Astley Bridge residents cannot park outside their own homes because shoppers are using their street instead of The Range car park

A clipped wing mirror in Holland Street

Residents in Holland Street

Residents in Holland Street

An empty car park outside Topps Tiles and The Range

A ParkingEye car park sign at The Range

First published in News The Bolton News: Photograph of the Author by , business editor

RESIDENTS and local councillors are to meet to thrash out a scheme to stop a street in Astley Bridge becoming choked with parked cars and litter.

People living in Holland Street have protested over the volume of cars outside their homes since The Range and other local stores brought in restrictions preventing non-customers leaving vehicles on their car parks.

Crompton ward councillors Guy Harkin, Sufrana Bashir-Ismail and Hanif Darvesh met residents a year ago, but so far no scheme has been put in place to resolve the problem.

Resident Ian Morris, aged 72, said: “Most people in Holland Street appear to prefer a residents’ permit parking scheme.

“We are in the ludicrous situation where people are actually parking outside our homes to shop in The Range, instead of using their car park.

“It’s a crazy situation, because this is not a town centre, but it’s almost as big a problem as it is finding parking in the middle of Bolton.

“Our street is permanently full of cars, even when The Range car park adjacent is completely empty. The street has not been swept or cleaned for more than 12 months and often bins are not emptied because the wagon cannot get into the back street.”

Kevan Larkin, aged 62, added: “The council slogan ‘love Bolton, hate litter’ is becoming a joke round here. It’s more a case of ‘love Bolton, love litter’.

“The street is also being used as a short cut by motorists turning left from Crompton Way on to Blackburn Road — avoiding the traffic lights — which is making the situation worse. Many of our cars have had wing mirrors clipped by passing traffic.

Kevin Holiday, aged 35, said: “The majority of us would not mind even paying for permits to park, if it improved the situation.”

Steve Valentine, aged 54, added: “I dread to think what would happen if there was a major house fire and a fire engine needed to get down here.”

Cllr Harkin said that ward councillors would meet residents again to discuss exactly what kind of scheme would resolve their problems.

He said: “It has to be something which 90 per cent of them agree on. Following our meeting 12 months ago, we approached The Range, and they said it was national policy to stop people who are not customers parking on their properties.

“It’s the same situation at Asda and Lidl, so there is a difficult problem to resolve.

“We started talking about introducing a residents only parking scheme and we agreed to consultation, but unfortunately that process has not taken yet taken place. But we will do it now.”

A Bolton Council spokesman said: “Local councillors raised residents’ concerns about parking on residential streets in Astley Bridge, around The Range, and asked us to come up with any possible solutions.

“We are currently discussing some options with local councillors and are awaiting their feedback before we take any further action.”

A spokesman for ParkingEye said: “We were brought in to manage the car park at The Range as there was a serious problem of motorists parking there but using other facilities.

“The car park is monitored 24 hours a day to prevent such abuse, as well as any potential anti-social behaviour.

“All Range customers get two hours of free parking within store opening hours and there are 29 signs across the car park which clearly detail the terms and conditions of use.

“The vast majority of motorists follow these rules.

“It is clearly signposted that you cannot use the car park outside of the opening hours.”

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7:10am Sat 23 Aug 14

oftbewildered2 says...

It makes no sense for customers not use The Range car park if they are shopping there - 2 hours is ample time to make your purchase and this restriction would affect only those who are not shopping, but who wish to park for longer. I doubt that any of the cars parked in the street belong to legitimate shoppers; it just does not make any sense not to park directly outside the store when you can legitimately do so. However, parking does seem to be an issue, although is it just in this one street? Residents permits do seem to be the way forward.
It makes no sense for customers not use The Range car park if they are shopping there - 2 hours is ample time to make your purchase and this restriction would affect only those who are not shopping, but who wish to park for longer. I doubt that any of the cars parked in the street belong to legitimate shoppers; it just does not make any sense not to park directly outside the store when you can legitimately do so. However, parking does seem to be an issue, although is it just in this one street? Residents permits do seem to be the way forward. oftbewildered2
  • Score: 14

7:56am Sat 23 Aug 14

Delyth says...

A lot of the problems of parking on that street are caused when there is something going on at the church. But that is conveniently not mentioned.
A lot of the problems of parking on that street are caused when there is something going on at the church. But that is conveniently not mentioned. Delyth
  • Score: 21

8:07am Sat 23 Aug 14

Harkin about says...

The problem as said is usually people using the church, or dare I suggest the shops on Blackburn Road. So by applying the councils parking logic we can expect a raft of yellow lines, speed bumps, 20mph signs etc etc which will kill off the smaller shops nearby.
Its a street folks, owned by us all. How many of the houses have more than one car to park ?, I object to public money funding things when a solution is in the hands of the complainers.
The problem as said is usually people using the church, or dare I suggest the shops on Blackburn Road. So by applying the councils parking logic we can expect a raft of yellow lines, speed bumps, 20mph signs etc etc which will kill off the smaller shops nearby. Its a street folks, owned by us all. How many of the houses have more than one car to park ?, I object to public money funding things when a solution is in the hands of the complainers. Harkin about
  • Score: 27

8:07am Sat 23 Aug 14

piszoff says...

if you can fine something to do for more than 2 hours in Astley Bridge you deserve a fine.
if you can fine something to do for more than 2 hours in Astley Bridge you deserve a fine. piszoff
  • Score: 38

8:22am Sat 23 Aug 14

Bolton born n bred says...

DON'T protest too much or you will end up like us permit only parking ,where you have to pay to park outside your own house.
If you have more than one car it becomes costly just lining the councils pockets and the wardens give you tickets any time they like even if you have a valid permit or scratch card.
So my advice park your cars on the range car park til you can park on your own street
DON'T protest too much or you will end up like us permit only parking ,where you have to pay to park outside your own house. If you have more than one car it becomes costly just lining the councils pockets and the wardens give you tickets any time they like even if you have a valid permit or scratch card. So my advice park your cars on the range car park til you can park on your own street Bolton born n bred
  • Score: 21

8:31am Sat 23 Aug 14

1jmcginlay says...

