Morrisons to open on site of former Greenwood Arms in Horwich

A Morrisons store will be built on the site of the fire-damaged former Greenwood Arms pub

A Morrisons store will be built on the site of the fire-damaged former Greenwood Arms pub

First published in News The Bolton News: Photograph of the Author by , reporter

A Morrisons store is to open on the site of the former Greenwood Arms pub in Horwich.

The Morrisons M Local shop will open at the beginning of next year and will create 20 jobs for local people, says the retail giant.

The Greenwood Arms, in Chorley New Road, has been derelict since it closed in 2011.

The community launched a campaign to save the landmark building.

The site has been the subject of several failed planning applications in the past for permission to build retail units and apartments, as well as a housing development on the pub’s former bowling green at the rear.

In 2012, after Bolton Council’s planning committee rejected applications for retail units and flats, as well as refusing plans for 13 houses on the bowling green land, an appeal for both decisions to be reversed was upheld by a government planning inspector, despite continued protests from camp- aigners.

The building was targeted in suspected arson attacks in 2012 and has remained in a damaged state since.

But a renewed application was submitted by developers Barnfield Real Estate Partnership Ltd for minor changes to the plans.

Morrisons has now confirmed an M Local store will be opening on the site next year.

Laura Stubbs from Morrisons said: “We’re excited to be bringing a Morrisons M local to Horwich and are proud to be creating 20 new jobs for local people.

“Fresh food will be at the heart of what we’ll sell and our team will work hard to make the store a positive addition in the Horwich community.”

She also confirmed that Morrisons had already been granted a liquor licence to sell beers, wines and spirits on the site.

Horwich Town Council leader Kevin McKeon said: “It is a great regret to many, including myself, that the Greenwood could not stay open as a pub, but we have to accept reality.

“It has been an eyesore for some time and so it is a relief that something is going to happen.

“I am very happy Morrisons will be opening on the site and even happier that they will be providing jobs for local people – they have also consulted local councillors.

“This is a happy outcome to an unfortunate situation.”

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10:46am Wed 13 Aug 14

heaton watcher says...

Good news at long last!
Good news at long last! heaton watcher
  • Score: 18

11:20am Wed 13 Aug 14

Brumas says...

In some ways it is good news, because of the jobs it will create which will be offset with the smaller local businesses that will close near bye. I have known about Mirrison's opening this site for months. But please do not let us kid ourselves that they care about Horwich or the Greenwood area. All those months ago when I found out about the proposed development. I phoned Morrison's estate's dept., who denied all knowledge of the development when I asked them if they could retain the stone façade of the building, by incorporating it into the store. I was at the time told quite bluntly that they were not going to open any store in Horwich. Their motives are all profit, having no thougts for the heritage, why should they not incorporate the facade? Just like Tesco have done in Adlington with the Ridgeway Pub, I know Horwich Council want them to do so, so why not.
In some ways it is good news, because of the jobs it will create which will be offset with the smaller local businesses that will close near bye. I have known about Mirrison's opening this site for months. But please do not let us kid ourselves that they care about Horwich or the Greenwood area. All those months ago when I found out about the proposed development. I phoned Morrison's estate's dept., who denied all knowledge of the development when I asked them if they could retain the stone façade of the building, by incorporating it into the store. I was at the time told quite bluntly that they were not going to open any store in Horwich. Their motives are all profit, having no thougts for the heritage, why should they not incorporate the facade? Just like Tesco have done in Adlington with the Ridgeway Pub, I know Horwich Council want them to do so, so why not. Brumas
  • Score: 8

12:40pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Don Kiddick says...

Ummm - can us well-heeled middle classes not have a Lidl instead???
Ummm - can us well-heeled middle classes not have a Lidl instead??? Don Kiddick
  • Score: 6

1:07pm Wed 13 Aug 14

itsnotthatbad says...

Morrisons is dying out anyway like somerfields before it. No one will shop there. They'll soon be doing a netto and selling it off to asda...
Morrisons is dying out anyway like somerfields before it. No one will shop there. They'll soon be doing a netto and selling it off to asda... itsnotthatbad
  • Score: -7

1:16pm Wed 13 Aug 14

marco999 says...

