Warning as Bolton population predicted to hit 300,000 in 20 years

A busy Bolton street. Health bosses say the town's increasing population will put a strain on services.

A busy Bolton street. Health bosses say the town's increasing population will put a strain on services.

First published in News The Bolton News: Photograph of the Author by , health reporter

THE population of Bolton will top 300,000 in the next 20 years — placing a greater strain on cash-strapped health and social care services.

The current number of Bolton residents stands at 279,000 but this is set to increase by 33,480 — 12 per cent — by 2035.

People over the age of 65 are the fastest expanding group with a predicted growth from 44,700 now to 61,400 in 2030 — an increase of 37 per cent.

The number of black and minority ethic residents in Bolton is also on the rise, and increased from 12.8 per cent of the population in 2001 to 20.6 per cent in 2011.

Older residents are more likely to have long-term health problems, such as diabetes, and often need extra support from the NHS and the council.

Health chiefs say they are planning ahead to ensure they can provide services for the burgeoning population.

Linda Thomas, deputy leader of Bolton Council, added: “We have been aware that the number of people over 65 is expanding for some time.

“People’s health is getting better and people are living longer. That’s why we have been doing the integrated health and social care work.

“We need to keep older people out of hospital and living healthier lives in their own homes.


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“The real difficulty is that the NHS is not getting any extra money. We are expected to deliver integration without extra funds. Really the government should have given us a transition fund.”

A new “integrated health and social care system” is in the process of being rolled out across Bolton.

It will see the council pool resources with the hospital, health commissioners, mental and healthcare services to provide health and social care “closer to home”.

The new system is designed to target people most likely to be admitted to hospital by treating those with long-term health problems earlier.

Dr Wirin Bhatiani, chair of NHS Bolton Clinical Commissioning Group, said: “We will see Bolton’s population increase over the coming decades, through a combination of people living longer, a higher birth rate, and immigration.

“This change has been taken into account in a new five-year strategic plan for the Bolton health economy.

"NHS Bolton Clinical Commissioning Group, together with local partners, has built this plan from our local understanding of health needs for the population of Bolton now and in the coming years.

"Any potential pressure or additional demand on services has been anticipated and will be managed.”

A council spokesman added: “Bolton is no different to other places in the country in that more people are living for longer.

“While many older people will lead active and healthy lives, we are aware that there are increased risks of poor health as age increases.

“We are aware that this will have an impact on services and we are already committed to working with our partners in identifying health issues at an early stage.”

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6:29am Wed 20 Aug 14

Hectoriva says...

Well I think we can thank the government for this, unrestricted immigration, benefits handed out to families who breed beyond their means and an unwillingness to even admit there is a problem! VOTE UKIP!
Well I think we can thank the government for this, unrestricted immigration, benefits handed out to families who breed beyond their means and an unwillingness to even admit there is a problem! VOTE UKIP! Hectoriva
  • Score: 184

7:55am Wed 20 Aug 14

themoaner68 says...

Why have the BN used a photo from the food festival,and called it a busy street??? Yes, say its a busy street during the food festival. And stop making out the streets are full to the brim. Have you seen the town center recently?? Its like a ghost town.. Cmon BN.. Sort yourself out!!
Why have the BN used a photo from the food festival,and called it a busy street??? Yes, say its a busy street during the food festival. And stop making out the streets are full to the brim. Have you seen the town center recently?? Its like a ghost town.. Cmon BN.. Sort yourself out!! themoaner68
  • Score: 90

8:09am Wed 20 Aug 14

leighton1982 says...

I hope my kids grow up with a decent education and **** off far away from here. I love bolton but the council has ruined the place.
I hope my kids grow up with a decent education and **** off far away from here. I love bolton but the council has ruined the place. leighton1982
  • Score: 118

8:16am Wed 20 Aug 14

Terry McC says...

ethnic residents in Bolton is also on the rise, and increased from 12.8 per cent of the population in 2001 to 20.6 per cent in 2011. let me guess the reason for the increase oh hang on no point
ethnic residents in Bolton is also on the rise, and increased from 12.8 per cent of the population in 2001 to 20.6 per cent in 2011. let me guess the reason for the increase oh hang on no point Terry McC
  • Score: 73

8:18am Wed 20 Aug 14

Terry McC says...

People’s health is getting better and people are living longer ime shure they reported this week we were a third world town
People’s health is getting better and people are living longer ime shure they reported this week we were a third world town Terry McC
  • Score: 51

8:29am Wed 20 Aug 14

marco999 says...

If Bolton continues to decline at the same rate it has done during previous years then the next 20 years will see it transformed into something that resembles a third world ghetto.
If Bolton continues to decline at the same rate it has done during previous years then the next 20 years will see it transformed into something that resembles a third world ghetto. marco999
  • Score: 112

9:10am Wed 20 Aug 14

Lynn57 says...

The town centre is a poverty stricken dump that resembles the Middle East. Nearby Wigan is more pleasant and welcoming.
The town centre is a poverty stricken dump that resembles the Middle East. Nearby Wigan is more pleasant and welcoming. Lynn57
  • Score: 69

9:18am Wed 20 Aug 14

albertmodley says...

marco999 wrote:
If Bolton continues to decline at the same rate it has done during previous years then the next 20 years will see it transformed into something that resembles a third world ghetto.
"It is Now! "(Ken Wolstenholme, World Cup 1966)
[quote][p][bold]marco999[/bold] wrote: If Bolton continues to decline at the same rate it has done during previous years then the next 20 years will see it transformed into something that resembles a third world ghetto.[/p][/quote]"It is Now! "(Ken Wolstenholme, World Cup 1966) albertmodley
  • Score: 36

10:24am Wed 20 Aug 14

Djorkaeff's right peg says...

I wouldn't worry, there are already steps in place to eradicate this over crowded planet. I doubt there will be a mass exodus from England any time soon either.

There is an axis of evil taking place in the world that is going to spread like the bubonic plague. Read between the lines and open your eyes. Media propaganda and synthetic doctrines infiltrate the minds of the masses.

If human beings were able to co-exist, irrelevant of ethnicity, creed/beliefs, then we would not be witnessing the most horrendous atrocities of the 21st century.
I wouldn't worry, there are already steps in place to eradicate this over crowded planet. I doubt there will be a mass exodus from England any time soon either. There is an axis of evil taking place in the world that is going to spread like the bubonic plague. Read between the lines and open your eyes. Media propaganda and synthetic doctrines infiltrate the minds of the masses. If human beings were able to co-exist, irrelevant of ethnicity, creed/beliefs, then we would not be witnessing the most horrendous atrocities of the 21st century. Djorkaeff's right peg
  • Score: 52

10:45am Wed 20 Aug 14

Ernagy2 says...

Some of Bolton councils literature already claimed the population of the town was over 350,000 so I'm a bit confused. Obviously there is going to be very few green spaces to fit them in and the way the Town is going very few jobs for them to take up near by. High speed trains into London HS2 are going to be needed as getting to London in an hour will be a necessity. Not all jobs will be IT based
Some of Bolton councils literature already claimed the population of the town was over 350,000 so I'm a bit confused. Obviously there is going to be very few green spaces to fit them in and the way the Town is going very few jobs for them to take up near by. High speed trains into London HS2 are going to be needed as getting to London in an hour will be a necessity. Not all jobs will be IT based Ernagy2
  • Score: 9

12:26pm Wed 20 Aug 14

themoaner68 says...

DAUBHILLISRUINED wrote:
And the reason is..... uncontrolled immigration and illegal immigrants, what else do the local council and present and previous governments expect.
The town and country is a disgrace for having allowed this for years and it's still going on, daubhill and deane are like Asian and African third world villages, I'm surprised they are not walking around with cooking pots on their heads, although I did see what looked liked a somalian woman with a sack of spuds or onions on her head last week walking down willows lane... I kid you not I was pmsl :-) I couldn't get my phone out of my pocket fast enough to take a picture...lol
How does an illegal immigrant get housing?? Check things before putting silly comments on..
[quote][p][bold]DAUBHILLISRUINED[/bold] wrote: And the reason is..... uncontrolled immigration and illegal immigrants, what else do the local council and present and previous governments expect. The town and country is a disgrace for having allowed this for years and it's still going on, daubhill and deane are like Asian and African third world villages, I'm surprised they are not walking around with cooking pots on their heads, although I did see what looked liked a somalian woman with a sack of spuds or onions on her head last week walking down willows lane... I kid you not I was pmsl :-) I couldn't get my phone out of my pocket fast enough to take a picture...lol[/p][/quote]How does an illegal immigrant get housing?? Check things before putting silly comments on.. themoaner68
  • Score: -35

12:32pm Wed 20 Aug 14

johnnykilroy4 says...

Bolton isn't like it use to be 😩
Bolton isn't like it use to be 😩 johnnykilroy4
  • Score: 30

12:35pm Wed 20 Aug 14

nigella farrage says...

Uncontrolled and illegal immigration?

Lets see the Afro-carribbean migranst and Asian migrants are definitely NOT uncontrolled as they have to apply for Visa's to enter the country - as they will be the biggest migrants then it is not uncontrolled!!!!

As for illegals - firstly they cannot get any benefits (only food stamps to see them through) as for health-care if teh NHS did their job properly then they would be forcing these people to pay for treatment - the laws are already in place and have been since the start of the NHS (just laziness on behalf of the various NHS trusts not to bill!)


BUt if BOlto is to grow that large then they ought to start looking for help on how to expand with the population. Their best bet would be like Almere in The Netherlands which didn't exist until 1978 and has already over 200,000 people and is planning to take an extra 150,000 people over the next 20 years!!! In fact any city in The Netherlands would be a good starting point -limited availability of alnd and a population expansion of over 5 million in the last 3 years (per capita the fastest population grwoth in Europe) and expected to rise another 10 million in the enxt 10 years!!!!
Uncontrolled and illegal immigration? Lets see the Afro-carribbean migranst and Asian migrants are definitely NOT uncontrolled as they have to apply for Visa's to enter the country - as they will be the biggest migrants then it is not uncontrolled!!!! As for illegals - firstly they cannot get any benefits (only food stamps to see them through) as for health-care if teh NHS did their job properly then they would be forcing these people to pay for treatment - the laws are already in place and have been since the start of the NHS (just laziness on behalf of the various NHS trusts not to bill!) BUt if BOlto is to grow that large then they ought to start looking for help on how to expand with the population. Their best bet would be like Almere in The Netherlands which didn't exist until 1978 and has already over 200,000 people and is planning to take an extra 150,000 people over the next 20 years!!! In fact any city in The Netherlands would be a good starting point -limited availability of alnd and a population expansion of over 5 million in the last 3 years (per capita the fastest population grwoth in Europe) and expected to rise another 10 million in the enxt 10 years!!!! nigella farrage
  • Score: -63

12:46pm Wed 20 Aug 14

John Edwards says...

themoaner68 says... How does an illegal immigrant get housing?? Check things before putting silly comments on..

Where my friend lives this council took away a third of the park and built house on the land. Every house was given to immigrants. This town is a third world town, walking around Bolton it is occasionally good to hear English spoken.
themoaner68 says... How does an illegal immigrant get housing?? Check things before putting silly comments on.. Where my friend lives this council took away a third of the park and built house on the land. Every house was given to immigrants. This town is a third world town, walking around Bolton it is occasionally good to hear English spoken. John Edwards
  • Score: 41

12:57pm Wed 20 Aug 14

mrs philainsy says...

No:
The Bolton News: Yellow bar used for ballot results 17%



Come on own up, which Twiglets voted NO - Bolton isnt overcrowded?

Shopping is a nightmare and not a pleasure anymore, there is no breathing space at all.

