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7:52am Friday 26th October 2007

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NEW Wanderers boss Gary Megson went on the charm offensive when he greeted his critics outside the Reebok.

The manager - in the post for only a few hours - was jeered by fans as he arrived to watch his new team.

But Megson met some of the supporters head on - and ended up signing autographs.

Earlier in the day, hundreds of disappointed supporters - hoping to see a bigger name at the helm - registered their anger at his appointment on The Bolton News website.

Many turned out to catch a glimpse of the new boss ahead of last night's Uefa Cup tie against SC Braga, but it proved to be a rocky reception for the new arrival from Leicester City.

Before watching the 1-1 draw from the stands, Megson appeared in the foyer at the club's main entrance and was greeted by jeers and chants from a group of young fans.

But Megson walked straight out to silence them, asking: "Who's doing the moaning out here?"

Fans then converged for autographs, some wished him good luck and all the best for the games ahead.

One asked him, "When are we going to start winning?" Megson replied: "We have got to start beating somebody soon."

He shook hands with Macauley Stephens, aged 12, from Deane, who said: "I just wanted to shake his hand because he's our manager now and I think he's going to do a good job."

But hundreds more supporters did not share the youngster's views.

Within an hour of Whites' chairman Phil Gartside announcing Megson's appointment just before 12.45pm yesterday, more than 70 readers had left comments on The Bolton News website criticising the appointment.

Gartside had declared: "Gary is the right man to take Bolton Wanderers forward".

But by teatime, about 350 had left messages, while others gathered at the Reebok Stadium to vent their frustration.

A small group of fans carrying posters bearing the slogans "Gartside Out" and "Sack the Board" stood outside chanting before kick-off, and the chants continued during the match.

One of the protesters, James Whelan, aged 31, from Westhoughton, said the appointment showed the club had "no ambition".

"A lot of people don't think that Megson is right. It's ludicrous. I feel, as a fan, I've got to make my voice heard," he said.

"I love this club and I want to see it be a success."

Lee Birchall, from Horwich, added: "Gary Megson is not the man for this job."

Bolton Wanderers Supporters Association chairman Tony Pearson said "the jury is out" on Megson but called on fellow fans to give the former West Bromwich Albion, Norwich City and Nottingham Forest manager time to get things right.

"I don't know whether he has got the kind of profile we were hoping a manager would have. We have to accept it. Somebody has to take charge of the team."

Mr Pearson said the key to the club's success in the past was stability and that Megson had a clean slate because he was not associated with the Allardyce regime.

He added: "When Sam Allardyce arrived from Notts County as a manager, his credentials were not that developed at that point and look what he achieved.

"I don't think it's fair to totally write Megson off this early in his career.

"Lets face it, if he gets three points against Aston Villa on Sunday, then things might change."


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Trotter, Bolton says...
8:01am Fri 26 Oct 07

GARSIDE OUT

Trotter, Bolton says...
8:02am Fri 26 Oct 07

GARTSIDE OUT

Trotter, Bolton says...
8:08am Fri 26 Oct 07

What a horrible feeling waking up after the night before when I was served up with a load of "Gartside Rubbish" at the Reebok, pain killers are not the answer to my "fans point of view" of things at my beloved club, it is more of getting rid of Garside and his rubbish, that needs sorting, bin day cannot come soon enough for Gartside so I can start waking up in the morning proud of my club: BOLTON WANDERERS FOOTBALL CLUB.

GARSIDE OUT

Raoul Duke, Priest Town says...
8:29am Fri 26 Oct 07

Did you blame Gartside when your dog died? There's absolutely NOTHING the Chairman can do if the players aren't willing to perform on the pitch.

peakydav, Daisy Hill says...
8:50am Fri 26 Oct 07

Last night was dreadful and decent team would have won 3-4 Nil - Awful! So gutted can only see the way down now!

gazz_ball - Supera Moras!, bolton says...
8:52am Fri 26 Oct 07

Raoul Duke wrote:
Did you blame Gartside when your dog died? There's absolutely NOTHING the Chairman can do if the players aren't willing to perform on the pitch.
Shouldn't you be in church somewhere, its not about the players, its about the lack of direction the club is going in

King Eric, ......... says...
8:53am Fri 26 Oct 07

For your protest to be effective it has to be co ordinated. A few kids with bedsheet slogans will have no impact at all.
What are your fanzines doing ?
If they are not leading this you may as well give up.

GC, Turton says...
8:55am Fri 26 Oct 07

Well I saw the rubbish served up last night and it will be a long time before I turn up at the Reebok again unless things change. I have critcised Megson's appointment on this site but I think it is because at the time I just could'nt understand it and I saw it as part of Gartside's plan to rip the club off even more. I honestly believed that he wanted to see the club relegated so that he could sell off the profitable parts, take the parachute money and disappear. However, I don't think that is really his intention, because he likes the gravy train he is on to much and he loves hobnobbing with the premierships finest. Perfect for his ego. So just why did he go for Megson? Well i think it is to do with tackling the problems in the dressing room. Lee was continually undermined by the players. Thats obvious. And he did not have the character to stand up to them. Megson is described as 'abrasive'. He will face down the awkward ones who saw off Lee. And who would you vote for as ringleader of the negative players? Well, not who you might think. My vote goes for Gary Speed. Everton fans will tell you he caused unrest in the dressing room when he was at Goodison. I believe he is the source of the problem here. Why was Guthrie subbed last night when Speed was having a stinker? Perhaps Knox was scared of bringing him off. OK lets see if Megson tackles Speed and his allies. If he does and the team work and effort increases, and the likes of Braaten and Guthrie can start to come through, then perhaps the appointment might not look so strange. Still think that Gartside is a pillock however. He got us in this mess in the first place.

Mixu Pantiliners, Dublin says...
9:07am Fri 26 Oct 07

Where do we go from here? I was very much in the anti-Megson camp, but the fact is that he is now the man entrusted with turning things around. His track record is appalling, but like it or not he's now the manager. I love BWFC, but if we go down I don't think we'll get back up. Much as I'd hate to see his smug grin I really hope that Gartsnide is right this time and that Gary can turn things around. I think we all agree on one thing, if Megson fails, Gartside HAS to go with him.

Fans - Protests and complaining can only damage the club from now on. This ISN'T the fresh start we wanted, but it IS a fresh start of sorts. There are 8 premiership matches before Christmas (see below). Last seasons Bolton team would have been looking at
15-20 points. Anything less than 12 points from this run of games is not good enough. We would still be in the bottom 5 depending on results elsewhere, but 1.5 points per game is a good run-rate (to start with) and if continued would guide us to safety with 47 points (10th-13th spot based on the last 3 seasons). If Megson pulls in anything less than 10 points from these 8 games he HAS to go, while there's still a chance for somebody else to come in and pull off the great escape.

Gary - If you can get 15 or more from these 8 games and keep us in Europe you will have proved us all wrong. This is your minimum 8 game / 12 point target:

Aston Villa (H) - 1
West Ham United (A) - 1
Middlesbrough (H) - 3
Manchester United (H) - 0
Liverpool (A) - 0
Wigan Athletic (H) - 3
Manchester City (A) - 1
Birmingham City (H) - 3

Fans - If we are in on his case from day one, it will undermine him and hit team morale. Then, when he does fail he will only blame the fans for not giving him a chance. He'll long gone while we struggle against the likes of Blackpool. No true BWFC fan wants that. We can't change the manager, for now, so lets give "GFM's super white army" our full backing until Christmas and see what happens..

Raoul Duke, Priest Town says...
9:08am Fri 26 Oct 07

gazz_ball - Supera Moras! wrote:
Raoul Duke wrote: Did you blame Gartside when your dog died? There's absolutely NOTHING the Chairman can do if the players aren't willing to perform on the pitch.
Shouldn't you be in church somewhere, its not about the players, its about the lack of direction the club is going in
No, I'm not religious. So it's a LACK of direction now is it? Yesterday the direction was down, now we don't have one - that's quite an improvement!

YouriLeGod, Bolton says...
9:14am Fri 26 Oct 07

Whether we like it or not and for the record I don't, we are now stuck with Megson as manager.

We are bottom of the Premiership and shouldn't be with the players we have. We need to start winning soon and the dressing room needs to be united.

Who knows if Megson is the man for the job? I hope he is, as I am a supporter and will follow the team as I have done for 30 years in all 4 divisions.

The sour taste of this whole episode is left by our chairman appointing Megson's agent as a person charged with finding a new manager.

This needs to be investigated by the higher authorities as surely as Graeme Souness implies, there is a conflict of interests.

I appreciate feelings are high and respect peoples opinions to demonstrate, send back season tickets or do whatever they want to do. After all it is a democracy.

But, at the end of the day, Bolton Wanderers will go on long after both manager and chairman have left and hopefully the club will not be too scarred from this sordid episode.

The thing I have learned from the events of the last few days is that, despite what my season ticket says, this is NOT my club anymore. We have no say whatsoever. And that is the sad point about the whole thing.

If our chairman has anything about him and is true to his season ticket statement, he would appoint a fan as a non executive member of the board or at least give us some explanation as to the events of the last couple of weeks.

I won't be holding my breath though.

Forza Whites!

cadders1, bolton says...
9:15am Fri 26 Oct 07

Like it or not Megson is our manager (he wouldn't be my tenth choice let alone first!)but he is here so we all need to get behind the team for sunday and get three points.
Lets not forget this is about Bolton Wanderers not one individual.
I firmly believe we would have been in the crap this year even under FSA, maybe not bottom but darn close. He knew that, thats one of the reasons (PG was the other)why he left.
As mentioned above FSA had no history when he took over but the difference is we were a struggling championship side then not a prem side still in europe as now.
If speed is the reason for the unrest then maybe its time to say goodbye and blood the new players, he can't have many miles left in his legs anyway, and he was awful last night.
When we played the in ya face, long ball football and won then it was a means to an end, when we lost it just looked ugly. That said I would settle for that on Sunday.
We need to be realistic that for the last few years we have punched above our weight as FSA played a style that suited the players he could afford (Anelka apart). We need to get back to that kind of mentality and maybe (just maybe, fingers well crossed) Megson might do it!!

Raoul Duke, Priest Town says...
9:16am Fri 26 Oct 07

Careful mate. Rational-thinkers get nothing but abuse round here.

davel, n wales says...
9:17am Fri 26 Oct 07

GUTLESS THATS WHAT BOLTON FANS ARE YOU LET GARTSIDE TAKE THE **** OUT OF THE CLUB AND SIT BACK AND TAKE IT .I WAS THERE PROTESTING ME AND ANOTHER BLOKE ,NO ONE ELSE SAYING NOTHING , THAT IS WHAT IS A DISGRACE .THEN WHAT DO YOU DO INSTEAD OF GETTING BEHIND THE TEAM YOU START CHANTING SACK THE BOARD MUPPETS YOU AND GARTSIDE DESERVE EACH OTHER.AS FOR GARTSIDE CLUELESS LOW LIFE SCUM .OH AND ALL THE DICKHEADS THAT SLAGGED BIG SAM WHAT DO YOU THINK NOW.

lewis-bwfc, Reebok Stadium says...
9:28am Fri 26 Oct 07

I was there when these fans greeted megson, they were singing songs about him e.g theres only one gary megson, this probably made him feel good, when most of us no that we don't want him. about 12 of the 10000 fans last night wanted him as manager.

Brak, Bolton says...
9:28am Fri 26 Oct 07

Raoul Duke, chill buddy. U sound like u need a holiday.

Raoul Duke, Priest Town says...
9:34am Fri 26 Oct 07

Brak wrote:
Raoul Duke, chill buddy. U sound like u need a holiday.
??? I'm cool as a cucumber mate. It's people like davel that are throwing the tantrums.

Jon, Bolton says...
9:38am Fri 26 Oct 07

Time to back the club unless we want to go down.

Protests over, time to see what Megson can do and to give him our complete backing.

lewis-bwfc, Reebok Stadium says...
9:41am Fri 26 Oct 07

Jon wrote:
Time to back the club unless we want to go down. Protests over, time to see what Megson can do and to give him our complete backing.
I completely agree let's get behind the boy's and fight through this we have the team and the fans we just need it all to come together!!

Durks, Brockhall says...
9:51am Fri 26 Oct 07

I hold Gartside accountable for making bad decision after bad decision and I hope that he falls on his sword if/when we get relegated at the end of the season. I did not want Megson and I still do not want Megson but there is nothing I can do about it now as he is here. Despite the view that hundreds of supporters were unhappy with the appointment, it really did not come accross last night apart from 20-30 guys singing "who the flukc is Gary Megson" and "Gartside is a wankler" which Gartside probably could not hear from where he was sat. It is a complete mess but the fact is that we will all still be supporting Bolton long after Megson has gone.

Raoul Duke, Priest Town says...
9:54am Fri 26 Oct 07

Finally! A lot of you must be calming down after throwing your dummies out of the pram yesterday.

chrisfarn, bolton says...
9:58am Fri 26 Oct 07

lol, you know what makes this much much much funnier? Martin Jol is now out of a job, the man a lot of you wanted as manager. Hysterical. A bigger complete balls up and shambles I dont think could be made anywhere.
Laughing stock of football.

burndenbob, standish says...
10:00am Fri 26 Oct 07

Like a previous post said, Gary Speed was useless last night and i was gobsmacked when first Guthrie and then Ricky were taken off and he was still on!There seems to be a major problem there,still believe he had a lot to do with undermining SL, his legs are gone and its time to drop him, don't want the same situation as Nolan,playing someone for 2 years who is just not up to it.Lets see if Megson really can make the decisions.

Raoul Duke, Priest Town says...
10:01am Fri 26 Oct 07

chrisfarn wrote:
lol, you know what makes this much much much funnier? Martin Jol is now out of a job, the man a lot of you wanted as manager. Hysterical. A bigger complete balls up and shambles I dont think could be made anywhere. Laughing stock of football.
Gary Megson hasn't even been in charge for a single game yet you plank.

Trotter, Bolton says...
10:02am Fri 26 Oct 07

Raoul Duke wrote:
Did you blame Gartside when your dog died? There's absolutely NOTHING the Chairman can do if the players aren't willing to perform on the pitch.
Listen matey, if you are surronded by a bunch of people who threaten you (in this case MY club) then what you do is go for the ring leader first, Gartside is the ring leader in the sense that he is suppose to be leading MY club in the quest of Premiership respectability and have the right people in place to do that, if you think that the right people are in place, then go and stand behind Gartside, it might get to about the fizzy pop league before I get round to you, but believe me, I will get to you if Gartside is involved with MY club.

