Warning to dog owners after mystery animal deaths at Doffcocker Lodge

Warning to dog owners after mystery animal deaths at Doffcocker Lodge

Warning sign at Doffcocker Lodge Pictures by Olivia Green

The substance was first thought to be deadly blue green algae

First published in News The Bolton News: Photograph of the Author by , news feature writer

DOG owners are being warned not to let their pets swim in Doffcocker Lodge after several birds died because of a mystery substance in the water.

A number of Canada geese, coots and ducks are reported to have died after spending time in the water, and the Lancashire Wildlife Trust (LWT) confirmed that a dog was taken ill on Thursday following a swim in the lake.

Bolton Council has put up warning signs around the lodge after the substance, first thought to be poisonous blue-green algae, claimed the lives of the birds.

Tests by the Environment Agency came back negative for the algae.

A spokesman for the LWT said: “We have received some calls from members of the public linked to death of wildfowl.

“It is a Bolton Council owned site, so we are in the process liaising with them to support them with efforts to minimise the risk of harm to visitors to the nature reserve and identify the cause of death for species at the site.”

The nature reserve, which is managed by the LWT, is home to common terns and great crested grebes, as well as birds of prey such as sparrowhawks, kestrels and buzzards.

The lodge, located on the western outskirts of Bolton off Moss Bank Way, is a popular spot for dog walkers. A council spokesman said: “We were alerted to issues earlier in the week and consulted the Environment Agency, which is carrying out tests for suspected blue green algae.

“We have placed warning signs at the lodge to inform dog walkers and other visitors to be aware of the potential dangers, and they will be in place until the algae clears up.”

A spokesman for the Environment Agency said: “A sample of the water was taken on Tuesday, but the test for blue-green algae came back negative.

“However, as more sick wildfowl have been found we would advise visitors to still adhere to the warnings until we carry out a full test next week.”

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11:39am Sat 12 Jul 14

waka flocks flame says...

It's a shame and I hope it's sorted out soon but that notice shouldn't be needed anyway. It really riles me how some dog walkers think that the rules about keeping dogs on a leash don't apply to them and what sort of ignoramus would let their dog swim in the nature reserve anyway. If Bolton Council are short of money they could make a killing fining owners of dogs not on leads.
It's a shame and I hope it's sorted out soon but that notice shouldn't be needed anyway. It really riles me how some dog walkers think that the rules about keeping dogs on a leash don't apply to them and what sort of ignoramus would let their dog swim in the nature reserve anyway. If Bolton Council are short of money they could make a killing fining owners of dogs not on leads. waka flocks flame
  • Score: 9

12:02pm Sat 12 Jul 14

allan111111 says...

United utilities are probably the culprits
United utilities are probably the culprits allan111111
  • Score: -7

12:11pm Sat 12 Jul 14

renovatedhouserunner says...

I have been walking my dogs on that lodge for 25 yrs, they should be allowed off the lead, as long as you can control them. It's the not dogs what have caused the pollution. Bolton council gets enough money from people for nothing
I have been walking my dogs on that lodge for 25 yrs, they should be allowed off the lead, as long as you can control them. It's the not dogs what have caused the pollution. Bolton council gets enough money from people for nothing renovatedhouserunner
  • Score: 5

12:29pm Sat 12 Jul 14

SleepingThunder says...

No Golf ?
No Golf ? SleepingThunder
  • Score: 5

12:44pm Sat 12 Jul 14

waka flocks flame says...

renovatedhouserunner wrote:
I have been walking my dogs on that lodge for 25 yrs, they should be allowed off the lead, as long as you can control them. It's the not dogs what have caused the pollution. Bolton council gets enough money from people for nothing
It's nothing to do with the pollution why dogs should be on a lead its a nature reserve a habitat for wildlife and while you may have your dog under a lot of people don't. Also what people class as control is different person to person. On Doffcocker Lodge the level of control your dog should be under is being constantly by your side and not going off the path it shouldn't be running around because this worries the wildlife. You may see it as a harmless dog having fun but to the animals and birds at the lodge they see it as a predator to be wary of.
[quote][p][bold]renovatedhouserunner[/bold] wrote: I have been walking my dogs on that lodge for 25 yrs, they should be allowed off the lead, as long as you can control them. It's the not dogs what have caused the pollution. Bolton council gets enough money from people for nothing[/p][/quote]It's nothing to do with the pollution why dogs should be on a lead its a nature reserve a habitat for wildlife and while you may have your dog under a lot of people don't. Also what people class as control is different person to person. On Doffcocker Lodge the level of control your dog should be under is being constantly by your side and not going off the path it shouldn't be running around because this worries the wildlife. You may see it as a harmless dog having fun but to the animals and birds at the lodge they see it as a predator to be wary of. waka flocks flame
  • Score: 19

1:17pm Sat 12 Jul 14

Mr Swan says...

The rules state what you can and can't do, even people swim in the lodge , I overlook the lodge and see dogs chasing the wildlife and causing havock. I'm not saying the issue is because of dog owners ignoring the rules and I can't believe people are on here implying so. We need to find out what is killing the wildlife especially as the swans have new babies to protect and they have only just come back over the last two tears.
One last point, I wonder if the people who let their dogs of the lead would mind if people came round to their houses and let 200 ducks, geese and other wildlife run round for an hour.
The rules state what you can and can't do, even people swim in the lodge , I overlook the lodge and see dogs chasing the wildlife and causing havock. I'm not saying the issue is because of dog owners ignoring the rules and I can't believe people are on here implying so. We need to find out what is killing the wildlife especially as the swans have new babies to protect and they have only just come back over the last two tears. One last point, I wonder if the people who let their dogs of the lead would mind if people came round to their houses and let 200 ducks, geese and other wildlife run round for an hour. Mr Swan
  • Score: 15

1:21pm Sat 12 Jul 14

calvin street says...

