for some of the minority to video it and put it in the local paper showing it to be as one sided never mind the abuse one young woman had to endure whilst just passing to go to the ladies and the abuse came from a young man that was in favour of the mosque all i am saying is there are three sides to a story and you will never see things the same way everyone sees things differently and has their own opinions but it seems none of the councilors at the meeting live in Blackburn road or Halliwell so it wont affect them until someone is killed while crossing either road because of the congestion.
If that was the case then no buildings would be made at all. People do have to cross busy roads sometimes and the majority of people injured while crossing are hurt because they, not the drivers, were not paying attention.

I have no religion, but I respect peoples rights to believe whatever they want to. I'm not in favour of the mosque but at the same time using the old "schools for radicalisation" is just nonsense - I would urge anyone to provide proof on this absurd claim.
The majority of Muslims are very peaceful people, don't tar everyone with the same brush just because the media recites disinformation on every public broadcast.

What we need to be looking at is the real reason why those majority votes against were disregarded - we need to look at the puppets behind and what gain they get out of it.

As someone said already, those half witted inbreds that turn up throwing chairs and using coarse language are not the voice of the true people and protesting in this manner just shows what a bunch of jobsworths they really are. Vote with your feet.
After the 7/7 bombings the number of Majority peaceful Muslims you mention who took to the streets to protest against Minority Muslims killing in their name & the name of Islam was Zero. Three weeks later the same Majority peaceful Muslims you mention came on the streets in their thousands all over the Country & World because a newspaper printed some cartoons that offended them. Its not rocket science.
and how many peaceful muslims expressed their disgust at the butchering of an unarmed , off duty soldier in the middle of a busy street occupied by young families...NONE!!!!!
!!!!!!!

Wake up and don't just look but see what is happening!!
[quote][p][bold]thomas222[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mattaiuseire[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]joanne patricia openshaw sanders[/bold] wrote: Firstly let me say sorry for swearing at the meeting, i am not against anything being built to enhance the community but i do think this was a done deal not only does it affect Blackburn road traffic but also Halliwell road traffic. whichever road you go up during prayer time each road is just as busy it is only going to be a matter of time before someone is killed crossing any of the roads i have seen children as young as 5 and 6 having to cross Halliwell road after coming out of the Mosque and having to cross the road coming from behind parked cars.. At least they should have had the brains to do a proper report on both roads for the safety of everyone you only see half a story on here i thought phones were supposed to be switched off at these meetings seems it ok for some of the minority to video it and put it in the local paper showing it to be as one sided never mind the abuse one young woman had to endure whilst just passing to go to the ladies and the abuse came from a young man that was in favour of the mosque all i am saying is there are three sides to a story and you will never see things the same way everyone sees things differently and has their own opinions but it seems none of the councilors at the meeting live in Blackburn road or Halliwell so it wont affect them until someone is killed while crossing either road because of the congestion.[/p][/quote]If that was the case then no buildings would be made at all. People do have to cross busy roads sometimes and the majority of people injured while crossing are hurt because they, not the drivers, were not paying attention. I have no religion, but I respect peoples rights to believe whatever they want to. I'm not in favour of the mosque but at the same time using the old "schools for radicalisation" is just nonsense - I would urge anyone to provide proof on this absurd claim. The majority of Muslims are very peaceful people, don't tar everyone with the same brush just because the media recites disinformation on every public broadcast. What we need to be looking at is the real reason why those majority votes against were disregarded - we need to look at the puppets behind and what gain they get out of it. As someone said already, those half witted inbreds that turn up throwing chairs and using coarse language are not the voice of the true people and protesting in this manner just shows what a bunch of jobsworths they really are. Vote with your feet.[/p][/quote]After the 7/7 bombings the number of Majority peaceful Muslims you mention who took to the streets to protest against Minority Muslims killing in their name & the name of Islam was Zero. Three weeks later the same Majority peaceful Muslims you mention came on the streets in their thousands all over the Country & World because a newspaper printed some cartoons that offended them. Its not rocket science.[/p][/quote]and how many peaceful muslims expressed their disgust at the butchering of an unarmed , off duty soldier in the middle of a busy street occupied by young families...NONE!!!!! !!!!!!! Wake up and don't just look but see what is happening!! Comment777
  • Score: 0

2:58pm Fri 4 Jul 14

give_it_some_thought says...

I generally think that there is alot of information that has been misunderstood. Dont believe everything the media tells you about Islam. Go out and ask the questions yourself and you will find exactly the same as you do in all religions. There are those who are very strong and particular about what god has instructed to be done and said, however you get those who take the message in a completely different building. All in all in all beliefs there is a message that is interpreted by the person themselves. Most muslims are very open minded individuals, but yes you will find the arrogant ones. Just the same, there are christians who are great to talk to and ask them the right questions and you will get great answers. But again, even in Christianity, you will get those individuals who feel they can only react with anger.
If you live in a primarily mixed culture community you have to be open to the idea of a new mosque or church being built. Maybe if more people attended chruch then there would be a need to build another facility if the old building was not accomodating request.
Yes the traffic issue is a biggie, but is that an issue that will be resolved even if the mosque isnt built?? I think we need to understand that there are things that can be done to improve the flow of traffic and always has been but they havnt been looked at. To blame one building for a meltdown is ridiculous. Then on the otherhand, regardless of where you go there are roads that are always busy during rush hours etc.
To answer someones post about "Why does there need to be so many mosques", Muslims pray 5 times a day and as you can imagine there needs to be something within a reasonable distance of you residence. I understand how this can be frustrating at times, but unfortunately the mosques are there to meet the demands of the population as most folke walk to the mosque and as you can imagine, young kids and the old are not going to want to travel 5 times a day to a building miles away.
All in All my moto is to live and let live. Dont listen to all the media storms as they are always biased, and dont be afraid to ask people especialy muslims what they think. Yes, you may find people that dont agree with your thoughts and opinions, but isnt that the whole part of being a national with freedom of speech and individuality. We are all different.
I generally think that there is alot of information that has been misunderstood. Dont believe everything the media tells you about Islam. Go out and ask the questions yourself and you will find exactly the same as you do in all religions. There are those who are very strong and particular about what god has instructed to be done and said, however you get those who take the message in a completely different building. All in all in all beliefs there is a message that is interpreted by the person themselves. Most muslims are very open minded individuals, but yes you will find the arrogant ones. Just the same, there are christians who are great to talk to and ask them the right questions and you will get great answers. But again, even in Christianity, you will get those individuals who feel they can only react with anger. If you live in a primarily mixed culture community you have to be open to the idea of a new mosque or church being built. Maybe if more people attended chruch then there would be a need to build another facility if the old building was not accomodating request. Yes the traffic issue is a biggie, but is that an issue that will be resolved even if the mosque isnt built?? I think we need to understand that there are things that can be done to improve the flow of traffic and always has been but they havnt been looked at. To blame one building for a meltdown is ridiculous. Then on the otherhand, regardless of where you go there are roads that are always busy during rush hours etc. To answer someones post about "Why does there need to be so many mosques", Muslims pray 5 times a day and as you can imagine there needs to be something within a reasonable distance of you residence. I understand how this can be frustrating at times, but unfortunately the mosques are there to meet the demands of the population as most folke walk to the mosque and as you can imagine, young kids and the old are not going to want to travel 5 times a day to a building miles away. All in All my moto is to live and let live. Dont listen to all the media storms as they are always biased, and dont be afraid to ask people especialy muslims what they think. Yes, you may find people that dont agree with your thoughts and opinions, but isnt that the whole part of being a national with freedom of speech and individuality. We are all different. give_it_some_thought
  • Score: 15

3:01pm Fri 4 Jul 14

Comment777 says...

pradagucci wrote:
OMG. It was the worst representation I have ever seen. This is NOT Bolton, most people in Bolton is not this hence there was hardly 15 of the against mosque party. Dressed so bad, swearing whilst the discussion was taking place and then when it was approved throwing chairs down, threatening protests with NF and EDL. I was on their side but walked away. I think the Muslims acted very honourably. I can see crap like this only makes them stronger. Them 4500 signatures I think we're made up how many people on here signed them? Even the protest on Blackburn road there was hardly 50 of us. When I think about it, my mum lives in a Muslim area she feels more safer there than I do living around tinge moor and breightmeight. It would have been better these thugs didn't turn up today. Anyway I think soon we will have a Muslim prime minister. One of the thugs said if Scotland became independent it's going to be converted to a Muslim country and called ISCOTLANDBUL!!!!! she also said why is ofsted not involved in the planning?????? Ofsted regulate our schools love not planning. It was entertaining tho but also sad. Sad to see these guys won't get a job, open businesses and do something with their life. I hope when the mosque is built they keep a open day and invite non Muslims to come and see it.
Your written English is so poor that I find it painful to read your sentences. Please ensure that when you open your mosque to the non-muslim part of the community that only one entrance is used, otherwise the community may be suing the centre for sexual discrimination.
[quote][p][bold]pradagucci[/bold] wrote: OMG. It was the worst representation I have ever seen. This is NOT Bolton, most people in Bolton is not this hence there was hardly 15 of the against mosque party. Dressed so bad, swearing whilst the discussion was taking place and then when it was approved throwing chairs down, threatening protests with NF and EDL. I was on their side but walked away. I think the Muslims acted very honourably. I can see crap like this only makes them stronger. Them 4500 signatures I think we're made up how many people on here signed them? Even the protest on Blackburn road there was hardly 50 of us. When I think about it, my mum lives in a Muslim area she feels more safer there than I do living around tinge moor and breightmeight. It would have been better these thugs didn't turn up today. Anyway I think soon we will have a Muslim prime minister. One of the thugs said if Scotland became independent it's going to be converted to a Muslim country and called ISCOTLANDBUL!!!!! she also said why is ofsted not involved in the planning?????? Ofsted regulate our schools love not planning. It was entertaining tho but also sad. Sad to see these guys won't get a job, open businesses and do something with their life. I hope when the mosque is built they keep a open day and invite non Muslims to come and see it.[/p][/quote]Your written English is so poor that I find it painful to read your sentences. Please ensure that when you open your mosque to the non-muslim part of the community that only one entrance is used, otherwise the community may be suing the centre for sexual discrimination. Comment777
  • Score: -11

3:05pm Fri 4 Jul 14

Comment777 says...

JustBecause wrote:
did-i-just-say-that wrote:
What a disgrace! Absolute travesty! And I'm not talking about the mosque!

Just look at that knuckle dragging chav with his Stone Island hoodie kicking chairs over because he didn't get his way!

I hope this video footage leads to a prosecution under a public order laws!
Why the negatives for this comment, these scum bags should have been arrested, this is no way to try to get your point across, morons and racist benefit scum.

Sure protest, do something, , but at least have a reason, other than your a racist scum bag with the intellect of a pot frog.

Fingers crossed for criminal charges.
But you did not protest and that makes you and all those others who decided not to make their voice heard culpable...
[quote][p][bold]JustBecause[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]did-i-just-say-that[/bold] wrote: What a disgrace! Absolute travesty! And I'm not talking about the mosque! Just look at that knuckle dragging chav with his Stone Island hoodie kicking chairs over because he didn't get his way! I hope this video footage leads to a prosecution under a public order laws![/p][/quote]Why the negatives for this comment, these scum bags should have been arrested, this is no way to try to get your point across, morons and racist benefit scum. Sure protest, do something, , but at least have a reason, other than your a racist scum bag with the intellect of a pot frog. Fingers crossed for criminal charges.[/p][/quote]But you did not protest and that makes you and all those others who decided not to make their voice heard culpable... Comment777
  • Score: -4

3:22pm Fri 4 Jul 14

mattaiuseire says...

Comment777 wrote:
thomas222 wrote:
mattaiuseire wrote:
joanne patricia openshaw sanders wrote:
Firstly let me say sorry for swearing at the meeting, i am not against anything being built to enhance the community but i do think this was a done deal not only does it affect Blackburn road traffic but also Halliwell road traffic. whichever road you go up during prayer time each road is just as busy it is only going to be a matter of time before someone is killed crossing any of the roads i have seen children as young as 5 and 6 having to cross Halliwell road after coming out of the Mosque and having to cross the road coming from behind parked cars.. At least they should have had the brains to do a proper report on both roads for the safety of everyone you only see half a story on here i thought phones were supposed to be switched off at these meetings seems it ok for some of the minority to video it and put it in the local paper showing it to be as one sided never mind the abuse one young woman had to endure whilst just passing to go to the ladies and the abuse came from a young man that was in favour of the mosque all i am saying is there are three sides to a story and you will never see things the same way everyone sees things differently and has their own opinions but it seems none of the councilors at the meeting live in Blackburn road or Halliwell so it wont affect them until someone is killed while crossing either road because of the congestion.
If that was the case then no buildings would be made at all. People do have to cross busy roads sometimes and the majority of people injured while crossing are hurt because they, not the drivers, were not paying attention.

I have no religion, but I respect peoples rights to believe whatever they want to. I'm not in favour of the mosque but at the same time using the old "schools for radicalisation" is just nonsense - I would urge anyone to provide proof on this absurd claim.
The majority of Muslims are very peaceful people, don't tar everyone with the same brush just because the media recites disinformation on every public broadcast.

What we need to be looking at is the real reason why those majority votes against were disregarded - we need to look at the puppets behind and what gain they get out of it.

As someone said already, those half witted inbreds that turn up throwing chairs and using coarse language are not the voice of the true people and protesting in this manner just shows what a bunch of jobsworths they really are. Vote with your feet.
After the 7/7 bombings the number of Majority peaceful Muslims you mention who took to the streets to protest against Minority Muslims killing in their name & the name of Islam was Zero. Three weeks later the same Majority peaceful Muslims you mention came on the streets in their thousands all over the Country & World because a newspaper printed some cartoons that offended them. Its not rocket science.
and how many peaceful muslims expressed their disgust at the butchering of an unarmed , off duty soldier in the middle of a busy street occupied by young families...NONE!!!!!

!!!!!!!

Wake up and don't just look but see what is happening!!
More nonsense. Find some proof that no Muslims have reacted angrily at this incident. Look for it, go on, Google is your power tool. At least research what you're talking about before you make such drastic claims because it makes you sound very foolish.
[quote][p][bold]Comment777[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomas222[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mattaiuseire[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]joanne patricia openshaw sanders[/bold] wrote: Firstly let me say sorry for swearing at the meeting, i am not against anything being built to enhance the community but i do think this was a done deal not only does it affect Blackburn road traffic but also Halliwell road traffic. whichever road you go up during prayer time each road is just as busy it is only going to be a matter of time before someone is killed crossing any of the roads i have seen children as young as 5 and 6 having to cross Halliwell road after coming out of the Mosque and having to cross the road coming from behind parked cars.. At least they should have had the brains to do a proper report on both roads for the safety of everyone you only see half a story on here i thought phones were supposed to be switched off at these meetings seems it ok for some of the minority to video it and put it in the local paper showing it to be as one sided never mind the abuse one young woman had to endure whilst just passing to go to the ladies and the abuse came from a young man that was in favour of the mosque all i am saying is there are three sides to a story and you will never see things the same way everyone sees things differently and has their own opinions but it seems none of the councilors at the meeting live in Blackburn road or Halliwell so it wont affect them until someone is killed while crossing either road because of the congestion.[/p][/quote]If that was the case then no buildings would be made at all. People do have to cross busy roads sometimes and the majority of people injured while crossing are hurt because they, not the drivers, were not paying attention. I have no religion, but I respect peoples rights to believe whatever they want to. I'm not in favour of the mosque but at the same time using the old "schools for radicalisation" is just nonsense - I would urge anyone to provide proof on this absurd claim. The majority of Muslims are very peaceful people, don't tar everyone with the same brush just because the media recites disinformation on every public broadcast. What we need to be looking at is the real reason why those majority votes against were disregarded - we need to look at the puppets behind and what gain they get out of it. As someone said already, those half witted inbreds that turn up throwing chairs and using coarse language are not the voice of the true people and protesting in this manner just shows what a bunch of jobsworths they really are. Vote with your feet.[/p][/quote]After the 7/7 bombings the number of Majority peaceful Muslims you mention who took to the streets to protest against Minority Muslims killing in their name & the name of Islam was Zero. Three weeks later the same Majority peaceful Muslims you mention came on the streets in their thousands all over the Country & World because a newspaper printed some cartoons that offended them. Its not rocket science.[/p][/quote]and how many peaceful muslims expressed their disgust at the butchering of an unarmed , off duty soldier in the middle of a busy street occupied by young families...NONE!!!!! !!!!!!! Wake up and don't just look but see what is happening!![/p][/quote]More nonsense. Find some proof that no Muslims have reacted angrily at this incident. Look for it, go on, Google is your power tool. At least research what you're talking about before you make such drastic claims because it makes you sound very foolish. mattaiuseire
  • Score: 5

3:23pm Fri 4 Jul 14

itsnotthatbad says...

knowledgeiskey wrote:
I totally agree with the supposed"white racists" I am a Muslim and I have lived and have friends around there. The traffic is horrific. We all park as if we are in Islamabad or Lahore. Double and triple parking is "standard" This is nothing to do with integration. this is all about Muslim arrogance and to be honest I am ashamed the way the people of my faith often behave. The line about "for all the community... anyone can use???" - I mean who are we kidding? It is "spot the white" around there anyway.. We moved because we we felt pressured to be more "Muslim" Horrible,backward...

need I go on...
I agree with the arrogance. Not saying others aren't but the arrogance and wanting everything on a plate or their way only is true. It causes divides. I'm tolerant to a degree, but it's getting lesser by the day! Getting more annoyed as each day passes. INTEGRATION from immigration has not happened round here. Closed off communities is all we have. Vicious circle.
[quote][p][bold]knowledgeiskey[/bold] wrote: I totally agree with the supposed"white racists" I am a Muslim and I have lived and have friends around there. The traffic is horrific. We all park as if we are in Islamabad or Lahore. Double and triple parking is "standard" This is nothing to do with integration. this is all about Muslim arrogance and to be honest I am ashamed the way the people of my faith often behave. The line about "for all the community... anyone can use???" - I mean who are we kidding? It is "spot the white" around there anyway.. We moved because we we felt pressured to be more "Muslim" Horrible,backward... need I go on...[/p][/quote]I agree with the arrogance. Not saying others aren't but the arrogance and wanting everything on a plate or their way only is true. It causes divides. I'm tolerant to a degree, but it's getting lesser by the day! Getting more annoyed as each day passes. INTEGRATION from immigration has not happened round here. Closed off communities is all we have. Vicious circle. itsnotthatbad
  • Score: 12

3:34pm Fri 4 Jul 14

johnnyjackson says...

Comment777 wrote:
thomas222 wrote:
mattaiuseire wrote:
joanne patricia openshaw sanders wrote:
Firstly let me say sorry for swearing at the meeting, i am not against anything being built to enhance the community but i do think this was a done deal not only does it affect Blackburn road traffic but also Halliwell road traffic. whichever road you go up during prayer time each road is just as busy it is only going to be a matter of time before someone is killed crossing any of the roads i have seen children as young as 5 and 6 having to cross Halliwell road after coming out of the Mosque and having to cross the road coming from behind parked cars.. At least they should have had the brains to do a proper report on both roads for the safety of everyone you only see half a story on here i thought phones were supposed to be switched off at these meetings seems it ok for some of the minority to video it and put it in the local paper showing it to be as one sided never mind the abuse one young woman had to endure whilst just passing to go to the ladies and the abuse came from a young man that was in favour of the mosque all i am saying is there are three sides to a story and you will never see things the same way everyone sees things differently and has their own opinions but it seems none of the councilors at the meeting live in Blackburn road or Halliwell so it wont affect them until someone is killed while crossing either road because of the congestion.
If that was the case then no buildings would be made at all. People do have to cross busy roads sometimes and the majority of people injured while crossing are hurt because they, not the drivers, were not paying attention.

I have no religion, but I respect peoples rights to believe whatever they want to. I'm not in favour of the mosque but at the same time using the old "schools for radicalisation" is just nonsense - I would urge anyone to provide proof on this absurd claim.
The majority of Muslims are very peaceful people, don't tar everyone with the same brush just because the media recites disinformation on every public broadcast.

What we need to be looking at is the real reason why those majority votes against were disregarded - we need to look at the puppets behind and what gain they get out of it.

As someone said already, those half witted inbreds that turn up throwing chairs and using coarse language are not the voice of the true people and protesting in this manner just shows what a bunch of jobsworths they really are. Vote with your feet.
After the 7/7 bombings the number of Majority peaceful Muslims you mention who took to the streets to protest against Minority Muslims killing in their name & the name of Islam was Zero. Three weeks later the same Majority peaceful Muslims you mention came on the streets in their thousands all over the Country & World because a newspaper printed some cartoons that offended them. Its not rocket science.
and how many peaceful muslims expressed their disgust at the butchering of an unarmed , off duty soldier in the middle of a busy street occupied by young families...NONE!!!!!

!!!!!!!

Wake up and don't just look but see what is happening!!
None.... Because the soldier was killed by a lunatic non muslim.

How many christians took to the streets to protest about the innocent saudi arabian lady who was recently butchered?

How many christians took to the streets to protest against the Christian polish/norwegian guy who attempted to blow up the mosque or the russian student who did the same?

NONE!!!!!!!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Comment777[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomas222[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mattaiuseire[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]joanne patricia openshaw sanders[/bold] wrote: Firstly let me say sorry for swearing at the meeting, i am not against anything being built to enhance the community but i do think this was a done deal not only does it affect Blackburn road traffic but also Halliwell road traffic. whichever road you go up during prayer time each road is just as busy it is only going to be a matter of time before someone is killed crossing any of the roads i have seen children as young as 5 and 6 having to cross Halliwell road after coming out of the Mosque and having to cross the road coming from behind parked cars.. At least they should have had the brains to do a proper report on both roads for the safety of everyone you only see half a story on here i thought phones were supposed to be switched off at these meetings seems it ok for some of the minority to video it and put it in the local paper showing it to be as one sided never mind the abuse one young woman had to endure whilst just passing to go to the ladies and the abuse came from a young man that was in favour of the mosque all i am saying is there are three sides to a story and you will never see things the same way everyone sees things differently and has their own opinions but it seems none of the councilors at the meeting live in Blackburn road or Halliwell so it wont affect them until someone is killed while crossing either road because of the congestion.[/p][/quote]If that was the case then no buildings would be made at all. People do have to cross busy roads sometimes and the majority of people injured while crossing are hurt because they, not the drivers, were not paying attention. I have no religion, but I respect peoples rights to believe whatever they want to. I'm not in favour of the mosque but at the same time using the old "schools for radicalisation" is just nonsense - I would urge anyone to provide proof on this absurd claim. The majority of Muslims are very peaceful people, don't tar everyone with the same brush just because the media recites disinformation on every public broadcast. What we need to be looking at is the real reason why those majority votes against were disregarded - we need to look at the puppets behind and what gain they get out of it. As someone said already, those half witted inbreds that turn up throwing chairs and using coarse language are not the voice of the true people and protesting in this manner just shows what a bunch of jobsworths they really are. Vote with your feet.[/p][/quote]After the 7/7 bombings the number of Majority peaceful Muslims you mention who took to the streets to protest against Minority Muslims killing in their name & the name of Islam was Zero. Three weeks later the same Majority peaceful Muslims you mention came on the streets in their thousands all over the Country & World because a newspaper printed some cartoons that offended them. Its not rocket science.[/p][/quote]and how many peaceful muslims expressed their disgust at the butchering of an unarmed , off duty soldier in the middle of a busy street occupied by young families...NONE!!!!! !!!!!!! Wake up and don't just look but see what is happening!![/p][/quote]None.... Because the soldier was killed by a lunatic non muslim. How many christians took to the streets to protest about the innocent saudi arabian lady who was recently butchered? How many christians took to the streets to protest against the Christian polish/norwegian guy who attempted to blow up the mosque or the russian student who did the same? NONE!!!!!!!!!!!! johnnyjackson
  • Score: 11

4:01pm Fri 4 Jul 14

Gman13 says...

Reed Lover wrote:
Just a load of racist ranting and Islamaphobia from feckless louts and chavvy women as usual. I'd rather look at a mosque on every street corner than let this scum think they are representing the views of the people of Bolton with their bigotry and thuggery.
I can think of 5 "Christian" church buildings in Astley Bridge off the top of my head, any ideas as to why we needed 5?
Might be because this is a Christian country! Dur.....
[quote][p][bold]Reed Lover[/bold] wrote: Just a load of racist ranting and Islamaphobia from feckless louts and chavvy women as usual. I'd rather look at a mosque on every street corner than let this scum think they are representing the views of the people of Bolton with their bigotry and thuggery. I can think of 5 "Christian" church buildings in Astley Bridge off the top of my head, any ideas as to why we needed 5?[/p][/quote]Might be because this is a Christian country! Dur..... Gman13
  • Score: -6

4:51pm Fri 4 Jul 14

Jackael says...

ha ha just reading some of the 80's JOE AKI put downs on here, calling people a PLANK , PRATT and not to mention the awful grammar , laughable really...
ha ha just reading some of the 80's JOE AKI put downs on here, calling people a PLANK , PRATT and not to mention the awful grammar , laughable really... Jackael
  • Score: 4

4:51pm Fri 4 Jul 14

willywonker says...

I moved away from Bolton 18 months up 2 Penrith Cumbria best thing I ever did I come back at weekend to my mates, evey time im back I take my life in my hands driving up Blackburn Rd & Deane Rd, what a dump this town is, anybody with half a brain get out of this town while you can. Cumbria is good for us English men.
I moved away from Bolton 18 months up 2 Penrith Cumbria best thing I ever did I come back at weekend to my mates, evey time im back I take my life in my hands driving up Blackburn Rd & Deane Rd, what a dump this town is, anybody with half a brain get out of this town while you can. Cumbria is good for us English men. willywonker
  • Score: -4

4:52pm Fri 4 Jul 14

Jamesuns says...

