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7:52am Friday 26th October 2007
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NEW Wanderers boss Gary Megson went on the charm offensive when he greeted his critics outside the Reebok.
The manager - in the post for only a few hours - was jeered by fans as he arrived to watch his new team.
But Megson met some of the supporters head on - and ended up signing autographs.
Earlier in the day, hundreds of disappointed supporters - hoping to see a bigger name at the helm - registered their anger at his appointment on The Bolton News website.
Many turned out to catch a glimpse of the new boss ahead of last night's Uefa Cup tie against SC Braga, but it proved to be a rocky reception for the new arrival from Leicester City.
Before watching the 1-1 draw from the stands, Megson appeared in the foyer at the club's main entrance and was greeted by jeers and chants from a group of young fans.
But Megson walked straight out to silence them, asking: "Who's doing the moaning out here?"
Fans then converged for autographs, some wished him good luck and all the best for the games ahead.
One asked him, "When are we going to start winning?" Megson replied: "We have got to start beating somebody soon."
He shook hands with Macauley Stephens, aged 12, from Deane, who said: "I just wanted to shake his hand because he's our manager now and I think he's going to do a good job."
But hundreds more supporters did not share the youngster's views.
Within an hour of Whites' chairman Phil Gartside announcing Megson's appointment just before 12.45pm yesterday, more than 70 readers had left comments on The Bolton News website criticising the appointment.
Gartside had declared: "Gary is the right man to take Bolton Wanderers forward".
But by teatime, about 350 had left messages, while others gathered at the Reebok Stadium to vent their frustration.
A small group of fans carrying posters bearing the slogans "Gartside Out" and "Sack the Board" stood outside chanting before kick-off, and the chants continued during the match.
One of the protesters, James Whelan, aged 31, from Westhoughton, said the appointment showed the club had "no ambition".
"A lot of people don't think that Megson is right. It's ludicrous. I feel, as a fan, I've got to make my voice heard," he said.
"I love this club and I want to see it be a success."
Lee Birchall, from Horwich, added: "Gary Megson is not the man for this job."
Bolton Wanderers Supporters Association chairman Tony Pearson said "the jury is out" on Megson but called on fellow fans to give the former West Bromwich Albion, Norwich City and Nottingham Forest manager time to get things right.
"I don't know whether he has got the kind of profile we were hoping a manager would have. We have to accept it. Somebody has to take charge of the team."
Mr Pearson said the key to the club's success in the past was stability and that Megson had a clean slate because he was not associated with the Allardyce regime.
He added: "When Sam Allardyce arrived from Notts County as a manager, his credentials were not that developed at that point and look what he achieved.
"I don't think it's fair to totally write Megson off this early in his career.
"Lets face it, if he gets three points against Aston Villa on Sunday, then things might change."
Trotter, Bolton says...
8:02am Fri 26 Oct 07
Trotter, Bolton says...
8:08am Fri 26 Oct 07
Raoul Duke, Priest Town says...
8:29am Fri 26 Oct 07
peakydav, Daisy Hill says...
8:50am Fri 26 Oct 07
gazz_ball - Supera Moras!, bolton says...
8:52am Fri 26 Oct 07
Raoul Duke wrote:Shouldn't you be in church somewhere, its not about the players, its about the lack of direction the club is going in
Did you blame Gartside when your dog died? There's absolutely NOTHING the Chairman can do if the players aren't willing to perform on the pitch.
King Eric, ......... says...
8:53am Fri 26 Oct 07
GC, Turton says...
8:55am Fri 26 Oct 07
Mixu Pantiliners, Dublin says...
9:07am Fri 26 Oct 07
Raoul Duke, Priest Town says...
9:08am Fri 26 Oct 07
gazz_ball - Supera Moras! wrote:No, I'm not religious. So it's a LACK of direction now is it? Yesterday the direction was down, now we don't have one - that's quite an improvement!
Raoul Duke wrote: Did you blame Gartside when your dog died? There's absolutely NOTHING the Chairman can do if the players aren't willing to perform on the pitch.Shouldn't you be in church somewhere, its not about the players, its about the lack of direction the club is going in
YouriLeGod, Bolton says...
9:14am Fri 26 Oct 07
cadders1, bolton says...
9:15am Fri 26 Oct 07
Raoul Duke, Priest Town says...
9:16am Fri 26 Oct 07
davel, n wales says...
9:17am Fri 26 Oct 07
lewis-bwfc, Reebok Stadium says...
9:28am Fri 26 Oct 07
Brak, Bolton says...
9:28am Fri 26 Oct 07
Raoul Duke, Priest Town says...
9:34am Fri 26 Oct 07
Brak wrote:??? I'm cool as a cucumber mate. It's people like davel that are throwing the tantrums.
Raoul Duke, chill buddy. U sound like u need a holiday.
Jon, Bolton says...
9:38am Fri 26 Oct 07
lewis-bwfc, Reebok Stadium says...
9:41am Fri 26 Oct 07
Jon wrote:I completely agree let's get behind the boy's and fight through this we have the team and the fans we just need it all to come together!!
Time to back the club unless we want to go down. Protests over, time to see what Megson can do and to give him our complete backing.
Durks, Brockhall says...
9:51am Fri 26 Oct 07
Raoul Duke, Priest Town says...
9:54am Fri 26 Oct 07
chrisfarn, bolton says...
9:58am Fri 26 Oct 07
burndenbob, standish says...
10:00am Fri 26 Oct 07
Raoul Duke, Priest Town says...
10:01am Fri 26 Oct 07
chrisfarn wrote:Gary Megson hasn't even been in charge for a single game yet you plank.
lol, you know what makes this much much much funnier? Martin Jol is now out of a job, the man a lot of you wanted as manager. Hysterical. A bigger complete balls up and shambles I dont think could be made anywhere. Laughing stock of football.
Trotter, Bolton says...
10:02am Fri 26 Oct 07
Raoul Duke wrote:Listen matey, if you are surronded by a bunch of people who threaten you (in this case MY club) then what you do is go for the ring leader first, Gartside is the ring leader in the sense that he is suppose to be leading MY club in the quest of Premiership respectability and have the right people in place to do that, if you think that the right people are in place, then go and stand behind Gartside, it might get to about the fizzy pop league before I get round to you, but believe me, I will get to you if Gartside is involved with MY club.
Did you blame Gartside when your dog died? There's absolutely NOTHING the Chairman can do if the players aren't willing to perform on the pitch.
martin1980, bolton says...
10:03am Fri 26 Oct 07
King Eric, ......... says...
10:07am Fri 26 Oct 07
Pedro, Bolton says...
10:08am Fri 26 Oct 07
Raoul Duke, Priest Town says...
10:09am Fri 26 Oct 07
Trotter wrote:I have NEVER said Gary Megson is the right man. How can anybody know either way before he's even had a single game?
Raoul Duke wrote: Did you blame Gartside when your dog died? There's absolutely NOTHING the Chairman can do if the players aren't willing to perform on the pitch.Listen matey, if you are surronded by a bunch of people who threaten you (in this case MY club) then what you do is go for the ring leader first, Gartside is the ring leader in the sense that he is suppose to be leading MY club in the quest of Premiership respectability and have the right people in place to do that, if you think that the right people are in place, then go and stand behind Gartside, it might get to about the fizzy pop league before I get round to you, but believe me, I will get to you if Gartside is involved with MY club. GARTSIDE OUT
chrisfarn, bolton says...
10:09am Fri 26 Oct 07
Raoul Duke wrote:And did I say he had? from someone who was busy going on about abuse and people throwing their dummies out of the pram Raoul you just did an extremely good job of joining them and at the same time kind of did in your post about rational thinking. Oh dear.
chrisfarn wrote: lol, you know what makes this much much much funnier? Martin Jol is now out of a job, the man a lot of you wanted as manager. Hysterical. A bigger complete balls up and shambles I dont think could be made anywhere. Laughing stock of football.Gary Megson hasn't even been in charge for a single game yet you plank.
Say it as it is, Bolton says...
10:11am Fri 26 Oct 07
Mark, Leicester says...
10:22am Fri 26 Oct 07
Chris, Rishton says...
10:24am Fri 26 Oct 07
Raoul Duke, Priest Town says...
10:27am Fri 26 Oct 07
Pedro, Bolton says...
10:29am Fri 26 Oct 07
James, Westhoughton says...
10:32am Fri 26 Oct 07
Raoul Duke wrote:They should give him the same amount of time they gave Sammy Lee. Anything less than or equal to 5 points, then he should be out. But that wont happen...Gartside has made a rod for his own back now, egotistical maniac he is.
The only reason I'm saying "give him a chance" is that there's no other option. Do you really think any football club would sack a manager before he's even had a game, just because the fans want it? You know, if fans picked managers, Ferguson would have been sacked from the Redsox within his first 6 months.
Trotter, Bolton says...
10:33am Fri 26 Oct 07
Mark wrote:Cheers for the trouble you have taken to post on here Mark , fans we both are and I for one can see what is coming for my club, I have turned my attention to Gartside now and until he goes then I fear the very worse for my club, I sang his praises through the Panorama programme when he tried to unload Jay Jay and then the Allardyce episode when I thought Big Sam was to blame, how wrong was I? it is now stirring me and all the Bolton fans point blank in the face that Gartside must go, on the subject of Gary Megson, then he is just a pawn in Gartside's demise of MY club.