I emphasie with this situation entirely. We have had the same on Leigh Road Daisy Hill. The Bargain Booze had double yellow lines installed in front of it to allow buses to turn around a tight corner by the pub, removing anywhere other than in front of the residents houses for the customers to park. They drop their litter and scratch cards constantly. With no parking for the store the said Bargain Booze was then granted planning to extend its shop into a mini market and to have flats above it. All this with no parking. I'm sure Tesco with their late shop have to consider parking. Complain all you want it will go nowhere they don't care cos the people making the decisions aren't affected they live elsewhere. Bolton council and planning = joke
I emphasie with this situation entirely. We have had the same on Leigh Road Daisy Hill. The Bargain Booze had double yellow lines installed in front of it to allow buses to turn around a tight corner by the pub, removing anywhere other than in front of the residents houses for the customers to park. They drop their litter and scratch cards constantly. With no parking for the store the said Bargain Booze was then granted planning to extend its shop into a mini market and to have flats above it. All this with no parking. I'm sure Tesco with their late shop have to consider parking. Complain all you want it will go nowhere they don't care cos the people making the decisions aren't affected they live elsewhere. Bolton council and planning = joke 1jmcginlay
  • Score: 15

8:31am Sat 23 Aug 14

Boltonspeaker says...

Where can the local business owners park for 6-8 hours?

The Range says you can use the car park for a limited time but after the allocated time you will be fined. Even though the fine isn't true as there is no contract, you still are issued with a fine by letters attending a court case. Far fetched I know but ...not needed.
Where can the local business owners park for 6-8 hours? The Range says you can use the car park for a limited time but after the allocated time you will be fined. Even though the fine isn't true as there is no contract, you still are issued with a fine by letters attending a court case. Far fetched I know but ...not needed. Boltonspeaker
  • Score: 3

8:49am Sat 23 Aug 14

What I think 222 says...

I can understand shops not wanting to provide free parking for people not using their stores, during opening times, but why do they not let people park there when they are closed? If they all allowed that, it would increase goodwill in the area among the residents. Makes sense to me anyway.
I can understand shops not wanting to provide free parking for people not using their stores, during opening times, but why do they not let people park there when they are closed? If they all allowed that, it would increase goodwill in the area among the residents. Makes sense to me anyway. What I think 222
  • Score: 33

9:00am Sat 23 Aug 14

catsden says...

THERE ARE A LOT OF SELFISH AND IGNORANT PEOPLE ABOUT, NO CONSIDERATION WHEN PARKING, THEY JUST DON'T CARE
THERE ARE A LOT OF SELFISH AND IGNORANT PEOPLE ABOUT, NO CONSIDERATION WHEN PARKING, THEY JUST DON'T CARE catsden
  • Score: 23

9:00am Sat 23 Aug 14

Bob Shaftoe says...

Harkin about wrote:
The problem as said is usually people using the church, or dare I suggest the shops on Blackburn Road. So by applying the councils parking logic we can expect a raft of yellow lines, speed bumps, 20mph signs etc etc which will kill off the smaller shops nearby.
Its a street folks, owned by us all. How many of the houses have more than one car to park ?, I object to public money funding things when a solution is in the hands of the complainers.
Well said councilor.
[quote][p][bold]Harkin about[/bold] wrote: The problem as said is usually people using the church, or dare I suggest the shops on Blackburn Road. So by applying the councils parking logic we can expect a raft of yellow lines, speed bumps, 20mph signs etc etc which will kill off the smaller shops nearby. Its a street folks, owned by us all. How many of the houses have more than one car to park ?, I object to public money funding things when a solution is in the hands of the complainers.[/p][/quote]Well said councilor. Bob Shaftoe
  • Score: -9

9:20am Sat 23 Aug 14

I, Ludicrous says...

Do the homeowners of Holland Street own the bit of road outside their houses then? Or is it public highway?
Do the homeowners of Holland Street own the bit of road outside their houses then? Or is it public highway? I, Ludicrous
  • Score: 28

9:38am Sat 23 Aug 14

Harkin about says...

Bob Shaftoe wrote:
Harkin about wrote:
The problem as said is usually people using the church, or dare I suggest the shops on Blackburn Road. So by applying the councils parking logic we can expect a raft of yellow lines, speed bumps, 20mph signs etc etc which will kill off the smaller shops nearby.
Its a street folks, owned by us all. How many of the houses have more than one car to park ?, I object to public money funding things when a solution is in the hands of the complainers.
Well said councilor.
Please please Bob don't confuse me with that raging idiot !,

Also the Range can issue as many parking tickets as they like but none are actually enforceable.
[quote][p][bold]Bob Shaftoe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harkin about[/bold] wrote: The problem as said is usually people using the church, or dare I suggest the shops on Blackburn Road. So by applying the councils parking logic we can expect a raft of yellow lines, speed bumps, 20mph signs etc etc which will kill off the smaller shops nearby. Its a street folks, owned by us all. How many of the houses have more than one car to park ?, I object to public money funding things when a solution is in the hands of the complainers.[/p][/quote]Well said councilor.[/p][/quote]Please please Bob don't confuse me with that raging idiot !, Also the Range can issue as many parking tickets as they like but none are actually enforceable. Harkin about
  • Score: 20

9:41am Sat 23 Aug 14

chammy says...

Do these shops not realise that there are genuine shoppers that need more than 2 hours,as some of these shops have cafes,it would make better sense if people got a ticket free to park and show their reciept,at the store and anyone without a reciept gets a fine,why limit your customers to the 2 hours when you know the longer they are in your stores the more likely they will be to spend with you,These restrictions are costing shops a lot of lost custom. They could even do 1 hours free parking and do passes free for a longer time,why do we have to have these restrictions in all shopping car parks,Then people wonder why shopping online is so popular,Its not the online shopping that ruins the high street its these restrictions that make shoppers shop elsewhere
Do these shops not realise that there are genuine shoppers that need more than 2 hours,as some of these shops have cafes,it would make better sense if people got a ticket free to park and show their reciept,at the store and anyone without a reciept gets a fine,why limit your customers to the 2 hours when you know the longer they are in your stores the more likely they will be to spend with you,These restrictions are costing shops a lot of lost custom. They could even do 1 hours free parking and do passes free for a longer time,why do we have to have these restrictions in all shopping car parks,Then people wonder why shopping online is so popular,Its not the online shopping that ruins the high street its these restrictions that make shoppers shop elsewhere chammy
  • Score: 13

9:56am Sat 23 Aug 14

itsnotthatbad says...

I've parked here plenty of times. Mainly at night to go for a curry. Basically at night you can't Park on the range cos the parking eye will ticket you regardless of length of stay. Daytime parkers are either church or danak dierah or nipping the bank. This has happened for over 10 years but since parking eye came it's just added a few more local business workers who lost their place to park.
I've parked here plenty of times. Mainly at night to go for a curry. Basically at night you can't Park on the range cos the parking eye will ticket you regardless of length of stay. Daytime parkers are either church or danak dierah or nipping the bank. This has happened for over 10 years but since parking eye came it's just added a few more local business workers who lost their place to park. itsnotthatbad
  • Score: 11

10:06am Sat 23 Aug 14

sallyupsteps says...