Beyond News Forum wrote:
127001 wrote:
Beyond News Forum wrote:
Dobbo1973 wrote:
It's a travesty point one they say its only replacing the old building but it will hold 300 more people. Point two I read that somebody got there extension turned down for being to imposing. I suppose towers and domes don't come into that bracket why can't the new building just blend in with everything else is there really a need for domes and towers as the existing building doesn't have them so I presume it's not important for the religious aspect maybe it's for the islamification of Bolton I think our town is being sold down the river and these so called councillors aren't thinking about the town and what it will be like in another 10/20 years. I'm already thinking of leaving its a joke
I predict a riot.
I'm seriously concerned over what's going to happen over the next few days/weeks/months.
People think that the anger shown in the town hall is just thuggery... foolish people with their righteous minds, they do not see the truth as they are blinded by propaganda. Anger... emotions... they spill over when something is not right. I do not condone the behaviour but at the same time I applaud the anger shown.

If people think kicking a few chairs over and a few swear words are something to belittle those who are standing up for the rights of the community as a whole, then they will be wondering what all the fuss was about when this town and many other around the country are plunged into civil war and... maybe even worse... the call to arms from Allah.

This is not fearmongering... those who say they will return from Syria state so themselves. Re: Cardiff Jihadist Threatens UK.
the people throwing over chairs wernt even from the local area
[quote][p][bold]Beyond News Forum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]127001[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Beyond News Forum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dobbo1973[/bold] wrote: It's a travesty point one they say its only replacing the old building but it will hold 300 more people. Point two I read that somebody got there extension turned down for being to imposing. I suppose towers and domes don't come into that bracket why can't the new building just blend in with everything else is there really a need for domes and towers as the existing building doesn't have them so I presume it's not important for the religious aspect maybe it's for the islamification of Bolton I think our town is being sold down the river and these so called councillors aren't thinking about the town and what it will be like in another 10/20 years. I'm already thinking of leaving its a joke[/p][/quote]I predict a riot.[/p][/quote]I'm seriously concerned over what's going to happen over the next few days/weeks/months.[/p][/quote]People think that the anger shown in the town hall is just thuggery... foolish people with their righteous minds, they do not see the truth as they are blinded by propaganda. Anger... emotions... they spill over when something is not right. I do not condone the behaviour but at the same time I applaud the anger shown. If people think kicking a few chairs over and a few swear words are something to belittle those who are standing up for the rights of the community as a whole, then they will be wondering what all the fuss was about when this town and many other around the country are plunged into civil war and... maybe even worse... the call to arms from Allah. This is not fearmongering... those who say they will return from Syria state so themselves. Re: Cardiff Jihadist Threatens UK.[/p][/quote]the people throwing over chairs wernt even from the local area Jamesuns
  • Score: 8

4:55pm Fri 4 Jul 14

TheJust1 says...

The person with the previous conment said that muslims can pray anyway took this bit of Quran out of context, what it means is as long is the any place is clean and without images of animate beings then those are the permissible places, not that you do not need mosque because the reward for praying in a congregation is greater. When praying in a congregation people of all race, social class come together all equal infront of Allah. Coming from somebody who learned Islam from Westerners who most of them hate Islam and make up lies and distort truth it is not surprising to read comments of this nature. These people deeply lack religious insight. I would urge these people instead of picking on muslims who are minority in this country why do they not confront the establishments in this country. The reason is they do not have the intellect or the will to challenge the establishments because they know the establishments are too powerful for them, so to take out their frustrations mainly on minorities because they are the majority group in this country. If these people really think Islam is the problem then bring our soldiers from the Afghanistan and replace with these thugs, I doubt many would volunteer. That is where they will get real action. If these people would not condemn the Jewish and Christian Bible of condoning massacre and paedophilia and the British law allowing Zoophilia then one cannot expect justice, fairplay and tolerance from people of warped mentality. There is no hope from them. A TOTAL LOSS CASE.
The person with the previous conment said that muslims can pray anyway took this bit of Quran out of context, what it means is as long is the any place is clean and without images of animate beings then those are the permissible places, not that you do not need mosque because the reward for praying in a congregation is greater. When praying in a congregation people of all race, social class come together all equal infront of Allah. Coming from somebody who learned Islam from Westerners who most of them hate Islam and make up lies and distort truth it is not surprising to read comments of this nature. These people deeply lack religious insight. I would urge these people instead of picking on muslims who are minority in this country why do they not confront the establishments in this country. The reason is they do not have the intellect or the will to challenge the establishments because they know the establishments are too powerful for them, so to take out their frustrations mainly on minorities because they are the majority group in this country. If these people really think Islam is the problem then bring our soldiers from the Afghanistan and replace with these thugs, I doubt many would volunteer. That is where they will get real action. If these people would not condemn the Jewish and Christian Bible of condoning massacre and paedophilia and the British law allowing Zoophilia then one cannot expect justice, fairplay and tolerance from people of warped mentality. There is no hope from them. A TOTAL LOSS CASE. TheJust1
  • Score: 11

4:59pm Fri 4 Jul 14

Jamesuns says...

Comment777 wrote:
ChristPMossie wrote:
I see that kid with with the red Jacket shouting NATIONAL FRONT is national front racist Tom Nelson from Seaforth Road Astley Bridge who is already facing charges for his racism and violent behaviour.

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It is persons who are willing to stand up against the threat who will protect your children's children from being burned, stabbed, racially abused, made to wear only accepted clothing, forced into unsolicited relationships and made to live in constant distress should they dishonour their family or partner...for which the penalty will be death by stoning and no person or persons would be held accountable in fact the perpetrators of the killing will be celebrated as a hero or heroes...
people willing to stand up against a threat, these people were the ones making threats, also why would i need a facist to fight for me im quite capable of looking after myself and my own thank you, dont make out this is for me/us its purley for your own gratification!
[quote][p][bold]Comment777[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChristPMossie[/bold] wrote: I see that kid with with the red Jacket shouting NATIONAL FRONT is national front racist Tom Nelson from Seaforth Road Astley Bridge who is already facing charges for his racism and violent behaviour. http://www.thebolton news.co.uk/news/crim e/11029227.Bolton_Cr imewatch_suspect_cha rged_after_EDL_prote st_in_Birmingham/?re f=nt[/p][/quote]It is persons who are willing to stand up against the threat who will protect your children's children from being burned, stabbed, racially abused, made to wear only accepted clothing, forced into unsolicited relationships and made to live in constant distress should they dishonour their family or partner...for which the penalty will be death by stoning and no person or persons would be held accountable in fact the perpetrators of the killing will be celebrated as a hero or heroes...[/p][/quote]people willing to stand up against a threat, these people were the ones making threats, also why would i need a facist to fight for me im quite capable of looking after myself and my own thank you, dont make out this is for me/us its purley for your own gratification! Jamesuns
  • Score: 4

5:00pm Fri 4 Jul 14

Where'swally says...

rnorris wrote:
Bolton is in dramatic decline an has been for a number of years. Surely you didn't really expect planning permission to be refused for the new Super Mosque. It doesn't matter which political party is running Bolton Council , none will want to upset and lose the Asian vote due to the numbers involved...........j

ust saying what many people thnk but are afraid to say.
it does really, cos Labour are the party of choice for muslims hence why when its voting day all you see is labour flyers and posters in muslims house windows. They like labour due to labour being so PC they forgot about US!! they like labour cos labour bend over backwards to not hurt their feelings. I can go on and on and on. I will NEVER vote for labour. I have no faith in the other parties, but labour are to blame for the saturation and state of this country. I hate conservatives but if they'd stayed in power in the 90's this wouldnt be happening right now. Like when a saudi arabian prince or king came to visit he said "when will we see a mosque in london??" Margaret thatcher said "when we see a church in saudi arabia!!!" we AREN'T a middle eastern country. we are tolerant not submissive. if ISLAMIC states are soooooo good, then why have you come here???...... we have radicals saying no dogs allowed assaulting people for holding hands etc and saying they hate england. why live here then?? go off to syria and be martyred!!! do us all a favour!! it reaches a point where the common man says enough is enough!!! well this is enough. you've got too many mosques as it is!! just "do up" the ones you have not try to build imposing buildings and deepen the divide. I'm tolerant are you>> no!!
[quote][p][bold]rnorris[/bold] wrote: Bolton is in dramatic decline an has been for a number of years. Surely you didn't really expect planning permission to be refused for the new Super Mosque. It doesn't matter which political party is running Bolton Council , none will want to upset and lose the Asian vote due to the numbers involved...........j ust saying what many people thnk but are afraid to say.[/p][/quote]it does really, cos Labour are the party of choice for muslims hence why when its voting day all you see is labour flyers and posters in muslims house windows. They like labour due to labour being so PC they forgot about US!! they like labour cos labour bend over backwards to not hurt their feelings. I can go on and on and on. I will NEVER vote for labour. I have no faith in the other parties, but labour are to blame for the saturation and state of this country. I hate conservatives but if they'd stayed in power in the 90's this wouldnt be happening right now. Like when a saudi arabian prince or king came to visit he said "when will we see a mosque in london??" Margaret thatcher said "when we see a church in saudi arabia!!!" we AREN'T a middle eastern country. we are tolerant not submissive. if ISLAMIC states are soooooo good, then why have you come here???...... we have radicals saying no dogs allowed assaulting people for holding hands etc and saying they hate england. why live here then?? go off to syria and be martyred!!! do us all a favour!! it reaches a point where the common man says enough is enough!!! well this is enough. you've got too many mosques as it is!! just "do up" the ones you have not try to build imposing buildings and deepen the divide. I'm tolerant are you>> no!! Where'swally
  • Score: 1

5:04pm Fri 4 Jul 14

Farnworth Lady says...

“The individual objectors don’t seem to understand what a community facility is about.”



How is this a Community Facility?
Its for a specific proportion of the community.
The Building will be large, over the top, and out of context, as previously pointed out.
It will cause traffic congestion, on an already over-used road and will annoy a good deal of residents.
This Country has no Backbone, Bolton Council are virtually slow-worms they are sooo spineless.
Would we be able to go to an Islamic Country and make demands, and would their Powers that be, come down on our side, and go against the local community...........
...............nah mate!!!!
This needs looking into further, it is all very one sided.
Seriously - Bolton Council Planning Dept, grow a pair and look after your long standing local residents a bit more.
I'm disgusted.
“The individual objectors don’t seem to understand what a community facility is about.” How is this a Community Facility? Its for a specific proportion of the community. The Building will be large, over the top, and out of context, as previously pointed out. It will cause traffic congestion, on an already over-used road and will annoy a good deal of residents. This Country has no Backbone, Bolton Council are virtually slow-worms they are sooo spineless. Would we be able to go to an Islamic Country and make demands, and would their Powers that be, come down on our side, and go against the local community........... ...............nah mate!!!! This needs looking into further, it is all very one sided. Seriously - Bolton Council Planning Dept, grow a pair and look after your long standing local residents a bit more. I'm disgusted. Farnworth Lady
  • Score: 7

5:05pm Fri 4 Jul 14

Where'swally says...

willywonker wrote:
I moved away from Bolton 18 months up 2 Penrith Cumbria best thing I ever did I come back at weekend to my mates, evey time im back I take my life in my hands driving up Blackburn Rd & Deane Rd, what a dump this town is, anybody with half a brain get out of this town while you can. Cumbria is good for us English men.
or even wigan! they dont like wigan. Must the pies that puts them off.... they only seem to like towns starting with B Bradford Burnley Birmingham Bolton. B-oldham.....
[quote][p][bold]willywonker[/bold] wrote: I moved away from Bolton 18 months up 2 Penrith Cumbria best thing I ever did I come back at weekend to my mates, evey time im back I take my life in my hands driving up Blackburn Rd & Deane Rd, what a dump this town is, anybody with half a brain get out of this town while you can. Cumbria is good for us English men.[/p][/quote]or even wigan! they dont like wigan. Must the pies that puts them off.... they only seem to like towns starting with B Bradford Burnley Birmingham Bolton. B-oldham..... Where'swally
  • Score: 3

5:10pm Fri 4 Jul 14

Jamesuns says...

Farnworth Lady wrote:
“The individual objectors don’t seem to understand what a community facility is about.”



How is this a Community Facility?
Its for a specific proportion of the community.
The Building will be large, over the top, and out of context, as previously pointed out.
It will cause traffic congestion, on an already over-used road and will annoy a good deal of residents.
This Country has no Backbone, Bolton Council are virtually slow-worms they are sooo spineless.
Would we be able to go to an Islamic Country and make demands, and would their Powers that be, come down on our side, and go against the local community...........

...............nah mate!!!!
This needs looking into further, it is all very one sided.
Seriously - Bolton Council Planning Dept, grow a pair and look after your long standing local residents a bit more.
I'm disgusted.
beacuse its for people that live there not people that live in farnworth
[quote][p][bold]Farnworth Lady[/bold] wrote: “The individual objectors don’t seem to understand what a community facility is about.” How is this a Community Facility? Its for a specific proportion of the community. The Building will be large, over the top, and out of context, as previously pointed out. It will cause traffic congestion, on an already over-used road and will annoy a good deal of residents. This Country has no Backbone, Bolton Council are virtually slow-worms they are sooo spineless. Would we be able to go to an Islamic Country and make demands, and would their Powers that be, come down on our side, and go against the local community........... ...............nah mate!!!! This needs looking into further, it is all very one sided. Seriously - Bolton Council Planning Dept, grow a pair and look after your long standing local residents a bit more. I'm disgusted.[/p][/quote]beacuse its for people that live there not people that live in farnworth Jamesuns
  • Score: 1

5:15pm Fri 4 Jul 14

EveDallas says...

Maybe its only the so called 'thugs' making a violent protest,because no one else has the guts to stand up and protest. we don't want this or any other mosque in this town or indeed the country.
shame on you bolton council, in a so called democratic society every rate paying boltonian should have had a vote. but thats too easy because if we did have a vote the decision would have gone the other way.
Maybe its only the so called 'thugs' making a violent protest,because no one else has the guts to stand up and protest. we don't want this or any other mosque in this town or indeed the country. shame on you bolton council, in a so called democratic society every rate paying boltonian should have had a vote. but thats too easy because if we did have a vote the decision would have gone the other way. EveDallas
  • Score: -4

5:25pm Fri 4 Jul 14

Jamesuns says...

EveDallas wrote:
Maybe its only the so called 'thugs' making a violent protest,because no one else has the guts to stand up and protest. we don't want this or any other mosque in this town or indeed the country.
shame on you bolton council, in a so called democratic society every rate paying boltonian should have had a vote. but thats too easy because if we did have a vote the decision would have gone the other way.
when you say we I assume you actually mean you dont unless I have somehow lost the ability to think for myself?

the people making violent protests obviously arent thugs if they were I am sure they would reason using logic instead of resorting to violence?
[quote][p][bold]EveDallas[/bold] wrote: Maybe its only the so called 'thugs' making a violent protest,because no one else has the guts to stand up and protest. we don't want this or any other mosque in this town or indeed the country. shame on you bolton council, in a so called democratic society every rate paying boltonian should have had a vote. but thats too easy because if we did have a vote the decision would have gone the other way.[/p][/quote]when you say we I assume you actually mean you dont unless I have somehow lost the ability to think for myself? the people making violent protests obviously arent thugs if they were I am sure they would reason using logic instead of resorting to violence? Jamesuns
  • Score: 1

5:37pm Fri 4 Jul 14

DAUBHILL85 says...

johnnyjackson wrote:
DAUBHILL85 wrote:
johnnyjackson wrote:
DAUBHILL85 wrote:
johnnyjackson says... If you disagree entirely, what do you claim to be? A non racist, peace lover?

I am what I am - we are what we are, none of us are perfect.
Thank you for admitting you are what you are.... We know what that is as admitted by yourself.
WHICH IS THIS - I am sick to death at the state of this country and what various governments have allowed it to get into regarding immigration which has gone uncontrolled for 50 years or more and still continuing now.
And low and behold It has now become a dumping ground for third world countries, daubhil, deane ,great lever is now being overrun with mostly African citizens milking our welfare system, housing, schools, nhs ( IT SHOULD BE RENAMED IHS- INTERNATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE)
Not to mention half of Europe being here too, it's our benefits and free housing, free schools, free nhs, etc,etc that is the main attraction here, there's no doubt about it.
Does that annoy me or make me racist ?
Make your mind up pal. One minute you admit your racist then you question whether or not your racist.

All this is too much for you and goes well above your head. Give up now before you have a heart attack.
Wind your neck in..... and i'll never be your pal as I have already said before above. your obsessed with whether I am racist, what if I am or not you can't do nothing about it !!!
Your the sort who don't like others having a point of view about immigration and the mosque in question.

Just stick to my original post.
[quote][p][bold]johnnyjackson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DAUBHILL85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]johnnyjackson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DAUBHILL85[/bold] wrote: johnnyjackson says... If you disagree entirely, what do you claim to be? A non racist, peace lover? I am what I am - we are what we are, none of us are perfect.[/p][/quote]Thank you for admitting you are what you are.... We know what that is as admitted by yourself.[/p][/quote]WHICH IS THIS - I am sick to death at the state of this country and what various governments have allowed it to get into regarding immigration which has gone uncontrolled for 50 years or more and still continuing now. And low and behold It has now become a dumping ground for third world countries, daubhil, deane ,great lever is now being overrun with mostly African citizens milking our welfare system, housing, schools, nhs ( IT SHOULD BE RENAMED IHS- INTERNATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE) Not to mention half of Europe being here too, it's our benefits and free housing, free schools, free nhs, etc,etc that is the main attraction here, there's no doubt about it. Does that annoy me or make me racist ?[/p][/quote]Make your mind up pal. One minute you admit your racist then you question whether or not your racist. All this is too much for you and goes well above your head. Give up now before you have a heart attack.[/p][/quote]Wind your neck in..... and i'll never be your pal as I have already said before above. your obsessed with whether I am racist, what if I am or not you can't do nothing about it !!! Your the sort who don't like others having a point of view about immigration and the mosque in question. Just stick to my original post. DAUBHILL85
  • Score: -4

6:03pm Fri 4 Jul 14

Ahmad K says...

Dobbo1973 wrote:
It's a travesty point one they say its only replacing the old building but it will hold 300 more people. Point two I read that somebody got there extension turned down for being to imposing. I suppose towers and domes don't come into that bracket why can't the new building just blend in with everything else is there really a need for domes and towers as the existing building doesn't have them so I presume it's not important for the religious aspect maybe it's for the islamification of Bolton I think our town is being sold down the river and these so called councillors aren't thinking about the town and what it will be like in another 10/20 years. I'm already thinking of leaving its a joke
Yes, new builds replace old mosques which have usually been there for the past 40 to 50 years. All communities, grow, and a through terraced house or two put together is no longer large enough for the 5 daily congregational prayers, particularly for Friday prayers, or during funerals and Eid prayers twice a year. ..............This was a Pagan country but through St Augustine, people accepted a Middle Eastern faith called Christianity, about a man with a beard in long robes, and whose mother (Mary) wore hijaab. Not all the Pagans liked churches and cathedrals being built all over these isles with their steeples and Crucifix's (AND with domes and minarets too), but it happened. Then many more denominations sprung up with their own style, as did Jewish Temples centuries ago with big domes. Sikh temples have domes too. ........Although this country has a Pagan and Christian past, it is mainly secular now and its freedoms (that Muslims too fought to protect for Britain in past world wars), includes freedom of religion and religious expression. Cheers.
[quote][p][bold]Dobbo1973[/bold] wrote: It's a travesty point one they say its only replacing the old building but it will hold 300 more people. Point two I read that somebody got there extension turned down for being to imposing. I suppose towers and domes don't come into that bracket why can't the new building just blend in with everything else is there really a need for domes and towers as the existing building doesn't have them so I presume it's not important for the religious aspect maybe it's for the islamification of Bolton I think our town is being sold down the river and these so called councillors aren't thinking about the town and what it will be like in another 10/20 years. I'm already thinking of leaving its a joke[/p][/quote]Yes, new builds replace old mosques which have usually been there for the past 40 to 50 years. All communities, grow, and a through terraced house or two put together is no longer large enough for the 5 daily congregational prayers, particularly for Friday prayers, or during funerals and Eid prayers twice a year. ..............This was a Pagan country but through St Augustine, people accepted a Middle Eastern faith called Christianity, about a man with a beard in long robes, and whose mother (Mary) wore hijaab. Not all the Pagans liked churches and cathedrals being built all over these isles with their steeples and Crucifix's (AND with domes and minarets too), but it happened. Then many more denominations sprung up with their own style, as did Jewish Temples centuries ago with big domes. Sikh temples have domes too. ........Although this country has a Pagan and Christian past, it is mainly secular now and its freedoms (that Muslims too fought to protect for Britain in past world wars), includes freedom of religion and religious expression. Cheers. Ahmad K
  • Score: 16

6:04pm Fri 4 Jul 14

JustBecause says...

Comment777 wrote:
JustBecause wrote:
did-i-just-say-that wrote:
What a disgrace! Absolute travesty! And I'm not talking about the mosque!

Just look at that knuckle dragging chav with his Stone Island hoodie kicking chairs over because he didn't get his way!

I hope this video footage leads to a prosecution under a public order laws!
Why the negatives for this comment, these scum bags should have been arrested, this is no way to try to get your point across, morons and racist benefit scum.

Sure protest, do something, , but at least have a reason, other than your a racist scum bag with the intellect of a pot frog.

Fingers crossed for criminal charges.
But you did not protest and that makes you and all those others who decided not to make their voice heard culpable...
Not at all, I have made my point very clear, to all concerned however via other channels, it wasn't in a way that made me look like football hooligan, which this lot pretty much are combined with being racist scum,

it has nothing to do with the mosque more about who is behind it, if it had been a synagogue, not one of the Neanderthals would have shown up.

As I have said I am against the "building" not what it stands for or who uses it.
[quote][p][bold]Comment777[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JustBecause[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]did-i-just-say-that[/bold] wrote: What a disgrace! Absolute travesty! And I'm not talking about the mosque! Just look at that knuckle dragging chav with his Stone Island hoodie kicking chairs over because he didn't get his way! I hope this video footage leads to a prosecution under a public order laws![/p][/quote]Why the negatives for this comment, these scum bags should have been arrested, this is no way to try to get your point across, morons and racist benefit scum. Sure protest, do something, , but at least have a reason, other than your a racist scum bag with the intellect of a pot frog. Fingers crossed for criminal charges.[/p][/quote]But you did not protest and that makes you and all those others who decided not to make their voice heard culpable...[/p][/quote]Not at all, I have made my point very clear, to all concerned however via other channels, it wasn't in a way that made me look like football hooligan, which this lot pretty much are combined with being racist scum, it has nothing to do with the mosque more about who is behind it, if it had been a synagogue, not one of the Neanderthals would have shown up. As I have said I am against the "building" not what it stands for or who uses it. JustBecause
  • Score: 0

6:32pm Fri 4 Jul 14

bolton12 says...

ChristPMossie wrote:
I see that kid with with the red Jacket shouting NATIONAL FRONT is national front racist Tom Nelson from Seaforth Road Astley Bridge who is already facing charges for his racism and violent behaviour.

http://www.thebolton

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Well ChristPMossie can we please have your full name address too or do you just hide behind your user name - I am disgusted that the Bolton news have allowed this comment to be shown printing this is putting people in danger!!!
[quote][p][bold]ChristPMossie[/bold] wrote: I see that kid with with the red Jacket shouting NATIONAL FRONT is national front racist Tom Nelson from Seaforth Road Astley Bridge who is already facing charges for his racism and violent behaviour. http://www.thebolton news.co.uk/news/crim e/11029227.Bolton_Cr imewatch_suspect_cha rged_after_EDL_prote st_in_Birmingham/?re f=nt[/p][/quote]Well ChristPMossie can we please have your full name address too or do you just hide behind your user name - I am disgusted that the Bolton news have allowed this comment to be shown printing this is putting people in danger!!! bolton12
  • Score: -3

6:40pm Fri 4 Jul 14

bolton12 says...

did-i-just-say-that wrote:
What a disgrace! Absolute travesty! And I'm not talking about the mosque!

Just look at that knuckle dragging chav with his Stone Island hoodie kicking chairs over because he didn't get his way!

I hope this video footage leads to a prosecution under a public order laws!
Maybe your just a snob 'judging' people for what they are wearing - where were you or will this not affect you!! It's a shame the Bolton news did not show the women in burka's sticking V up and taking the mickey out of the disabled man, or the Muslim's doing signs of 'throats being slits. Then again that would probably not be politically correct or maybe they just were not wearing 'Stone Island'.
[quote][p][bold]did-i-just-say-that[/bold] wrote: What a disgrace! Absolute travesty! And I'm not talking about the mosque! Just look at that knuckle dragging chav with his Stone Island hoodie kicking chairs over because he didn't get his way! I hope this video footage leads to a prosecution under a public order laws![/p][/quote]Maybe your just a snob 'judging' people for what they are wearing - where were you or will this not affect you!! It's a shame the Bolton news did not show the women in burka's sticking V up and taking the mickey out of the disabled man, or the Muslim's doing signs of 'throats being slits. Then again that would probably not be politically correct or maybe they just were not wearing 'Stone Island'. bolton12
  • Score: 1

6:53pm Fri 4 Jul 14

bolton12 says...