waka flocks flame wrote:
renovatedhouserunner wrote:
I have been walking my dogs on that lodge for 25 yrs, they should be allowed off the lead, as long as you can control them. It's the not dogs what have caused the pollution. Bolton council gets enough money from people for nothing
It's nothing to do with the pollution why dogs should be on a lead its a nature reserve a habitat for wildlife and while you may have your dog under a lot of people don't. Also what people class as control is different person to person. On Doffcocker Lodge the level of control your dog should be under is being constantly by your side and not going off the path it shouldn't be running around because this worries the wildlife. You may see it as a harmless dog having fun but to the animals and birds at the lodge they see it as a predator to be wary of.
Waki, you seem to care about wildlife but not about dogs. Like most of your posts , Very Strange.
[quote][p][bold]waka flocks flame[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]renovatedhouserunner[/bold] wrote: I have been walking my dogs on that lodge for 25 yrs, they should be allowed off the lead, as long as you can control them. It's the not dogs what have caused the pollution. Bolton council gets enough money from people for nothing[/p][/quote]It's nothing to do with the pollution why dogs should be on a lead its a nature reserve a habitat for wildlife and while you may have your dog under a lot of people don't. Also what people class as control is different person to person. On Doffcocker Lodge the level of control your dog should be under is being constantly by your side and not going off the path it shouldn't be running around because this worries the wildlife. You may see it as a harmless dog having fun but to the animals and birds at the lodge they see it as a predator to be wary of.[/p][/quote]Waki, you seem to care about wildlife but not about dogs. Like most of your posts , Very Strange. calvin street
  • Score: -13

3:10pm Sat 12 Jul 14

The Running Man says...

calvin street wrote:
waka flocks flame wrote:
renovatedhouserunner wrote:
I have been walking my dogs on that lodge for 25 yrs, they should be allowed off the lead, as long as you can control them. It's the not dogs what have caused the pollution. Bolton council gets enough money from people for nothing
It's nothing to do with the pollution why dogs should be on a lead its a nature reserve a habitat for wildlife and while you may have your dog under a lot of people don't. Also what people class as control is different person to person. On Doffcocker Lodge the level of control your dog should be under is being constantly by your side and not going off the path it shouldn't be running around because this worries the wildlife. You may see it as a harmless dog having fun but to the animals and birds at the lodge they see it as a predator to be wary of.
Waki, you seem to care about wildlife but not about dogs. Like most of your posts , Very Strange.
This relates to the way the animals are controlled, so I'd suggest it refers to the owners not the animals. And why shouldn't someone raise concerns about irresponsible animal ownership?

Oh, and while we're on the subject, please can the caring dog owners shift their dogs poo? It isn't pleasant at all.
[quote][p][bold]calvin street[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]waka flocks flame[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]renovatedhouserunner[/bold] wrote: I have been walking my dogs on that lodge for 25 yrs, they should be allowed off the lead, as long as you can control them. It's the not dogs what have caused the pollution. Bolton council gets enough money from people for nothing[/p][/quote]It's nothing to do with the pollution why dogs should be on a lead its a nature reserve a habitat for wildlife and while you may have your dog under a lot of people don't. Also what people class as control is different person to person. On Doffcocker Lodge the level of control your dog should be under is being constantly by your side and not going off the path it shouldn't be running around because this worries the wildlife. You may see it as a harmless dog having fun but to the animals and birds at the lodge they see it as a predator to be wary of.[/p][/quote]Waki, you seem to care about wildlife but not about dogs. Like most of your posts , Very Strange.[/p][/quote]This relates to the way the animals are controlled, so I'd suggest it refers to the owners not the animals. And why shouldn't someone raise concerns about irresponsible animal ownership? Oh, and while we're on the subject, please can the caring dog owners shift their dogs poo? It isn't pleasant at all. The Running Man
  • Score: 26

3:21pm Sat 12 Jul 14

waka flocks flame says...

calvin street wrote:
waka flocks flame wrote:
renovatedhouserunner wrote:
I have been walking my dogs on that lodge for 25 yrs, they should be allowed off the lead, as long as you can control them. It's the not dogs what have caused the pollution. Bolton council gets enough money from people for nothing
It's nothing to do with the pollution why dogs should be on a lead its a nature reserve a habitat for wildlife and while you may have your dog under a lot of people don't. Also what people class as control is different person to person. On Doffcocker Lodge the level of control your dog should be under is being constantly by your side and not going off the path it shouldn't be running around because this worries the wildlife. You may see it as a harmless dog having fun but to the animals and birds at the lodge they see it as a predator to be wary of.
Waki, you seem to care about wildlife but not about dogs. Like most of your posts , Very Strange.
I haven't got a problem with dogs at all just irresponsible owners. There are plenty of places where dogs can run about why do it in a nature reserve?
[quote][p][bold]calvin street[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]waka flocks flame[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]renovatedhouserunner[/bold] wrote: I have been walking my dogs on that lodge for 25 yrs, they should be allowed off the lead, as long as you can control them. It's the not dogs what have caused the pollution. Bolton council gets enough money from people for nothing[/p][/quote]It's nothing to do with the pollution why dogs should be on a lead its a nature reserve a habitat for wildlife and while you may have your dog under a lot of people don't. Also what people class as control is different person to person. On Doffcocker Lodge the level of control your dog should be under is being constantly by your side and not going off the path it shouldn't be running around because this worries the wildlife. You may see it as a harmless dog having fun but to the animals and birds at the lodge they see it as a predator to be wary of.[/p][/quote]Waki, you seem to care about wildlife but not about dogs. Like most of your posts , Very Strange.[/p][/quote]I haven't got a problem with dogs at all just irresponsible owners. There are plenty of places where dogs can run about why do it in a nature reserve? waka flocks flame
  • Score: 20

3:23pm Sat 12 Jul 14

waka flocks flame says...