Bolton is crammed to the Brim, and thats a fact.
No: The Bolton News: Yellow bar used for ballot results 17% Come on own up, which Twiglets voted NO - Bolton isnt overcrowded? Shopping is a nightmare and not a pleasure anymore, there is no breathing space at all. Bolton is crammed to the Brim, and thats a fact. mrs philainsy
  • Score: 15

1:02pm Wed 20 Aug 14

DAUBHILLISRUINED says...

themoaner68 wrote:
DAUBHILLISRUINED wrote:
And the reason is..... uncontrolled immigration and illegal immigrants, what else do the local council and present and previous governments expect.
The town and country is a disgrace for having allowed this for years and it's still going on, daubhill and deane are like Asian and African third world villages, I'm surprised they are not walking around with cooking pots on their heads, although I did see what looked liked a somalian woman with a sack of spuds or onions on her head last week walking down willows lane... I kid you not I was pmsl :-) I couldn't get my phone out of my pocket fast enough to take a picture...lol
How does an illegal immigrant get housing?? Check things before putting silly comments on..
FALSE documents, false passports, multiple identities, multiple benefit claims ...don't be so naïve and gullible to believe it don't happen !! is it any wonder with people like you about who bury their head in the sand. TUT TUT TUT
[quote][p][bold]themoaner68[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DAUBHILLISRUINED[/bold] wrote: And the reason is..... uncontrolled immigration and illegal immigrants, what else do the local council and present and previous governments expect. The town and country is a disgrace for having allowed this for years and it's still going on, daubhill and deane are like Asian and African third world villages, I'm surprised they are not walking around with cooking pots on their heads, although I did see what looked liked a somalian woman with a sack of spuds or onions on her head last week walking down willows lane... I kid you not I was pmsl :-) I couldn't get my phone out of my pocket fast enough to take a picture...lol[/p][/quote]How does an illegal immigrant get housing?? Check things before putting silly comments on..[/p][/quote]FALSE documents, false passports, multiple identities, multiple benefit claims ...don't be so naïve and gullible to believe it don't happen !! is it any wonder with people like you about who bury their head in the sand. TUT TUT TUT DAUBHILLISRUINED
  • Score: 41

1:08pm Wed 20 Aug 14

Djorkaeff's right peg says...

DAUBHILLISRUINED wrote:
And the reason is..... uncontrolled immigration and illegal immigrants, what else do the local council and present and previous governments expect.
The town and country is a disgrace for having allowed this for years and it's still going on, daubhill and deane are like Asian and African third world villages, I'm surprised they are not walking around with cooking pots on their heads, although I did see what looked liked a somalian woman with a sack of spuds or onions on her head last week walking down willows lane... I kid you not I was pmsl :-) I couldn't get my phone out of my pocket fast enough to take a picture...lol
I don't think it's appropriate to cast aspersions on others' cultural traditions and way of life. Many have fled persecution and deserve to lead a life away from an aggressive tyranny

There is freedom of movement within the EU for asylum, granted, but it is meddling bureaucrats who legislate for the proportion of non-EU nationals that Britain should accommodate. This is having massive repercussions on our strained infrastructure (health, housing, education and so forth).

Although I do agree with equality for all, people who are privileged enough to be here should make a valid contribution to society. People should be willing and able to sustain their families, integrate, communicate, self-educate and adapt to the way of life here. Unfortunately, these privileges are often abused and that is where certain laws are inadequate and ineffective and we become stuck with the permanent problem of non-integration and possible radicalization.
[quote][p][bold]DAUBHILLISRUINED[/bold] wrote: And the reason is..... uncontrolled immigration and illegal immigrants, what else do the local council and present and previous governments expect. The town and country is a disgrace for having allowed this for years and it's still going on, daubhill and deane are like Asian and African third world villages, I'm surprised they are not walking around with cooking pots on their heads, although I did see what looked liked a somalian woman with a sack of spuds or onions on her head last week walking down willows lane... I kid you not I was pmsl :-) I couldn't get my phone out of my pocket fast enough to take a picture...lol[/p][/quote]I don't think it's appropriate to cast aspersions on others' cultural traditions and way of life. Many have fled persecution and deserve to lead a life away from an aggressive tyranny There is freedom of movement within the EU for asylum, granted, but it is meddling bureaucrats who legislate for the proportion of non-EU nationals that Britain should accommodate. This is having massive repercussions on our strained infrastructure (health, housing, education and so forth). Although I do agree with equality for all, people who are privileged enough to be here should make a valid contribution to society. People should be willing and able to sustain their families, integrate, communicate, self-educate and adapt to the way of life here. Unfortunately, these privileges are often abused and that is where certain laws are inadequate and ineffective and we become stuck with the permanent problem of non-integration and possible radicalization. Djorkaeff's right peg
  • Score: 11

1:12pm Wed 20 Aug 14

Wolfie190 says...

nigella farrage wrote:
Uncontrolled and illegal immigration?

Lets see the Afro-carribbean migranst and Asian migrants are definitely NOT uncontrolled as they have to apply for Visa's to enter the country - as they will be the biggest migrants then it is not uncontrolled!!!!

As for illegals - firstly they cannot get any benefits (only food stamps to see them through) as for health-care if teh NHS did their job properly then they would be forcing these people to pay for treatment - the laws are already in place and have been since the start of the NHS (just laziness on behalf of the various NHS trusts not to bill!)


BUt if BOlto is to grow that large then they ought to start looking for help on how to expand with the population. Their best bet would be like Almere in The Netherlands which didn't exist until 1978 and has already over 200,000 people and is planning to take an extra 150,000 people over the next 20 years!!! In fact any city in The Netherlands would be a good starting point -limited availability of alnd and a population expansion of over 5 million in the last 3 years (per capita the fastest population grwoth in Europe) and expected to rise another 10 million in the enxt 10 years!!!!
Why do you keep changing your many usernames on here ?

Lets see if those illegals in that container get to stay here who needs visas to claim benefits in the UK it almost seems an advantage to have a bad criminal record to come here and claim benefits.
[quote][p][bold]nigella farrage[/bold] wrote: Uncontrolled and illegal immigration? Lets see the Afro-carribbean migranst and Asian migrants are definitely NOT uncontrolled as they have to apply for Visa's to enter the country - as they will be the biggest migrants then it is not uncontrolled!!!! As for illegals - firstly they cannot get any benefits (only food stamps to see them through) as for health-care if teh NHS did their job properly then they would be forcing these people to pay for treatment - the laws are already in place and have been since the start of the NHS (just laziness on behalf of the various NHS trusts not to bill!) BUt if BOlto is to grow that large then they ought to start looking for help on how to expand with the population. Their best bet would be like Almere in The Netherlands which didn't exist until 1978 and has already over 200,000 people and is planning to take an extra 150,000 people over the next 20 years!!! In fact any city in The Netherlands would be a good starting point -limited availability of alnd and a population expansion of over 5 million in the last 3 years (per capita the fastest population grwoth in Europe) and expected to rise another 10 million in the enxt 10 years!!!![/p][/quote]Why do you keep changing your many usernames on here ? Lets see if those illegals in that container get to stay here who needs visas to claim benefits in the UK it almost seems an advantage to have a bad criminal record to come here and claim benefits. Wolfie190
  • Score: 18

1:12pm Wed 20 Aug 14

cliff4treasurer says...

NIGELLA FARAGE You need to open your eyes and ears, your first two paragraphs are obviously written by a naïve child you enlisted .
So no one comes to Britain without a visa? You couldn't make it up.
No one gets help other than food stamps if they are illegal?
Obviously the trips to Mars have started and you just got back!
NIGELLA FARAGE You need to open your eyes and ears, your first two paragraphs are obviously written by a naïve child you enlisted . So no one comes to Britain without a visa? You couldn't make it up. No one gets help other than food stamps if they are illegal? Obviously the trips to Mars have started and you just got back! cliff4treasurer
  • Score: 9

1:21pm Wed 20 Aug 14

DAUBHILLISRUINED says...

Yes just hop into the back of a lorry or container, and the world is your oyster in this country.
The same old excuse of "I have come from a persecuted background" works wonders these days, what a s h I t h o l e this town and country has turned into.
But alas it's all to late now for it to have any effect whatsoever as the damage was done since this country allowed it all to begin in the early 60's
The country is doomed
Yes just hop into the back of a lorry or container, and the world is your oyster in this country. The same old excuse of "I have come from a persecuted background" works wonders these days, what a s h I t h o l e this town and country has turned into. But alas it's all to late now for it to have any effect whatsoever as the damage was done since this country allowed it all to begin in the early 60's The country is doomed DAUBHILLISRUINED
  • Score: 22

2:28pm Wed 20 Aug 14

themoaner68 says...

DAUBHILLISRUINED wrote:
themoaner68 wrote:
DAUBHILLISRUINED wrote:
And the reason is..... uncontrolled immigration and illegal immigrants, what else do the local council and present and previous governments expect.
The town and country is a disgrace for having allowed this for years and it's still going on, daubhill and deane are like Asian and African third world villages, I'm surprised they are not walking around with cooking pots on their heads, although I did see what looked liked a somalian woman with a sack of spuds or onions on her head last week walking down willows lane... I kid you not I was pmsl :-) I couldn't get my phone out of my pocket fast enough to take a picture...lol
How does an illegal immigrant get housing?? Check things before putting silly comments on..
FALSE documents, false passports, multiple identities, multiple benefit claims ...don't be so naïve and gullible to believe it don't happen !! is it any wonder with people like you about who bury their head in the sand. TUT TUT TUT
And its just that is it??. Just people from other countries causing the problem?? How about all the teenage girls walking about with two or three kids with them and haven't paid a penny in tax or NI, taking up all the houses. Seems to me your quite racist!!
[quote][p][bold]DAUBHILLISRUINED[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]themoaner68[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DAUBHILLISRUINED[/bold] wrote: And the reason is..... uncontrolled immigration and illegal immigrants, what else do the local council and present and previous governments expect. The town and country is a disgrace for having allowed this for years and it's still going on, daubhill and deane are like Asian and African third world villages, I'm surprised they are not walking around with cooking pots on their heads, although I did see what looked liked a somalian woman with a sack of spuds or onions on her head last week walking down willows lane... I kid you not I was pmsl :-) I couldn't get my phone out of my pocket fast enough to take a picture...lol[/p][/quote]How does an illegal immigrant get housing?? Check things before putting silly comments on..[/p][/quote]FALSE documents, false passports, multiple identities, multiple benefit claims ...don't be so naïve and gullible to believe it don't happen !! is it any wonder with people like you about who bury their head in the sand. TUT TUT TUT[/p][/quote]And its just that is it??. Just people from other countries causing the problem?? How about all the teenage girls walking about with two or three kids with them and haven't paid a penny in tax or NI, taking up all the houses. Seems to me your quite racist!! themoaner68
  • Score: 1

3:16pm Wed 20 Aug 14

DENBO1948 says...

blame yourselves for allowing these immigrants to make roots and settle in Bolton, but your not alone, Rochdale, Blackburn Burnley Bury the list goes on and on and on, all these towns have changed for the worse, they breed like Rabbits and will overwhelm us by sheer numbers, we already feel like strangers in our own towns with changing skylines we will be outcast's soon enough that's for sure, its just a pity our government and town halls don't see it or dare not say it, they are all running scared of the word racist which can be employed both ways
blame yourselves for allowing these immigrants to make roots and settle in Bolton, but your not alone, Rochdale, Blackburn Burnley Bury the list goes on and on and on, all these towns have changed for the worse, they breed like Rabbits and will overwhelm us by sheer numbers, we already feel like strangers in our own towns with changing skylines we will be outcast's soon enough that's for sure, its just a pity our government and town halls don't see it or dare not say it, they are all running scared of the word racist which can be employed both ways DENBO1948
  • Score: 78

3:16pm Wed 20 Aug 14

Tim Burr says...