TilerJ wrote:
Rivers of blood? Have you heard yourselves? You're inciting violence with your words, but I think that's exactly what you're after. At least the muslims followed the due process. And your islamophobic personalities isn't a valid reason to oppose a building even if you keep trying to hide behind 'traffic issues'.
I suppose you probably don't travel up Blackburn Road?? As for violence can I just remind you - London 7/7, Twin Towers 9/11, Syria!!!
[quote][p][bold]TilerJ[/bold] wrote: Rivers of blood? Have you heard yourselves? You're inciting violence with your words, but I think that's exactly what you're after. At least the muslims followed the due process. And your islamophobic personalities isn't a valid reason to oppose a building even if you keep trying to hide behind 'traffic issues'.[/p][/quote]I suppose you probably don't travel up Blackburn Road?? As for violence can I just remind you - London 7/7, Twin Towers 9/11, Syria!!! bolton12
  • Score: 0

6:56pm Fri 4 Jul 14

Michael Collins71 says...

bolton12 wrote:
did-i-just-say-that wrote:
What a disgrace! Absolute travesty! And I'm not talking about the mosque!

Just look at that knuckle dragging chav with his Stone Island hoodie kicking chairs over because he didn't get his way!

I hope this video footage leads to a prosecution under a public order laws!
Maybe your just a snob 'judging' people for what they are wearing - where were you or will this not affect you!! It's a shame the Bolton news did not show the women in burka's sticking V up and taking the mickey out of the disabled man, or the Muslim's doing signs of 'throats being slits. Then again that would probably not be politically correct or maybe they just were not wearing 'Stone Island'.
Is this disabled man the same disabled man who has stood for 4 hours a day for over a week mithering select people for signatures? The same one who kicks over chairs ? I hope this man works as he is clearly able to.
[quote][p][bold]bolton12[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]did-i-just-say-that[/bold] wrote: What a disgrace! Absolute travesty! And I'm not talking about the mosque! Just look at that knuckle dragging chav with his Stone Island hoodie kicking chairs over because he didn't get his way! I hope this video footage leads to a prosecution under a public order laws![/p][/quote]Maybe your just a snob 'judging' people for what they are wearing - where were you or will this not affect you!! It's a shame the Bolton news did not show the women in burka's sticking V up and taking the mickey out of the disabled man, or the Muslim's doing signs of 'throats being slits. Then again that would probably not be politically correct or maybe they just were not wearing 'Stone Island'.[/p][/quote]Is this disabled man the same disabled man who has stood for 4 hours a day for over a week mithering select people for signatures? The same one who kicks over chairs ? I hope this man works as he is clearly able to. Michael Collins71
  • Score: 1

7:02pm Fri 4 Jul 14

ChristPMossie says...

Comment777 wrote:
ChristPMossie wrote:
I see that kid with with the red Jacket shouting NATIONAL FRONT is national front racist Tom Nelson from Seaforth Road Astley Bridge who is already facing charges for his racism and violent behaviour.

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It is persons who are willing to stand up against the threat who will protect your children's children from being burned, stabbed, racially abused, made to wear only accepted clothing, forced into unsolicited relationships and made to live in constant distress should they dishonour their family or partner...for which the penalty will be death by stoning and no person or persons would be held accountable in fact the perpetrators of the killing will be celebrated as a hero or heroes...
Strange

I've met many muslims, They've never attacked or threatened my family, they've never threatened to Burn Stab or racially abuse my family or children, they've never imposed Islam onto me and they certainly haven't threatened to stone me or any of my family.

This world you live in , I don't recognise it.
[quote][p][bold]Comment777[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChristPMossie[/bold] wrote: I see that kid with with the red Jacket shouting NATIONAL FRONT is national front racist Tom Nelson from Seaforth Road Astley Bridge who is already facing charges for his racism and violent behaviour. http://www.thebolton news.co.uk/news/crim e/11029227.Bolton_Cr imewatch_suspect_cha rged_after_EDL_prote st_in_Birmingham/?re f=nt[/p][/quote]It is persons who are willing to stand up against the threat who will protect your children's children from being burned, stabbed, racially abused, made to wear only accepted clothing, forced into unsolicited relationships and made to live in constant distress should they dishonour their family or partner...for which the penalty will be death by stoning and no person or persons would be held accountable in fact the perpetrators of the killing will be celebrated as a hero or heroes...[/p][/quote]Strange I've met many muslims, They've never attacked or threatened my family, they've never threatened to Burn Stab or racially abuse my family or children, they've never imposed Islam onto me and they certainly haven't threatened to stone me or any of my family. This world you live in , I don't recognise it. ChristPMossie
  • Score: 8

7:45pm Fri 4 Jul 14

StopwiththeBS says...

Ive Cooper wrote:
Beyond News Forum wrote:
4,867 signatures against the plans and one with 3,308 in favour. How on Earth does that work in favour of the community?

I sense a huge amount of public anger descending on this town, and not just because of this Mosque. Sh!t is going to kick off big time, it is only a matter of time."As I look ahead, I am filled with foreboding; like the Roman, I seem to see 'the River Tiber foaming with much blood.'Ah i see. another National Front fan....
[quote][p][bold]Ive Cooper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Beyond News Forum[/bold] wrote: 4,867 signatures against the plans and one with 3,308 in favour. How on Earth does that work in favour of the community? I sense a huge amount of public anger descending on this town, and not just because of this Mosque. Sh!t is going to kick off big time, it is only a matter of time.[/p][/quote]"As I look ahead, I am filled with foreboding; like the Roman, I seem to see 'the River Tiber foaming with much blood.'Ah i see. another National Front fan.... StopwiththeBS
  • Score: 5

7:47pm Fri 4 Jul 14

StopwiththeBS says...

Mick England wrote:
jackielucas59 wrote:
Dobbo1973 wrote:
It's a travesty point one they say its only replacing the old building but it will hold 300 more people. Point two I read that somebody got there extension turned down for being to imposing. I suppose towers and domes don't come into that bracket why can't the new building just blend in with everything else is there really a need for domes and towers as the existing building doesn't have them so I presume it's not important for the religious aspect maybe it's for the islamification of Bolton I think our town is being sold down the river and these so called councillors aren't thinking about the town and what it will be like in another 10/20 years. I'm already thinking of leaving its a joke
Everyone in Bolton had their chance to vote for their councillors at the last election. yet very few bothered to turn out to use that vote, but every Muslim in Bolton did, hence they got their mosque. If you dont use your vote then you can not have a shout when things go wrong. Those councillors know who to keep sweet because they know they will get their votes. Thinkon at the next electon.
Hopefully people will show their disgust at the next elections, if not it's pointless spouting it off on here, the BN isn't standing for council! But then again we saw today that votes against the application far exceeded votes for, yet planning was granted, why? Either the council isn't listening to its constituents or brown envolopes can sway the final decision!
You know a petition isn't an actual vote dont you?

oh no...clearly not.
[quote][p][bold]Mick England[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jackielucas59[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dobbo1973[/bold] wrote: It's a travesty point one they say its only replacing the old building but it will hold 300 more people. Point two I read that somebody got there extension turned down for being to imposing. I suppose towers and domes don't come into that bracket why can't the new building just blend in with everything else is there really a need for domes and towers as the existing building doesn't have them so I presume it's not important for the religious aspect maybe it's for the islamification of Bolton I think our town is being sold down the river and these so called councillors aren't thinking about the town and what it will be like in another 10/20 years. I'm already thinking of leaving its a joke[/p][/quote]Everyone in Bolton had their chance to vote for their councillors at the last election. yet very few bothered to turn out to use that vote, but every Muslim in Bolton did, hence they got their mosque. If you dont use your vote then you can not have a shout when things go wrong. Those councillors know who to keep sweet because they know they will get their votes. Thinkon at the next electon.[/p][/quote]Hopefully people will show their disgust at the next elections, if not it's pointless spouting it off on here, the BN isn't standing for council! But then again we saw today that votes against the application far exceeded votes for, yet planning was granted, why? Either the council isn't listening to its constituents or brown envolopes can sway the final decision![/p][/quote]You know a petition isn't an actual vote dont you? oh no...clearly not. StopwiththeBS
  • Score: 6

7:49pm Fri 4 Jul 14

StopwiththeBS says...

DAUBHILL85 wrote:
johnnyjackson wrote:
DAUBHILL85 wrote:
johnnyjackson says... If you disagree entirely, what do you claim to be? A non racist, peace lover?

I am what I am - we are what we are, none of us are perfect.
Thank you for admitting you are what you are.... We know what that is as admitted by yourself.
WHICH IS THIS - I am sick to death at the state of this country and what various governments have allowed it to get into regarding immigration which has gone uncontrolled for 50 years or more and still continuing now.
And low and behold It has now become a dumping ground for third world countries, daubhil, deane ,great lever is now being overrun with mostly African citizens milking our welfare system, housing, schools, nhs ( IT SHOULD BE RENAMED IHS- INTERNATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE)
Not to mention half of Europe being here too, it's our benefits and free housing, free schools, free nhs, etc,etc that is the main attraction here, there's no doubt about it.
Does that annoy me or make me racist ?
Yes
[quote][p][bold]DAUBHILL85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]johnnyjackson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DAUBHILL85[/bold] wrote: johnnyjackson says... If you disagree entirely, what do you claim to be? A non racist, peace lover? I am what I am - we are what we are, none of us are perfect.[/p][/quote]Thank you for admitting you are what you are.... We know what that is as admitted by yourself.[/p][/quote]WHICH IS THIS - I am sick to death at the state of this country and what various governments have allowed it to get into regarding immigration which has gone uncontrolled for 50 years or more and still continuing now. And low and behold It has now become a dumping ground for third world countries, daubhil, deane ,great lever is now being overrun with mostly African citizens milking our welfare system, housing, schools, nhs ( IT SHOULD BE RENAMED IHS- INTERNATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE) Not to mention half of Europe being here too, it's our benefits and free housing, free schools, free nhs, etc,etc that is the main attraction here, there's no doubt about it. Does that annoy me or make me racist ?[/p][/quote]Yes StopwiththeBS
  • Score: 0

7:51pm Fri 4 Jul 14

StopwiththeBS says...

bolton12 wrote:
TilerJ wrote:
Rivers of blood? Have you heard yourselves? You're inciting violence with your words, but I think that's exactly what you're after. At least the muslims followed the due process. And your islamophobic personalities isn't a valid reason to oppose a building even if you keep trying to hide behind 'traffic issues'.
I suppose you probably don't travel up Blackburn Road?? As for violence can I just remind you - London 7/7, Twin Towers 9/11, Syria!!!
The crusades anyone? Anyone?

Nazi Germany?

IRA Bombings? the guy in southampton last week who was arrested for making a load of cyanide to kill muslims with?

The sooner you all stop being scared of people who aren't trying to kill you and start working together to find the ones that are, and prevent more from wanting to, the better
[quote][p][bold]bolton12[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TilerJ[/bold] wrote: Rivers of blood? Have you heard yourselves? You're inciting violence with your words, but I think that's exactly what you're after. At least the muslims followed the due process. And your islamophobic personalities isn't a valid reason to oppose a building even if you keep trying to hide behind 'traffic issues'.[/p][/quote]I suppose you probably don't travel up Blackburn Road?? As for violence can I just remind you - London 7/7, Twin Towers 9/11, Syria!!![/p][/quote]The crusades anyone? Anyone? Nazi Germany? IRA Bombings? the guy in southampton last week who was arrested for making a load of cyanide to kill muslims with? The sooner you all stop being scared of people who aren't trying to kill you and start working together to find the ones that are, and prevent more from wanting to, the better StopwiththeBS
  • Score: 4

8:10pm Fri 4 Jul 14

bolton12 says...

StopwiththeBS wrote:
bolton12 wrote:
TilerJ wrote:
Rivers of blood? Have you heard yourselves? You're inciting violence with your words, but I think that's exactly what you're after. At least the muslims followed the due process. And your islamophobic personalities isn't a valid reason to oppose a building even if you keep trying to hide behind 'traffic issues'.
I suppose you probably don't travel up Blackburn Road?? As for violence can I just remind you - London 7/7, Twin Towers 9/11, Syria!!!
The crusades anyone? Anyone?

Nazi Germany?

IRA Bombings? the guy in southampton last week who was arrested for making a load of cyanide to kill muslims with?

The sooner you all stop being scared of people who aren't trying to kill you and start working together to find the ones that are, and prevent more from wanting to, the better
StopwiththeBS - I am not saying they are the only violent ones. There is needless violence all over the world however I am not racist or scared, I just oppose the eyesore of the building that I will drive past daily very slowly due to congestion! I have many friends of different beliefs. May I also add that I would oppose it if was going to be another supermarket or retail park!
[quote][p][bold]StopwiththeBS[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bolton12[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TilerJ[/bold] wrote: Rivers of blood? Have you heard yourselves? You're inciting violence with your words, but I think that's exactly what you're after. At least the muslims followed the due process. And your islamophobic personalities isn't a valid reason to oppose a building even if you keep trying to hide behind 'traffic issues'.[/p][/quote]I suppose you probably don't travel up Blackburn Road?? As for violence can I just remind you - London 7/7, Twin Towers 9/11, Syria!!![/p][/quote]The crusades anyone? Anyone? Nazi Germany? IRA Bombings? the guy in southampton last week who was arrested for making a load of cyanide to kill muslims with? The sooner you all stop being scared of people who aren't trying to kill you and start working together to find the ones that are, and prevent more from wanting to, the better[/p][/quote]StopwiththeBS - I am not saying they are the only violent ones. There is needless violence all over the world however I am not racist or scared, I just oppose the eyesore of the building that I will drive past daily very slowly due to congestion! I have many friends of different beliefs. May I also add that I would oppose it if was going to be another supermarket or retail park! bolton12
  • Score: -2

8:18pm Fri 4 Jul 14

bolton12 says...

Michael Collins71 wrote:
bolton12 wrote:
did-i-just-say-that wrote:
What a disgrace! Absolute travesty! And I'm not talking about the mosque!

Just look at that knuckle dragging chav with his Stone Island hoodie kicking chairs over because he didn't get his way!

I hope this video footage leads to a prosecution under a public order laws!
Maybe your just a snob 'judging' people for what they are wearing - where were you or will this not affect you!! It's a shame the Bolton news did not show the women in burka's sticking V up and taking the mickey out of the disabled man, or the Muslim's doing signs of 'throats being slits. Then again that would probably not be politically correct or maybe they just were not wearing 'Stone Island'.
Is this disabled man the same disabled man who has stood for 4 hours a day for over a week mithering select people for signatures? The same one who kicks over chairs ? I hope this man works as he is clearly able to.
Michael Collins71: I don't know if the disabled man was asking people to sign the petition, but he was not the one who kicked the chair over, no; and in reply to your question yes he does work as does the man who kicked the chair over and always has! I wonder if the plans were rejected what the reaction would have been?
[quote][p][bold]Michael Collins71[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bolton12[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]did-i-just-say-that[/bold] wrote: What a disgrace! Absolute travesty! And I'm not talking about the mosque! Just look at that knuckle dragging chav with his Stone Island hoodie kicking chairs over because he didn't get his way! I hope this video footage leads to a prosecution under a public order laws![/p][/quote]Maybe your just a snob 'judging' people for what they are wearing - where were you or will this not affect you!! It's a shame the Bolton news did not show the women in burka's sticking V up and taking the mickey out of the disabled man, or the Muslim's doing signs of 'throats being slits. Then again that would probably not be politically correct or maybe they just were not wearing 'Stone Island'.[/p][/quote]Is this disabled man the same disabled man who has stood for 4 hours a day for over a week mithering select people for signatures? The same one who kicks over chairs ? I hope this man works as he is clearly able to.[/p][/quote]Michael Collins71: I don't know if the disabled man was asking people to sign the petition, but he was not the one who kicked the chair over, no; and in reply to your question yes he does work as does the man who kicked the chair over and always has! I wonder if the plans were rejected what the reaction would have been? bolton12
  • Score: -4

8:47pm Fri 4 Jul 14

DAUBHILL85 says...

StopwiththeBS wrote:
DAUBHILL85 wrote:
johnnyjackson wrote:
DAUBHILL85 wrote:
johnnyjackson says... If you disagree entirely, what do you claim to be? A non racist, peace lover?

I am what I am - we are what we are, none of us are perfect.
Thank you for admitting you are what you are.... We know what that is as admitted by yourself.
WHICH IS THIS - I am sick to death at the state of this country and what various governments have allowed it to get into regarding immigration which has gone uncontrolled for 50 years or more and still continuing now.
And low and behold It has now become a dumping ground for third world countries, daubhil, deane ,great lever is now being overrun with mostly African citizens milking our welfare system, housing, schools, nhs ( IT SHOULD BE RENAMED IHS- INTERNATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE)
Not to mention half of Europe being here too, it's our benefits and free housing, free schools, free nhs, etc,etc that is the main attraction here, there's no doubt about it.
Does that annoy me or make me racist ?
Yes
Then get used to it and get over it :-)
[quote][p][bold]StopwiththeBS[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DAUBHILL85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]johnnyjackson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DAUBHILL85[/bold] wrote: johnnyjackson says... If you disagree entirely, what do you claim to be? A non racist, peace lover? I am what I am - we are what we are, none of us are perfect.[/p][/quote]Thank you for admitting you are what you are.... We know what that is as admitted by yourself.[/p][/quote]WHICH IS THIS - I am sick to death at the state of this country and what various governments have allowed it to get into regarding immigration which has gone uncontrolled for 50 years or more and still continuing now. And low and behold It has now become a dumping ground for third world countries, daubhil, deane ,great lever is now being overrun with mostly African citizens milking our welfare system, housing, schools, nhs ( IT SHOULD BE RENAMED IHS- INTERNATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE) Not to mention half of Europe being here too, it's our benefits and free housing, free schools, free nhs, etc,etc that is the main attraction here, there's no doubt about it. Does that annoy me or make me racist ?[/p][/quote]Yes[/p][/quote]Then get used to it and get over it :-) DAUBHILL85
  • Score: -2

9:33pm Fri 4 Jul 14

Beyond News Forum says...

StopwiththeBS wrote:
Ive Cooper wrote:
Beyond News Forum wrote:
4,867 signatures against the plans and one with 3,308 in favour. How on Earth does that work in favour of the community?

I sense a huge amount of public anger descending on this town, and not just because of this Mosque. Sh!t is going to kick off big time, it is only a matter of time."As I look ahead, I am filled with foreboding; like the Roman, I seem to see 'the River Tiber foaming with much blood.'Ah i see. another National Front fan....Actually clever ar$e the quote that the OP of the comment you have attached to mine is that of Enoch Powell and not of the NF.

Now considering that the BNP, The NF, EDL and even the Nazi's have largely been ineffective in their agendas your point is lost somewhere between bullshittery and mainstream news and political propaganda.

You cannot cry 'racist' at people who do not want a Mosque building in their backyard, and nor should Muslims have to build such a huge monstrosity to replace a Mosque that is apparently serving the same amount of people that already use it.

I am going to echo what a previous poster has asked...

Will the Mosque drop the one entrance for men and one for women and act in the true community spirit that they profess to be following when stating that the building is for the community..? Or never mind the posters shouting racist, the Mosque goes against the equality laws of the land. A little like Bolton School.
[quote][p][bold]StopwiththeBS[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ive Cooper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Beyond News Forum[/bold] wrote: 4,867 signatures against the plans and one with 3,308 in favour. How on Earth does that work in favour of the community? I sense a huge amount of public anger descending on this town, and not just because of this Mosque. Sh!t is going to kick off big time, it is only a matter of time.[/p][/quote]"As I look ahead, I am filled with foreboding; like the Roman, I seem to see 'the River Tiber foaming with much blood.'Ah i see. another National Front fan....[/p][/quote]Actually clever ar$e the quote that the OP of the comment you have attached to mine is that of Enoch Powell and not of the NF. Now considering that the BNP, The NF, EDL and even the Nazi's have largely been ineffective in their agendas your point is lost somewhere between bullshittery and mainstream news and political propaganda. You cannot cry 'racist' at people who do not want a Mosque building in their backyard, and nor should Muslims have to build such a huge monstrosity to replace a Mosque that is apparently serving the same amount of people that already use it. I am going to echo what a previous poster has asked... Will the Mosque drop the one entrance for men and one for women and act in the true community spirit that they profess to be following when stating that the building is for the community..? Or never mind the posters shouting racist, the Mosque goes against the equality laws of the land. A little like Bolton School. Beyond News Forum
  • Score: -2

9:39pm Fri 4 Jul 14

Beyond News Forum says...

StopwiththeBS wrote:
Ive Cooper wrote:
Beyond News Forum wrote:
4,867 signatures against the plans and one with 3,308 in favour. How on Earth does that work in favour of the community?

I sense a huge amount of public anger descending on this town, and not just because of this Mosque. Sh!t is going to kick off big time, it is only a matter of time.
"As I look ahead, I am filled with foreboding; like the Roman, I seem to see 'the River Tiber foaming with much blood.'Ah i see. another National Front fan....
Try again

Actually clever ar$e the quote that the OP of the comment you have attached to mine is that of Enoch Powell and not of the NF.

Now considering that the BNP, The NF, EDL and even the Nazi's have largely been ineffective in their agendas your point is lost somewhere between bullshittery and mainstream news and political propaganda.

You cannot cry 'racist' at people who do not want a Mosque building in their backyard, and nor should Muslims have to build such a huge monstrosity to replace a Mosque that is apparently serving the same amount of people that already use it.

I am going to echo what a previous poster has asked...

Will the Mosque drop the one entrance for men and one for women and act in the true community spirit that they profess to be following when stating that the building is for the community..? Or never mind the posters shouting racist, the Mosque goes against the equality laws of the land. A little like Bolton School.
[quote][p][bold]StopwiththeBS[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ive Cooper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Beyond News Forum[/bold] wrote: 4,867 signatures against the plans and one with 3,308 in favour. How on Earth does that work in favour of the community? I sense a huge amount of public anger descending on this town, and not just because of this Mosque. Sh!t is going to kick off big time, it is only a matter of time.[/p][/quote]"As I look ahead, I am filled with foreboding; like the Roman, I seem to see 'the River Tiber foaming with much blood.'Ah i see. another National Front fan....[/p][/quote][/quote] Try again Actually clever ar$e the quote that the OP of the comment you have attached to mine is that of Enoch Powell and not of the NF. Now considering that the BNP, The NF, EDL and even the Nazi's have largely been ineffective in their agendas your point is lost somewhere between bullshittery and mainstream news and political propaganda. You cannot cry 'racist' at people who do not want a Mosque building in their backyard, and nor should Muslims have to build such a huge monstrosity to replace a Mosque that is apparently serving the same amount of people that already use it. I am going to echo what a previous poster has asked... Will the Mosque drop the one entrance for men and one for women and act in the true community spirit that they profess to be following when stating that the building is for the community..? Or never mind the posters shouting racist, the Mosque goes against the equality laws of the land. A little like Bolton School. Beyond News Forum
  • Score: -2

10:22pm Fri 4 Jul 14

bolton12 says...

bolton12 wrote:
StopwiththeBS wrote:
bolton12 wrote:
TilerJ wrote:
Rivers of blood? Have you heard yourselves? You're inciting violence with your words, but I think that's exactly what you're after. At least the muslims followed the due process. And your islamophobic personalities isn't a valid reason to oppose a building even if you keep trying to hide behind 'traffic issues'.
I suppose you probably don't travel up Blackburn Road?? As for violence can I just remind you - London 7/7, Twin Towers 9/11, Syria!!!
The crusades anyone? Anyone?

Nazi Germany?

IRA Bombings? the guy in southampton last week who was arrested for making a load of cyanide to kill muslims with?