Mr Swan wrote:
The rules state what you can and can't do, even people swim in the lodge , I overlook the lodge and see dogs chasing the wildlife and causing havock. I'm not saying the issue is because of dog owners ignoring the rules and I can't believe people are on here implying so. We need to find out what is killing the wildlife especially as the swans have new babies to protect and they have only just come back over the last two tears.
One last point, I wonder if the people who let their dogs of the lead would mind if people came round to their houses and let 200 ducks, geese and other wildlife run round for an hour.
I wasn't implying that dogs are causing the problems just that notices to warn dog owners shouldn't be needed as only a moron would let their dog swim in a nature reserve.
[quote][p][bold]Mr Swan[/bold] wrote: The rules state what you can and can't do, even people swim in the lodge , I overlook the lodge and see dogs chasing the wildlife and causing havock. I'm not saying the issue is because of dog owners ignoring the rules and I can't believe people are on here implying so. We need to find out what is killing the wildlife especially as the swans have new babies to protect and they have only just come back over the last two tears. One last point, I wonder if the people who let their dogs of the lead would mind if people came round to their houses and let 200 ducks, geese and other wildlife run round for an hour.[/p][/quote]I wasn't implying that dogs are causing the problems just that notices to warn dog owners shouldn't be needed as only a moron would let their dog swim in a nature reserve. waka flocks flame
  • Score: 4

3:26pm Sat 12 Jul 14

waka flocks flame says...

calvin street wrote:
waka flocks flame wrote:
renovatedhouserunner wrote:
I have been walking my dogs on that lodge for 25 yrs, they should be allowed off the lead, as long as you can control them. It's the not dogs what have caused the pollution. Bolton council gets enough money from people for nothing
It's nothing to do with the pollution why dogs should be on a lead its a nature reserve a habitat for wildlife and while you may have your dog under a lot of people don't. Also what people class as control is different person to person. On Doffcocker Lodge the level of control your dog should be under is being constantly by your side and not going off the path it shouldn't be running around because this worries the wildlife. You may see it as a harmless dog having fun but to the animals and birds at the lodge they see it as a predator to be wary of.
Waki, you seem to care about wildlife but not about dogs. Like most of your posts , Very Strange.
Its strange to be more concerned about the environment and wildlife than other peoples dogs? I guess I must be strange then.
[quote][p][bold]calvin street[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]waka flocks flame[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]renovatedhouserunner[/bold] wrote: I have been walking my dogs on that lodge for 25 yrs, they should be allowed off the lead, as long as you can control them. It's the not dogs what have caused the pollution. Bolton council gets enough money from people for nothing[/p][/quote]It's nothing to do with the pollution why dogs should be on a lead its a nature reserve a habitat for wildlife and while you may have your dog under a lot of people don't. Also what people class as control is different person to person. On Doffcocker Lodge the level of control your dog should be under is being constantly by your side and not going off the path it shouldn't be running around because this worries the wildlife. You may see it as a harmless dog having fun but to the animals and birds at the lodge they see it as a predator to be wary of.[/p][/quote]Waki, you seem to care about wildlife but not about dogs. Like most of your posts , Very Strange.[/p][/quote]Its strange to be more concerned about the environment and wildlife than other peoples dogs? I guess I must be strange then. waka flocks flame
  • Score: 3

4:33pm Sat 12 Jul 14

itsnotthatbad says...

The cause of the pollution is all the Johnny fold lot having a dip on a hot day!
The cause of the pollution is all the Johnny fold lot having a dip on a hot day! itsnotthatbad
  • Score: 12

4:47pm Sat 12 Jul 14

renovatedhouserunner says...

I clean up after my dog, it is fully under control. I have been going on that lodge a lot longer than it has been a nature reserve. Birds see my dog as a predator, so they stay out of the way, it's never been a problem until a do-gooder like you makes it a problem.
I clean up after my dog, it is fully under control. I have been going on that lodge a lot longer than it has been a nature reserve. Birds see my dog as a predator, so they stay out of the way, it's never been a problem until a do-gooder like you makes it a problem. renovatedhouserunner
  • Score: -7

4:59pm Sat 12 Jul 14

waka flocks flame says...

renovatedhouserunner wrote:
I clean up after my dog, it is fully under control. I have been going on that lodge a lot longer than it has been a nature reserve. Birds see my dog as a predator, so they stay out of the way, it's never been a problem until a do-gooder like you makes it a problem.
What you mean is it's never been a problem for you.
[quote][p][bold]renovatedhouserunner[/bold] wrote: I clean up after my dog, it is fully under control. I have been going on that lodge a lot longer than it has been a nature reserve. Birds see my dog as a predator, so they stay out of the way, it's never been a problem until a do-gooder like you makes it a problem.[/p][/quote]What you mean is it's never been a problem for you. waka flocks flame
  • Score: 14

5:07pm Sat 12 Jul 14

renovatedhouserunner says...

Yes or anybody else
Yes or anybody else renovatedhouserunner
  • Score: -11

6:54pm Sat 12 Jul 14

PJ Minshull says...

'what sort of ignoramus would let their dog swim in the nature reserve anyway'....? er someone who believes dogs, water, swimming, open air and countryside are all natural things perhaps... and maybe they even have a long lead on them whilst they are enjoying nature? if the kill joys get their way, dogs will have nowhere at all to run... this will result in a lot of very frustrated dogs... and more accidents than ever will be the outcome. it's time bolton council designated some dog areas. this would prevent dogs visiting parks etc. and it would be a lot safer and easier for everyone. especially dog hating lunatics...
'what sort of ignoramus would let their dog swim in the nature reserve anyway'....? er someone who believes dogs, water, swimming, open air and countryside are all natural things perhaps... and maybe they even have a long lead on them whilst they are enjoying nature? if the kill joys get their way, dogs will have nowhere at all to run... this will result in a lot of very frustrated dogs... and more accidents than ever will be the outcome. it's time bolton council designated some dog areas. this would prevent dogs visiting parks etc. and it would be a lot safer and easier for everyone. especially dog hating lunatics... PJ Minshull
  • Score: 1

6:55pm Sat 12 Jul 14

Mr Swan says...