This is all so familiar, exactly like the Leicester Mercury wedsite six weeks ago. We didn't want Megson then and look what happened: We're in a worse position than we were before! We may have the best defense in the Championship, but if you play nine at the back you probably will, our top scorers this year are both defenders who got their goals from corners and that tells you everything. You'll have one or two of the "give him a chance" merchants and we did, but they need to ask them selves a) are they really passionate supporters of BWFC? and b) do they actually know anything about football at all? Megson is useless and I feel sorry for the genuine fans, who should be given more credit as they know what is needed better than Gartside by the looks of it. Jewell, Sounness even, bug Megson? I'm just glad were shot of him...
Trotter, Bolton says...
10:36am Fri 26 Oct 07
Chris wrote:Spot on Chris .........
As a season ticket holder of some 50 years, I feel that its about time I had my say. The appointment of Gary Megson does not thrill me one bit-his track record is terrible-but I dont blame him for taking the job,and I hope he succeeds. My greater concern is about Phil Gartside, and I want to make the following points:- 1 This club is currently owned by Eddie Davies but it BELONGS to me and all the other fans of BWFC - and, indeed, to the people of Bolton - never forget this vital point. 2 Does Gartside accept that HE made a mistake when LSL was appointed? 3 Will HE accept the blame if Megson does not keep us in the Prem? 4 If the answer to points 2&3 is "yes" - and it must be - then will he resign? Its as simple as this - Gartside has lost the respect of the people to whom the club BELONGS.
Daxter, says...
10:42am Fri 26 Oct 07
Mixu Pantiliners, Dublin says...
10:43am Fri 26 Oct 07
James wrote:Roughly the same amount of time agreed. BUT I'd expect a lot more than 5 points from 10 games. A team who averages 1 point per game all season almost certainly goes down, let alone half a point per game. As said in my previous post, only 12 points from the next 8 games is an achievement and anything less than 10 should warrant a sacking of both manager and chairman!
Raoul Duke wrote: The only reason I'm saying "give him a chance" is that there's no other option. Do you really think any football club would sack a manager before he's even had a game, just because the fans want it? You know, if fans picked managers, Ferguson would have been sacked from the Redsox within his first 6 months.They should give him the same amount of time they gave Sammy Lee. Anything less than or equal to 5 points, then he should be out. But that wont happen...Gartside has made a rod for his own back now, egotistical maniac he is. Like I have said - my protest is against Gartside NOT Megson or the team. Megson is safe for the time being. Of course, it is a results game. Think Bolton fans deserve better than the blinkered ambition of a self-hyped Chairman. The reality is, the fans can swivel. The club could still pay players wages if no one turned up and no one bought a ST. So, what do we do? Sit in front of our computers or make it known to Gartside that we're not an passive entity he can frogmarch over? It is one of the few times I wish we were in France, those guys will strike and protest at the smallest thing. We need a bit of that spirit in Bolton.
superjohn, bolton says...
10:44am Fri 26 Oct 07
PJ, Bolton says...
10:49am Fri 26 Oct 07
James, Westhoughton says...
10:51am Fri 26 Oct 07
superjohn wrote:There were not a lot of protestors last night, personally I find it highly dissapointing.
Trotter - I'm not up for a barney with you but your position surprises me, not that I blame you for being Anti-Gartside but you are normally a sensible voice on this website. The reason I posted many complaints about LSL was because I thought by sacking him we would then get a better manager. I can't say definitively yet but Megson doesn't have the look (based on his previous record) as someone who will improve things. I'm also deeply suspicious about the fact that Megson's mate and ex-agent was involved in the interview process. However, I don't know what would improve if PG did resign. Who would be the next Chairman? Does anyone know? And surely despite our misgivings we have to get behind Megson don't we? I think Sunday's game is massive, Villa are good this year and if Megson can give us a win straight up the feelgood factor will surely come back. I didn't see a lot of protesters last night, Trotter.
White58, Bolton says...
10:54am Fri 26 Oct 07
chrisfarn wrote:You're missing the point, ChrisFarn. SOME fans might have wanted Jol, the Board & PG didn't. They wouldn'd have had him even if he'd been free. So your original post was mistaken.
Raoul Duke wrote:And did I say he had? from someone who was busy going on about abuse and people throwing their dummies out of the pram Raoul you just did an extremely good job of joining them and at the same time kind of did in your post about rational thinking. Oh dear.
chrisfarn wrote: lol, you know what makes this much much much funnier? Martin Jol is now out of a job, the man a lot of you wanted as manager. Hysterical. A bigger complete balls up and shambles I dont think could be made anywhere. Laughing stock of football.Gary Megson hasn't even been in charge for a single game yet you plank.
Most Bolton fans did not want Megson, none too surprisingly, they wanted Jol. That was the point I made, it was accurate. So your statement just undid all your posts regarding your opinion of others didnt it hmmm and I dont feel I have to lower myself to the same abuse throwing level to respond, I`ll leave you to prove what you are without my help. You already did.
trotter40, australia says...
10:57am Fri 26 Oct 07
MrWesrtToYou, Bolton says...
10:57am Fri 26 Oct 07
superkris, Manchester says...
10:58am Fri 26 Oct 07
Say it as it is, Bolton says...
11:01am Fri 26 Oct 07
White58 wrote:Not sure. I think PG would take anything cheap or free
chrisfarn wrote:You're missing the point, ChrisFarn. SOME fans might have wanted Jol, the Board & PG didn't. They wouldn'd have had him even if he'd been free. So your original post was mistaken. There - hope that's reasonable enough for you.Raoul Duke wrote:And did I say he had? from someone who was busy going on about abuse and people throwing their dummies out of the pram Raoul you just did an extremely good job of joining them and at the same time kind of did in your post about rational thinking. Oh dear. Most Bolton fans did not want Megson, none too surprisingly, they wanted Jol. That was the point I made, it was accurate. So your statement just undid all your posts regarding your opinion of others didnt it hmmm and I dont feel I have to lower myself to the same abuse throwing level to respond, I`ll leave you to prove what you are without my help. You already did.chrisfarn wrote: lol, you know what makes this much much much funnier? Martin Jol is now out of a job, the man a lot of you wanted as manager. Hysterical. A bigger complete balls up and shambles I dont think could be made anywhere. Laughing stock of football.Gary Megson hasn't even been in charge for a single game yet you plank.
James, Westhoughton says...
11:02am Fri 26 Oct 07
MrWesrtToYou wrote:The protest was a damp squib. A few chanting and me holding up my "Gartside Out" poster. Did make the Braga fans laugh with my poster I made which was in Portugese - words to the effect of "Our Club Chairman Is a W*****". Hopefully, that will be in some newspaper in Portugal.
Sorry I was late for the start of the game the passion wagon broke down on the way to the reebok!! How did the protest go!! Are we protesting b4 the villa game??
Trotter, Bolton says...
11:09am Fri 26 Oct 07
superjohn wrote:superjohn
Trotter - I'm not up for a barney with you but your position surprises me, not that I blame you for being Anti-Gartside but you are normally a sensible voice on this website. The reason I posted many complaints about LSL was because I thought by sacking him we would then get a better manager. I can't say definitively yet but Megson doesn't have the look (based on his previous record) as someone who will improve things. I'm also deeply suspicious about the fact that Megson's mate and ex-agent was involved in the interview process. However, I don't know what would improve if PG did resign. Who would be the next Chairman? Does anyone know? And surely despite our misgivings we have to get behind Megson don't we? I think Sunday's game is massive, Villa are good this year and if Megson can give us a win straight up the feelgood factor will surely come back. I didn't see a lot of protesters last night, Trotter.
Say it as it is, Bolton says...
11:13am Fri 26 Oct 07
James wrote:Let's not give up guys. Protest must go on before and after the game not during. We need to continue supporting the the team but we need to give it Gartslime in the neck. This guy has had us over a barrel so many times before and always comes out smelling of roses-remember the carling cup final fiasco? and then trying to offload Jay Jay while telling the sheep(fans) he was going nowhere and don't forget he's had two shots at replacing Sam and has failed us both times(it's only a matter of time before Megson fails) No wonder BSA had enough. He must of been spinning yarns for Sam as well as us sheep
MrWesrtToYou wrote: Sorry I was late for the start of the game the passion wagon broke down on the way to the reebok!! How did the protest go!! Are we protesting b4 the villa game??The protest was a damp squib. A few chanting and me holding up my "Gartside Out" poster. Did make the Braga fans laugh with my poster I made which was in Portugese - words to the effect of "Our Club Chairman Is a W*****". Hopefully, that will be in some newspaper in Portugal. Dont think there is enough will for a Gartside Out fight. The masses are apparently angry, but not to the extent they want to protest. I feel I did my bit...not sure what else is next now. It is 11am and the whole Gartside/Megson thing has taken over my life for two days. GARTSIDE OUT
superjohn, bolton says...