NHS Bolton Clinical Commissioning Group have a long term plan, Bolton Council's plan for the next 20 years doesn't exist. It's reliant on private investment for housing and facilities, the road system is late Victorian with the overall infrastructure questionable to accommodate the needs of an ageing population and on the flip side, the young.

The policy thus far has been to take away facilities affecting young and old blaming everybody except themselves. They were advised a number of times regarding a lack of foresight but did they listen?

Another 'group' that is missing from the figures short and long term is the student population, transient as they are - if Bolton wants to attract overseas cash, it needs to offer more or at least equal facilities the students of Salford, UCAN and Manchester currently have available but without a plan - it isn't going to happen.
NHS Bolton Clinical Commissioning Group have a long term plan, Bolton Council's plan for the next 20 years doesn't exist. It's reliant on private investment for housing and facilities, the road system is late Victorian with the overall infrastructure questionable to accommodate the needs of an ageing population and on the flip side, the young. The policy thus far has been to take away facilities affecting young and old blaming everybody except themselves. They were advised a number of times regarding a lack of foresight but did they listen? Another 'group' that is missing from the figures short and long term is the student population, transient as they are - if Bolton wants to attract overseas cash, it needs to offer more or at least equal facilities the students of Salford, UCAN and Manchester currently have available but without a plan - it isn't going to happen. Tim Burr
  • Score: 20

3:33pm Wed 20 Aug 14

Little Lever Kerry says...

Who on earth counts all the people and how do they no they have got it right? I've never been counted or given a number.
Who on earth counts all the people and how do they no they have got it right? I've never been counted or given a number. Little Lever Kerry
  • Score: -5

3:42pm Wed 20 Aug 14

Djorkaeff's right peg says...

Little Lever Kerry wrote:
Who on earth counts all the people and how do they no they have got it right? I've never been counted or given a number.
The electoral roll, tax paying code, National Insurance number....

There are numerous ways they obtain the information. It is even obtained deceitfully these days without people even knowing. It will become more and more intrusive too as the world becomes even more uncertain.
[quote][p][bold]Little Lever Kerry[/bold] wrote: Who on earth counts all the people and how do they no they have got it right? I've never been counted or given a number.[/p][/quote]The electoral roll, tax paying code, National Insurance number.... There are numerous ways they obtain the information. It is even obtained deceitfully these days without people even knowing. It will become more and more intrusive too as the world becomes even more uncertain. Djorkaeff's right peg
  • Score: 10

4:34pm Wed 20 Aug 14

Barbara44 says...

You don't have to walk round town just walk in Heywood park at 3.15 when the school children are coming out of the new school there. Their parents were even parking their cars in the park they were asked not to but ignored this and the danger it posed, so now they have to lower the barrier to stop them driving into the park to collect their children.
You don't have to walk round town just walk in Heywood park at 3.15 when the school children are coming out of the new school there. Their parents were even parking their cars in the park they were asked not to but ignored this and the danger it posed, so now they have to lower the barrier to stop them driving into the park to collect their children. Barbara44
  • Score: 70

5:26pm Wed 20 Aug 14

Iluminati says...

Well we'll well. 20 mph speed limit in Bolton. I despair!!! What of course would happen is the fact that Bolton would be in total turmoil. Traffic queues as long as your eyes can see. Imaging Lorries, Buses, Low Loaders Taxis !!!!!, and Cars all travel at a max. speed limit of 20mph!!!! Total utter mayhem!! Travel times, delivery times and appointments will suffer as a consequence. One couldn't make this one up!!
Well we'll well. 20 mph speed limit in Bolton. I despair!!! What of course would happen is the fact that Bolton would be in total turmoil. Traffic queues as long as your eyes can see. Imaging Lorries, Buses, Low Loaders Taxis !!!!!, and Cars all travel at a max. speed limit of 20mph!!!! Total utter mayhem!! Travel times, delivery times and appointments will suffer as a consequence. One couldn't make this one up!! Iluminati
  • Score: 8

5:58pm Wed 20 Aug 14

Frankly Speaking says...

limit child benefit to two children. There will be less incentive for the ethnic minority to breed so prolifically. That should slow down the population growth .
limit child benefit to two children. There will be less incentive for the ethnic minority to breed so prolifically. That should slow down the population growth . Frankly Speaking
  • Score: 20

6:00pm Wed 20 Aug 14

Love Bolton says...

I can't blame people for wanting to move to or retire in Bolton. It is a great place to live. People are genuinely pleasant and fun. The views of the hills are fantastic too, open access for us all to enjoy. What a great place!
I can't blame people for wanting to move to or retire in Bolton. It is a great place to live. People are genuinely pleasant and fun. The views of the hills are fantastic too, open access for us all to enjoy. What a great place! Love Bolton
  • Score: -13

6:05pm Wed 20 Aug 14

Frankly Speaking says...

30% of the population of the UK will be non-white by 2050. why? uncontrolled immigration,Illegals and failure to deport.
30% of the population of the UK will be non-white by 2050. why? uncontrolled immigration,Illegals and failure to deport. Frankly Speaking
  • Score: 10

6:29pm Wed 20 Aug 14

DAUBHILLISRUINED says...

Barbara44 wrote:
You don't have to walk round town just walk in Heywood park at 3.15 when the school children are coming out of the new school there. Their parents were even parking their cars in the park they were asked not to but ignored this and the danger it posed, so now they have to lower the barrier to stop them driving into the park to collect their children.
Too right Barbara, it's just a pity the barrier at immigration control wasn't lowered as well :-)
[quote][p][bold]Barbara44[/bold] wrote: You don't have to walk round town just walk in Heywood park at 3.15 when the school children are coming out of the new school there. Their parents were even parking their cars in the park they were asked not to but ignored this and the danger it posed, so now they have to lower the barrier to stop them driving into the park to collect their children.[/p][/quote]Too right Barbara, it's just a pity the barrier at immigration control wasn't lowered as well :-) DAUBHILLISRUINED
  • Score: 18

7:35pm Wed 20 Aug 14

nigella farrage says...

cliffthetreasurer and wolfie190

Again you miss the point.

Illegals come from outside the EU, so if they are from within the EU they cannot be classed as illegals!!

The so-called ethnic minority that is about to expend are also, originally, from outside the EU - therefore to get into the UK visa's ARE required!! And if you had not realised recently to get a visa is much tougher than what it was 18 months ago!!!!

For both they are not allowed to have benefits for the first 6 months!!!! As for illegals they cannot get benefits at all as they cannot register. To receive benefits in todays world one has to have a bank account so that the benefits are directly paid into the account as benefits are no longer given as cash!!! And to open a Bank account one has to have the correct credentials such as passport, (visa if arrived from outside the EU), and rental agreement!!!!
Yes they are allowed food stamps and they have to be housed until their hearing comes along - but they are not given houses, they are put in half-way housing or even secured housing!

If a person is moving form within the EU then there are reciprocal agreements, with other EU member countries, with regards to benefits and as such the country doesn't actually lose out!!!

As for those who gain false passports, etc etc etc the number of these is far lower than what you actually think, but the total cost is paled into comparison when British born falsify the state by claiming when working, still claiming when they are actually on holiday (when in reality they are meant to sign off for the period they are away) etc etc etc

It is about time many of the so-called urban myths were shown the door and actual facts were given!
cliffthetreasurer and wolfie190 Again you miss the point. Illegals come from outside the EU, so if they are from within the EU they cannot be classed as illegals!! The so-called ethnic minority that is about to expend are also, originally, from outside the EU - therefore to get into the UK visa's ARE required!! And if you had not realised recently to get a visa is much tougher than what it was 18 months ago!!!! For both they are not allowed to have benefits for the first 6 months!!!! As for illegals they cannot get benefits at all as they cannot register. To receive benefits in todays world one has to have a bank account so that the benefits are directly paid into the account as benefits are no longer given as cash!!! And to open a Bank account one has to have the correct credentials such as passport, (visa if arrived from outside the EU), and rental agreement!!!! Yes they are allowed food stamps and they have to be housed until their hearing comes along - but they are not given houses, they are put in half-way housing or even secured housing! If a person is moving form within the EU then there are reciprocal agreements, with other EU member countries, with regards to benefits and as such the country doesn't actually lose out!!! As for those who gain false passports, etc etc etc the number of these is far lower than what you actually think, but the total cost is paled into comparison when British born falsify the state by claiming when working, still claiming when they are actually on holiday (when in reality they are meant to sign off for the period they are away) etc etc etc It is about time many of the so-called urban myths were shown the door and actual facts were given! nigella farrage
  • Score: -67

7:48pm Wed 20 Aug 14

nigella farrage says...

hmm, you think Bolton is in a tough position.....

In October 2007, the city council of Almere made agreements with the government to expand the city to 350,000 inhabitants by 2030

As of 2011:

Dutch Natives: 62.3%
Eu Migrants: 9.8%
Non-EU Migrants: 27.9% (From Islamic countries: 18%, Non Islamic countries 9.6%)


The world is changing and everyone is mingling with each other - this is the future, you either take it in your stride and help it become a better world or become a mythering old whinger like quite a few on here!!!
hmm, you think Bolton is in a tough position..... In October 2007, the city council of Almere made agreements with the government to expand the city to 350,000 inhabitants by 2030 As of 2011: Dutch Natives: 62.3% Eu Migrants: 9.8% Non-EU Migrants: 27.9% (From Islamic countries: 18%, Non Islamic countries 9.6%) The world is changing and everyone is mingling with each other - this is the future, you either take it in your stride and help it become a better world or become a mythering old whinger like quite a few on here!!! nigella farrage
  • Score: -97

8:12pm Wed 20 Aug 14

Beyond News Forum says...

Terry McC wrote:
ethnic residents in Bolton is also on the rise, and increased from 12.8 per cent of the population in 2001 to 20.6 per cent in 2011. let me guess the reason for the increase oh hang on no point
And in the real world of 2014 do we get the new statistic of 25-30%.
[quote][p][bold]Terry McC[/bold] wrote: ethnic residents in Bolton is also on the rise, and increased from 12.8 per cent of the population in 2001 to 20.6 per cent in 2011. let me guess the reason for the increase oh hang on no point[/p][/quote]And in the real world of 2014 do we get the new statistic of 25-30%. Beyond News Forum
  • Score: 4

8:42pm Wed 20 Aug 14

Say It As You See It says...

I wouldnt begrudge anybody working to make a living. It doesnt matter where you are from. What I will say is anybody who wants to be here has to to pay into the system tax, NI etc and should not be able to vote until they have been here and working unbroken for 5 years. Basically we need to get out of Europe and anybody who wants to live here must have a job lined up before they get a visa. If they lose their job, should have 3 months to find another or be deported. The thing is our government Labour or Tories are proud that we are so multicultural or so they say. Basically we are the laughing stock of Europe and they know it
I wouldnt begrudge anybody working to make a living. It doesnt matter where you are from. What I will say is anybody who wants to be here has to to pay into the system tax, NI etc and should not be able to vote until they have been here and working unbroken for 5 years. Basically we need to get out of Europe and anybody who wants to live here must have a job lined up before they get a visa. If they lose their job, should have 3 months to find another or be deported. The thing is our government Labour or Tories are proud that we are so multicultural or so they say. Basically we are the laughing stock of Europe and they know it Say It As You See It
  • Score: 11

10:02pm Wed 20 Aug 14

nigella farrage says...

Lets face it every town and city in every "western" country faces the same problems.

Bolton is definitely NOT in a unique position.

People are living longer, we are currently in a baby boom scenario (of all creeds with the largest coming from caucasian Christian sect)

The country with the biggest influx of migrants and rising population is actually Norway (which isn't even within the EU), and not UK as the urban myth suggests!!!!!
Lets face it every town and city in every "western" country faces the same problems. Bolton is definitely NOT in a unique position. People are living longer, we are currently in a baby boom scenario (of all creeds with the largest coming from caucasian Christian sect) The country with the biggest influx of migrants and rising population is actually Norway (which isn't even within the EU), and not UK as the urban myth suggests!!!!! nigella farrage
  • Score: -58

10:12pm Wed 20 Aug 14

nigella farrage says...