Pretty predictable really but it won't affect me because I'm not a fan of Morrisons and never use their stores. My only concern is the privately owned 'mini mart' selling groceries and booze on the next block, they have struggled hard to get their business up and running but will face impossible competition with Morrisons and more than likely have to close. There is Middlebrook with Tesco and Asda just a short distance away and Aldi at the other end of Chorley New road. When will this relentless building of supermarkets end? And how many more stores do we really need?
Pretty predictable really but it won't affect me because I'm not a fan of Morrisons and never use their stores. My only concern is the privately owned 'mini mart' selling groceries and booze on the next block, they have struggled hard to get their business up and running but will face impossible competition with Morrisons and more than likely have to close. There is Middlebrook with Tesco and Asda just a short distance away and Aldi at the other end of Chorley New road. When will this relentless building of supermarkets end? And how many more stores do we really need? marco999
  • Score: 6

1:50pm Wed 13 Aug 14

JJKBolton says...

"She also confirmed that Morrisons had already been granted a liquor licence to sell beers, wines and spirits on the site".

---- With regards to Morrisons having a liquor licence - if that's the case why not open up as a pub, Oh I get it, thousands of people have handed a petition into the council to have a supermarket opened and definitely NOT a pub, you don't fool me for a minute?, yes come to think of it I remember huge crowds of people protesting AGAINST another pub???

Horwich Town Council leader Kevin McKeon said, "

“It is a great regret to many, including myself, that the Greenwood could not stay open as a pub, but we have to accept reality".

--- Perhaps Kevin McKeon could refresh the collective memory of the good people of Horwich and remind us WHY --- "the Greenwood could not stay open as a pub"???

and NO, Horwich Town Council leader I DO NOT accept your particular version of whatever it is YOU have decided is good for ME or WE !!!!!!!! please feel free to believe what YOU like but please don't think you can think for me as well, delusions of grandeur perhaps ???.
"She also confirmed that Morrisons had already been granted a liquor licence to sell beers, wines and spirits on the site". ---- With regards to Morrisons having a liquor licence - if that's the case why not open up as a pub, Oh I get it, thousands of people have handed a petition into the council to have a supermarket opened and definitely NOT a pub, you don't fool me for a minute?, yes come to think of it I remember huge crowds of people protesting AGAINST another pub??? Horwich Town Council leader Kevin McKeon said, " “It is a great regret to many, including myself, that the Greenwood could not stay open as a pub, but we have to accept reality". --- Perhaps Kevin McKeon could refresh the collective memory of the good people of Horwich and remind us WHY --- "the Greenwood could not stay open as a pub"??? and NO, Horwich Town Council leader I DO NOT accept your particular version of whatever it is YOU have decided is good for ME or WE !!!!!!!! please feel free to believe what YOU like but please don't think you can think for me as well, delusions of grandeur perhaps ???. JJKBolton
  • Score: -4

2:41pm Wed 13 Aug 14

filthy6 says...

The Greenwood could not stay open because people didn't go in?
The Greenwood could not stay open because people didn't go in? filthy6
  • Score: 19

2:49pm Wed 13 Aug 14

keithyno.1 says...

Horwich Town Council leader Kevin McKeon said: “It is a great regret to many, including myself, that the Greenwood could not stay open as a pub, but we have to accept reality."

Well, Councillor McKeon, it's a shame that you and your mates on both Horwich Town Council and Bolton Council couldn't have accepted reality at least 2 years ago so that the people of Horwich wouldn't have had to put up with this dilapidated, vandalised burnt-out disgrace of a building and allowed plans to move ahead, instead of blocking them at every turn, so that it could be replaced by..well, ANYTHING would have been better than what we've had to endure with THIS eye-sore.

Talk about a blot on the landscape...imagine, for the last 2 years visitors to Horwich would come off the M61 at Junction 6, turn left at the Beehive onto Chorley New Road and immediately be confronted by this monstrosity. Well first impressions count, and you couldn't blame any visitors (on business, pleasure or whatever) for thinking they'd arrived in Gaza by mistake and turning around straight away and escaping back down the M61.

And as for JJKBolton STILL banging on about the Greenwood staying open as a pub (see above), you're even more out of touch with reality than Clr McKeon and his mates. Pubs are dying all over Bolton, Greater Manchester, the North West, THE UK!!! It's a fact of life, so deal with it and get used to it!!