I wish the residents of Holland street on the Lidl side of Moss Bank way would not park on the pavement. Anyone with a disability cannot use the dropped kerbs.
I wish the residents of Holland street on the Lidl side of Moss Bank way would not park on the pavement. Anyone with a disability cannot use the dropped kerbs. sallyupsteps
  • Score: 21

10:16am Sat 23 Aug 14

Percy Thrower says...

Bunch of NIMBY'S, Bolton council won't put this street under permit only. What they will do is paint it no parking lines and no waiting lines from about 8am to 6pm, which is what they do when residents complain who live near schools. Shot themselves in the foot with this one, the last thing any resident of Bolton should be doing regarding parking, is to get Bolton council involved.
Bunch of NIMBY'S, Bolton council won't put this street under permit only. What they will do is paint it no parking lines and no waiting lines from about 8am to 6pm, which is what they do when residents complain who live near schools. Shot themselves in the foot with this one, the last thing any resident of Bolton should be doing regarding parking, is to get Bolton council involved. Percy Thrower
  • Score: 15

11:16am Sat 23 Aug 14

Gore Seer says...

Delyth wrote:
A lot of the problems of parking on that street are caused when there is something going on at the church. But that is conveniently not mentioned.
Muslim Fridays Out Side Parking On The Streets Causing Chaos, Was Allowed For Years By Police, And Councils, Me Keep Are Pavements For Pedestrians Stop Parking On The Pavement Making Me Walk In The Blinking Road.
[quote][p][bold]Delyth[/bold] wrote: A lot of the problems of parking on that street are caused when there is something going on at the church. But that is conveniently not mentioned.[/p][/quote]Muslim Fridays Out Side Parking On The Streets Causing Chaos, Was Allowed For Years By Police, And Councils, Me Keep Are Pavements For Pedestrians Stop Parking On The Pavement Making Me Walk In The Blinking Road. Gore Seer
  • Score: -37

11:45am Sat 23 Aug 14

Gman13 says...

Bolton born n bred wrote:
DON'T protest too much or you will end up like us permit only parking ,where you have to pay to park outside your own house.
If you have more than one car it becomes costly just lining the councils pockets and the wardens give you tickets any time they like even if you have a valid permit or scratch card.
So my advice park your cars on the range car park til you can park on your own street
Your spot on with that.
[quote][p][bold]Bolton born n bred[/bold] wrote: DON'T protest too much or you will end up like us permit only parking ,where you have to pay to park outside your own house. If you have more than one car it becomes costly just lining the councils pockets and the wardens give you tickets any time they like even if you have a valid permit or scratch card. So my advice park your cars on the range car park til you can park on your own street[/p][/quote]Your spot on with that. Gman13
  • Score: 9

11:47am Sat 23 Aug 14

wsw69 says...

Gore Seer wrote:
Delyth wrote:
A lot of the problems of parking on that street are caused when there is something going on at the church. But that is conveniently not mentioned.
Muslim Fridays Out Side Parking On The Streets Causing Chaos, Was Allowed For Years By Police, And Councils, Me Keep Are Pavements For Pedestrians Stop Parking On The Pavement Making Me Walk In The Blinking Road.
WTF is all that twaddle and 5h1te mubbling on about?

And as a side note in respect of every word starting with a CAPITAL letter, I wouldn't like to see your CV or any reports you write. Completely unreadable.
[quote][p][bold]Gore Seer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Delyth[/bold] wrote: A lot of the problems of parking on that street are caused when there is something going on at the church. But that is conveniently not mentioned.[/p][/quote]Muslim Fridays Out Side Parking On The Streets Causing Chaos, Was Allowed For Years By Police, And Councils, Me Keep Are Pavements For Pedestrians Stop Parking On The Pavement Making Me Walk In The Blinking Road.[/p][/quote]WTF is all that twaddle and 5h1te mubbling on about? And as a side note in respect of every word starting with a CAPITAL letter, I wouldn't like to see your CV or any reports you write. Completely unreadable. wsw69
  • Score: 45

12:04pm Sat 23 Aug 14

Ernagy2 says...

I gave to following observations

1) Parking Eye will put the local Indian restaurant out of business as customers will have no where to park - a meal out usually takes about three hours

2) I've never known the businesses on that car park to be that busy. Why can't they increase the waiting time to three to four hours?

3) Why do they need to close the car park at night anyway?

4) The businesses on Blackburn Road should have objected to Range closing that car park of. Before Range came you could park on that car park for as long as you wanted - B&Q didn't have a problem.

5) Perhaps the businesses along Blackburn Road should be demolished to make way for a car park, if the theatre church is to survive.

6) Perhaps it is the best thing for the theatre church to be knocked down and houses placed there.
I gave to following observations 1) Parking Eye will put the local Indian restaurant out of business as customers will have no where to park - a meal out usually takes about three hours 2) I've never known the businesses on that car park to be that busy. Why can't they increase the waiting time to three to four hours? 3) Why do they need to close the car park at night anyway? 4) The businesses on Blackburn Road should have objected to Range closing that car park of. Before Range came you could park on that car park for as long as you wanted - B&Q didn't have a problem. 5) Perhaps the businesses along Blackburn Road should be demolished to make way for a car park, if the theatre church is to survive. 6) Perhaps it is the best thing for the theatre church to be knocked down and houses placed there. Ernagy2
  • Score: -7

1:04pm Sat 23 Aug 14

did-i-just-say-that says...

Don't count on Cllr Darvesh to do anything. He has a parking issue in his own back street that he's done nothing about for years even though the parking's illegal. He lives on Blackburn Road in the same block as the old Tramways pub. Since its been a bar, virtually everyday, somebody parks with two wheels on the kerb on the corner adjoining Astley Street. Then someone else comes along and does the same. Next thing you know, there are four cars all with two wheels on the kerb and the street then becomes blocked. He's useless just like the rest of them.
Don't count on Cllr Darvesh to do anything. He has a parking issue in his own back street that he's done nothing about for years even though the parking's illegal. He lives on Blackburn Road in the same block as the old Tramways pub. Since its been a bar, virtually everyday, somebody parks with two wheels on the kerb on the corner adjoining Astley Street. Then someone else comes along and does the same. Next thing you know, there are four cars all with two wheels on the kerb and the street then becomes blocked. He's useless just like the rest of them. did-i-just-say-that
  • Score: 9

1:41pm Sat 23 Aug 14

itsnotthatbad says...

Ernagy2 wrote:
I gave to following observations

1) Parking Eye will put the local Indian restaurant out of business as customers will have no where to park - a meal out usually takes about three hours

2) I've never known the businesses on that car park to be that busy. Why can't they increase the waiting time to three to four hours?