Just one quick question to those who are moaning.

It doesn't matter how many generations you go back, but would you be living and breathing in this country if your forefathers had not migrated here? Did they have jobs when they first came here?


Fact is the world population is now over 7 billion and is increasing by the second. Also movement between countries and continents is at its highest level ever and so it should be - freedom of choice freedom to move where people want to be, or where the work is or where they believe they have a better standard of life. All these freedom were fought for, and won, by our forefathers of ALL religions and colours and they should be upheld.

We are all born the same way, we are all given the same opportunities in life, we all have red blood and we all have intelligence and we all die. We are the HUMAN race and the land we live on is the planet Earth and as such we are all free to be where we want to be.
Just one quick question to those who are moaning. It doesn't matter how many generations you go back, but would you be living and breathing in this country if your forefathers had not migrated here? Did they have jobs when they first came here? Fact is the world population is now over 7 billion and is increasing by the second. Also movement between countries and continents is at its highest level ever and so it should be - freedom of choice freedom to move where people want to be, or where the work is or where they believe they have a better standard of life. All these freedom were fought for, and won, by our forefathers of ALL religions and colours and they should be upheld. We are all born the same way, we are all given the same opportunities in life, we all have red blood and we all have intelligence and we all die. We are the HUMAN race and the land we live on is the planet Earth and as such we are all free to be where we want to be. nigella farrage
  • Score: -69

10:22pm Wed 20 Aug 14

Citizen Cane says...

Hectoriva wrote:
Well I think we can thank the government for this, unrestricted immigration, benefits handed out to families who breed beyond their means and an unwillingness to even admit there is a problem! VOTE UKIP!
The first comment on this thread summed up the two biggest problems in Broken Britain and the reason that it won't get sorted. Ultimately it will all end in tears.
[quote][p][bold]Hectoriva[/bold] wrote: Well I think we can thank the government for this, unrestricted immigration, benefits handed out to families who breed beyond their means and an unwillingness to even admit there is a problem! VOTE UKIP![/p][/quote]The first comment on this thread summed up the two biggest problems in Broken Britain and the reason that it won't get sorted. Ultimately it will all end in tears. Citizen Cane
  • Score: 4

10:41pm Wed 20 Aug 14

Dirty Hamed says...

nigella farrage wrote:
hmm, you think Bolton is in a tough position.....

In October 2007, the city council of Almere made agreements with the government to expand the city to 350,000 inhabitants by 2030

As of 2011:

Dutch Natives: 62.3%
Eu Migrants: 9.8%
Non-EU Migrants: 27.9% (From Islamic countries: 18%, Non Islamic countries 9.6%)


The world is changing and everyone is mingling with each other - this is the future, you either take it in your stride and help it become a better world or become a mythering old whinger like quite a few on here!!!
I dont know how you can even say that with everything that's going on in the world today, immigration / multiculturism is a bad idea it's plain to see, you need to take the blinkers off !
[quote][p][bold]nigella farrage[/bold] wrote: hmm, you think Bolton is in a tough position..... In October 2007, the city council of Almere made agreements with the government to expand the city to 350,000 inhabitants by 2030 As of 2011: Dutch Natives: 62.3% Eu Migrants: 9.8% Non-EU Migrants: 27.9% (From Islamic countries: 18%, Non Islamic countries 9.6%) The world is changing and everyone is mingling with each other - this is the future, you either take it in your stride and help it become a better world or become a mythering old whinger like quite a few on here!!![/p][/quote]I dont know how you can even say that with everything that's going on in the world today, immigration / multiculturism is a bad idea it's plain to see, you need to take the blinkers off ! Dirty Hamed
  • Score: 10

10:48pm Wed 20 Aug 14

united99 says...

Lynn57 wrote:
The town centre is a poverty stricken dump that resembles the Middle East. Nearby Wigan is more pleasant and welcoming.
Go and live there then you are most welcome - I am loving the comments on here !!!
Daubhill man you don't like what you see then it's time to hop on - I love daubhill and Deane infact I love bolton, I don't care if this town is overpopulated because eu allows them to come here so stop being a racist and get on with your life.
It could be worse you could be in Bradford Leicester or Oldham but it won't be to long before bolton is the same.
All my cousins love bolton every time they come down we have the Asian shops restaurants etc and did you know derby street is one the most famous roads amongst the Asians not only in England but through out the world so it's not that bad after all is it...
Simple message if you feel the ethnics have taken over bolton and you don't like it then stop whinging and it's time to leave.

Thank you
[quote][p][bold]Lynn57[/bold] wrote: The town centre is a poverty stricken dump that resembles the Middle East. Nearby Wigan is more pleasant and welcoming.[/p][/quote]Go and live there then you are most welcome - I am loving the comments on here !!! Daubhill man you don't like what you see then it's time to hop on - I love daubhill and Deane infact I love bolton, I don't care if this town is overpopulated because eu allows them to come here so stop being a racist and get on with your life. It could be worse you could be in Bradford Leicester or Oldham but it won't be to long before bolton is the same. All my cousins love bolton every time they come down we have the Asian shops restaurants etc and did you know derby street is one the most famous roads amongst the Asians not only in England but through out the world so it's not that bad after all is it... Simple message if you feel the ethnics have taken over bolton and you don't like it then stop whinging and it's time to leave. Thank you united99
  • Score: -17

3:25am Thu 21 Aug 14

DanThornton says...

John Edwards wrote:
themoaner68 says... How does an illegal immigrant get housing?? Check things before putting silly comments on..

Where my friend lives this council took away a third of the park and built house on the land. Every house was given to immigrants. This town is a third world town, walking around Bolton it is occasionally good to hear English spoken.
All those gorgeous houses :( lovely gardens... with a shed! 3 or 4 bedrooms, all built and fitted out 'posh'. No one even had a slight chance of getting one. Some of the people who moved in ages ago and still have bed sheets up at windows :/ they don't give a feck it's bulls poo. Give it a few month and they'll all be ruined, They don't appreciate anything!!! They come here handed everything, nice home, free money, gas and electric paid for, businesses tax free, free car? some councils pay for home furnishing ect.. They're absolutely laughing at us!!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]John Edwards[/bold] wrote: themoaner68 says... How does an illegal immigrant get housing?? Check things before putting silly comments on.. Where my friend lives this council took away a third of the park and built house on the land. Every house was given to immigrants. This town is a third world town, walking around Bolton it is occasionally good to hear English spoken.[/p][/quote]All those gorgeous houses :( lovely gardens... with a shed! 3 or 4 bedrooms, all built and fitted out 'posh'. No one even had a slight chance of getting one. Some of the people who moved in ages ago and still have bed sheets up at windows :/ they don't give a feck it's bulls poo. Give it a few month and they'll all be ruined, They don't appreciate anything!!! They come here handed everything, nice home, free money, gas and electric paid for, businesses tax free, free car? some councils pay for home furnishing ect.. They're absolutely laughing at us!!!!!!! DanThornton
  • Score: 8

10:47am Thu 21 Aug 14

FreedomOfSpeech1945 says...

Vote UKIP guys. Too many immigrants here spurting out kids left right and centre!
Vote UKIP guys. Too many immigrants here spurting out kids left right and centre! FreedomOfSpeech1945
  • Score: 14

11:58am Thu 21 Aug 14

FreedomOfSpeech1945 says...

United 99. When the IS declare war on the UK, who's side do you think all the Muslims will be on? We will see Mosques turned in to Military posts, there will be soldiers on our streets because of the IS. Then what? Will you all be 'so friendly'?
United 99. When the IS declare war on the UK, who's side do you think all the Muslims will be on? We will see Mosques turned in to Military posts, there will be soldiers on our streets because of the IS. Then what? Will you all be 'so friendly'? FreedomOfSpeech1945
  • Score: 10

12:42pm Thu 21 Aug 14

nigella farrage says...

Freedom - what a load of codswallop!!!


Firstly IS(IS) are only in Northern Iraq and it is the Sunni Muslims and the Siqas Muslims (long with the Kurds) that are fighting against the terrorist group!!!

So how you can say that ALL muslims will join IS(IS0 is a complete joke. It is liek saying all Catholics, in the world, joined the IRA terrorist organisation!!!!!

Also the IS(IS) movement have been banned in many other Muslim countries and are being fought against by other Muslims from neighbouring countries!!!!


Calm down, Freedom, and look at the bigger picture and see what is actually happening is nothing but a storm in a tea-cup. If Iraq had no oil do you honetly think all this would be making the world news???
Freedom - what a load of codswallop!!! Firstly IS(IS) are only in Northern Iraq and it is the Sunni Muslims and the Siqas Muslims (long with the Kurds) that are fighting against the terrorist group!!! So how you can say that ALL muslims will join IS(IS0 is a complete joke. It is liek saying all Catholics, in the world, joined the IRA terrorist organisation!!!!! Also the IS(IS) movement have been banned in many other Muslim countries and are being fought against by other Muslims from neighbouring countries!!!! Calm down, Freedom, and look at the bigger picture and see what is actually happening is nothing but a storm in a tea-cup. If Iraq had no oil do you honetly think all this would be making the world news??? nigella farrage
  • Score: -7

12:47pm Thu 21 Aug 14

nigella farrage says...

Dirty Hamed wrote:
nigella farrage wrote:
hmm, you think Bolton is in a tough position.....

In October 2007, the city council of Almere made agreements with the government to expand the city to 350,000 inhabitants by 2030

As of 2011:

Dutch Natives: 62.3%
Eu Migrants: 9.8%
Non-EU Migrants: 27.9% (From Islamic countries: 18%, Non Islamic countries 9.6%)


The world is changing and everyone is mingling with each other - this is the future, you either take it in your stride and help it become a better world or become a mythering old whinger like quite a few on here!!!
I dont know how you can even say that with everything that's going on in the world today, immigration / multiculturism is a bad idea it's plain to see, you need to take the blinkers off !
My blinkers are off as the worlds troubles only account for about 5% of the total earths surface and about 8% of the worlds population. The rest of the world live in relatively peaceful environment!!!

If immigration is a bad idea than why is it that 99.9% of all British people come from immgrants over the last 2000 years. It doesn't seem to have had a bad effect there.

Also if you are so disillusioned to immigartion - lets not forget that history shows if we haven't have had the Empire we did then immigration now would be nowhere near as bad as the migrants are only coming from lands that are/were part of teh British Empire - and as such, even in today's world, that makes them British subjects/citizens and, therefore, in reality, they are not migrants!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Dirty Hamed[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nigella farrage[/bold] wrote: hmm, you think Bolton is in a tough position..... In October 2007, the city council of Almere made agreements with the government to expand the city to 350,000 inhabitants by 2030 As of 2011: Dutch Natives: 62.3% Eu Migrants: 9.8% Non-EU Migrants: 27.9% (From Islamic countries: 18%, Non Islamic countries 9.6%) The world is changing and everyone is mingling with each other - this is the future, you either take it in your stride and help it become a better world or become a mythering old whinger like quite a few on here!!![/p][/quote]I dont know how you can even say that with everything that's going on in the world today, immigration / multiculturism is a bad idea it's plain to see, you need to take the blinkers off ![/p][/quote]My blinkers are off as the worlds troubles only account for about 5% of the total earths surface and about 8% of the worlds population. The rest of the world live in relatively peaceful environment!!! If immigration is a bad idea than why is it that 99.9% of all British people come from immgrants over the last 2000 years. It doesn't seem to have had a bad effect there. Also if you are so disillusioned to immigartion - lets not forget that history shows if we haven't have had the Empire we did then immigration now would be nowhere near as bad as the migrants are only coming from lands that are/were part of teh British Empire - and as such, even in today's world, that makes them British subjects/citizens and, therefore, in reality, they are not migrants!!!! nigella farrage
  • Score: -9

2:13pm Thu 21 Aug 14

cliff4treasurer says...

