Sainsbury's plan for former Green Bengal restaurant in Bromley Cross rejected

The site of the demolished Green Bengal restaurant

The Green Bengal before demolition work began

First published in News The Bolton News: Photograph of the Author by , politics reporter

A COUPLE have declared victory over developers who wanted to turn the former Green Bengal restaurant into a supermarket.

CW Construction appealed to the government to overturn a decision by Bolton Council’s planning committee.

The council turned down the proposals to build a Sainsbury’s, two shops and a car park at the site in Darwen Road, Bromley Cross.

But the Planning Inspector-ate has dismissed CW Construction’s appeal, arguing the new complex would have dominated Eddie and Evelyn Kilner’s house in Lords Stile Lane.

Mr Kilner, aged 75, said he was very pleased with the result. He added: “The developers wouldn’t shift the building. They just wanted to block all our light out.

“I’ve lived in this house for 51 years. When I asked the builder to change the plans, he said he wouldn’t change his plans for anybody.

“The sun is still high in the sky, but when winter comes it goes much lower. We would be in darkness all day.”

The Green Bengal, formerly the Volunteer Inn, has already been knocked down after a separate demolition order was approved.

Bromley Cross councillors had also objected to the scheme, arguing there was not enough car parking provision, which could lead to more vehicles being left on residential roads and putting pedestrians at risk.

In her report, planning inspector Victoria Lucas-Gosnold said she believed there was enough spaces in the car park — but upheld the complaint by Mr Kilner.

She added: “The proposal would result in a large building in very close proximity to number nine that would extend along almost the entire length of the side boundary of that dwelling.

“It would dominate the outlook when viewed from the ground floor bedroom, office and rear garden and would harmfully detract from the light and open aspect which those areas currently benefit from.

“For the same reasons, the proposal would also result in a loss of daylight to those rooms when using those areas for activities such as sitting in or relaxing.”

Cllr Norman Critchley, Bromley Cross councillor and a planning committee member, welcomed the decision.

He said: “Justice has been done. The impact on Mr and Mrs Kilner would have been unacceptable.

“I do disagree with what the inspector said with regards to parking, but she has made a ruling and that’s it.

“The three councillors in Bromley Cross did suggest some stone cottages along Darwen Road and also to retain the building to put some additional shop units and make a boutique-type offer, but that option has now gone because the building is not there.

“If the owner of the site wants to put a supermarket on there then that’s their choice, but they will have to keep in mind the surrounding environment and the kind of restrictions the inspector has laid down.”

Before it was an Indian restaurant, the site was a landmark pub.

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8:17am Fri 29 Aug 14

Ytarmy1958 says...

Victory for common sense!
Victory for common sense! Ytarmy1958
  • Score: 43

8:28am Fri 29 Aug 14

pradagucci says...

Oh well, it's the locals who are losing out. I'm sure a smaller version could and still be agreed. Another small supermarket is defo needed in the area. I guess the coop will just continue to rip everyone off. Well done!!!!
Oh well, it's the locals who are losing out. I'm sure a smaller version could and still be agreed. Another small supermarket is defo needed in the area. I guess the coop will just continue to rip everyone off. Well done!!!! pradagucci
  • Score: -38

8:41am Fri 29 Aug 14

JustBecause says...

More evidence of rules not equal across the board. The mosque on Egerton street has exactly the same arguments,:

Too close to existing buildings
No parking
To high
Light issues

And ONE couple would have been effected by this development and it's been stopped, hundreds effected on egerton street.
More evidence of rules not equal across the board. The mosque on Egerton street has exactly the same arguments,: Too close to existing buildings No parking To high Light issues And ONE couple would have been effected by this development and it's been stopped, hundreds effected on egerton street. JustBecause
  • Score: 57

8:43am Fri 29 Aug 14

itsnotthatbad says...