3) Why do they need to close the car park at night anyway?

4) The businesses on Blackburn Road should have objected to Range closing that car park of. Before Range came you could park on that car park for as long as you wanted - B&Q didn't have a problem.

5) Perhaps the businesses along Blackburn Road should be demolished to make way for a car park, if the theatre church is to survive.

6) Perhaps it is the best thing for the theatre church to be knocked down and houses placed there.
Pavilion and a couple of others have made a car park for customers due to this. It's in BN archives
[quote][p][bold]Ernagy2[/bold] wrote: I gave to following observations 1) Parking Eye will put the local Indian restaurant out of business as customers will have no where to park - a meal out usually takes about three hours 2) I've never known the businesses on that car park to be that busy. Why can't they increase the waiting time to three to four hours? 3) Why do they need to close the car park at night anyway? 4) The businesses on Blackburn Road should have objected to Range closing that car park of. Before Range came you could park on that car park for as long as you wanted - B&Q didn't have a problem. 5) Perhaps the businesses along Blackburn Road should be demolished to make way for a car park, if the theatre church is to survive. 6) Perhaps it is the best thing for the theatre church to be knocked down and houses placed there.[/p][/quote]Pavilion and a couple of others have made a car park for customers due to this. It's in BN archives itsnotthatbad
  • Score: 7

1:42pm Sat 23 Aug 14

itsnotthatbad says...

Ernagy2 wrote:
I gave to following observations

1) Parking Eye will put the local Indian restaurant out of business as customers will have no where to park - a meal out usually takes about three hours

2) I've never known the businesses on that car park to be that busy. Why can't they increase the waiting time to three to four hours?

3) Why do they need to close the car park at night anyway?

4) The businesses on Blackburn Road should have objected to Range closing that car park of. Before Range came you could park on that car park for as long as you wanted - B&Q didn't have a problem.

5) Perhaps the businesses along Blackburn Road should be demolished to make way for a car park, if the theatre church is to survive.

6) Perhaps it is the best thing for the theatre church to be knocked down and houses placed there.
Pavilion and a couple of others have made a car park for customers due to this. It's in BN archives
[quote][p][bold]Ernagy2[/bold] wrote: I gave to following observations 1) Parking Eye will put the local Indian restaurant out of business as customers will have no where to park - a meal out usually takes about three hours 2) I've never known the businesses on that car park to be that busy. Why can't they increase the waiting time to three to four hours? 3) Why do they need to close the car park at night anyway? 4) The businesses on Blackburn Road should have objected to Range closing that car park of. Before Range came you could park on that car park for as long as you wanted - B&Q didn't have a problem. 5) Perhaps the businesses along Blackburn Road should be demolished to make way for a car park, if the theatre church is to survive. 6) Perhaps it is the best thing for the theatre church to be knocked down and houses placed there.[/p][/quote]Pavilion and a couple of others have made a car park for customers due to this. It's in BN archives itsnotthatbad
  • Score: 1

1:46pm Sat 23 Aug 14

bwfc0210 says...

Hard luck, you don't own the street. Try living in Horwich on match days, idiots abound then, although there's less of 'em nowadays seeing as Dougie n Phil still in charge!
Hard luck, you don't own the street. Try living in Horwich on match days, idiots abound then, although there's less of 'em nowadays seeing as Dougie n Phil still in charge! bwfc0210
  • Score: 9

3:05pm Sat 23 Aug 14

trish1975 says...

any parking ticket that is issued on private land and not by a council traffic wardens or police is unenforceable, the parking company would have to take you to the small claims court to get you to pay up (that's if they win the case) and that would cost them more than the fine is worth.
any parking ticket that is issued on private land and not by a council traffic wardens or police is unenforceable, the parking company would have to take you to the small claims court to get you to pay up (that's if they win the case) and that would cost them more than the fine is worth. trish1975
  • Score: 7

3:25pm Sat 23 Aug 14

goldie47 says...

if one of the councillors lived on this street...it would be sorted
if one of the councillors lived on this street...it would be sorted goldie47
  • Score: 3

5:04pm Sat 23 Aug 14

pradagucci says...

If it was a mosque the comments on here would be in the hundreds already.........NWI are you going to protest outside the range as its causing traffic? Or is it no more protest bcoz we don't have time anymore as footy season has started.
If it was a mosque the comments on here would be in the hundreds already.........NWI are you going to protest outside the range as its causing traffic? Or is it no more protest bcoz we don't have time anymore as footy season has started. pradagucci
  • Score: 0

6:51pm Sat 23 Aug 14

Bob Shaftoe says...

Harkin about wrote:
Bob Shaftoe wrote:
Harkin about wrote:
The problem as said is usually people using the church, or dare I suggest the shops on Blackburn Road. So by applying the councils parking logic we can expect a raft of yellow lines, speed bumps, 20mph signs etc etc which will kill off the smaller shops nearby.
Its a street folks, owned by us all. How many of the houses have more than one car to park ?, I object to public money funding things when a solution is in the hands of the complainers.
Well said councilor.
Please please Bob don't confuse me with that raging idiot !,

Also the Range can issue as many parking tickets as they like but none are actually enforceable.
Sorry, too good to miss but you chose the name, and yes, you're correct, he is an raging idiot!
[quote][p][bold]Harkin about[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bob Shaftoe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Harkin about[/bold] wrote: The problem as said is usually people using the church, or dare I suggest the shops on Blackburn Road. So by applying the councils parking logic we can expect a raft of yellow lines, speed bumps, 20mph signs etc etc which will kill off the smaller shops nearby. Its a street folks, owned by us all. How many of the houses have more than one car to park ?, I object to public money funding things when a solution is in the hands of the complainers.[/p][/quote]Well said councilor.[/p][/quote]Please please Bob don't confuse me with that raging idiot !, Also the Range can issue as many parking tickets as they like but none are actually enforceable.[/p][/quote]Sorry, too good to miss but you chose the name, and yes, you're correct, he is an raging idiot! Bob Shaftoe
  • Score: 2

7:00pm Sat 23 Aug 14

Bob Shaftoe says...

pradagucci wrote:
If it was a mosque the comments on here would be in the hundreds already.........NWI are you going to protest outside the range as its causing traffic? Or is it no more protest bcoz we don't have time anymore as footy season has started.
Yawn.... what are you on about woman?
[quote][p][bold]pradagucci[/bold] wrote: If it was a mosque the comments on here would be in the hundreds already.........NWI are you going to protest outside the range as its causing traffic? Or is it no more protest bcoz we don't have time anymore as footy season has started.[/p][/quote]Yawn.... what are you on about woman? Bob Shaftoe
  • Score: 7

7:35pm Sat 23 Aug 14

EmShambles says...

piszoff wrote:
if you can fine something to do for more than 2 hours in Astley Bridge you deserve a fine.
Love that.
[quote][p][bold]piszoff[/bold] wrote: if you can fine something to do for more than 2 hours in Astley Bridge you deserve a fine.[/p][/quote]Love that. EmShambles
  • Score: 4

7:56pm Sat 23 Aug 14

myfanwy7 says...

