UPDATED: Armed robbery at HSBC bank in Astley Bridge

The suspected getaway car on fire in Back Chorley Old Road South. Picture by Steve Roberts.

The scene of the robbery at HSBC in Astley Bridge

Debris from the getaway car which was used to try to open the cash box in Old Road

Police outside the HSBC bank in Hillview Road

Firefighters tackling the suspected getaway car fire in Back Chorley Old Road South

Firefighters tackling the suspected getaway car fire in Back Chorley Old Road South

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ARMED raiders robbed a security guard before using their car and a house to smash open a cash box.

Two masked-raiders struck just after 11am outside the HSBC bank in Hillview Road, Astley Bridge, using a crowbar to attack a G4S security guard who was holding the cash box on his way into the bank to make a delivery.

The two men then fled the scene in a dark-coloured vehicle - thought to be a black Skoda - but stopped in nearby Old Road when one of them got out of the car.

It is thought he held the cash box next to a wall and the other man repeatedly reversed the car into it in an attempt to smash it open.

Shortly after the raid it was reported that a black car had crashed into a skip near Chorley Old Road and exploded into flames.

Police said the raiders had stolen only a small amount of money.

A spokesman for Greater Manchester Police said: "We were called to Old Road at 11.15am after reports of a car continually reversing into a wall.

"This followed an armed robbery outside the HSBC bank in which a security driver received a cut to his arm."

The driver was checked over by paramedics but was not seriously hurt.

One eyewitness, who did not want to be named, said: "I was sitting in my car with my friend when we saw this car do a a u-turn really aggressively and reverse straight into this house.

"Then it did it again, like three times.

"One of the men got out - he was short and in a black tracksuit.

"He was shouting at the driver to keep reversing into the wall, and he was holding a black and yellow bag.

"Then he got back in the car and they drove off really fast."

A piece of the getaway car was found in Old Road and the police helicopter was launched to hunt for the robbers.

Witnesses reported seeing a black car crash into a skip in Back Chorley Old Road South at about 11.20am.

Michael Rigg, who lives in Chorley Old Road, said: "My neighbour heard the car crash into the skip and I saw this billowing black smoke in the air.

"It definitely smashed into it - it has moved the whole skip and burnt my neighbour's fence down."

Steve Roberts works in Chorley Old Road and ran up to see the scene.

He said: "It seems a real coincidence that a black car was found on fire just after a similar vehicle was involved in the armed robbery."

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11:39am Tue 5 Aug 14

FreedomOfSpeech1945 says...

Inside job
Inside job FreedomOfSpeech1945
  • Score: -25

11:41am Tue 5 Aug 14

Beyond News Forum says...

Police come out in force when it involves money. Corporate police.
Police come out in force when it involves money. Corporate police. Beyond News Forum
  • Score: 5

11:44am Tue 5 Aug 14

Chrome1 says...

Beyond News Forum wrote:
Police come out in force when it involves money. Corporate police.
Yes indeed. Protect the banks as they are such an asset to the well being of society.
[quote][p][bold]Beyond News Forum[/bold] wrote: Police come out in force when it involves money. Corporate police.[/p][/quote]Yes indeed. Protect the banks as they are such an asset to the well being of society. Chrome1
  • Score: 14

11:55am Tue 5 Aug 14

pradagucci says...

This bank has been robbed loads of times
This bank has been robbed loads of times pradagucci
  • Score: -21

12:24pm Tue 5 Aug 14

emptyhead says...

Craig Rotherham is becoming a regular in the BN. Twice quoted as a witness in different stories over three days. The old bill should take him on he knows more about what's going on than they do.
Craig Rotherham is becoming a regular in the BN. Twice quoted as a witness in different stories over three days. The old bill should take him on he knows more about what's going on than they do. emptyhead
  • Score: 26

12:26pm Tue 5 Aug 14

nigella farrage says...

More of a coincidence that HSBC profits are down by 12% (thanks to a multi-billion fine issued by the US due to laundering Mexican drug money!)
More of a coincidence that HSBC profits are down by 12% (thanks to a multi-billion fine issued by the US due to laundering Mexican drug money!) nigella farrage
  • Score: -7

12:43pm Tue 5 Aug 14

cliff4treasurer says...

22% of it belonging to the UK taxman no doubt who will never see any of it!
22% of it belonging to the UK taxman no doubt who will never see any of it! cliff4treasurer
  • Score: 9

12:53pm Tue 5 Aug 14

Cheeseware says...

The article starts of stating 'ARMED raiders are believed to have robbed HSBC' - have they or haven't they? Who believes this? Then it goes on to say 'It is thought that a security guard was robbed' - Who thought this? The police, the reporter, HSBC, the man in the moon? Then THE BOLTON NEWS 'understands the robbers may have been armed' - So after starting off with the headline "ARMED RAIDERS" the BN are now backtracking and now they may (or may not) have been armed. why not finish it off by saying that it is suspected the robbers approached the bank disguised as Mr Blobby although this remains unconfirmed.
The article starts of stating 'ARMED raiders are believed to have robbed HSBC' - have they or haven't they? Who believes this? Then it goes on to say 'It is thought that a security guard was robbed' - Who thought this? The police, the reporter, HSBC, the man in the moon? Then THE BOLTON NEWS 'understands the robbers may have been armed' - So after starting off with the headline "ARMED RAIDERS" the BN are now backtracking and now they may (or may not) have been armed. why not finish it off by saying that it is suspected the robbers approached the bank disguised as Mr Blobby although this remains unconfirmed. Cheeseware
  • Score: -38

1:05pm Tue 5 Aug 14

cliff4treasurer says...

I see the comments section on the HSBC ending there relationship with the charity is closed now that the local MP has added her "please vote for me" support for the charity.
I would just say this ,I have never known a bank turn down the offer of money in an account without good reason.
I would be careful if I was here as she may need to distance herself later
as all maybe revealed?
I see the comments section on the HSBC ending there relationship with the charity is closed now that the local MP has added her "please vote for me" support for the charity. I would just say this ,I have never known a bank turn down the offer of money in an account without good reason. I would be careful if I was here as she may need to distance herself later as all maybe revealed? cliff4treasurer
  • Score: -59

1:10pm Tue 5 Aug 14

Rememberscarborough says...