The sooner you all stop being scared of people who aren't trying to kill you and start working together to find the ones that are, and prevent more from wanting to, the better
StopwiththeBS - I am not saying they are the only violent ones. There is needless violence all over the world however I am not racist or scared, I just oppose the eyesore of the building that I will drive past daily very slowly due to congestion! I have many friends of different beliefs. May I also add that I would oppose it if was going to be another supermarket or retail park!
i see ian upton is at it again ha ha ha you will be pleased to know darcy lever is on the radar
[quote][p][bold]bolton12[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StopwiththeBS[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bolton12[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TilerJ[/bold] wrote: Rivers of blood? Have you heard yourselves? You're inciting violence with your words, but I think that's exactly what you're after. At least the muslims followed the due process. And your islamophobic personalities isn't a valid reason to oppose a building even if you keep trying to hide behind 'traffic issues'.[/p][/quote]I suppose you probably don't travel up Blackburn Road?? As for violence can I just remind you - London 7/7, Twin Towers 9/11, Syria!!![/p][/quote]The crusades anyone? Anyone? Nazi Germany? IRA Bombings? the guy in southampton last week who was arrested for making a load of cyanide to kill muslims with? The sooner you all stop being scared of people who aren't trying to kill you and start working together to find the ones that are, and prevent more from wanting to, the better[/p][/quote]StopwiththeBS - I am not saying they are the only violent ones. There is needless violence all over the world however I am not racist or scared, I just oppose the eyesore of the building that I will drive past daily very slowly due to congestion! I have many friends of different beliefs. May I also add that I would oppose it if was going to be another supermarket or retail park![/p][/quote]i see ian upton is at it again ha ha ha you will be pleased to know darcy lever is on the radar bolton12
  • Score: -3

12:58am Sat 5 Jul 14

if only... says...

pradagucci wrote:
lushcreep wrote:
I feel unsafe enough as it is. Walking by the mosque and around Halliwell, i get harassed and shamed by local residents for how I dress- which is perfectly normal for a British girl. I feel as if I'm not in England anymore. Not to mention it taking 1hr to get from town centre to Belmont road during mosque times, because the traffic is so terrible there at the moment. Considering moving to another town, but god knows, it will probably end up like this all over England
You get harassed and shamed? whatever lush, what are you miss bolton? no one stops you dressing the way you want, you dress the way the media and society dictate fashion, even if your uncomfortable, no one throws abuse at you daily so stop talking rubbish. why is it the mosques fault that theres loads of traffic? just like its bwfc fault that its mayhem when its football match? i remember when it was on manchester road, that was even a bigger joke.
If you think chavvy women who have been victims of hate crime from muslim youths r not important to the debate then perhaps being called naked scum, etc. For only having your shoulders and ankles uncovered, n being sworn at n threatened dressed in work clothes not looking lush,
is okay in the uk..? I think Not.
[quote][p][bold]pradagucci[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lushcreep[/bold] wrote: I feel unsafe enough as it is. Walking by the mosque and around Halliwell, i get harassed and shamed by local residents for how I dress- which is perfectly normal for a British girl. I feel as if I'm not in England anymore. Not to mention it taking 1hr to get from town centre to Belmont road during mosque times, because the traffic is so terrible there at the moment. Considering moving to another town, but god knows, it will probably end up like this all over England[/p][/quote]You get harassed and shamed? whatever lush, what are you miss bolton? no one stops you dressing the way you want, you dress the way the media and society dictate fashion, even if your uncomfortable, no one throws abuse at you daily so stop talking rubbish. why is it the mosques fault that theres loads of traffic? just like its bwfc fault that its mayhem when its football match? i remember when it was on manchester road, that was even a bigger joke.[/p][/quote]If you think chavvy women who have been victims of hate crime from muslim youths r not important to the debate then perhaps being called naked scum, etc. For only having your shoulders and ankles uncovered, n being sworn at n threatened dressed in work clothes not looking lush, is okay in the uk..? I think Not. if only...
  • Score: -1

4:15am Sat 5 Jul 14

DAUBHILL85 says...

if only... wrote:
pradagucci wrote:
lushcreep wrote:
I feel unsafe enough as it is. Walking by the mosque and around Halliwell, i get harassed and shamed by local residents for how I dress- which is perfectly normal for a British girl. I feel as if I'm not in England anymore. Not to mention it taking 1hr to get from town centre to Belmont road during mosque times, because the traffic is so terrible there at the moment. Considering moving to another town, but god knows, it will probably end up like this all over England
You get harassed and shamed? whatever lush, what are you miss bolton? no one stops you dressing the way you want, you dress the way the media and society dictate fashion, even if your uncomfortable, no one throws abuse at you daily so stop talking rubbish. why is it the mosques fault that theres loads of traffic? just like its bwfc fault that its mayhem when its football match? i remember when it was on manchester road, that was even a bigger joke.
If you think chavvy women who have been victims of hate crime from muslim youths r not important to the debate then perhaps being called naked scum, etc. For only having your shoulders and ankles uncovered, n being sworn at n threatened dressed in work clothes not looking lush,
is okay in the uk..? I think Not.
What do they care about (chavvy) women.... let's not skirt around the facts here what they really mean is white women....but most are ashamed to walk out their own front doors or down the street with their own kind side by side.
[quote][p][bold]if only...[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pradagucci[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lushcreep[/bold] wrote: I feel unsafe enough as it is. Walking by the mosque and around Halliwell, i get harassed and shamed by local residents for how I dress- which is perfectly normal for a British girl. I feel as if I'm not in England anymore. Not to mention it taking 1hr to get from town centre to Belmont road during mosque times, because the traffic is so terrible there at the moment. Considering moving to another town, but god knows, it will probably end up like this all over England[/p][/quote]You get harassed and shamed? whatever lush, what are you miss bolton? no one stops you dressing the way you want, you dress the way the media and society dictate fashion, even if your uncomfortable, no one throws abuse at you daily so stop talking rubbish. why is it the mosques fault that theres loads of traffic? just like its bwfc fault that its mayhem when its football match? i remember when it was on manchester road, that was even a bigger joke.[/p][/quote]If you think chavvy women who have been victims of hate crime from muslim youths r not important to the debate then perhaps being called naked scum, etc. For only having your shoulders and ankles uncovered, n being sworn at n threatened dressed in work clothes not looking lush, is okay in the uk..? I think Not.[/p][/quote]What do they care about (chavvy) women.... let's not skirt around the facts here what they really mean is white women....but most are ashamed to walk out their own front doors or down the street with their own kind side by side. DAUBHILL85
  • Score: -2

7:00am Sat 5 Jul 14

BromleyCrossWanderer says...

What a sad sad situation. I'm a typical white dude, educated in Bolton and still live in Bolton.

A bunch of ill-mannered uneducated, bigoted racists disrupting a public meeting the way they did. Makes me feel ashamed to say I'm from Bolton.

The Town and the folks from the town have so much to be proud of. We should be looking for some leadership, especially those who have a high media profile to integrate the population and celebrate all that is good. We should be proud that the muslim community want to invest in new facilities. Come on Amir Khan, Peter Kay, Jason Kenny, Sarah Cox et al - come to your town and help it celebrate its diversity and its cultural heritage and its future development

If the Christians of our town may feel threatened by such a vibrant muslim community but they should not. The Christians can learn so much from observing the strong religious and community bond that the muslims share. Just take a look around at the decaying churches, the dwindling attendees on a Sunday.

Perhaps if the council and the C of E, Methodist and Catholic organisations could put some real effort and commitment into injecting some vibrancy, make the organisations fun and make them inclusive of the society around them they too could have new facilities and a community bond they could be proud of.

The investment will be £m's and will bring many benefits to many people, yes the traffic issue and yes the impact on residents should be carefully considered but all can be resolved.

As for the ignorant and uneducated, they should be forgiven and prayed for, they need help to understand that we have a great town and this development is good for the town.
What a sad sad situation. I'm a typical white dude, educated in Bolton and still live in Bolton. A bunch of ill-mannered uneducated, bigoted racists disrupting a public meeting the way they did. Makes me feel ashamed to say I'm from Bolton. The Town and the folks from the town have so much to be proud of. We should be looking for some leadership, especially those who have a high media profile to integrate the population and celebrate all that is good. We should be proud that the muslim community want to invest in new facilities. Come on Amir Khan, Peter Kay, Jason Kenny, Sarah Cox et al - come to your town and help it celebrate its diversity and its cultural heritage and its future development If the Christians of our town may feel threatened by such a vibrant muslim community but they should not. The Christians can learn so much from observing the strong religious and community bond that the muslims share. Just take a look around at the decaying churches, the dwindling attendees on a Sunday. Perhaps if the council and the C of E, Methodist and Catholic organisations could put some real effort and commitment into injecting some vibrancy, make the organisations fun and make them inclusive of the society around them they too could have new facilities and a community bond they could be proud of. The investment will be £m's and will bring many benefits to many people, yes the traffic issue and yes the impact on residents should be carefully considered but all can be resolved. As for the ignorant and uneducated, they should be forgiven and prayed for, they need help to understand that we have a great town and this development is good for the town. BromleyCrossWanderer
  • Score: 0

8:09am Sat 5 Jul 14

Snakestail says...

What slipped by most people was, during the recent local elections the heavy muslim area of Halliwell ward submitted several candidates but only one of whom was Asian the rest were white/black British.

Wow what a surprise that the Asian candidate received 2000+ votes way more than anyone else listed.

So next time there is an election all the parties are going to use that strategy, flood the ballot with Asian candidates to get a share of the Asian votes in that ward.

This will then fill more seats on the council with Asian councillors, regardless of party allegiance, you are going to put more Asian bums on council seats and then...

see how many mosque proposals are accepted.

We are using politics and the greed for your votes to slip in more Asian government because the trash white/black layabouts that can't be bothered to vote at all, or vote for the looney parties of the extremist idiots with one agenda...keep Britain British and oh, we don't know what to do about health, welfare, jobs, education, law & order or any of that stuff. Just kick out these foreigners blah blah...idiot parties.

So next time there is an election, just vote properly.
What slipped by most people was, during the recent local elections the heavy muslim area of Halliwell ward submitted several candidates but only one of whom was Asian the rest were white/black British. Wow what a surprise that the Asian candidate received 2000+ votes way more than anyone else listed. So next time there is an election all the parties are going to use that strategy, flood the ballot with Asian candidates to get a share of the Asian votes in that ward. This will then fill more seats on the council with Asian councillors, regardless of party allegiance, you are going to put more Asian bums on council seats and then... see how many mosque proposals are accepted. We are using politics and the greed for your votes to slip in more Asian government because the trash white/black layabouts that can't be bothered to vote at all, or vote for the looney parties of the extremist idiots with one agenda...keep Britain British and oh, we don't know what to do about health, welfare, jobs, education, law & order or any of that stuff. Just kick out these foreigners blah blah...idiot parties. So next time there is an election, just vote properly. Snakestail
  • Score: 2

9:12am Sat 5 Jul 14

longballs r us says...

Dobbo1973 wrote:
It's a travesty point one they say its only replacing the old building but it will hold 300 more people. Point two I read that somebody got there extension turned down for being to imposing. I suppose towers and domes don't come into that bracket why can't the new building just blend in with everything else is there really a need for domes and towers as the existing building doesn't have them so I presume it's not important for the religious aspect maybe it's for the islamification of Bolton I think our town is being sold down the river and these so called councillors aren't thinking about the town and what it will be like in another 10/20 years. I'm already thinking of leaving its a joke
Leave! Who are you waiting for?
[quote][p][bold]Dobbo1973[/bold] wrote: It's a travesty point one they say its only replacing the old building but it will hold 300 more people. Point two I read that somebody got there extension turned down for being to imposing. I suppose towers and domes don't come into that bracket why can't the new building just blend in with everything else is there really a need for domes and towers as the existing building doesn't have them so I presume it's not important for the religious aspect maybe it's for the islamification of Bolton I think our town is being sold down the river and these so called councillors aren't thinking about the town and what it will be like in another 10/20 years. I'm already thinking of leaving its a joke[/p][/quote]Leave! Who are you waiting for? longballs r us
  • Score: 1

10:37am Sat 5 Jul 14

ronaldoooo says...

I feel very sad that the town I was born and have lived in for nearly 50 years is in so much decline. The approval of this mosque, which will effect me and thousands of others who use Blackburn Road daily, is just the latest in a long line of head scratching decisions that have been made by the council. I can only assume that the 13 people who approved the plans do not live this side of Bolton so think it doesn't affect me so don't care.. It seems this council is systematically trying to destroy Bolton, or at least the planning committee, the same committee who allowed the destruction of the market hall... I understand that all faiths need place to worship but why when there are already 2 mosques back to back is another needed? I have read some of the documents submitted to the planning office and it states that the majority users of the new mosque live within 2 miles so will walk. I live within 2 miles of Asda AB but would not walk if it was raining, the same way these worshippers will not walk to the mosque. What happens then with only 80 parking spaces, Blackburn Road will become even more of a car park that it is already. You can put yellow-lines everywhere but it wont make any difference. Perhaps someone should submit a plan to build a flyover from Bolton town centre to Astley Bridge, sorry it would be declined on the grounds it would be an eyesore. Perhaps if you put a dome and turret on it we may get it passed. Seriously I don't blame people for getting angry but don't condone violence. I do blame people though for moaning about the council when they have either voted them in or have not even bothered to vote at all. It you want to have a voice getup off you bottom next year and vote this joke of a council out and put someone in who cares...
I feel very sad that the town I was born and have lived in for nearly 50 years is in so much decline. The approval of this mosque, which will effect me and thousands of others who use Blackburn Road daily, is just the latest in a long line of head scratching decisions that have been made by the council. I can only assume that the 13 people who approved the plans do not live this side of Bolton so think it doesn't affect me so don't care.. It seems this council is systematically trying to destroy Bolton, or at least the planning committee, the same committee who allowed the destruction of the market hall... I understand that all faiths need place to worship but why when there are already 2 mosques back to back is another needed? I have read some of the documents submitted to the planning office and it states that the majority users of the new mosque live within 2 miles so will walk. I live within 2 miles of Asda AB but would not walk if it was raining, the same way these worshippers will not walk to the mosque. What happens then with only 80 parking spaces, Blackburn Road will become even more of a car park that it is already. You can put yellow-lines everywhere but it wont make any difference. Perhaps someone should submit a plan to build a flyover from Bolton town centre to Astley Bridge, sorry it would be declined on the grounds it would be an eyesore. Perhaps if you put a dome and turret on it we may get it passed. Seriously I don't blame people for getting angry but don't condone violence. I do blame people though for moaning about the council when they have either voted them in or have not even bothered to vote at all. It you want to have a voice getup off you bottom next year and vote this joke of a council out and put someone in who cares... ronaldoooo
  • Score: 6

12:01pm Sat 5 Jul 14

spiritus says...

Am I the only one to question the journalistic responsibility of the Bolton News in publishing a video of a meeting that bans the use of cameras and other recording devices ?

People can clearly be identified on the video.

I am not defending the idiots who embarassed themselves with their neanderthal outburst but there are others in the meeting who can clearly be identified.
Am I the only one to question the journalistic responsibility of the Bolton News in publishing a video of a meeting that bans the use of cameras and other recording devices ? People can clearly be identified on the video. I am not defending the idiots who embarassed themselves with their neanderthal outburst but there are others in the meeting who can clearly be identified. spiritus
  • Score: 0

12:09pm Sat 5 Jul 14

Comment777 says...

mattaiuseire wrote:
Comment777 wrote:
thomas222 wrote:
mattaiuseire wrote:
joanne patricia openshaw sanders wrote:
Firstly let me say sorry for swearing at the meeting, i am not against anything being built to enhance the community but i do think this was a done deal not only does it affect Blackburn road traffic but also Halliwell road traffic. whichever road you go up during prayer time each road is just as busy it is only going to be a matter of time before someone is killed crossing any of the roads i have seen children as young as 5 and 6 having to cross Halliwell road after coming out of the Mosque and having to cross the road coming from behind parked cars.. At least they should have had the brains to do a proper report on both roads for the safety of everyone you only see half a story on here i thought phones were supposed to be switched off at these meetings seems it ok for some of the minority to video it and put it in the local paper showing it to be as one sided never mind the abuse one young woman had to endure whilst just passing to go to the ladies and the abuse came from a young man that was in favour of the mosque all i am saying is there are three sides to a story and you will never see things the same way everyone sees things differently and has their own opinions but it seems none of the councilors at the meeting live in Blackburn road or Halliwell so it wont affect them until someone is killed while crossing either road because of the congestion.
If that was the case then no buildings would be made at all. People do have to cross busy roads sometimes and the majority of people injured while crossing are hurt because they, not the drivers, were not paying attention.

I have no religion, but I respect peoples rights to believe whatever they want to. I'm not in favour of the mosque but at the same time using the old "schools for radicalisation" is just nonsense - I would urge anyone to provide proof on this absurd claim.
The majority of Muslims are very peaceful people, don't tar everyone with the same brush just because the media recites disinformation on every public broadcast.

What we need to be looking at is the real reason why those majority votes against were disregarded - we need to look at the puppets behind and what gain they get out of it.

As someone said already, those half witted inbreds that turn up throwing chairs and using coarse language are not the voice of the true people and protesting in this manner just shows what a bunch of jobsworths they really are. Vote with your feet.
After the 7/7 bombings the number of Majority peaceful Muslims you mention who took to the streets to protest against Minority Muslims killing in their name & the name of Islam was Zero. Three weeks later the same Majority peaceful Muslims you mention came on the streets in their thousands all over the Country & World because a newspaper printed some cartoons that offended them. Its not rocket science.
and how many peaceful muslims expressed their disgust at the butchering of an unarmed , off duty soldier in the middle of a busy street occupied by young families...NONE!!!!!


!!!!!!!

Wake up and don't just look but see what is happening!!
More nonsense. Find some proof that no Muslims have reacted angrily at this incident. Look for it, go on, Google is your power tool. At least research what you're talking about before you make such drastic claims because it makes you sound very foolish.
The question was how many, I say none. What is your answer?

How many muslims attended his funeral?
[quote][p][bold]mattaiuseire[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Comment777[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomas222[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mattaiuseire[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]joanne patricia openshaw sanders[/bold] wrote: Firstly let me say sorry for swearing at the meeting, i am not against anything being built to enhance the community but i do think this was a done deal not only does it affect Blackburn road traffic but also Halliwell road traffic. whichever road you go up during prayer time each road is just as busy it is only going to be a matter of time before someone is killed crossing any of the roads i have seen children as young as 5 and 6 having to cross Halliwell road after coming out of the Mosque and having to cross the road coming from behind parked cars.. At least they should have had the brains to do a proper report on both roads for the safety of everyone you only see half a story on here i thought phones were supposed to be switched off at these meetings seems it ok for some of the minority to video it and put it in the local paper showing it to be as one sided never mind the abuse one young woman had to endure whilst just passing to go to the ladies and the abuse came from a young man that was in favour of the mosque all i am saying is there are three sides to a story and you will never see things the same way everyone sees things differently and has their own opinions but it seems none of the councilors at the meeting live in Blackburn road or Halliwell so it wont affect them until someone is killed while crossing either road because of the congestion.[/p][/quote]If that was the case then no buildings would be made at all. People do have to cross busy roads sometimes and the majority of people injured while crossing are hurt because they, not the drivers, were not paying attention. I have no religion, but I respect peoples rights to believe whatever they want to. I'm not in favour of the mosque but at the same time using the old "schools for radicalisation" is just nonsense - I would urge anyone to provide proof on this absurd claim. The majority of Muslims are very peaceful people, don't tar everyone with the same brush just because the media recites disinformation on every public broadcast. What we need to be looking at is the real reason why those majority votes against were disregarded - we need to look at the puppets behind and what gain they get out of it. As someone said already, those half witted inbreds that turn up throwing chairs and using coarse language are not the voice of the true people and protesting in this manner just shows what a bunch of jobsworths they really are. Vote with your feet.[/p][/quote]After the 7/7 bombings the number of Majority peaceful Muslims you mention who took to the streets to protest against Minority Muslims killing in their name & the name of Islam was Zero. Three weeks later the same Majority peaceful Muslims you mention came on the streets in their thousands all over the Country & World because a newspaper printed some cartoons that offended them. Its not rocket science.[/p][/quote]and how many peaceful muslims expressed their disgust at the butchering of an unarmed , off duty soldier in the middle of a busy street occupied by young families...NONE!!!!! !!!!!!! Wake up and don't just look but see what is happening!![/p][/quote]More nonsense. Find some proof that no Muslims have reacted angrily at this incident. Look for it, go on, Google is your power tool. At least research what you're talking about before you make such drastic claims because it makes you sound very foolish.[/p][/quote]The question was how many, I say none. What is your answer? How many muslims attended his funeral? Comment777
  • Score: -1

12:15pm Sat 5 Jul 14

Comment777 says...

johnnyjackson wrote:
Comment777 wrote:
thomas222 wrote:
mattaiuseire wrote:
joanne patricia openshaw sanders wrote:
Firstly let me say sorry for swearing at the meeting, i am not against anything being built to enhance the community but i do think this was a done deal not only does it affect Blackburn road traffic but also Halliwell road traffic. whichever road you go up during prayer time each road is just as busy it is only going to be a matter of time before someone is killed crossing any of the roads i have seen children as young as 5 and 6 having to cross Halliwell road after coming out of the Mosque and having to cross the road coming from behind parked cars.. At least they should have had the brains to do a proper report on both roads for the safety of everyone you only see half a story on here i thought phones were supposed to be switched off at these meetings seems it ok for some of the minority to video it and put it in the local paper showing it to be as one sided never mind the abuse one young woman had to endure whilst just passing to go to the ladies and the abuse came from a young man that was in favour of the mosque all i am saying is there are three sides to a story and you will never see things the same way everyone sees things differently and has their own opinions but it seems none of the councilors at the meeting live in Blackburn road or Halliwell so it wont affect them until someone is killed while crossing either road because of the congestion.
If that was the case then no buildings would be made at all. People do have to cross busy roads sometimes and the majority of people injured while crossing are hurt because they, not the drivers, were not paying attention.

I have no religion, but I respect peoples rights to believe whatever they want to. I'm not in favour of the mosque but at the same time using the old "schools for radicalisation" is just nonsense - I would urge anyone to provide proof on this absurd claim.
The majority of Muslims are very peaceful people, don't tar everyone with the same brush just because the media recites disinformation on every public broadcast.

What we need to be looking at is the real reason why those majority votes against were disregarded - we need to look at the puppets behind and what gain they get out of it.

As someone said already, those half witted inbreds that turn up throwing chairs and using coarse language are not the voice of the true people and protesting in this manner just shows what a bunch of jobsworths they really are. Vote with your feet.
After the 7/7 bombings the number of Majority peaceful Muslims you mention who took to the streets to protest against Minority Muslims killing in their name & the name of Islam was Zero. Three weeks later the same Majority peaceful Muslims you mention came on the streets in their thousands all over the Country & World because a newspaper printed some cartoons that offended them. Its not rocket science.
and how many peaceful muslims expressed their disgust at the butchering of an unarmed , off duty soldier in the middle of a busy street occupied by young families...NONE!!!!!


!!!!!!!

Wake up and don't just look but see what is happening!!
None.... Because the soldier was killed by a lunatic non muslim.

How many christians took to the streets to protest about the innocent saudi arabian lady who was recently butchered?

How many christians took to the streets to protest against the Christian polish/norwegian guy who attempted to blow up the mosque or the russian student who did the same?

NONE!!!!!!!!!!!!
1, NOT TRUE

2. Is that not what happens to Saudi women, probably a family member

3. Why would they?
[quote][p][bold]johnnyjackson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Comment777[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomas222[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mattaiuseire[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]joanne patricia openshaw sanders[/bold] wrote: Firstly let me say sorry for swearing at the meeting, i am not against anything being built to enhance the community but i do think this was a done deal not only does it affect Blackburn road traffic but also Halliwell road traffic. whichever road you go up during prayer time each road is just as busy it is only going to be a matter of time before someone is killed crossing any of the roads i have seen children as young as 5 and 6 having to cross Halliwell road after coming out of the Mosque and having to cross the road coming from behind parked cars.. At least they should have had the brains to do a proper report on both roads for the safety of everyone you only see half a story on here i thought phones were supposed to be switched off at these meetings seems it ok for some of the minority to video it and put it in the local paper showing it to be as one sided never mind the abuse one young woman had to endure whilst just passing to go to the ladies and the abuse came from a young man that was in favour of the mosque all i am saying is there are three sides to a story and you will never see things the same way everyone sees things differently and has their own opinions but it seems none of the councilors at the meeting live in Blackburn road or Halliwell so it wont affect them until someone is killed while crossing either road because of the congestion.[/p][/quote]If that was the case then no buildings would be made at all. People do have to cross busy roads sometimes and the majority of people injured while crossing are hurt because they, not the drivers, were not paying attention. I have no religion, but I respect peoples rights to believe whatever they want to. I'm not in favour of the mosque but at the same time using the old "schools for radicalisation" is just nonsense - I would urge anyone to provide proof on this absurd claim. The majority of Muslims are very peaceful people, don't tar everyone with the same brush just because the media recites disinformation on every public broadcast. What we need to be looking at is the real reason why those majority votes against were disregarded - we need to look at the puppets behind and what gain they get out of it. As someone said already, those half witted inbreds that turn up throwing chairs and using coarse language are not the voice of the true people and protesting in this manner just shows what a bunch of jobsworths they really are. Vote with your feet.[/p][/quote]After the 7/7 bombings the number of Majority peaceful Muslims you mention who took to the streets to protest against Minority Muslims killing in their name & the name of Islam was Zero. Three weeks later the same Majority peaceful Muslims you mention came on the streets in their thousands all over the Country & World because a newspaper printed some cartoons that offended them. Its not rocket science.[/p][/quote]and how many peaceful muslims expressed their disgust at the butchering of an unarmed , off duty soldier in the middle of a busy street occupied by young families...NONE!!!!! !!!!!!! Wake up and don't just look but see what is happening!![/p][/quote]None.... Because the soldier was killed by a lunatic non muslim. How many christians took to the streets to protest about the innocent saudi arabian lady who was recently butchered? How many christians took to the streets to protest against the Christian polish/norwegian guy who attempted to blow up the mosque or the russian student who did the same? NONE!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]1, NOT TRUE 2. Is that not what happens to Saudi women, probably a family member 3. Why would they? Comment777
  • Score: 0

12:17pm Sat 5 Jul 14

Comment777 says...

Jamesuns wrote:
Comment777 wrote:
ChristPMossie wrote:
I see that kid with with the red Jacket shouting NATIONAL FRONT is national front racist Tom Nelson from Seaforth Road Astley Bridge who is already facing charges for his racism and violent behaviour.

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It is persons who are willing to stand up against the threat who will protect your children's children from being burned, stabbed, racially abused, made to wear only accepted clothing, forced into unsolicited relationships and made to live in constant distress should they dishonour their family or partner...for which the penalty will be death by stoning and no person or persons would be held accountable in fact the perpetrators of the killing will be celebrated as a hero or heroes...
people willing to stand up against a threat, these people were the ones making threats, also why would i need a facist to fight for me im quite capable of looking after myself and my own thank you, dont make out this is for me/us its purley for your own gratification!
Good luck with looking after your own. The word is spelt 'purely'.
[quote][p][bold]Jamesuns[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Comment777[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChristPMossie[/bold] wrote: I see that kid with with the red Jacket shouting NATIONAL FRONT is national front racist Tom Nelson from Seaforth Road Astley Bridge who is already facing charges for his racism and violent behaviour. http://www.thebolton news.co.uk/news/crim e/11029227.Bolton_Cr imewatch_suspect_cha rged_after_EDL_prote st_in_Birmingham/?re f=nt[/p][/quote]It is persons who are willing to stand up against the threat who will protect your children's children from being burned, stabbed, racially abused, made to wear only accepted clothing, forced into unsolicited relationships and made to live in constant distress should they dishonour their family or partner...for which the penalty will be death by stoning and no person or persons would be held accountable in fact the perpetrators of the killing will be celebrated as a hero or heroes...[/p][/quote]people willing to stand up against a threat, these people were the ones making threats, also why would i need a facist to fight for me im quite capable of looking after myself and my own thank you, dont make out this is for me/us its purley for your own gratification![/p][/quote]Good luck with looking after your own. The word is spelt 'purely'. Comment777
  • Score: 1

12:17pm Sat 5 Jul 14

Comment777 says...