waka flocks flame wrote:
Mr Swan wrote:
The rules state what you can and can't do, even people swim in the lodge , I overlook the lodge and see dogs chasing the wildlife and causing havock. I'm not saying the issue is because of dog owners ignoring the rules and I can't believe people are on here implying so. We need to find out what is killing the wildlife especially as the swans have new babies to protect and they have only just come back over the last two tears.
One last point, I wonder if the people who let their dogs of the lead would mind if people came round to their houses and let 200 ducks, geese and other wildlife run round for an hour.
I wasn't implying that dogs are causing the problems just that notices to warn dog owners shouldn't be needed as only a moron would let their dog swim in a nature reserve.
My post wasn't aimed at you I was generalising, you obviously think a lot of yourself, regarding the moron's, I don't think they are morons if the rules are not enforced then people will break them and then when something goes wrong people will start to make accusations and fling insults at people who have dogs.
There are two issues here one are the dying animals and secondly the enforcement of local laws.
[quote][p][bold]waka flocks flame[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr Swan[/bold] wrote: The rules state what you can and can't do, even people swim in the lodge , I overlook the lodge and see dogs chasing the wildlife and causing havock. I'm not saying the issue is because of dog owners ignoring the rules and I can't believe people are on here implying so. We need to find out what is killing the wildlife especially as the swans have new babies to protect and they have only just come back over the last two tears. One last point, I wonder if the people who let their dogs of the lead would mind if people came round to their houses and let 200 ducks, geese and other wildlife run round for an hour.[/p][/quote]I wasn't implying that dogs are causing the problems just that notices to warn dog owners shouldn't be needed as only a moron would let their dog swim in a nature reserve.[/p][/quote]My post wasn't aimed at you I was generalising, you obviously think a lot of yourself, regarding the moron's, I don't think they are morons if the rules are not enforced then people will break them and then when something goes wrong people will start to make accusations and fling insults at people who have dogs. There are two issues here one are the dying animals and secondly the enforcement of local laws. Mr Swan
  • Score: 3

7:18pm Sat 12 Jul 14

artistpaint says...

No golf.... what a prat that person is.golf is for fat morons with constant constipation.prob uu they think nothing of killing geese.
No golf.... what a prat that person is.golf is for fat morons with constant constipation.prob uu they think nothing of killing geese. artistpaint
  • Score: 3

8:11pm Sat 12 Jul 14

artistpaint says...

What is it about dog walkers.they walk them but in most cases dont pick the **** up.and what about the dog walkers who pick the **** up put it in a doggy bag and then chuck it where the dog first did the ****.or hang it on a tree branch..makes you laugh
What is it about dog walkers.they walk them but in most cases dont pick the **** up.and what about the dog walkers who pick the **** up put it in a doggy bag and then chuck it where the dog first did the ****.or hang it on a tree branch..makes you laugh artistpaint
  • Score: 9

8:13pm Sat 12 Jul 14

artistpaint says...

Dog walkers take your dog **** with you.morons
Dog walkers take your dog **** with you.morons artistpaint
  • Score: 7

8:24pm Sat 12 Jul 14

calvin street says...

waka flocks flame wrote:
calvin street wrote:
waka flocks flame wrote:
renovatedhouserunner wrote:
I have been walking my dogs on that lodge for 25 yrs, they should be allowed off the lead, as long as you can control them. It's the not dogs what have caused the pollution. Bolton council gets enough money from people for nothing
It's nothing to do with the pollution why dogs should be on a lead its a nature reserve a habitat for wildlife and while you may have your dog under a lot of people don't. Also what people class as control is different person to person. On Doffcocker Lodge the level of control your dog should be under is being constantly by your side and not going off the path it shouldn't be running around because this worries the wildlife. You may see it as a harmless dog having fun but to the animals and birds at the lodge they see it as a predator to be wary of.
Waki, you seem to care about wildlife but not about dogs. Like most of your posts , Very Strange.
Its strange to be more concerned about the environment and wildlife than other peoples dogs? I guess I must be strange then.
Yep, you are strange, answered me twice, go lie down, it will be dark soon , you will be ok
[quote][p][bold]waka flocks flame[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]calvin street[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]waka flocks flame[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]renovatedhouserunner[/bold] wrote: I have been walking my dogs on that lodge for 25 yrs, they should be allowed off the lead, as long as you can control them. It's the not dogs what have caused the pollution. Bolton council gets enough money from people for nothing[/p][/quote]It's nothing to do with the pollution why dogs should be on a lead its a nature reserve a habitat for wildlife and while you may have your dog under a lot of people don't. Also what people class as control is different person to person. On Doffcocker Lodge the level of control your dog should be under is being constantly by your side and not going off the path it shouldn't be running around because this worries the wildlife. You may see it as a harmless dog having fun but to the animals and birds at the lodge they see it as a predator to be wary of.[/p][/quote]Waki, you seem to care about wildlife but not about dogs. Like most of your posts , Very Strange.[/p][/quote]Its strange to be more concerned about the environment and wildlife than other peoples dogs? I guess I must be strange then.[/p][/quote]Yep, you are strange, answered me twice, go lie down, it will be dark soon , you will be ok calvin street
  • Score: -4

8:37pm Sat 12 Jul 14

calvin street says...

artistpaint wrote:
Dog walkers take your dog **** with you.morons
arspant, don't class all dog owners the same. Most of the people who I bump into/speak to pick up there dogs doings. Out of interest do you stop your mates flicking cig ends end on the floor, throwing a half eat pizza on the floor. I know the answer. IT IS NO. unless you have no friends and end up commenting on this site like the the rest of us ALL sad individuals. I have a dog and pick up whatever he does whether in view of other people or not. Give your head and tail a shake.
[quote][p][bold]artistpaint[/bold] wrote: Dog walkers take your dog **** with you.morons[/p][/quote]arspant, don't class all dog owners the same. Most of the people who I bump into/speak to pick up there dogs doings. Out of interest do you stop your mates flicking cig ends end on the floor, throwing a half eat pizza on the floor. I know the answer. IT IS NO. unless you have no friends and end up commenting on this site like the the rest of us ALL sad individuals. I have a dog and pick up whatever he does whether in view of other people or not. Give your head and tail a shake. calvin street
  • Score: 5