11:14am Fri 26 Oct 07
James wrote:He's a tw@t and he's made the club a laughing stock, I couldn't agree more.
superjohn wrote:There were not a lot of protestors last night, personally I find it highly dissapointing.
Trotter - I'm not up for a barney with you but your position surprises me, not that I blame you for being Anti-Gartside but you are normally a sensible voice on this website. The reason I posted many complaints about LSL was because I thought by sacking him we would then get a better manager. I can't say definitively yet but Megson doesn't have the look (based on his previous record) as someone who will improve things. I'm also deeply suspicious about the fact that Megson's mate and ex-agent was involved in the interview process. However, I don't know what would improve if PG did resign. Who would be the next Chairman? Does anyone know? And surely despite our misgivings we have to get behind Megson don't we? I think Sunday's game is massive, Villa are good this year and if Megson can give us a win straight up the feelgood factor will surely come back. I didn't see a lot of protesters last night, Trotter.
IF we can get PG removed as chairman, probably not a lot of things will change. It will show (to some degree) the fans are not here to be walked all over, like we have been for years and years.
If nothing else happens, I just want to make Gartside know he has burned his bridges with a lot of the Bolton fans.
lord kangana, Bolton says...
11:24am Fri 26 Oct 07
davel wrote:Couldn't agree more - chanting in the stadium gets us nowhere, proper protest might.
GUTLESS THATS WHAT BOLTON FANS ARE YOU LET GARTSIDE TAKE THE **** OUT OF THE CLUB AND SIT BACK AND TAKE IT .I WAS THERE PROTESTING ME AND ANOTHER BLOKE ,NO ONE ELSE SAYING NOTHING , THAT IS WHAT IS A DISGRACE .THEN WHAT DO YOU DO INSTEAD OF GETTING BEHIND THE TEAM YOU START CHANTING SACK THE BOARD MUPPETS YOU AND GARTSIDE DESERVE EACH OTHER.AS FOR GARTSIDE CLUELESS LOW LIFE SCUM .OH AND ALL THE DICKHEADS THAT SLAGGED BIG SAM WHAT DO YOU THINK NOW.
Trotter, Bolton says...
11:28am Fri 26 Oct 07
Ju Ju Ju darby, Farnworth says...
11:34am Fri 26 Oct 07
martin1980 wrote:Totally agree. No matter what is going on at our club, 10,000 for a UEFA cup match at £10/£15 a ticket is pathetic. There are far too many fans that have become complacement over the last 5 years & have forgot where we came from. Maybe a club with our current fanbase can only attract mangers of the calibre of megson. Its now time, more than ever before, to turn out at the Reebok & make some noise & get behind the manager of BWFC. Staying away will certainly not help the new manager or the players get out of the current mess we are in.
i wonder if there will be 10,000 against man utd at home ? i doubt it its about time the people who say they are bolton fans turn out to support the team , last night was £15 no excuses as one bloke put it to me in the pub after the game hed rather watch it on t.v as it was cheaper what a muppet as he spent £16 on beer and £20 in the bandit !!!! come on lets get behind megson we have no choice and lets keep this club where it belongs
King Eric, . says...
11:36am Fri 26 Oct 07
Trotter, Bolton says...
11:39am Fri 26 Oct 07
King Eric wrote:If you are a football fan Eric then you would have sympathy for any fan who cares about his/her club, the fact that you mock these fans then tells me that you are not a fan.
The protest was laughed at on R5 this morning. Some kids chanting, Megson gets out of his car,goes over to them, they end up having their photos taken with him. Hardly the Burmese monks was it ? :-))))
Jon, Bolton says...
11:40am Fri 26 Oct 07
Raoul Duke, Priest Town says...
11:42am Fri 26 Oct 07
Jon wrote:Well said that man.
Anyone chanting INSIDE the ground is NOT a fan of BWFC and as far as I'm concerned should be turned on by all the other decent fans WHO want our club to stay in the premiership. If you must protest, do it outside, although even that I find highly pathetic and quite frankly ridiculous.
James, Westhoughton says...
11:43am Fri 26 Oct 07
Jon wrote:Protest against Gartside and the running of the club.
Anyone chanting INSIDE the ground is NOT a fan of BWFC and as far as I'm concerned should be turned on by all the other decent fans WHO want our club to stay in the premiership. If you must protest, do it outside, although even that I find highly pathetic and quite frankly ridiculous.
trotter40, australia says...
11:50am Fri 26 Oct 07
Mixu Pantiliners, Dublin says...
11:50am Fri 26 Oct 07
lord kangana wrote:lord kanagana / davel - what's the plan? What will the protests achieve at this stage? Eddie Davies must have been aware of the anti-Gartside/anti-M
davel wrote: GUTLESS THATS WHAT BOLTON FANS ARE YOU LET GARTSIDE TAKE THE **** OUT OF THE CLUB AND SIT BACK AND TAKE IT .I WAS THERE PROTESTING ME AND ANOTHER BLOKE ,NO ONE ELSE SAYING NOTHING , THAT IS WHAT IS A DISGRACE .THEN WHAT DO YOU DO INSTEAD OF GETTING BEHIND THE TEAM YOU START CHANTING SACK THE BOARD MUPPETS YOU AND GARTSIDE DESERVE EACH OTHER.AS FOR GARTSIDE CLUELESS LOW LIFE SCUM .OH AND ALL THE DICKHEADS THAT SLAGGED BIG SAM WHAT DO YOU THINK NOW.Couldn't agree more - chanting in the stadium gets us nowhere, proper protest might. Sadly the apathy and follow-the-herd mentality of many fans of our club means we get the club we deserve. BWFC RIP
birch, chorley says...
11:53am Fri 26 Oct 07
Daxter, says...
11:53am Fri 26 Oct 07
Trotter, Bolton says...
11:53am Fri 26 Oct 07
Jon wrote:I prefer to voice my opinions directly to the club via mail Jon , never have I jeered my team or protested outside the stadium, do not mind the fans chanting "Gartside out" though because when there is a weak link in the chain then it needs replacing, especially when we are cycling uphill and Gartside being a very big link in the chain, it is important our club replace that link with a chant of:
Anyone chanting INSIDE the ground is NOT a fan of BWFC and as far as I'm concerned should be turned on by all the other decent fans WHO want our club to stay in the premiership. If you must protest, do it outside, although even that I find highly pathetic and quite frankly ridiculous.
King Cain, Bolton says...
11:53am Fri 26 Oct 07
Raoul Duke wrote:Raoul Duke, serious question; Are you BWFC TIL I DIE with a new log in? Same views, same frequency of posts, same attacks on anti Gartslime comments, questioning loyalties, alot of similarities. Also BWFC TIL I DIE has not commented for a while which coincides with your introduction to this site.
Jon wrote: Anyone chanting INSIDE the ground is NOT a fan of BWFC and as far as I'm concerned should be turned on by all the other decent fans WHO want our club to stay in the premiership. If you must protest, do it outside, although even that I find highly pathetic and quite frankly ridiculous.Well said that man.
Raoul Duke, Priest Town says...
11:55am Fri 26 Oct 07
King Cain wrote:No, I'd never posted on here before until yesterday.
Raoul Duke wrote:Raoul Duke, serious question; Are you BWFC TIL I DIE with a new log in? Same views, same frequency of posts, same attacks on anti Gartslime comments, questioning loyalties, alot of similarities. Also BWFC TIL I DIE has not commented for a while which coincides with your introduction to this site. There WAS a protest last night the evidence is in the attendance. Protests do work but it depends on how you protest, I protested by not attending last night and dont anyone try and question as to whether i am a fan or not. I doubt many on this site have supported the club as much as me over the last 20+ years. I am genuinely gutted about our clubs plight and the people running or should I say ruining our club.Jon wrote: Anyone chanting INSIDE the ground is NOT a fan of BWFC and as far as I'm concerned should be turned on by all the other decent fans WHO want our club to stay in the premiership. If you must protest, do it outside, although even that I find highly pathetic and quite frankly ridiculous.Well said that man.
trotter40, australia says...
11:55am Fri 26 Oct 07
Bolton Billy, Daubhill says...
11:56am Fri 26 Oct 07
Jon wrote:I agree. I think the best solution is to avoid the Reebok altogether. The real problem is that Bolton do have `decent fans` but unfortunately we have an indecent chairman. Leave him and the benefactor to stew in their own mess. Incidentally, Jon I wondered when you would surface.
Anyone chanting INSIDE the ground is NOT a fan of BWFC and as far as I'm concerned should be turned on by all the other decent fans WHO want our club to stay in the premiership. If you must protest, do it outside, although even that I find highly pathetic and quite frankly ridiculous.
Trotter, Bolton says...
11:59am Fri 26 Oct 07
Daxter wrote:No qualms with Megson whatsoever, it is with Gartside and if my record of being a "lifelong season tkt concerned bwfc supporter" does not sound good to you then you need to turn off the volume and start reading some facts regarding our chairman ............ maybe I should write a book for you saying that you do not like the music coming your way (must warn you that is not good either)
TROTTER We get your point. Stop being a broken record. NO-ONE is happy with Megson's appointment or Gartsides decision, BUT give him a chance. Get behind the team and support them. Two wins and we're mid table. COME ON YOU WHITES.