Ernagy2 wrote:
I gave to following observations

1) Parking Eye will put the local Indian restaurant out of business as customers will have no where to park - a meal out usually takes about three hours

2) I've never known the businesses on that car park to be that busy. Why can't they increase the waiting time to three to four hours?

3) Why do they need to close the car park at night anyway?

4) The businesses on Blackburn Road should have objected to Range closing that car park of. Before Range came you could park on that car park for as long as you wanted - B&Q didn't have a problem.

5) Perhaps the businesses along Blackburn Road should be demolished to make way for a car park, if the theatre church is to survive.

6) Perhaps it is the best thing for the theatre church to be knocked down and houses placed there.
I have just one observation: The best thing for the theatre church would be for it to be run by the local amateur dramatics community and restored to its valued place in the cultural life of the town.
[quote][p][bold]Ernagy2[/bold] wrote: I gave to following observations 1) Parking Eye will put the local Indian restaurant out of business as customers will have no where to park - a meal out usually takes about three hours 2) I've never known the businesses on that car park to be that busy. Why can't they increase the waiting time to three to four hours? 3) Why do they need to close the car park at night anyway? 4) The businesses on Blackburn Road should have objected to Range closing that car park of. Before Range came you could park on that car park for as long as you wanted - B&Q didn't have a problem. 5) Perhaps the businesses along Blackburn Road should be demolished to make way for a car park, if the theatre church is to survive. 6) Perhaps it is the best thing for the theatre church to be knocked down and houses placed there.[/p][/quote]I have just one observation: The best thing for the theatre church would be for it to be run by the local amateur dramatics community and restored to its valued place in the cultural life of the town. myfanwy7
  • Score: 5

8:00pm Sat 23 Aug 14

WHATAMESSS.66 says...

itsnotthatbad wrote:
Ernagy2 wrote:
I gave to following observations

1) Parking Eye will put the local Indian restaurant out of business as customers will have no where to park - a meal out usually takes about three hours

2) I've never known the businesses on that car park to be that busy. Why can't they increase the waiting time to three to four hours?

3) Why do they need to close the car park at night anyway?

4) The businesses on Blackburn Road should have objected to Range closing that car park of. Before Range came you could park on that car park for as long as you wanted - B&Q didn't have a problem.

5) Perhaps the businesses along Blackburn Road should be demolished to make way for a car park, if the theatre church is to survive.

6) Perhaps it is the best thing for the theatre church to be knocked down and houses placed there.
Pavilion and a couple of others have made a car park for customers due to this. It's in BN archives
I WAS TOLD MANY YEARS AGO, u cant no everything , its not that bad; sad/ how come u do/ in yer DRESS!
[quote][p][bold]itsnotthatbad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ernagy2[/bold] wrote: I gave to following observations 1) Parking Eye will put the local Indian restaurant out of business as customers will have no where to park - a meal out usually takes about three hours 2) I've never known the businesses on that car park to be that busy. Why can't they increase the waiting time to three to four hours? 3) Why do they need to close the car park at night anyway? 4) The businesses on Blackburn Road should have objected to Range closing that car park of. Before Range came you could park on that car park for as long as you wanted - B&Q didn't have a problem. 5) Perhaps the businesses along Blackburn Road should be demolished to make way for a car park, if the theatre church is to survive. 6) Perhaps it is the best thing for the theatre church to be knocked down and houses placed there.[/p][/quote]Pavilion and a couple of others have made a car park for customers due to this. It's in BN archives[/p][/quote]I WAS TOLD MANY YEARS AGO, u cant no everything , its not that bad; sad/ how come u do/ in yer DRESS! WHATAMESSS.66
  • Score: -3

8:14pm Sat 23 Aug 14

LoveBolton says...

Parking permits are the best way forward as long as the residents dont have to pay. When people make comments like anyone can park anywhere you don't own the street etc... well those people most probably don't own a car and don’t have a clue how frustrating it can be on regular basis ( not the odd time ) if you cant find parking in your street especially if you ve just come back from work, shopping etc... its even worse when you have small children. Yeah you can park anywhere but these same people would be complaining if they couldn't find parking in there st on a regular basis.
Parking permits are the best way forward as long as the residents dont have to pay. When people make comments like anyone can park anywhere you don't own the street etc... well those people most probably don't own a car and don’t have a clue how frustrating it can be on regular basis ( not the odd time ) if you cant find parking in your street especially if you ve just come back from work, shopping etc... its even worse when you have small children. Yeah you can park anywhere but these same people would be complaining if they couldn't find parking in there st on a regular basis. LoveBolton
  • Score: 3

8:31pm Sat 23 Aug 14

WHATAMESSS.66 says...

pradagucci wrote:
If it was a mosque the comments on here would be in the hundreds already.........NWI are you going to protest outside the range as its causing traffic? Or is it no more protest bcoz we don't have time anymore as footy season has started.
SHUSHHHHHHHHH! is it racist to mention them pesky MOSQUES.....WHOOOOOO
OOOOOOOH!
[quote][p][bold]pradagucci[/bold] wrote: If it was a mosque the comments on here would be in the hundreds already.........NWI are you going to protest outside the range as its causing traffic? Or is it no more protest bcoz we don't have time anymore as footy season has started.[/p][/quote]SHUSHHHHHHHHH! is it racist to mention them pesky MOSQUES.....WHOOOOOO OOOOOOOH! WHATAMESSS.66
  • Score: -8

10:03pm Sat 23 Aug 14

itsnotthatbad says...

WHATAMESSS.66 wrote:
itsnotthatbad wrote:
Ernagy2 wrote:
I gave to following observations

1) Parking Eye will put the local Indian restaurant out of business as customers will have no where to park - a meal out usually takes about three hours

2) I've never known the businesses on that car park to be that busy. Why can't they increase the waiting time to three to four hours?

3) Why do they need to close the car park at night anyway?

4) The businesses on Blackburn Road should have objected to Range closing that car park of. Before Range came you could park on that car park for as long as you wanted - B&Q didn't have a problem.

5) Perhaps the businesses along Blackburn Road should be demolished to make way for a car park, if the theatre church is to survive.