Better still, why don't you fully support with your custom the new Farnells Cafe & Bar which has opened a few yards opposite from the bomb site which is The Greenwood? Here is one man that, instead of wailing and moaning about the decline of the pub trade, has bravely tackled the problem head-on and come up with an alternative for the 21st century. And the best of luck to him and his new business!!
Horwich Town Council leader Kevin McKeon said: “It is a great regret to many, including myself, that the Greenwood could not stay open as a pub, but we have to accept reality." Well, Councillor McKeon, it's a shame that you and your mates on both Horwich Town Council and Bolton Council couldn't have accepted reality at least 2 years ago so that the people of Horwich wouldn't have had to put up with this dilapidated, vandalised burnt-out disgrace of a building and allowed plans to move ahead, instead of blocking them at every turn, so that it could be replaced by..well, ANYTHING would have been better than what we've had to endure with THIS eye-sore. Talk about a blot on the landscape...imagine, for the last 2 years visitors to Horwich would come off the M61 at Junction 6, turn left at the Beehive onto Chorley New Road and immediately be confronted by this monstrosity. Well first impressions count, and you couldn't blame any visitors (on business, pleasure or whatever) for thinking they'd arrived in Gaza by mistake and turning around straight away and escaping back down the M61. And as for JJKBolton STILL banging on about the Greenwood staying open as a pub (see above), you're even more out of touch with reality than Clr McKeon and his mates. Pubs are dying all over Bolton, Greater Manchester, the North West, THE UK!!! It's a fact of life, so deal with it and get used to it!! Better still, why don't you fully support with your custom the new Farnells Cafe & Bar which has opened a few yards opposite from the bomb site which is The Greenwood? Here is one man that, instead of wailing and moaning about the decline of the pub trade, has bravely tackled the problem head-on and come up with an alternative for the 21st century. And the best of luck to him and his new business!! keithyno.1
  • Score: 12

3:42pm Wed 13 Aug 14

dibzbomb says...

Hurrah, I like Morrisons, one of the few supermarkets not to be implicated in the horsemeat scandal because they have proper butchers.
Hurrah, I like Morrisons, one of the few supermarkets not to be implicated in the horsemeat scandal because they have proper butchers. dibzbomb
  • Score: 10

5:25pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Hong Kong Fui says...

These guys are not stupid (Morrison’s)... They anticipate rapid growth in Horwich and have strategically placed a sizeable store smack bang in the middle. Horwich will more than lightly grow by an additional 10,000 people in the next decade with all the house building that has been earmarked for the area... Check out BMC’s Draft Allocation Plan for Horwich... 3,500 + homes to be build.
These guys are not stupid (Morrison’s)... They anticipate rapid growth in Horwich and have strategically placed a sizeable store smack bang in the middle. Horwich will more than lightly grow by an additional 10,000 people in the next decade with all the house building that has been earmarked for the area... Check out BMC’s Draft Allocation Plan for Horwich... 3,500 + homes to be build. Hong Kong Fui
  • Score: 17

6:45pm Wed 13 Aug 14

bwfc0210 says...

marco999 wrote:
Pretty predictable really but it won't affect me because I'm not a fan of Morrisons and never use their stores. My only concern is the privately owned 'mini mart' selling groceries and booze on the next block, they have struggled hard to get their business up and running but will face impossible competition with Morrisons and more than likely have to close. There is Middlebrook with Tesco and Asda just a short distance away and Aldi at the other end of Chorley New road. When will this relentless building of supermarkets end? And how many more stores do we really need?
Why only concerned about the mini mart on the next block? What about the off licence right next door? They've upgraded and extended in the hope of keeping going but I bet that's unlikely now.
[quote][p][bold]marco999[/bold] wrote: Pretty predictable really but it won't affect me because I'm not a fan of Morrisons and never use their stores. My only concern is the privately owned 'mini mart' selling groceries and booze on the next block, they have struggled hard to get their business up and running but will face impossible competition with Morrisons and more than likely have to close. There is Middlebrook with Tesco and Asda just a short distance away and Aldi at the other end of Chorley New road. When will this relentless building of supermarkets end? And how many more stores do we really need?[/p][/quote]Why only concerned about the mini mart on the next block? What about the off licence right next door? They've upgraded and extended in the hope of keeping going but I bet that's unlikely now. bwfc0210
  • Score: 5

9:32pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Brumas says...

Just as an aside about the Greenwood, I knew the last landlord of the pub (Not the Owner) who told me that own deliberately stopped them doing things to bring trade into the pub. Which included selling food, so who knows what would have happened.
Besides which, Wetherspoon's wanted to buy the pub but yet again the greedy owner would not sell, even at an over the top price, in order to achieve what he has now done, with a bit of arson thrown in.
Just as an aside about the Greenwood, I knew the last landlord of the pub (Not the Owner) who told me that own deliberately stopped them doing things to bring trade into the pub. Which included selling food, so who knows what would have happened. Besides which, Wetherspoon's wanted to buy the pub but yet again the greedy owner would not sell, even at an over the top price, in order to achieve what he has now done, with a bit of arson thrown in. Brumas
  • Score: 2

1:54am Thu 14 Aug 14

wsw69 says...

itsnotthatbad wrote:
Morrisons is dying out anyway like somerfields before it. No one will shop there. They'll soon be doing a netto and selling it off to asda...
Yet another 'big name' corner shop being erected which will damage the small independent local retailers. Morrisons spout their corporate bull5h1t like all other big outfits in trying to flannel the locals in to thinking they are doing it for the local community.