8:42pm Sat 12 Jul 14

Beyond News Forum says...

waka flocks flame wrote:
It's a shame and I hope it's sorted out soon but that notice shouldn't be needed anyway. It really riles me how some dog walkers think that the rules about keeping dogs on a leash don't apply to them and what sort of ignoramus would let their dog swim in the nature reserve anyway. If Bolton Council are short of money they could make a killing fining owners of dogs not on leads.
^^^This
[quote][p][bold]waka flocks flame[/bold] wrote: It's a shame and I hope it's sorted out soon but that notice shouldn't be needed anyway. It really riles me how some dog walkers think that the rules about keeping dogs on a leash don't apply to them and what sort of ignoramus would let their dog swim in the nature reserve anyway. If Bolton Council are short of money they could make a killing fining owners of dogs not on leads.[/p][/quote]^^^This Beyond News Forum
  • Score: -3

8:45pm Sat 12 Jul 14

Beyond News Forum says...

calvin street wrote:
waka flocks flame wrote:
renovatedhouserunner wrote:
I have been walking my dogs on that lodge for 25 yrs, they should be allowed off the lead, as long as you can control them. It's the not dogs what have caused the pollution. Bolton council gets enough money from people for nothing
It's nothing to do with the pollution why dogs should be on a lead its a nature reserve a habitat for wildlife and while you may have your dog under a lot of people don't. Also what people class as control is different person to person. On Doffcocker Lodge the level of control your dog should be under is being constantly by your side and not going off the path it shouldn't be running around because this worries the wildlife. You may see it as a harmless dog having fun but to the animals and birds at the lodge they see it as a predator to be wary of.
Waki, you seem to care about wildlife but not about dogs. Like most of your posts , Very Strange.
Dog should not be off the lead, even the most timid of dog can snap. It's the wolf gene in them. FACT!
[quote][p][bold]calvin street[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]waka flocks flame[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]renovatedhouserunner[/bold] wrote: I have been walking my dogs on that lodge for 25 yrs, they should be allowed off the lead, as long as you can control them. It's the not dogs what have caused the pollution. Bolton council gets enough money from people for nothing[/p][/quote]It's nothing to do with the pollution why dogs should be on a lead its a nature reserve a habitat for wildlife and while you may have your dog under a lot of people don't. Also what people class as control is different person to person. On Doffcocker Lodge the level of control your dog should be under is being constantly by your side and not going off the path it shouldn't be running around because this worries the wildlife. You may see it as a harmless dog having fun but to the animals and birds at the lodge they see it as a predator to be wary of.[/p][/quote]Waki, you seem to care about wildlife but not about dogs. Like most of your posts , Very Strange.[/p][/quote]Dog should not be off the lead, even the most timid of dog can snap. It's the wolf gene in them. FACT! Beyond News Forum
  • Score: 1

8:52pm Sat 12 Jul 14

Beyond News Forum says...

renovatedhouserunner wrote:
I clean up after my dog, it is fully under control. I have been going on that lodge a lot longer than it has been a nature reserve. Birds see my dog as a predator, so they stay out of the way, it's never been a problem until a do-gooder like you makes it a problem.
It is not about do-gooder **** I back waka on this. Your dog may be under control for now, but one there is a rule and two you never know when your dog might snap.

It is people like you who state that the dog has never harmed anyone before after the dog has sank its teeth into someone.

Why do I know? Bitten twice by what owners have said they do not understand why their dog went crazy. Once on Queens Park by a Pitbull and once at Moss Bank by a Jack Russell... the dog was lucky I like dogs or I would have put my foot through it. And what would the owner have done if I had kicked that little sh!t across the park? Scream blue murder I bet, just like you would it seems.
[quote][p][bold]renovatedhouserunner[/bold] wrote: I clean up after my dog, it is fully under control. I have been going on that lodge a lot longer than it has been a nature reserve. Birds see my dog as a predator, so they stay out of the way, it's never been a problem until a do-gooder like you makes it a problem.[/p][/quote]It is not about do-gooder **** I back waka on this. Your dog may be under control for now, but one there is a rule and two you never know when your dog might snap. It is people like you who state that the dog has never harmed anyone before after the dog has sank its teeth into someone. Why do I know? Bitten twice by what owners have said they do not understand why their dog went crazy. Once on Queens Park by a Pitbull and once at Moss Bank by a Jack Russell... the dog was lucky I like dogs or I would have put my foot through it. And what would the owner have done if I had kicked that little sh!t across the park? Scream blue murder I bet, just like you would it seems. Beyond News Forum
  • Score: 9

8:53pm Sat 12 Jul 14

calvin street says...

Beyond News Forum wrote:
calvin street wrote:
waka flocks flame wrote:
renovatedhouserunner wrote:
I have been walking my dogs on that lodge for 25 yrs, they should be allowed off the lead, as long as you can control them. It's the not dogs what have caused the pollution. Bolton council gets enough money from people for nothing
It's nothing to do with the pollution why dogs should be on a lead its a nature reserve a habitat for wildlife and while you may have your dog under a lot of people don't. Also what people class as control is different person to person. On Doffcocker Lodge the level of control your dog should be under is being constantly by your side and not going off the path it shouldn't be running around because this worries the wildlife. You may see it as a harmless dog having fun but to the animals and birds at the lodge they see it as a predator to be wary of.
Waki, you seem to care about wildlife but not about dogs. Like most of your posts , Very Strange.
Dog should not be off the lead, even the most timid of dog can snap. It's the wolf gene in them. FACT!
Please explain , you obviously know more than me?
[quote][p][bold]Beyond News Forum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]calvin street[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]waka flocks flame[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]renovatedhouserunner[/bold] wrote: I have been walking my dogs on that lodge for 25 yrs, they should be allowed off the lead, as long as you can control them. It's the not dogs what have caused the pollution. Bolton council gets enough money from people for nothing[/p][/quote]It's nothing to do with the pollution why dogs should be on a lead its a nature reserve a habitat for wildlife and while you may have your dog under a lot of people don't. Also what people class as control is different person to person. On Doffcocker Lodge the level of control your dog should be under is being constantly by your side and not going off the path it shouldn't be running around because this worries the wildlife. You may see it as a harmless dog having fun but to the animals and birds at the lodge they see it as a predator to be wary of.[/p][/quote]Waki, you seem to care about wildlife but not about dogs. Like most of your posts , Very Strange.[/p][/quote]Dog should not be off the lead, even the most timid of dog can snap. It's the wolf gene in them. FACT![/p][/quote]Please explain , you obviously know more than me? calvin street
  • Score: 0