pradagucci wrote:
Oh well, it's the locals who are losing out. I'm sure a smaller version could and still be agreed. Another small supermarket is defo needed in the area. I guess the coop will just continue to rip everyone off. Well done!!!!
Obviously a word you're not familiar with is saturation! People don't mind crossing the road to shop. If people want cheaper shopping they'll do what everyone else does and go supermarket.. Don't need saturation of shops everywhere like halaliwell, where everyone's so lazy they build a mosque on their side of the road just so they don't have to cross to the one 100ft away...
[quote][p][bold]pradagucci[/bold] wrote: Oh well, it's the locals who are losing out. I'm sure a smaller version could and still be agreed. Another small supermarket is defo needed in the area. I guess the coop will just continue to rip everyone off. Well done!!!![/p][/quote]Obviously a word you're not familiar with is saturation! People don't mind crossing the road to shop. If people want cheaper shopping they'll do what everyone else does and go supermarket.. Don't need saturation of shops everywhere like halaliwell, where everyone's so lazy they build a mosque on their side of the road just so they don't have to cross to the one 100ft away... itsnotthatbad
  • Score: 33

8:55am Fri 29 Aug 14

alexinhorwich says...

Obviously it doesn't matter and the argument of domination of the local area becomes null and void when it comes a mosque requiring planning permission.
Obviously it doesn't matter and the argument of domination of the local area becomes null and void when it comes a mosque requiring planning permission. alexinhorwich
  • Score: 37

9:01am Fri 29 Aug 14

Bilulek says...

What saturation??? There would be two small supermarkets, hardly saturation. Plus that comment about people not minding crossing the road....what's that about? Both would be on the same side of Darwen road anyway!!
Hope the couple is now happy with the light in their house and a fantastic view out their windows. Adds to the beauty of the village.....a large land of nothing!!!!
What saturation??? There would be two small supermarkets, hardly saturation. Plus that comment about people not minding crossing the road....what's that about? Both would be on the same side of Darwen road anyway!! Hope the couple is now happy with the light in their house and a fantastic view out their windows. Adds to the beauty of the village.....a large land of nothing!!!! Bilulek
  • Score: -37

9:12am Fri 29 Aug 14

itsnotthatbad says...

Bilulek wrote:
What saturation??? There would be two small supermarkets, hardly saturation. Plus that comment about people not minding crossing the road....what's that about? Both would be on the same side of Darwen road anyway!!
Hope the couple is now happy with the light in their house and a fantastic view out their windows. Adds to the beauty of the village.....a large land of nothing!!!!
This is where it starts.... Snowball effect. Keep a nice area nice not turn into another Bolton ghetto.
[quote][p][bold]Bilulek[/bold] wrote: What saturation??? There would be two small supermarkets, hardly saturation. Plus that comment about people not minding crossing the road....what's that about? Both would be on the same side of Darwen road anyway!! Hope the couple is now happy with the light in their house and a fantastic view out their windows. Adds to the beauty of the village.....a large land of nothing!!!![/p][/quote]This is where it starts.... Snowball effect. Keep a nice area nice not turn into another Bolton ghetto. itsnotthatbad
  • Score: 27

9:24am Fri 29 Aug 14

Bilulek says...

itsnotthatbad wrote:
Bilulek wrote:
What saturation??? There would be two small supermarkets, hardly saturation. Plus that comment about people not minding crossing the road....what's that about? Both would be on the same side of Darwen road anyway!!
Hope the couple is now happy with the light in their house and a fantastic view out their windows. Adds to the beauty of the village.....a large land of nothing!!!!
This is where it starts.... Snowball effect. Keep a nice area nice not turn into another Bolton ghetto.
Exaggerating aren't we? It's inly one shop!!! We need it more here than more cottages as suggested by the local councillors.
[quote][p][bold]itsnotthatbad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bilulek[/bold] wrote: What saturation??? There would be two small supermarkets, hardly saturation. Plus that comment about people not minding crossing the road....what's that about? Both would be on the same side of Darwen road anyway!! Hope the couple is now happy with the light in their house and a fantastic view out their windows. Adds to the beauty of the village.....a large land of nothing!!!![/p][/quote]This is where it starts.... Snowball effect. Keep a nice area nice not turn into another Bolton ghetto.[/p][/quote]Exaggerating aren't we? It's inly one shop!!! We need it more here than more cottages as suggested by the local councillors. Bilulek
  • Score: -32

9:45am Fri 29 Aug 14

pradagucci says...