Some of you lot would make wonderful politicians!! They're experts at answering the question they want asked rather than the ones they are. Likewise a story about armed robbery ends up on the usual muslim theme.

Can't we have a day off and talk about something else because I'm getting extremely bored....
Some of you lot would make wonderful politicians!! They're experts at answering the question they want asked rather than the ones they are. Likewise a story about armed robbery ends up on the usual muslim theme. Can't we have a day off and talk about something else because I'm getting extremely bored.... Rememberscarborough
  • Score: -53

1:38pm Tue 5 Aug 14

Regulatory Man says...

Usual racist know it alls come out to play. I'm amazed they have the time between job hunting, watching Kyle and consuming their super strength Morrisons pop and cheap fags.

You can tell them a mile off by their lack of educational skills and ability to remain on topic.

I wish I wasn't retired and could get a benefits life that gives me internet access, sky TV and all the time in the world to post on BEN every day let alone all the other trimmings.

As for the Inspector Morses on this thread, the least said about them the better.

Best wishes to the Security guard hope they are okay and good luck to the Police trying to catch the low life scum who were responsible.
Usual racist know it alls come out to play. I'm amazed they have the time between job hunting, watching Kyle and consuming their super strength Morrisons pop and cheap fags. You can tell them a mile off by their lack of educational skills and ability to remain on topic. I wish I wasn't retired and could get a benefits life that gives me internet access, sky TV and all the time in the world to post on BEN every day let alone all the other trimmings. As for the Inspector Morses on this thread, the least said about them the better. Best wishes to the Security guard hope they are okay and good luck to the Police trying to catch the low life scum who were responsible. Regulatory Man
  • Score: -39

4:28pm Tue 5 Aug 14

IvanCamposHair says...

Inside the mind of your typical Bolton News commenter:

Someone's robbed HSBC - HSBC have recently stopped a Muslim charity from having accounts with them - excuse to bring the topic around to bashing Muslims! Wayhay!
Inside the mind of your typical Bolton News commenter: Someone's robbed HSBC - HSBC have recently stopped a Muslim charity from having accounts with them - excuse to bring the topic around to bashing Muslims! Wayhay! IvanCamposHair
  • Score: -66

4:33pm Tue 5 Aug 14

The Amazing Shrinking Brain says...

The lines between legitimate concern and blatant racism are now hopelessly blurred, and pedanticism will never be a cover for hatred.

I have my concerns about the effect of organised religion on my own way of life, and also about the tension that lack of integration breeds between communities, but I sure as hell don't want my concerns represented by the EDL, BNP, Britain First or the guy in the white pointy hat pictured protesting against the Astley Bridge mosque.

Back on topic, hope they catch these thieving scumbags and the bloke injured simply doing his job makes a quick recovery.
The lines between legitimate concern and blatant racism are now hopelessly blurred, and pedanticism will never be a cover for hatred. I have my concerns about the effect of organised religion on my own way of life, and also about the tension that lack of integration breeds between communities, but I sure as hell don't want my concerns represented by the EDL, BNP, Britain First or the guy in the white pointy hat pictured protesting against the Astley Bridge mosque. Back on topic, hope they catch these thieving scumbags and the bloke injured simply doing his job makes a quick recovery. The Amazing Shrinking Brain
  • Score: 16

4:42pm Tue 5 Aug 14

IvanCamposHair says...

The Amazing Shrinking Brain wrote:
The lines between legitimate concern and blatant racism are now hopelessly blurred, and pedanticism will never be a cover for hatred.

I have my concerns about the effect of organised religion on my own way of life, and also about the tension that lack of integration breeds between communities, but I sure as hell don't want my concerns represented by the EDL, BNP, Britain First or the guy in the white pointy hat pictured protesting against the Astley Bridge mosque.

Back on topic, hope they catch these thieving scumbags and the bloke injured simply doing his job makes a quick recovery.
Completely agree, I share many people's concerns about a number of religions not least some Islamic cultural practices.

Having a reasoned debate and engaging with each other is impossible in the climate created by the thugs who 'protested' against the mosques.

The important thing to remember is they will never be happy, they picked on blacks, gays and now its the Muslims turn. If they achieved their twisted dream of ridding the UK of Muslims they will find another group to fight with.
[quote][p][bold]The Amazing Shrinking Brain[/bold] wrote: The lines between legitimate concern and blatant racism are now hopelessly blurred, and pedanticism will never be a cover for hatred. I have my concerns about the effect of organised religion on my own way of life, and also about the tension that lack of integration breeds between communities, but I sure as hell don't want my concerns represented by the EDL, BNP, Britain First or the guy in the white pointy hat pictured protesting against the Astley Bridge mosque. Back on topic, hope they catch these thieving scumbags and the bloke injured simply doing his job makes a quick recovery.[/p][/quote]Completely agree, I share many people's concerns about a number of religions not least some Islamic cultural practices. Having a reasoned debate and engaging with each other is impossible in the climate created by the thugs who 'protested' against the mosques. The important thing to remember is they will never be happy, they picked on blacks, gays and now its the Muslims turn. If they achieved their twisted dream of ridding the UK of Muslims they will find another group to fight with. IvanCamposHair
  • Score: -42

4:57pm Tue 5 Aug 14

sallyupsteps says...

IvanCamposHair wrote:
The Amazing Shrinking Brain wrote:
The lines between legitimate concern and blatant racism are now hopelessly blurred, and pedanticism will never be a cover for hatred.

I have my concerns about the effect of organised religion on my own way of life, and also about the tension that lack of integration breeds between communities, but I sure as hell don't want my concerns represented by the EDL, BNP, Britain First or the guy in the white pointy hat pictured protesting against the Astley Bridge mosque.

Back on topic, hope they catch these thieving scumbags and the bloke injured simply doing his job makes a quick recovery.
Completely agree, I share many people's concerns about a number of religions not least some Islamic cultural practices.