GARTSIDE OUT

martin1980, bolton says...
10:03am Fri 26 Oct 07

i wonder if there will be 10,000 against man utd at home ? i doubt it its about time the people who say they are bolton fans turn out to support the team , last night was £15 no excuses as one bloke put it to me in the pub after the game hed rather watch it on t.v as it was cheaper what a muppet as he spent £16 on beer and £20 in the bandit !!!! come on lets get behind megson we have no choice and lets keep this club where it belongs

King Eric, ......... says...
10:07am Fri 26 Oct 07

Blimey the protest didn't last long.
Like an Italian tank.


Pedro, Bolton says...
10:08am Fri 26 Oct 07

I was waiting to meet up with friends outside the Reebok for half an hour or so before the game last night and I realised even then, that the people who spout the vitriol on this website are in a VAST bold]MINORITY.

The vast MAJORITY of Bolton supporters were passing me in their hundreds as they do before every game. Decent, honest, good natured Bolton folk. They will never get caught up in your protests. They just want to see their team stay up in the Premiership. They will probably have been as disappointed as I was that the board had showed lack of ambition. They do not visit this website and probably never will. They will continue to come to the Reebok hoping every match that we will win and progress up the table and get ourselves out of this mess. They are NOT gutless, they are realists in this cloud cuckoo land of current Premiership Football. They care about the team.

Come on Gary and the boys! Good luck to all of you. We need it! We will NOT go down if we stick together and support our team like never before.

Remember the old saying? United (ooo don't like that word!) We stand - Divided we fall.

Raoul Duke, Priest Town says...
10:09am Fri 26 Oct 07

Trotter wrote:
Raoul Duke wrote: Did you blame Gartside when your dog died? There's absolutely NOTHING the Chairman can do if the players aren't willing to perform on the pitch.
Listen matey, if you are surronded by a bunch of people who threaten you (in this case MY club) then what you do is go for the ring leader first, Gartside is the ring leader in the sense that he is suppose to be leading MY club in the quest of Premiership respectability and have the right people in place to do that, if you think that the right people are in place, then go and stand behind Gartside, it might get to about the fizzy pop league before I get round to you, but believe me, I will get to you if Gartside is involved with MY club. GARTSIDE OUT
I have NEVER said Gary Megson is the right man. How can anybody know either way before he's even had a single game?
Even if we lose every single game for the rest of the season, I'll still be there next year, Gartside or no Gartside. I can't help it.

chrisfarn, bolton says...
10:09am Fri 26 Oct 07

Raoul Duke wrote:
chrisfarn wrote: lol, you know what makes this much much much funnier? Martin Jol is now out of a job, the man a lot of you wanted as manager. Hysterical. A bigger complete balls up and shambles I dont think could be made anywhere. Laughing stock of football.
Gary Megson hasn't even been in charge for a single game yet you plank.
And did I say he had? from someone who was busy going on about abuse and people throwing their dummies out of the pram Raoul you just did an extremely good job of joining them and at the same time kind of did in your post about rational thinking. Oh dear.
Most Bolton fans did not want Megson, none too surprisingly, they wanted Jol. That was the point I made, it was accurate. So your statement just undid all your posts regarding your opinion of others didnt it hmmm and I dont feel I have to lower myself to the same abuse throwing level to respond, I`ll leave you to prove what you are without my help. You already did.

Say it as it is, Bolton says...
10:11am Fri 26 Oct 07

What all the fans need to remember is Twisted Phil and Eddie Davies don't give a toss what the fans think or say while the sky tv money is coming in because the revenue from the gate receipts is peanuts compared to that. So that's why the fans no longer have any power. Once gain an example of the game being taken away from the working class.

Mark, Leicester says...
10:22am Fri 26 Oct 07

This is all so familiar, exactly like the Leicester Mercury wedsite six weeks ago. We didn't want Megson then and look what happened: We're in a worse position than we were before! We may have the best defense in the Championship, but if you play nine at the back you probably will, our top scorers this year are both defenders who got their goals from corners and that tells you everything. You'll have one or two of the "give him a chance" merchants and we did, but they need to ask them selves a) are they really passionate supporters of BWFC? and b) do they actually know anything about football at all? Megson is useless and I feel sorry for the genuine fans, who should be given more credit as they know what is needed better than Gartside by the looks of it. Jewell, Sounness even, bug Megson? I'm just glad were shot of him...

Chris, Rishton says...
10:24am Fri 26 Oct 07

As a season ticket holder of some 50 years, I feel that its about time I had my say.
The appointment of Gary Megson does not thrill me one bit-his track record is terrible-but I dont blame him for taking the job,and I hope he succeeds.
My greater concern is about Phil Gartside, and I want to make the following points:-
1 This club is currently owned by Eddie Davies but it BELONGS to me and all the other fans of BWFC - and, indeed, to the people of Bolton - never forget this vital point.
2 Does Gartside accept that HE made a mistake when LSL was appointed?
3 Will HE accept the blame if Megson does not keep us in the Prem?
4 If the answer to points 2&3 is "yes" - and it must be - then will he resign?
Its as simple as this - Gartside has lost the respect of the people to whom the club BELONGS.

Raoul Duke, Priest Town says...
10:27am Fri 26 Oct 07

The only reason I'm saying "give him a chance" is that there's no other option. Do you really think any football club would sack a manager before he's even had a game, just because the fans want it? You know, if fans picked managers, Ferguson would have been sacked from the Redsox within his first 6 months.

Pedro, Bolton says...
10:29am Fri 26 Oct 07

Cue King Eric!!!!!

James, Westhoughton says...
10:32am Fri 26 Oct 07

Raoul Duke wrote:
The only reason I'm saying "give him a chance" is that there's no other option. Do you really think any football club would sack a manager before he's even had a game, just because the fans want it? You know, if fans picked managers, Ferguson would have been sacked from the Redsox within his first 6 months.
They should give him the same amount of time they gave Sammy Lee. Anything less than or equal to 5 points, then he should be out. But that wont happen...Gartside has made a rod for his own back now, egotistical maniac he is.

Like I have said - my protest is against Gartside NOT Megson or the team. Megson is safe for the time being. Of course, it is a results game.

Think Bolton fans deserve better than the blinkered ambition of a self-hyped Chairman.

The reality is, the fans can swivel. The club could still pay players wages if no one turned up and no one bought a ST. So, what do we do? Sit in front of our computers or make it known to Gartside that we're not an passive entity he can frogmarch over? It is one of the few times I wish we were in France, those guys will strike and protest at the smallest thing. We need a bit of that spirit in Bolton.

Trotter, Bolton says...
10:33am Fri 26 Oct 07

Mark wrote:
This is all so familiar, exactly like the Leicester Mercury wedsite six weeks ago. We didn't want Megson then and look what happened: We're in a worse position than we were before! We may have the best defense in the Championship, but if you play nine at the back you probably will, our top scorers this year are both defenders who got their goals from corners and that tells you everything. You'll have one or two of the "give him a chance" merchants and we did, but they need to ask them selves a) are they really passionate supporters of BWFC? and b) do they actually know anything about football at all? Megson is useless and I feel sorry for the genuine fans, who should be given more credit as they know what is needed better than Gartside by the looks of it. Jewell, Sounness even, bug Megson? I'm just glad were shot of him...
Cheers for the trouble you have taken to post on here Mark , fans we both are and I for one can see what is coming for my club, I have turned my attention to Gartside now and until he goes then I fear the very worse for my club, I sang his praises through the Panorama programme when he tried to unload Jay Jay and then the Allardyce episode when I thought Big Sam was to blame, how wrong was I? it is now stirring me and all the Bolton fans point blank in the face that Gartside must go, on the subject of Gary Megson, then he is just a pawn in Gartside's demise of MY club.

Good luck for the season Mark but I feel we need as much if not more luck.

GARTSIDE OUT

Trotter, Bolton says...
10:36am Fri 26 Oct 07

Chris wrote:
As a season ticket holder of some 50 years, I feel that its about time I had my say. The appointment of Gary Megson does not thrill me one bit-his track record is terrible-but I dont blame him for taking the job,and I hope he succeeds. My greater concern is about Phil Gartside, and I want to make the following points:- 1 This club is currently owned by Eddie Davies but it BELONGS to me and all the other fans of BWFC - and, indeed, to the people of Bolton - never forget this vital point. 2 Does Gartside accept that HE made a mistake when LSL was appointed? 3 Will HE accept the blame if Megson does not keep us in the Prem? 4 If the answer to points 2&3 is "yes" - and it must be - then will he resign? Its as simple as this - Gartside has lost the respect of the people to whom the club BELONGS.
Spot on Chris .........

IT IS OUR CLUB - NOT GARTSIDE'S

GARTSIDE OUT

Daxter, says...
10:42am Fri 26 Oct 07

Give Megson a chance.

Mixu Pantiliners, Dublin says...
10:43am Fri 26 Oct 07

James wrote:
Raoul Duke wrote: The only reason I'm saying "give him a chance" is that there's no other option. Do you really think any football club would sack a manager before he's even had a game, just because the fans want it? You know, if fans picked managers, Ferguson would have been sacked from the Redsox within his first 6 months.
They should give him the same amount of time they gave Sammy Lee. Anything less than or equal to 5 points, then he should be out. But that wont happen...Gartside has made a rod for his own back now, egotistical maniac he is. Like I have said - my protest is against Gartside NOT Megson or the team. Megson is safe for the time being. Of course, it is a results game. Think Bolton fans deserve better than the blinkered ambition of a self-hyped Chairman. The reality is, the fans can swivel. The club could still pay players wages if no one turned up and no one bought a ST. So, what do we do? Sit in front of our computers or make it known to Gartside that we're not an passive entity he can frogmarch over? It is one of the few times I wish we were in France, those guys will strike and protest at the smallest thing. We need a bit of that spirit in Bolton.
Roughly the same amount of time agreed. BUT I'd expect a lot more than 5 points from 10 games. A team who averages 1 point per game all season almost certainly goes down, let alone half a point per game. As said in my previous post, only 12 points from the next 8 games is an achievement and anything less than 10 should warrant a sacking of both manager and chairman!

superjohn, bolton says...
10:44am Fri 26 Oct 07

Trotter - I'm not up for a barney with you but your position surprises me, not that I blame you for being Anti-Gartside but you are normally a sensible voice on this website. The reason I posted many complaints about LSL was because I thought by sacking him we would then get a better manager. I can't say definitively yet but Megson doesn't have the look (based on his previous record) as someone who will improve things. I'm also deeply suspicious about the fact that Megson's mate and ex-agent was involved in the interview process. However, I don't know what would improve if PG did resign. Who would be the next Chairman? Does anyone know? And surely despite our misgivings we have to get behind Megson don't we? I think Sunday's game is massive, Villa are good this year and if Megson can give us a win straight up the feelgood factor will surely come back. I didn't see a lot of protesters last night, Trotter.

PJ, Bolton says...
10:49am Fri 26 Oct 07

WE WERE BIZZ LAST NIGHT. I HOPE MEGSON CAN PICK A BETTER SQUAD. WE BADLY NEED A WIN. WE LOOKED LIKE A JOKE LAST NIGHT.

James, Westhoughton says...
10:51am Fri 26 Oct 07

superjohn wrote:
Trotter - I'm not up for a barney with you but your position surprises me, not that I blame you for being Anti-Gartside but you are normally a sensible voice on this website. The reason I posted many complaints about LSL was because I thought by sacking him we would then get a better manager. I can't say definitively yet but Megson doesn't have the look (based on his previous record) as someone who will improve things. I'm also deeply suspicious about the fact that Megson's mate and ex-agent was involved in the interview process. However, I don't know what would improve if PG did resign. Who would be the next Chairman? Does anyone know? And surely despite our misgivings we have to get behind Megson don't we? I think Sunday's game is massive, Villa are good this year and if Megson can give us a win straight up the feelgood factor will surely come back. I didn't see a lot of protesters last night, Trotter.
There were not a lot of protestors last night, personally I find it highly dissapointing.

IF we can get PG removed as chairman, probably not a lot of things will change. It will show (to some degree) the fans are not here to be walked all over, like we have been for years and years.

If nothing else happens, I just want to make Gartside know he has burned his bridges with a lot of the Bolton fans.

White58, Bolton says...
10:54am Fri 26 Oct 07

chrisfarn wrote:
Raoul Duke wrote:
chrisfarn wrote: lol, you know what makes this much much much funnier? Martin Jol is now out of a job, the man a lot of you wanted as manager. Hysterical. A bigger complete balls up and shambles I dont think could be made anywhere. Laughing stock of football.
Gary Megson hasn't even been in charge for a single game yet you plank.
And did I say he had? from someone who was busy going on about abuse and people throwing their dummies out of the pram Raoul you just did an extremely good job of joining them and at the same time kind of did in your post about rational thinking. Oh dear.
Most Bolton fans did not want Megson, none too surprisingly, they wanted Jol. That was the point I made, it was accurate. So your statement just undid all your posts regarding your opinion of others didnt it hmmm and I dont feel I have to lower myself to the same abuse throwing level to respond, I`ll leave you to prove what you are without my help. You already did.
You're missing the point, ChrisFarn. SOME fans might have wanted Jol, the Board & PG didn't. They wouldn'd have had him even if he'd been free. So your original post was mistaken.
There - hope that's reasonable enough for you.

trotter40, australia says...
10:57am Fri 26 Oct 07

What a shambles this is.Gartshite is exactly that shxte.No disrespect to Megson (probably a nice chappy)but this appointment was not the right choice as 99.99 % of Bolotn fans will tell u.There were other candidates far more qualified who would of loved to have the chance.Everyone know Martin Jol would be sacked so why did plip Gartshite jump the gun.Im sure Jol would of took the job to prove to everyone hes a good manager.Would of been sweet for him to prove the Spuds wrong to sack him.When Lsl got the flick i bet no one who follows this beloved team of ours even put Megson forward as a candiadate.I picked 10 easily before him-Coleman,Jewel,Br
uce,Jol,Collins,Phil Brown,the special one,Hullier,Hoddle,R
eid even Souness way before Ginger head .Wot is Gartside thinking here ,quote the right man for the job.Who says just u ,frigging plonk .Hope Megson can turn things around just for the sake of the club.Roll on the day Gartside leaves .

MrWesrtToYou, Bolton says...
10:57am Fri 26 Oct 07

Sorry I was late for the start of the game the passion wagon broke down on the way to the reebok!! How did the protest go!!
Are we protesting b4 the villa game??

superkris, Manchester says...
10:58am Fri 26 Oct 07

What a bad peformance last night.. and im sorry to say things can only get worse with Megson in charge...