6) Perhaps it is the best thing for the theatre church to be knocked down and houses placed there.
Pavilion and a couple of others have made a car park for customers due to this. It's in BN archives
I WAS TOLD MANY YEARS AGO, u cant no everything , its not that bad; sad/ how come u do/ in yer DRESS!
You still wanting to see me in a dress sweet cheeks? I'm flattered you went all the way to the Trafford centre and spent your giro on something nice for me. Must have spent ages in Ann summers etc looking for the right thing....
[quote][p][bold]WHATAMESSS.66[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]itsnotthatbad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ernagy2[/bold] wrote: I gave to following observations 1) Parking Eye will put the local Indian restaurant out of business as customers will have no where to park - a meal out usually takes about three hours 2) I've never known the businesses on that car park to be that busy. Why can't they increase the waiting time to three to four hours? 3) Why do they need to close the car park at night anyway? 4) The businesses on Blackburn Road should have objected to Range closing that car park of. Before Range came you could park on that car park for as long as you wanted - B&Q didn't have a problem. 5) Perhaps the businesses along Blackburn Road should be demolished to make way for a car park, if the theatre church is to survive. 6) Perhaps it is the best thing for the theatre church to be knocked down and houses placed there.[/p][/quote]Pavilion and a couple of others have made a car park for customers due to this. It's in BN archives[/p][/quote]I WAS TOLD MANY YEARS AGO, u cant no everything , its not that bad; sad/ how come u do/ in yer DRESS![/p][/quote]You still wanting to see me in a dress sweet cheeks? I'm flattered you went all the way to the Trafford centre and spent your giro on something nice for me. Must have spent ages in Ann summers etc looking for the right thing.... itsnotthatbad
  • Score: 1

10:03pm Sat 23 Aug 14

itsnotthatbad says...

WHATAMESSS.66 wrote:
itsnotthatbad wrote:
Ernagy2 wrote:
I gave to following observations

1) Parking Eye will put the local Indian restaurant out of business as customers will have no where to park - a meal out usually takes about three hours

2) I've never known the businesses on that car park to be that busy. Why can't they increase the waiting time to three to four hours?

3) Why do they need to close the car park at night anyway?

4) The businesses on Blackburn Road should have objected to Range closing that car park of. Before Range came you could park on that car park for as long as you wanted - B&Q didn't have a problem.

5) Perhaps the businesses along Blackburn Road should be demolished to make way for a car park, if the theatre church is to survive.

6) Perhaps it is the best thing for the theatre church to be knocked down and houses placed there.
Pavilion and a couple of others have made a car park for customers due to this. It's in BN archives
I WAS TOLD MANY YEARS AGO, u cant no everything , its not that bad; sad/ how come u do/ in yer DRESS!
You still wanting to see me in a dress sweet cheeks? I'm flattered you went all the way to the Trafford centre and spent your giro on something nice for me. Must have spent ages in Ann summers etc looking for the right thing....
[quote][p][bold]WHATAMESSS.66[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]itsnotthatbad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ernagy2[/bold] wrote: I gave to following observations 1) Parking Eye will put the local Indian restaurant out of business as customers will have no where to park - a meal out usually takes about three hours 2) I've never known the businesses on that car park to be that busy. Why can't they increase the waiting time to three to four hours? 3) Why do they need to close the car park at night anyway? 4) The businesses on Blackburn Road should have objected to Range closing that car park of. Before Range came you could park on that car park for as long as you wanted - B&Q didn't have a problem. 5) Perhaps the businesses along Blackburn Road should be demolished to make way for a car park, if the theatre church is to survive. 6) Perhaps it is the best thing for the theatre church to be knocked down and houses placed there.[/p][/quote]Pavilion and a couple of others have made a car park for customers due to this. It's in BN archives[/p][/quote]I WAS TOLD MANY YEARS AGO, u cant no everything , its not that bad; sad/ how come u do/ in yer DRESS![/p][/quote]You still wanting to see me in a dress sweet cheeks? I'm flattered you went all the way to the Trafford centre and spent your giro on something nice for me. Must have spent ages in Ann summers etc looking for the right thing.... itsnotthatbad
  • Score: -1

11:55pm Sat 23 Aug 14

united99 says...

Bob Shaftoe wrote:
pradagucci wrote:
If it was a mosque the comments on here would be in the hundreds already.........NWI are you going to protest outside the range as its causing traffic? Or is it no more protest bcoz we don't have time anymore as footy season has started.
Yawn.... what are you on about woman?
You know exactly what he's on about bob !!!
[quote][p][bold]Bob Shaftoe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pradagucci[/bold] wrote: If it was a mosque the comments on here would be in the hundreds already.........NWI are you going to protest outside the range as its causing traffic? Or is it no more protest bcoz we don't have time anymore as footy season has started.[/p][/quote]Yawn.... what are you on about woman?[/p][/quote]You know exactly what he's on about bob !!! united99
  • Score: -6

1:07am Sun 24 Aug 14

WHATAMESSS.66 says...

itsnotthatbad wrote:
WHATAMESSS.66 wrote:
itsnotthatbad wrote:
Ernagy2 wrote:
I gave to following observations

1) Parking Eye will put the local Indian restaurant out of business as customers will have no where to park - a meal out usually takes about three hours

2) I've never known the businesses on that car park to be that busy. Why can't they increase the waiting time to three to four hours?

3) Why do they need to close the car park at night anyway?

4) The businesses on Blackburn Road should have objected to Range closing that car park of. Before Range came you could park on that car park for as long as you wanted - B&Q didn't have a problem.

5) Perhaps the businesses along Blackburn Road should be demolished to make way for a car park, if the theatre church is to survive.