itsnotthatbad wrote:
pradagucci wrote:
Oh well, it's the locals who are losing out. I'm sure a smaller version could and still be agreed. Another small supermarket is defo needed in the area. I guess the coop will just continue to rip everyone off. Well done!!!!
Obviously a word you're not familiar with is saturation! People don't mind crossing the road to shop. If people want cheaper shopping they'll do what everyone else does and go supermarket.. Don't need saturation of shops everywhere like halaliwell, where everyone's so lazy they build a mosque on their side of the road just so they don't have to cross to the one 100ft away...
Hmmmmm I'm trying to see these mosques in Bolton every 100ft...........mayb
e your getting confused, I can see run down pubs every 100ft oh and not to forget I can also see derilic, empty, unused good for nothing churches every 100ft also..........!
[quote][p][bold]itsnotthatbad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pradagucci[/bold] wrote: Oh well, it's the locals who are losing out. I'm sure a smaller version could and still be agreed. Another small supermarket is defo needed in the area. I guess the coop will just continue to rip everyone off. Well done!!!![/p][/quote]Obviously a word you're not familiar with is saturation! People don't mind crossing the road to shop. If people want cheaper shopping they'll do what everyone else does and go supermarket.. Don't need saturation of shops everywhere like halaliwell, where everyone's so lazy they build a mosque on their side of the road just so they don't have to cross to the one 100ft away...[/p][/quote]Hmmmmm I'm trying to see these mosques in Bolton every 100ft...........mayb e your getting confused, I can see run down pubs every 100ft oh and not to forget I can also see derilic, empty, unused good for nothing churches every 100ft also..........! pradagucci
  • Score: -12

9:48am Fri 29 Aug 14

pradagucci says...

itsnotthatbad wrote:
Bilulek wrote:
What saturation??? There would be two small supermarkets, hardly saturation. Plus that comment about people not minding crossing the road....what's that about? Both would be on the same side of Darwen road anyway!!
Hope the couple is now happy with the light in their house and a fantastic view out their windows. Adds to the beauty of the village.....a large land of nothing!!!!
This is where it starts.... Snowball effect. Keep a nice area nice not turn into another Bolton ghetto.
What's so nice about bromley cross????? A nice area is due to the people not by its sorroundings. I went college in bromley cross and it's the most boring part of Bolton. Like the other brother says.......I hope the couple enjoy the view from their balcony.......most likely some travellers will come and park up on the land!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]itsnotthatbad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bilulek[/bold] wrote: What saturation??? There would be two small supermarkets, hardly saturation. Plus that comment about people not minding crossing the road....what's that about? Both would be on the same side of Darwen road anyway!! Hope the couple is now happy with the light in their house and a fantastic view out their windows. Adds to the beauty of the village.....a large land of nothing!!!![/p][/quote]This is where it starts.... Snowball effect. Keep a nice area nice not turn into another Bolton ghetto.[/p][/quote]What's so nice about bromley cross????? A nice area is due to the people not by its sorroundings. I went college in bromley cross and it's the most boring part of Bolton. Like the other brother says.......I hope the couple enjoy the view from their balcony.......most likely some travellers will come and park up on the land!!!!! pradagucci
  • Score: -37

10:56am Fri 29 Aug 14

rikhin says...

To be fair, I'm not too bothered what they build there as long as it's within reason. That site has been there far too long now for it to still remain a mystery. OK, it may block some peoples light in their houses.... then make it smaller (how big was this village supermarket going to be!?). I'm just worried it's going to go back to the drawing board and Bromley Cross will look like a building site for months to come.

Personally, I vote for a 70's style Roller Disco.
To be fair, I'm not too bothered what they build there as long as it's within reason. That site has been there far too long now for it to still remain a mystery. OK, it may block some peoples light in their houses.... then make it smaller (how big was this village supermarket going to be!?). I'm just worried it's going to go back to the drawing board and Bromley Cross will look like a building site for months to come. Personally, I vote for a 70's style Roller Disco. rikhin
  • Score: -3

12:31pm Fri 29 Aug 14

waterbottle says...

Nice place to build a mosque muslim community should purchase that land for the future, I'm sure next 10-15 yrs they will have moved into Bromley Cross.
Nice place to build a mosque muslim community should purchase that land for the future, I'm sure next 10-15 yrs they will have moved into Bromley Cross. waterbottle
  • Score: 11

12:54pm Fri 29 Aug 14

tillyflop53 says...