Say it as it is, Bolton says...
11:01am Fri 26 Oct 07

White58 wrote:
chrisfarn wrote:
Raoul Duke wrote:
chrisfarn wrote: lol, you know what makes this much much much funnier? Martin Jol is now out of a job, the man a lot of you wanted as manager. Hysterical. A bigger complete balls up and shambles I dont think could be made anywhere. Laughing stock of football.
Gary Megson hasn't even been in charge for a single game yet you plank.
And did I say he had? from someone who was busy going on about abuse and people throwing their dummies out of the pram Raoul you just did an extremely good job of joining them and at the same time kind of did in your post about rational thinking. Oh dear. Most Bolton fans did not want Megson, none too surprisingly, they wanted Jol. That was the point I made, it was accurate. So your statement just undid all your posts regarding your opinion of others didnt it hmmm and I dont feel I have to lower myself to the same abuse throwing level to respond, I`ll leave you to prove what you are without my help. You already did.
You're missing the point, ChrisFarn. SOME fans might have wanted Jol, the Board & PG didn't. They wouldn'd have had him even if he'd been free. So your original post was mistaken. There - hope that's reasonable enough for you.
Not sure. I think PG would take anything cheap or free

James, Westhoughton says...
11:02am Fri 26 Oct 07

MrWesrtToYou wrote:
Sorry I was late for the start of the game the passion wagon broke down on the way to the reebok!! How did the protest go!! Are we protesting b4 the villa game??
The protest was a damp squib. A few chanting and me holding up my "Gartside Out" poster. Did make the Braga fans laugh with my poster I made which was in Portugese - words to the effect of "Our Club Chairman Is a W*****". Hopefully, that will be in some newspaper in Portugal.

Dont think there is enough will for a Gartside Out fight. The masses are apparently angry, but not to the extent they want to protest.

I feel I did my bit...not sure what else is next now. It is 11am and the whole Gartside/Megson thing has taken over my life for two days.

GARTSIDE OUT

Trotter, Bolton says...
11:09am Fri 26 Oct 07

superjohn wrote:
Trotter - I'm not up for a barney with you but your position surprises me, not that I blame you for being Anti-Gartside but you are normally a sensible voice on this website. The reason I posted many complaints about LSL was because I thought by sacking him we would then get a better manager. I can't say definitively yet but Megson doesn't have the look (based on his previous record) as someone who will improve things. I'm also deeply suspicious about the fact that Megson's mate and ex-agent was involved in the interview process. However, I don't know what would improve if PG did resign. Who would be the next Chairman? Does anyone know? And surely despite our misgivings we have to get behind Megson don't we? I think Sunday's game is massive, Villa are good this year and if Megson can give us a win straight up the feelgood factor will surely come back. I didn't see a lot of protesters last night, Trotter.
superjohn

If you are asking me for answers on the subject of bwfc then normally I can give you chapter and verse, what disturbs me at the present time is that I can see into the Gartside future, this is because of his past and deceit of us the supporters, for a marraige to work between supporters and a chairman, then the chairman must be honest and that is what Gartside has not been, he even has the audacity to print a slogan on my season tkt that it is my/our club, I have woken up in the last few days and smelt the coffee and soon I will have the smell of Coca cola, which I do not want, the more people who write into the club complaining the better, the likes of James I do admire, but my days of protesting outside a footy club have gone, but I do admire James for it.

I have supported my club for too long to give up on them now and I will always support them, I just want the best for them.

GARTSIDE OUT

Say it as it is, Bolton says...
11:13am Fri 26 Oct 07

James wrote:
MrWesrtToYou wrote: Sorry I was late for the start of the game the passion wagon broke down on the way to the reebok!! How did the protest go!! Are we protesting b4 the villa game??
The protest was a damp squib. A few chanting and me holding up my "Gartside Out" poster. Did make the Braga fans laugh with my poster I made which was in Portugese - words to the effect of "Our Club Chairman Is a W*****". Hopefully, that will be in some newspaper in Portugal. Dont think there is enough will for a Gartside Out fight. The masses are apparently angry, but not to the extent they want to protest. I feel I did my bit...not sure what else is next now. It is 11am and the whole Gartside/Megson thing has taken over my life for two days. GARTSIDE OUT
Let's not give up guys. Protest must go on before and after the game not during. We need to continue supporting the the team but we need to give it Gartslime in the neck. This guy has had us over a barrel so many times before and always comes out smelling of roses-remember the carling cup final fiasco? and then trying to offload Jay Jay while telling the sheep(fans) he was going nowhere and don't forget he's had two shots at replacing Sam and has failed us both times(it's only a matter of time before Megson fails) No wonder BSA had enough. He must of been spinning yarns for Sam as well as us sheep

superjohn, bolton says...
11:14am Fri 26 Oct 07

James wrote:
superjohn wrote:
Trotter - I'm not up for a barney with you but your position surprises me, not that I blame you for being Anti-Gartside but you are normally a sensible voice on this website. The reason I posted many complaints about LSL was because I thought by sacking him we would then get a better manager. I can't say definitively yet but Megson doesn't have the look (based on his previous record) as someone who will improve things. I'm also deeply suspicious about the fact that Megson's mate and ex-agent was involved in the interview process. However, I don't know what would improve if PG did resign. Who would be the next Chairman? Does anyone know? And surely despite our misgivings we have to get behind Megson don't we? I think Sunday's game is massive, Villa are good this year and if Megson can give us a win straight up the feelgood factor will surely come back. I didn't see a lot of protesters last night, Trotter.
There were not a lot of protestors last night, personally I find it highly dissapointing.

IF we can get PG removed as chairman, probably not a lot of things will change. It will show (to some degree) the fans are not here to be walked all over, like we have been for years and years.

If nothing else happens, I just want to make Gartside know he has burned his bridges with a lot of the Bolton fans.
He's a tw@t and he's made the club a laughing stock, I couldn't agree more.

lord kangana, Bolton says...
11:24am Fri 26 Oct 07

davel wrote:
GUTLESS THATS WHAT BOLTON FANS ARE YOU LET GARTSIDE TAKE THE **** OUT OF THE CLUB AND SIT BACK AND TAKE IT .I WAS THERE PROTESTING ME AND ANOTHER BLOKE ,NO ONE ELSE SAYING NOTHING , THAT IS WHAT IS A DISGRACE .THEN WHAT DO YOU DO INSTEAD OF GETTING BEHIND THE TEAM YOU START CHANTING SACK THE BOARD MUPPETS YOU AND GARTSIDE DESERVE EACH OTHER.AS FOR GARTSIDE CLUELESS LOW LIFE SCUM .OH AND ALL THE DICKHEADS THAT SLAGGED BIG SAM WHAT DO YOU THINK NOW.
Couldn't agree more - chanting in the stadium gets us nowhere, proper protest might.

Sadly the apathy and follow-the-herd mentality of many fans of our club means we get the club we deserve.

BWFC
RIP

Trotter, Bolton says...
11:28am Fri 26 Oct 07

Anybody know if there is a press conference today regarding our new manager?

GARTSIDE OUT

Ju Ju Ju darby, Farnworth says...
11:34am Fri 26 Oct 07

martin1980 wrote:
i wonder if there will be 10,000 against man utd at home ? i doubt it its about time the people who say they are bolton fans turn out to support the team , last night was £15 no excuses as one bloke put it to me in the pub after the game hed rather watch it on t.v as it was cheaper what a muppet as he spent £16 on beer and £20 in the bandit !!!! come on lets get behind megson we have no choice and lets keep this club where it belongs
Totally agree. No matter what is going on at our club, 10,000 for a UEFA cup match at £10/£15 a ticket is pathetic. There are far too many fans that have become complacement over the last 5 years & have forgot where we came from. Maybe a club with our current fanbase can only attract mangers of the calibre of megson. Its now time, more than ever before, to turn out at the Reebok & make some noise & get behind the manager of BWFC. Staying away will certainly not help the new manager or the players get out of the current mess we are in.
BWFC FOREVER !!

King Eric, . says...
11:36am Fri 26 Oct 07

The protest was laughed at on R5 this morning. Some kids chanting, Megson gets out of his car,goes over to them, they end up having their photos taken with him.

Hardly the Burmese monks was it ?
:-))))

Trotter, Bolton says...
11:39am Fri 26 Oct 07

King Eric wrote:
The protest was laughed at on R5 this morning. Some kids chanting, Megson gets out of his car,goes over to them, they end up having their photos taken with him. Hardly the Burmese monks was it ? :-))))
If you are a football fan Eric then you would have sympathy for any fan who cares about his/her club, the fact that you mock these fans then tells me that you are not a fan.

GARTSIDE OUT

Jon, Bolton says...
11:40am Fri 26 Oct 07

Anyone chanting INSIDE the ground is NOT a fan of BWFC and as far as I'm concerned should be turned on by all the other decent fans WHO want our club to stay in the premiership.

If you must protest, do it outside, although even that I find highly pathetic and quite frankly ridiculous.

Raoul Duke, Priest Town says...
11:42am Fri 26 Oct 07

Jon wrote:
Anyone chanting INSIDE the ground is NOT a fan of BWFC and as far as I'm concerned should be turned on by all the other decent fans WHO want our club to stay in the premiership. If you must protest, do it outside, although even that I find highly pathetic and quite frankly ridiculous.
Well said that man.

James, Westhoughton says...
11:43am Fri 26 Oct 07

Jon wrote:
Anyone chanting INSIDE the ground is NOT a fan of BWFC and as far as I'm concerned should be turned on by all the other decent fans WHO want our club to stay in the premiership. If you must protest, do it outside, although even that I find highly pathetic and quite frankly ridiculous.
Protest against Gartside and the running of the club.

Not against the team or new manager

trotter40, australia says...
11:50am Fri 26 Oct 07

Eh Jon so what are people suppose to do then.Take this down lying and do nothing.Most people are gutted with what gartside has done to bwfc.Big sam was a legend and would still be here but for pg and his lack of fundings.Bolton had never had it so good .So why no money to buy decent defenders which we so badly need .Were has the sky money gone.The only way fans know how to fight back is protest or not go to the game which was in clear evidence last night.Be lucky to get 20,000 on sunday.Villa will bring 5,000.Its a shambles and has been since big sam left.Funny how Newcastle started so well tells u everything about the man.Best manager we have ever had.

Mixu Pantiliners, Dublin says...
11:50am Fri 26 Oct 07

lord kangana wrote:
davel wrote: GUTLESS THATS WHAT BOLTON FANS ARE YOU LET GARTSIDE TAKE THE **** OUT OF THE CLUB AND SIT BACK AND TAKE IT .I WAS THERE PROTESTING ME AND ANOTHER BLOKE ,NO ONE ELSE SAYING NOTHING , THAT IS WHAT IS A DISGRACE .THEN WHAT DO YOU DO INSTEAD OF GETTING BEHIND THE TEAM YOU START CHANTING SACK THE BOARD MUPPETS YOU AND GARTSIDE DESERVE EACH OTHER.AS FOR GARTSIDE CLUELESS LOW LIFE SCUM .OH AND ALL THE DICKHEADS THAT SLAGGED BIG SAM WHAT DO YOU THINK NOW.
Couldn't agree more - chanting in the stadium gets us nowhere, proper protest might. Sadly the apathy and follow-the-herd mentality of many fans of our club means we get the club we deserve. BWFC RIP
lord kanagana / davel - what's the plan? What will the protests achieve at this stage? Eddie Davies must have been aware of the anti-Gartside/anti-M
egson sentiment on here and elsewhere. He must have approved the Megson signing and he isn't going sack his chairman and manager anytime in the next 5 games. It's time for us fans to take stock, and support the players. If things do go as badly as we all expect then there is NO WAY Gartside can possibly survive. For now he's been allowed to make his "decisive decision" in what HAS to be his last throw of the dice as Bolton chairman. If he's got this wrong and tries to ride it out again, I think we are all ready to riot, never mind protest!

birch, chorley says...
11:53am Fri 26 Oct 07

I cant believe people are actually saying, he is in now give him a chance! it is bemusing to me, the man is not competant enough for this position FACT! If we where getting some none league manager knowone had ever herd of in would you still be saying "he is in now give him a chance" no because they wouldnt be competant for this position.

In his whole career he has won 7 premiership games! he has never managed world class players and we are expecting him to be able to get the likes of Anelka, Campo and Dioufs respect, it will never happen!
he is believed to be a disaplinarian, no nonsence, not in to players with flash cars etc
if they dont tow his line they are out! that will leave us with all our decent players not playing because they dont respect some ginger plummer from the middlands.

I know a senior player who said lsl lost the players because he wouldnt listen to them so they all went to gary speed thats why speed had a fall out with lsl, that and him acusing him of leaking info to the press. he also said on the day lsl got sacked if archie knox is cartaker then we will get hammered at arsenal. well knox is the plummers number 2!

my honest prediction is the players will still not be happy and the plummer will start not playing your Campos and speeds and in january anelka will be sold due to dropping attendances and the plummer will be out by febuary.

For me Gartside is the real cancer, he was brought in when we where in diar financial straights. he was brought in because he is an accountant. he got lucky piggy backing big sams sucsess but he was the thorn in alladyce's side. he has no business sence no vision or understanding about increasing revenue he just looks to make the most of ehat we have. the real decider was against chelsea. 20k on, 8k empty seats, £36 a ticket! empty seats are lost opertunitys in my book, drop the prices get them full make the same money in recipts and get the rest on beer, its not rocket science.

Daxter, says...
11:53am Fri 26 Oct 07

TROTTER

We get your point. Stop being a broken record.

NO-ONE is happy with Megson's appointment or Gartsides decision, BUT give him a chance. Get behind the team and support them.

Two wins and we're mid table.

COME ON YOU WHITES.

Trotter, Bolton says...
11:53am Fri 26 Oct 07

Jon wrote:
Anyone chanting INSIDE the ground is NOT a fan of BWFC and as far as I'm concerned should be turned on by all the other decent fans WHO want our club to stay in the premiership. If you must protest, do it outside, although even that I find highly pathetic and quite frankly ridiculous.
I prefer to voice my opinions directly to the club via mail Jon , never have I jeered my team or protested outside the stadium, do not mind the fans chanting "Gartside out" though because when there is a weak link in the chain then it needs replacing, especially when we are cycling uphill and Gartside being a very big link in the chain, it is important our club replace that link with a chant of:

GARTSIDE OUT

King Cain, Bolton says...
11:53am Fri 26 Oct 07

Raoul Duke wrote:
Jon wrote: Anyone chanting INSIDE the ground is NOT a fan of BWFC and as far as I'm concerned should be turned on by all the other decent fans WHO want our club to stay in the premiership. If you must protest, do it outside, although even that I find highly pathetic and quite frankly ridiculous.
Well said that man.
Raoul Duke, serious question; Are you BWFC TIL I DIE with a new log in? Same views, same frequency of posts, same attacks on anti Gartslime comments, questioning loyalties, alot of similarities. Also BWFC TIL I DIE has not commented for a while which coincides with your introduction to this site.