6) Perhaps it is the best thing for the theatre church to be knocked down and houses placed there.
Pavilion and a couple of others have made a car park for customers due to this. It's in BN archives
I WAS TOLD MANY YEARS AGO, u cant no everything , its not that bad; sad/ how come u do/ in yer DRESS!
You still wanting to see me in a dress sweet cheeks? I'm flattered you went all the way to the Trafford centre and spent your giro on something nice for me. Must have spent ages in Ann summers etc looking for the right thing....
U SAT IN PAVILION HAVIN A CURRY, IN YER DRESS WITH DORKEFF IN HIS. u couldnt make it up, CLASSIC!
[quote][p][bold]itsnotthatbad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WHATAMESSS.66[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]itsnotthatbad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ernagy2[/bold] wrote: I gave to following observations 1) Parking Eye will put the local Indian restaurant out of business as customers will have no where to park - a meal out usually takes about three hours 2) I've never known the businesses on that car park to be that busy. Why can't they increase the waiting time to three to four hours? 3) Why do they need to close the car park at night anyway? 4) The businesses on Blackburn Road should have objected to Range closing that car park of. Before Range came you could park on that car park for as long as you wanted - B&Q didn't have a problem. 5) Perhaps the businesses along Blackburn Road should be demolished to make way for a car park, if the theatre church is to survive. 6) Perhaps it is the best thing for the theatre church to be knocked down and houses placed there.[/p][/quote]Pavilion and a couple of others have made a car park for customers due to this. It's in BN archives[/p][/quote]I WAS TOLD MANY YEARS AGO, u cant no everything , its not that bad; sad/ how come u do/ in yer DRESS![/p][/quote]You still wanting to see me in a dress sweet cheeks? I'm flattered you went all the way to the Trafford centre and spent your giro on something nice for me. Must have spent ages in Ann summers etc looking for the right thing....[/p][/quote]U SAT IN PAVILION HAVIN A CURRY, IN YER DRESS WITH DORKEFF IN HIS. u couldnt make it up, CLASSIC! WHATAMESSS.66
  • Score: -3

6:07am Sun 24 Aug 14

Allmylife says...

It's a public highway and is available without fear of recrimination to all legitimately taxed and insured vehicles.

The Range has a similar legal right to restrict access on its own land as it prefers.

I don't park on my neighbours drive so if I lived there why should I expect - as of right to park 24/7 on another's land.

Parking has been like this for years. The houses were built before the populous has independent transport.

If residents don't like their environment they are free to move - to a house with parking appropriate to their needs.

This does not and should not warrant Council intervention.
It's a public highway and is available without fear of recrimination to all legitimately taxed and insured vehicles. The Range has a similar legal right to restrict access on its own land as it prefers. I don't park on my neighbours drive so if I lived there why should I expect - as of right to park 24/7 on another's land. Parking has been like this for years. The houses were built before the populous has independent transport. If residents don't like their environment they are free to move - to a house with parking appropriate to their needs. This does not and should not warrant Council intervention. Allmylife
  • Score: 9

10:02am Sun 24 Aug 14

JustBecause says...

trish1975 wrote:
any parking ticket that is issued on private land and not by a council traffic wardens or police is unenforceable, the parking company would have to take you to the small claims court to get you to pay up (that's if they win the case) and that would cost them more than the fine is worth.
Stop with the urban myths, you enter into a contract as soon as you drive on, if your breach that contract in a any way then you get an invoice, civil action is usually taken to recover that payment, although paying early stops civil action taking place, your only way out usually is if the charges are way over the norm, otherwise you will pay.

You will be saying next you don't need car insurance or a tv licence.

Life's tuff, if the council haven't put in restrictions then people can park legally where they want, a guarantee parking in that street is a nightmare anyway because of residents, most households these days have two cars, streets like this were never designed for that.

Answer, move house with a drive :)
[quote][p][bold]trish1975[/bold] wrote: any parking ticket that is issued on private land and not by a council traffic wardens or police is unenforceable, the parking company would have to take you to the small claims court to get you to pay up (that's if they win the case) and that would cost them more than the fine is worth.[/p][/quote]Stop with the urban myths, you enter into a contract as soon as you drive on, if your breach that contract in a any way then you get an invoice, civil action is usually taken to recover that payment, although paying early stops civil action taking place, your only way out usually is if the charges are way over the norm, otherwise you will pay. You will be saying next you don't need car insurance or a tv licence. Life's tuff, if the council haven't put in restrictions then people can park legally where they want, a guarantee parking in that street is a nightmare anyway because of residents, most households these days have two cars, streets like this were never designed for that. Answer, move house with a drive :) JustBecause
  • Score: -1

10:12am Sun 24 Aug 14

mrs philainsy says...

Bob Shaftoe wrote:
pradagucci wrote:
If it was a mosque the comments on here would be in the hundreds already.........NWI are you going to protest outside the range as its causing traffic? Or is it no more protest bcoz we don't have time anymore as footy season has started.
Yawn.... what are you on about woman?
The Woman's obsessed with Mosques!!

Every post she makes, has a cheeky Mosque remark slipped in it.
[quote][p][bold]Bob Shaftoe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pradagucci[/bold] wrote: If it was a mosque the comments on here would be in the hundreds already.........NWI are you going to protest outside the range as its causing traffic? Or is it no more protest bcoz we don't have time anymore as footy season has started.[/p][/quote]Yawn.... what are you on about woman?[/p][/quote]The Woman's obsessed with Mosques!! Every post she makes, has a cheeky Mosque remark slipped in it. mrs philainsy
  • Score: 5

11:43am Sun 24 Aug 14

Rememberscarborough says...

It's clear people are parking there to use businesses that have no parking facilities. Simple answer is to stop using them and spend your money where you don't have to worry about a £30-40 increase in your bill.

No wonder the Middlebrook is favoured by so many of us...
It's clear people are parking there to use businesses that have no parking facilities. Simple answer is to stop using them and spend your money where you don't have to worry about a £30-40 increase in your bill. No wonder the Middlebrook is favoured by so many of us... Rememberscarborough
  • Score: 2

12:22pm Sun 24 Aug 14

trish1975 says...

JustBecause wrote:
trish1975 wrote:
any parking ticket that is issued on private land and not by a council traffic wardens or police is unenforceable, the parking company would have to take you to the small claims court to get you to pay up (that's if they win the case) and that would cost them more than the fine is worth.
Stop with the urban myths, you enter into a contract as soon as you drive on, if your breach that contract in a any way then you get an invoice, civil action is usually taken to recover that payment, although paying early stops civil action taking place, your only way out usually is if the charges are way over the norm, otherwise you will pay.

You will be saying next you don't need car insurance or a tv licence.

Life's tuff, if the council haven't put in restrictions then people can park legally where they want, a guarantee parking in that street is a nightmare anyway because of residents, most households these days have two cars, streets like this were never designed for that.