Trotter, Bolton says...
12:03pm Fri 26 Oct 07
Ju Ju Ju darby, Farnworth says...
12:06pm Fri 26 Oct 07
martin1980 wrote:Totally agree. No matter what is going on at our club, 10,000 for a UEFA cup match at £10/£15 a ticket is pathetic. There are far too many fans that have become complacement over the last 5 years & have forgot where we came from. Maybe a club with our current fanbase can only attract mangers of the calibre of megson. Its now time, more than ever before, to turn out at the Reebok & make some noise & get behind the manager of BWFC. Staying away will certainly not help the new manager or the players get out of the current mess we are in.
i wonder if there will be 10,000 against man utd at home ? i doubt it its about time the people who say they are bolton fans turn out to support the team , last night was £15 no excuses as one bloke put it to me in the pub after the game hed rather watch it on t.v as it was cheaper what a muppet as he spent £16 on beer and £20 in the bandit !!!! come on lets get behind megson we have no choice and lets keep this club where it belongs
lord kangana, Bolton says...
12:07pm Fri 26 Oct 07
Mixu Pantiliners wrote:What will the protest achieve???
lord kangana wrote:lord kanagana / davel - what's the plan? What will the protests achieve at this stage? Eddie Davies must have been aware of the anti-Gartside/anti-M egson sentiment on here and elsewhere. He must have approved the Megson signing and he isn't going sack his chairman and manager anytime in the next 5 games. It's time for us fans to take stock, and support the players. If things do go as badly as we all expect then there is NO WAY Gartside can possibly survive. For now he's been allowed to make his "decisive decision" in what HAS to be his last throw of the dice as Bolton chairman. If he's got this wrong and tries to ride it out again, I think we are all ready to riot, never mind protest!davel wrote: GUTLESS THATS WHAT BOLTON FANS ARE YOU LET GARTSIDE TAKE THE **** OUT OF THE CLUB AND SIT BACK AND TAKE IT .I WAS THERE PROTESTING ME AND ANOTHER BLOKE ,NO ONE ELSE SAYING NOTHING , THAT IS WHAT IS A DISGRACE .THEN WHAT DO YOU DO INSTEAD OF GETTING BEHIND THE TEAM YOU START CHANTING SACK THE BOARD MUPPETS YOU AND GARTSIDE DESERVE EACH OTHER.AS FOR GARTSIDE CLUELESS LOW LIFE SCUM .OH AND ALL THE DICKHEADS THAT SLAGGED BIG SAM WHAT DO YOU THINK NOW.Couldn't agree more - chanting in the stadium gets us nowhere, proper protest might. Sadly the apathy and follow-the-herd mentality of many fans of our club means we get the club we deserve. BWFC RIP
Jon, Bolton says...
12:10pm Fri 26 Oct 07
J4, Bolton says...
12:13pm Fri 26 Oct 07
Angus, Bury St Edmunds says...
12:16pm Fri 26 Oct 07
Raoul Duke wrote:You couldn't be more wrong. A chairman's job is to provide a manager that can motivate the players to put good performances in week in, week out. That's the chairman's job.
Did you blame Gartside when your dog died? There's absolutely NOTHING the Chairman can do if the players aren't willing to perform on the pitch.
Martin Duggan, says...
12:16pm Fri 26 Oct 07
Jon, Bolton says...
12:19pm Fri 26 Oct 07
Angus wrote:If Megson keeps us up will you then praise Gartside for making a superb decision?
Raoul Duke wrote: Did you blame Gartside when your dog died? There's absolutely NOTHING the Chairman can do if the players aren't willing to perform on the pitch.You couldn't be more wrong. A chairman's job is to provide a manager that can motivate the players to put good performances in week in, week out. That's the chairman's job. Gartside has not done his job. If I don't do my job I have to leave, so should Gartside.
nd, reebok says...
12:19pm Fri 26 Oct 07
James, Westhoughton says...
12:24pm Fri 26 Oct 07
Jon wrote:Ahh...the old "we're in debt"
The only person who can change the way the club is financed is Eddie Davies. In fact thats not quite true, its Eddie Davies persuading someone to buy the club from him and to pour money in. So instead of getting at Gartside who is simply a glorified Chief Exec, perhaps you could all write sensible letters to people who are interested in buying a football club and have sufficient funds to invest. Until that happens we are what we are. A small club with big debts competing against the Readings of the world, NOT the Newcastles, Spurs, Arsenals and because of the wealth of their owners, Wigans, Portsmouths and West Hams. Find someone prepared to buy us before you antagonise Davies who has lets face it, funded the club to allow us to buy Anelka.
newshound, bolton says...
12:26pm Fri 26 Oct 07
nd wrote:"Don`t panic Mr Mainwaring Sir.....Don`t panic"
WHITE ARMY: we're doomed, doomed i tell ya.
newshound, bolton says...
12:27pm Fri 26 Oct 07
nd wrote:"Don`t panic Mr Mainwaring Sir, Don`t panic"
WHITE ARMY: we're doomed, doomed i tell ya.
Mixu Pantiliners, Dublin says...
12:28pm Fri 26 Oct 07
lord kangana wrote:lord kangana - few would argue with you summary of Megson and the likelihood of a grim future ahead. My point is that Gartside has his way, and he has the full backing of the owner. This is a fresh start, it's not the one we wanted but protests are better timed and more effective when we've seen what Megson can (or more likely can't) do.
Mixu Pantiliners wrote:What will the protest achieve??? 1)To show the world (who now think we are a laughing stock) that we care. 2)Megson is a championship manager, and he will find his level very quickly, taking us with him. 3)Gartside WAS AWARE that we fans wholeheartedly did not want Megson - yet he continued anyway. That shows some balls, and the courage of his convictions. Well I'm doing the same, because I %100 disagree with this decision. 3)Even IF we manage to somehow survive this god-awful, Gartside-made mess, and by some miracle stay in the premier league, look forward to years of relegation battles and 'dogs-of-war' tactics, because that is all Megson is capable of AT HIS VERY BEST. If now is not the time to protest, then there NEVER will be a time at BWFC, and I refuse to be an apathetic sheep who will stand idly by and see one of the best periods in our history consigned to the dustbin for lack of a bit of backbone by the fans.lord kangana wrote:lord kanagana / davel - what's the plan? What will the protests achieve at this stage? Eddie Davies must have been aware of the anti-Gartside/anti-M egson sentiment on here and elsewhere. He must have approved the Megson signing and he isn't going sack his chairman and manager anytime in the next 5 games. It's time for us fans to take stock, and support the players. If things do go as badly as we all expect then there is NO WAY Gartside can possibly survive. For now he's been allowed to make his "decisive decision" in what HAS to be his last throw of the dice as Bolton chairman. If he's got this wrong and tries to ride it out again, I think we are all ready to riot, never mind protest!davel wrote: GUTLESS THATS WHAT BOLTON FANS ARE YOU LET GARTSIDE TAKE THE **** OUT OF THE CLUB AND SIT BACK AND TAKE IT .I WAS THERE PROTESTING ME AND ANOTHER BLOKE ,NO ONE ELSE SAYING NOTHING , THAT IS WHAT IS A DISGRACE .THEN WHAT DO YOU DO INSTEAD OF GETTING BEHIND THE TEAM YOU START CHANTING SACK THE BOARD MUPPETS YOU AND GARTSIDE DESERVE EACH OTHER.AS FOR GARTSIDE CLUELESS LOW LIFE SCUM .OH AND ALL THE DICKHEADS THAT SLAGGED BIG SAM WHAT DO YOU THINK NOW.Couldn't agree more - chanting in the stadium gets us nowhere, proper protest might. Sadly the apathy and follow-the-herd mentality of many fans of our club means we get the club we deserve. BWFC RIP
barbarossa, poulton le fylde says...
12:28pm Fri 26 Oct 07
King Cain, Bolton says...
12:28pm Fri 26 Oct 07
Martin Duggan wrote:Yes i have in fact i've sussed out from some of his past postings that he is a fraudster anyway, don't give him the time of day.
Have you ever noticed how eric gets very quiet when someone puts a constructive responce on that makes him look a bit stupid!
Mike, Wonderland says...
12:30pm Fri 26 Oct 07
Pedro, Bolton says...
12:30pm Fri 26 Oct 07
Trotter, Bolton says...
12:31pm Fri 26 Oct 07
Jon wrote:Jon I think you are missing the point of Gartside telling lies and giving false hope to those who support the club, someone made the point of having no fans and the club could still get by financially which I understand, the fact that the fans are getting at someone is a comfort in a way for them, instead of doing nothing, you pose a good point mentioning Eddie Davies but after all he has employed Gartside as his mouthpiece and at the moment the likes of Allardyce, P.F.M.A, Panorama and the majority of bwfc fans are voicing thier opinions at Gartside.
The only person who can change the way the club is financed is Eddie Davies. In fact thats not quite true, its Eddie Davies persuading someone to buy the club from him and to pour money in. So instead of getting at Gartside who is simply a glorified Chief Exec, perhaps you could all write sensible letters to people who are interested in buying a football club and have sufficient funds to invest. Until that happens we are what we are. A small club with big debts competing against the Readings of the world, NOT the Newcastles, Spurs, Arsenals and because of the wealth of their owners, Wigans, Portsmouths and West Hams. Find someone prepared to buy us before you antagonise Davies who has lets face it, funded the club to allow us to buy Anelka.