There WAS a protest last night the evidence is in the attendance. Protests do work but it depends on how you protest, I protested by not attending last night and don’t anyone try and question as to whether i am a fan or not. I doubt many on this site have supported the club as much as me over the last 20+ years. I am genuinely gutted about our club’s plight and the people running or should I say ruining our club.

Raoul Duke, Priest Town says...
11:55am Fri 26 Oct 07

King Cain wrote:
Raoul Duke wrote:
Jon wrote: Anyone chanting INSIDE the ground is NOT a fan of BWFC and as far as I'm concerned should be turned on by all the other decent fans WHO want our club to stay in the premiership. If you must protest, do it outside, although even that I find highly pathetic and quite frankly ridiculous.
Well said that man.
Raoul Duke, serious question; Are you BWFC TIL I DIE with a new log in? Same views, same frequency of posts, same attacks on anti Gartslime comments, questioning loyalties, alot of similarities. Also BWFC TIL I DIE has not commented for a while which coincides with your introduction to this site. There WAS a protest last night the evidence is in the attendance. Protests do work but it depends on how you protest, I protested by not attending last night and don’t anyone try and question as to whether i am a fan or not. I doubt many on this site have supported the club as much as me over the last 20+ years. I am genuinely gutted about our club’s plight and the people running or should I say ruining our club.
No, I'd never posted on here before until yesterday.

trotter40, australia says...
11:55am Fri 26 Oct 07

Mixu u are not wrong but it will be to late if this one fails for gartside cause we will be relagated and iut might take forever to get back.He made one massive mistake in little sam,he could of and should of got someone a lot more qualified than megson.Martin Jol springs to mind .Oh but gartside didnt know he would be fired soon did he.I for one knew next loss he was a gonna.

Bolton Billy, Daubhill says...
11:56am Fri 26 Oct 07

Jon wrote:
Anyone chanting INSIDE the ground is NOT a fan of BWFC and as far as I'm concerned should be turned on by all the other decent fans WHO want our club to stay in the premiership. If you must protest, do it outside, although even that I find highly pathetic and quite frankly ridiculous.
I agree. I think the best solution is to avoid the Reebok altogether. The real problem is that Bolton do have `decent fans` but unfortunately we have an indecent chairman. Leave him and the benefactor to stew in their own mess. Incidentally, Jon I wondered when you would surface.

Trotter, Bolton says...
11:59am Fri 26 Oct 07

Daxter wrote:
TROTTER We get your point. Stop being a broken record. NO-ONE is happy with Megson's appointment or Gartsides decision, BUT give him a chance. Get behind the team and support them. Two wins and we're mid table. COME ON YOU WHITES.
No qualms with Megson whatsoever, it is with Gartside and if my record of being a "lifelong season tkt concerned bwfc supporter" does not sound good to you then you need to turn off the volume and start reading some facts regarding our chairman ............ maybe I should write a book for you saying that you do not like the music coming your way (must warn you that is not good either)

GARTSIDE OUT

Trotter, Bolton says...
12:03pm Fri 26 Oct 07

Anybody know if there is a press conference today regarding our new manager?

GARTSIDE OUT

Ju Ju Ju darby, Farnworth says...
12:06pm Fri 26 Oct 07

martin1980 wrote:
i wonder if there will be 10,000 against man utd at home ? i doubt it its about time the people who say they are bolton fans turn out to support the team , last night was £15 no excuses as one bloke put it to me in the pub after the game hed rather watch it on t.v as it was cheaper what a muppet as he spent £16 on beer and £20 in the bandit !!!! come on lets get behind megson we have no choice and lets keep this club where it belongs
Totally agree. No matter what is going on at our club, 10,000 for a UEFA cup match at £10/£15 a ticket is pathetic. There are far too many fans that have become complacement over the last 5 years & have forgot where we came from. Maybe a club with our current fanbase can only attract mangers of the calibre of megson. Its now time, more than ever before, to turn out at the Reebok & make some noise & get behind the manager of BWFC. Staying away will certainly not help the new manager or the players get out of the current mess we are in.
BWFC FOREVER !!

lord kangana, Bolton says...
12:07pm Fri 26 Oct 07

Mixu Pantiliners wrote:
lord kangana wrote:
davel wrote: GUTLESS THATS WHAT BOLTON FANS ARE YOU LET GARTSIDE TAKE THE **** OUT OF THE CLUB AND SIT BACK AND TAKE IT .I WAS THERE PROTESTING ME AND ANOTHER BLOKE ,NO ONE ELSE SAYING NOTHING , THAT IS WHAT IS A DISGRACE .THEN WHAT DO YOU DO INSTEAD OF GETTING BEHIND THE TEAM YOU START CHANTING SACK THE BOARD MUPPETS YOU AND GARTSIDE DESERVE EACH OTHER.AS FOR GARTSIDE CLUELESS LOW LIFE SCUM .OH AND ALL THE DICKHEADS THAT SLAGGED BIG SAM WHAT DO YOU THINK NOW.
Couldn't agree more - chanting in the stadium gets us nowhere, proper protest might. Sadly the apathy and follow-the-herd mentality of many fans of our club means we get the club we deserve. BWFC RIP
lord kanagana / davel - what's the plan? What will the protests achieve at this stage? Eddie Davies must have been aware of the anti-Gartside/anti-M egson sentiment on here and elsewhere. He must have approved the Megson signing and he isn't going sack his chairman and manager anytime in the next 5 games. It's time for us fans to take stock, and support the players. If things do go as badly as we all expect then there is NO WAY Gartside can possibly survive. For now he's been allowed to make his "decisive decision" in what HAS to be his last throw of the dice as Bolton chairman. If he's got this wrong and tries to ride it out again, I think we are all ready to riot, never mind protest!
What will the protest achieve???

1)To show the world (who now think we are a laughing stock) that we care.

2)Megson is a championship manager, and he will find his level very quickly, taking us with him.

3)Gartside WAS AWARE that we fans wholeheartedly did not want Megson - yet he continued anyway. That shows some balls, and the courage of his convictions. Well I'm doing the same, because I %100 disagree with this decision.

3)Even IF we manage to somehow survive this god-awful, Gartside-made mess, and by some miracle stay in the premier league, look forward to years of relegation battles and 'dogs-of-war' tactics, because that is all Megson is capable of AT HIS VERY BEST.


If now is not the time to protest, then there NEVER will be a time at BWFC, and I refuse to be an apathetic sheep who will stand idly by and see one of the best periods in our history consigned to the dustbin for lack of a bit of backbone by the fans.

Jon, Bolton says...
12:10pm Fri 26 Oct 07

The only person who can change the way the club is financed is Eddie Davies.

In fact thats not quite true, its Eddie Davies persuading someone to buy the club from him and to pour money in.

So instead of getting at Gartside who is simply a glorified Chief Exec, perhaps you could all write sensible letters to people who are interested in buying a football club and have sufficient funds to invest.

Until that happens we are what we are. A small club with big debts competing against the Readings of the world, NOT the Newcastles, Spurs, Arsenals and because of the wealth of their owners, Wigans, Portsmouths and West Hams.

Find someone prepared to buy us before you antagonise Davies who has lets face it, funded the club to allow us to buy Anelka.


J4, Bolton says...
12:13pm Fri 26 Oct 07

The top and tail of it is now we are stuck with smegson, and you never know if we all get behind him he might turn out to be a loyal and passionate battler who will do wonders for the club. As far as i can see now, GARTSLIME and and the HAMBURGLAR DAVIES are the problem. £2million on thirteen players?!??!?? They are preparing for a season in the champonship, they have to be. If we are going to do this protest thing, we have to do it properly, because the only way i see BWFC going forward now is without gartslime and davies. And to end on a positive note, well done Mr Megson on coming out to see the fans jeering you last night, lets hope you have the balls to drop nolan and start playing some of these young quick wingers that are gathering dust in the closet!

Angus, Bury St Edmunds says...
12:16pm Fri 26 Oct 07

Raoul Duke wrote:
Did you blame Gartside when your dog died? There's absolutely NOTHING the Chairman can do if the players aren't willing to perform on the pitch.
You couldn't be more wrong. A chairman's job is to provide a manager that can motivate the players to put good performances in week in, week out. That's the chairman's job.
Gartside has not done his job. If I don't do my job I have to leave, so should Gartside.

Martin Duggan, says...
12:16pm Fri 26 Oct 07

Have you ever noticed how eric gets very quiet when someone puts a constructive responce on that makes him look a bit stupid!

Jon, Bolton says...
12:19pm Fri 26 Oct 07

Angus wrote:
Raoul Duke wrote: Did you blame Gartside when your dog died? There's absolutely NOTHING the Chairman can do if the players aren't willing to perform on the pitch.
You couldn't be more wrong. A chairman's job is to provide a manager that can motivate the players to put good performances in week in, week out. That's the chairman's job. Gartside has not done his job. If I don't do my job I have to leave, so should Gartside.
If Megson keeps us up will you then praise Gartside for making a superb decision?


nd, reebok says...
12:19pm Fri 26 Oct 07

WHITE ARMY: we're doomed, doomed i tell ya.

James, Westhoughton says...
12:24pm Fri 26 Oct 07

Jon wrote:
The only person who can change the way the club is financed is Eddie Davies. In fact thats not quite true, its Eddie Davies persuading someone to buy the club from him and to pour money in. So instead of getting at Gartside who is simply a glorified Chief Exec, perhaps you could all write sensible letters to people who are interested in buying a football club and have sufficient funds to invest. Until that happens we are what we are. A small club with big debts competing against the Readings of the world, NOT the Newcastles, Spurs, Arsenals and because of the wealth of their owners, Wigans, Portsmouths and West Hams. Find someone prepared to buy us before you antagonise Davies who has lets face it, funded the club to allow us to buy Anelka.
Ahh...the old "we're in debt"

That is one of the questions on my list.

Where has all the money gone? Year of being in the Premier and yet we are still brassic.

Someone is making money - it sure as hell not being invested in the club.

newshound, bolton says...
12:26pm Fri 26 Oct 07

nd wrote:
WHITE ARMY: we're doomed, doomed i tell ya.
"Don`t panic Mr Mainwaring Sir.....Don`t panic"

lol......forget that....lets ALL bloody panic!!!

newshound, bolton says...
12:27pm Fri 26 Oct 07

nd wrote:
WHITE ARMY: we're doomed, doomed i tell ya.
"Don`t panic Mr Mainwaring Sir, Don`t panic"

lol.....forget that....LETS PANIC!!!!!!!!

Mixu Pantiliners, Dublin says...
12:28pm Fri 26 Oct 07

lord kangana wrote:
Mixu Pantiliners wrote:
lord kangana wrote:
davel wrote: GUTLESS THATS WHAT BOLTON FANS ARE YOU LET GARTSIDE TAKE THE **** OUT OF THE CLUB AND SIT BACK AND TAKE IT .I WAS THERE PROTESTING ME AND ANOTHER BLOKE ,NO ONE ELSE SAYING NOTHING , THAT IS WHAT IS A DISGRACE .THEN WHAT DO YOU DO INSTEAD OF GETTING BEHIND THE TEAM YOU START CHANTING SACK THE BOARD MUPPETS YOU AND GARTSIDE DESERVE EACH OTHER.AS FOR GARTSIDE CLUELESS LOW LIFE SCUM .OH AND ALL THE DICKHEADS THAT SLAGGED BIG SAM WHAT DO YOU THINK NOW.
Couldn't agree more - chanting in the stadium gets us nowhere, proper protest might. Sadly the apathy and follow-the-herd mentality of many fans of our club means we get the club we deserve. BWFC RIP
lord kanagana / davel - what's the plan? What will the protests achieve at this stage? Eddie Davies must have been aware of the anti-Gartside/anti-M egson sentiment on here and elsewhere. He must have approved the Megson signing and he isn't going sack his chairman and manager anytime in the next 5 games. It's time for us fans to take stock, and support the players. If things do go as badly as we all expect then there is NO WAY Gartside can possibly survive. For now he's been allowed to make his "decisive decision" in what HAS to be his last throw of the dice as Bolton chairman. If he's got this wrong and tries to ride it out again, I think we are all ready to riot, never mind protest!
What will the protest achieve??? 1)To show the world (who now think we are a laughing stock) that we care. 2)Megson is a championship manager, and he will find his level very quickly, taking us with him. 3)Gartside WAS AWARE that we fans wholeheartedly did not want Megson - yet he continued anyway. That shows some balls, and the courage of his convictions. Well I'm doing the same, because I %100 disagree with this decision. 3)Even IF we manage to somehow survive this god-awful, Gartside-made mess, and by some miracle stay in the premier league, look forward to years of relegation battles and 'dogs-of-war' tactics, because that is all Megson is capable of AT HIS VERY BEST. If now is not the time to protest, then there NEVER will be a time at BWFC, and I refuse to be an apathetic sheep who will stand idly by and see one of the best periods in our history consigned to the dustbin for lack of a bit of backbone by the fans.
lord kangana - few would argue with you summary of Megson and the likelihood of a grim future ahead. My point is that Gartside has his way, and he has the full backing of the owner. This is a fresh start, it's not the one we wanted but protests are better timed and more effective when we've seen what Megson can (or more likely can't) do.

If we avoid relegation but get stuck next season playing bad football in 15th spot then we take it up this debate again, but at the moment that would be a step forward. Lets face it, the BSA glory days are becoming a distant memory. It's going to be a long while till we're pushing for European places again. If Megson does add stability and saves the drop, but nothing more, we can always replace him anyway with someone who will take the club forward.

barbarossa, poulton le fylde says...
12:28pm Fri 26 Oct 07

I understand the press conference is at 2pm. but will need to confirm.

King Cain, Bolton says...
12:28pm Fri 26 Oct 07

Martin Duggan wrote:
Have you ever noticed how eric gets very quiet when someone puts a constructive responce on that makes him look a bit stupid!
Yes i have in fact i've sussed out from some of his past postings that he is a fraudster anyway, don't give him the time of day.

Mike, Wonderland says...
12:30pm Fri 26 Oct 07

It's unfair to comapre Megson's arrival with Big Sam's arrival - the latter of course arriving when we were langering at the foot of the Championship (or whatever it was called then).

Megson has inherited a squad of talented footballers, with big ego's and if he adopts too harsh an approach it will take us even further back then LSL.

Megson is here now, let's give him our support and get ourselves out of this mess.


Pedro, Bolton says...
12:30pm Fri 26 Oct 07

Very Interesting that the Bookies are of a completely different view to all you doom mongers!