Answer, move house with a drive :)
It is not an urban myth at all, i have had a parking ticket issued on an Asda car park i looked into their legitimacy of them and found out that as i had not broken any law the company would have to take me to the small claims court to get me to pay the ticket and this would cost them a lot more than the fine is worth.
And for your information i do pay my car insurance and t
v licence and the rest of my household bills.
[quote][p][bold]JustBecause[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]trish1975[/bold] wrote: any parking ticket that is issued on private land and not by a council traffic wardens or police is unenforceable, the parking company would have to take you to the small claims court to get you to pay up (that's if they win the case) and that would cost them more than the fine is worth.[/p][/quote]Stop with the urban myths, you enter into a contract as soon as you drive on, if your breach that contract in a any way then you get an invoice, civil action is usually taken to recover that payment, although paying early stops civil action taking place, your only way out usually is if the charges are way over the norm, otherwise you will pay. You will be saying next you don't need car insurance or a tv licence. Life's tuff, if the council haven't put in restrictions then people can park legally where they want, a guarantee parking in that street is a nightmare anyway because of residents, most households these days have two cars, streets like this were never designed for that. Answer, move house with a drive :)[/p][/quote]It is not an urban myth at all, i have had a parking ticket issued on an Asda car park i looked into their legitimacy of them and found out that as i had not broken any law the company would have to take me to the small claims court to get me to pay the ticket and this would cost them a lot more than the fine is worth. And for your information i do pay my car insurance and t v licence and the rest of my household bills. trish1975
  • Score: 1

2:33pm Sun 24 Aug 14

itsnotthatbad says...

trish1975 wrote:
JustBecause wrote:
trish1975 wrote:
any parking ticket that is issued on private land and not by a council traffic wardens or police is unenforceable, the parking company would have to take you to the small claims court to get you to pay up (that's if they win the case) and that would cost them more than the fine is worth.
Stop with the urban myths, you enter into a contract as soon as you drive on, if your breach that contract in a any way then you get an invoice, civil action is usually taken to recover that payment, although paying early stops civil action taking place, your only way out usually is if the charges are way over the norm, otherwise you will pay.

You will be saying next you don't need car insurance or a tv licence.

Life's tuff, if the council haven't put in restrictions then people can park legally where they want, a guarantee parking in that street is a nightmare anyway because of residents, most households these days have two cars, streets like this were never designed for that.

Answer, move house with a drive :)
It is not an urban myth at all, i have had a parking ticket issued on an Asda car park i looked into their legitimacy of them and found out that as i had not broken any law the company would have to take me to the small claims court to get me to pay the ticket and this would cost them a lot more than the fine is worth.
And for your information i do pay my car insurance and t
v licence and the rest of my household bills.
It's true. If the cost to take to court is greater than the ticket itself they will send a letter stating this. Look on Google. But basically just ignore the letters. It's up to them to prove they sent it not proof it's received so unless by registered post ignore it.
[quote][p][bold]trish1975[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JustBecause[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]trish1975[/bold] wrote: any parking ticket that is issued on private land and not by a council traffic wardens or police is unenforceable, the parking company would have to take you to the small claims court to get you to pay up (that's if they win the case) and that would cost them more than the fine is worth.[/p][/quote]Stop with the urban myths, you enter into a contract as soon as you drive on, if your breach that contract in a any way then you get an invoice, civil action is usually taken to recover that payment, although paying early stops civil action taking place, your only way out usually is if the charges are way over the norm, otherwise you will pay. You will be saying next you don't need car insurance or a tv licence. Life's tuff, if the council haven't put in restrictions then people can park legally where they want, a guarantee parking in that street is a nightmare anyway because of residents, most households these days have two cars, streets like this were never designed for that. Answer, move house with a drive :)[/p][/quote]It is not an urban myth at all, i have had a parking ticket issued on an Asda car park i looked into their legitimacy of them and found out that as i had not broken any law the company would have to take me to the small claims court to get me to pay the ticket and this would cost them a lot more than the fine is worth. And for your information i do pay my car insurance and t v licence and the rest of my household bills.[/p][/quote]It's true. If the cost to take to court is greater than the ticket itself they will send a letter stating this. Look on Google. But basically just ignore the letters. It's up to them to prove they sent it not proof it's received so unless by registered post ignore it. itsnotthatbad
  • Score: 3

9:26pm Sun 24 Aug 14

HighHopes says...

Boltonspeaker wrote:
Where can the local business owners park for 6-8 hours?

The Range says you can use the car park for a limited time but after the allocated time you will be fined. Even though the fine isn't true as there is no contract, you still are issued with a fine by letters attending a court case. Far fetched I know but ...not needed.
This is so true. It is possible to appeal - AND WIN - against unfair parking notices. Check out MoneysavingExpert (http://forums.money
savingexpert.com/sho
wthread.php?t=481682
2) for sample templates on how to do it. I recently had such a notice cancelled by simply following the instructions there.

My point is that there is little point in insulting the residents or the church when they have a genuine problem not of their making and when there is a way to send a message to The Range (and the other businesses there) and also to ParkingEye that their activities are simply underhand and intimidatory.
[quote][p][bold]Boltonspeaker[/bold] wrote: Where can the local business owners park for 6-8 hours? The Range says you can use the car park for a limited time but after the allocated time you will be fined. Even though the fine isn't true as there is no contract, you still are issued with a fine by letters attending a court case. Far fetched I know but ...not needed.[/p][/quote]This is so true. It is possible to appeal - AND WIN - against unfair parking notices. Check out MoneysavingExpert (http://forums.money savingexpert.com/sho wthread.php?t=481682 2) for sample templates on how to do it. I recently had such a notice cancelled by simply following the instructions there. My point is that there is little point in insulting the residents or the church when they have a genuine problem not of their making and when there is a way to send a message to The Range (and the other businesses there) and also to ParkingEye that their activities are simply underhand and intimidatory. HighHopes
  • Score: 0

7:13am Mon 25 Aug 14

Gore Seer says...

wsw69 wrote:
Gore Seer wrote:
Delyth wrote:
A lot of the problems of parking on that street are caused when there is something going on at the church. But that is conveniently not mentioned.
Muslim Fridays Out Side Parking On The Streets Causing Chaos, Was Allowed For Years By Police, And Councils, Me Keep Are Pavements For Pedestrians Stop Parking On The Pavement Making Me Walk In The Blinking Road.
WTF is all that twaddle and 5h1te mubbling on about?

And as a side note in respect of every word starting with a CAPITAL letter, I wouldn't like to see your CV or any reports you write. Completely unreadable.
Blimey I Have A Fan.
[quote][p][bold]wsw69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gore Seer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Delyth[/bold] wrote: A lot of the problems of parking on that street are caused when there is something going on at the church. But that is conveniently not mentioned.[/p][/quote]Muslim Fridays Out Side Parking On The Streets Causing Chaos, Was Allowed For Years By Police, And Councils, Me Keep Are Pavements For Pedestrians Stop Parking On The Pavement Making Me Walk In The Blinking Road.[/p][/quote]WTF is all that twaddle and 5h1te mubbling on about? And as a side note in respect of every word starting with a CAPITAL letter, I wouldn't like to see your CV or any reports you write. Completely unreadable.[/p][/quote]Blimey I Have A Fan. Gore Seer
  • Score: 1
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