Having a reasoned debate and engaging with each other is impossible in the climate created by the thugs who 'protested' against the mosques.

The important thing to remember is they will never be happy, they picked on blacks, gays and now its the Muslims turn. If they achieved their twisted dream of ridding the UK of Muslims they will find another group to fight with.
Lets get real! How many of us have an Asian doctor, dentist, taxi driver. We all live in the same town, together we have a chance of getting out of the mire. We have bad apples in every religion and walk of life, while we argue amongst ourselves the feckless sit back and have a good laugh.
[quote][p][bold]IvanCamposHair[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Amazing Shrinking Brain[/bold] wrote: The lines between legitimate concern and blatant racism are now hopelessly blurred, and pedanticism will never be a cover for hatred. I have my concerns about the effect of organised religion on my own way of life, and also about the tension that lack of integration breeds between communities, but I sure as hell don't want my concerns represented by the EDL, BNP, Britain First or the guy in the white pointy hat pictured protesting against the Astley Bridge mosque. Back on topic, hope they catch these thieving scumbags and the bloke injured simply doing his job makes a quick recovery.[/p][/quote]Completely agree, I share many people's concerns about a number of religions not least some Islamic cultural practices. Having a reasoned debate and engaging with each other is impossible in the climate created by the thugs who 'protested' against the mosques. The important thing to remember is they will never be happy, they picked on blacks, gays and now its the Muslims turn. If they achieved their twisted dream of ridding the UK of Muslims they will find another group to fight with.[/p][/quote]Lets get real! How many of us have an Asian doctor, dentist, taxi driver. We all live in the same town, together we have a chance of getting out of the mire. We have bad apples in every religion and walk of life, while we argue amongst ourselves the feckless sit back and have a good laugh. sallyupsteps
  • Score: -36

5:02pm Tue 5 Aug 14

Mick England says...

IvanCamposHair wrote:
Inside the mind of your typical Bolton News commenter:

Someone's robbed HSBC - HSBC have recently stopped a Muslim charity from having accounts with them - excuse to bring the topic around to bashing Muslims! Wayhay!
Some validity though maybe?
[quote][p][bold]IvanCamposHair[/bold] wrote: Inside the mind of your typical Bolton News commenter: Someone's robbed HSBC - HSBC have recently stopped a Muslim charity from having accounts with them - excuse to bring the topic around to bashing Muslims! Wayhay![/p][/quote]Some validity though maybe? Mick England
  • Score: 12

5:03pm Tue 5 Aug 14

Mick England says...

IvanCamposHair wrote:
Inside the mind of your typical Bolton News commenter:

Someone's robbed HSBC - HSBC have recently stopped a Muslim charity from having accounts with them - excuse to bring the topic around to bashing Muslims! Wayhay!
Some validity though maybe?
[quote][p][bold]IvanCamposHair[/bold] wrote: Inside the mind of your typical Bolton News commenter: Someone's robbed HSBC - HSBC have recently stopped a Muslim charity from having accounts with them - excuse to bring the topic around to bashing Muslims! Wayhay![/p][/quote]Some validity though maybe? Mick England
  • Score: 25

5:11pm Tue 5 Aug 14

StopwiththeBS says...

Mick England wrote:
IvanCamposHair wrote:
Inside the mind of your typical Bolton News commenter:

Someone's robbed HSBC - HSBC have recently stopped a Muslim charity from having accounts with them - excuse to bring the topic around to bashing Muslims! Wayhay!
Some validity though maybe?
No Mick. No validity. If it had 'some' validity Then this would happen:

The person who raped the girl in an alleyway in Bolton the other night is a nasty moron.
Mick England is a nasty moron

Therefore.....
[quote][p][bold]Mick England[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IvanCamposHair[/bold] wrote: Inside the mind of your typical Bolton News commenter: Someone's robbed HSBC - HSBC have recently stopped a Muslim charity from having accounts with them - excuse to bring the topic around to bashing Muslims! Wayhay![/p][/quote]Some validity though maybe?[/p][/quote]No Mick. No validity. If it had 'some' validity Then this would happen: The person who raped the girl in an alleyway in Bolton the other night is a nasty moron. Mick England is a nasty moron Therefore..... StopwiththeBS
  • Score: -15

5:16pm Tue 5 Aug 14

Julian Thorpe says...

Cheeseware wrote:
The article starts of stating 'ARMED raiders are believed to have robbed HSBC' - have they or haven't they? Who believes this? Then it goes on to say 'It is thought that a security guard was robbed' - Who thought this? The police, the reporter, HSBC, the man in the moon? Then THE BOLTON NEWS 'understands the robbers may have been armed' - So after starting off with the headline "ARMED RAIDERS" the BN are now backtracking and now they may (or may not) have been armed. why not finish it off by saying that it is suspected the robbers approached the bank disguised as Mr Blobby although this remains unconfirmed.
Very good Cheeseware. We reported this story very quickly after receiving some unconfirmed reports. As soon as we had confirmed those reports, we updated the story. This is the nature of live news reporting today.
[quote][p][bold]Cheeseware[/bold] wrote: The article starts of stating 'ARMED raiders are believed to have robbed HSBC' - have they or haven't they? Who believes this? Then it goes on to say 'It is thought that a security guard was robbed' - Who thought this? The police, the reporter, HSBC, the man in the moon? Then THE BOLTON NEWS 'understands the robbers may have been armed' - So after starting off with the headline "ARMED RAIDERS" the BN are now backtracking and now they may (or may not) have been armed. why not finish it off by saying that it is suspected the robbers approached the bank disguised as Mr Blobby although this remains unconfirmed.[/p][/quote]Very good Cheeseware. We reported this story very quickly after receiving some unconfirmed reports. As soon as we had confirmed those reports, we updated the story. This is the nature of live news reporting today. Julian Thorpe
  • Score: -52

5:24pm Tue 5 Aug 14

Mick England says...