Jamesuns wrote:
Comment777 wrote:
ChristPMossie wrote:
I see that kid with with the red Jacket shouting NATIONAL FRONT is national front racist Tom Nelson from Seaforth Road Astley Bridge who is already facing charges for his racism and violent behaviour.

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It is persons who are willing to stand up against the threat who will protect your children's children from being burned, stabbed, racially abused, made to wear only accepted clothing, forced into unsolicited relationships and made to live in constant distress should they dishonour their family or partner...for which the penalty will be death by stoning and no person or persons would be held accountable in fact the perpetrators of the killing will be celebrated as a hero or heroes...
people willing to stand up against a threat, these people were the ones making threats, also why would i need a facist to fight for me im quite capable of looking after myself and my own thank you, dont make out this is for me/us its purley for your own gratification!
Good luck with looking after your own. The word is spelt 'purely'.
[quote][p][bold]Jamesuns[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Comment777[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChristPMossie[/bold] wrote: I see that kid with with the red Jacket shouting NATIONAL FRONT is national front racist Tom Nelson from Seaforth Road Astley Bridge who is already facing charges for his racism and violent behaviour. http://www.thebolton news.co.uk/news/crim e/11029227.Bolton_Cr imewatch_suspect_cha rged_after_EDL_prote st_in_Birmingham/?re f=nt[/p][/quote]It is persons who are willing to stand up against the threat who will protect your children's children from being burned, stabbed, racially abused, made to wear only accepted clothing, forced into unsolicited relationships and made to live in constant distress should they dishonour their family or partner...for which the penalty will be death by stoning and no person or persons would be held accountable in fact the perpetrators of the killing will be celebrated as a hero or heroes...[/p][/quote]people willing to stand up against a threat, these people were the ones making threats, also why would i need a facist to fight for me im quite capable of looking after myself and my own thank you, dont make out this is for me/us its purley for your own gratification![/p][/quote]Good luck with looking after your own. The word is spelt 'purely'. Comment777
  • Score: -1

12:24pm Sat 5 Jul 14

Replytohatersandscum says...

TheOneTrueWord wrote:
We all know this mosque was going to get passed, there could have been 10,000 signatures against it and it still would have got planning permission from Bolton Council. I do not condone the behaviour of the idiots in the video, these kinds of people are just thugs who think the only answer is shouting, swearing and trying to show how big they are! Bolton is supposed to be developing as a town, but it is getting worse, I urge anyone who can depart do so now for pastures new, because that is certainly what I am considering doing over the next 12 months. An old pub on Holmeswood Road, Great Lever is now a Mosque called ‘Masjid-e-Taqwa’ on Friday prayers the chaos and traffic around Holmeswood Road / Lever Edge Lane is horrendous, any emergency services would not stand a chance to get down Holmeswood Road, and this is despite the Mosque having a large car park. The same use to happen at ‘Makka Mosque’ on Grecian Crescent on Friday afternoon, people using the Mosque would park anywhere without a care in the world for residents that were living in the area. No doubt this will happen with the new Mosque on Blackburn Road. Could someone tell me why Great Lever needs FIVE MOSQUES within a quarter of a mile radius! And this is not including many of the others in Great Lever or Deane & Derby. We have… Masjid-e-Taqwa - Holmeswood Road Aleef Mosque - 8 Higher Swan Lane, Bolton, BL3 3EQ Darul Quran Mosque - 458 Bridgeman Street, Bolton, BL3 6TJ Makka Mosque - Grecian Crescent, Bolton, BL3 6QU Zakariyya Mosque - Peace Street, Bolton, BL3 5LJ Surely Bolton has enough places for Muslims to worship, without adding more to the town. It’s purely disgraceful, and I am no longer proud to be associated with this town.
hurry up and pack your bags then
taxi for this scum
[quote][p][bold]TheOneTrueWord[/bold] wrote: We all know this mosque was going to get passed, there could have been 10,000 signatures against it and it still would have got planning permission from Bolton Council. I do not condone the behaviour of the idiots in the video, these kinds of people are just thugs who think the only answer is shouting, swearing and trying to show how big they are! Bolton is supposed to be developing as a town, but it is getting worse, I urge anyone who can depart do so now for pastures new, because that is certainly what I am considering doing over the next 12 months. An old pub on Holmeswood Road, Great Lever is now a Mosque called ‘Masjid-e-Taqwa’ on Friday prayers the chaos and traffic around Holmeswood Road / Lever Edge Lane is horrendous, any emergency services would not stand a chance to get down Holmeswood Road, and this is despite the Mosque having a large car park. The same use to happen at ‘Makka Mosque’ on Grecian Crescent on Friday afternoon, people using the Mosque would park anywhere without a care in the world for residents that were living in the area. No doubt this will happen with the new Mosque on Blackburn Road. Could someone tell me why Great Lever needs FIVE MOSQUES within a quarter of a mile radius! And this is not including many of the others in Great Lever or Deane & Derby. We have… Masjid-e-Taqwa - Holmeswood Road Aleef Mosque - 8 Higher Swan Lane, Bolton, BL3 3EQ Darul Quran Mosque - 458 Bridgeman Street, Bolton, BL3 6TJ Makka Mosque - Grecian Crescent, Bolton, BL3 6QU Zakariyya Mosque - Peace Street, Bolton, BL3 5LJ Surely Bolton has enough places for Muslims to worship, without adding more to the town. It’s purely disgraceful, and I am no longer proud to be associated with this town.[/p][/quote]hurry up and pack your bags then taxi for this scum Replytohatersandscum
  • Score: -5

12:31pm Sat 5 Jul 14

Comment777 says...

StopwiththeBS wrote:
bolton12 wrote:
TilerJ wrote:
Rivers of blood? Have you heard yourselves? You're inciting violence with your words, but I think that's exactly what you're after. At least the muslims followed the due process. And your islamophobic personalities isn't a valid reason to oppose a building even if you keep trying to hide behind 'traffic issues'.
I suppose you probably don't travel up Blackburn Road?? As for violence can I just remind you - London 7/7, Twin Towers 9/11, Syria!!!
The crusades anyone? Anyone?

Nazi Germany?

IRA Bombings? the guy in southampton last week who was arrested for making a load of cyanide to kill muslims with?

The sooner you all stop being scared of people who aren't trying to kill you and start working together to find the ones that are, and prevent more from wanting to, the better
Your comments speaks volumes.

You think we are scared of muslims? No, we just do not like your moral standards , ethics or isolated communities. We do not approve of your willingness even eagerness to shout 'racist' when you lose or do not get your own way.

Most of all I personally can not cope, when I have the unfortunate necessity to visit the UK, with the lack of skill, respect and downright flouting of safety rules when I see a muslim and family driving in a car

The most telling part of your comment is this 'The sooner you all stop being scared of people who aren't trying to kill you and start working together to find the ones that are'...we are not scared of the people who are not trying to kill us and we know which ones are, they are easy to recognise!!!
[quote][p][bold]StopwiththeBS[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bolton12[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TilerJ[/bold] wrote: Rivers of blood? Have you heard yourselves? You're inciting violence with your words, but I think that's exactly what you're after. At least the muslims followed the due process. And your islamophobic personalities isn't a valid reason to oppose a building even if you keep trying to hide behind 'traffic issues'.[/p][/quote]I suppose you probably don't travel up Blackburn Road?? As for violence can I just remind you - London 7/7, Twin Towers 9/11, Syria!!![/p][/quote]The crusades anyone? Anyone? Nazi Germany? IRA Bombings? the guy in southampton last week who was arrested for making a load of cyanide to kill muslims with? The sooner you all stop being scared of people who aren't trying to kill you and start working together to find the ones that are, and prevent more from wanting to, the better[/p][/quote]Your comments speaks volumes. You think we are scared of muslims? No, we just do not like your moral standards , ethics or isolated communities. We do not approve of your willingness even eagerness to shout 'racist' when you lose or do not get your own way. Most of all I personally can not cope, when I have the unfortunate necessity to visit the UK, with the lack of skill, respect and downright flouting of safety rules when I see a muslim and family driving in a car The most telling part of your comment is this 'The sooner you all stop being scared of people who aren't trying to kill you and start working together to find the ones that are'...we are not scared of the people who are not trying to kill us and we know which ones are, they are easy to recognise!!! Comment777
  • Score: 36

12:32pm Sat 5 Jul 14

Comment777 says...

I see this fighter Khan as been arrested. Just to clarify, is he one of those we should be scared of???
I see this fighter Khan as been arrested. Just to clarify, is he one of those we should be scared of??? Comment777
  • Score: 25

1:05pm Sat 5 Jul 14

Replytohatersandscum says...

willywonker wrote:
I moved away from Bolton 18 months up 2 Penrith Cumbria best thing I ever did I come back at weekend to my mates, evey time im back I take my life in my hands driving up Blackburn Rd & Deane Rd, what a dump this town is, anybody with half a brain get out of this town while you can. Cumbria is good for us English men.
good now take the rest of the scum with you
[quote][p][bold]willywonker[/bold] wrote: I moved away from Bolton 18 months up 2 Penrith Cumbria best thing I ever did I come back at weekend to my mates, evey time im back I take my life in my hands driving up Blackburn Rd & Deane Rd, what a dump this town is, anybody with half a brain get out of this town while you can. Cumbria is good for us English men.[/p][/quote]good now take the rest of the scum with you Replytohatersandscum
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1:34pm Sat 5 Jul 14

Replytohatersandscum says...

so many uneducated scum on here and yes thats exactly what you are SCUM of the earth
you dont like living in bolton then i suggest you move to somewhere where you will be happy the quicker you scum leave the town the better
we build what we want we build what we want we do what we want
so many uneducated scum on here and yes thats exactly what you are SCUM of the earth you dont like living in bolton then i suggest you move to somewhere where you will be happy the quicker you scum leave the town the better we build what we want we build what we want we do what we want Replytohatersandscum
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1:48pm Sat 5 Jul 14

Lawlesschat says...

Comment777 wrote:
StopwiththeBS wrote:
bolton12 wrote:
TilerJ wrote:
Rivers of blood? Have you heard yourselves? You're inciting violence with your words, but I think that's exactly what you're after. At least the muslims followed the due process. And your islamophobic personalities isn't a valid reason to oppose a building even if you keep trying to hide behind 'traffic issues'.
I suppose you probably don't travel up Blackburn Road?? As for violence can I just remind you - London 7/7, Twin Towers 9/11, Syria!!!
The crusades anyone? Anyone?

Nazi Germany?

IRA Bombings? the guy in southampton last week who was arrested for making a load of cyanide to kill muslims with?

The sooner you all stop being scared of people who aren't trying to kill you and start working together to find the ones that are, and prevent more from wanting to, the better
Your comments speaks volumes.

You think we are scared of muslims? No, we just do not like your moral standards , ethics or isolated communities. We do not approve of your willingness even eagerness to shout 'racist' when you lose or do not get your own way.

Most of all I personally can not cope, when I have the unfortunate necessity to visit the UK, with the lack of skill, respect and downright flouting of safety rules when I see a muslim and family driving in a car

The most telling part of your comment is this 'The sooner you all stop being scared of people who aren't trying to kill you and start working together to find the ones that are'...we are not scared of the people who are not trying to kill us and we know which ones are, they are easy to recognise!!!
So you claim not to live in the Bolton?
You imposter.

I think the biggest danger to you is yourself mate ... People like you should be given an injection to stop you thinking, it's really quite scary.
It's apparent that the only level of intelligence you've mastered is to place things into your mouth, chew and swallow, that is if you're not in fact being force fed you vegetable.
Go and take your crusade elsewhere, you've had your fare share of getting involved in Bolton's affairs for far too long.
[quote][p][bold]Comment777[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StopwiththeBS[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bolton12[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TilerJ[/bold] wrote: Rivers of blood? Have you heard yourselves? You're inciting violence with your words, but I think that's exactly what you're after. At least the muslims followed the due process. And your islamophobic personalities isn't a valid reason to oppose a building even if you keep trying to hide behind 'traffic issues'.[/p][/quote]I suppose you probably don't travel up Blackburn Road?? As for violence can I just remind you - London 7/7, Twin Towers 9/11, Syria!!![/p][/quote]The crusades anyone? Anyone? Nazi Germany? IRA Bombings? the guy in southampton last week who was arrested for making a load of cyanide to kill muslims with? The sooner you all stop being scared of people who aren't trying to kill you and start working together to find the ones that are, and prevent more from wanting to, the better[/p][/quote]Your comments speaks volumes. You think we are scared of muslims? No, we just do not like your moral standards , ethics or isolated communities. We do not approve of your willingness even eagerness to shout 'racist' when you lose or do not get your own way. Most of all I personally can not cope, when I have the unfortunate necessity to visit the UK, with the lack of skill, respect and downright flouting of safety rules when I see a muslim and family driving in a car The most telling part of your comment is this 'The sooner you all stop being scared of people who aren't trying to kill you and start working together to find the ones that are'...we are not scared of the people who are not trying to kill us and we know which ones are, they are easy to recognise!!![/p][/quote]So you claim not to live in the Bolton? You imposter. I think the biggest danger to you is yourself mate ... People like you should be given an injection to stop you thinking, it's really quite scary. It's apparent that the only level of intelligence you've mastered is to place things into your mouth, chew and swallow, that is if you're not in fact being force fed you vegetable. Go and take your crusade elsewhere, you've had your fare share of getting involved in Bolton's affairs for far too long. Lawlesschat
  • Score: -39

1:56pm Sat 5 Jul 14

Lawlesschat says...

comment777 have you no friends?
comment777 have you no friends? Lawlesschat
  • Score: -16

3:18pm Sat 5 Jul 14

Whitty1938 says...

Dobbo1973 wrote:
It's a travesty point one they say its only replacing the old building but it will hold 300 more people. Point two I read that somebody got there extension turned down for being to imposing. I suppose towers and domes don't come into that bracket why can't the new building just blend in with everything else is there really a need for domes and towers as the existing building doesn't have them so I presume it's not important for the religious aspect maybe it's for the islamification of Bolton I think our town is being sold down the river and these so called councillors aren't thinking about the town and what it will be like in another 10/20 years. I'm already thinking of leaving its a joke
I seem to remember not to long ago a family living on Green Lane in Bolton had planning permission to build a porch, which included two white Ionic pillars were refused permission because it didn't fit in with the surroundings. Now tell me that it was more out of fitting than this mosque. Also walk or drive up Green Lane from Crescent Avenue up to Bradford Road and see how many houses have larger pillars than the ones I mentioned, and take note of who the owners are.
[quote][p][bold]Dobbo1973[/bold] wrote: It's a travesty point one they say its only replacing the old building but it will hold 300 more people. Point two I read that somebody got there extension turned down for being to imposing. I suppose towers and domes don't come into that bracket why can't the new building just blend in with everything else is there really a need for domes and towers as the existing building doesn't have them so I presume it's not important for the religious aspect maybe it's for the islamification of Bolton I think our town is being sold down the river and these so called councillors aren't thinking about the town and what it will be like in another 10/20 years. I'm already thinking of leaving its a joke[/p][/quote]I seem to remember not to long ago a family living on Green Lane in Bolton had planning permission to build a porch, which included two white Ionic pillars were refused permission because it didn't fit in with the surroundings. Now tell me that it was more out of fitting than this mosque. Also walk or drive up Green Lane from Crescent Avenue up to Bradford Road and see how many houses have larger pillars than the ones I mentioned, and take note of who the owners are. Whitty1938
  • Score: 5

3:32pm Sat 5 Jul 14

Whitty1938 says...

I seem to remember not to long ago a family living on Green Lane in Bolton had planning permission to build a porch, which included two white Ionic pillars were refused permission because it didn't fit in with the surroundings. Now tell me that it was more out of fitting than this mosque. Also walk or drive up Green Lane from Crescent Avenue up to Bradford Road and see how many houses have larger pillars than the ones I mentioned, and take note of who the owners are.
I seem to remember not to long ago a family living on Green Lane in Bolton had planning permission to build a porch, which included two white Ionic pillars were refused permission because it didn't fit in with the surroundings. Now tell me that it was more out of fitting than this mosque. Also walk or drive up Green Lane from Crescent Avenue up to Bradford Road and see how many houses have larger pillars than the ones I mentioned, and take note of who the owners are. Whitty1938
  • Score: 34

3:53pm Sat 5 Jul 14

pradagucci says...

BromleyCrossWanderer wrote:
What a sad sad situation. I'm a typical white dude, educated in Bolton and still live in Bolton.

A bunch of ill-mannered uneducated, bigoted racists disrupting a public meeting the way they did. Makes me feel ashamed to say I'm from Bolton.

The Town and the folks from the town have so much to be proud of. We should be looking for some leadership, especially those who have a high media profile to integrate the population and celebrate all that is good. We should be proud that the muslim community want to invest in new facilities. Come on Amir Khan, Peter Kay, Jason Kenny, Sarah Cox et al - come to your town and help it celebrate its diversity and its cultural heritage and its future development

If the Christians of our town may feel threatened by such a vibrant muslim community but they should not. The Christians can learn so much from observing the strong religious and community bond that the muslims share. Just take a look around at the decaying churches, the dwindling attendees on a Sunday.

Perhaps if the council and the C of E, Methodist and Catholic organisations could put some real effort and commitment into injecting some vibrancy, make the organisations fun and make them inclusive of the society around them they too could have new facilities and a community bond they could be proud of.

The investment will be £m's and will bring many benefits to many people, yes the traffic issue and yes the impact on residents should be carefully considered but all can be resolved.

As for the ignorant and uneducated, they should be forgiven and prayed for, they need help to understand that we have a great town and this development is good for the town.
Amazing: You should be KNIGHTED.
[quote][p][bold]BromleyCrossWanderer[/bold] wrote: What a sad sad situation. I'm a typical white dude, educated in Bolton and still live in Bolton. A bunch of ill-mannered uneducated, bigoted racists disrupting a public meeting the way they did. Makes me feel ashamed to say I'm from Bolton. The Town and the folks from the town have so much to be proud of. We should be looking for some leadership, especially those who have a high media profile to integrate the population and celebrate all that is good. We should be proud that the muslim community want to invest in new facilities. Come on Amir Khan, Peter Kay, Jason Kenny, Sarah Cox et al - come to your town and help it celebrate its diversity and its cultural heritage and its future development If the Christians of our town may feel threatened by such a vibrant muslim community but they should not. The Christians can learn so much from observing the strong religious and community bond that the muslims share. Just take a look around at the decaying churches, the dwindling attendees on a Sunday. Perhaps if the council and the C of E, Methodist and Catholic organisations could put some real effort and commitment into injecting some vibrancy, make the organisations fun and make them inclusive of the society around them they too could have new facilities and a community bond they could be proud of. The investment will be £m's and will bring many benefits to many people, yes the traffic issue and yes the impact on residents should be carefully considered but all can be resolved. As for the ignorant and uneducated, they should be forgiven and prayed for, they need help to understand that we have a great town and this development is good for the town.[/p][/quote]Amazing: You should be KNIGHTED. pradagucci
  • Score: 8

4:02pm Sat 5 Jul 14

udindola says...

SUPER BIG CHURCH TO BE BUILT ON BLACKBURN RD !!!!!!!! AFTER ALL ITS ONLY A PLACE OF WORSHIP :
SUPER BIG CHURCH TO BE BUILT ON BLACKBURN RD !!!!!!!! AFTER ALL ITS ONLY A PLACE OF WORSHIP : udindola
  • Score: 4

5:06pm Sat 5 Jul 14

LoveBolton says...

It seems many people have genuine concerns regarding the new build such as parking, the cost of the build, how it will be an eyesore and why is there a need to have so many mosques etc..Well as to the parking issues when such a huge community use a such a facility at once parking is going to be major problem, that can't be helped but as a community more and more of us are making a change and walking to the mosque as they are from walking distance and it's not feasible to go by car as the roads are getting busy. Yes on a Friday the afternoon prayers can cause a problem but not as much if we all attended the one mosque like suggested. The Muslim children attend the mosque at 5 o clock and at that time people are going home from work and they use Blackburn rd... The traffic is not caused by the children being dropped off at the mosque it's just general traffic.. The same traffic is found in the morning when people are going to work, the mosque is not open then. The need for so many local mosque are needed for the growing community each mosque is used to its full capacity and more. As for the cost the whole cost and running of the mosques are done purely by the Muslim community no money is given by SAUDIA they are spending all there money on buying football clubs not building mosques in the UK... Nor is any money given by the government local are national.. The money is not raised overnight it take years and years and years for the Muslim community to raise funds with lot s of hard work and voluntary time and effort is given by all . Any mosque is open for all to visit and actually find out what actually happens inside a mosque they only need to take the right steps to find out. As for the building being a eyesore how can a beautifully constructed building be an eyesore to some condemned building and over land that is not being used. If more community's thought like the Muslim community and put there hand in there pocket to make a change for there community we would all be better off, someone mentioned that the minarets will be used to call out the call of pray in the future ,that will never happen the minarets are just part of the mosque design just as a church has a steeple. Also the call for pray is broadcasted in the homes via radio in the UK as well as all over the world now a days , the minarets where used for the call to Pray in the days when technology was not there. Most of the comments are just islamaphobia by people who do not want to look beyond the hatred of foreigners. Keep Britain British.. Most of these people won't no what british is if it bit them on there ****... So come on just drop all this nonsense and stopping blaming the Muslims for all your troubles. This is just another way for BNP EDL UKIP to get the bolton people to support them.
It seems many people have genuine concerns regarding the new build such as parking, the cost of the build, how it will be an eyesore and why is there a need to have so many mosques etc..Well as to the parking issues when such a huge community use a such a facility at once parking is going to be major problem, that can't be helped but as a community more and more of us are making a change and walking to the mosque as they are from walking distance and it's not feasible to go by car as the roads are getting busy. Yes on a Friday the afternoon prayers can cause a problem but not as much if we all attended the one mosque like suggested. The Muslim children attend the mosque at 5 o clock and at that time people are going home from work and they use Blackburn rd... The traffic is not caused by the children being dropped off at the mosque it's just general traffic.. The same traffic is found in the morning when people are going to work, the mosque is not open then. The need for so many local mosque are needed for the growing community each mosque is used to its full capacity and more. As for the cost the whole cost and running of the mosques are done purely by the Muslim community no money is given by SAUDIA they are spending all there money on buying football clubs not building mosques in the UK... Nor is any money given by the government local are national.. The money is not raised overnight it take years and years and years for the Muslim community to raise funds with lot s of hard work and voluntary time and effort is given by all . Any mosque is open for all to visit and actually find out what actually happens inside a mosque they only need to take the right steps to find out. As for the building being a eyesore how can a beautifully constructed building be an eyesore to some condemned building and over land that is not being used. If more community's thought like the Muslim community and put there hand in there pocket to make a change for there community we would all be better off, someone mentioned that the minarets will be used to call out the call of pray in the future ,that will never happen the minarets are just part of the mosque design just as a church has a steeple. Also the call for pray is broadcasted in the homes via radio in the UK as well as all over the world now a days , the minarets where used for the call to Pray in the days when technology was not there. Most of the comments are just islamaphobia by people who do not want to look beyond the hatred of foreigners. Keep Britain British.. Most of these people won't no what british is if it bit them on there ****... So come on just drop all this nonsense and stopping blaming the Muslims for all your troubles. This is just another way for BNP EDL UKIP to get the bolton people to support them. LoveBolton
  • Score: -32

5:44pm Sat 5 Jul 14

Ppatts says...

Where'swally wrote:
willywonker wrote:
I moved away from Bolton 18 months up 2 Penrith Cumbria best thing I ever did I come back at weekend to my mates, evey time im back I take my life in my hands driving up Blackburn Rd & Deane Rd, what a dump this town is, anybody with half a brain get out of this town while you can. Cumbria is good for us English men.
or even wigan! they dont like wigan. Must the pies that puts them off.... they only seem to like towns starting with B Bradford Burnley Birmingham Bolton. B-oldham.....
Wigan is next on the list there is a collection for a grand mosque to be built in Wigan all bros donate generously
[quote][p][bold]Where'swally[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]willywonker[/bold] wrote: I moved away from Bolton 18 months up 2 Penrith Cumbria best thing I ever did I come back at weekend to my mates, evey time im back I take my life in my hands driving up Blackburn Rd & Deane Rd, what a dump this town is, anybody with half a brain get out of this town while you can. Cumbria is good for us English men.[/p][/quote]or even wigan! they dont like wigan. Must the pies that puts them off.... they only seem to like towns starting with B Bradford Burnley Birmingham Bolton. B-oldham.....[/p][/quote]Wigan is next on the list there is a collection for a grand mosque to be built in Wigan all bros donate generously Ppatts
  • Score: -2

5:47pm Sat 5 Jul 14

Jackael says...