Coral have launched a 'Gary Megson Specials' market and clearly have confidence in Megson's abilities as the Trotters are priced at odds-on to stay up this season, despite their disastrous start.

Here's all the prices for the 'Gary Megson Specials' market. Have a flutter with Coral and they will add a £10 bonus to your account. Maybe you can invest that on the 'Next Tottenham Manager' market...

Bolton To Be Relegated 7/4 - BET HERE
Bolton To Stay Up 2/5 - BET HERE
Total Bolton League Points to be 35 or less this season 10/11 - BET HERE
Total Bolton League Points to be 36 or more this season 10/11 - BET HERE
Megson still to be in charge of Bolton for first game of next season 4/7 - BET HERE
Megson NOT TO BE in charge of Bolton for first game of next season 5/4 - BET HERE
Megson to be named Manager of the Month for Bolton this season 20/1 - BET HERE
Anelka to leave Bolton in the 2008 January transfer window 5/6 - BET HERE
Anelka NOT to leave Bolton in the 2008 January transfer window 5/6 - BET HERE

Trotter, Bolton says...
12:31pm Fri 26 Oct 07

Jon wrote:
The only person who can change the way the club is financed is Eddie Davies. In fact thats not quite true, its Eddie Davies persuading someone to buy the club from him and to pour money in. So instead of getting at Gartside who is simply a glorified Chief Exec, perhaps you could all write sensible letters to people who are interested in buying a football club and have sufficient funds to invest. Until that happens we are what we are. A small club with big debts competing against the Readings of the world, NOT the Newcastles, Spurs, Arsenals and because of the wealth of their owners, Wigans, Portsmouths and West Hams. Find someone prepared to buy us before you antagonise Davies who has lets face it, funded the club to allow us to buy Anelka.
Jon I think you are missing the point of Gartside telling lies and giving false hope to those who support the club, someone made the point of having no fans and the club could still get by financially which I understand, the fact that the fans are getting at someone is a comfort in a way for them, instead of doing nothing, you pose a good point mentioning Eddie Davies but after all he has employed Gartside as his mouthpiece and at the moment the likes of Allardyce, P.F.M.A, Panorama and the majority of bwfc fans are voicing thier opinions at Gartside.

You are one of the best posters on here and I do listen to the good ones, time will tell Jon
GARTSIDE OUT

Angus, Bury St Edmunds says...
12:31pm Fri 26 Oct 07

Jon wrote:
Angus wrote:
Raoul Duke wrote: Did you blame Gartside when your dog died? There's absolutely NOTHING the Chairman can do if the players aren't willing to perform on the pitch.
You couldn't be more wrong. A chairman's job is to provide a manager that can motivate the players to put good performances in week in, week out. That's the chairman's job. Gartside has not done his job. If I don't do my job I have to leave, so should Gartside.
If Megson keeps us up will you then praise Gartside for making a superb decision?
No because I still feel that the way he has gone behind the club's fans and not taken into account any of the views is disgraceful. Football clubs should be based on the supporters and for Gartside to be completely ignorant of them is unnacceptable.
If I was the chairman of a different business, it would be unthinkable to employ a manager that the large majority of customers hated.
He has to go..he's shown he doesn't listen, and thats what chairmen should do...listen.
Besides, are you really considering that Megson could keep us up? Look as his track record.

phil, BOLTON,LANCS says...
12:32pm Fri 26 Oct 07

As bemused as i am with the appointment of Megson, i now feel the only way to make light of a bad situation is to get behind the new manager and the players. Protests may seem like a logical solution but what will it achieve - NOTHING !!!!
Lets get bums on seats for the Villa game and lift the roof off the reebok, get behind the players cause im sure they don't like being bottom of the league just as much as the fans don't. As for comments posted on Speeds performance last night, so what if he was cr*p, he's not had many like that in his time at the reebok and he wasn't on his own. Slating and booing the lads won't make them any better - lets get behind them and help them turn it around which i fully believe they can.

Trotter, Bolton says...
12:32pm Fri 26 Oct 07

barbarossa wrote:
I understand the press conference is at 2pm. but will need to confirm.
Cheers matey,

kigbillspacked, bolton says...
12:32pm Fri 26 Oct 07

attendence last night was pathetic.megson is a useless tosser but do we deserve any better?
the depressing thing is it's not a surprise. bolton fans over the years have been some of the most apathetic in the country.oh they will turn out for the jollys abroad, but when we need them the most? the response is "cant be arsed." 15 quid..10000. embarassing.

Mike, Wonderland says...
12:34pm Fri 26 Oct 07

can't help thinking we should have been speaking to martin jol this morning - it was inevitable he would be available in the next few days

Pedro, Bolton says...
12:34pm Fri 26 Oct 07

KEEP ON KEEPING THE FAITH TROTTER!

phil, BOLTON,LANCS says...
12:36pm Fri 26 Oct 07

Attendance was poor last night, can't believe they didn't offer the same prices as the 1st game in Europe this season - Would have been a lot more there due to it being 1/2 term for the kids

Trotter, Bolton says...
12:43pm Fri 26 Oct 07

The subsidence of all the posts today are a true reflection of what our feelings really are and I take assurance from that, the fact that the likes of Jon pose good points make for a good debate but I am now of a feeling that even if we stay up, which will be difficult and even win the F.A cup, then Gartside does need to go because of his lies and very poor P.R with the fans.

GARTSIDE OUT

Jon, Bolton says...
12:43pm Fri 26 Oct 07

Angus wrote:
Jon wrote:
Angus wrote:
Raoul Duke wrote: Did you blame Gartside when your dog died? There's absolutely NOTHING the Chairman can do if the players aren't willing to perform on the pitch.
You couldn't be more wrong. A chairman's job is to provide a manager that can motivate the players to put good performances in week in, week out. That's the chairman's job. Gartside has not done his job. If I don't do my job I have to leave, so should Gartside.
If Megson keeps us up will you then praise Gartside for making a superb decision?
No because I still feel that the way he has gone behind the club's fans and not taken into account any of the views is disgraceful. Football clubs should be based on the supporters and for Gartside to be completely ignorant of them is unnacceptable. If I was the chairman of a different business, it would be unthinkable to employ a manager that the large majority of customers hated. He has to go..he's shown he doesn't listen, and thats what chairmen should do...listen. Besides, are you really considering that Megson could keep us up? Look as his track record.
Eh? Eddie Davies owns the club. The ONLY person Gartside has to take orders from is him.

If the chairman listened to the supporters all the time, we'd be in a right mess. For a start we'd be sacking a manager every time we lost.

Gartside along with Davies have made a choice of manager they believe to be correct.

The fans may disagree, but we aren't in the same position. Gartside felt we needed a strong personality to sort the dressing room out. It was between Souness and Megson and lets face it there were a lot of people complaining about Souness.

Gartside makes these decisions in the best interest of the club. Whatever people say he does. Whether it was the right decision or not, only time will tell.

But lets wait and see eh?

jay, bolton says...
12:47pm Fri 26 Oct 07

King Cain wrote:
Raoul Duke wrote:
Jon wrote: Anyone chanting INSIDE the ground is NOT a fan of BWFC and as far as I'm concerned should be turned on by all the other decent fans WHO want our club to stay in the premiership. If you must protest, do it outside, although even that I find highly pathetic and quite frankly ridiculous.
Well said that man.
Raoul Duke, serious question; Are you BWFC TIL I DIE with a new log in? Same views, same frequency of posts, same attacks on anti Gartslime comments, questioning loyalties, alot of similarities. Also BWFC TIL I DIE has not commented for a while which coincides with your introduction to this site. There WAS a protest last night the evidence is in the attendance. Protests do work but it depends on how you protest, I protested by not attending last night and don’t anyone try and question as to whether i am a fan or not. I doubt many on this site have supported the club as much as me over the last 20+ years. I am genuinely gutted about our club’s plight and the people running or should I say ruining our club.
i think your right mate, raoul duke and boring jon are both full of sh1t. they would stick up for gartside if he appointed a woman as manager i think and jon would come up with someway of saying it shows gartsides vision lol! I too have been BWFC since was 8, 22years now and been to the leyton orients, southends and northamptons. At the time they where good days and still enjoyed the matches, but as most of us on here we dont want to see them days ever again!

Trotter, Bolton says...
12:47pm Fri 26 Oct 07

Pedro wrote:
KEEP ON KEEPING THE FAITH TROTTER!
Cheers matey, KEEP THE FAITH will be back soon, just need to get some Gartside stuff off my chest, if you know what I mean, I care very much about our team and Gartside is not helping me with the: KEEP THE FAITH.

King Eric, . says...
12:50pm Fri 26 Oct 07

King Eric was busy..discussing the match with a BWFC fan
If you are a football fan Eric then you would have sympathy for any fan who cares about his/her club, the fact that you mock these fans then tells me that you are not a fan.


I honestly do care about the way you genuine fans are being treated but...you have to organise your protest properly in order to have an impact. I gave you some suggestions yesterday..10000 A4 leaflets with a 'red card' on them.
You can still back the team and show the board, Gartside & Davies what you think.
And to borrow our campaign slogan
How about:
LBHG

Love Bolton Hate Gartside

Says it all.
I won't charge you for this info BTW ;-))

Only one Andy Walker, London says...
12:50pm Fri 26 Oct 07

Raoul Duke wrote:
Did you blame Gartside when your dog died? There's absolutely NOTHING the Chairman can do if the players aren't willing to perform on the pitch.
YEAH but not giving the cash to the replace the players that we lost (faye, haim) is his job and he has failed.

so get Gartside out!!!!

if we had spent money on a quality centre half and defensive midfielder we would not be bottom of the league simple as that.


Angus, Bury St Edmunds says...
12:55pm Fri 26 Oct 07

Yes Jon, but why was it between Souness and Megson in the first place?
I agree that Gartside has the club's best interests at heart, but the man is clueless.
I don't agree that the club's fans are so fickle to call for the manager's head every time we lose - how many times did we lose under Allardyce?
A footbal club must listen to its fans, and Gartside does not do this.
I can see where you're coming from with Davies, but he deals less with the footballing side and more with the financial side. Gartside is accountable.

King Eric, . says...
12:55pm Fri 26 Oct 07

King Eric was busy..discussing the match with a BWFC fan
If you are a football fan Eric then you would have sympathy for any fan who cares about his/her club, the fact that you mock these fans then tells me that you are not a fan.


I honestly do care about the way you genuine fans are being treated but...you have to organise your protest properly in order to have an impact. I gave you some suggestions yesterday..10000 A4 leaflets with a 'red card' on them.
You can still back the team and show the board, Gartside & Davies what you think.
And to borrow our campaign slogan
How about:
LBHG

Love Bolton Hate Gartside

Says it all.
I won't charge you for this info BTW ;-))

Trotter, Bolton says...
12:56pm Fri 26 Oct 07

Did Eddie know that Megson's agent sat in on the Souness interview?

What goes round comes round and Gartside's turn will come, Davies does not need hassle at his stage of life and I for one hope that he see's the light soon.
He will soon get sick of the hassle the fans are causing him or will cause for him.

GARTSIDE OUT

Northwich White, Northwich says...
12:57pm Fri 26 Oct 07

I had an awful dream last night, well nightmare really.I dreamt that we had another ginger useless manager......OH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
OOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!
!!!!!

MrWesrtToYou, Bolton says...
12:57pm Fri 26 Oct 07

Is the press conference on at the Reebok ? Can anyone make it down there for a small protest please quote

jay, bolton says...
12:57pm Fri 26 Oct 07

cadders1 wrote:
Like it or not Megson is our manager (he wouldn't be my tenth choice let alone first!)but he is here so we all need to get behind the team for sunday and get three points. Lets not forget this is about Bolton Wanderers not one individual. I firmly believe we would have been in the crap this year even under FSA, maybe not bottom but darn close. He knew that, thats one of the reasons (PG was the other)why he left. As mentioned above FSA had no history when he took over but the difference is we were a struggling championship side then not a prem side still in europe as now. If speed is the reason for the unrest then maybe its time to say goodbye and blood the new players, he can't have many miles left in his legs anyway, and he was awful last night. When we played the in ya face, long ball football and won then it was a means to an end, when we lost it just looked ugly. That said I would settle for that on Sunday. We need to be realistic that for the last few years we have punched above our weight as FSA played a style that suited the players he could afford (Anelka apart). We need to get back to that kind of mentality and maybe (just maybe, fingers well crossed) Megson might do it!!
Megson wont do anything, we should stay up but that will be down to our quality players not Megsons tactics, team talks or training techniques. Hes a proven nobody who spent quite a few quid at brom and didnt nothing. Gartside out! As for ppl keep saying we have punched above our weight for years shows that those fans where just waiting for the bubble to burst, maybe we aint an out and out top 6 quality team but we should be top 10 or 12 with the players we have at the moment but will not have by the end of the season.

lord kangana, Bolton says...
12:58pm Fri 26 Oct 07

MIXU:-

I do truly understand why people are saying get behind the team/club/manager etc, because that has been my mantra as a Wanderers fan for years - fer chrisakes, I even defended Roy Macfarland, despite having spoken to Chris Coleman(remeber how good he was?) who told me "I'm not playing because the gaffer just doesn't fancy me"(no innuendo implied).

I also defended Colin Todd, because of the money situation (not a great track-record so far eh?), but each time we got ourselves in trouble, and I see the Megson situation as EVEN WORSE than either of those two.

In essence, if we 'wait and see' my own belief is it will be far too late to do anything at all. And as a premier-league club, the media spotlight can help us in our fight to turn the club around. Once we are out of the premier league no-one will care about us, and the fans who could've done something will dissapear

And under the circumstances, doing something now can't harm our chances any further- we are bottom and look rudderless.

King Eric, . says...
12:58pm Fri 26 Oct 07

Posted by: King Cain, Bolton on 12:28pm today
Martin Duggan wrote: Have you ever noticed how eric gets very quiet when someone puts a constructive responce on that makes him look a bit stupid!
Yes i have in fact i've sussed out from some of his past postings that he is a fraudster anyway, don't give him the time of day.
Martin Duggan wrote:
Have you ever noticed how eric gets very quiet when someone puts a constructive responce on that makes him look a bit stupid!
Yes i have in fact i've sussed out from some of his past postings that he is a fraudster anyway, don't give him the time of day.



So ignore my constructive ways to protest, sit on your hands and do nothing.
Just don't come back on here whinging.
Gartside & Davies are not Bolton Wanderes. You are. Realise that and do something about it.