Bilulek wrote:
What saturation??? There would be two small supermarkets, hardly saturation. Plus that comment about people not minding crossing the road....what's that about? Both would be on the same side of Darwen road anyway!!
Hope the couple is now happy with the light in their house and a fantastic view out their windows. Adds to the beauty of the village.....a large land of nothing!!!!
Better a land of nothing than yet more shops !!!! it makes a refreshing change to see justice done for once, i bet you would do exactly same if it was on your doorstep!!!
[quote][p][bold]Bilulek[/bold] wrote: What saturation??? There would be two small supermarkets, hardly saturation. Plus that comment about people not minding crossing the road....what's that about? Both would be on the same side of Darwen road anyway!! Hope the couple is now happy with the light in their house and a fantastic view out their windows. Adds to the beauty of the village.....a large land of nothing!!!![/p][/quote]Better a land of nothing than yet more shops !!!! it makes a refreshing change to see justice done for once, i bet you would do exactly same if it was on your doorstep!!! tillyflop53
  • Score: 19

12:57pm Fri 29 Aug 14

cliff4treasurer says...

pradagucci wrote:
itsnotthatbad wrote:
pradagucci wrote:
Oh well, it's the locals who are losing out. I'm sure a smaller version could and still be agreed. Another small supermarket is defo needed in the area. I guess the coop will just continue to rip everyone off. Well done!!!!
Obviously a word you're not familiar with is saturation! People don't mind crossing the road to shop. If people want cheaper shopping they'll do what everyone else does and go supermarket.. Don't need saturation of shops everywhere like halaliwell, where everyone's so lazy they build a mosque on their side of the road just so they don't have to cross to the one 100ft away...
Hmmmmm I'm trying to see these mosques in Bolton every 100ft...........mayb

e your getting confused, I can see run down pubs every 100ft oh and not to forget I can also see derilic, empty, unused good for nothing churches every 100ft also..........!
Still Preferable to a mosque every 100 ft
[quote][p][bold]pradagucci[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]itsnotthatbad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pradagucci[/bold] wrote: Oh well, it's the locals who are losing out. I'm sure a smaller version could and still be agreed. Another small supermarket is defo needed in the area. I guess the coop will just continue to rip everyone off. Well done!!!![/p][/quote]Obviously a word you're not familiar with is saturation! People don't mind crossing the road to shop. If people want cheaper shopping they'll do what everyone else does and go supermarket.. Don't need saturation of shops everywhere like halaliwell, where everyone's so lazy they build a mosque on their side of the road just so they don't have to cross to the one 100ft away...[/p][/quote]Hmmmmm I'm trying to see these mosques in Bolton every 100ft...........mayb e your getting confused, I can see run down pubs every 100ft oh and not to forget I can also see derilic, empty, unused good for nothing churches every 100ft also..........![/p][/quote]Still Preferable to a mosque every 100 ft cliff4treasurer
  • Score: 18

1:01pm Fri 29 Aug 14

HellBunny says...

They should of kept the original building, maybe extended it or given it a nice outdoor area. One thing missing from Bromley Cross is a nice family orientated pub, not another local shop. If people aren't happy with paying the prices in the co-op then morrisons,asda,lidl are only a stones throw away. Parking is a nightmare in the immediate area of this land, it's a pain trying to fight for a parking space.
They should of kept the original building, maybe extended it or given it a nice outdoor area. One thing missing from Bromley Cross is a nice family orientated pub, not another local shop. If people aren't happy with paying the prices in the co-op then morrisons,asda,lidl are only a stones throw away. Parking is a nightmare in the immediate area of this land, it's a pain trying to fight for a parking space. HellBunny
  • Score: 21

3:20pm Fri 29 Aug 14

itsnotthatbad says...

pradagucci wrote:
itsnotthatbad wrote:
pradagucci wrote:
Oh well, it's the locals who are losing out. I'm sure a smaller version could and still be agreed. Another small supermarket is defo needed in the area. I guess the coop will just continue to rip everyone off. Well done!!!!
Obviously a word you're not familiar with is saturation! People don't mind crossing the road to shop. If people want cheaper shopping they'll do what everyone else does and go supermarket.. Don't need saturation of shops everywhere like halaliwell, where everyone's so lazy they build a mosque on their side of the road just so they don't have to cross to the one 100ft away...
Hmmmmm I'm trying to see these mosques in Bolton every 100ft...........mayb