Julian Thorpe wrote:
Cheeseware wrote:
The article starts of stating 'ARMED raiders are believed to have robbed HSBC' - have they or haven't they? Who believes this? Then it goes on to say 'It is thought that a security guard was robbed' - Who thought this? The police, the reporter, HSBC, the man in the moon? Then THE BOLTON NEWS 'understands the robbers may have been armed' - So after starting off with the headline "ARMED RAIDERS" the BN are now backtracking and now they may (or may not) have been armed. why not finish it off by saying that it is suspected the robbers approached the bank disguised as Mr Blobby although this remains unconfirmed.
Very good Cheeseware. We reported this story very quickly after receiving some unconfirmed reports. As soon as we had confirmed those reports, we updated the story. This is the nature of live news reporting today.
Like you did with the Belmont graffiti story, first it was racist then it changed to anti islamic? It takes you lot a long time to cotton on to the requests of your readers! Has Elaine O'Flynn got to the bottom of the muslim man who flashed his bits on Saturday at the demo, it was reported to police at the time and pictures have been circulated, but still no story from the BN?
[quote][p][bold]Julian Thorpe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cheeseware[/bold] wrote: The article starts of stating 'ARMED raiders are believed to have robbed HSBC' - have they or haven't they? Who believes this? Then it goes on to say 'It is thought that a security guard was robbed' - Who thought this? The police, the reporter, HSBC, the man in the moon? Then THE BOLTON NEWS 'understands the robbers may have been armed' - So after starting off with the headline "ARMED RAIDERS" the BN are now backtracking and now they may (or may not) have been armed. why not finish it off by saying that it is suspected the robbers approached the bank disguised as Mr Blobby although this remains unconfirmed.[/p][/quote]Very good Cheeseware. We reported this story very quickly after receiving some unconfirmed reports. As soon as we had confirmed those reports, we updated the story. This is the nature of live news reporting today.[/p][/quote]Like you did with the Belmont graffiti story, first it was racist then it changed to anti islamic? It takes you lot a long time to cotton on to the requests of your readers! Has Elaine O'Flynn got to the bottom of the muslim man who flashed his bits on Saturday at the demo, it was reported to police at the time and pictures have been circulated, but still no story from the BN? Mick England
  • Score: 51

5:27pm Tue 5 Aug 14

Mick England says...

Stop wasting your time on here Julian and report the NEWS.
Stop wasting your time on here Julian and report the NEWS. Mick England
  • Score: 18

6:15pm Tue 5 Aug 14

nigella farrage says...

Lets get some perspective.

HSBC were recently fined a couple of £billion by the US
HSBC has had its annual profits fall by 12%

Therefore in order to stop the losses and recoup as much as possible, quickly it had dropped customers who actually cost the bank, rather than give to the bank. Unfortunately, in this instance, the Bolton-based charity was one of those 300 accounts because it had no lending facilities and it was taking more off HSBC than the other way round. Lets not forget that 299 other accounts -from customers of various colours, races and religion, were also closed and not just the Bolton-based charity.

Like I say, once in perspective the truth can be found, rather than religious-hatred narrow-minded lies!
Lets get some perspective. HSBC were recently fined a couple of £billion by the US HSBC has had its annual profits fall by 12% Therefore in order to stop the losses and recoup as much as possible, quickly it had dropped customers who actually cost the bank, rather than give to the bank. Unfortunately, in this instance, the Bolton-based charity was one of those 300 accounts because it had no lending facilities and it was taking more off HSBC than the other way round. Lets not forget that 299 other accounts -from customers of various colours, races and religion, were also closed and not just the Bolton-based charity. Like I say, once in perspective the truth can be found, rather than religious-hatred narrow-minded lies! nigella farrage
  • Score: -68

6:23pm Tue 5 Aug 14

TheRightPath says...

Mick England wrote:
Stop wasting your time on here Julian and report the NEWS.
The famous Mick England plastering his hatred towards Muslims once again on this website. Maybe you should change your name to Mick Hates Muslims because your giving the better people of England a bad name.
[quote][p][bold]Mick England[/bold] wrote: Stop wasting your time on here Julian and report the NEWS.[/p][/quote]The famous Mick England plastering his hatred towards Muslims once again on this website. Maybe you should change your name to Mick Hates Muslims because your giving the better people of England a bad name. TheRightPath
  • Score: -57

6:58pm Tue 5 Aug 14

Julian Thorpe says...

Mick England wrote:
Julian Thorpe wrote:
Cheeseware wrote:
The article starts of stating 'ARMED raiders are believed to have robbed HSBC' - have they or haven't they? Who believes this? Then it goes on to say 'It is thought that a security guard was robbed' - Who thought this? The police, the reporter, HSBC, the man in the moon? Then THE BOLTON NEWS 'understands the robbers may have been armed' - So after starting off with the headline "ARMED RAIDERS" the BN are now backtracking and now they may (or may not) have been armed. why not finish it off by saying that it is suspected the robbers approached the bank disguised as Mr Blobby although this remains unconfirmed.
Very good Cheeseware. We reported this story very quickly after receiving some unconfirmed reports. As soon as we had confirmed those reports, we updated the story. This is the nature of live news reporting today.
Like you did with the Belmont graffiti story, first it was racist then it changed to anti islamic? It takes you lot a long time to cotton on to the requests of your readers! Has Elaine O'Flynn got to the bottom of the muslim man who flashed his bits on Saturday at the demo, it was reported to police at the time and pictures have been circulated, but still no story from the BN?
No - the first story said "Racists scrawl anti-Islamic graffiti". The second said "council fail to remove anti-Islamic graffiti". The people who did it are still racist.

We're looking into the alleged "flashing" incident. There have been so many lies and propaganda spread about that day that it's difficult to pin anything down if we didn't see it ourselves.