9:02pm Sat 12 Jul 14

artistpaint says...

Do you dog walkers leave the **** in your own back gardens 2...doubt it...pick it up bin it or take it home.not rocket science.is it.woof woof.
Do you dog walkers leave the **** in your own back gardens 2...doubt it...pick it up bin it or take it home.not rocket science.is it.woof woof. artistpaint
  • Score: 5

9:03pm Sat 12 Jul 14

renovatedhouserunner says...

You are beyond stupid let alone news
You are beyond stupid let alone news renovatedhouserunner
  • Score: -3

9:09pm Sat 12 Jul 14

Rememberscarborough says...

Just took our eight month old Labrador for it's first dog training lesson and the best behaved animal was a rather large Rotweiler. Dogs, like children, tend to be a reflection of their owners/parents.

There's no way I'd let our dogs off their lead if I thought they'd cause a nuisance and there's no way we'd go out without sufficient poo bags to clean up after them.

Either way I won't be going near Doffcocker until this is sorted out and hope they treat it urgently before more wildlife dies.
Just took our eight month old Labrador for it's first dog training lesson and the best behaved animal was a rather large Rotweiler. Dogs, like children, tend to be a reflection of their owners/parents. There's no way I'd let our dogs off their lead if I thought they'd cause a nuisance and there's no way we'd go out without sufficient poo bags to clean up after them. Either way I won't be going near Doffcocker until this is sorted out and hope they treat it urgently before more wildlife dies. Rememberscarborough
  • Score: 12

3:05am Sun 13 Jul 14

keithyno.1 says...

Oh here we go, the slightest chance and the dog haters are lit up like blue touch paper...ready and willing to spill their bile and venom against creatures that actually seem to ENJOY living, instead of existing in a prison of drudgery, routine, monotony, unhappiness and general day-to-day (nay, year on year) misery like themselves. So dogs are so bloody awful are they, because they "snap" (to quote some previous saddo) from time to time, and occasionally (shock, horror!) POO!! OK then, let's have a think about all the human detritus that gets left behind by their fellow humans in places like Doffcocker Lodge and everywhere else:
McDonalds, Burger King and KFC wrappers
Left-over food from same outlets
Cigarrette ends
Used condoms
Condom wrappers
Used syringes
Plastic soft drink bottles
Beer cans
Vodka/whiskey/brandy
/rum/gin bottles
Cannabis joint butts
Soiled nappies
Soiled underwear
Human faeces
Soiled mattresses
Old sofas
Old television sets
Deodorant canisters
Supermarket carrier bags
Chinese lanterns
Deflated inflatable balloons
Tent pegs
Cigarette packets
Crisp packets
Pizza boxes
Broken CDs
Human vomit

But when it comes to damaging the environment, it's all dogs' fault is it??
To artistpaint, Beyond News Forum and waka flocks flame (or whatever you call yourselves) and all the other dog haters, I have one message...GET STUFFED!!!
Oh here we go, the slightest chance and the dog haters are lit up like blue touch paper...ready and willing to spill their bile and venom against creatures that actually seem to ENJOY living, instead of existing in a prison of drudgery, routine, monotony, unhappiness and general day-to-day (nay, year on year) misery like themselves. So dogs are so bloody awful are they, because they "snap" (to quote some previous saddo) from time to time, and occasionally (shock, horror!) POO!! OK then, let's have a think about all the human detritus that gets left behind by their fellow humans in places like Doffcocker Lodge and everywhere else: McDonalds, Burger King and KFC wrappers Left-over food from same outlets Cigarrette ends Used condoms Condom wrappers Used syringes Plastic soft drink bottles Beer cans Vodka/whiskey/brandy /rum/gin bottles Cannabis joint butts Soiled nappies Soiled underwear Human faeces Soiled mattresses Old sofas Old television sets Deodorant canisters Supermarket carrier bags Chinese lanterns Deflated inflatable balloons Tent pegs Cigarette packets Crisp packets Pizza boxes Broken CDs Human vomit But when it comes to damaging the environment, it's all dogs' fault is it?? To artistpaint, Beyond News Forum and waka flocks flame (or whatever you call yourselves) and all the other dog haters, I have one message...GET STUFFED!!! keithyno.1
  • Score: 42

9:28am Sun 13 Jul 14

the hand says...