Angus, Bury St Edmunds says...
12:31pm Fri 26 Oct 07
Jon wrote:No because I still feel that the way he has gone behind the club's fans and not taken into account any of the views is disgraceful. Football clubs should be based on the supporters and for Gartside to be completely ignorant of them is unnacceptable.
Angus wrote:If Megson keeps us up will you then praise Gartside for making a superb decision?Raoul Duke wrote: Did you blame Gartside when your dog died? There's absolutely NOTHING the Chairman can do if the players aren't willing to perform on the pitch.You couldn't be more wrong. A chairman's job is to provide a manager that can motivate the players to put good performances in week in, week out. That's the chairman's job. Gartside has not done his job. If I don't do my job I have to leave, so should Gartside.
phil, BOLTON,LANCS says...
12:32pm Fri 26 Oct 07
Trotter, Bolton says...
12:32pm Fri 26 Oct 07
barbarossa wrote:Cheers matey,
I understand the press conference is at 2pm. but will need to confirm.
kigbillspacked, bolton says...
12:32pm Fri 26 Oct 07
Mike, Wonderland says...
12:34pm Fri 26 Oct 07
Pedro, Bolton says...
12:34pm Fri 26 Oct 07
phil, BOLTON,LANCS says...
12:36pm Fri 26 Oct 07
Trotter, Bolton says...
12:43pm Fri 26 Oct 07
Jon, Bolton says...
12:43pm Fri 26 Oct 07
Angus wrote:Eh? Eddie Davies owns the club. The ONLY person Gartside has to take orders from is him.
Jon wrote:No because I still feel that the way he has gone behind the club's fans and not taken into account any of the views is disgraceful. Football clubs should be based on the supporters and for Gartside to be completely ignorant of them is unnacceptable. If I was the chairman of a different business, it would be unthinkable to employ a manager that the large majority of customers hated. He has to go..he's shown he doesn't listen, and thats what chairmen should do...listen. Besides, are you really considering that Megson could keep us up? Look as his track record.Angus wrote:If Megson keeps us up will you then praise Gartside for making a superb decision?Raoul Duke wrote: Did you blame Gartside when your dog died? There's absolutely NOTHING the Chairman can do if the players aren't willing to perform on the pitch.You couldn't be more wrong. A chairman's job is to provide a manager that can motivate the players to put good performances in week in, week out. That's the chairman's job. Gartside has not done his job. If I don't do my job I have to leave, so should Gartside.
jay, bolton says...
12:47pm Fri 26 Oct 07
King Cain wrote:i think your right mate, raoul duke and boring jon are both full of sh1t. they would stick up for gartside if he appointed a woman as manager i think and jon would come up with someway of saying it shows gartsides vision lol! I too have been BWFC since was 8, 22years now and been to the leyton orients, southends and northamptons. At the time they where good days and still enjoyed the matches, but as most of us on here we dont want to see them days ever again!
Raoul Duke wrote:Raoul Duke, serious question; Are you BWFC TIL I DIE with a new log in? Same views, same frequency of posts, same attacks on anti Gartslime comments, questioning loyalties, alot of similarities. Also BWFC TIL I DIE has not commented for a while which coincides with your introduction to this site. There WAS a protest last night the evidence is in the attendance. Protests do work but it depends on how you protest, I protested by not attending last night and dont anyone try and question as to whether i am a fan or not. I doubt many on this site have supported the club as much as me over the last 20+ years. I am genuinely gutted about our clubs plight and the people running or should I say ruining our club.Jon wrote: Anyone chanting INSIDE the ground is NOT a fan of BWFC and as far as I'm concerned should be turned on by all the other decent fans WHO want our club to stay in the premiership. If you must protest, do it outside, although even that I find highly pathetic and quite frankly ridiculous.Well said that man.
Trotter, Bolton says...
12:47pm Fri 26 Oct 07
Pedro wrote:Cheers matey, KEEP THE FAITH will be back soon, just need to get some Gartside stuff off my chest, if you know what I mean, I care very much about our team and Gartside is not helping me with the: KEEP THE FAITH.
KEEP ON KEEPING THE FAITH TROTTER!
King Eric, . says...
12:50pm Fri 26 Oct 07
If you are a football fan Eric then you would have sympathy for any fan who cares about his/her club, the fact that you mock these fans then tells me that you are not a fan.
Only one Andy Walker, London says...
12:50pm Fri 26 Oct 07
Raoul Duke wrote:YEAH but not giving the cash to the replace the players that we lost (faye, haim) is his job and he has failed.
Did you blame Gartside when your dog died? There's absolutely NOTHING the Chairman can do if the players aren't willing to perform on the pitch.
Angus, Bury St Edmunds says...
12:55pm Fri 26 Oct 07
King Eric, . says...
12:55pm Fri 26 Oct 07
If you are a football fan Eric then you would have sympathy for any fan who cares about his/her club, the fact that you mock these fans then tells me that you are not a fan.
Trotter, Bolton says...
12:56pm Fri 26 Oct 07
Northwich White, Northwich says...
12:57pm Fri 26 Oct 07
MrWesrtToYou, Bolton says...
12:57pm Fri 26 Oct 07
jay, bolton says...
12:57pm Fri 26 Oct 07
cadders1 wrote:Megson wont do anything, we should stay up but that will be down to our quality players not Megsons tactics, team talks or training techniques. Hes a proven nobody who spent quite a few quid at brom and didnt nothing. Gartside out! As for ppl keep saying we have punched above our weight for years shows that those fans where just waiting for the bubble to burst, maybe we aint an out and out top 6 quality team but we should be top 10 or 12 with the players we have at the moment but will not have by the end of the season.
Like it or not Megson is our manager (he wouldn't be my tenth choice let alone first!)but he is here so we all need to get behind the team for sunday and get three points. Lets not forget this is about Bolton Wanderers not one individual. I firmly believe we would have been in the crap this year even under FSA, maybe not bottom but darn close. He knew that, thats one of the reasons (PG was the other)why he left. As mentioned above FSA had no history when he took over but the difference is we were a struggling championship side then not a prem side still in europe as now. If speed is the reason for the unrest then maybe its time to say goodbye and blood the new players, he can't have many miles left in his legs anyway, and he was awful last night. When we played the in ya face, long ball football and won then it was a means to an end, when we lost it just looked ugly. That said I would settle for that on Sunday. We need to be realistic that for the last few years we have punched above our weight as FSA played a style that suited the players he could afford (Anelka apart). We need to get back to that kind of mentality and maybe (just maybe, fingers well crossed) Megson might do it!!
lord kangana, Bolton says...
12:58pm Fri 26 Oct 07
King Eric, . says...
12:58pm Fri 26 Oct 07
Posted by: King Cain, Bolton on 12:28pm today
Martin Duggan wrote: Have you ever noticed how eric gets very quiet when someone puts a constructive responce on that makes him look a bit stupid!Yes i have in fact i've sussed out from some of his past postings that he is a fraudster anyway, don't give him the time of day.
Martin Duggan wrote:
Have you ever noticed how eric gets very quiet when someone puts a constructive responce on that makes him look a bit stupid!
Yes i have in fact i've sussed out from some of his past postings that he is a fraudster anyway, don't give him the time of day.
MrWesrtToYou, Bolton says...
12:58pm Fri 26 Oct 07
jay, bolton says...
1:00pm Fri 26 Oct 07
James wrote:dont worry its jon hes always on about financial waffle, you,d think he was our accountant by the way he talks oh and believe me this bloke will stick up for gartside even if he appointed a woman manager, he,d tell us it show gartsides vision or some other crap!
Jon wrote: The only person who can change the way the club is financed is Eddie Davies. In fact thats not quite true, its Eddie Davies persuading someone to buy the club from him and to pour money in. So instead of getting at Gartside who is simply a glorified Chief Exec, perhaps you could all write sensible letters to people who are interested in buying a football club and have sufficient funds to invest. Until that happens we are what we are. A small club with big debts competing against the Readings of the world, NOT the Newcastles, Spurs, Arsenals and because of the wealth of their owners, Wigans, Portsmouths and West Hams. Find someone prepared to buy us before you antagonise Davies who has lets face it, funded the club to allow us to buy Anelka.Ahh...the old "we're in debt" That is one of the questions on my list. Where has all the money gone? Year of being in the Premier and yet we are still brassic. Someone is making money - it sure as hell not being invested in the club.
Trotter, Bolton says...
1:01pm Fri 26 Oct 07
King Eric wrote:I have another idea, for those who dare, in that when Eddie Davies arrives on Sunday or any home game then bombard him with leaflets, suggestions and banners regarding Gartside out, not to mention the letters sent to him through the Reebok address, if he does not get sick of it then his blonde on his arm will.