Because when my ancestors came to this country it was a field but through there and subsequent generations hard work it isn't now.
I don't wish to share it with immigrants.
However should they wish to come here and try to integrate they are more than welcome.
Unfortunately a certain section don't. End of.
Because when my ancestors came to this country it was a field but through there and subsequent generations hard work it isn't now. I don't wish to share it with immigrants. However should they wish to come here and try to integrate they are more than welcome. Unfortunately a certain section don't. End of. cliff4treasurer
  • Score: 9

7:07pm Thu 21 Aug 14

the hand says...

nigella farrage wrote:
Uncontrolled and illegal immigration?

Lets see the Afro-carribbean migranst and Asian migrants are definitely NOT uncontrolled as they have to apply for Visa's to enter the country - as they will be the biggest migrants then it is not uncontrolled!!!!

As for illegals - firstly they cannot get any benefits (only food stamps to see them through) as for health-care if teh NHS did their job properly then they would be forcing these people to pay for treatment - the laws are already in place and have been since the start of the NHS (just laziness on behalf of the various NHS trusts not to bill!)


BUt if BOlto is to grow that large then they ought to start looking for help on how to expand with the population. Their best bet would be like Almere in The Netherlands which didn't exist until 1978 and has already over 200,000 people and is planning to take an extra 150,000 people over the next 20 years!!! In fact any city in The Netherlands would be a good starting point -limited availability of alnd and a population expansion of over 5 million in the last 3 years (per capita the fastest population grwoth in Europe) and expected to rise another 10 million in the enxt 10 years!!!!
Can we expect you to go there then nigella oh I would miss all your missed spelt comments on here
[quote][p][bold]nigella farrage[/bold] wrote: Uncontrolled and illegal immigration? Lets see the Afro-carribbean migranst and Asian migrants are definitely NOT uncontrolled as they have to apply for Visa's to enter the country - as they will be the biggest migrants then it is not uncontrolled!!!! As for illegals - firstly they cannot get any benefits (only food stamps to see them through) as for health-care if teh NHS did their job properly then they would be forcing these people to pay for treatment - the laws are already in place and have been since the start of the NHS (just laziness on behalf of the various NHS trusts not to bill!) BUt if BOlto is to grow that large then they ought to start looking for help on how to expand with the population. Their best bet would be like Almere in The Netherlands which didn't exist until 1978 and has already over 200,000 people and is planning to take an extra 150,000 people over the next 20 years!!! In fact any city in The Netherlands would be a good starting point -limited availability of alnd and a population expansion of over 5 million in the last 3 years (per capita the fastest population grwoth in Europe) and expected to rise another 10 million in the enxt 10 years!!!![/p][/quote]Can we expect you to go there then nigella oh I would miss all your missed spelt comments on here the hand
  • Score: 2

7:10pm Thu 21 Aug 14

united99 says...

FreedomOfSpeech1945 wrote:
United 99. When the IS declare war on the UK, who's side do you think all the Muslims will be on? We will see Mosques turned in to Military posts, there will be soldiers on our streets because of the IS. Then what? Will you all be 'so friendly'?
Is is not going to declare war on the uk what gives you that idea...
They are to busy in Iraq and Syria !
It's the Eastern Europeans you should be worried about 1945 the way it's going not Isis.
Better start filling them last few churches before they take them over like the Polish have in the church on high street.
[quote][p][bold]FreedomOfSpeech1945[/bold] wrote: United 99. When the IS declare war on the UK, who's side do you think all the Muslims will be on? We will see Mosques turned in to Military posts, there will be soldiers on our streets because of the IS. Then what? Will you all be 'so friendly'?[/p][/quote]Is is not going to declare war on the uk what gives you that idea... They are to busy in Iraq and Syria ! It's the Eastern Europeans you should be worried about 1945 the way it's going not Isis. Better start filling them last few churches before they take them over like the Polish have in the church on high street. united99
  • Score: -4

9:04pm Thu 21 Aug 14

united99 says...

DAUBHILLISRUINED wrote:
united99 wrote:
FreedomOfSpeech1945 wrote:
United 99. When the IS declare war on the UK, who's side do you think all the Muslims will be on? We will see Mosques turned in to Military posts, there will be soldiers on our streets because of the IS. Then what? Will you all be 'so friendly'?
Is is not going to declare war on the uk what gives you that idea...
They are to busy in Iraq and Syria !
It's the Eastern Europeans you should be worried about 1945 the way it's going not Isis.
Better start filling them last few churches before they take them over like the Polish have in the church on high street.
That church was bought in 1962 for £20.000 and I know of very few polish that have built or bought more, unlike the muslims who have built countless stupid mosques, takeaways, shops and over run the schools, since sneaking over here
See we don't mind the polish or others who come here in moderation... so you can see why there is an underlying resentment, or hatred for you lot.
The resentment and hatred comes from being jealous and the threat of being overpowered ie why do Asians own all the shops takeaways petrol stations build mosques etc.....
The reason is we get of our backsides and work **** hard to make a living in order for our children to get a decent education for them to be successful in life and contribute to society in a professional manner hence you see Asian doctors nurses accountants solicitors and the list goes on....
You got to have a balance in life it's not all about getting pi55ed on weekends and by Monday you are broke - that's not going to get you any where in life.
Don't waste it you only get one chance in life!
[quote][p][bold]DAUBHILLISRUINED[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]united99[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FreedomOfSpeech1945[/bold] wrote: United 99. When the IS declare war on the UK, who's side do you think all the Muslims will be on? We will see Mosques turned in to Military posts, there will be soldiers on our streets because of the IS. Then what? Will you all be 'so friendly'?[/p][/quote]Is is not going to declare war on the uk what gives you that idea... They are to busy in Iraq and Syria ! It's the Eastern Europeans you should be worried about 1945 the way it's going not Isis. Better start filling them last few churches before they take them over like the Polish have in the church on high street.[/p][/quote]That church was bought in 1962 for £20.000 and I know of very few polish that have built or bought more, unlike the muslims who have built countless stupid mosques, takeaways, shops and over run the schools, since sneaking over here See we don't mind the polish or others who come here in moderation... so you can see why there is an underlying resentment, or hatred for you lot.[/p][/quote]The resentment and hatred comes from being jealous and the threat of being overpowered ie why do Asians own all the shops takeaways petrol stations build mosques etc..... The reason is we get of our backsides and work **** hard to make a living in order for our children to get a decent education for them to be successful in life and contribute to society in a professional manner hence you see Asian doctors nurses accountants solicitors and the list goes on.... You got to have a balance in life it's not all about getting pi55ed on weekends and by Monday you are broke - that's not going to get you any where in life. Don't waste it you only get one chance in life! united99
  • Score: -4

7:06am Fri 22 Aug 14

By George says...

To fund the NHS and local Social services you need get all the people to contribute, just like a syndicate for a lottery , those who pay in are in the draw, those who do not pay don,t get a share of the winnings.
So whatever your colour, race etc you have to be in it to win it, same position for those who go abroad, don't forget to buy insurance for medical needs, take plenty of money if you don,t have a job because the country you go to will not give you a hand out. Simple meerkats?
To fund the NHS and local Social services you need get all the people to contribute, just like a syndicate for a lottery , those who pay in are in the draw, those who do not pay don,t get a share of the winnings. So whatever your colour, race etc you have to be in it to win it, same position for those who go abroad, don't forget to buy insurance for medical needs, take plenty of money if you don,t have a job because the country you go to will not give you a hand out. Simple meerkats? By George
  • Score: 5

12:21pm Fri 22 Aug 14

British Kuffir says...

themoaner68 wrote:
Why have the BN used a photo from the food festival,and called it a busy street??? Yes, say its a busy street during the food festival. And stop making out the streets are full to the brim. Have you seen the town center recently?? Its like a ghost town.. Cmon BN.. Sort yourself out!!
Bolton is generally crowded, despite the empty business premises.
Pedestrianised Newport street is almost impossible to walk along, due to the hordes of immigrants and dead-beats crowding the benches.
[quote][p][bold]themoaner68[/bold] wrote: Why have the BN used a photo from the food festival,and called it a busy street??? Yes, say its a busy street during the food festival. And stop making out the streets are full to the brim. Have you seen the town center recently?? Its like a ghost town.. Cmon BN.. Sort yourself out!![/p][/quote]Bolton is generally crowded, despite the empty business premises. Pedestrianised Newport street is almost impossible to walk along, due to the hordes of immigrants and dead-beats crowding the benches. British Kuffir
  • Score: 5

12:26pm Fri 22 Aug 14

British Kuffir says...

Bolton town centre is always busy, despite the empty business premises.

Take pedestrianised Newport street (please take it!). It's always difficult to navigate, due to hordes of immigrants and dead-beats hanging about.
A while ago, council Leader Cliff Morris said that the hordes of immigrants coming to Bolton show what a great place it is to live in.
Few people I speak to agree with him.
What a tosser! Straight out of cloud-cuckoo land.
Bolton town centre is always busy, despite the empty business premises. Take pedestrianised Newport street (please take it!). It's always difficult to navigate, due to hordes of immigrants and dead-beats hanging about. A while ago, council Leader Cliff Morris said that the hordes of immigrants coming to Bolton show what a great place it is to live in. Few people I speak to agree with him. What a tosser! Straight out of cloud-cuckoo land. British Kuffir
  • Score: 11

12:29pm Fri 22 Aug 14

British Kuffir says...

Lynn57 wrote:
The town centre is a poverty stricken dump that resembles the Middle East. Nearby Wigan is more pleasant and welcoming.
I agree, it is far more pleasant to visit.
Wigan has always resisted excessive immigration.
Even Bury, with more than its fair share of immigrants, is a better town centre.
[quote][p][bold]Lynn57[/bold] wrote: The town centre is a poverty stricken dump that resembles the Middle East. Nearby Wigan is more pleasant and welcoming.[/p][/quote]I agree, it is far more pleasant to visit. Wigan has always resisted excessive immigration. Even Bury, with more than its fair share of immigrants, is a better town centre. British Kuffir
  • Score: 2

4:20pm Fri 22 Aug 14

Dirty Hamed says...