MrWesrtToYou, Bolton says...
12:58pm Fri 26 Oct 07

Is the press conference on at the Reebok? Can anyone make it down there for a small protest please quote

jay, bolton says...
1:00pm Fri 26 Oct 07

James wrote:
Jon wrote: The only person who can change the way the club is financed is Eddie Davies. In fact thats not quite true, its Eddie Davies persuading someone to buy the club from him and to pour money in. So instead of getting at Gartside who is simply a glorified Chief Exec, perhaps you could all write sensible letters to people who are interested in buying a football club and have sufficient funds to invest. Until that happens we are what we are. A small club with big debts competing against the Readings of the world, NOT the Newcastles, Spurs, Arsenals and because of the wealth of their owners, Wigans, Portsmouths and West Hams. Find someone prepared to buy us before you antagonise Davies who has lets face it, funded the club to allow us to buy Anelka.
Ahh...the old "we're in debt" That is one of the questions on my list. Where has all the money gone? Year of being in the Premier and yet we are still brassic. Someone is making money - it sure as hell not being invested in the club.
dont worry its jon hes always on about financial waffle, you,d think he was our accountant by the way he talks oh and believe me this bloke will stick up for gartside even if he appointed a woman manager, he,d tell us it show gartsides vision or some other crap!

Trotter, Bolton says...
1:01pm Fri 26 Oct 07

King Eric wrote:
King Eric was busy..discussing the match with a BWFC fan
If you are a football fan Eric then you would have sympathy for any fan who cares about his/her club, the fact that you mock these fans then tells me that you are not a fan.
I honestly do care about the way you genuine fans are being treated but...you have to organise your protest properly in order to have an impact. I gave you some suggestions yesterday..10000 A4 leaflets with a 'red card' on them. You can still back the team and show the board, Gartside & Davies what you think. And to borrow our campaign slogan How about: LBHG Love Bolton Hate Gartside Says it all. I won't charge you for this info BTW ;-))
I have another idea, for those who dare, in that when Eddie Davies arrives on Sunday or any home game then bombard him with leaflets, suggestions and banners regarding Gartside out, not to mention the letters sent to him through the Reebok address, if he does not get sick of it then his blonde on his arm will.

GARTSIDE OUT

Normid Nomad, Howfen says...
1:02pm Fri 26 Oct 07

Jon wrote:
Anyone chanting INSIDE the ground is NOT a fan of BWFC and as far as I'm concerned should be turned on by all the other decent fans WHO want our club to stay in the premiership. If you must protest, do it outside, although even that I find highly pathetic and quite frankly ridiculous.
See that Eddie and Phils best mate is back - Jon YOU are a KN08HEAD !! 1st CLASS
ps Hows the strike going at Warbies - Because cmon that is you Jonathon isnt it because only a warby could stick up up for Garshite (Ex employee / mate and all that !

kigbillspacked, bolton says...
1:02pm Fri 26 Oct 07

phil wrote:
Attendance was poor last night, can't believe they didn't offer the same prices as the 1st game in Europe this season - Would have been a lot more there due to it being 1/2 term for the kids
for **** sake!!it was 15 quid!!excuses all the time.

Jon, Bolton says...
1:06pm Fri 26 Oct 07

jay wrote:
King Cain wrote:
Raoul Duke wrote:
Jon wrote: Anyone chanting INSIDE the ground is NOT a fan of BWFC and as far as I'm concerned should be turned on by all the other decent fans WHO want our club to stay in the premiership. If you must protest, do it outside, although even that I find highly pathetic and quite frankly ridiculous.
Well said that man.
Raoul Duke, serious question; Are you BWFC TIL I DIE with a new log in? Same views, same frequency of posts, same attacks on anti Gartslime comments, questioning loyalties, alot of similarities. Also BWFC TIL I DIE has not commented for a while which coincides with your introduction to this site. There WAS a protest last night the evidence is in the attendance. Protests do work but it depends on how you protest, I protested by not attending last night and don’t anyone try and question as to whether i am a fan or not. I doubt many on this site have supported the club as much as me over the last 20+ years. I am genuinely gutted about our club’s plight and the people running or should I say ruining our club.
i think your right mate, raoul duke and boring jon are both full of sh1t. they would stick up for gartside if he appointed a woman as manager i think and jon would come up with someway of saying it shows gartsides vision lol! I too have been BWFC since was 8, 22years now and been to the leyton orients, southends and northamptons. At the time they where good days and still enjoyed the matches, but as most of us on here we dont want to see them days ever again!
Jay, OK Gartside and Eddie Davies out.

Who do you want in to run and finance the club?

Come on names and numbers.

Who is going to invest the 15M that Davies has so far just to keep the club running?

Who is going to want to invest 10% of their own wealth just to pay off interest charges only to take abuse from fans who haven't bothered doing any research?

Who is going to invest in a club with dwindling crowds, that is losing money?

You tell me, if Davies and Gartside go, who is coming in?

I want names and figures. If you can't produce that then what are you asking for?

Trotter, Bolton says...
1:08pm Fri 26 Oct 07

Normid Nomad wrote:
Jon wrote: Anyone chanting INSIDE the ground is NOT a fan of BWFC and as far as I'm concerned should be turned on by all the other decent fans WHO want our club to stay in the premiership. If you must protest, do it outside, although even that I find highly pathetic and quite frankly ridiculous.
See that Eddie and Phils best mate is back - Jon YOU are a KN08HEAD !! 1st CLASS ps Hows the strike going at Warbies - Because cmon that is you Jonathon isnt it because only a warby could stick up up for Garshite (Ex employee / mate and all that !
Bit unfair to have a go at Jon matey, Jon gives a good debate and an alternative to our questions and concerns, one of the good posters on this forum and a fan, no need to have a go at our own fans when we should all stick together.

KEEP THE FAITH

J4, Bolton says...
1:08pm Fri 26 Oct 07

i wish people on here would listen to king eric. (can't beleive i am saying that!) Something more needs to be done on Sunday, but we need to do something proper. Kick off is at half one, i will get to the main reception about 1/2 12 probably, anyone else who fancies coming along and seeing what we can do or even if someone else has some suggestions then in the great words of that fantastic philosopher DELIA SMITH, "lets be having yer!"

Only one Andy Walker, London says...
1:12pm Fri 26 Oct 07

Jon wrote:
Angus wrote:
Jon wrote:
Angus wrote:
Raoul Duke wrote: Did you blame Gartside when your dog died? There's absolutely NOTHING the Chairman can do if the players aren't willing to perform on the pitch.
You couldn't be more wrong. A chairman's job is to provide a manager that can motivate the players to put good performances in week in, week out. That's the chairman's job. Gartside has not done his job. If I don't do my job I have to leave, so should Gartside.
If Megson keeps us up will you then praise Gartside for making a superb decision?
No because I still feel that the way he has gone behind the club's fans and not taken into account any of the views is disgraceful. Football clubs should be based on the supporters and for Gartside to be completely ignorant of them is unnacceptable. If I was the chairman of a different business, it would be unthinkable to employ a manager that the large majority of customers hated. He has to go..he's shown he doesn't listen, and thats what chairmen should do...listen. Besides, are you really considering that Megson could keep us up? Look as his track record.
Eh? Eddie Davies owns the club. The ONLY person Gartside has to take orders from is him.

If the chairman listened to the supporters all the time, we'd be in a right mess. For a start we'd be sacking a manager every time we lost.

Gartside along with Davies have made a choice of manager they believe to be correct.

The fans may disagree, but we aren't in the same position. Gartside felt we needed a strong personality to sort the dressing room out. It was between Souness and Megson and lets face it there were a lot of people complaining about Souness.

Gartside makes these decisions in the best interest of the club. Whatever people say he does. Whether it was the right decision or not, only time will tell.

But lets wait and see eh?
Yeah but gartside has got it wrong.

megson has a terrible record. you couldn't find worse.

48 games 7 wins 28 losses. crap!!!!

if he really had the best interests of the club at heart he would have appointed somebody with a better pedigree.

Why choose somebody who's as bad as MEGSON.

the spanish guy who won la liga in 2000 with deportivo la coruna would have been a better choice.

most of our team are foreign so why go for a british manager.

it's called ambition. something Bolton haven't got at the moment under gartside.

if we had signed a quality centre half and midfielder we would not be in this position. top ten i'd say.

we could still of got in the top ten if we had gone for a manager with more ambition.

who will come to megsons bolton now.

i'll tell you, nobody apart from championship players and they are not what we need in the january window.

action plan

buy a quality centre half, midfielder and another striker and drop speed and nolan, then we will be in the top 10.

alot of rubbish teams in the prem

we can still do it!!!!!!!

Jon, Bolton says...
1:13pm Fri 26 Oct 07

jay wrote:
James wrote:
Jon wrote: The only person who can change the way the club is financed is Eddie Davies. In fact thats not quite true, its Eddie Davies persuading someone to buy the club from him and to pour money in. So instead of getting at Gartside who is simply a glorified Chief Exec, perhaps you could all write sensible letters to people who are interested in buying a football club and have sufficient funds to invest. Until that happens we are what we are. A small club with big debts competing against the Readings of the world, NOT the Newcastles, Spurs, Arsenals and because of the wealth of their owners, Wigans, Portsmouths and West Hams. Find someone prepared to buy us before you antagonise Davies who has lets face it, funded the club to allow us to buy Anelka.
Ahh...the old "we're in debt" That is one of the questions on my list. Where has all the money gone? Year of being in the Premier and yet we are still brassic. Someone is making money - it sure as hell not being invested in the club.
dont worry its jon hes always on about financial waffle, you,d think he was our accountant by the way he talks oh and believe me this bloke will stick up for gartside even if he appointed a woman manager, he,d tell us it show gartsides vision or some other crap!
Its so funny Jay that you are so abundantly thick.

Come on who do you want to run the club?

Names please!

lord kangana, Bolton says...
1:23pm Fri 26 Oct 07

Jon wrote:
jay wrote:
James wrote:
Jon wrote: The only person who can change the way the club is financed is Eddie Davies. In fact thats not quite true, its Eddie Davies persuading someone to buy the club from him and to pour money in. So instead of getting at Gartside who is simply a glorified Chief Exec, perhaps you could all write sensible letters to people who are interested in buying a football club and have sufficient funds to invest. Until that happens we are what we are. A small club with big debts competing against the Readings of the world, NOT the Newcastles, Spurs, Arsenals and because of the wealth of their owners, Wigans, Portsmouths and West Hams. Find someone prepared to buy us before you antagonise Davies who has lets face it, funded the club to allow us to buy Anelka.
Ahh...the old "we're in debt" That is one of the questions on my list. Where has all the money gone? Year of being in the Premier and yet we are still brassic. Someone is making money - it sure as hell not being invested in the club.
dont worry its jon hes always on about financial waffle, you,d think he was our accountant by the way he talks oh and believe me this bloke will stick up for gartside even if he appointed a woman manager, he,d tell us it show gartsides vision or some other crap!
Its so funny Jay that you are so abundantly thick. Come on who do you want to run the club? Names please!
THE FANS?

Its hilarious how you are trying to railroad the argument, but just because an answer isn't readily available, doesn't mean you shut up shop and give in, it means you try harder and look further.

I wonder if you are by any chance related to Neville Chamberlain?

Just because we have no immediate candidate to replace the half-wit in charge, doesn't change the fact that WE STILL HAVE A HALF-WIT IN CHARGE.

listen 2 me, lancashire says...
1:24pm Fri 26 Oct 07

f.u.c.k. off gartside and take ur new bum chum with u come back sammy lee all is forgiven

listen 2 me, lancashire says...
1:24pm Fri 26 Oct 07

f.u.c.k. off gartside and take ur new bum chum with u come back sammy lee all is forgiven

Jon, Bolton says...
1:28pm Fri 26 Oct 07

lord kangana wrote:
Jon wrote:
jay wrote:
James wrote:
Jon wrote: The only person who can change the way the club is financed is Eddie Davies. In fact thats not quite true, its Eddie Davies persuading someone to buy the club from him and to pour money in. So instead of getting at Gartside who is simply a glorified Chief Exec, perhaps you could all write sensible letters to people who are interested in buying a football club and have sufficient funds to invest. Until that happens we are what we are. A small club with big debts competing against the Readings of the world, NOT the Newcastles, Spurs, Arsenals and because of the wealth of their owners, Wigans, Portsmouths and West Hams. Find someone prepared to buy us before you antagonise Davies who has lets face it, funded the club to allow us to buy Anelka.
Ahh...the old "we're in debt" That is one of the questions on my list. Where has all the money gone? Year of being in the Premier and yet we are still brassic. Someone is making money - it sure as hell not being invested in the club.
dont worry its jon hes always on about financial waffle, you,d think he was our accountant by the way he talks oh and believe me this bloke will stick up for gartside even if he appointed a woman manager, he,d tell us it show gartsides vision or some other crap!
Its so funny Jay that you are so abundantly thick. Come on who do you want to run the club? Names please!
THE FANS? Its hilarious how you are trying to railroad the argument, but just because an answer isn't readily available, doesn't mean you shut up shop and give in, it means you try harder and look further. I wonder if you are by any chance related to Neville Chamberlain? Just because we have no immediate candidate to replace the half-wit in charge, doesn't change the fact that WE STILL HAVE A HALF-WIT IN CHARGE.
Right and tell me when in the past 30 years have we had a board, chairman and owner who have done more for the club than the current set-up?

Was it the lot who sold half our ground to a supermarket?

Or the last lot who nearly bankrupted the club building the new ground and building a hotel using contractors belonging to the chairmans construction company?

Pray tell when have we had a better situation than this?

pie_in_the, sky says...
1:28pm Fri 26 Oct 07

just before we assemble and man the barrackades,storm the whatever can someone tell the little red bloke with the loudhailer that we know what to do and how to organize ourselves without the patronizing suggestions from a manc clubber who moisturizes (allover probably!)


ta luv

trottersforever, bolton says...
1:32pm Fri 26 Oct 07

wonder if there was some mis-understanding between Mugson & Phil ****-side. did Gartside think he was being promised the prem league title when Mugson told him he'd get him the championship !?!

J4, Bolton says...
1:33pm Fri 26 Oct 07

pie_in_the wrote:
just before we assemble and man the barrackades,storm the whatever can someone tell the little red bloke with the loudhailer that we know what to do and how to organize ourselves without the patronizing suggestions from a manc clubber who moisturizes (allover probably!) ta luv
Well we need to organise something now ready for sunday then don't we! All i was saying regards king eric is he was giving us some good suggestions and i asked if anyone else has some suggestions. Instead of trying to pick fights between our selves we should be sticking together!!!!

pie_in_the, sky says...
1:39pm Fri 26 Oct 07

absolutely agree we should stick together.I just don't consider the posing from a united fan who regulary comes on for the attention to feed his narcissistic tendencies as being a together that I want to stick with ...if you get my drift

lord kangana, Bolton says...
1:43pm Fri 26 Oct 07

JON:-

I'm flabbergasted.

