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Lecturer backs computer gaming degree

8:58am Tuesday 28th August 2007

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A LECTURER from the University of Bolton has stepped into the debate about the validity of degrees in computer gaming.

Andrew Williams, the university's principal lecturer in games, spoke out following criticism of the courses from a gaming business expert.

Matthew Jeffery, head of European recruitment at computer giants, Electronic Arts, said they have never hired graduates with a games design degree.

The University of Bolton is leading the way in computer games teaching, after launching one of the first computer games design degree courses in 2002.

The university has also set up an initiative called the Casual Games North-west Division to address a shortfall in the number of games designers in the North-west.

Mr Williams said: "University of Bolton games graduates are getting terrific jobs both within the games industry and also outside it."


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john, bolton says...
1:26pm Tue 28 Aug 07

Learning about computer games and reading Enid Blyton what else can our dumbed-down kids study.

Ainslie Casson, Westhoughton says...
4:00pm Tue 28 Aug 07

If the degree is purely a mind numbing critique of the differences of DOOM and some other death and destruction game standard with a bit psychology of the character type that games 27 hours a day thrown in, then it will be a waste of time. However, if it has some real applied mathematics involved such as probability of winning under differing strategies and Nash's Theorem (Yes, the Brilliant Mind film)and the concept of the amount of 'winning'. Then maybe it will be worthwhile. Let's see if any of those lecturers come up here and tell us what the course will entail.

Ains Casson MA

Ainslie Casson, Westhoughton says...
4:02pm Tue 28 Aug 07

If the degree is purely a mind numbing critique of the differences of DOOM and some other death and destruction game standard with a bit psychology of the character type that games 27 hours a day thrown in, then it will be a waste of time. However, if it has some real applied mathematics involved such as probability of winning under differing strategies and Nash's Theorem (Yes, the Brilliant Mind film)and the concept of the amount of 'winning'. Then maybe it will be worthwhile. Let's see if any of those lecturers come up here and tell us what the course will entail.

Ains Casson MA

trevor, bolton says...
4:25pm Tue 28 Aug 07

Ainslie Casson wrote:
If the degree is purely a mind numbing critique of the differences of DOOM and some other death and destruction game standard with a bit psychology of the character type that games 27 hours a day thrown in, then it will be a waste of time. However, if it has some real applied mathematics involved such as probability of winning under differing strategies and Nash's Theorem (Yes, the Brilliant Mind film)and the concept of the amount of 'winning'. Then maybe it will be worthwhile. Let's see if any of those lecturers come up here and tell us what the course will entail.

Ains Casson MA
You have an internet connection - check the Bolton Uni website like I just did. C++ programming, Applied maths, visual modelling and, critically, not a sign of any mickey mouse arts degree type critiques in sight...

Sunny, here and there says...
5:04pm Tue 28 Aug 07

99% of the readers on this site couldn't complete the first year of this degree let alone the full 3 years it takes. It is very difficult I can assure you, I have been there.

Tommy, says...
11:20am Wed 29 Aug 07

To all who voted that Computer Games Courses are a waste of time: You're all a **** sight naive..

Computer Games Development teaches advanced physics, mathematics and hard coding. It's a very taxing course and people who joined the course thinking they were in it just cause they loved gaming, dropped out because they weren't prepared.

I hope Mr Williams goes into more detail about whats involved and maybe people can be set straight.

Jon, Leeds says...
11:31am Sat 1 Sep 07

These courses are essentially Computer Science courses - but specifically aimed towards game design, do try and resist reaching the daily mail conclusion you're looking for. It is a science, maths and programming heavy course just targeted toward a specific career route.

My Opinion, Greater Manchester says...
3:41pm Mon 3 Sep 07

Not entirely correct.
The University of Bolton website shows that the "Computer Games Software Development" course does include modules in applied physics, mathematics and programming.

However the "Games Design " course includes modules such as Creative Design
and Computer Modelling & Art. No sign of maths or physics and little or no programming.

The University website has an advert for a Lecturer in Games Art to teach on their new "Games Art" BA course. Now that does sound like a mickey mouse degree!

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