united99 wrote:
DAUBHILLISRUINED wrote:
united99 wrote:
FreedomOfSpeech1945 wrote:
United 99. When the IS declare war on the UK, who's side do you think all the Muslims will be on? We will see Mosques turned in to Military posts, there will be soldiers on our streets because of the IS. Then what? Will you all be 'so friendly'?
Is is not going to declare war on the uk what gives you that idea...
They are to busy in Iraq and Syria !
It's the Eastern Europeans you should be worried about 1945 the way it's going not Isis.
Better start filling them last few churches before they take them over like the Polish have in the church on high street.
That church was bought in 1962 for £20.000 and I know of very few polish that have built or bought more, unlike the muslims who have built countless stupid mosques, takeaways, shops and over run the schools, since sneaking over here
See we don't mind the polish or others who come here in moderation... so you can see why there is an underlying resentment, or hatred for you lot.
The resentment and hatred comes from being jealous and the threat of being overpowered ie why do Asians own all the shops takeaways petrol stations build mosques etc.....
The reason is we get of our backsides and work **** hard to make a living in order for our children to get a decent education for them to be successful in life and contribute to society in a professional manner hence you see Asian doctors nurses accountants solicitors and the list goes on....
You got to have a balance in life it's not all about getting pi55ed on weekends and by Monday you are broke - that's not going to get you any where in life.
Don't waste it you only get one chance in life!
Why is Pakistan such a shathole then ? the only reason you do ok in this country is because of hard working English who have payed in to the system for hundreds of years, and as for contributing dont make me laugh, for every £1 you pay in you take £2 out, Now my smug friend get ready for your trip , the clock is ticking >>>
[quote][p][bold]united99[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DAUBHILLISRUINED[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]united99[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FreedomOfSpeech1945[/bold] wrote: United 99. When the IS declare war on the UK, who's side do you think all the Muslims will be on? We will see Mosques turned in to Military posts, there will be soldiers on our streets because of the IS. Then what? Will you all be 'so friendly'?[/p][/quote]Is is not going to declare war on the uk what gives you that idea... They are to busy in Iraq and Syria ! It's the Eastern Europeans you should be worried about 1945 the way it's going not Isis. Better start filling them last few churches before they take them over like the Polish have in the church on high street.[/p][/quote]That church was bought in 1962 for £20.000 and I know of very few polish that have built or bought more, unlike the muslims who have built countless stupid mosques, takeaways, shops and over run the schools, since sneaking over here See we don't mind the polish or others who come here in moderation... so you can see why there is an underlying resentment, or hatred for you lot.[/p][/quote]The resentment and hatred comes from being jealous and the threat of being overpowered ie why do Asians own all the shops takeaways petrol stations build mosques etc..... The reason is we get of our backsides and work **** hard to make a living in order for our children to get a decent education for them to be successful in life and contribute to society in a professional manner hence you see Asian doctors nurses accountants solicitors and the list goes on.... You got to have a balance in life it's not all about getting pi55ed on weekends and by Monday you are broke - that's not going to get you any where in life. Don't waste it you only get one chance in life![/p][/quote]Why is Pakistan such a shathole then ? the only reason you do ok in this country is because of hard working English who have payed in to the system for hundreds of years, and as for contributing dont make me laugh, for every £1 you pay in you take £2 out, Now my smug friend get ready for your trip , the clock is ticking >>> Dirty Hamed
  • Score: 6

7:17pm Fri 22 Aug 14

dennis11* says...

marco999 wrote:
If Bolton continues to decline at the same rate it has done during previous years then the next 20 years will see it transformed into something that resembles a third world ghetto.
and that is why so many of our own children, who have the education to secure jobs elsewhere, have left the town. they don't want to live in other parts of the UK, away from their family and friends, but they see no future in Bolton. How sad.
[quote][p][bold]marco999[/bold] wrote: If Bolton continues to decline at the same rate it has done during previous years then the next 20 years will see it transformed into something that resembles a third world ghetto.[/p][/quote]and that is why so many of our own children, who have the education to secure jobs elsewhere, have left the town. they don't want to live in other parts of the UK, away from their family and friends, but they see no future in Bolton. How sad. dennis11*
  • Score: 5

1:33pm Sat 23 Aug 14

FreedomOfSpeech1945 says...

Muslims do not integrate in to British Society. The End. That is all.
Muslims do not integrate in to British Society. The End. That is all. FreedomOfSpeech1945
  • Score: 3

7:34pm Sat 23 Aug 14

marco999 says...

I went to Wigan today to do some shopping. Been ages since I last visited the place. What a massive contrast to Bolton! The streets were packed with shoppers, the car parks relatively cheap and easy to find, in the galleries there were at least half a dozen cleaners keeping everything spick and span and the choice of shops was pretty amazing and would equal the Trafford centre in terms of quality. The market was on and the choices and contrasts were brilliant. If Wigan can get it right what on earth can Bolton's excuse be? So that's it, Wigan is my new shopping town (Pies are good there too)
I went to Wigan today to do some shopping. Been ages since I last visited the place. What a massive contrast to Bolton! The streets were packed with shoppers, the car parks relatively cheap and easy to find, in the galleries there were at least half a dozen cleaners keeping everything spick and span and the choice of shops was pretty amazing and would equal the Trafford centre in terms of quality. The market was on and the choices and contrasts were brilliant. If Wigan can get it right what on earth can Bolton's excuse be? So that's it, Wigan is my new shopping town (Pies are good there too) marco999
  • Score: 4

12:15am Sun 24 Aug 14

united99 says...

Dirty Hamed wrote:
united99 wrote:
DAUBHILLISRUINED wrote:
united99 wrote:
FreedomOfSpeech1945 wrote:
United 99. When the IS declare war on the UK, who's side do you think all the Muslims will be on? We will see Mosques turned in to Military posts, there will be soldiers on our streets because of the IS. Then what? Will you all be 'so friendly'?
Is is not going to declare war on the uk what gives you that idea...
They are to busy in Iraq and Syria !
It's the Eastern Europeans you should be worried about 1945 the way it's going not Isis.
Better start filling them last few churches before they take them over like the Polish have in the church on high street.
That church was bought in 1962 for £20.000 and I know of very few polish that have built or bought more, unlike the muslims who have built countless stupid mosques, takeaways, shops and over run the schools, since sneaking over here
See we don't mind the polish or others who come here in moderation... so you can see why there is an underlying resentment, or hatred for you lot.
The resentment and hatred comes from being jealous and the threat of being overpowered ie why do Asians own all the shops takeaways petrol stations build mosques etc.....
The reason is we get of our backsides and work **** hard to make a living in order for our children to get a decent education for them to be successful in life and contribute to society in a professional manner hence you see Asian doctors nurses accountants solicitors and the list goes on....
You got to have a balance in life it's not all about getting pi55ed on weekends and by Monday you are broke - that's not going to get you any where in life.
Don't waste it you only get one chance in life!
Why is Pakistan such a shathole then ? the only reason you do ok in this country is because of hard working English who have payed in to the system for hundreds of years, and as for contributing dont make me laugh, for every £1 you pay in you take £2 out, Now my smug friend get ready for your trip , the clock is ticking >>>
I always take a holiday at least twice a year and then come back and it's hard work catching criminals -now that should tell you I'm not a taxi driver....
[quote][p][bold]Dirty Hamed[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]united99[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DAUBHILLISRUINED[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]united99[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FreedomOfSpeech1945[/bold] wrote: United 99. When the IS declare war on the UK, who's side do you think all the Muslims will be on? We will see Mosques turned in to Military posts, there will be soldiers on our streets because of the IS. Then what? Will you all be 'so friendly'?[/p][/quote]Is is not going to declare war on the uk what gives you that idea... They are to busy in Iraq and Syria ! It's the Eastern Europeans you should be worried about 1945 the way it's going not Isis. Better start filling them last few churches before they take them over like the Polish have in the church on high street.[/p][/quote]That church was bought in 1962 for £20.000 and I know of very few polish that have built or bought more, unlike the muslims who have built countless stupid mosques, takeaways, shops and over run the schools, since sneaking over here See we don't mind the polish or others who come here in moderation... so you can see why there is an underlying resentment, or hatred for you lot.[/p][/quote]The resentment and hatred comes from being jealous and the threat of being overpowered ie why do Asians own all the shops takeaways petrol stations build mosques etc..... The reason is we get of our backsides and work **** hard to make a living in order for our children to get a decent education for them to be successful in life and contribute to society in a professional manner hence you see Asian doctors nurses accountants solicitors and the list goes on.... You got to have a balance in life it's not all about getting pi55ed on weekends and by Monday you are broke - that's not going to get you any where in life. Don't waste it you only get one chance in life![/p][/quote]Why is Pakistan such a shathole then ? the only reason you do ok in this country is because of hard working English who have payed in to the system for hundreds of years, and as for contributing dont make me laugh, for every £1 you pay in you take £2 out, Now my smug friend get ready for your trip , the clock is ticking >>>[/p][/quote]I always take a holiday at least twice a year and then come back and it's hard work catching criminals -now that should tell you I'm not a taxi driver.... united99
  • Score: -4

2:31am Sun 24 Aug 14

dameous says...

united99 wrote:
Dirty Hamed wrote:
united99 wrote:
DAUBHILLISRUINED wrote:
united99 wrote:
FreedomOfSpeech1945 wrote:
United 99. When the IS declare war on the UK, who's side do you think all the Muslims will be on? We will see Mosques turned in to Military posts, there will be soldiers on our streets because of the IS. Then what? Will you all be 'so friendly'?
Is is not going to declare war on the uk what gives you that idea...
They are to busy in Iraq and Syria !
It's the Eastern Europeans you should be worried about 1945 the way it's going not Isis.
Better start filling them last few churches before they take them over like the Polish have in the church on high street.
That church was bought in 1962 for £20.000 and I know of very few polish that have built or bought more, unlike the muslims who have built countless stupid mosques, takeaways, shops and over run the schools, since sneaking over here
See we don't mind the polish or others who come here in moderation... so you can see why there is an underlying resentment, or hatred for you lot.
The resentment and hatred comes from being jealous and the threat of being overpowered ie why do Asians own all the shops takeaways petrol stations build mosques etc.....
The reason is we get of our backsides and work **** hard to make a living in order for our children to get a decent education for them to be successful in life and contribute to society in a professional manner hence you see Asian doctors nurses accountants solicitors and the list goes on....
You got to have a balance in life it's not all about getting pi55ed on weekends and by Monday you are broke - that's not going to get you any where in life.
Don't waste it you only get one chance in life!
Why is Pakistan such a shathole then ? the only reason you do ok in this country is because of hard working English who have payed in to the system for hundreds of years, and as for contributing dont make me laugh, for every £1 you pay in you take £2 out, Now my smug friend get ready for your trip , the clock is ticking >>>
I always take a holiday at least twice a year and then come back and it's hard work catching criminals -now that should tell you I'm not a taxi driver....
Are you suggesting you are a police officer? Because some of your statements here on this forum (threatening to stop someone breathing if they bad mouthed Islam to your face etc.) would get you in a lot of trouble at work if you are.

I cant help noticing that in a lot of your posts you separate yourself from the rest of the Bolton community. Its not just you, I've seen several different people do the same thing, going on about the differences you perceive between muslims and non muslims, suggesting that Brits just want to get drunk and don't work, or have no education and dubious morals. I can understand this to a point, especially with some of the hateful comments that are levied at the muslim community on here, but do you not think that the problem is shared on both sides? There is a separation of our communities, but why? Though there will always be racist muppets to some extent, this kind of separation is not as prevalent with regards to other ethnic minority groups anymore. Its a given that people will tend to seek out like-minded people and live together, that's just human nature. But a lot of these posts seem to portray the muslim community as an entity that is disparate from the rest of Bolton. Again, its understandable to some extent, because some of the comments on here will certainly not help relations, but surely you have to accept that the problem is not just the fault of the non muslim people of this town? There is bigotry on both sides of the fence. We all have to make an effort to come together to make society work, because it cant work if one section holds another in contempt.
[quote][p][bold]united99[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dirty Hamed[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]united99[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DAUBHILLISRUINED[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]united99[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FreedomOfSpeech1945[/bold] wrote: United 99. When the IS declare war on the UK, who's side do you think all the Muslims will be on? We will see Mosques turned in to Military posts, there will be soldiers on our streets because of the IS. Then what? Will you all be 'so friendly'?[/p][/quote]Is is not going to declare war on the uk what gives you that idea... They are to busy in Iraq and Syria ! It's the Eastern Europeans you should be worried about 1945 the way it's going not Isis. Better start filling them last few churches before they take them over like the Polish have in the church on high street.[/p][/quote]That church was bought in 1962 for £20.000 and I know of very few polish that have built or bought more, unlike the muslims who have built countless stupid mosques, takeaways, shops and over run the schools, since sneaking over here See we don't mind the polish or others who come here in moderation... so you can see why there is an underlying resentment, or hatred for you lot.[/p][/quote]The resentment and hatred comes from being jealous and the threat of being overpowered ie why do Asians own all the shops takeaways petrol stations build mosques etc..... The reason is we get of our backsides and work **** hard to make a living in order for our children to get a decent education for them to be successful in life and contribute to society in a professional manner hence you see Asian doctors nurses accountants solicitors and the list goes on.... You got to have a balance in life it's not all about getting pi55ed on weekends and by Monday you are broke - that's not going to get you any where in life. Don't waste it you only get one chance in life![/p][/quote]Why is Pakistan such a shathole then ? the only reason you do ok in this country is because of hard working English who have payed in to the system for hundreds of years, and as for contributing dont make me laugh, for every £1 you pay in you take £2 out, Now my smug friend get ready for your trip , the clock is ticking >>>[/p][/quote]I always take a holiday at least twice a year and then come back and it's hard work catching criminals -now that should tell you I'm not a taxi driver....[/p][/quote]Are you suggesting you are a police officer? Because some of your statements here on this forum (threatening to stop someone breathing if they bad mouthed Islam to your face etc.) would get you in a lot of trouble at work if you are. I cant help noticing that in a lot of your posts you separate yourself from the rest of the Bolton community. Its not just you, I've seen several different people do the same thing, going on about the differences you perceive between muslims and non muslims, suggesting that Brits just want to get drunk and don't work, or have no education and dubious morals. I can understand this to a point, especially with some of the hateful comments that are levied at the muslim community on here, but do you not think that the problem is shared on both sides? There is a separation of our communities, but why? Though there will always be racist muppets to some extent, this kind of separation is not as prevalent with regards to other ethnic minority groups anymore. Its a given that people will tend to seek out like-minded people and live together, that's just human nature. But a lot of these posts seem to portray the muslim community as an entity that is disparate from the rest of Bolton. Again, its understandable to some extent, because some of the comments on here will certainly not help relations, but surely you have to accept that the problem is not just the fault of the non muslim people of this town? There is bigotry on both sides of the fence. We all have to make an effort to come together to make society work, because it cant work if one section holds another in contempt. dameous
  • Score: 4