e your getting confused, I can see run down pubs every 100ft oh and not to forget I can also see derilic, empty, unused good for nothing churches every 100ft also..........!
And i can see from the description you mean halliwell, the latest ghetto thanks to mass immigration. Pubs close as people who lived there have moved. its called "white flight" same with churches etc and the only surviving shops are takeaways for the hungry masses leaving call to prayer and money transfer shops that also offer veg etc. as for every 100 fty maybe a bit exaggerated, but not far off. got the bottom of the rd ,escrick st ,blackburn rd(accessed via wolfenden so still in eyes sight of halliwell) but back to the story you see no harm as this is stuff you like as you welcome change due to lack of heritage, i welcome beneficial change that doesnt lose our heritage. its called being patriotic. I like england the way it is. why keep changing it to suit people who werent a part of this countries past. can we change things overseas?? no. I embrace change for the good not change for the greed which is all Cliff and labour have done for this place. they cant be sneaky in bromley cross like astley bridge or halliwell.
[quote][p][bold]pradagucci[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]itsnotthatbad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pradagucci[/bold] wrote: Oh well, it's the locals who are losing out. I'm sure a smaller version could and still be agreed. Another small supermarket is defo needed in the area. I guess the coop will just continue to rip everyone off. Well done!!!![/p][/quote]Obviously a word you're not familiar with is saturation! People don't mind crossing the road to shop. If people want cheaper shopping they'll do what everyone else does and go supermarket.. Don't need saturation of shops everywhere like halaliwell, where everyone's so lazy they build a mosque on their side of the road just so they don't have to cross to the one 100ft away...[/p][/quote]Hmmmmm I'm trying to see these mosques in Bolton every 100ft...........mayb e your getting confused, I can see run down pubs every 100ft oh and not to forget I can also see derilic, empty, unused good for nothing churches every 100ft also..........![/p][/quote]And i can see from the description you mean halliwell, the latest ghetto thanks to mass immigration. Pubs close as people who lived there have moved. its called "white flight" same with churches etc and the only surviving shops are takeaways for the hungry masses leaving call to prayer and money transfer shops that also offer veg etc. as for every 100 fty maybe a bit exaggerated, but not far off. got the bottom of the rd ,escrick st ,blackburn rd(accessed via wolfenden so still in eyes sight of halliwell) but back to the story you see no harm as this is stuff you like as you welcome change due to lack of heritage, i welcome beneficial change that doesnt lose our heritage. its called being patriotic. I like england the way it is. why keep changing it to suit people who werent a part of this countries past. can we change things overseas?? no. I embrace change for the good not change for the greed which is all Cliff and labour have done for this place. they cant be sneaky in bromley cross like astley bridge or halliwell. itsnotthatbad
  • Score: 24

5:09pm Fri 29 Aug 14

tenaciousp says...

I live over the road from the site and am disappointed that this plan won't be going ahead, they have demolished the old building, car parking is now at a premium, the site is a mess and now and is likely to be for some time. I am concerned at what will now be built, if anything, as it appears that we are pandering to a couple of old age pensioners who lets face it might not be around that much longer - I can't think that their view was much better when the Green Bengal was there to be honest, it was a dump and at least a retailer like Sainsburys would have had a vested interested in keeping the location clean - NIMBYism at its best. I have lived in Bromley Cross for 20 years and have seen its steady demise. The not so closet racists I see have managed to hijack the original post.
I live over the road from the site and am disappointed that this plan won't be going ahead, they have demolished the old building, car parking is now at a premium, the site is a mess and now and is likely to be for some time. I am concerned at what will now be built, if anything, as it appears that we are pandering to a couple of old age pensioners who lets face it might not be around that much longer - I can't think that their view was much better when the Green Bengal was there to be honest, it was a dump and at least a retailer like Sainsburys would have had a vested interested in keeping the location clean - NIMBYism at its best. I have lived in Bromley Cross for 20 years and have seen its steady demise. The not so closet racists I see have managed to hijack the original post. tenaciousp
  • Score: -6

5:19pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Alan at the Ship says...