I really do get bored of reading the same baseless conspiracy theories every day.
[quote][p][bold]Mick England[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Julian Thorpe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cheeseware[/bold] wrote: The article starts of stating 'ARMED raiders are believed to have robbed HSBC' - have they or haven't they? Who believes this? Then it goes on to say 'It is thought that a security guard was robbed' - Who thought this? The police, the reporter, HSBC, the man in the moon? Then THE BOLTON NEWS 'understands the robbers may have been armed' - So after starting off with the headline "ARMED RAIDERS" the BN are now backtracking and now they may (or may not) have been armed. why not finish it off by saying that it is suspected the robbers approached the bank disguised as Mr Blobby although this remains unconfirmed.[/p][/quote]Very good Cheeseware. We reported this story very quickly after receiving some unconfirmed reports. As soon as we had confirmed those reports, we updated the story. This is the nature of live news reporting today.[/p][/quote]Like you did with the Belmont graffiti story, first it was racist then it changed to anti islamic? It takes you lot a long time to cotton on to the requests of your readers! Has Elaine O'Flynn got to the bottom of the muslim man who flashed his bits on Saturday at the demo, it was reported to police at the time and pictures have been circulated, but still no story from the BN?[/p][/quote]No - the first story said "Racists scrawl anti-Islamic graffiti". The second said "council fail to remove anti-Islamic graffiti". The people who did it are still racist. We're looking into the alleged "flashing" incident. There have been so many lies and propaganda spread about that day that it's difficult to pin anything down if we didn't see it ourselves. I really do get bored of reading the same baseless conspiracy theories every day. Julian Thorpe
  • Score: 7

6:59pm Tue 5 Aug 14

Mick England says...

TheRightPath wrote:
Mick England wrote:
Stop wasting your time on here Julian and report the NEWS.
The famous Mick England plastering his hatred towards Muslims once again on this website. Maybe you should change your name to Mick Hates Muslims because your giving the better people of England a bad name.
Ha famous, always wanted to be famous. 😊
[quote][p][bold]TheRightPath[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mick England[/bold] wrote: Stop wasting your time on here Julian and report the NEWS.[/p][/quote]The famous Mick England plastering his hatred towards Muslims once again on this website. Maybe you should change your name to Mick Hates Muslims because your giving the better people of England a bad name.[/p][/quote]Ha famous, always wanted to be famous. 😊 Mick England
  • Score: 1

7:06pm Tue 5 Aug 14

Mick England says...

No - the first story said "Racists scrawl anti-Islamic graffiti". The second said "council fail to remove anti-Islamic graffiti". The people who did it are still racist.
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So Islam is a race in your definition?

We're looking into the alleged "flashing" incident. There have been so many lies and propaganda spread about that day that it's difficult to pin anything down if we didn't see it ourselves.
.
So you admit there was an alleged flashing incident and you're looking into it, but not reporting yet because many lies and propaganda have been spread?

I really do get bored of reading the same baseless conspiracy theories every day.
.
Well report the news then not just segments of it.
No - the first story said "Racists scrawl anti-Islamic graffiti". The second said "council fail to remove anti-Islamic graffiti". The people who did it are still racist. . So Islam is a race in your definition? We're looking into the alleged "flashing" incident. There have been so many lies and propaganda spread about that day that it's difficult to pin anything down if we didn't see it ourselves. . So you admit there was an alleged flashing incident and you're looking into it, but not reporting yet because many lies and propaganda have been spread? I really do get bored of reading the same baseless conspiracy theories every day. . Well report the news then not just segments of it. Mick England
  • Score: -13

7:08pm Tue 5 Aug 14

Snakestail says...

Cash in transit guys know to hand over the money and the guard here did just that. The fact that he sustained a small injury reflects that he did his job but that robbers in the heat of the moment have been know to still attack even when the money is handed over. So well done to the guard and hope you shake this off, you did it right today.

What I don't understand is that the car backed into the box a few times...don't these things come with dye packs that blow up and spray the money with paint? I would have thought a competent robber would take that into consideration and the fact that it was done in broad daylight in a very visible area...ASDA's car park, houses, flats all overlooking it makes for many witnesses. Then to crash into the skip in a back alley some distance from the scene means they were still perhaps jazzed from the robbery and driving too fast down a narrow street. They sound like perhaps it was their first time at trying to rob a cash van. And all that for ONE cash box, those things don't hold much, I was once told maybe 10k max is allowed per box but that could be wrong. So, all that risk for potentially just 10k and with only ONE crowbar used as a weapon, yes it is a very nasty weapon but it doesn't seem sophisticated enough to make me think these were highly experienced armed robbers, why not drive away and open the box somewhere else not drive a few yards away and waste time driving back and forth into it. They had just robbed a CiT van outside of a bank, didn't they think that the Police would not be attending soon?
Cash in transit guys know to hand over the money and the guard here did just that. The fact that he sustained a small injury reflects that he did his job but that robbers in the heat of the moment have been know to still attack even when the money is handed over. So well done to the guard and hope you shake this off, you did it right today. What I don't understand is that the car backed into the box a few times...don't these things come with dye packs that blow up and spray the money with paint? I would have thought a competent robber would take that into consideration and the fact that it was done in broad daylight in a very visible area...ASDA's car park, houses, flats all overlooking it makes for many witnesses. Then to crash into the skip in a back alley some distance from the scene means they were still perhaps jazzed from the robbery and driving too fast down a narrow street. They sound like perhaps it was their first time at trying to rob a cash van. And all that for ONE cash box, those things don't hold much, I was once told maybe 10k max is allowed per box but that could be wrong. So, all that risk for potentially just 10k and with only ONE crowbar used as a weapon, yes it is a very nasty weapon but it doesn't seem sophisticated enough to make me think these were highly experienced armed robbers, why not drive away and open the box somewhere else not drive a few yards away and waste time driving back and forth into it. They had just robbed a CiT van outside of a bank, didn't they think that the Police would not be attending soon? Snakestail
  • Score: 6

7:19pm Tue 5 Aug 14

calvin street says...