10:08am Sun 24 Aug 14

DAUBHILLISRUINED says...

united99 wrote:
Dirty Hamed wrote:
united99 wrote:
DAUBHILLISRUINED wrote:
united99 wrote:
FreedomOfSpeech1945 wrote:
United 99. When the IS declare war on the UK, who's side do you think all the Muslims will be on? We will see Mosques turned in to Military posts, there will be soldiers on our streets because of the IS. Then what? Will you all be 'so friendly'?
Is is not going to declare war on the uk what gives you that idea...
They are to busy in Iraq and Syria !
It's the Eastern Europeans you should be worried about 1945 the way it's going not Isis.
Better start filling them last few churches before they take them over like the Polish have in the church on high street.
That church was bought in 1962 for £20.000 and I know of very few polish that have built or bought more, unlike the muslims who have built countless stupid mosques, takeaways, shops and over run the schools, since sneaking over here
See we don't mind the polish or others who come here in moderation... so you can see why there is an underlying resentment, or hatred for you lot.
The resentment and hatred comes from being jealous and the threat of being overpowered ie why do Asians own all the shops takeaways petrol stations build mosques etc.....
The reason is we get of our backsides and work **** hard to make a living in order for our children to get a decent education for them to be successful in life and contribute to society in a professional manner hence you see Asian doctors nurses accountants solicitors and the list goes on....
You got to have a balance in life it's not all about getting pi55ed on weekends and by Monday you are broke - that's not going to get you any where in life.
Don't waste it you only get one chance in life!
Why is Pakistan such a shathole then ? the only reason you do ok in this country is because of hard working English who have payed in to the system for hundreds of years, and as for contributing dont make me laugh, for every £1 you pay in you take £2 out, Now my smug friend get ready for your trip , the clock is ticking >>>
I always take a holiday at least twice a year and then come back and it's hard work catching criminals -now that should tell you I'm not a taxi driver....
HA HA, You have gone from a taxi driver to a food hygiene ratings inspector giving out 5 stars to every takeaway on daubhill (your words not mine) and now your expecting people to believe your a copper,... we all know your a taxi driver so stick to that one, and make sure you hand over any lost property left in your taxi to the real police :-)
[quote][p][bold]united99[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dirty Hamed[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]united99[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DAUBHILLISRUINED[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]united99[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FreedomOfSpeech1945[/bold] wrote: United 99. When the IS declare war on the UK, who's side do you think all the Muslims will be on? We will see Mosques turned in to Military posts, there will be soldiers on our streets because of the IS. Then what? Will you all be 'so friendly'?[/p][/quote]Is is not going to declare war on the uk what gives you that idea... They are to busy in Iraq and Syria ! It's the Eastern Europeans you should be worried about 1945 the way it's going not Isis. Better start filling them last few churches before they take them over like the Polish have in the church on high street.[/p][/quote]That church was bought in 1962 for £20.000 and I know of very few polish that have built or bought more, unlike the muslims who have built countless stupid mosques, takeaways, shops and over run the schools, since sneaking over here See we don't mind the polish or others who come here in moderation... so you can see why there is an underlying resentment, or hatred for you lot.[/p][/quote]The resentment and hatred comes from being jealous and the threat of being overpowered ie why do Asians own all the shops takeaways petrol stations build mosques etc..... The reason is we get of our backsides and work **** hard to make a living in order for our children to get a decent education for them to be successful in life and contribute to society in a professional manner hence you see Asian doctors nurses accountants solicitors and the list goes on.... You got to have a balance in life it's not all about getting pi55ed on weekends and by Monday you are broke - that's not going to get you any where in life. Don't waste it you only get one chance in life![/p][/quote]Why is Pakistan such a shathole then ? the only reason you do ok in this country is because of hard working English who have payed in to the system for hundreds of years, and as for contributing dont make me laugh, for every £1 you pay in you take £2 out, Now my smug friend get ready for your trip , the clock is ticking >>>[/p][/quote]I always take a holiday at least twice a year and then come back and it's hard work catching criminals -now that should tell you I'm not a taxi driver....[/p][/quote]HA HA, You have gone from a taxi driver to a food hygiene ratings inspector giving out 5 stars to every takeaway on daubhill (your words not mine) and now your expecting people to believe your a copper,... we all know your a taxi driver so stick to that one, and make sure you hand over any lost property left in your taxi to the real police :-) DAUBHILLISRUINED
  • Score: 5

10:49am Sun 24 Aug 14

united99 says...

dameous wrote:
united99 wrote:
Dirty Hamed wrote:
united99 wrote:
DAUBHILLISRUINED wrote:
united99 wrote:
FreedomOfSpeech1945 wrote:
United 99. When the IS declare war on the UK, who's side do you think all the Muslims will be on? We will see Mosques turned in to Military posts, there will be soldiers on our streets because of the IS. Then what? Will you all be 'so friendly'?
Is is not going to declare war on the uk what gives you that idea...
They are to busy in Iraq and Syria !
It's the Eastern Europeans you should be worried about 1945 the way it's going not Isis.
Better start filling them last few churches before they take them over like the Polish have in the church on high street.
That church was bought in 1962 for £20.000 and I know of very few polish that have built or bought more, unlike the muslims who have built countless stupid mosques, takeaways, shops and over run the schools, since sneaking over here
See we don't mind the polish or others who come here in moderation... so you can see why there is an underlying resentment, or hatred for you lot.
The resentment and hatred comes from being jealous and the threat of being overpowered ie why do Asians own all the shops takeaways petrol stations build mosques etc.....
The reason is we get of our backsides and work **** hard to make a living in order for our children to get a decent education for them to be successful in life and contribute to society in a professional manner hence you see Asian doctors nurses accountants solicitors and the list goes on....
You got to have a balance in life it's not all about getting pi55ed on weekends and by Monday you are broke - that's not going to get you any where in life.
Don't waste it you only get one chance in life!
Why is Pakistan such a shathole then ? the only reason you do ok in this country is because of hard working English who have payed in to the system for hundreds of years, and as for contributing dont make me laugh, for every £1 you pay in you take £2 out, Now my smug friend get ready for your trip , the clock is ticking >>>
I always take a holiday at least twice a year and then come back and it's hard work catching criminals -now that should tell you I'm not a taxi driver....
Are you suggesting you are a police officer? Because some of your statements here on this forum (threatening to stop someone breathing if they bad mouthed Islam to your face etc.) would get you in a lot of trouble at work if you are.

I cant help noticing that in a lot of your posts you separate yourself from the rest of the Bolton community. Its not just you, I've seen several different people do the same thing, going on about the differences you perceive between muslims and non muslims, suggesting that Brits just want to get drunk and don't work, or have no education and dubious morals. I can understand this to a point, especially with some of the hateful comments that are levied at the muslim community on here, but do you not think that the problem is shared on both sides? There is a separation of our communities, but why? Though there will always be racist muppets to some extent, this kind of separation is not as prevalent with regards to other ethnic minority groups anymore. Its a given that people will tend to seek out like-minded people and live together, that's just human nature. But a lot of these posts seem to portray the muslim community as an entity that is disparate from the rest of Bolton. Again, its understandable to some extent, because some of the comments on here will certainly not help relations, but surely you have to accept that the problem is not just the fault of the non muslim people of this town? There is bigotry on both sides of the fence. We all have to make an effort to come together to make society work, because it cant work if one section holds another in contempt.
Agree with you on the above - but the racist always jumps on the bandwagon when there is anything to do with Muslims ie building of a mosque etc..why
Anyway I think we've covered that and we'll just have to carry on living together like it or not.
Daubhill man it's all in a days work for me all that anyway I think you confusing the word united with the taxi firm instead of the world famous man united 20
[quote][p][bold]dameous[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]united99[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dirty Hamed[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]united99[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DAUBHILLISRUINED[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]united99[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FreedomOfSpeech1945[/bold] wrote: United 99. When the IS declare war on the UK, who's side do you think all the Muslims will be on? We will see Mosques turned in to Military posts, there will be soldiers on our streets because of the IS. Then what? Will you all be 'so friendly'?[/p][/quote]Is is not going to declare war on the uk what gives you that idea... They are to busy in Iraq and Syria ! It's the Eastern Europeans you should be worried about 1945 the way it's going not Isis. Better start filling them last few churches before they take them over like the Polish have in the church on high street.[/p][/quote]That church was bought in 1962 for £20.000 and I know of very few polish that have built or bought more, unlike the muslims who have built countless stupid mosques, takeaways, shops and over run the schools, since sneaking over here See we don't mind the polish or others who come here in moderation... so you can see why there is an underlying resentment, or hatred for you lot.[/p][/quote]The resentment and hatred comes from being jealous and the threat of being overpowered ie why do Asians own all the shops takeaways petrol stations build mosques etc..... The reason is we get of our backsides and work **** hard to make a living in order for our children to get a decent education for them to be successful in life and contribute to society in a professional manner hence you see Asian doctors nurses accountants solicitors and the list goes on.... You got to have a balance in life it's not all about getting pi55ed on weekends and by Monday you are broke - that's not going to get you any where in life. Don't waste it you only get one chance in life![/p][/quote]Why is Pakistan such a shathole then ? the only reason you do ok in this country is because of hard working English who have payed in to the system for hundreds of years, and as for contributing dont make me laugh, for every £1 you pay in you take £2 out, Now my smug friend get ready for your trip , the clock is ticking >>>[/p][/quote]I always take a holiday at least twice a year and then come back and it's hard work catching criminals -now that should tell you I'm not a taxi driver....[/p][/quote]Are you suggesting you are a police officer? Because some of your statements here on this forum (threatening to stop someone breathing if they bad mouthed Islam to your face etc.) would get you in a lot of trouble at work if you are. I cant help noticing that in a lot of your posts you separate yourself from the rest of the Bolton community. Its not just you, I've seen several different people do the same thing, going on about the differences you perceive between muslims and non muslims, suggesting that Brits just want to get drunk and don't work, or have no education and dubious morals. I can understand this to a point, especially with some of the hateful comments that are levied at the muslim community on here, but do you not think that the problem is shared on both sides? There is a separation of our communities, but why? Though there will always be racist muppets to some extent, this kind of separation is not as prevalent with regards to other ethnic minority groups anymore. Its a given that people will tend to seek out like-minded people and live together, that's just human nature. But a lot of these posts seem to portray the muslim community as an entity that is disparate from the rest of Bolton. Again, its understandable to some extent, because some of the comments on here will certainly not help relations, but surely you have to accept that the problem is not just the fault of the non muslim people of this town? There is bigotry on both sides of the fence. We all have to make an effort to come together to make society work, because it cant work if one section holds another in contempt.[/p][/quote]Agree with you on the above - but the racist always jumps on the bandwagon when there is anything to do with Muslims ie building of a mosque etc..why Anyway I think we've covered that and we'll just have to carry on living together like it or not. Daubhill man it's all in a days work for me all that anyway I think you confusing the word united with the taxi firm instead of the world famous man united 20 united99
  • Score: -2

1:02pm Sun 24 Aug 14

FreedomOfSpeech1945 says...