I have two dogs and I like to take them out for walks they are the softest pair of dogs you could wish to meet I clean up any dog poo that they do but here's the thing I never let them of the lead as soft as they are they are also quite excitable just like any dog so it shouldn't be left to chance when a dog meets another dog anything can happen dog owners who let there dogs run free are just to lazy to hold and controll their dogs on a lead but this is not the issue that has been reported I hope bolton council get the lodge cleaned up and pronto for the sake of the wild life not the dogs or the dog walkers
I have two dogs and I like to take them out for walks they are the softest pair of dogs you could wish to meet I clean up any dog poo that they do but here's the thing I never let them of the lead as soft as they are they are also quite excitable just like any dog so it shouldn't be left to chance when a dog meets another dog anything can happen dog owners who let there dogs run free are just to lazy to hold and controll their dogs on a lead but this is not the issue that has been reported I hope bolton council get the lodge cleaned up and pronto for the sake of the wild life not the dogs or the dog walkers the hand
  • Score: 14

11:29am Sun 13 Jul 14

The Running Man says...

renovatedhouserunner wrote:
I clean up after my dog, it is fully under control. I have been going on that lodge a lot longer than it has been a nature reserve. Birds see my dog as a predator, so they stay out of the way, it's never been a problem until a do-gooder like you makes it a problem.
Get the **** thing on a lead!
[quote][p][bold]renovatedhouserunner[/bold] wrote: I clean up after my dog, it is fully under control. I have been going on that lodge a lot longer than it has been a nature reserve. Birds see my dog as a predator, so they stay out of the way, it's never been a problem until a do-gooder like you makes it a problem.[/p][/quote]Get the **** thing on a lead! The Running Man
  • Score: -66

5:10pm Sun 13 Jul 14

Beyond News Forum says...

keithyno.1 wrote:
Oh here we go, the slightest chance and the dog haters are lit up like blue touch paper...ready and willing to spill their bile and venom against creatures that actually seem to ENJOY living, instead of existing in a prison of drudgery, routine, monotony, unhappiness and general day-to-day (nay, year on year) misery like themselves. So dogs are so bloody awful are they, because they "snap" (to quote some previous saddo) from time to time, and occasionally (shock, horror!) POO!! OK then, let's have a think about all the human detritus that gets left behind by their fellow humans in places like Doffcocker Lodge and everywhere else:
McDonalds, Burger King and KFC wrappers
Left-over food from same outlets
Cigarrette ends
Used condoms
Condom wrappers
Used syringes
Plastic soft drink bottles
Beer cans
Vodka/whiskey/brandy

/rum/gin bottles
Cannabis joint butts
Soiled nappies
Soiled underwear
Human faeces
Soiled mattresses
Old sofas
Old television sets
Deodorant canisters
Supermarket carrier bags
Chinese lanterns
Deflated inflatable balloons
Tent pegs
Cigarette packets
Crisp packets
Pizza boxes
Broken CDs
Human vomit

But when it comes to damaging the environment, it's all dogs' fault is it??
To artistpaint, Beyond News Forum and waka flocks flame (or whatever you call yourselves) and all the other dog haters, I have one message...GET STUFFED!!!
Never said I am a dog hater... and don't get me started on the vermin that is human.
[quote][p][bold]keithyno.1[/bold] wrote: Oh here we go, the slightest chance and the dog haters are lit up like blue touch paper...ready and willing to spill their bile and venom against creatures that actually seem to ENJOY living, instead of existing in a prison of drudgery, routine, monotony, unhappiness and general day-to-day (nay, year on year) misery like themselves. So dogs are so bloody awful are they, because they "snap" (to quote some previous saddo) from time to time, and occasionally (shock, horror!) POO!! OK then, let's have a think about all the human detritus that gets left behind by their fellow humans in places like Doffcocker Lodge and everywhere else: McDonalds, Burger King and KFC wrappers Left-over food from same outlets Cigarrette ends Used condoms Condom wrappers Used syringes Plastic soft drink bottles Beer cans Vodka/whiskey/brandy /rum/gin bottles Cannabis joint butts Soiled nappies Soiled underwear Human faeces Soiled mattresses Old sofas Old television sets Deodorant canisters Supermarket carrier bags Chinese lanterns Deflated inflatable balloons Tent pegs Cigarette packets Crisp packets Pizza boxes Broken CDs Human vomit But when it comes to damaging the environment, it's all dogs' fault is it?? To artistpaint, Beyond News Forum and waka flocks flame (or whatever you call yourselves) and all the other dog haters, I have one message...GET STUFFED!!![/p][/quote]Never said I am a dog hater... and don't get me started on the vermin that is human. Beyond News Forum
  • Score: -32

10:08am Mon 14 Jul 14

marco999 says...

keithyno.1 wrote:
Oh here we go, the slightest chance and the dog haters are lit up like blue touch paper...ready and willing to spill their bile and venom against creatures that actually seem to ENJOY living, instead of existing in a prison of drudgery, routine, monotony, unhappiness and general day-to-day (nay, year on year) misery like themselves. So dogs are so bloody awful are they, because they "snap" (to quote some previous saddo) from time to time, and occasionally (shock, horror!) POO!! OK then, let's have a think about all the human detritus that gets left behind by their fellow humans in places like Doffcocker Lodge and everywhere else:
McDonalds, Burger King and KFC wrappers
Left-over food from same outlets
Cigarrette ends
Used condoms
Condom wrappers
Used syringes
Plastic soft drink bottles
Beer cans
Vodka/whiskey/brandy

/rum/gin bottles
Cannabis joint butts
Soiled nappies
Soiled underwear
Human faeces
Soiled mattresses
Old sofas
Old television sets
Deodorant canisters
Supermarket carrier bags
Chinese lanterns
Deflated inflatable balloons
Tent pegs
Cigarette packets
Crisp packets
Pizza boxes
Broken CDs
Human vomit

But when it comes to damaging the environment, it's all dogs' fault is it??
To artistpaint, Beyond News Forum and waka flocks flame (or whatever you call yourselves) and all the other dog haters, I have one message...GET STUFFED!!!
Well said!
[quote][p][bold]keithyno.1[/bold] wrote: Oh here we go, the slightest chance and the dog haters are lit up like blue touch paper...ready and willing to spill their bile and venom against creatures that actually seem to ENJOY living, instead of existing in a prison of drudgery, routine, monotony, unhappiness and general day-to-day (nay, year on year) misery like themselves. So dogs are so bloody awful are they, because they "snap" (to quote some previous saddo) from time to time, and occasionally (shock, horror!) POO!! OK then, let's have a think about all the human detritus that gets left behind by their fellow humans in places like Doffcocker Lodge and everywhere else: McDonalds, Burger King and KFC wrappers Left-over food from same outlets Cigarrette ends Used condoms Condom wrappers Used syringes Plastic soft drink bottles Beer cans Vodka/whiskey/brandy /rum/gin bottles Cannabis joint butts Soiled nappies Soiled underwear Human faeces Soiled mattresses Old sofas Old television sets Deodorant canisters Supermarket carrier bags Chinese lanterns Deflated inflatable balloons Tent pegs Cigarette packets Crisp packets Pizza boxes Broken CDs Human vomit But when it comes to damaging the environment, it's all dogs' fault is it?? To artistpaint, Beyond News Forum and waka flocks flame (or whatever you call yourselves) and all the other dog haters, I have one message...GET STUFFED!!![/p][/quote]Well said! marco999
  • Score: 6

12:49pm Mon 14 Jul 14

Lancashire always says...