Ppatts wrote:
Where'swally wrote:
willywonker wrote:
I moved away from Bolton 18 months up 2 Penrith Cumbria best thing I ever did I come back at weekend to my mates, evey time im back I take my life in my hands driving up Blackburn Rd & Deane Rd, what a dump this town is, anybody with half a brain get out of this town while you can. Cumbria is good for us English men.
or even wigan! they dont like wigan. Must the pies that puts them off.... they only seem to like towns starting with B Bradford Burnley Birmingham Bolton. B-oldham.....
Wigan is next on the list there is a collection for a grand mosque to be built in Wigan all bros donate generously
If you think you can build a rat hole in Wigan you're in for a bit of a shock, haha...
[quote][p][bold]Ppatts[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Where'swally[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]willywonker[/bold] wrote: I moved away from Bolton 18 months up 2 Penrith Cumbria best thing I ever did I come back at weekend to my mates, evey time im back I take my life in my hands driving up Blackburn Rd & Deane Rd, what a dump this town is, anybody with half a brain get out of this town while you can. Cumbria is good for us English men.[/p][/quote]or even wigan! they dont like wigan. Must the pies that puts them off.... they only seem to like towns starting with B Bradford Burnley Birmingham Bolton. B-oldham.....[/p][/quote]Wigan is next on the list there is a collection for a grand mosque to be built in Wigan all bros donate generously[/p][/quote]If you think you can build a rat hole in Wigan you're in for a bit of a shock, haha... Jackael
  • Score: -4

6:23pm Sat 5 Jul 14

DAUBHILL85 says...

Jackael wrote:
Ppatts wrote:
Where'swally wrote:
willywonker wrote:
I moved away from Bolton 18 months up 2 Penrith Cumbria best thing I ever did I come back at weekend to my mates, evey time im back I take my life in my hands driving up Blackburn Rd & Deane Rd, what a dump this town is, anybody with half a brain get out of this town while you can. Cumbria is good for us English men.
or even wigan! they dont like wigan. Must the pies that puts them off.... they only seem to like towns starting with B Bradford Burnley Birmingham Bolton. B-oldham.....
Wigan is next on the list there is a collection for a grand mosque to be built in Wigan all bros donate generously
If you think you can build a rat hole in Wigan you're in for a bit of a shock, haha...
See they are never happy they will try and turn any town or area into a S H I T H O L E :-)
[quote][p][bold]Jackael[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ppatts[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Where'swally[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]willywonker[/bold] wrote: I moved away from Bolton 18 months up 2 Penrith Cumbria best thing I ever did I come back at weekend to my mates, evey time im back I take my life in my hands driving up Blackburn Rd & Deane Rd, what a dump this town is, anybody with half a brain get out of this town while you can. Cumbria is good for us English men.[/p][/quote]or even wigan! they dont like wigan. Must the pies that puts them off.... they only seem to like towns starting with B Bradford Burnley Birmingham Bolton. B-oldham.....[/p][/quote]Wigan is next on the list there is a collection for a grand mosque to be built in Wigan all bros donate generously[/p][/quote]If you think you can build a rat hole in Wigan you're in for a bit of a shock, haha...[/p][/quote]See they are never happy they will try and turn any town or area into a S H I T H O L E :-) DAUBHILL85
  • Score: 0

8:20pm Sat 5 Jul 14

mrs philainsy says...

Jamesuns wrote:
EveDallas wrote:
Maybe its only the so called 'thugs' making a violent protest,because no one else has the guts to stand up and protest. we don't want this or any other mosque in this town or indeed the country.
shame on you bolton council, in a so called democratic society every rate paying boltonian should have had a vote. but thats too easy because if we did have a vote the decision would have gone the other way.
when you say we I assume you actually mean you dont unless I have somehow lost the ability to think for myself?

the people making violent protests obviously arent thugs if they were I am sure they would reason using logic instead of resorting to violence?
jamesuns are you in a rubber room, wrapped in a striaght jacket, being deprived of sharp objects, with a pencil stuck up each nostril ??


bore off you silly girl and hand the laptop back to matron before lights out.


plonker or what?
[quote][p][bold]Jamesuns[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]EveDallas[/bold] wrote: Maybe its only the so called 'thugs' making a violent protest,because no one else has the guts to stand up and protest. we don't want this or any other mosque in this town or indeed the country. shame on you bolton council, in a so called democratic society every rate paying boltonian should have had a vote. but thats too easy because if we did have a vote the decision would have gone the other way.[/p][/quote]when you say we I assume you actually mean you dont unless I have somehow lost the ability to think for myself? the people making violent protests obviously arent thugs if they were I am sure they would reason using logic instead of resorting to violence?[/p][/quote]jamesuns are you in a rubber room, wrapped in a striaght jacket, being deprived of sharp objects, with a pencil stuck up each nostril ?? bore off you silly girl and hand the laptop back to matron before lights out. plonker or what? mrs philainsy
  • Score: 4

2:40am Sun 6 Jul 14

Dank-Bolton says...

V Meldrew wrote:
If it is for the community as they say, then how about all the community attend for as long as possible including the objectors without intimidation of course 'just attend', me thinks some will be barred if they are white.
I think it would be a bit full.
At the end of the day you can attend any Church/Community Centre you wish as long as you behave yourself.
First of all why would you want to attend our mosque?? In your life time I bet you have not been to a church, we not getting government or council grants to build our place of worship, as to the traffic concerns be real there is going to be over 70 car parking spaces what will surely reduce the traffic,
[quote][p][bold]V Meldrew[/bold] wrote: If it is for the community as they say, then how about all the community attend for as long as possible including the objectors without intimidation of course 'just attend', me thinks some will be barred if they are white. I think it would be a bit full. At the end of the day you can attend any Church/Community Centre you wish as long as you behave yourself.[/p][/quote]First of all why would you want to attend our mosque?? In your life time I bet you have not been to a church, we not getting government or council grants to build our place of worship, as to the traffic concerns be real there is going to be over 70 car parking spaces what will surely reduce the traffic, Dank-Bolton
  • Score: -2

8:48am Sun 6 Jul 14

Three Lions says...

Right here we go in a nut shell,
1, the mosque looks nice, but sticks out like a sore thumb.
2, traffic will be chaotic, if you don't think it will your in the matrix.
even when they have taken over/built COMMUNITY CLUBS traffic is horrendous.
3, people who voted for these Councillor's don't have a right to mourn.
4, Bolton Council has always been how can i say nudge,nudge wink wink. (panorama needs to look into this).
5, i read that someone said where do the Councillor's live, try nowhere near a mosque/community school?? and they finish before rush hour traffic.
I'm not bothered about the mosque but bolton council need to start looking at the traffic situation when they say it won't be affected.
the old mount saint Joseph's school was turned into a mosque.
TRAFFIC IS HORRENDOUS.
muslim community building wigan road..
TRAFFIC IS HORRENDOUS.( even thou you have put double yellow lines there they still park)
these are just some examples and i will say this may lead to a congestion charge and because of what.....
Right here we go in a nut shell, 1, the mosque looks nice, but sticks out like a sore thumb. 2, traffic will be chaotic, if you don't think it will your in the matrix. even when they have taken over/built COMMUNITY CLUBS traffic is horrendous. 3, people who voted for these Councillor's don't have a right to mourn. 4, Bolton Council has always been how can i say nudge,nudge wink wink. (panorama needs to look into this). 5, i read that someone said where do the Councillor's live, try nowhere near a mosque/community school?? and they finish before rush hour traffic. I'm not bothered about the mosque but bolton council need to start looking at the traffic situation when they say it won't be affected. the old mount saint Joseph's school was turned into a mosque. TRAFFIC IS HORRENDOUS. muslim community building wigan road.. TRAFFIC IS HORRENDOUS.( even thou you have put double yellow lines there they still park) these are just some examples and i will say this may lead to a congestion charge and because of what..... Three Lions
  • Score: 3

12:08pm Sun 6 Jul 14

Beyond News Forum says...

Wait for it......... Another WTF??? More segregation... something that should be a thing of the past no matter what school... even Bolton School...

3,2,1...

Quote BN... Multi-million plans have now been submitted to Bolton Council to build the state-of-the-art campus on the site of the former Wolfenden School in Astley Bridge.

The school closed in 2003.

The images depict the courtyard area of the new single sex school — the borough’s first all boys state school.

It will headed by Shabir Fazal, former assistant director of Bolton’s children’s services, a qualified physics teacher.

Eden Boys’ School, for 11 to 18-years-olds, will open in September as part of the Government’s flagship free school programme.
Wait for it......... Another WTF??? More segregation... something that should be a thing of the past no matter what school... even Bolton School... 3,2,1... Quote BN... Multi-million plans have now been submitted to Bolton Council to build the state-of-the-art campus on the site of the former Wolfenden School in Astley Bridge. The school closed in 2003. The images depict the courtyard area of the new single sex school — the borough’s first all boys state school. It will headed by Shabir Fazal, former assistant director of Bolton’s children’s services, a qualified physics teacher. Eden Boys’ School, for 11 to 18-years-olds, will open in September as part of the Government’s flagship free school programme. Beyond News Forum
  • Score: 1

1:41pm Sun 6 Jul 14

mrs philainsy says...

Replytohatersandscum wrote:
so many uneducated scum on here and yes thats exactly what you are SCUM of the earth
you dont like living in bolton then i suggest you move to somewhere where you will be happy the quicker you scum leave the town the better
we build what we want we build what we want we do what we want
LOL!!!!!


Are there any Family members of this complete FRUITLOOP on the forum??

Section 37 of The Mental Health Act, is what you need to get him off the streets and into his very own "Quiet Place".

I am crying with Laughter reading this pilchards posts.....what a wind up merchant.

If Brains were Dynamite - he wouldnt have enough to blow his Burberry Baseball Cap off.

LOL.
[quote][p][bold]Replytohatersandscum[/bold] wrote: so many uneducated scum on here and yes thats exactly what you are SCUM of the earth you dont like living in bolton then i suggest you move to somewhere where you will be happy the quicker you scum leave the town the better we build what we want we build what we want we do what we want[/p][/quote]LOL!!!!! Are there any Family members of this complete FRUITLOOP on the forum?? Section 37 of The Mental Health Act, is what you need to get him off the streets and into his very own "Quiet Place". I am crying with Laughter reading this pilchards posts.....what a wind up merchant. If Brains were Dynamite - he wouldnt have enough to blow his Burberry Baseball Cap off. LOL. mrs philainsy
  • Score: 5

1:44pm Sun 6 Jul 14

mrs philainsy says...

Dank-Bolton wrote:
V Meldrew wrote:
If it is for the community as they say, then how about all the community attend for as long as possible including the objectors without intimidation of course 'just attend', me thinks some will be barred if they are white.
I think it would be a bit full.
At the end of the day you can attend any Church/Community Centre you wish as long as you behave yourself.
First of all why would you want to attend our mosque?? In your life time I bet you have not been to a church, we not getting government or council grants to build our place of worship, as to the traffic concerns be real there is going to be over 70 car parking spaces what will surely reduce the traffic,
First of all why would you want to attend our mosque??


OUR mosque?

Thought it was a COMMUNITY project?

That means it belongs to us all surely??


You Silly Billy!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Dank-Bolton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]V Meldrew[/bold] wrote: If it is for the community as they say, then how about all the community attend for as long as possible including the objectors without intimidation of course 'just attend', me thinks some will be barred if they are white. I think it would be a bit full. At the end of the day you can attend any Church/Community Centre you wish as long as you behave yourself.[/p][/quote]First of all why would you want to attend our mosque?? In your life time I bet you have not been to a church, we not getting government or council grants to build our place of worship, as to the traffic concerns be real there is going to be over 70 car parking spaces what will surely reduce the traffic,[/p][/quote]First of all why would you want to attend our mosque?? OUR mosque? Thought it was a COMMUNITY project? That means it belongs to us all surely?? You Silly Billy!!!!! mrs philainsy
  • Score: 4

10:01pm Sun 6 Jul 14

bolton12 says...

Three Lions wrote:
Right here we go in a nut shell,
1, the mosque looks nice, but sticks out like a sore thumb.
2, traffic will be chaotic, if you don't think it will your in the matrix.
even when they have taken over/built COMMUNITY CLUBS traffic is horrendous.
3, people who voted for these Councillor's don't have a right to mourn.
4, Bolton Council has always been how can i say nudge,nudge wink wink. (panorama needs to look into this).
5, i read that someone said where do the Councillor's live, try nowhere near a mosque/community school?? and they finish before rush hour traffic.
I'm not bothered about the mosque but bolton council need to start looking at the traffic situation when they say it won't be affected.
the old mount saint Joseph's school was turned into a mosque.
TRAFFIC IS HORRENDOUS.
muslim community building wigan road..
TRAFFIC IS HORRENDOUS.( even thou you have put double yellow lines there they still park)
these are just some examples and i will say this may lead to a congestion charge and because of what.....
Traffic wardens will not go there because of fear of being mobbed and surrounded or being accused of being racist! Maybe Bolton Council have approved this, then if a traffic warden does have the guts to go and book the illegal parker's they can cash in!!
[quote][p][bold]Three Lions[/bold] wrote: Right here we go in a nut shell, 1, the mosque looks nice, but sticks out like a sore thumb. 2, traffic will be chaotic, if you don't think it will your in the matrix. even when they have taken over/built COMMUNITY CLUBS traffic is horrendous. 3, people who voted for these Councillor's don't have a right to mourn. 4, Bolton Council has always been how can i say nudge,nudge wink wink. (panorama needs to look into this). 5, i read that someone said where do the Councillor's live, try nowhere near a mosque/community school?? and they finish before rush hour traffic. I'm not bothered about the mosque but bolton council need to start looking at the traffic situation when they say it won't be affected. the old mount saint Joseph's school was turned into a mosque. TRAFFIC IS HORRENDOUS. muslim community building wigan road.. TRAFFIC IS HORRENDOUS.( even thou you have put double yellow lines there they still park) these are just some examples and i will say this may lead to a congestion charge and because of what.....[/p][/quote]Traffic wardens will not go there because of fear of being mobbed and surrounded or being accused of being racist! Maybe Bolton Council have approved this, then if a traffic warden does have the guts to go and book the illegal parker's they can cash in!! bolton12
  • Score: -1

9:00am Mon 7 Jul 14

JShepard says...

Gavin Boby explaining that the promulgation of Islamic doctrine is in fact against civil and criminal law. Furthermore those Councillors who grant planning permission for the building of Mosques face long term prosecution from residents who subsequently find themselves being pressured out of their homes by the Islamization of their area.

Properties instantly lose 10% of their value the moment a Mosque is built in its vicinity. The value continues to decrease for each subsequent year as the effects of the Mosque and its activities start to change the neighborhood. Mosques are based on the model of the first Mosque in which Mohammed and his men planned their campaigns against the 'unbelievers'; Mosques are military and political centers.

https://www.youtube.
com/watch?v=-J9tNWFJ
HF4#t=15
Gavin Boby explaining that the promulgation of Islamic doctrine is in fact against civil and criminal law. Furthermore those Councillors who grant planning permission for the building of Mosques face long term prosecution from residents who subsequently find themselves being pressured out of their homes by the Islamization of their area. Properties instantly lose 10% of their value the moment a Mosque is built in its vicinity. The value continues to decrease for each subsequent year as the effects of the Mosque and its activities start to change the neighborhood. Mosques are based on the model of the first Mosque in which Mohammed and his men planned their campaigns against the 'unbelievers'; Mosques are military and political centers. https://www.youtube. com/watch?v=-J9tNWFJ HF4#t=15 JShepard
  • Score: -2

9:14am Mon 7 Jul 14

JShepard says...

Issue 442: it is illegal to make the ground, ceiling, roof, and inner walls of a mosque impure, and when a person learns that any of these parts has become impure, they must immediately make it pure. As an obligatory precaution, the outer walls of a mosque must not be made impure either, and if they become impure, they must be made pure, unless the person, who has dedicated that mosque, has not appointed them as parts of the mosque.

Issue 443: If one cannot make the mosque pure, or needs help to purify it, but they do not find any help, it is not obligatory for them to make the mosque pure, but if it is seen as a disrespect towards the mosque, as an obligatory precaution, they must ask someone who can make the mosque pure to take care of it.

Issue 444: Carrying the original impurity like blood to a mosque is illegal if it is considered as disrespect to the mosque, and so is the case of an impure thing.


It won't be long before somebody purchases a drone and starts spraying pig blood over the Mosques minaret. Not that I'm condoning that actions of course. I'm just pointing out that when Councillors fail to represent the people. People move away from voting and start taking direct action.

So I would like to take the opportunity to thank Bolton Council for creating one of the biggest divides that we're about to see in the North West between the Islamic community and every single other religion.
Issue 442: it is illegal to make the ground, ceiling, roof, and inner walls of a mosque impure, and when a person learns that any of these parts has become impure, they must immediately make it pure. As an obligatory precaution, the outer walls of a mosque must not be made impure either, and if they become impure, they must be made pure, unless the person, who has dedicated that mosque, has not appointed them as parts of the mosque. Issue 443: If one cannot make the mosque pure, or needs help to purify it, but they do not find any help, it is not obligatory for them to make the mosque pure, but if it is seen as a disrespect towards the mosque, as an obligatory precaution, they must ask someone who can make the mosque pure to take care of it. Issue 444: Carrying the original impurity like blood to a mosque is illegal if it is considered as disrespect to the mosque, and so is the case of an impure thing. It won't be long before somebody purchases a drone and starts spraying pig blood over the Mosques minaret. Not that I'm condoning that actions of course. I'm just pointing out that when Councillors fail to represent the people. People move away from voting and start taking direct action. So I would like to take the opportunity to thank Bolton Council for creating one of the biggest divides that we're about to see in the North West between the Islamic community and every single other religion. JShepard
  • Score: 1

1:05pm Mon 7 Jul 14

Jamesuns says...

mrs philainsy wrote:
Jamesuns wrote:
EveDallas wrote:
Maybe its only the so called 'thugs' making a violent protest,because no one else has the guts to stand up and protest. we don't want this or any other mosque in this town or indeed the country.
shame on you bolton council, in a so called democratic society every rate paying boltonian should have had a vote. but thats too easy because if we did have a vote the decision would have gone the other way.
when you say we I assume you actually mean you dont unless I have somehow lost the ability to think for myself?

the people making violent protests obviously arent thugs if they were I am sure they would reason using logic instead of resorting to violence?
jamesuns are you in a rubber room, wrapped in a striaght jacket, being deprived of sharp objects, with a pencil stuck up each nostril ??


bore off you silly girl and hand the laptop back to matron before lights out.


plonker or what?
no i am actually in my residence on Blackburn Road not far from where the new mosque will be built so will actually be effected by the plans ulike most of the people commenting on this thread.

Your reply to my comment reinforces my statement as you appear to have reduced your argument to petty name calling rather than actually putting forward any kind of statement.

The people causing trouble at the meeting have already been arrested for violent/racist behaviour and are awaiting trial FACT!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]mrs philainsy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jamesuns[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]EveDallas[/bold] wrote: Maybe its only the so called 'thugs' making a violent protest,because no one else has the guts to stand up and protest. we don't want this or any other mosque in this town or indeed the country. shame on you bolton council, in a so called democratic society every rate paying boltonian should have had a vote. but thats too easy because if we did have a vote the decision would have gone the other way.[/p][/quote]when you say we I assume you actually mean you dont unless I have somehow lost the ability to think for myself? the people making violent protests obviously arent thugs if they were I am sure they would reason using logic instead of resorting to violence?[/p][/quote]jamesuns are you in a rubber room, wrapped in a striaght jacket, being deprived of sharp objects, with a pencil stuck up each nostril ?? bore off you silly girl and hand the laptop back to matron before lights out. plonker or what?[/p][/quote]no i am actually in my residence on Blackburn Road not far from where the new mosque will be built so will actually be effected by the plans ulike most of the people commenting on this thread. Your reply to my comment reinforces my statement as you appear to have reduced your argument to petty name calling rather than actually putting forward any kind of statement. The people causing trouble at the meeting have already been arrested for violent/racist behaviour and are awaiting trial FACT!!!!!! Jamesuns
  • Score: 0

1:10pm Mon 7 Jul 14

Jamesuns says...

Comment777 wrote:
Jamesuns wrote:
Comment777 wrote:
ChristPMossie wrote:
I see that kid with with the red Jacket shouting NATIONAL FRONT is national front racist Tom Nelson from Seaforth Road Astley Bridge who is already facing charges for his racism and violent behaviour.

http://www.thebolton




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It is persons who are willing to stand up against the threat who will protect your children's children from being burned, stabbed, racially abused, made to wear only accepted clothing, forced into unsolicited relationships and made to live in constant distress should they dishonour their family or partner...for which the penalty will be death by stoning and no person or persons would be held accountable in fact the perpetrators of the killing will be celebrated as a hero or heroes...
people willing to stand up against a threat, these people were the ones making threats, also why would i need a facist to fight for me im quite capable of looking after myself and my own thank you, dont make out this is for me/us its purley for your own gratification!
Good luck with looking after your own. The word is spelt 'purely'.
nothing to do with luck, awww well done you managed to pick me up on a simple spelling mistake all on your own, hats off to you
[quote][p][bold]Comment777[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jamesuns[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Comment777[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ChristPMossie[/bold] wrote: I see that kid with with the red Jacket shouting NATIONAL FRONT is national front racist Tom Nelson from Seaforth Road Astley Bridge who is already facing charges for his racism and violent behaviour. http://www.thebolton news.co.uk/news/crim e/11029227.Bolton_Cr imewatch_suspect_cha rged_after_EDL_prote st_in_Birmingham/?re f=nt[/p][/quote]It is persons who are willing to stand up against the threat who will protect your children's children from being burned, stabbed, racially abused, made to wear only accepted clothing, forced into unsolicited relationships and made to live in constant distress should they dishonour their family or partner...for which the penalty will be death by stoning and no person or persons would be held accountable in fact the perpetrators of the killing will be celebrated as a hero or heroes...[/p][/quote]people willing to stand up against a threat, these people were the ones making threats, also why would i need a facist to fight for me im quite capable of looking after myself and my own thank you, dont make out this is for me/us its purley for your own gratification![/p][/quote]Good luck with looking after your own. The word is spelt 'purely'.[/p][/quote]nothing to do with luck, awww well done you managed to pick me up on a simple spelling mistake all on your own, hats off to you Jamesuns
  • Score: 1

1:19pm Mon 7 Jul 14

Jamesuns says...

bolton12 wrote:
TilerJ wrote:
Rivers of blood? Have you heard yourselves? You're inciting violence with your words, but I think that's exactly what you're after. At least the muslims followed the due process. And your islamophobic personalities isn't a valid reason to oppose a building even if you keep trying to hide behind 'traffic issues'.
I suppose you probably don't travel up Blackburn Road?? As for violence can I just remind you - London 7/7, Twin Towers 9/11, Syria!!!
how about iraq war, us bombing afganistan etc

i travel up Blackburn Road everyday thats where i live the muslim communtity are always very plesant
[quote][p][bold]bolton12[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TilerJ[/bold] wrote: Rivers of blood? Have you heard yourselves? You're inciting violence with your words, but I think that's exactly what you're after. At least the muslims followed the due process. And your islamophobic personalities isn't a valid reason to oppose a building even if you keep trying to hide behind 'traffic issues'.[/p][/quote]I suppose you probably don't travel up Blackburn Road?? As for violence can I just remind you - London 7/7, Twin Towers 9/11, Syria!!![/p][/quote]how about iraq war, us bombing afganistan etc i travel up Blackburn Road everyday thats where i live the muslim communtity are always very plesant Jamesuns
  • Score: 3

2:35pm Mon 7 Jul 14

mrs philainsy says...

Jamesuns wrote:
mrs philainsy wrote:
Jamesuns wrote:
EveDallas wrote:
Maybe its only the so called 'thugs' making a violent protest,because no one else has the guts to stand up and protest. we don't want this or any other mosque in this town or indeed the country.
shame on you bolton council, in a so called democratic society every rate paying boltonian should have had a vote. but thats too easy because if we did have a vote the decision would have gone the other way.
when you say we I assume you actually mean you dont unless I have somehow lost the ability to think for myself?

the people making violent protests obviously arent thugs if they were I am sure they would reason using logic instead of resorting to violence?
jamesuns are you in a rubber room, wrapped in a striaght jacket, being deprived of sharp objects, with a pencil stuck up each nostril ??


bore off you silly girl and hand the laptop back to matron before lights out.


plonker or what?
no i am actually in my residence on Blackburn Road not far from where the new mosque will be built so will actually be effected by the plans ulike most of the people commenting on this thread.

Your reply to my comment reinforces my statement as you appear to have reduced your argument to petty name calling rather than actually putting forward any kind of statement.