King Eric was busy..discussing the match with a BWFC fanIf you are a football fan Eric then you would have sympathy for any fan who cares about his/her club, the fact that you mock these fans then tells me that you are not a fan.I honestly do care about the way you genuine fans are being treated but...you have to organise your protest properly in order to have an impact. I gave you some suggestions yesterday..10000 A4 leaflets with a 'red card' on them. You can still back the team and show the board, Gartside & Davies what you think. And to borrow our campaign slogan How about: LBHG Love Bolton Hate Gartside Says it all. I won't charge you for this info BTW ;-))
Normid Nomad, Howfen says...
1:02pm Fri 26 Oct 07
Jon wrote:See that Eddie and Phils best mate is back - Jon YOU are a KN08HEAD !! 1st CLASS
Anyone chanting INSIDE the ground is NOT a fan of BWFC and as far as I'm concerned should be turned on by all the other decent fans WHO want our club to stay in the premiership. If you must protest, do it outside, although even that I find highly pathetic and quite frankly ridiculous.
kigbillspacked, bolton says...
1:02pm Fri 26 Oct 07
phil wrote:for **** sake!!it was 15 quid!!excuses all the time.
Attendance was poor last night, can't believe they didn't offer the same prices as the 1st game in Europe this season - Would have been a lot more there due to it being 1/2 term for the kids
Jon, Bolton says...
1:06pm Fri 26 Oct 07
jay wrote:Jay, OK Gartside and Eddie Davies out.
King Cain wrote:i think your right mate, raoul duke and boring jon are both full of sh1t. they would stick up for gartside if he appointed a woman as manager i think and jon would come up with someway of saying it shows gartsides vision lol! I too have been BWFC since was 8, 22years now and been to the leyton orients, southends and northamptons. At the time they where good days and still enjoyed the matches, but as most of us on here we dont want to see them days ever again!Raoul Duke wrote:Raoul Duke, serious question; Are you BWFC TIL I DIE with a new log in? Same views, same frequency of posts, same attacks on anti Gartslime comments, questioning loyalties, alot of similarities. Also BWFC TIL I DIE has not commented for a while which coincides with your introduction to this site. There WAS a protest last night the evidence is in the attendance. Protests do work but it depends on how you protest, I protested by not attending last night and dont anyone try and question as to whether i am a fan or not. I doubt many on this site have supported the club as much as me over the last 20+ years. I am genuinely gutted about our clubs plight and the people running or should I say ruining our club.Jon wrote: Anyone chanting INSIDE the ground is NOT a fan of BWFC and as far as I'm concerned should be turned on by all the other decent fans WHO want our club to stay in the premiership. If you must protest, do it outside, although even that I find highly pathetic and quite frankly ridiculous.Well said that man.
Trotter, Bolton says...
1:08pm Fri 26 Oct 07
Normid Nomad wrote:Bit unfair to have a go at Jon matey, Jon gives a good debate and an alternative to our questions and concerns, one of the good posters on this forum and a fan, no need to have a go at our own fans when we should all stick together.
Jon wrote: Anyone chanting INSIDE the ground is NOT a fan of BWFC and as far as I'm concerned should be turned on by all the other decent fans WHO want our club to stay in the premiership. If you must protest, do it outside, although even that I find highly pathetic and quite frankly ridiculous.See that Eddie and Phils best mate is back - Jon YOU are a KN08HEAD !! 1st CLASS ps Hows the strike going at Warbies - Because cmon that is you Jonathon isnt it because only a warby could stick up up for Garshite (Ex employee / mate and all that !
J4, Bolton says...
1:08pm Fri 26 Oct 07
Only one Andy Walker, London says...
1:12pm Fri 26 Oct 07
Jon wrote:Yeah but gartside has got it wrong.
Angus wrote:Eh? Eddie Davies owns the club. The ONLY person Gartside has to take orders from is him.
Jon wrote:No because I still feel that the way he has gone behind the club's fans and not taken into account any of the views is disgraceful. Football clubs should be based on the supporters and for Gartside to be completely ignorant of them is unnacceptable. If I was the chairman of a different business, it would be unthinkable to employ a manager that the large majority of customers hated. He has to go..he's shown he doesn't listen, and thats what chairmen should do...listen. Besides, are you really considering that Megson could keep us up? Look as his track record.Angus wrote:If Megson keeps us up will you then praise Gartside for making a superb decision?Raoul Duke wrote: Did you blame Gartside when your dog died? There's absolutely NOTHING the Chairman can do if the players aren't willing to perform on the pitch.You couldn't be more wrong. A chairman's job is to provide a manager that can motivate the players to put good performances in week in, week out. That's the chairman's job. Gartside has not done his job. If I don't do my job I have to leave, so should Gartside.
If the chairman listened to the supporters all the time, we'd be in a right mess. For a start we'd be sacking a manager every time we lost.
Gartside along with Davies have made a choice of manager they believe to be correct.
The fans may disagree, but we aren't in the same position. Gartside felt we needed a strong personality to sort the dressing room out. It was between Souness and Megson and lets face it there were a lot of people complaining about Souness.
Gartside makes these decisions in the best interest of the club. Whatever people say he does. Whether it was the right decision or not, only time will tell.
But lets wait and see eh?
Jon, Bolton says...
1:13pm Fri 26 Oct 07
jay wrote:Its so funny Jay that you are so abundantly thick.
James wrote:dont worry its jon hes always on about financial waffle, you,d think he was our accountant by the way he talks oh and believe me this bloke will stick up for gartside even if he appointed a woman manager, he,d tell us it show gartsides vision or some other crap!Jon wrote: The only person who can change the way the club is financed is Eddie Davies. In fact thats not quite true, its Eddie Davies persuading someone to buy the club from him and to pour money in. So instead of getting at Gartside who is simply a glorified Chief Exec, perhaps you could all write sensible letters to people who are interested in buying a football club and have sufficient funds to invest. Until that happens we are what we are. A small club with big debts competing against the Readings of the world, NOT the Newcastles, Spurs, Arsenals and because of the wealth of their owners, Wigans, Portsmouths and West Hams. Find someone prepared to buy us before you antagonise Davies who has lets face it, funded the club to allow us to buy Anelka.Ahh...the old "we're in debt" That is one of the questions on my list. Where has all the money gone? Year of being in the Premier and yet we are still brassic. Someone is making money - it sure as hell not being invested in the club.
lord kangana, Bolton says...
1:23pm Fri 26 Oct 07
Jon wrote:THE FANS?
jay wrote:Its so funny Jay that you are so abundantly thick. Come on who do you want to run the club? Names please!James wrote:dont worry its jon hes always on about financial waffle, you,d think he was our accountant by the way he talks oh and believe me this bloke will stick up for gartside even if he appointed a woman manager, he,d tell us it show gartsides vision or some other crap!Jon wrote: The only person who can change the way the club is financed is Eddie Davies. In fact thats not quite true, its Eddie Davies persuading someone to buy the club from him and to pour money in. So instead of getting at Gartside who is simply a glorified Chief Exec, perhaps you could all write sensible letters to people who are interested in buying a football club and have sufficient funds to invest. Until that happens we are what we are. A small club with big debts competing against the Readings of the world, NOT the Newcastles, Spurs, Arsenals and because of the wealth of their owners, Wigans, Portsmouths and West Hams. Find someone prepared to buy us before you antagonise Davies who has lets face it, funded the club to allow us to buy Anelka.Ahh...the old "we're in debt" That is one of the questions on my list. Where has all the money gone? Year of being in the Premier and yet we are still brassic. Someone is making money - it sure as hell not being invested in the club.
listen 2 me, lancashire says...
1:24pm Fri 26 Oct 07
listen 2 me, lancashire says...
1:24pm Fri 26 Oct 07
Jon, Bolton says...
1:28pm Fri 26 Oct 07
lord kangana wrote:Right and tell me when in the past 30 years have we had a board, chairman and owner who have done more for the club than the current set-up?
Jon wrote:THE FANS? Its hilarious how you are trying to railroad the argument, but just because an answer isn't readily available, doesn't mean you shut up shop and give in, it means you try harder and look further. I wonder if you are by any chance related to Neville Chamberlain? Just because we have no immediate candidate to replace the half-wit in charge, doesn't change the fact that WE STILL HAVE A HALF-WIT IN CHARGE.jay wrote:Its so funny Jay that you are so abundantly thick. Come on who do you want to run the club? Names please!James wrote:dont worry its jon hes always on about financial waffle, you,d think he was our accountant by the way he talks oh and believe me this bloke will stick up for gartside even if he appointed a woman manager, he,d tell us it show gartsides vision or some other crap!Jon wrote: The only person who can change the way the club is financed is Eddie Davies. In fact thats not quite true, its Eddie Davies persuading someone to buy the club from him and to pour money in. So instead of getting at Gartside who is simply a glorified Chief Exec, perhaps you could all write sensible letters to people who are interested in buying a football club and have sufficient funds to invest. Until that happens we are what we are. A small club with big debts competing against the Readings of the world, NOT the Newcastles, Spurs, Arsenals and because of the wealth of their owners, Wigans, Portsmouths and West Hams. Find someone prepared to buy us before you antagonise Davies who has lets face it, funded the club to allow us to buy Anelka.Ahh...the old "we're in debt" That is one of the questions on my list. Where has all the money gone? Year of being in the Premier and yet we are still brassic. Someone is making money - it sure as hell not being invested in the club.
pie_in_the, sky says...