Beyond News Forum wrote:
renovatedhouserunner wrote: I clean up after my dog, it is fully under control. I have been going on that lodge a lot longer than it has been a nature reserve. Birds see my dog as a predator, so they stay out of the way, it's never been a problem until a do-gooder like you makes it a problem.
It is not about do-gooder **** I back waka on this. Your dog may be under control for now, but one there is a rule and two you never know when your dog might snap. It is people like you who state that the dog has never harmed anyone before after the dog has sank its teeth into someone. Why do I know? Bitten twice by what owners have said they do not understand why their dog went crazy. Once on Queens Park by a Pitbull and once at Moss Bank by a Jack Russell... the dog was lucky I like dogs or I would have put my foot through it. And what would the owner have done if I had kicked that little sh!t across the park? Scream blue murder I bet, just like you would it seems.
Totally agree
I always cleaned up after my dog like a lot of people even before it became an offence. But i do recall litterally having to stand in the Lodge with my dog whilst two Rottweilers not on leads went by` dont tell me they are safe they probably are in your own front room but my dog a Labrador was a naughty piece of work when he was out and always had to be on a lead. What chance did he have against two dogs off leads ? Or my safety for that matter ? Keep your dogs on leads please or do we really have to make this an offence as well ?
[quote][p][bold]Beyond News Forum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]renovatedhouserunner[/bold] wrote: I clean up after my dog, it is fully under control. I have been going on that lodge a lot longer than it has been a nature reserve. Birds see my dog as a predator, so they stay out of the way, it's never been a problem until a do-gooder like you makes it a problem.[/p][/quote]It is not about do-gooder **** I back waka on this. Your dog may be under control for now, but one there is a rule and two you never know when your dog might snap. It is people like you who state that the dog has never harmed anyone before after the dog has sank its teeth into someone. Why do I know? Bitten twice by what owners have said they do not understand why their dog went crazy. Once on Queens Park by a Pitbull and once at Moss Bank by a Jack Russell... the dog was lucky I like dogs or I would have put my foot through it. And what would the owner have done if I had kicked that little sh!t across the park? Scream blue murder I bet, just like you would it seems.[/p][/quote]Totally agree I always cleaned up after my dog like a lot of people even before it became an offence. But i do recall litterally having to stand in the Lodge with my dog whilst two Rottweilers not on leads went by` dont tell me they are safe they probably are in your own front room but my dog a Labrador was a naughty piece of work when he was out and always had to be on a lead. What chance did he have against two dogs off leads ? Or my safety for that matter ? Keep your dogs on leads please or do we really have to make this an offence as well ? Lancashire always
  • Score: 3

7:03pm Mon 14 Jul 14

The Running Man says...

"But when it comes to damaging the environment, it's all dogs' fault is it?"

Never the dog's fault, always the irresponsible owner's fault!
"But when it comes to damaging the environment, it's all dogs' fault is it?" Never the dog's fault, always the irresponsible owner's fault! The Running Man
  • Score: 0

10:39pm Mon 14 Jul 14

renovatedhouserunner says...

The Running Man wrote:
renovatedhouserunner wrote:
I clean up after my dog, it is fully under control. I have been going on that lodge a lot longer than it has been a nature reserve. Birds see my dog as a predator, so they stay out of the way, it's never been a problem until a do-gooder like you makes it a problem.
Get the **** thing on a lead!
Keep on running and jog on
[quote][p][bold]The Running Man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]renovatedhouserunner[/bold] wrote: I clean up after my dog, it is fully under control. I have been going on that lodge a lot longer than it has been a nature reserve. Birds see my dog as a predator, so they stay out of the way, it's never been a problem until a do-gooder like you makes it a problem.[/p][/quote]Get the **** thing on a lead![/p][/quote]Keep on running and jog on renovatedhouserunner
  • Score: 1

12:54am Tue 15 Jul 14

bigbob123 says...

I run a successful dog walking and training business and I roam all over Bolton with dogs.
A dog MUST BE KEPT ON A LEAD if it says so on a sign.
Other than that it is NOT a legal requirement as the dog just needs to be "under control in public places" at all times.
Now you can keep a dog under control without the use of a lead so unless a dog is being a danger to others then you are fine to leave a dog to its own devices.
As for the dog poo situation then if you are to say that dog walkers are a pain due to the dog dirt being all over place then I would suggest you concentrate on getting the culprits caught and fined rather than being so general because I could say all car owners are murderers because a car knocks someone down every few minutes.
I run a successful dog walking and training business and I roam all over Bolton with dogs. A dog MUST BE KEPT ON A LEAD if it says so on a sign. Other than that it is NOT a legal requirement as the dog just needs to be "under control in public places" at all times. Now you can keep a dog under control without the use of a lead so unless a dog is being a danger to others then you are fine to leave a dog to its own devices. As for the dog poo situation then if you are to say that dog walkers are a pain due to the dog dirt being all over place then I would suggest you concentrate on getting the culprits caught and fined rather than being so general because I could say all car owners are murderers because a car knocks someone down every few minutes. bigbob123
  • Score: 2

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