The people causing trouble at the meeting have already been arrested for violent/racist behaviour and are awaiting trial FACT!!!!!!
The Fact is Jamesun, you seem to think you have the monopoly on what is built in Bolton.
Do the residents of Little Lever, New Bury, Moses Gate, Farnworth, Halliwell, Belmont etc etc not have a say, in your blinkered eyes, about what goes on in Bolton Planning wise?
I have no doubt the Muslim People you have met / live near are nice people, no-one said they werent, the fact in hand is that another place of worship, of super-sized proportions, is not needed in Bolton.
Every resident has a say in the matter.
As a Council Tax payer, I have the right to an opinion, but you seem to be riding roughshod over any anti-planning permission post that appears.
Its madness!!!
I dont agree with violent behaviour, so to inform me some protesters have been arrested is irrelevant.......i dont condone violence, and i'm not violent?????
Do stick to the facts in hand man, or go away.
[quote][p][bold]Jamesuns[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mrs philainsy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jamesuns[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]EveDallas[/bold] wrote: Maybe its only the so called 'thugs' making a violent protest,because no one else has the guts to stand up and protest. we don't want this or any other mosque in this town or indeed the country. shame on you bolton council, in a so called democratic society every rate paying boltonian should have had a vote. but thats too easy because if we did have a vote the decision would have gone the other way.[/p][/quote]when you say we I assume you actually mean you dont unless I have somehow lost the ability to think for myself? the people making violent protests obviously arent thugs if they were I am sure they would reason using logic instead of resorting to violence?[/p][/quote]jamesuns are you in a rubber room, wrapped in a striaght jacket, being deprived of sharp objects, with a pencil stuck up each nostril ?? bore off you silly girl and hand the laptop back to matron before lights out. plonker or what?[/p][/quote]no i am actually in my residence on Blackburn Road not far from where the new mosque will be built so will actually be effected by the plans ulike most of the people commenting on this thread. Your reply to my comment reinforces my statement as you appear to have reduced your argument to petty name calling rather than actually putting forward any kind of statement. The people causing trouble at the meeting have already been arrested for violent/racist behaviour and are awaiting trial FACT!!!!!![/p][/quote]The Fact is Jamesun, you seem to think you have the monopoly on what is built in Bolton. Do the residents of Little Lever, New Bury, Moses Gate, Farnworth, Halliwell, Belmont etc etc not have a say, in your blinkered eyes, about what goes on in Bolton Planning wise? I have no doubt the Muslim People you have met / live near are nice people, no-one said they werent, the fact in hand is that another place of worship, of super-sized proportions, is not needed in Bolton. Every resident has a say in the matter. As a Council Tax payer, I have the right to an opinion, but you seem to be riding roughshod over any anti-planning permission post that appears. Its madness!!! I dont agree with violent behaviour, so to inform me some protesters have been arrested is irrelevant.......i dont condone violence, and i'm not violent????? Do stick to the facts in hand man, or go away. mrs philainsy
  • Score: 2

5:08pm Mon 7 Jul 14

Jamesuns says...

mrs philainsy wrote:
Jamesuns wrote:
mrs philainsy wrote:
Jamesuns wrote:
EveDallas wrote:
Maybe its only the so called 'thugs' making a violent protest,because no one else has the guts to stand up and protest. we don't want this or any other mosque in this town or indeed the country.
shame on you bolton council, in a so called democratic society every rate paying boltonian should have had a vote. but thats too easy because if we did have a vote the decision would have gone the other way.
when you say we I assume you actually mean you dont unless I have somehow lost the ability to think for myself?

the people making violent protests obviously arent thugs if they were I am sure they would reason using logic instead of resorting to violence?
jamesuns are you in a rubber room, wrapped in a striaght jacket, being deprived of sharp objects, with a pencil stuck up each nostril ??


bore off you silly girl and hand the laptop back to matron before lights out.


plonker or what?
no i am actually in my residence on Blackburn Road not far from where the new mosque will be built so will actually be effected by the plans ulike most of the people commenting on this thread.

Your reply to my comment reinforces my statement as you appear to have reduced your argument to petty name calling rather than actually putting forward any kind of statement.

The people causing trouble at the meeting have already been arrested for violent/racist behaviour and are awaiting trial FACT!!!!!!
The Fact is Jamesun, you seem to think you have the monopoly on what is built in Bolton.
Do the residents of Little Lever, New Bury, Moses Gate, Farnworth, Halliwell, Belmont etc etc not have a say, in your blinkered eyes, about what goes on in Bolton Planning wise?
I have no doubt the Muslim People you have met / live near are nice people, no-one said they werent, the fact in hand is that another place of worship, of super-sized proportions, is not needed in Bolton.
Every resident has a say in the matter.
As a Council Tax payer, I have the right to an opinion, but you seem to be riding roughshod over any anti-planning permission post that appears.
Its madness!!!
I dont agree with violent behaviour, so to inform me some protesters have been arrested is irrelevant.......i dont condone violence, and i'm not violent?????
Do stick to the facts in hand man, or go away.
I am not saying I have a monopoly on what gets planning permission in Bolton what I am saying is that people who are not from the local area have no place objecting to a Mosque on the basis they will be inconvinienced by the additional traffic, they dont live in the area so wont be effected.

You do indeed have a right to an opinion as does everyone else and you also have the right to appeal, in the corrent, non violent lawfull manner.

The original post we are both commenting on is trying to suggest that the people that caused trouble at the meeting were right in doing so as they are the only people that are making a protest, I disagree and pointed out that the people doing this were already on charges for violence/assault which is very relevent to the original points that were being talked about.

In other words I was sticking to the facts and using FACTS to back up my argument, if you back up the actions of people that are being violent you are condoning their violent behaviour, I think its you that should stick to the facts as you obviously didnt even read the original post that had been commented on.......

Also you say ANOTHER place of worship is not needed 1 - 1 = 0, 0 + 1 = 1, do the maths if one mosque replaces another there isnt another place of worship in Bolton, again i suggest yopu get your facts straight or maybe just think for a second before spouting complete rubbish.
[quote][p][bold]mrs philainsy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jamesuns[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mrs philainsy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jamesuns[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]EveDallas[/bold] wrote: Maybe its only the so called 'thugs' making a violent protest,because no one else has the guts to stand up and protest. we don't want this or any other mosque in this town or indeed the country. shame on you bolton council, in a so called democratic society every rate paying boltonian should have had a vote. but thats too easy because if we did have a vote the decision would have gone the other way.[/p][/quote]when you say we I assume you actually mean you dont unless I have somehow lost the ability to think for myself? the people making violent protests obviously arent thugs if they were I am sure they would reason using logic instead of resorting to violence?[/p][/quote]jamesuns are you in a rubber room, wrapped in a striaght jacket, being deprived of sharp objects, with a pencil stuck up each nostril ?? bore off you silly girl and hand the laptop back to matron before lights out. plonker or what?[/p][/quote]no i am actually in my residence on Blackburn Road not far from where the new mosque will be built so will actually be effected by the plans ulike most of the people commenting on this thread. Your reply to my comment reinforces my statement as you appear to have reduced your argument to petty name calling rather than actually putting forward any kind of statement. The people causing trouble at the meeting have already been arrested for violent/racist behaviour and are awaiting trial FACT!!!!!![/p][/quote]The Fact is Jamesun, you seem to think you have the monopoly on what is built in Bolton. Do the residents of Little Lever, New Bury, Moses Gate, Farnworth, Halliwell, Belmont etc etc not have a say, in your blinkered eyes, about what goes on in Bolton Planning wise? I have no doubt the Muslim People you have met / live near are nice people, no-one said they werent, the fact in hand is that another place of worship, of super-sized proportions, is not needed in Bolton. Every resident has a say in the matter. As a Council Tax payer, I have the right to an opinion, but you seem to be riding roughshod over any anti-planning permission post that appears. Its madness!!! I dont agree with violent behaviour, so to inform me some protesters have been arrested is irrelevant.......i dont condone violence, and i'm not violent????? Do stick to the facts in hand man, or go away.[/p][/quote]I am not saying I have a monopoly on what gets planning permission in Bolton what I am saying is that people who are not from the local area have no place objecting to a Mosque on the basis they will be inconvinienced by the additional traffic, they dont live in the area so wont be effected. You do indeed have a right to an opinion as does everyone else and you also have the right to appeal, in the corrent, non violent lawfull manner. The original post we are both commenting on is trying to suggest that the people that caused trouble at the meeting were right in doing so as they are the only people that are making a protest, I disagree and pointed out that the people doing this were already on charges for violence/assault which is very relevent to the original points that were being talked about. In other words I was sticking to the facts and using FACTS to back up my argument, if you back up the actions of people that are being violent you are condoning their violent behaviour, I think its you that should stick to the facts as you obviously didnt even read the original post that had been commented on....... Also you say ANOTHER place of worship is not needed 1 - 1 = 0, 0 + 1 = 1, do the maths if one mosque replaces another there isnt another place of worship in Bolton, again i suggest yopu get your facts straight or maybe just think for a second before spouting complete rubbish. Jamesuns
  • Score: 4

5:08pm Mon 7 Jul 14

Jamesuns says...

mrs philainsy wrote:
Jamesuns wrote:
mrs philainsy wrote:
Jamesuns wrote:
EveDallas wrote:
Maybe its only the so called 'thugs' making a violent protest,because no one else has the guts to stand up and protest. we don't want this or any other mosque in this town or indeed the country.
shame on you bolton council, in a so called democratic society every rate paying boltonian should have had a vote. but thats too easy because if we did have a vote the decision would have gone the other way.
when you say we I assume you actually mean you dont unless I have somehow lost the ability to think for myself?

the people making violent protests obviously arent thugs if they were I am sure they would reason using logic instead of resorting to violence?
jamesuns are you in a rubber room, wrapped in a striaght jacket, being deprived of sharp objects, with a pencil stuck up each nostril ??


bore off you silly girl and hand the laptop back to matron before lights out.


plonker or what?
no i am actually in my residence on Blackburn Road not far from where the new mosque will be built so will actually be effected by the plans ulike most of the people commenting on this thread.

Your reply to my comment reinforces my statement as you appear to have reduced your argument to petty name calling rather than actually putting forward any kind of statement.

The people causing trouble at the meeting have already been arrested for violent/racist behaviour and are awaiting trial FACT!!!!!!
The Fact is Jamesun, you seem to think you have the monopoly on what is built in Bolton.
Do the residents of Little Lever, New Bury, Moses Gate, Farnworth, Halliwell, Belmont etc etc not have a say, in your blinkered eyes, about what goes on in Bolton Planning wise?
I have no doubt the Muslim People you have met / live near are nice people, no-one said they werent, the fact in hand is that another place of worship, of super-sized proportions, is not needed in Bolton.
Every resident has a say in the matter.
As a Council Tax payer, I have the right to an opinion, but you seem to be riding roughshod over any anti-planning permission post that appears.
Its madness!!!
I dont agree with violent behaviour, so to inform me some protesters have been arrested is irrelevant.......i dont condone violence, and i'm not violent?????
Do stick to the facts in hand man, or go away.
I am not saying I have a monopoly on what gets planning permission in Bolton what I am saying is that people who are not from the local area have no place objecting to a Mosque on the basis they will be inconvinienced by the additional traffic, they dont live in the area so wont be effected.

You do indeed have a right to an opinion as does everyone else and you also have the right to appeal, in the corrent, non violent lawfull manner.

The original post we are both commenting on is trying to suggest that the people that caused trouble at the meeting were right in doing so as they are the only people that are making a protest, I disagree and pointed out that the people doing this were already on charges for violence/assault which is very relevent to the original points that were being talked about.

In other words I was sticking to the facts and using FACTS to back up my argument, if you back up the actions of people that are being violent you are condoning their violent behaviour, I think its you that should stick to the facts as you obviously didnt even read the original post that had been commented on.......

Also you say ANOTHER place of worship is not needed 1 - 1 = 0, 0 + 1 = 1, do the maths if one mosque replaces another there isnt another place of worship in Bolton, again i suggest yopu get your facts straight or maybe just think for a second before spouting complete rubbish.
[quote][p][bold]mrs philainsy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jamesuns[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mrs philainsy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jamesuns[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]EveDallas[/bold] wrote: Maybe its only the so called 'thugs' making a violent protest,because no one else has the guts to stand up and protest. we don't want this or any other mosque in this town or indeed the country. shame on you bolton council, in a so called democratic society every rate paying boltonian should have had a vote. but thats too easy because if we did have a vote the decision would have gone the other way.[/p][/quote]when you say we I assume you actually mean you dont unless I have somehow lost the ability to think for myself? the people making violent protests obviously arent thugs if they were I am sure they would reason using logic instead of resorting to violence?[/p][/quote]jamesuns are you in a rubber room, wrapped in a striaght jacket, being deprived of sharp objects, with a pencil stuck up each nostril ?? bore off you silly girl and hand the laptop back to matron before lights out. plonker or what?[/p][/quote]no i am actually in my residence on Blackburn Road not far from where the new mosque will be built so will actually be effected by the plans ulike most of the people commenting on this thread. Your reply to my comment reinforces my statement as you appear to have reduced your argument to petty name calling rather than actually putting forward any kind of statement. The people causing trouble at the meeting have already been arrested for violent/racist behaviour and are awaiting trial FACT!!!!!![/p][/quote]The Fact is Jamesun, you seem to think you have the monopoly on what is built in Bolton. Do the residents of Little Lever, New Bury, Moses Gate, Farnworth, Halliwell, Belmont etc etc not have a say, in your blinkered eyes, about what goes on in Bolton Planning wise? I have no doubt the Muslim People you have met / live near are nice people, no-one said they werent, the fact in hand is that another place of worship, of super-sized proportions, is not needed in Bolton. Every resident has a say in the matter. As a Council Tax payer, I have the right to an opinion, but you seem to be riding roughshod over any anti-planning permission post that appears. Its madness!!! I dont agree with violent behaviour, so to inform me some protesters have been arrested is irrelevant.......i dont condone violence, and i'm not violent????? Do stick to the facts in hand man, or go away.[/p][/quote]I am not saying I have a monopoly on what gets planning permission in Bolton what I am saying is that people who are not from the local area have no place objecting to a Mosque on the basis they will be inconvinienced by the additional traffic, they dont live in the area so wont be effected. You do indeed have a right to an opinion as does everyone else and you also have the right to appeal, in the corrent, non violent lawfull manner. The original post we are both commenting on is trying to suggest that the people that caused trouble at the meeting were right in doing so as they are the only people that are making a protest, I disagree and pointed out that the people doing this were already on charges for violence/assault which is very relevent to the original points that were being talked about. In other words I was sticking to the facts and using FACTS to back up my argument, if you back up the actions of people that are being violent you are condoning their violent behaviour, I think its you that should stick to the facts as you obviously didnt even read the original post that had been commented on....... Also you say ANOTHER place of worship is not needed 1 - 1 = 0, 0 + 1 = 1, do the maths if one mosque replaces another there isnt another place of worship in Bolton, again i suggest yopu get your facts straight or maybe just think for a second before spouting complete rubbish. Jamesuns
  • Score: 2

7:10pm Mon 7 Jul 14

mrs philainsy says...

Jamesuns wrote:
mrs philainsy wrote:
Jamesuns wrote:
mrs philainsy wrote:
Jamesuns wrote:
EveDallas wrote:
Maybe its only the so called 'thugs' making a violent protest,because no one else has the guts to stand up and protest. we don't want this or any other mosque in this town or indeed the country.
shame on you bolton council, in a so called democratic society every rate paying boltonian should have had a vote. but thats too easy because if we did have a vote the decision would have gone the other way.
when you say we I assume you actually mean you dont unless I have somehow lost the ability to think for myself?

the people making violent protests obviously arent thugs if they were I am sure they would reason using logic instead of resorting to violence?
jamesuns are you in a rubber room, wrapped in a striaght jacket, being deprived of sharp objects, with a pencil stuck up each nostril ??


bore off you silly girl and hand the laptop back to matron before lights out.


plonker or what?
no i am actually in my residence on Blackburn Road not far from where the new mosque will be built so will actually be effected by the plans ulike most of the people commenting on this thread.

Your reply to my comment reinforces my statement as you appear to have reduced your argument to petty name calling rather than actually putting forward any kind of statement.

The people causing trouble at the meeting have already been arrested for violent/racist behaviour and are awaiting trial FACT!!!!!!
The Fact is Jamesun, you seem to think you have the monopoly on what is built in Bolton.
Do the residents of Little Lever, New Bury, Moses Gate, Farnworth, Halliwell, Belmont etc etc not have a say, in your blinkered eyes, about what goes on in Bolton Planning wise?
I have no doubt the Muslim People you have met / live near are nice people, no-one said they werent, the fact in hand is that another place of worship, of super-sized proportions, is not needed in Bolton.
Every resident has a say in the matter.
As a Council Tax payer, I have the right to an opinion, but you seem to be riding roughshod over any anti-planning permission post that appears.
Its madness!!!
I dont agree with violent behaviour, so to inform me some protesters have been arrested is irrelevant.......i dont condone violence, and i'm not violent?????
Do stick to the facts in hand man, or go away.
I am not saying I have a monopoly on what gets planning permission in Bolton what I am saying is that people who are not from the local area have no place objecting to a Mosque on the basis they will be inconvinienced by the additional traffic, they dont live in the area so wont be effected.

You do indeed have a right to an opinion as does everyone else and you also have the right to appeal, in the corrent, non violent lawfull manner.

The original post we are both commenting on is trying to suggest that the people that caused trouble at the meeting were right in doing so as they are the only people that are making a protest, I disagree and pointed out that the people doing this were already on charges for violence/assault which is very relevent to the original points that were being talked about.

In other words I was sticking to the facts and using FACTS to back up my argument, if you back up the actions of people that are being violent you are condoning their violent behaviour, I think its you that should stick to the facts as you obviously didnt even read the original post that had been commented on.......

Also you say ANOTHER place of worship is not needed 1 - 1 = 0, 0 + 1 = 1, do the maths if one mosque replaces another there isnt another place of worship in Bolton, again i suggest yopu get your facts straight or maybe just think for a second before spouting complete rubbish.
Jamesuns -
i suggest yopu get your facts straight .



Whats a yopu ?


Just spell-check for a moment before spouting rubbish.
[quote][p][bold]Jamesuns[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mrs philainsy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jamesuns[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mrs philainsy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jamesuns[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]EveDallas[/bold] wrote: Maybe its only the so called 'thugs' making a violent protest,because no one else has the guts to stand up and protest. we don't want this or any other mosque in this town or indeed the country. shame on you bolton council, in a so called democratic society every rate paying boltonian should have had a vote. but thats too easy because if we did have a vote the decision would have gone the other way.[/p][/quote]when you say we I assume you actually mean you dont unless I have somehow lost the ability to think for myself? the people making violent protests obviously arent thugs if they were I am sure they would reason using logic instead of resorting to violence?[/p][/quote]jamesuns are you in a rubber room, wrapped in a striaght jacket, being deprived of sharp objects, with a pencil stuck up each nostril ?? bore off you silly girl and hand the laptop back to matron before lights out. plonker or what?[/p][/quote]no i am actually in my residence on Blackburn Road not far from where the new mosque will be built so will actually be effected by the plans ulike most of the people commenting on this thread. Your reply to my comment reinforces my statement as you appear to have reduced your argument to petty name calling rather than actually putting forward any kind of statement. The people causing trouble at the meeting have already been arrested for violent/racist behaviour and are awaiting trial FACT!!!!!![/p][/quote]The Fact is Jamesun, you seem to think you have the monopoly on what is built in Bolton. Do the residents of Little Lever, New Bury, Moses Gate, Farnworth, Halliwell, Belmont etc etc not have a say, in your blinkered eyes, about what goes on in Bolton Planning wise? I have no doubt the Muslim People you have met / live near are nice people, no-one said they werent, the fact in hand is that another place of worship, of super-sized proportions, is not needed in Bolton. Every resident has a say in the matter. As a Council Tax payer, I have the right to an opinion, but you seem to be riding roughshod over any anti-planning permission post that appears. Its madness!!! I dont agree with violent behaviour, so to inform me some protesters have been arrested is irrelevant.......i dont condone violence, and i'm not violent????? Do stick to the facts in hand man, or go away.[/p][/quote]I am not saying I have a monopoly on what gets planning permission in Bolton what I am saying is that people who are not from the local area have no place objecting to a Mosque on the basis they will be inconvinienced by the additional traffic, they dont live in the area so wont be effected. You do indeed have a right to an opinion as does everyone else and you also have the right to appeal, in the corrent, non violent lawfull manner. The original post we are both commenting on is trying to suggest that the people that caused trouble at the meeting were right in doing so as they are the only people that are making a protest, I disagree and pointed out that the people doing this were already on charges for violence/assault which is very relevent to the original points that were being talked about. In other words I was sticking to the facts and using FACTS to back up my argument, if you back up the actions of people that are being violent you are condoning their violent behaviour, I think its you that should stick to the facts as you obviously didnt even read the original post that had been commented on....... Also you say ANOTHER place of worship is not needed 1 - 1 = 0, 0 + 1 = 1, do the maths if one mosque replaces another there isnt another place of worship in Bolton, again i suggest yopu get your facts straight or maybe just think for a second before spouting complete rubbish.[/p][/quote]Jamesuns - i suggest yopu get your facts straight . Whats a yopu ? Just spell-check for a moment before spouting rubbish. mrs philainsy
  • Score: -1

7:17pm Mon 7 Jul 14

Jamesuns says...

mrs philainsy wrote:
Jamesuns wrote:
mrs philainsy wrote:
Jamesuns wrote:
mrs philainsy wrote:
Jamesuns wrote:
EveDallas wrote:
Maybe its only the so called 'thugs' making a violent protest,because no one else has the guts to stand up and protest. we don't want this or any other mosque in this town or indeed the country.
shame on you bolton council, in a so called democratic society every rate paying boltonian should have had a vote. but thats too easy because if we did have a vote the decision would have gone the other way.
when you say we I assume you actually mean you dont unless I have somehow lost the ability to think for myself?

the people making violent protests obviously arent thugs if they were I am sure they would reason using logic instead of resorting to violence?
jamesuns are you in a rubber room, wrapped in a striaght jacket, being deprived of sharp objects, with a pencil stuck up each nostril ??


bore off you silly girl and hand the laptop back to matron before lights out.


plonker or what?
no i am actually in my residence on Blackburn Road not far from where the new mosque will be built so will actually be effected by the plans ulike most of the people commenting on this thread.

Your reply to my comment reinforces my statement as you appear to have reduced your argument to petty name calling rather than actually putting forward any kind of statement.

The people causing trouble at the meeting have already been arrested for violent/racist behaviour and are awaiting trial FACT!!!!!!
The Fact is Jamesun, you seem to think you have the monopoly on what is built in Bolton.
Do the residents of Little Lever, New Bury, Moses Gate, Farnworth, Halliwell, Belmont etc etc not have a say, in your blinkered eyes, about what goes on in Bolton Planning wise?
I have no doubt the Muslim People you have met / live near are nice people, no-one said they werent, the fact in hand is that another place of worship, of super-sized proportions, is not needed in Bolton.
Every resident has a say in the matter.
As a Council Tax payer, I have the right to an opinion, but you seem to be riding roughshod over any anti-planning permission post that appears.
Its madness!!!
I dont agree with violent behaviour, so to inform me some protesters have been arrested is irrelevant.......i dont condone violence, and i'm not violent?????
Do stick to the facts in hand man, or go away.
I am not saying I have a monopoly on what gets planning permission in Bolton what I am saying is that people who are not from the local area have no place objecting to a Mosque on the basis they will be inconvinienced by the additional traffic, they dont live in the area so wont be effected.

You do indeed have a right to an opinion as does everyone else and you also have the right to appeal, in the corrent, non violent lawfull manner.

The original post we are both commenting on is trying to suggest that the people that caused trouble at the meeting were right in doing so as they are the only people that are making a protest, I disagree and pointed out that the people doing this were already on charges for violence/assault which is very relevent to the original points that were being talked about.

In other words I was sticking to the facts and using FACTS to back up my argument, if you back up the actions of people that are being violent you are condoning their violent behaviour, I think its you that should stick to the facts as you obviously didnt even read the original post that had been commented on.......

Also you say ANOTHER place of worship is not needed 1 - 1 = 0, 0 + 1 = 1, do the maths if one mosque replaces another there isnt another place of worship in Bolton, again i suggest yopu get your facts straight or maybe just think for a second before spouting complete rubbish.
Jamesuns -
i suggest yopu get your facts straight .



Whats a yopu ?