I think Mr & Mrs Kilner have the right to live in the natural surrounding they are used to, if I had the money I would apply to build a wonderful natural single storey stone premises with a view to opening a high class coffee house much needed in Bromley Cross. This would provide ample parking and would be popular with Rail passengers, shoppers and the community as a whole. I lived in Bromley Cross for a long time and the Co-op is pricey because it's handy, a trip to the big boys for a shop is far easier and cheaper, so for me another mini-market was a non starter!!
I think Mr & Mrs Kilner have the right to live in the natural surrounding they are used to, if I had the money I would apply to build a wonderful natural single storey stone premises with a view to opening a high class coffee house much needed in Bromley Cross. This would provide ample parking and would be popular with Rail passengers, shoppers and the community as a whole. I lived in Bromley Cross for a long time and the Co-op is pricey because it's handy, a trip to the big boys for a shop is far easier and cheaper, so for me another mini-market was a non starter!! Alan at the Ship
  • Score: 10

6:45pm Fri 29 Aug 14

pradagucci says...

waterbottle wrote:
Nice place to build a mosque muslim community should purchase that land for the future, I'm sure next 10-15 yrs they will have moved into Bromley Cross.
Muslims already live in bromley cross.......I know a couple who just purchased a property there also......However I don't think a new mosque in that area is on the cards.........maybe one day. Amen!
[quote][p][bold]waterbottle[/bold] wrote: Nice place to build a mosque muslim community should purchase that land for the future, I'm sure next 10-15 yrs they will have moved into Bromley Cross.[/p][/quote]Muslims already live in bromley cross.......I know a couple who just purchased a property there also......However I don't think a new mosque in that area is on the cards.........maybe one day. Amen! pradagucci
  • Score: -7

6:47pm Fri 29 Aug 14

united99 says...

Some people are crying again as to why a mosque is allowed to be built and not a supermarket on the same issues...ask the planning committee they will tell you why !
Bad news for you guys we are looking to build more - there's no better sight than seeing a mosque dome and minaret what a sight.
Give it 5 years and Bromley cross will have one lol
Some people are crying again as to why a mosque is allowed to be built and not a supermarket on the same issues...ask the planning committee they will tell you why ! Bad news for you guys we are looking to build more - there's no better sight than seeing a mosque dome and minaret what a sight. Give it 5 years and Bromley cross will have one lol united99
  • Score: -9

6:54pm Fri 29 Aug 14

bluemeanie63 says...

pradagucci wrote:
itsnotthatbad wrote:
pradagucci wrote:
Oh well, it's the locals who are losing out. I'm sure a smaller version could and still be agreed. Another small supermarket is defo needed in the area. I guess the coop will just continue to rip everyone off. Well done!!!!
Obviously a word you're not familiar with is saturation! People don't mind crossing the road to shop. If people want cheaper shopping they'll do what everyone else does and go supermarket.. Don't need saturation of shops everywhere like halaliwell, where everyone's so lazy they build a mosque on their side of the road just so they don't have to cross to the one 100ft away...
Hmmmmm I'm trying to see these mosques in Bolton every 100ft...........mayb

e your getting confused, I can see run down pubs every 100ft oh and not to forget I can also see derilic, empty, unused good for nothing churches every 100ft also..........!
I really wish you would grow a pair and join your Muslim mates in Iraq, your comments on here really do annoy
[quote][p][bold]pradagucci[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]itsnotthatbad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pradagucci[/bold] wrote: Oh well, it's the locals who are losing out. I'm sure a smaller version could and still be agreed. Another small supermarket is defo needed in the area. I guess the coop will just continue to rip everyone off. Well done!!!![/p][/quote]Obviously a word you're not familiar with is saturation! People don't mind crossing the road to shop. If people want cheaper shopping they'll do what everyone else does and go supermarket.. Don't need saturation of shops everywhere like halaliwell, where everyone's so lazy they build a mosque on their side of the road just so they don't have to cross to the one 100ft away...[/p][/quote]Hmmmmm I'm trying to see these mosques in Bolton every 100ft...........mayb e your getting confused, I can see run down pubs every 100ft oh and not to forget I can also see derilic, empty, unused good for nothing churches every 100ft also..........![/p][/quote]I really wish you would grow a pair and join your Muslim mates in Iraq, your comments on here really do annoy bluemeanie63
  • Score: 9

7:23pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Ardvark says...

Build a Jihadist pub and call it The Volunteer.
Build a Jihadist pub and call it The Volunteer. Ardvark
  • Score: 5

8:12pm Fri 29 Aug 14

willywonker says...