Julian Thorpe wrote:
Mick England wrote:
Julian Thorpe wrote:
Cheeseware wrote:
The article starts of stating 'ARMED raiders are believed to have robbed HSBC' - have they or haven't they? Who believes this? Then it goes on to say 'It is thought that a security guard was robbed' - Who thought this? The police, the reporter, HSBC, the man in the moon? Then THE BOLTON NEWS 'understands the robbers may have been armed' - So after starting off with the headline "ARMED RAIDERS" the BN are now backtracking and now they may (or may not) have been armed. why not finish it off by saying that it is suspected the robbers approached the bank disguised as Mr Blobby although this remains unconfirmed.
Very good Cheeseware. We reported this story very quickly after receiving some unconfirmed reports. As soon as we had confirmed those reports, we updated the story. This is the nature of live news reporting today.
Like you did with the Belmont graffiti story, first it was racist then it changed to anti islamic? It takes you lot a long time to cotton on to the requests of your readers! Has Elaine O'Flynn got to the bottom of the muslim man who flashed his bits on Saturday at the demo, it was reported to police at the time and pictures have been circulated, but still no story from the BN?
No - the first story said "Racists scrawl anti-Islamic graffiti". The second said "council fail to remove anti-Islamic graffiti". The people who did it are still racist.

We're looking into the alleged "flashing" incident. There have been so many lies and propaganda spread about that day that it's difficult to pin anything down if we didn't see it ourselves.

I really do get bored of reading the same baseless conspiracy theories every day.
Julia,
When you state lies and propaganda do you mean by your own reporters?
If your so called reporters actually reported THE FACTS maybe people would not bore you so much
[quote][p][bold]Julian Thorpe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mick England[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Julian Thorpe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cheeseware[/bold] wrote: The article starts of stating 'ARMED raiders are believed to have robbed HSBC' - have they or haven't they? Who believes this? Then it goes on to say 'It is thought that a security guard was robbed' - Who thought this? The police, the reporter, HSBC, the man in the moon? Then THE BOLTON NEWS 'understands the robbers may have been armed' - So after starting off with the headline "ARMED RAIDERS" the BN are now backtracking and now they may (or may not) have been armed. why not finish it off by saying that it is suspected the robbers approached the bank disguised as Mr Blobby although this remains unconfirmed.[/p][/quote]Very good Cheeseware. We reported this story very quickly after receiving some unconfirmed reports. As soon as we had confirmed those reports, we updated the story. This is the nature of live news reporting today.[/p][/quote]Like you did with the Belmont graffiti story, first it was racist then it changed to anti islamic? It takes you lot a long time to cotton on to the requests of your readers! Has Elaine O'Flynn got to the bottom of the muslim man who flashed his bits on Saturday at the demo, it was reported to police at the time and pictures have been circulated, but still no story from the BN?[/p][/quote]No - the first story said "Racists scrawl anti-Islamic graffiti". The second said "council fail to remove anti-Islamic graffiti". The people who did it are still racist. We're looking into the alleged "flashing" incident. There have been so many lies and propaganda spread about that day that it's difficult to pin anything down if we didn't see it ourselves. I really do get bored of reading the same baseless conspiracy theories every day.[/p][/quote]Julia, When you state lies and propaganda do you mean by your own reporters? If your so called reporters actually reported THE FACTS maybe people would not bore you so much calvin street
  • Score: -1

7:34pm Tue 5 Aug 14

Percy Thrower says...

Snakestail wrote:
Cash in transit guys know to hand over the money and the guard here did just that. The fact that he sustained a small injury reflects that he did his job but that robbers in the heat of the moment have been know to still attack even when the money is handed over. So well done to the guard and hope you shake this off, you did it right today.

What I don't understand is that the car backed into the box a few times...don't these things come with dye packs that blow up and spray the money with paint? I would have thought a competent robber would take that into consideration and the fact that it was done in broad daylight in a very visible area...ASDA's car park, houses, flats all overlooking it makes for many witnesses. Then to crash into the skip in a back alley some distance from the scene means they were still perhaps jazzed from the robbery and driving too fast down a narrow street. They sound like perhaps it was their first time at trying to rob a cash van. And all that for ONE cash box, those things don't hold much, I was once told maybe 10k max is allowed per box but that could be wrong. So, all that risk for potentially just 10k and with only ONE crowbar used as a weapon, yes it is a very nasty weapon but it doesn't seem sophisticated enough to make me think these were highly experienced armed robbers, why not drive away and open the box somewhere else not drive a few yards away and waste time driving back and forth into it. They had just robbed a CiT van outside of a bank, didn't they think that the Police would not be attending soon?
Maximum is £25,00
[quote][p][bold]Snakestail[/bold] wrote: Cash in transit guys know to hand over the money and the guard here did just that. The fact that he sustained a small injury reflects that he did his job but that robbers in the heat of the moment have been know to still attack even when the money is handed over. So well done to the guard and hope you shake this off, you did it right today. What I don't understand is that the car backed into the box a few times...don't these things come with dye packs that blow up and spray the money with paint? I would have thought a competent robber would take that into consideration and the fact that it was done in broad daylight in a very visible area...ASDA's car park, houses, flats all overlooking it makes for many witnesses. Then to crash into the skip in a back alley some distance from the scene means they were still perhaps jazzed from the robbery and driving too fast down a narrow street. They sound like perhaps it was their first time at trying to rob a cash van. And all that for ONE cash box, those things don't hold much, I was once told maybe 10k max is allowed per box but that could be wrong. So, all that risk for potentially just 10k and with only ONE crowbar used as a weapon, yes it is a very nasty weapon but it doesn't seem sophisticated enough to make me think these were highly experienced armed robbers, why not drive away and open the box somewhere else not drive a few yards away and waste time driving back and forth into it. They had just robbed a CiT van outside of a bank, didn't they think that the Police would not be attending soon?[/p][/quote]Maximum is £25,00 Percy Thrower
  • Score: -1

9:08pm Tue 5 Aug 14

artistpaint says...

Scum bank best avoided
Scum bank best avoided artistpaint
  • Score: -5

10:09pm Tue 5 Aug 14

SSMassive says...

Snakes tail don't who told you that about 10k but having held a senior position in a bank for over 10 years, the average small branch such as Astley Bridge can hold around 130k when the machines are emptied.
Snakes tail don't who told you that about 10k but having held a senior position in a bank for over 10 years, the average small branch such as Astley Bridge can hold around 130k when the machines are emptied. SSMassive
  • Score: 0

11:13pm Tue 5 Aug 14

Tim Burr says...