We are MILLIONS in debt.And the fans didn't complain.

We spent no money on our team when the time was right to. And the fans didn't complain.

We have just absurdly mishandled the leaving of the best manager we've had in 1/2 a century.
And the fans didn't complain.

We replaced him with a guy who from day one wasn't qualified for the job.
And the fans didnt complain.

We watch our team plummet to the bottom of the league. And the fans complained A LITTLE.

We sack said manager, who from day one had no funds and wasn't up to the task. AND STILL THE FANS DIDN'T COMPLAIN.

Pray tell, because I'm lost here....

WHEN IS THE TIME TO GET OFF YOUR FAT ARIS AND ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE CLUB YOU LOVE????

jay, bolton says...
1:43pm Fri 26 Oct 07

Jon wrote:
jay wrote:
King Cain wrote:
Raoul Duke wrote:
Jon wrote: Anyone chanting INSIDE the ground is NOT a fan of BWFC and as far as I'm concerned should be turned on by all the other decent fans WHO want our club to stay in the premiership. If you must protest, do it outside, although even that I find highly pathetic and quite frankly ridiculous.
Well said that man.
Raoul Duke, serious question; Are you BWFC TIL I DIE with a new log in? Same views, same frequency of posts, same attacks on anti Gartslime comments, questioning loyalties, alot of similarities. Also BWFC TIL I DIE has not commented for a while which coincides with your introduction to this site. There WAS a protest last night the evidence is in the attendance. Protests do work but it depends on how you protest, I protested by not attending last night and don’t anyone try and question as to whether i am a fan or not. I doubt many on this site have supported the club as much as me over the last 20+ years. I am genuinely gutted about our club’s plight and the people running or should I say ruining our club.
i think your right mate, raoul duke and boring jon are both full of sh1t. they would stick up for gartside if he appointed a woman as manager i think and jon would come up with someway of saying it shows gartsides vision lol! I too have been BWFC since was 8, 22years now and been to the leyton orients, southends and northamptons. At the time they where good days and still enjoyed the matches, but as most of us on here we dont want to see them days ever again!
Jay, OK Gartside and Eddie Davies out. Who do you want in to run and finance the club? Come on names and numbers. Who is going to invest the 15M that Davies has so far just to keep the club running? Who is going to want to invest 10% of their own wealth just to pay off interest charges only to take abuse from fans who haven't bothered doing any research? Who is going to invest in a club with dwindling crowds, that is losing money? You tell me, if Davies and Gartside go, who is coming in? I want names and figures. If you can't produce that then what are you asking for?
what are you on? stick your names and figures and dont be going on about research if you think any club makes their full in goings and out goings full public knowledge then your a very guillable person to put it polietly! All you talk about is financial waffle when the biggest financial mistake we could make is going down! 35million more to every club in the prem this year, like ive said before you make it sound like gartside and davies drive round in 2yr old ford focus,s. Also isnt warbys still part of our backers, im not sure but if they are still part of our backers aren,t they not worth 400million as a company? So if they are part of BWFC still, could they not spare a few quid to our club that is so poor we had to build a big fkoff hotel for some bizarre reason. Cant be that poor! Oh putting Megson in charge does show forward vision from Gartslime, end of october and hes showing us fans he seems to be planning for life in the fizzy pop!

kigbillspacked, bolton says...
1:45pm Fri 26 Oct 07

just seen press conference gartside looked well rattled. looks like things are taking its toll...hopefully

Trotter, Bolton says...
1:46pm Fri 26 Oct 07

A tentaive and nervous Phil Gartside struggled through the questions asked about "HIM"

Gary "WE" Megson on the other hand came over very well.

The fans "Fickle" to quote Gartside.

Funds in the transfer window!! Is that the funds from players going out, can I ask?

Roll on Sunday to see the outcome!!

GARTSIDE OUT

BWFC-SAVE-OUR-CLUB, Bolton says...
1:50pm Fri 26 Oct 07

nervous Phil Gartside

JOKE ONE BIG JOKE!!!!

People in football told PG that he has done the right thing!!!
HA HA HA WHO… graham taylor, sammy lee, colin todd, roy mcfarland.

i wonder who!!

FX0000, bolton says...
1:51pm Fri 26 Oct 07

goodluck to megson i say,give him chanceits prob 50/50 he will succeed.not just down to the manager and gartside,the players got to take some stick an all.

pie_in_the, sky says...
2:00pm Fri 26 Oct 07

it's called pressure and this can represent the begining of a consistent relentless phase of pressure rather than a brief storm he need to weather -which he is what he will be hoping it is.
....we decide which, meanwhile lord kangana got his war paint on and is holding up the banner

superwhites international army

marching and having a laugh as well!


BWFC-SAVE-OUR-CLUB, Bolton says...
2:01pm Fri 26 Oct 07

JOKE ONE BIG JOKE!!!!

People in football told PG that he has done the right thing!!!
HA HA HA WHO… graham taylor, sammy lee, colin todd, roy mcfarland.

i wonder who!!

Looks like he is on his way out!!

BWFC-SAVE-OUR-CLUB, OutSide The REEBOK says...
2:04pm Fri 26 Oct 07

Anyone wana join me!!!

James, Westhoughton says...
2:05pm Fri 26 Oct 07

Ok, the "fickle" comment was the last straw.

Who is prepared to help create an organisation "Love Bolton, Hate Gartside" and get ourselves properly organised?

BWFC-SAVE-OUR-CLUB, Bolton says...
2:08pm Fri 26 Oct 07

me james

lord kangana, Bolton says...
2:10pm Fri 26 Oct 07

pie_in_the wrote:
it's called pressure and this can represent the begining of a consistent relentless phase of pressure rather than a brief storm he need to weather -which he is what he will be hoping it is. ....we decide which, meanwhile lord kangana got his war paint on and is holding up the banner superwhites international army marching and having a laugh as well!
Banners will be drawn for Munich!!

LOVE BWFC HATE GARTSIDE

and

SUPERWHITES INTERNATIONAL ARMY (hoping that will be a big one!)

God, I really hate Gartside right now. :-(

King Cain, Bolton says...
2:11pm Fri 26 Oct 07

Wow Gartslime looked well rattled on that interview. JON Gartslime was on the board when we made the move to the Reebok although he wasn't the chairman that was Hargreaves. For the record it was Hargreaves who had shares in the steel company (think it was Watson's) hence the ridiculous overspend and unnecessary amount of steel used on the Reebok. Jon where are you getting your 15 million that Davies has put in? Don't tell me the books because i have asked an accountant in the family to look at BWFC's books and there's alot of figure juggling going on, hidden expenses etc.

skyrack, radcliffe says...
2:27pm Fri 26 Oct 07

Having just watched the press conference, what I wouldn't have given to be a reporter there.Why did no one ask Gartside about Mark Curtis's dealings in this appointment. When the question was raised about money being made available in January ,why again didnt someone push as to what sort of figure,and if it is a decent amount why was big money not made available over previous years.I am sorry Mr Megson you might try to convince some people you are right for the job but you don't convince me,and you Gartside, to show such utter contempt for the fans of this great club well to be frank words fail me, as at times they seem to fail you.Not the greatest press conference,the Wanderers media people couldn't wait to get it finished, get Gartside and Mr Megson out with as little questioning as possible.

James, Westhoughton says...
2:28pm Fri 26 Oct 07

IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN JOINING THE "LOVE BOLTON, HATE GARTSIDE" GROUP/CAMPAIGN and want to help organise properly, please send an e-mail (and how you would be prepared to get involved) to LOVEBOLTON@WHEELSHOS
TING.COM

davel, n wales says...
2:31pm Fri 26 Oct 07

lord kanga spot on ,good to see gartside squirming ,calling the fans fickle is priceless coming from that low life as for gary megson well most people are right we should all get behind him .yes he is not the right man for the job but what else can we do .but as for gartside he has got to go and people should protest before every game outside the ground and he will soon get fed up.the reason i hate him so much is because he lies all the time and the disgraceful way he slagged off allardyce.sammy lee people feel sorry for i dont what a arrogant dickhead firstly he tells everyone we will play attractive football 442 then when we already have 4 strikers he goes and wastes 2 million on another one .bring s in 5 midfield players .hello what about our weakest area defence he bring s in andy o brien who couldnt get into portsmouth team and lets faye go our defence will be our downfall ,and to put the icing on the cake gives hunt a 5 year year contract amateurs

YouriLeGod, Bolton says...
2:35pm Fri 26 Oct 07

Easy Protest for Sunday if you want to do that sort of thing.

2 sheets of A4 paper required. Print 'Gartside' on one sheet and 'Out' on the other. Hold them up whenever the Sky cameras point at you. No need to rant and rave. That should make the point.

Simple and effective.

Hey Presto - One silent demonstration

illy6b, Bolton says...
2:38pm Fri 26 Oct 07

Why is King Eric the only person talking sense? Protests need to be organised. Gartside will be laughing at the comments by the fans because he knows he can exploit your blind faith to BWFC as he has been doing for years. If you aren't happy, do something about it because all the moaning is becoming boring. If you aren't going to do anything then back Megson. The club is becoming a joke and the idiots who protested then shook hands with Megson, even asking for his autograph hardly help

markg, New Jersey says...
2:41pm Fri 26 Oct 07

Raoul Duke wrote:
Did you blame Gartside when your dog died? There's absolutely NOTHING the Chairman can do if the players aren't willing to perform on the pitch.
At last someone speaking some common sense on here.

Let Phil resign, who's going to take over as chairman? Any of you lot with any experience of running a business or a football club? Come and take charge, I'm sure Phil will find other less stressful things to do with his life.

You lot are just doleys, who think you're so tough by spewing the vitriol on here. Why weren't you at the game last night protesting if you're so **** off? Oh that's right, the dole doesn't pay enough for the bus fare to Reebok!

Where were the team a few years ago, when there was a different chairman and board of directors in charge?
Who came in to take charge at the top and bring in a new manager and bring the team the success it deserves?

Where are all these people with money that are looking to take over at the top? I don't see Atherton's spouting off that they want to come in and take charge. I don't see anyone from Reebok offering to put their money up to get a seat on the board.

I wonder why no Russian, American or Thai money men have offered to buy Bolton?

Phil should resign and see where the club ends up after he's gone. If there's no money coming into the club from the board, it will be a big trip to the bankruptcy courts. The Reebok stadium will be replaced by more shops.

If anyone has any proof that Phil is taking money out of the club let's see you post your facts here with a traceable email address (that means no Yahoo, AOL or MSN addresses)

Normid Nomad, Howfen says...
2:49pm Fri 26 Oct 07

Jon wrote:
jay wrote:
King Cain wrote:
Raoul Duke wrote:
Jon wrote: Anyone chanting INSIDE the ground is NOT a fan of BWFC and as far as I'm concerned should be turned on by all the other decent fans WHO want our club to stay in the premiership. If you must protest, do it outside, although even that I find highly pathetic and quite frankly ridiculous.
Well said that man.
Raoul Duke, serious question; Are you BWFC TIL I DIE with a new log in? Same views, same frequency of posts, same attacks on anti Gartslime comments, questioning loyalties, alot of similarities. Also BWFC TIL I DIE has not commented for a while which coincides with your introduction to this site. There WAS a protest last night the evidence is in the attendance. Protests do work but it depends on how you protest, I protested by not attending last night and don’t anyone try and question as to whether i am a fan or not. I doubt many on this site have supported the club as much as me over the last 20+ years. I am genuinely gutted about our club’s plight and the people running or should I say ruining our club.
i think your right mate, raoul duke and boring jon are both full of sh1t. they would stick up for gartside if he appointed a woman as manager i think and jon would come up with someway of saying it shows gartsides vision lol! I too have been BWFC since was 8, 22years now and been to the leyton orients, southends and northamptons. At the time they where good days and still enjoyed the matches, but as most of us on here we dont want to see them days ever again!
Jay, OK Gartside and Eddie Davies out. Who do you want in to run and finance the club? Come on names and numbers. Who is going to invest the 15M that Davies has so far just to keep the club running? Who is going to want to invest 10% of their own wealth just to pay off interest charges only to take abuse from fans who haven't bothered doing any research? Who is going to invest in a club with dwindling crowds, that is losing money? You tell me, if Davies and Gartside go, who is coming in? I want names and figures. If you can't produce that then what are you asking for?
You mean Jon who slagged off my intelligence and parentage earlier this year - I think that you should all realise by the manner of his posts that he has something to do with BWFC either Directly or Indirectly - He is a FIRST CLASS KN08 and it seems to me, would be the kind of person who could justify anything that is against the general concensus, just because he feels that he is educationally superior to anyone else on here ! Would be interested to know how many games 'Jon' has attended in his supporting life !

Trotter, Bolton says...
2:50pm Fri 26 Oct 07

markg wrote:
Raoul Duke wrote: Did you blame Gartside when your dog died? There's absolutely NOTHING the Chairman can do if the players aren't willing to perform on the pitch.
At last someone speaking some common sense on here. Let Phil resign, who's going to take over as chairman? Any of you lot with any experience of running a business or a football club? Come and take charge, I'm sure Phil will find other less stressful things to do with his life. You lot are just doleys, who think you're so tough by spewing the vitriol on here. Why weren't you at the game last night protesting if you're so **** off? Oh that's right, the dole doesn't pay enough for the bus fare to Reebok! Where were the team a few years ago, when there was a different chairman and board of directors in charge? Who came in to take charge at the top and bring in a new manager and bring the team the success it deserves? Where are all these people with money that are looking to take over at the top? I don't see Atherton's spouting off that they want to come in and take charge. I don't see anyone from Reebok offering to put their money up to get a seat on the board. I wonder why no Russian, American or Thai money men have offered to buy Bolton? Phil should resign and see where the club ends up after he's gone. If there's no money coming into the club from the board, it will be a big trip to the bankruptcy courts. The Reebok stadium will be replaced by more shops. If anyone has any proof that Phil is taking money out of the club let's see you post your facts here with a traceable email address (that means no Yahoo, AOL or MSN addresses)
What a FICKLE post

Normid Nomad, Howfen says...
2:53pm Fri 26 Oct 07

markg wrote:
Raoul Duke wrote: Did you blame Gartside when your dog died? There's absolutely NOTHING the Chairman can do if the players aren't willing to perform on the pitch.
At last someone speaking some common sense on here. Let Phil resign, who's going to take over as chairman? Any of you lot with any experience of running a business or a football club? Come and take charge, I'm sure Phil will find other less stressful things to do with his life. You lot are just doleys, who think you're so tough by spewing the vitriol on here. Why weren't you at the game last night protesting if you're so **** off? Oh that's right, the dole doesn't pay enough for the bus fare to Reebok! Where were the team a few years ago, when there was a different chairman and board of directors in charge? Who came in to take charge at the top and bring in a new manager and bring the team the success it deserves? Where are all these people with money that are looking to take over at the top? I don't see Atherton's spouting off that they want to come in and take charge. I don't see anyone from Reebok offering to put their money up to get a seat on the board. I wonder why no Russian, American or Thai money men have offered to buy Bolton? Phil should resign and see where the club ends up after he's gone. If there's no money coming into the club from the board, it will be a big trip to the bankruptcy courts. The Reebok stadium will be replaced by more shops. If anyone has any proof that Phil is taking money out of the club let's see you post your facts here with a traceable email address (that means no Yahoo, AOL or MSN addresses)
Get your facts right - I think that you will find that Reebok offered to buy three times (before the Adidas takeover) and were knocked back everytime, because the previous and present boards saw /see BWFC as a massive cash cow.

pie_in_the, S. I. A says...
2:56pm Fri 26 Oct 07

...payola steel contracts, bent expenses, mythical costs, falsifying accounts, figure juggling pockets being lined, maybe this is the historical context if it is tell us more.