Use the land for a COOP car park
Use the land for a COOP car park willywonker
  • Score: 6

8:17pm Fri 29 Aug 14

dennis11* says...

pradagucci wrote:
itsnotthatbad wrote:
pradagucci wrote:
Oh well, it's the locals who are losing out. I'm sure a smaller version could and still be agreed. Another small supermarket is defo needed in the area. I guess the coop will just continue to rip everyone off. Well done!!!!
Obviously a word you're not familiar with is saturation! People don't mind crossing the road to shop. If people want cheaper shopping they'll do what everyone else does and go supermarket.. Don't need saturation of shops everywhere like halaliwell, where everyone's so lazy they build a mosque on their side of the road just so they don't have to cross to the one 100ft away...
Hmmmmm I'm trying to see these mosques in Bolton every 100ft...........mayb

e your getting confused, I can see run down pubs every 100ft oh and not to forget I can also see derilic, empty, unused good for nothing churches every 100ft also..........!
try using a dictionary for your spelling before writing on a site viewed by the public. It gives your comment more credence!
[quote][p][bold]pradagucci[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]itsnotthatbad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pradagucci[/bold] wrote: Oh well, it's the locals who are losing out. I'm sure a smaller version could and still be agreed. Another small supermarket is defo needed in the area. I guess the coop will just continue to rip everyone off. Well done!!!![/p][/quote]Obviously a word you're not familiar with is saturation! People don't mind crossing the road to shop. If people want cheaper shopping they'll do what everyone else does and go supermarket.. Don't need saturation of shops everywhere like halaliwell, where everyone's so lazy they build a mosque on their side of the road just so they don't have to cross to the one 100ft away...[/p][/quote]Hmmmmm I'm trying to see these mosques in Bolton every 100ft...........mayb e your getting confused, I can see run down pubs every 100ft oh and not to forget I can also see derilic, empty, unused good for nothing churches every 100ft also..........![/p][/quote]try using a dictionary for your spelling before writing on a site viewed by the public. It gives your comment more credence! dennis11*
  • Score: 6

8:21pm Fri 29 Aug 14

artistpaint says...

Good riddence we have enough of these mega biscuit tins
Good riddence we have enough of these mega biscuit tins artistpaint
  • Score: 0

8:24pm Fri 29 Aug 14

dennis11* says...

'Good for nothing churches'.....come on the good people of Bolton!! I include those who go to church every week, those who have their babies christened; those whose children attend a church school; the couples who get married; those who sadly sat goodbye to their loved ones. And also anyone who attends a group/club or anything else in their church building. 'GOOD FOR NOTHING'???? Haha, don't think so.
'Good for nothing churches'.....come on the good people of Bolton!! I include those who go to church every week, those who have their babies christened; those whose children attend a church school; the couples who get married; those who sadly sat goodbye to their loved ones. And also anyone who attends a group/club or anything else in their church building. 'GOOD FOR NOTHING'???? Haha, don't think so. dennis11*
  • Score: 3

8:24pm Fri 29 Aug 14

artistpaint says...

They wana start doin somthing about the millions of takeaways there are too..
They wana start doin somthing about the millions of takeaways there are too.. artistpaint
  • Score: 7

8:34pm Fri 29 Aug 14

dennis11* says...

however, the point of the article is that the local area of Bromley Cross is kept safe for locals and does not cause congestion. we do not need another 'mini supermarket'. if we want to buy in bulk we travel to a superstore; if we need to buy daily supplies we go to the co-op. the co-op has served this locality, and very successfully, for many years.
however, the point of the article is that the local area of Bromley Cross is kept safe for locals and does not cause congestion. we do not need another 'mini supermarket'. if we want to buy in bulk we travel to a superstore; if we need to buy daily supplies we go to the co-op. the co-op has served this locality, and very successfully, for many years. dennis11*
  • Score: 6

9:02pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Ardvark says...