1:28pm Fri 26 Oct 07
trottersforever, bolton says...
1:32pm Fri 26 Oct 07
J4, Bolton says...
1:33pm Fri 26 Oct 07
pie_in_the wrote:Well we need to organise something now ready for sunday then don't we! All i was saying regards king eric is he was giving us some good suggestions and i asked if anyone else has some suggestions. Instead of trying to pick fights between our selves we should be sticking together!!!!
just before we assemble and man the barrackades,storm the whatever can someone tell the little red bloke with the loudhailer that we know what to do and how to organize ourselves without the patronizing suggestions from a manc clubber who moisturizes (allover probably!) ta luv
pie_in_the, sky says...
1:39pm Fri 26 Oct 07
lord kangana, Bolton says...
1:43pm Fri 26 Oct 07
jay, bolton says...
1:43pm Fri 26 Oct 07
Jon wrote:what are you on? stick your names and figures and dont be going on about research if you think any club makes their full in goings and out goings full public knowledge then your a very guillable person to put it polietly! All you talk about is financial waffle when the biggest financial mistake we could make is going down! 35million more to every club in the prem this year, like ive said before you make it sound like gartside and davies drive round in 2yr old ford focus,s. Also isnt warbys still part of our backers, im not sure but if they are still part of our backers aren,t they not worth 400million as a company? So if they are part of BWFC still, could they not spare a few quid to our club that is so poor we had to build a big fkoff hotel for some bizarre reason. Cant be that poor! Oh putting Megson in charge does show forward vision from Gartslime, end of october and hes showing us fans he seems to be planning for life in the fizzy pop!
jay wrote:Jay, OK Gartside and Eddie Davies out. Who do you want in to run and finance the club? Come on names and numbers. Who is going to invest the 15M that Davies has so far just to keep the club running? Who is going to want to invest 10% of their own wealth just to pay off interest charges only to take abuse from fans who haven't bothered doing any research? Who is going to invest in a club with dwindling crowds, that is losing money? You tell me, if Davies and Gartside go, who is coming in? I want names and figures. If you can't produce that then what are you asking for?King Cain wrote:i think your right mate, raoul duke and boring jon are both full of sh1t. they would stick up for gartside if he appointed a woman as manager i think and jon would come up with someway of saying it shows gartsides vision lol! I too have been BWFC since was 8, 22years now and been to the leyton orients, southends and northamptons. At the time they where good days and still enjoyed the matches, but as most of us on here we dont want to see them days ever again!Raoul Duke wrote:Raoul Duke, serious question; Are you BWFC TIL I DIE with a new log in? Same views, same frequency of posts, same attacks on anti Gartslime comments, questioning loyalties, alot of similarities. Also BWFC TIL I DIE has not commented for a while which coincides with your introduction to this site. There WAS a protest last night the evidence is in the attendance. Protests do work but it depends on how you protest, I protested by not attending last night and dont anyone try and question as to whether i am a fan or not. I doubt many on this site have supported the club as much as me over the last 20+ years. I am genuinely gutted about our clubs plight and the people running or should I say ruining our club.Jon wrote: Anyone chanting INSIDE the ground is NOT a fan of BWFC and as far as I'm concerned should be turned on by all the other decent fans WHO want our club to stay in the premiership. If you must protest, do it outside, although even that I find highly pathetic and quite frankly ridiculous.Well said that man.
kigbillspacked, bolton says...
1:45pm Fri 26 Oct 07
Trotter, Bolton says...
1:46pm Fri 26 Oct 07
BWFC-SAVE-OUR-CLUB, Bolton says...
1:50pm Fri 26 Oct 07
FX0000, bolton says...
1:51pm Fri 26 Oct 07
pie_in_the, sky says...
2:00pm Fri 26 Oct 07
BWFC-SAVE-OUR-CLUB, Bolton says...
2:01pm Fri 26 Oct 07
BWFC-SAVE-OUR-CLUB, OutSide The REEBOK says...
2:04pm Fri 26 Oct 07
James, Westhoughton says...
2:05pm Fri 26 Oct 07
BWFC-SAVE-OUR-CLUB, Bolton says...
2:08pm Fri 26 Oct 07
lord kangana, Bolton says...
2:10pm Fri 26 Oct 07
pie_in_the wrote:Banners will be drawn for Munich!!
it's called pressure and this can represent the begining of a consistent relentless phase of pressure rather than a brief storm he need to weather -which he is what he will be hoping it is. ....we decide which, meanwhile lord kangana got his war paint on and is holding up the banner superwhites international army marching and having a laugh as well!
King Cain, Bolton says...
2:11pm Fri 26 Oct 07
skyrack, radcliffe says...
2:27pm Fri 26 Oct 07
James, Westhoughton says...
2:28pm Fri 26 Oct 07
davel, n wales says...
2:31pm Fri 26 Oct 07
YouriLeGod, Bolton says...
2:35pm Fri 26 Oct 07
illy6b, Bolton says...
2:38pm Fri 26 Oct 07
markg, New Jersey says...
2:41pm Fri 26 Oct 07
Raoul Duke wrote:At last someone speaking some common sense on here.
Did you blame Gartside when your dog died? There's absolutely NOTHING the Chairman can do if the players aren't willing to perform on the pitch.
Normid Nomad, Howfen says...
2:49pm Fri 26 Oct 07
Jon wrote:You mean Jon who slagged off my intelligence and parentage earlier this year - I think that you should all realise by the manner of his posts that he has something to do with BWFC either Directly or Indirectly - He is a FIRST CLASS KN08 and it seems to me, would be the kind of person who could justify anything that is against the general concensus, just because he feels that he is educationally superior to anyone else on here ! Would be interested to know how many games 'Jon' has attended in his supporting life !
jay wrote:Jay, OK Gartside and Eddie Davies out. Who do you want in to run and finance the club? Come on names and numbers. Who is going to invest the 15M that Davies has so far just to keep the club running? Who is going to want to invest 10% of their own wealth just to pay off interest charges only to take abuse from fans who haven't bothered doing any research? Who is going to invest in a club with dwindling crowds, that is losing money? You tell me, if Davies and Gartside go, who is coming in? I want names and figures. If you can't produce that then what are you asking for?King Cain wrote:i think your right mate, raoul duke and boring jon are both full of sh1t. they would stick up for gartside if he appointed a woman as manager i think and jon would come up with someway of saying it shows gartsides vision lol! I too have been BWFC since was 8, 22years now and been to the leyton orients, southends and northamptons. At the time they where good days and still enjoyed the matches, but as most of us on here we dont want to see them days ever again!Raoul Duke wrote:Raoul Duke, serious question; Are you BWFC TIL I DIE with a new log in? Same views, same frequency of posts, same attacks on anti Gartslime comments, questioning loyalties, alot of similarities. Also BWFC TIL I DIE has not commented for a while which coincides with your introduction to this site. There WAS a protest last night the evidence is in the attendance. Protests do work but it depends on how you protest, I protested by not attending last night and dont anyone try and question as to whether i am a fan or not. I doubt many on this site have supported the club as much as me over the last 20+ years. I am genuinely gutted about our clubs plight and the people running or should I say ruining our club.Jon wrote: Anyone chanting INSIDE the ground is NOT a fan of BWFC and as far as I'm concerned should be turned on by all the other decent fans WHO want our club to stay in the premiership. If you must protest, do it outside, although even that I find highly pathetic and quite frankly ridiculous.Well said that man.
Trotter, Bolton says...
2:50pm Fri 26 Oct 07
markg wrote:What a FICKLE post
Raoul Duke wrote: Did you blame Gartside when your dog died? There's absolutely NOTHING the Chairman can do if the players aren't willing to perform on the pitch.At last someone speaking some common sense on here. Let Phil resign, who's going to take over as chairman? Any of you lot with any experience of running a business or a football club? Come and take charge, I'm sure Phil will find other less stressful things to do with his life. You lot are just doleys, who think you're so tough by spewing the vitriol on here. Why weren't you at the game last night protesting if you're so **** off? Oh that's right, the dole doesn't pay enough for the bus fare to Reebok! Where were the team a few years ago, when there was a different chairman and board of directors in charge? Who came in to take charge at the top and bring in a new manager and bring the team the success it deserves? Where are all these people with money that are looking to take over at the top? I don't see Atherton's spouting off that they want to come in and take charge. I don't see anyone from Reebok offering to put their money up to get a seat on the board. I wonder why no Russian, American or Thai money men have offered to buy Bolton? Phil should resign and see where the club ends up after he's gone. If there's no money coming into the club from the board, it will be a big trip to the bankruptcy courts. The Reebok stadium will be replaced by more shops. If anyone has any proof that Phil is taking money out of the club let's see you post your facts here with a traceable email address (that means no Yahoo, AOL or MSN addresses)
Normid Nomad, Howfen says...
2:53pm Fri 26 Oct 07
markg wrote:Get your facts right - I think that you will find that Reebok offered to buy three times (before the Adidas takeover) and were knocked back everytime, because the previous and present boards saw /see BWFC as a massive cash cow.