Morrisons, as a private enterprise, is solely interested in keeping shareholders, the board of directors and their profits satisfied and as high as possible. All three of those criteria are their number one concern.

Morrisons haven't moved with the times like the other big name supermarkets.

They are approximately 12 years behind the home delivery, and the online shopping services. Playing catch-up is going to prove costly and almost impossible.

Snooze and you loose, and Morrisons have proven this 100%.
[quote][p][bold]itsnotthatbad[/bold] wrote: Morrisons is dying out anyway like somerfields before it. No one will shop there. They'll soon be doing a netto and selling it off to asda...[/p][/quote]Yet another 'big name' corner shop being erected which will damage the small independent local retailers. Morrisons spout their corporate bull5h1t like all other big outfits in trying to flannel the locals in to thinking they are doing it for the local community. Morrisons, as a private enterprise, is solely interested in keeping shareholders, the board of directors and their profits satisfied and as high as possible. All three of those criteria are their number one concern. Morrisons haven't moved with the times like the other big name supermarkets. They are approximately 12 years behind the home delivery, and the online shopping services. Playing catch-up is going to prove costly and almost impossible. Snooze and you loose, and Morrisons have proven this 100%. wsw69
  • Score: 4

10:46pm Fri 22 Aug 14

boydell says...

I hope that this Morrissons will not be one of those convenient stores like Sainsburys in Horwich. They charge the earth compared with the prices that are being charged in the big Sainsburys store in Bolton.
Years ago Horwich used to have a pub on every corner, now we have a supermarket on every corner!! Iceland-Aldi- Sainsburys- Nisa - Co-op Tesco-Asda and of course not forgetting our very own pound shops. The only one we haven't got so far is Lidl. I suppose they could always build one at the Loco works.
I hope that this Morrissons will not be one of those convenient stores like Sainsburys in Horwich. They charge the earth compared with the prices that are being charged in the big Sainsburys store in Bolton. Years ago Horwich used to have a pub on every corner, now we have a supermarket on every corner!! Iceland-Aldi- Sainsburys- Nisa - Co-op Tesco-Asda and of course not forgetting our very own pound shops. The only one we haven't got so far is Lidl. I suppose they could always build one at the Loco works. boydell
  • Score: 3

11:16am Thu 4 Sep 14

Horwich Resident says...

I am very relieved that finally something is happening with this eyesore. I live nearby, and it is embarrasing when people come to visit and depressing to walk past. It's clearly not going to be a pub again, and as someone commented, an independent cafe bar (Farnells) has opened opposite if people really want a drink nearby. Yes it will unfortunately probably impact the local shops, but it seems some people will object to ANY change that isn't a new pub - housing or shops, what else is it going to be? We have to deal with the reality of the situation - it is going to be sold, and bought by, a company that wants to make a profit, no one else can afford the site. Far better that it becomes a small supermarket or new houses or ANYTHING rather than remaining as an eyesore as it has been for years now. It was not just the councillors holding it up - there were also members of the public protesting that it should remain as a pub and nothing else. It's sad but profit making is the reality with businesses, and change happens - we have to learn to deal with it.
I am very relieved that finally something is happening with this eyesore. I live nearby, and it is embarrasing when people come to visit and depressing to walk past. It's clearly not going to be a pub again, and as someone commented, an independent cafe bar (Farnells) has opened opposite if people really want a drink nearby. Yes it will unfortunately probably impact the local shops, but it seems some people will object to ANY change that isn't a new pub - housing or shops, what else is it going to be? We have to deal with the reality of the situation - it is going to be sold, and bought by, a company that wants to make a profit, no one else can afford the site. Far better that it becomes a small supermarket or new houses or ANYTHING rather than remaining as an eyesore as it has been for years now. It was not just the councillors holding it up - there were also members of the public protesting that it should remain as a pub and nothing else. It's sad but profit making is the reality with businesses, and change happens - we have to learn to deal with it. Horwich Resident
  • Score: 0

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