The problem at the moment for Gartside's PR is how to repair credibility after

1 the way BSA's departure was handled and subsequent comments and responses he made in the wake of this
2 the way the appointment of Sammy Lee was handled.
3 The farce involving Souness, the Agent and the interview that wasn't.
4 The rushed appointment of a candidate of the calibre of Megson whose performance will be crucial to Gartsides holding on to his own job.

Ride the storm and it will blow over will be the PR mans response.

We're telling him it won't.

Until megson sinks into obscurity post Reebok what does all this amount to ?


Gartside's next ulcer

send him a packet of polos ...take the pi55 !


Superwhites International Army

King Eric, . says...
3:03pm Fri 26 Oct 07


LOVE BWFC HATE GARTSIDE


What a great idea for a banner.
;-)))

Best of luck lads. Despite being a Manc tw.at I'm fully supportive of the moneymen and greasy pole climbers ruining our game.
Without us, these parasites would be nothing. No executive seats, no FA committees,no kudos, nothing, nowt, zilch.

Northwich White, Northwich says...
3:09pm Fri 26 Oct 07

Phil Gartside
Laurel Farm
Reedgate Lane
Antrobus
Northwich
Cheshire

pie_in_the, sky says...
3:17pm Fri 26 Oct 07

a parasite, on this site, calling a parasite?



triple wammy

rc1972, Bolton says...
3:19pm Fri 26 Oct 07

A quote from the Daily Mail. (Page 111)"When Brian Little left we felt betrayed, when Mark Maghee left we felt let down. When Martin O Neil left our world stopped. When Martin Allen left we felt disillusioned. Megson leaving, were dancing in the streets" NOT MY WORDS, THE WORDS OF A LEICESTER FAN!! Get these clowns out.

pie_in_the, sky says...
3:46pm Fri 26 Oct 07

northwich white please post this address onto the threads at the top of the page


many thanks does the postcode starts with CW9 ?

Northwich White, Northwich says...
3:47pm Fri 26 Oct 07

Phil Gartside
Laural Farm
Reedgate Lane
Antrobus
Northwich
Cheshire


Get writing to the man that will destroy our club.This his address with his big stables etc....

Northwich White, Northwich says...
3:49pm Fri 26 Oct 07

It will have a cw9 postcode, but i dont know the rest.Trust me this is his addreess

Trotter, Bolton says...
3:54pm Fri 26 Oct 07

Northwich White wrote:
Phil Gartside Laural Farm Reedgate Lane Antrobus Northwich Cheshire Get writing to the man that will destroy our club.This his address with his big stables etc....
It is in the post as I type this responce, would not be surprised though if the address is deleted, so just keep posting the address on every thread.

He has got to go and go NOW

FICKLE AND THOSE WHO KNOW THIER FOOTBALL KNOW IT WAS THE RIGHT DECISION is the straw that broke the CAMELS BACK, this is were his stables will come in use, for the camels with broken backs.

illy6b, Bolton says...
3:55pm Fri 26 Oct 07

A bit out of order posting Gartside's address on here. The man is entitled to some privacy.
Surely it's enough to write to him at the Reebok.

King Eric, . says...
3:58pm Fri 26 Oct 07

Posted by: pie_in_the, sky on 3:17pm today
a parasite, on this site, calling a parasite? triple wammy
a parasite, on this site, calling a parasite?



triple wammy


Your club is in crisis but you'd rather spend your energy slagging me off ?
Thanks God you still have fans who do care instead of tools like you.

Trotter, Bolton says...
4:01pm Fri 26 Oct 07

illy6b wrote:
A bit out of order posting Gartside's address on here. The man is entitled to some privacy. Surely it's enough to write to him at the Reebok.
Are you kidding man, the chap has just called every Bolton fan "Fickle" on national television, he also questioned the knowledge of every Bolton fan on HIS decisions that he has just made, he also lied while being filmed on Panorama, no end to this man's talents are there, besides he sends mail to MY house.

GARTSIDE OUT

illy6b, Bolton says...
4:10pm Fri 26 Oct 07

Trotter wrote:
illy6b wrote: A bit out of order posting Gartside's address on here. The man is entitled to some privacy. Surely it's enough to write to him at the Reebok.
Are you kidding man, the chap has just called every Bolton fan "Fickle" on national television, he also questioned the knowledge of every Bolton fan on HIS decisions that he has just made, he also lied while being filmed on Panorama, no end to this man's talents are there, besides he sends mail to MY house. GARTSIDE OUT
Still no reason to harrass him at his home address. If he sends you post it can only be because you have provided BWFC with your address. Have a bit of decency. And football fans are notoriously fickle. At the end of the day we have Megson now so give him a chance. If he fails I'm sure Gartsides position will become untenable. How many people used to slag Allardyce off for the way his team played. No wonder he left.

King Eric, . says...
4:10pm Fri 26 Oct 07

Quite funny really but some guys I know were peed off with Ferdinand at United.
A ban for missing a drug test, comes back and demands a pay rise.
So they drove to his house in Wilmslow and confronted him.
A week later he signed his new contract.
King Eric does not in any way condone any direct action against Mr Gartside or any of the other bloodsuckers at BWFC.
;-)

birch, chorley says...
4:34pm Fri 26 Oct 07

Say it as it is wrote:
James wrote:
MrWesrtToYou wrote: Sorry I was late for the start of the game the passion wagon broke down on the way to the reebok!! How did the protest go!! Are we protesting b4 the villa game??
The protest was a damp squib. A few chanting and me holding up my "Gartside Out" poster. Did make the Braga fans laugh with my poster I made which was in Portugese - words to the effect of "Our Club Chairman Is a W*****". Hopefully, that will be in some newspaper in Portugal. Dont think there is enough will for a Gartside Out fight. The masses are apparently angry, but not to the extent they want to protest. I feel I did my bit...not sure what else is next now. It is 11am and the whole Gartside/Megson thing has taken over my life for two days. GARTSIDE OUT
Let's not give up guys. Protest must go on before and after the game not during. We need to continue supporting the the team but we need to give it Gartslime in the neck. This guy has had us over a barrel so many times before and always comes out smelling of roses-remember the carling cup final fiasco? and then trying to offload Jay Jay while telling the sheep(fans) he was going nowhere and don't forget he's had two shots at replacing Sam and has failed us both times(it's only a matter of time before Megson fails) No wonder BSA had enough. He must of been spinning yarns for Sam as well as us sheep
there is only one way now, boycott the game, dont go, go to the ground and watch it in scotts bar over the road until he is out!

ilovegravy, in me front room says...
4:43pm Fri 26 Oct 07

Iceberg dead ahead in the form of Gary Megson!!!

Normid Nomad, Howfen says...
4:48pm Fri 26 Oct 07

Everyone should order and send a ton of manure to Garshites house

svengoli, says...
4:54pm Fri 26 Oct 07

Everything is summed up perfectly by the differing attitudes of the boards of two clubs in similar situations: our own and Tottenham's.

We lose an effective manager and replace him with a novice with no communication skills; we sack him and, despite all the pleadings of fans and the "wisdom" of the press, look even further downwards to employ a simple Championship-standar

d grafter with only failure and discord as his track record in the premier league.

Spurs, on the other hand, dismiss a clear players' and fans' favourite, but then look upwards for a replacement in Ramos or Hughes.

I know money is a factor here, but the relative attitudes could not be in more stark contrast. I could not detect any attempt to better our club via the short-list of candidates, despite some possibilities being available (Irureta, for example).

One catastrophic appointment is worrying; but to repeat the error smacks of sheer ineptitude and pig-headedness, given all the evidence and advice afforded to Mr. Gartside.

It is JUST possible that the players will rally round to save their own pride and futures, but there are NO grounds for believing, based on previous evidence and performance, that any such improvement will have ANYTHING to do with Mr. Megson.

In short, Mr. Gartside has invested in an enormous GAMBLE with our club, for which he should not be forgiven or pitied when the chickens come home to roost, as logic suggests they inevitably will.

Incidentally, and very briefly, some recourse to the dictionary to check the meaning of the word "fickle" would be in order!

Ed Page, says...
5:00pm Fri 26 Oct 07

Normid Nomad wrote:
Everyone should order and send a ton of manure to Garshites house
Gartside is out of order when he claims that
anyone who knows football understands this appointment
But I for one don't agree with posting his address on this site. Let's keep the fight clean guys. We can out him with our arguments but his actions don't warrant any form of direct action on his home. Let's keep his family out of this please.

Angus, Bury St Edmunds says...
5:01pm Fri 26 Oct 07

"We chose Gary on the basis of his credentials. A lot of people in football understand this appointment"

Unbelievable quote. What the hell are his creditionals?
1. Never won more than 45% of games managed at a particular club.
2. Won 7 out of 48 premier league matches.
3. Dismissed from every club he's been at.
4. Has no loyalty - played for 9 clubs and sacked from Stockport for talking to other clubs + been at 3 clubs since June this year.

Shocking...

GARTSIDE OUT, MEGSON OUT

birch, chorley says...
5:03pm Fri 26 Oct 07

illy6b wrote:
Trotter wrote:
illy6b wrote: A bit out of order posting Gartside's address on here. The man is entitled to some privacy. Surely it's enough to write to him at the Reebok.
Are you kidding man, the chap has just called every Bolton fan "Fickle" on national television, he also questioned the knowledge of every Bolton fan on HIS decisions that he has just made, he also lied while being filmed on Panorama, no end to this man's talents are there, besides he sends mail to MY house. GARTSIDE OUT
Still no reason to harrass him at his home address. If he sends you post it can only be because you have provided BWFC with your address. Have a bit of decency. And football fans are notoriously fickle. At the end of the day we have Megson now so give him a chance. If he fails I'm sure Gartsides position will become untenable. How many people used to slag Allardyce off for the way his team played. No wonder he left.
i am going to have a **** on his lawn, whos coming?

ilovegravy, in me front room says...
5:06pm Fri 26 Oct 07

oooo I love word games...play...am I right?

illy6b, Bolton says...
5:09pm Fri 26 Oct 07

birch wrote:
illy6b wrote:
Trotter wrote:
illy6b wrote: A bit out of order posting Gartside's address on here. The man is entitled to some privacy. Surely it's enough to write to him at the Reebok.
Are you kidding man, the chap has just called every Bolton fan "Fickle" on national television, he also questioned the knowledge of every Bolton fan on HIS decisions that he has just made, he also lied while being filmed on Panorama, no end to this man's talents are there, besides he sends mail to MY house. GARTSIDE OUT
Still no reason to harrass him at his home address. If he sends you post it can only be because you have provided BWFC with your address. Have a bit of decency. And football fans are notoriously fickle. At the end of the day we have Megson now so give him a chance. If he fails I'm sure Gartsides position will become untenable. How many people used to slag Allardyce off for the way his team played. No wonder he left.
i am going to have a **** on his lawn, whos coming?
well that's brilliant. How old are you? 10

jpl, bangkok says...
5:58pm Fri 26 Oct 07

so what's the problem?, just been away participating in a triathlon, swimming in warm sea's, cycling along the coast, running through a old fishing villages, drinking good quality red wine, enjoying the warmth of good, pleasant conversation and company, I guess you guys are not getting much, are you? so gary megson is in charge, makes no difference, we are going to do just the same if we had appointed lil sammy, souness, jewel, coleman, bruce, etc. there are only a few managers around who will make a difference but they are outside our finacial boundaries. my advice is to let's see what happens and to take a chill pill, worry about when you are next going to have a laugh, because seriously this is all low down on the seriousness radar, now what is serious is celebrities are losing their 3rd homes in san Diego and need you help:) thats serious!

King Eric, . says...
6:04pm Fri 26 Oct 07

Sammy may be going to coach back at Liverpool.

trotter, Bolton(Horwich) says...
8:03pm Fri 26 Oct 07

i have one word....MEH!!

Trotter, Bolton says...
9:01pm Fri 26 Oct 07

King Eric wrote:
Quite funny really but some guys I know were peed off with Ferdinand at United. A ban for missing a drug test, comes back and demands a pay rise. So they drove to his house in Wilmslow and confronted him. A week later he signed his new contract. King Eric does not in any way condone any direct action against Mr Gartside or any of the other bloodsuckers at BWFC. ;-)
ha ha ha ha, good one Eric you sound like a very good diplomat my boy, throw away your spoon now that you have been stirring with.

Brownie, Bolton says...
9:41pm Fri 26 Oct 07

King Eric,
What good did protesting do Man. United supporters?
The yanks still took over the club and not only put up the prices to pay back the debt their take-over incurred, but also made the sad punters who bought season tickets also perchase tickets for all other matches at Old Trafford. So much for the power of protest!
On the other hand, it is healthier for a club to have fans who protest rather than having apathetic ones. At least the former have to attend to protest. The latter simply lose interest and stop coming.

tax payer, Bolton says...
10:31am Sat 27 Oct 07

BW fans make me laugh, you've a little manager cos ur a little club.

sounds to me like you're preparing for next year in the championship.

listen 2 me, lancashire says...
11:17pm Sat 27 Oct 07

Daxter wrote:
Give Megson a chance.
hes nothing but bad look i say bing back sammy lee all for given sammy lad

BWFC-TIL-I-DIE, BOLTON says...
9:24am Sun 28 Oct 07

10 games, 15 points.... anything less- he follows sammy lee through the door!!!! SIMPLE... it aint megsons fault... he's got the job, back him for 10 games... if he fails, gartsides out, megsons out, but unfortunately we will be down a division... fingers crossed and lets hope megsons got hidden talent... how u can hide it for your entire career though is beyond me ??:-)

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