Raoul Duke wrote: Did you blame Gartside when your dog died? There's absolutely NOTHING the Chairman can do if the players aren't willing to perform on the pitch.At last someone speaking some common sense on here. Let Phil resign, who's going to take over as chairman? Any of you lot with any experience of running a business or a football club? Come and take charge, I'm sure Phil will find other less stressful things to do with his life. You lot are just doleys, who think you're so tough by spewing the vitriol on here. Why weren't you at the game last night protesting if you're so **** off? Oh that's right, the dole doesn't pay enough for the bus fare to Reebok! Where were the team a few years ago, when there was a different chairman and board of directors in charge? Who came in to take charge at the top and bring in a new manager and bring the team the success it deserves? Where are all these people with money that are looking to take over at the top? I don't see Atherton's spouting off that they want to come in and take charge. I don't see anyone from Reebok offering to put their money up to get a seat on the board. I wonder why no Russian, American or Thai money men have offered to buy Bolton? Phil should resign and see where the club ends up after he's gone. If there's no money coming into the club from the board, it will be a big trip to the bankruptcy courts. The Reebok stadium will be replaced by more shops. If anyone has any proof that Phil is taking money out of the club let's see you post your facts here with a traceable email address (that means no Yahoo, AOL or MSN addresses)
pie_in_the, S. I. A says...
2:56pm Fri 26 Oct 07
King Eric, . says...
3:03pm Fri 26 Oct 07
LOVE BWFC HATE GARTSIDE
Northwich White, Northwich says...
3:09pm Fri 26 Oct 07
pie_in_the, sky says...
3:17pm Fri 26 Oct 07
rc1972, Bolton says...
3:19pm Fri 26 Oct 07
pie_in_the, sky says...
3:46pm Fri 26 Oct 07
Northwich White, Northwich says...
3:47pm Fri 26 Oct 07
Northwich White, Northwich says...
3:49pm Fri 26 Oct 07
Trotter, Bolton says...
3:54pm Fri 26 Oct 07
Northwich White wrote:It is in the post as I type this responce, would not be surprised though if the address is deleted, so just keep posting the address on every thread.
Phil Gartside Laural Farm Reedgate Lane Antrobus Northwich Cheshire Get writing to the man that will destroy our club.This his address with his big stables etc....
illy6b, Bolton says...
3:55pm Fri 26 Oct 07
King Eric, . says...
3:58pm Fri 26 Oct 07
Posted by: pie_in_the, sky on 3:17pm today
a parasite, on this site, calling a parasite? triple wammy
a parasite, on this site, calling a parasite?
triple wammy
Trotter, Bolton says...
4:01pm Fri 26 Oct 07
illy6b wrote:Are you kidding man, the chap has just called every Bolton fan "Fickle" on national television, he also questioned the knowledge of every Bolton fan on HIS decisions that he has just made, he also lied while being filmed on Panorama, no end to this man's talents are there, besides he sends mail to MY house.
A bit out of order posting Gartside's address on here. The man is entitled to some privacy. Surely it's enough to write to him at the Reebok.
illy6b, Bolton says...
4:10pm Fri 26 Oct 07
Trotter wrote:Still no reason to harrass him at his home address. If he sends you post it can only be because you have provided BWFC with your address. Have a bit of decency. And football fans are notoriously fickle. At the end of the day we have Megson now so give him a chance. If he fails I'm sure Gartsides position will become untenable. How many people used to slag Allardyce off for the way his team played. No wonder he left.
illy6b wrote: A bit out of order posting Gartside's address on here. The man is entitled to some privacy. Surely it's enough to write to him at the Reebok.Are you kidding man, the chap has just called every Bolton fan "Fickle" on national television, he also questioned the knowledge of every Bolton fan on HIS decisions that he has just made, he also lied while being filmed on Panorama, no end to this man's talents are there, besides he sends mail to MY house. GARTSIDE OUT
King Eric, . says...
4:10pm Fri 26 Oct 07
birch, chorley says...
4:34pm Fri 26 Oct 07
Say it as it is wrote:there is only one way now, boycott the game, dont go, go to the ground and watch it in scotts bar over the road until he is out!
James wrote:Let's not give up guys. Protest must go on before and after the game not during. We need to continue supporting the the team but we need to give it Gartslime in the neck. This guy has had us over a barrel so many times before and always comes out smelling of roses-remember the carling cup final fiasco? and then trying to offload Jay Jay while telling the sheep(fans) he was going nowhere and don't forget he's had two shots at replacing Sam and has failed us both times(it's only a matter of time before Megson fails) No wonder BSA had enough. He must of been spinning yarns for Sam as well as us sheepMrWesrtToYou wrote: Sorry I was late for the start of the game the passion wagon broke down on the way to the reebok!! How did the protest go!! Are we protesting b4 the villa game??The protest was a damp squib. A few chanting and me holding up my "Gartside Out" poster. Did make the Braga fans laugh with my poster I made which was in Portugese - words to the effect of "Our Club Chairman Is a W*****". Hopefully, that will be in some newspaper in Portugal. Dont think there is enough will for a Gartside Out fight. The masses are apparently angry, but not to the extent they want to protest. I feel I did my bit...not sure what else is next now. It is 11am and the whole Gartside/Megson thing has taken over my life for two days. GARTSIDE OUT
ilovegravy, in me front room says...
4:43pm Fri 26 Oct 07
Normid Nomad, Howfen says...
4:48pm Fri 26 Oct 07
svengoli, says...
4:54pm Fri 26 Oct 07
Ed Page, says...
5:00pm Fri 26 Oct 07
Normid Nomad wrote:Gartside is out of order when he claims that
Everyone should order and send a ton of manure to Garshites house
anyone who knows football understands this appointmentBut I for one don't agree with posting his address on this site. Let's keep the fight clean guys. We can out him with our arguments but his actions don't warrant any form of direct action on his home. Let's keep his family out of this please.
Angus, Bury St Edmunds says...
5:01pm Fri 26 Oct 07
birch, chorley says...
5:03pm Fri 26 Oct 07
illy6b wrote:i am going to have a **** on his lawn, whos coming?
Trotter wrote:Still no reason to harrass him at his home address. If he sends you post it can only be because you have provided BWFC with your address. Have a bit of decency. And football fans are notoriously fickle. At the end of the day we have Megson now so give him a chance. If he fails I'm sure Gartsides position will become untenable. How many people used to slag Allardyce off for the way his team played. No wonder he left.illy6b wrote: A bit out of order posting Gartside's address on here. The man is entitled to some privacy. Surely it's enough to write to him at the Reebok.Are you kidding man, the chap has just called every Bolton fan "Fickle" on national television, he also questioned the knowledge of every Bolton fan on HIS decisions that he has just made, he also lied while being filmed on Panorama, no end to this man's talents are there, besides he sends mail to MY house. GARTSIDE OUT
ilovegravy, in me front room says...
5:06pm Fri 26 Oct 07
illy6b, Bolton says...
5:09pm Fri 26 Oct 07
birch wrote:well that's brilliant. How old are you? 10
illy6b wrote:i am going to have a **** on his lawn, whos coming?Trotter wrote:Still no reason to harrass him at his home address. If he sends you post it can only be because you have provided BWFC with your address. Have a bit of decency. And football fans are notoriously fickle. At the end of the day we have Megson now so give him a chance. If he fails I'm sure Gartsides position will become untenable. How many people used to slag Allardyce off for the way his team played. No wonder he left.illy6b wrote: A bit out of order posting Gartside's address on here. The man is entitled to some privacy. Surely it's enough to write to him at the Reebok.Are you kidding man, the chap has just called every Bolton fan "Fickle" on national television, he also questioned the knowledge of every Bolton fan on HIS decisions that he has just made, he also lied while being filmed on Panorama, no end to this man's talents are there, besides he sends mail to MY house. GARTSIDE OUT
jpl, bangkok says...
5:58pm Fri 26 Oct 07
King Eric, . says...
6:04pm Fri 26 Oct 07
trotter, Bolton(Horwich) says...
8:03pm Fri 26 Oct 07
Trotter, Bolton says...
9:01pm Fri 26 Oct 07
King Eric wrote:ha ha ha ha, good one Eric you sound like a very good diplomat my boy, throw away your spoon now that you have been stirring with.
Quite funny really but some guys I know were peed off with Ferdinand at United. A ban for missing a drug test, comes back and demands a pay rise. So they drove to his house in Wilmslow and confronted him. A week later he signed his new contract. King Eric does not in any way condone any direct action against Mr Gartside or any of the other bloodsuckers at BWFC. ;-)
Brownie, Bolton says...
9:41pm Fri 26 Oct 07
tax payer, Bolton says...
10:31am Sat 27 Oct 07
listen 2 me, lancashire says...
11:17pm Sat 27 Oct 07
Daxter wrote:hes nothing but bad look i say bing back sammy lee all for given sammy lad
Give Megson a chance.
BWFC-TIL-I-DIE, BOLTON says...
9:24am Sun 28 Oct 07
The front page of The Bolton News
Gary Megson: Now he's in the Reebok hot seat
Gary Megson and Phil Gartside share a joke
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Trotter, Bolton says...
8:01am Fri 26 Oct 07