Just spell-check for a moment before spouting rubbish.
my facts are straight already, 'whats a yopu' its obviously a typo (as you point out a spell check would have fixed it), nice to know the only thing you can pull me on is a simple spelling mistake that suggests to me you know what I have actually said is correct!!

thanks for yet again proving my point.
[quote][p][bold]mrs philainsy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jamesuns[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mrs philainsy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jamesuns[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mrs philainsy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jamesuns[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]EveDallas[/bold] wrote: Maybe its only the so called 'thugs' making a violent protest,because no one else has the guts to stand up and protest. we don't want this or any other mosque in this town or indeed the country. shame on you bolton council, in a so called democratic society every rate paying boltonian should have had a vote. but thats too easy because if we did have a vote the decision would have gone the other way.[/p][/quote]when you say we I assume you actually mean you dont unless I have somehow lost the ability to think for myself? the people making violent protests obviously arent thugs if they were I am sure they would reason using logic instead of resorting to violence?[/p][/quote]jamesuns are you in a rubber room, wrapped in a striaght jacket, being deprived of sharp objects, with a pencil stuck up each nostril ?? bore off you silly girl and hand the laptop back to matron before lights out. plonker or what?[/p][/quote]no i am actually in my residence on Blackburn Road not far from where the new mosque will be built so will actually be effected by the plans ulike most of the people commenting on this thread. Your reply to my comment reinforces my statement as you appear to have reduced your argument to petty name calling rather than actually putting forward any kind of statement. The people causing trouble at the meeting have already been arrested for violent/racist behaviour and are awaiting trial FACT!!!!!![/p][/quote]The Fact is Jamesun, you seem to think you have the monopoly on what is built in Bolton. Do the residents of Little Lever, New Bury, Moses Gate, Farnworth, Halliwell, Belmont etc etc not have a say, in your blinkered eyes, about what goes on in Bolton Planning wise? I have no doubt the Muslim People you have met / live near are nice people, no-one said they werent, the fact in hand is that another place of worship, of super-sized proportions, is not needed in Bolton. Every resident has a say in the matter. As a Council Tax payer, I have the right to an opinion, but you seem to be riding roughshod over any anti-planning permission post that appears. Its madness!!! I dont agree with violent behaviour, so to inform me some protesters have been arrested is irrelevant.......i dont condone violence, and i'm not violent????? Do stick to the facts in hand man, or go away.[/p][/quote]I am not saying I have a monopoly on what gets planning permission in Bolton what I am saying is that people who are not from the local area have no place objecting to a Mosque on the basis they will be inconvinienced by the additional traffic, they dont live in the area so wont be effected. You do indeed have a right to an opinion as does everyone else and you also have the right to appeal, in the corrent, non violent lawfull manner. The original post we are both commenting on is trying to suggest that the people that caused trouble at the meeting were right in doing so as they are the only people that are making a protest, I disagree and pointed out that the people doing this were already on charges for violence/assault which is very relevent to the original points that were being talked about. In other words I was sticking to the facts and using FACTS to back up my argument, if you back up the actions of people that are being violent you are condoning their violent behaviour, I think its you that should stick to the facts as you obviously didnt even read the original post that had been commented on....... Also you say ANOTHER place of worship is not needed 1 - 1 = 0, 0 + 1 = 1, do the maths if one mosque replaces another there isnt another place of worship in Bolton, again i suggest yopu get your facts straight or maybe just think for a second before spouting complete rubbish.[/p][/quote]Jamesuns - i suggest yopu get your facts straight . Whats a yopu ? Just spell-check for a moment before spouting rubbish.[/p][/quote]my facts are straight already, 'whats a yopu' its obviously a typo (as you point out a spell check would have fixed it), nice to know the only thing you can pull me on is a simple spelling mistake that suggests to me you know what I have actually said is correct!! thanks for yet again proving my point. Jamesuns
  • Score: 3

12:02pm Tue 8 Jul 14

BillPatterson says...

allan111111 wrote:
It was always going to be approved despite the ill feeling from the English community.....We no longer live in a democracy
What. You think that knuckle dragging violent racist rabble is the 'English community'? Well thank God the Muslims got their mosque then. Maybe they can teach the 'English community' how to behave properly.
[quote][p][bold]allan111111[/bold] wrote: It was always going to be approved despite the ill feeling from the English community.....We no longer live in a democracy[/p][/quote]What. You think that knuckle dragging violent racist rabble is the 'English community'? Well thank God the Muslims got their mosque then. Maybe they can teach the 'English community' how to behave properly. BillPatterson
  • Score: -71

12:09pm Tue 8 Jul 14

BillPatterson says...

allan111111 wrote:
It was always going to be approved despite the ill feeling from the English community.....We no longer live in a democracy
The angry mob said they would be at the masjid every week. Well that's good. I sincerely hope they will attend every week. I think the masjid should then invite them in and teach them about Islam. Maybe they will convert to Islam and fill the empty void in their lives. They seem so angry.
[quote][p][bold]allan111111[/bold] wrote: It was always going to be approved despite the ill feeling from the English community.....We no longer live in a democracy[/p][/quote]The angry mob said they would be at the masjid every week. Well that's good. I sincerely hope they will attend every week. I think the masjid should then invite them in and teach them about Islam. Maybe they will convert to Islam and fill the empty void in their lives. They seem so angry. BillPatterson
  • Score: -678

1:54pm Tue 8 Jul 14

spiritus says...

An example of how mosques try to extend the scope of their influence beyond their own community can be found at the mosque on Gilnow Road near Heaton Cemetery.

Shortly after opening, a large banner was tied to the railings of Heaton cemetery promoting the need for donations to Bolton Council of Mosques.

Users from the mosque also use the cemetery as an overspill car park on certain occasions. I reported this to the police and the Council as one particular time there were 50+ cars parked alongside the entrance of the cemetery............
my name was then leaked to the mosque either by the Council or the police !
An example of how mosques try to extend the scope of their influence beyond their own community can be found at the mosque on Gilnow Road near Heaton Cemetery. Shortly after opening, a large banner was tied to the railings of Heaton cemetery promoting the need for donations to Bolton Council of Mosques. Users from the mosque also use the cemetery as an overspill car park on certain occasions. I reported this to the police and the Council as one particular time there were 50+ cars parked alongside the entrance of the cemetery............ my name was then leaked to the mosque either by the Council or the police ! spiritus
  • Score: 52

2:11pm Tue 8 Jul 14

Jamesuns says...

spiritus wrote:
An example of how mosques try to extend the scope of their influence beyond their own community can be found at the mosque on Gilnow Road near Heaton Cemetery.

Shortly after opening, a large banner was tied to the railings of Heaton cemetery promoting the need for donations to Bolton Council of Mosques.

Users from the mosque also use the cemetery as an overspill car park on certain occasions. I reported this to the police and the Council as one particular time there were 50+ cars parked alongside the entrance of the cemetery............

my name was then leaked to the mosque either by the Council or the police !
do you know if the mosque had asked permission to tie the banner to the gate?

were the cars parked on the road?

(these are genuine questions im not having a go)
[quote][p][bold]spiritus[/bold] wrote: An example of how mosques try to extend the scope of their influence beyond their own community can be found at the mosque on Gilnow Road near Heaton Cemetery. Shortly after opening, a large banner was tied to the railings of Heaton cemetery promoting the need for donations to Bolton Council of Mosques. Users from the mosque also use the cemetery as an overspill car park on certain occasions. I reported this to the police and the Council as one particular time there were 50+ cars parked alongside the entrance of the cemetery............ my name was then leaked to the mosque either by the Council or the police ![/p][/quote]do you know if the mosque had asked permission to tie the banner to the gate? were the cars parked on the road? (these are genuine questions im not having a go) Jamesuns
  • Score: -48

4:31pm Tue 8 Jul 14

johnnyjackson says...

Jamesuns wrote:
spiritus wrote:
An example of how mosques try to extend the scope of their influence beyond their own community can be found at the mosque on Gilnow Road near Heaton Cemetery.

Shortly after opening, a large banner was tied to the railings of Heaton cemetery promoting the need for donations to Bolton Council of Mosques.

Users from the mosque also use the cemetery as an overspill car park on certain occasions. I reported this to the police and the Council as one particular time there were 50+ cars parked alongside the entrance of the cemetery............


my name was then leaked to the mosque either by the Council or the police !
do you know if the mosque had asked permission to tie the banner to the gate?

were the cars parked on the road?

(these are genuine questions im not having a go)
I also witnessed this, however, the cars were parked on the road alongisde the cemetery. I dont think the road belongs to the cemetery.
[quote][p][bold]Jamesuns[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spiritus[/bold] wrote: An example of how mosques try to extend the scope of their influence beyond their own community can be found at the mosque on Gilnow Road near Heaton Cemetery. Shortly after opening, a large banner was tied to the railings of Heaton cemetery promoting the need for donations to Bolton Council of Mosques. Users from the mosque also use the cemetery as an overspill car park on certain occasions. I reported this to the police and the Council as one particular time there were 50+ cars parked alongside the entrance of the cemetery............ my name was then leaked to the mosque either by the Council or the police ![/p][/quote]do you know if the mosque had asked permission to tie the banner to the gate? were the cars parked on the road? (these are genuine questions im not having a go)[/p][/quote]I also witnessed this, however, the cars were parked on the road alongisde the cemetery. I dont think the road belongs to the cemetery. johnnyjackson
  • Score: -71

4:42pm Tue 8 Jul 14

Jamesuns says...

johnnyjackson wrote:
Jamesuns wrote:
spiritus wrote:
An example of how mosques try to extend the scope of their influence beyond their own community can be found at the mosque on Gilnow Road near Heaton Cemetery.

Shortly after opening, a large banner was tied to the railings of Heaton cemetery promoting the need for donations to Bolton Council of Mosques.

Users from the mosque also use the cemetery as an overspill car park on certain occasions. I reported this to the police and the Council as one particular time there were 50+ cars parked alongside the entrance of the cemetery............



my name was then leaked to the mosque either by the Council or the police !
do you know if the mosque had asked permission to tie the banner to the gate?

were the cars parked on the road?

(these are genuine questions im not having a go)
I also witnessed this, however, the cars were parked on the road alongisde the cemetery. I dont think the road belongs to the cemetery.
so members of the public park cars at side of road, the police wouldnt have been able to do anything about it no crime is being commited and whilst it may be an inconvinience for car travelling up that one particular road in bolton at that time its hardley the end of the world is it.

Im not sure how that constitutes trying to extend the scope of their influence beyond their own community either really??

PS to Spiritus - if you live in the same area then their community is also yours, you may not follow the same religion but you live in the same community, or am I missing something
[quote][p][bold]johnnyjackson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jamesuns[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spiritus[/bold] wrote: An example of how mosques try to extend the scope of their influence beyond their own community can be found at the mosque on Gilnow Road near Heaton Cemetery. Shortly after opening, a large banner was tied to the railings of Heaton cemetery promoting the need for donations to Bolton Council of Mosques. Users from the mosque also use the cemetery as an overspill car park on certain occasions. I reported this to the police and the Council as one particular time there were 50+ cars parked alongside the entrance of the cemetery............ my name was then leaked to the mosque either by the Council or the police ![/p][/quote]do you know if the mosque had asked permission to tie the banner to the gate? were the cars parked on the road? (these are genuine questions im not having a go)[/p][/quote]I also witnessed this, however, the cars were parked on the road alongisde the cemetery. I dont think the road belongs to the cemetery.[/p][/quote]so members of the public park cars at side of road, the police wouldnt have been able to do anything about it no crime is being commited and whilst it may be an inconvinience for car travelling up that one particular road in bolton at that time its hardley the end of the world is it. Im not sure how that constitutes trying to extend the scope of their influence beyond their own community either really?? PS to Spiritus - if you live in the same area then their community is also yours, you may not follow the same religion but you live in the same community, or am I missing something Jamesuns
  • Score: -40

7:19pm Tue 8 Jul 14

Up The Revolution says...

BillPatterson wrote:
allan111111 wrote:
It was always going to be approved despite the ill feeling from the English community.....We no longer live in a democracy
What. You think that knuckle dragging violent racist rabble is the 'English community'? Well thank God the Muslims got their mosque then. Maybe they can teach the 'English community' how to behave properly.
How about teaching us English how to behave from somewhere in Asia where you belong ??
[quote][p][bold]BillPatterson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]allan111111[/bold] wrote: It was always going to be approved despite the ill feeling from the English community.....We no longer live in a democracy[/p][/quote]What. You think that knuckle dragging violent racist rabble is the 'English community'? Well thank God the Muslims got their mosque then. Maybe they can teach the 'English community' how to behave properly.[/p][/quote]How about teaching us English how to behave from somewhere in Asia where you belong ?? Up The Revolution
  • Score: 19

7:37pm Tue 8 Jul 14

Phonik says...

Jamesuns wrote:
johnnyjackson wrote:
Jamesuns wrote:
spiritus wrote:
An example of how mosques try to extend the scope of their influence beyond their own community can be found at the mosque on Gilnow Road near Heaton Cemetery.

Shortly after opening, a large banner was tied to the railings of Heaton cemetery promoting the need for donations to Bolton Council of Mosques.

Users from the mosque also use the cemetery as an overspill car park on certain occasions. I reported this to the police and the Council as one particular time there were 50+ cars parked alongside the entrance of the cemetery............




my name was then leaked to the mosque either by the Council or the police !
do you know if the mosque had asked permission to tie the banner to the gate?

were the cars parked on the road?

(these are genuine questions im not having a go)
I also witnessed this, however, the cars were parked on the road alongisde the cemetery. I dont think the road belongs to the cemetery.
so members of the public park cars at side of road, the police wouldnt have been able to do anything about it no crime is being commited and whilst it may be an inconvinience for car travelling up that one particular road in bolton at that time its hardley the end of the world is it.

Im not sure how that constitutes trying to extend the scope of their influence beyond their own community either really??

PS to Spiritus - if you live in the same area then their community is also yours, you may not follow the same religion but you live in the same community, or am I missing something
9/11
[quote][p][bold]Jamesuns[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]johnnyjackson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jamesuns[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spiritus[/bold] wrote: An example of how mosques try to extend the scope of their influence beyond their own community can be found at the mosque on Gilnow Road near Heaton Cemetery. Shortly after opening, a large banner was tied to the railings of Heaton cemetery promoting the need for donations to Bolton Council of Mosques. Users from the mosque also use the cemetery as an overspill car park on certain occasions. I reported this to the police and the Council as one particular time there were 50+ cars parked alongside the entrance of the cemetery............ my name was then leaked to the mosque either by the Council or the police ![/p][/quote]do you know if the mosque had asked permission to tie the banner to the gate? were the cars parked on the road? (these are genuine questions im not having a go)[/p][/quote]I also witnessed this, however, the cars were parked on the road alongisde the cemetery. I dont think the road belongs to the cemetery.[/p][/quote]so members of the public park cars at side of road, the police wouldnt have been able to do anything about it no crime is being commited and whilst it may be an inconvinience for car travelling up that one particular road in bolton at that time its hardley the end of the world is it. Im not sure how that constitutes trying to extend the scope of their influence beyond their own community either really?? PS to Spiritus - if you live in the same area then their community is also yours, you may not follow the same religion but you live in the same community, or am I missing something[/p][/quote]9/11 Phonik
  • Score: 88

8:57pm Tue 8 Jul 14

albertmodley says...

BillPatterson wrote:
allan111111 wrote:
It was always going to be approved despite the ill feeling from the English community.....We no longer live in a democracy
What. You think that knuckle dragging violent racist rabble is the 'English community'? Well thank God the Muslims got their mosque then. Maybe they can teach the 'English community' how to behave properly.
Do you mean like that "perfect role model "muslim boy Amir what's his name?
[quote][p][bold]BillPatterson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]allan111111[/bold] wrote: It was always going to be approved despite the ill feeling from the English community.....We no longer live in a democracy[/p][/quote]What. You think that knuckle dragging violent racist rabble is the 'English community'? Well thank God the Muslims got their mosque then. Maybe they can teach the 'English community' how to behave properly.[/p][/quote]Do you mean like that "perfect role model "muslim boy Amir what's his name? albertmodley
  • Score: -1

10:51pm Tue 8 Jul 14

TheJust1 says...

When the BNP and the EDL say they are defending the Christian heritage and the British values then what they actually mean is that any body who is Christian like the paedophile priests abusing children do not have to fear these bigoted/racist thugs and their sympathisers because they will not be holding protest out the churches, again when they say they are defending the British values then what they actually mean is that anyone or any group or any institution or organisationwho happens to be White British the likes of Jimmy Saville, Cyril Smith over the paedophile abuses, the police force, the houses of parliament and the BBC do not fear because there will not be any protest outside these people's homes or institutions and organisations premises. REAL DOUBLE STANDARDS. ANY DECENT FAIR DEALING, TOLERANT AND JUST INDIVIDUALS AND GROUP SHOULD IGNORE THE BNP AND EDL ALTOGETHER.
When the BNP and the EDL say they are defending the Christian heritage and the British values then what they actually mean is that any body who is Christian like the paedophile priests abusing children do not have to fear these bigoted/racist thugs and their sympathisers because they will not be holding protest out the churches, again when they say they are defending the British values then what they actually mean is that anyone or any group or any institution or organisationwho happens to be White British the likes of Jimmy Saville, Cyril Smith over the paedophile abuses, the police force, the houses of parliament and the BBC do not fear because there will not be any protest outside these people's homes or institutions and organisations premises. REAL DOUBLE STANDARDS. ANY DECENT FAIR DEALING, TOLERANT AND JUST INDIVIDUALS AND GROUP SHOULD IGNORE THE BNP AND EDL ALTOGETHER. TheJust1
  • Score: 0

9:04am Wed 9 Jul 14

Jamesuns says...

Phonik wrote:
Jamesuns wrote:
johnnyjackson wrote:
Jamesuns wrote:
spiritus wrote:
An example of how mosques try to extend the scope of their influence beyond their own community can be found at the mosque on Gilnow Road near Heaton Cemetery.

Shortly after opening, a large banner was tied to the railings of Heaton cemetery promoting the need for donations to Bolton Council of Mosques.

Users from the mosque also use the cemetery as an overspill car park on certain occasions. I reported this to the police and the Council as one particular time there were 50+ cars parked alongside the entrance of the cemetery............





my name was then leaked to the mosque either by the Council or the police !
do you know if the mosque had asked permission to tie the banner to the gate?

were the cars parked on the road?

(these are genuine questions im not having a go)
I also witnessed this, however, the cars were parked on the road alongisde the cemetery. I dont think the road belongs to the cemetery.
so members of the public park cars at side of road, the police wouldnt have been able to do anything about it no crime is being commited and whilst it may be an inconvinience for car travelling up that one particular road in bolton at that time its hardley the end of the world is it.

Im not sure how that constitutes trying to extend the scope of their influence beyond their own community either really??

PS to Spiritus - if you live in the same area then their community is also yours, you may not follow the same religion but you live in the same community, or am I missing something
9/11
why am i reminded of the family guy episode where lois is running for mayor and her only comment is 9/11?

thanks for your insightfull contribution to this heated debate I am sure you have spent a lot of time research the matter, unfortunatly we were talking about parking in Bolton we dont live in America (as yet but i would be more worried about the US taking over than Islam we have done what they have said for years, ever heqard of the rothchilds?)
[quote][p][bold]Phonik[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jamesuns[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]johnnyjackson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jamesuns[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spiritus[/bold] wrote: An example of how mosques try to extend the scope of their influence beyond their own community can be found at the mosque on Gilnow Road near Heaton Cemetery. Shortly after opening, a large banner was tied to the railings of Heaton cemetery promoting the need for donations to Bolton Council of Mosques. Users from the mosque also use the cemetery as an overspill car park on certain occasions. I reported this to the police and the Council as one particular time there were 50+ cars parked alongside the entrance of the cemetery............ my name was then leaked to the mosque either by the Council or the police ![/p][/quote]do you know if the mosque had asked permission to tie the banner to the gate? were the cars parked on the road? (these are genuine questions im not having a go)[/p][/quote]I also witnessed this, however, the cars were parked on the road alongisde the cemetery. I dont think the road belongs to the cemetery.[/p][/quote]so members of the public park cars at side of road, the police wouldnt have been able to do anything about it no crime is being commited and whilst it may be an inconvinience for car travelling up that one particular road in bolton at that time its hardley the end of the world is it. Im not sure how that constitutes trying to extend the scope of their influence beyond their own community either really?? PS to Spiritus - if you live in the same area then their community is also yours, you may not follow the same religion but you live in the same community, or am I missing something[/p][/quote]9/11[/p][/quote]why am i reminded of the family guy episode where lois is running for mayor and her only comment is 9/11? thanks for your insightfull contribution to this heated debate I am sure you have spent a lot of time research the matter, unfortunatly we were talking about parking in Bolton we dont live in America (as yet but i would be more worried about the US taking over than Islam we have done what they have said for years, ever heqard of the rothchilds?) Jamesuns
  • Score: -33

9:07am Wed 9 Jul 14

Jamesuns says...

Up The Revolution wrote:
BillPatterson wrote:
allan111111 wrote:
It was always going to be approved despite the ill feeling from the English community.....We no longer live in a democracy
What. You think that knuckle dragging violent racist rabble is the 'English community'? Well thank God the Muslims got their mosque then. Maybe they can teach the 'English community' how to behave properly.
How about teaching us English how to behave from somewhere in Asia where you belong ??
bill patterson is obviously an Asian name well spotted
[quote][p][bold]Up The Revolution[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BillPatterson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]allan111111[/bold] wrote: It was always going to be approved despite the ill feeling from the English community.....We no longer live in a democracy[/p][/quote]What. You think that knuckle dragging violent racist rabble is the 'English community'? Well thank God the Muslims got their mosque then. Maybe they can teach the 'English community' how to behave properly.[/p][/quote]How about teaching us English how to behave from somewhere in Asia where you belong ??[/p][/quote]bill patterson is obviously an Asian name well spotted Jamesuns
  • Score: -38

9:38pm Wed 9 Jul 14

TheJust1 says...

I commented on Friday 4th July at 11:49am where I quoted a passage from the condoning massacre and paedophilia Jewish/Christian Bible with references and the Legality of Zoophilia and then at 4:55pm where I also made some comments yet no BNP/EDL thug or their sympathisers denied that these facts from their Holy book is untrue or that they disagree with the Bible, that is probably why the priests, Jimmy Saville and the likes of Cyril Smith got away with.
I commented on Friday 4th July at 11:49am where I quoted a passage from the condoning massacre and paedophilia Jewish/Christian Bible with references and the Legality of Zoophilia and then at 4:55pm where I also made some comments yet no BNP/EDL thug or their sympathisers denied that these facts from their Holy book is untrue or that they disagree with the Bible, that is probably why the priests, Jimmy Saville and the likes of Cyril Smith got away with. TheJust1
  • Score: -26

6:07pm Fri 11 Jul 14

Phonik says...

Jamesuns wrote:
Phonik wrote:
Jamesuns wrote:
johnnyjackson wrote:
Jamesuns wrote:
spiritus wrote:
An example of how mosques try to extend the scope of their influence beyond their own community can be found at the mosque on Gilnow Road near Heaton Cemetery.

Shortly after opening, a large banner was tied to the railings of Heaton cemetery promoting the need for donations to Bolton Council of Mosques.

Users from the mosque also use the cemetery as an overspill car park on certain occasions. I reported this to the police and the Council as one particular time there were 50+ cars parked alongside the entrance of the cemetery............






my name was then leaked to the mosque either by the Council or the police !
do you know if the mosque had asked permission to tie the banner to the gate?

were the cars parked on the road?

(these are genuine questions im not having a go)
I also witnessed this, however, the cars were parked on the road alongisde the cemetery. I dont think the road belongs to the cemetery.
so members of the public park cars at side of road, the police wouldnt have been able to do anything about it no crime is being commited and whilst it may be an inconvinience for car travelling up that one particular road in bolton at that time its hardley the end of the world is it.

Im not sure how that constitutes trying to extend the scope of their influence beyond their own community either really??

PS to Spiritus - if you live in the same area then their community is also yours, you may not follow the same religion but you live in the same community, or am I missing something
9/11
why am i reminded of the family guy episode where lois is running for mayor and her only comment is 9/11?

thanks for your insightfull contribution to this heated debate I am sure you have spent a lot of time research the matter, unfortunatly we were talking about parking in Bolton we dont live in America (as yet but i would be more worried about the US taking over than Islam we have done what they have said for years, ever heqard of the rothchilds?)
9...................
.....
11.................
[quote][p][bold]Jamesuns[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Phonik[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jamesuns[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]johnnyjackson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jamesuns[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spiritus[/bold] wrote: An example of how mosques try to extend the scope of their influence beyond their own community can be found at the mosque on Gilnow Road near Heaton Cemetery. Shortly after opening, a large banner was tied to the railings of Heaton cemetery promoting the need for donations to Bolton Council of Mosques. Users from the mosque also use the cemetery as an overspill car park on certain occasions. I reported this to the police and the Council as one particular time there were 50+ cars parked alongside the entrance of the cemetery............ my name was then leaked to the mosque either by the Council or the police ![/p][/quote]do you know if the mosque had asked permission to tie the banner to the gate? were the cars parked on the road? (these are genuine questions im not having a go)[/p][/quote]I also witnessed this, however, the cars were parked on the road alongisde the cemetery. I dont think the road belongs to the cemetery.[/p][/quote]so members of the public park cars at side of road, the police wouldnt have been able to do anything about it no crime is being commited and whilst it may be an inconvinience for car travelling up that one particular road in bolton at that time its hardley the end of the world is it. Im not sure how that constitutes trying to extend the scope of their influence beyond their own community either really?? PS to Spiritus - if you live in the same area then their community is also yours, you may not follow the same religion but you live in the same community, or am I missing something[/p][/quote]9/11[/p][/quote]why am i reminded of the family guy episode where lois is running for mayor and her only comment is 9/11? thanks for your insightfull contribution to this heated debate I am sure you have spent a lot of time research the matter, unfortunatly we were talking about parking in Bolton we dont live in America (as yet but i would be more worried about the US taking over than Islam we have done what they have said for years, ever heqard of the rothchilds?)[/p][/quote]9................... ..... 11................. Phonik
  • Score: 0

7:41am Sat 12 Jul 14

Wigan Trotter says...

The problems are not today, but in the future when Islam becomes the main religion and Muslims the main race in now not so Great Britain.

Those who lost their lives fighting to save our country from oppression must be turning in their graves to see the way our country is being invaded by people from a race and religion which is responsible for most of the trouble in the world at the present time.

And what I say is not racism, just fact.

Thankfully, I will not be around the result of the folly!
The problems are not today, but in the future when Islam becomes the main religion and Muslims the main race in now not so Great Britain. Those who lost their lives fighting to save our country from oppression must be turning in their graves to see the way our country is being invaded by people from a race and religion which is responsible for most of the trouble in the world at the present time. And what I say is not racism, just fact. Thankfully, I will not be around the result of the folly! Wigan Trotter
  • Score: 0

5:25pm Mon 14 Jul 14

shaz55 says...

bolton is being taken over by these people, its not the bolton i knew any more, the reason why all these plans get passed for mosques etc is because someone in the planning dept in bolton town hall is getting a back hander and they have been getting it for years, we couldnt go to india etc and build what we want it wouldnt be allowed so why is it happening here, and yes i agree there will be a blood bath in bolton before long because the people in this town are sick of being walked on and tempers are running high, we are loosing shops right left and centre all our churches are closing and mosques being built everywere, when in rome do as the romans do or go home and build your mosques there us boltonians have had enough.
bolton is being taken over by these people, its not the bolton i knew any more, the reason why all these plans get passed for mosques etc is because someone in the planning dept in bolton town hall is getting a back hander and they have been getting it for years, we couldnt go to india etc and build what we want it wouldnt be allowed so why is it happening here, and yes i agree there will be a blood bath in bolton before long because the people in this town are sick of being walked on and tempers are running high, we are loosing shops right left and centre all our churches are closing and mosques being built everywere, when in rome do as the romans do or go home and build your mosques there us boltonians have had enough. shaz55
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