Mick England wrote:
No - the first story said "Racists scrawl anti-Islamic graffiti". The second said "council fail to remove anti-Islamic graffiti". The people who did it are still racist.
.
So Islam is a race in your definition?

We're looking into the alleged "flashing" incident. There have been so many lies and propaganda spread about that day that it's difficult to pin anything down if we didn't see it ourselves.
.
So you admit there was an alleged flashing incident and you're looking into it, but not reporting yet because many lies and propaganda have been spread?

I really do get bored of reading the same baseless conspiracy theories every day.
.
Well report the news then not just segments of it.
How do you 'admit' an alleged incident by another? Do you live in Thomas world?
[quote][p][bold]Mick England[/bold] wrote: No - the first story said "Racists scrawl anti-Islamic graffiti". The second said "council fail to remove anti-Islamic graffiti". The people who did it are still racist. . So Islam is a race in your definition? We're looking into the alleged "flashing" incident. There have been so many lies and propaganda spread about that day that it's difficult to pin anything down if we didn't see it ourselves. . So you admit there was an alleged flashing incident and you're looking into it, but not reporting yet because many lies and propaganda have been spread? I really do get bored of reading the same baseless conspiracy theories every day. . Well report the news then not just segments of it.[/p][/quote]How do you 'admit' an alleged incident by another? Do you live in Thomas world? Tim Burr
  • Score: -3

11:44pm Tue 5 Aug 14

Beyond News Forum says...

Chrome1 wrote:
Beyond News Forum wrote:
Police come out in force when it involves money. Corporate police.
Yes indeed. Protect the banks as they are such an asset to the well being of society.
No they are NOT... they should have been allowed to fail years ago. Public money should have been used to raise those elitists to the ground and bail out the people. The cash from the closures of failed bank assets should have been used to set up banks on a scale bigger than that of the 'Pots and Pans' revolution in Iceland.

If people who had been shafted by the banks in this country had been given a clean break we would have seen a huge recovery, bigger GDP and people would not be struggling now... luckily I am not struggling, but many are even with two jobs... it is those people who are important to our country, and they get shafted left, right and centre.

I have no sympathy with banks, their corporate and government pals and the vultures in the energy companies and the oil industry.
[quote][p][bold]Chrome1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Beyond News Forum[/bold] wrote: Police come out in force when it involves money. Corporate police.[/p][/quote]Yes indeed. Protect the banks as they are such an asset to the well being of society.[/p][/quote]No they are NOT... they should have been allowed to fail years ago. Public money should have been used to raise those elitists to the ground and bail out the people. The cash from the closures of failed bank assets should have been used to set up banks on a scale bigger than that of the 'Pots and Pans' revolution in Iceland. If people who had been shafted by the banks in this country had been given a clean break we would have seen a huge recovery, bigger GDP and people would not be struggling now... luckily I am not struggling, but many are even with two jobs... it is those people who are important to our country, and they get shafted left, right and centre. I have no sympathy with banks, their corporate and government pals and the vultures in the energy companies and the oil industry. Beyond News Forum
  • Score: 5

12:24am Wed 6 Aug 14

FreedomOfSpeech1945 says...

Why was my comment deleted earlier? - HSBC closes dodgy Muslim accounts. HSBC get's robbed. Coincidence?
Why was my comment deleted earlier? - HSBC closes dodgy Muslim accounts. HSBC get's robbed. Coincidence? FreedomOfSpeech1945
  • Score: -4

12:33am Wed 6 Aug 14

Tim Burr says...

FreedomOfSpeech1945 wrote:
Why was my comment deleted earlier? - HSBC closes dodgy Muslim accounts. HSBC get's robbed. Coincidence?
Try Conspiracy theories and falsehoods.
[quote][p][bold]FreedomOfSpeech1945[/bold] wrote: Why was my comment deleted earlier? - HSBC closes dodgy Muslim accounts. HSBC get's robbed. Coincidence?[/p][/quote]Try Conspiracy theories and falsehoods. Tim Burr
  • Score: 0

6:44am Wed 6 Aug 14

Snakestail says...

SSMassive wrote:
Snakes tail don't who told you that about 10k but having held a senior position in a bank for over 10 years, the average small branch such as Astley Bridge can hold around 130k when the machines are emptied.
I meant per box and as Percy Thrower added, the max per box is 25k
[quote][p][bold]SSMassive[/bold] wrote: Snakes tail don't who told you that about 10k but having held a senior position in a bank for over 10 years, the average small branch such as Astley Bridge can hold around 130k when the machines are emptied.[/p][/quote]I meant per box and as Percy Thrower added, the max per box is 25k Snakestail
  • Score: -1

8:52am Wed 6 Aug 14

nigella farrage says...

FreedomofSpeech,

They did not close dodgy Muslim accounts. HSBC have closed 300 accounts, so far, whose customer base is of varying colours, races and religions. The fact they have been closed is because the accounts are not making money for the Bank and in facts is costing the bank.

Barclays did the same procedure about 5 years ago and RBS review accounts on an annual basis.

If the account was dodgy then, by law, HSBC would have to report it - as they haven't then either HSBC is liable to a cover up in which case they would lose their banking licence or there is absolutely nothing wrong with the account.

Therefore instead of trying to cook up various Myuslim conspiracy theories (thus showing your hatred for the religion) why not learna nd read the facts!!!
FreedomofSpeech, They did not close dodgy Muslim accounts. HSBC have closed 300 accounts, so far, whose customer base is of varying colours, races and religions. The fact they have been closed is because the accounts are not making money for the Bank and in facts is costing the bank. Barclays did the same procedure about 5 years ago and RBS review accounts on an annual basis. If the account was dodgy then, by law, HSBC would have to report it - as they haven't then either HSBC is liable to a cover up in which case they would lose their banking licence or there is absolutely nothing wrong with the account. Therefore instead of trying to cook up various Myuslim conspiracy theories (thus showing your hatred for the religion) why not learna nd read the facts!!! nigella farrage
  • Score: 1

10:50am Wed 6 Aug 14

SSMassive says...