United99, when IS come over here to wage war on our streets. Can you tell me which side do you think the many many thousands of Muslims will be on?
United99, when IS come over here to wage war on our streets. Can you tell me which side do you think the many many thousands of Muslims will be on? FreedomOfSpeech1945
  • Score: 2

1:08pm Sun 24 Aug 14

united99 says...

FreedomOfSpeech1945 wrote:
United99, when IS come over here to wage war on our streets. Can you tell me which side do you think the many many thousands of Muslims will be on?
1945 Isis will not wage a war on the streets of uk get over it it's not going to happen !
[quote][p][bold]FreedomOfSpeech1945[/bold] wrote: United99, when IS come over here to wage war on our streets. Can you tell me which side do you think the many many thousands of Muslims will be on?[/p][/quote]1945 Isis will not wage a war on the streets of uk get over it it's not going to happen ! united99
  • Score: -2

1:17pm Sun 24 Aug 14

FreedomOfSpeech1945 says...

united99 wrote:
FreedomOfSpeech1945 wrote:
United99, when IS come over here to wage war on our streets. Can you tell me which side do you think the many many thousands of Muslims will be on?
1945 Isis will not wage a war on the streets of uk get over it it's not going to happen !
Yes because you've all got too much to lose. Benefits mainly :D
[quote][p][bold]united99[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FreedomOfSpeech1945[/bold] wrote: United99, when IS come over here to wage war on our streets. Can you tell me which side do you think the many many thousands of Muslims will be on?[/p][/quote]1945 Isis will not wage a war on the streets of uk get over it it's not going to happen ![/p][/quote]Yes because you've all got too much to lose. Benefits mainly :D FreedomOfSpeech1945
  • Score: 2

1:13am Mon 25 Aug 14

united99 says...

FreedomOfSpeech1945 wrote:
united99 wrote:
FreedomOfSpeech1945 wrote:
United99, when IS come over here to wage war on our streets. Can you tell me which side do you think the many many thousands of Muslims will be on?
1945 Isis will not wage a war on the streets of uk get over it it's not going to happen !
Yes because you've all got too much to lose. Benefits mainly :D
Spot on 1945 - those benefits did come in handy when building my kitchen extension lol
[quote][p][bold]FreedomOfSpeech1945[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]united99[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FreedomOfSpeech1945[/bold] wrote: United99, when IS come over here to wage war on our streets. Can you tell me which side do you think the many many thousands of Muslims will be on?[/p][/quote]1945 Isis will not wage a war on the streets of uk get over it it's not going to happen ![/p][/quote]Yes because you've all got too much to lose. Benefits mainly :D[/p][/quote]Spot on 1945 - those benefits did come in handy when building my kitchen extension lol united99
  • Score: -2

2:48pm Mon 25 Aug 14

Djorkaeff's right peg says...

dameous wrote:
united99 wrote:
Dirty Hamed wrote:
united99 wrote:
DAUBHILLISRUINED wrote:
united99 wrote:
FreedomOfSpeech1945 wrote:
United 99. When the IS declare war on the UK, who's side do you think all the Muslims will be on? We will see Mosques turned in to Military posts, there will be soldiers on our streets because of the IS. Then what? Will you all be 'so friendly'?
Is is not going to declare war on the uk what gives you that idea...
They are to busy in Iraq and Syria !
It's the Eastern Europeans you should be worried about 1945 the way it's going not Isis.
Better start filling them last few churches before they take them over like the Polish have in the church on high street.
That church was bought in 1962 for £20.000 and I know of very few polish that have built or bought more, unlike the muslims who have built countless stupid mosques, takeaways, shops and over run the schools, since sneaking over here
See we don't mind the polish or others who come here in moderation... so you can see why there is an underlying resentment, or hatred for you lot.
The resentment and hatred comes from being jealous and the threat of being overpowered ie why do Asians own all the shops takeaways petrol stations build mosques etc.....
The reason is we get of our backsides and work **** hard to make a living in order for our children to get a decent education for them to be successful in life and contribute to society in a professional manner hence you see Asian doctors nurses accountants solicitors and the list goes on....
You got to have a balance in life it's not all about getting pi55ed on weekends and by Monday you are broke - that's not going to get you any where in life.
Don't waste it you only get one chance in life!
Why is Pakistan such a shathole then ? the only reason you do ok in this country is because of hard working English who have payed in to the system for hundreds of years, and as for contributing dont make me laugh, for every £1 you pay in you take £2 out, Now my smug friend get ready for your trip , the clock is ticking >>>
I always take a holiday at least twice a year and then come back and it's hard work catching criminals -now that should tell you I'm not a taxi driver....
Are you suggesting you are a police officer? Because some of your statements here on this forum (threatening to stop someone breathing if they bad mouthed Islam to your face etc.) would get you in a lot of trouble at work if you are.

I cant help noticing that in a lot of your posts you separate yourself from the rest of the Bolton community. Its not just you, I've seen several different people do the same thing, going on about the differences you perceive between muslims and non muslims, suggesting that Brits just want to get drunk and don't work, or have no education and dubious morals. I can understand this to a point, especially with some of the hateful comments that are levied at the muslim community on here, but do you not think that the problem is shared on both sides? There is a separation of our communities, but why? Though there will always be racist muppets to some extent, this kind of separation is not as prevalent with regards to other ethnic minority groups anymore. Its a given that people will tend to seek out like-minded people and live together, that's just human nature. But a lot of these posts seem to portray the muslim community as an entity that is disparate from the rest of Bolton. Again, its understandable to some extent, because some of the comments on here will certainly not help relations, but surely you have to accept that the problem is not just the fault of the non muslim people of this town? There is bigotry on both sides of the fence. We all have to make an effort to come together to make society work, because it cant work if one section holds another in contempt.
Hi, a very truthful and poignant statement you make. Unfortunately, racism, secterianism and other factors make it impossible for there to be a peaceful existence. There are so many different ideologies that poison faiths and nations. Some countries even refuse to acknowledge the existence of others! That is how powerful institutional racism is. A country with almost 80 million people deny the existence based on anothers' faith and race! This is what we are dealing with. The world is racist, it's just that some are more subtle and discreet with how they persecute by it.
[quote][p][bold]dameous[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]united99[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dirty Hamed[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]united99[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DAUBHILLISRUINED[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]united99[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FreedomOfSpeech1945[/bold] wrote: United 99. When the IS declare war on the UK, who's side do you think all the Muslims will be on? We will see Mosques turned in to Military posts, there will be soldiers on our streets because of the IS. Then what? Will you all be 'so friendly'?[/p][/quote]Is is not going to declare war on the uk what gives you that idea... They are to busy in Iraq and Syria ! It's the Eastern Europeans you should be worried about 1945 the way it's going not Isis. Better start filling them last few churches before they take them over like the Polish have in the church on high street.[/p][/quote]That church was bought in 1962 for £20.000 and I know of very few polish that have built or bought more, unlike the muslims who have built countless stupid mosques, takeaways, shops and over run the schools, since sneaking over here See we don't mind the polish or others who come here in moderation... so you can see why there is an underlying resentment, or hatred for you lot.[/p][/quote]The resentment and hatred comes from being jealous and the threat of being overpowered ie why do Asians own all the shops takeaways petrol stations build mosques etc..... The reason is we get of our backsides and work **** hard to make a living in order for our children to get a decent education for them to be successful in life and contribute to society in a professional manner hence you see Asian doctors nurses accountants solicitors and the list goes on.... You got to have a balance in life it's not all about getting pi55ed on weekends and by Monday you are broke - that's not going to get you any where in life. Don't waste it you only get one chance in life![/p][/quote]Why is Pakistan such a shathole then ? the only reason you do ok in this country is because of hard working English who have payed in to the system for hundreds of years, and as for contributing dont make me laugh, for every £1 you pay in you take £2 out, Now my smug friend get ready for your trip , the clock is ticking >>>[/p][/quote]I always take a holiday at least twice a year and then come back and it's hard work catching criminals -now that should tell you I'm not a taxi driver....[/p][/quote]Are you suggesting you are a police officer? Because some of your statements here on this forum (threatening to stop someone breathing if they bad mouthed Islam to your face etc.) would get you in a lot of trouble at work if you are. I cant help noticing that in a lot of your posts you separate yourself from the rest of the Bolton community. Its not just you, I've seen several different people do the same thing, going on about the differences you perceive between muslims and non muslims, suggesting that Brits just want to get drunk and don't work, or have no education and dubious morals. I can understand this to a point, especially with some of the hateful comments that are levied at the muslim community on here, but do you not think that the problem is shared on both sides? There is a separation of our communities, but why? Though there will always be racist muppets to some extent, this kind of separation is not as prevalent with regards to other ethnic minority groups anymore. Its a given that people will tend to seek out like-minded people and live together, that's just human nature. But a lot of these posts seem to portray the muslim community as an entity that is disparate from the rest of Bolton. Again, its understandable to some extent, because some of the comments on here will certainly not help relations, but surely you have to accept that the problem is not just the fault of the non muslim people of this town? There is bigotry on both sides of the fence. We all have to make an effort to come together to make society work, because it cant work if one section holds another in contempt.[/p][/quote]Hi, a very truthful and poignant statement you make. Unfortunately, racism, secterianism and other factors make it impossible for there to be a peaceful existence. There are so many different ideologies that poison faiths and nations. Some countries even refuse to acknowledge the existence of others! That is how powerful institutional racism is. A country with almost 80 million people deny the existence based on anothers' faith and race! This is what we are dealing with. The world is racist, it's just that some are more subtle and discreet with how they persecute by it. Djorkaeff's right peg
  • Score: 1

6:07pm Mon 25 Aug 14

renovatedhouserunner says...

Will be when they keep paying for certain communities to churn out more and more while they don't and won't work or pay taxes. Most houses will be privately owned soon yet mysteriously the council will be paying the majority if not all of the rent.
Will be when they keep paying for certain communities to churn out more and more while they don't and won't work or pay taxes. Most houses will be privately owned soon yet mysteriously the council will be paying the majority if not all of the rent. renovatedhouserunner
  • Score: 1

12:28am Tue 26 Aug 14

le cochon volant says...

The NHS bosses in Bolton and the rest of the the country are using the increase in population, and the increase in longevity due to good health, as a way of scaring people into accepting the governments changes (selling off the NHS ).

That's it pure and simple .

So stop fighting each other, and fight the government and their puppets in Bolton's NHS who are getting awards for complying with the wishes of the government and the privateers, who are going to take over the NHS in Bolton when the proposed super hosptal is built.
The NHS bosses in Bolton and the rest of the the country are using the increase in population, and the increase in longevity due to good health, as a way of scaring people into accepting the governments changes (selling off the NHS ). That's it pure and simple . So stop fighting each other, and fight the government and their puppets in Bolton's NHS who are getting awards for complying with the wishes of the government and the privateers, who are going to take over the NHS in Bolton when the proposed super hosptal is built. le cochon volant
  • Score: 0

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