Alan at the Ship wrote:
I think Mr & Mrs Kilner have the right to live in the natural surrounding they are used to, if I had the money I would apply to build a wonderful natural single storey stone premises with a view to opening a high class coffee house much needed in Bromley Cross. This would provide ample parking and would be popular with Rail passengers, shoppers and the community as a whole. I lived in Bromley Cross for a long time and the Co-op is pricey because it's handy, a trip to the big boys for a shop is far easier and cheaper, so for me another mini-market was a non starter!!
The 'natural surroundings' was a restaurant opened late with noisy customers. A High class coffee house would put you in bankruptcy within a year. This is Bromley Cross. The railway passengers are commuters, I am one - I don't stop for coffee to or from; The Railway, across the road from the station, tried and failed. There is the Lime Tree, a chain, opposite the Coop, struggling. Visit the community in the pubs and come out high on cannabis. Sainsbury's was much needed. Unfortunately they didn't give enough dash or they're not the right colour, whatever. You live in la la land.
[quote][p][bold]Alan at the Ship[/bold] wrote: I think Mr & Mrs Kilner have the right to live in the natural surrounding they are used to, if I had the money I would apply to build a wonderful natural single storey stone premises with a view to opening a high class coffee house much needed in Bromley Cross. This would provide ample parking and would be popular with Rail passengers, shoppers and the community as a whole. I lived in Bromley Cross for a long time and the Co-op is pricey because it's handy, a trip to the big boys for a shop is far easier and cheaper, so for me another mini-market was a non starter!![/p][/quote]The 'natural surroundings' was a restaurant opened late with noisy customers. A High class coffee house would put you in bankruptcy within a year. This is Bromley Cross. The railway passengers are commuters, I am one - I don't stop for coffee to or from; The Railway, across the road from the station, tried and failed. There is the Lime Tree, a chain, opposite the Coop, struggling. Visit the community in the pubs and come out high on cannabis. Sainsbury's was much needed. Unfortunately they didn't give enough dash or they're not the right colour, whatever. You live in la la land. Ardvark
  • Score: 0

10:39pm Fri 29 Aug 14

brinhambo says...

waterbottle wrote:
Nice place to build a mosque muslim community should purchase that land for the future, I'm sure next 10-15 yrs they will have moved into Bromley Cross.
and guess what ,there would be no problems with planning in fact Bolton council will probably have changed the rules anyway so that planning permission would not be required
[quote][p][bold]waterbottle[/bold] wrote: Nice place to build a mosque muslim community should purchase that land for the future, I'm sure next 10-15 yrs they will have moved into Bromley Cross.[/p][/quote]and guess what ,there would be no problems with planning in fact Bolton council will probably have changed the rules anyway so that planning permission would not be required brinhambo
  • Score: 3

11:22pm Fri 29 Aug 14

BX Resident says...

Don't get me wrong I'm all up for a good debate, but what the hell has this story got to do with mosques? Seems that no matter what the subject is we end up with a load of irrelevant comments like this. Bit less anger and a bit more tolerance wouldn't go a miss people. By the way, on the issue at hand, if they can come up with a revised scheme that allows the neighbours some more daylight then that should sort it. Would be good to finally have some choice.
Don't get me wrong I'm all up for a good debate, but what the hell has this story got to do with mosques? Seems that no matter what the subject is we end up with a load of irrelevant comments like this. Bit less anger and a bit more tolerance wouldn't go a miss people. By the way, on the issue at hand, if they can come up with a revised scheme that allows the neighbours some more daylight then that should sort it. Would be good to finally have some choice. BX Resident
  • Score: 7

12:20am Sat 30 Aug 14

united99 says...

BX Resident wrote:
Don't get me wrong I'm all up for a good debate, but what the hell has this story got to do with mosques? Seems that no matter what the subject is we end up with a load of irrelevant comments like this. Bit less anger and a bit more tolerance wouldn't go a miss people. By the way, on the issue at hand, if they can come up with a revised scheme that allows the neighbours some more daylight then that should sort it. Would be good to finally have some choice.
We don't like it either and it's always the usual suspects...
That's why we give it back - no hard feelings.
[quote][p][bold]BX Resident[/bold] wrote: Don't get me wrong I'm all up for a good debate, but what the hell has this story got to do with mosques? Seems that no matter what the subject is we end up with a load of irrelevant comments like this. Bit less anger and a bit more tolerance wouldn't go a miss people. By the way, on the issue at hand, if they can come up with a revised scheme that allows the neighbours some more daylight then that should sort it. Would be good to finally have some choice.[/p][/quote]We don't like it either and it's always the usual suspects... That's why we give it back - no hard feelings. united99
  • Score: 1
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