There are some complete retards on this forum "they should have been allowed to fail years ago taking public money" and on they go. HSBC and Standard Chartered did not need bailing out as they were not in trouble. A little known fact, not publicised, by HSBC, on the weekend that Lehman Brothers went bust and RBS and LLoyds were taken into public ownership HSBC loaned the tax payer money to prop up the financial system. Without that help the entire banking system may have gone down the plug hole. Had that happened we would have been transported back to the 17th century.
The moronic statements on this forum are staggering.
There are some complete retards on this forum "they should have been allowed to fail years ago taking public money" and on they go. HSBC and Standard Chartered did not need bailing out as they were not in trouble. A little known fact, not publicised, by HSBC, on the weekend that Lehman Brothers went bust and RBS and LLoyds were taken into public ownership HSBC loaned the tax payer money to prop up the financial system. Without that help the entire banking system may have gone down the plug hole. Had that happened we would have been transported back to the 17th century. The moronic statements on this forum are staggering. SSMassive
  • Score: 10

11:32am Wed 6 Aug 14

FreedomOfSpeech1945 says...

nigella farrage wrote:
FreedomofSpeech,

They did not close dodgy Muslim accounts. HSBC have closed 300 accounts, so far, whose customer base is of varying colours, races and religions. The fact they have been closed is because the accounts are not making money for the Bank and in facts is costing the bank.

Barclays did the same procedure about 5 years ago and RBS review accounts on an annual basis.

If the account was dodgy then, by law, HSBC would have to report it - as they haven't then either HSBC is liable to a cover up in which case they would lose their banking licence or there is absolutely nothing wrong with the account.

Therefore instead of trying to cook up various Myuslim conspiracy theories (thus showing your hatred for the religion) why not learna nd read the facts!!!
Can you actually spell?
[quote][p][bold]nigella farrage[/bold] wrote: FreedomofSpeech, They did not close dodgy Muslim accounts. HSBC have closed 300 accounts, so far, whose customer base is of varying colours, races and religions. The fact they have been closed is because the accounts are not making money for the Bank and in facts is costing the bank. Barclays did the same procedure about 5 years ago and RBS review accounts on an annual basis. If the account was dodgy then, by law, HSBC would have to report it - as they haven't then either HSBC is liable to a cover up in which case they would lose their banking licence or there is absolutely nothing wrong with the account. Therefore instead of trying to cook up various Myuslim conspiracy theories (thus showing your hatred for the religion) why not learna nd read the facts!!![/p][/quote]Can you actually spell? FreedomOfSpeech1945
  • Score: 0

1:52pm Wed 6 Aug 14

united99 says...

FreedomOfSpeech1945 wrote:
Why was my comment deleted earlier? - HSBC closes dodgy Muslim accounts. HSBC get's robbed. Coincidence?
Because you talk a load of tosh....
[quote][p][bold]FreedomOfSpeech1945[/bold] wrote: Why was my comment deleted earlier? - HSBC closes dodgy Muslim accounts. HSBC get's robbed. Coincidence?[/p][/quote]Because you talk a load of tosh.... united99
  • Score: 0

2:57pm Wed 6 Aug 14

SSMassive says...

This guy is an embarrassment to all whether white, Asian, Muslim or pink with yellow spots. However, as the name suggests, in this country we are free to express our opinions provided the comments don't break the law
This guy is an embarrassment to all whether white, Asian, Muslim or pink with yellow spots. However, as the name suggests, in this country we are free to express our opinions provided the comments don't break the law SSMassive
  • Score: 1

10:05am Sat 9 Aug 14

pradagucci says...

Mick England wrote:
Julian Thorpe wrote:
Cheeseware wrote:
The article starts of stating 'ARMED raiders are believed to have robbed HSBC' - have they or haven't they? Who believes this? Then it goes on to say 'It is thought that a security guard was robbed' - Who thought this? The police, the reporter, HSBC, the man in the moon? Then THE BOLTON NEWS 'understands the robbers may have been armed' - So after starting off with the headline "ARMED RAIDERS" the BN are now backtracking and now they may (or may not) have been armed. why not finish it off by saying that it is suspected the robbers approached the bank disguised as Mr Blobby although this remains unconfirmed.
Very good Cheeseware. We reported this story very quickly after receiving some unconfirmed reports. As soon as we had confirmed those reports, we updated the story. This is the nature of live news reporting today.
Like you did with the Belmont graffiti story, first it was racist then it changed to anti islamic? It takes you lot a long time to cotton on to the requests of your readers! Has Elaine O'Flynn got to the bottom of the muslim man who flashed his bits on Saturday at the demo, it was reported to police at the time and pictures have been circulated, but still no story from the BN?
Prove it. It's a fib like the England flag burning.
[quote][p][bold]Mick England[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Julian Thorpe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cheeseware[/bold] wrote: The article starts of stating 'ARMED raiders are believed to have robbed HSBC' - have they or haven't they? Who believes this? Then it goes on to say 'It is thought that a security guard was robbed' - Who thought this? The police, the reporter, HSBC, the man in the moon? Then THE BOLTON NEWS 'understands the robbers may have been armed' - So after starting off with the headline "ARMED RAIDERS" the BN are now backtracking and now they may (or may not) have been armed. why not finish it off by saying that it is suspected the robbers approached the bank disguised as Mr Blobby although this remains unconfirmed.[/p][/quote]Very good Cheeseware. We reported this story very quickly after receiving some unconfirmed reports. As soon as we had confirmed those reports, we updated the story. This is the nature of live news reporting today.[/p][/quote]Like you did with the Belmont graffiti story, first it was racist then it changed to anti islamic? It takes you lot a long time to cotton on to the requests of your readers! Has Elaine O'Flynn got to the bottom of the muslim man who flashed his bits on Saturday at the demo, it was reported to police at the time and pictures have been circulated, but still no story from the BN?[/p][/quote]Prove it. It's a fib like the England flag burning. pradagucci
  • Score: 0

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