xangie668x wrote:
Well thats why its called the bolton news! we read it because we want to know whats going on in our area.

What have stories about Radcliffe got to do with Bolton?

Rocky wrote:

xangie668x wrote: Well thats why its called the bolton news! we read it because we want to know whats going on in our area.

What have stories about Radcliffe got to do with Bolton? The Bolton Boundary ends at Bury road Breightmet. just before the top bull.

Andrew wrote:

Rocky wrote:

xangie668x wrote: Well thats why its called the bolton news! we read it because we want to know whats going on in our area.

What have stories about Radcliffe got to do with Bolton? The Bolton Boundary ends at Bury road Breightmet. just before the top bull.

And the Bolton News circulation area covers Bury too. Your logic suggest the MEN should only cover a very narrowly defined area rather than Manchester, Salford, Stockport, Ashton, Bolton, Bury, Wigan, Altrincham........

Rocky wrote:
Yeah Goats and Civil partnerships are not top of my list Andrew sorry.

Rocky wrote:

Andrew wrote:

Rocky wrote:

xangie668x wrote: Well thats why its called the bolton news! we read it because we want to know whats going on in our area.

What have stories about Radcliffe got to do with Bolton? The Bolton Boundary ends at Bury road Breightmet. just before the top bull.

And the Bolton News circulation area covers Bury too. Your logic suggest the MEN should only cover a very narrowly defined area rather than Manchester, Salford, Stockport, Ashton, Bolton, Bury, Wigan, Altrincham........

Yeah but how many people from Radcliffe browse the website and why has the bury times featured it as well? Why repeat the same headlines? Anyway Andrew haven't you got and fitting sessions to go to?

Rocky wrote:
"ncluding me who thinks flooding close to home is a strong story" IT was at least 2 miles away from the towns border. And how anyone could know the flood wasn't in Bolton by looking at the headline would be a miracle. Maybe you could explain.

Andrew wrote:

Rocky wrote:
Yeah Goats and Civil partnerships are not top of my list Andrew sorry.

Yeah, typically puerile response. There is a course a thread on the EU treaty - that not enough for you?

Those 50 householders probably have more pressing concerns than the EU treaty and your other hobby horses. It must be a total nightmare, not that you appear to care. Property and belongings damaged, power off, possibility of need temporary housing maybe, insurers and contractors to deal with....

But if you're going to have an opinion, how about making it informed?

Gloria wrote:
Here we go again............... .........

amanda hughes wrote:
Lancashire, is that some distant county over in and past Rossendale.

Rocky you can only be a Boltonian and a lancastrian if you where born in Bolton before 1974 as after that Bolton became part of the county of Greater Manchester. If you were then ok but whether you like as junior says we are all part of the Greater Manchester county now and better off for it as well. Lancashire was a county foisted on areas of north Manchester such as Bury several centuries ago but as anyone who knows about our great city and it's satellite towns the conurbation and city of Manchester pre-dates lancashire by centuries.

Rocky wrote:

Gloria wrote:
Here we go again...............
.........

Glorious Gloria.

let me get my guitar because there is a song in that somewhere.

How good are your tonsils?

Gloria wrote:

Rocky wrote:

Gloria wrote:
Here we go again...............
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Glorious Gloria.

let me get my guitar because there is a song in that somewhere.

How good are your tonsils?

Olympic Standard Rocky !!! ;-)

Greater Manchester junior member wrote:
ha ha you have been well and truely flushed out as a "Fiend of real lanashire". Read below facts stated in law rather than just opinions and outdated references that you refer to. Greater Manchester is a metropolitan county in North West England, with a population of 2.55 million. It was created as a metropolitan county in 1974 after the passage of the Local Government Act 1972. The county consists of ten metropolitan boroughs, including the City of Manchester and the City of Salford.

Greater Manchester is landlocked, and as a ceremonial county borders Cheshire (to the south-west and south), Derbyshire (to the south-east), West Yorkshire (to the north-east), Lancashire (to the north) and Merseyside (to the east). The Greater Manchester Urban Area is the United Kingdom's third most populous conurbation, and spans across most of the county's territory.

Greater Manchester County Council was abolished in 1986, and so its districts (the metropolitan boroughs) are now effectively unitary authorities. However, the metropolitan county, which is some 492.7 square miles (1,276.1 km²), continues to exist in law and as a geographic frame of reference

Greater Manchester junior member wrote:
I for one wouldn't read the Bolton Evening news as I'm not from Bolton. I do however read the Bury Times and The Manchester Evening news as they are the local papers for Bury.

Gloria wrote:
and Greater Manchester Couonty Council was abolished in 1986, so I dont recognise it anymore (not that I ever did)

However

I was born in Lancashire and I have always lived in Lancashire.

Rocky wrote:

Gloria wrote:
and Greater Manchester Couonty Council was abolished in 1986, so I dont recognise it anymore (not that I ever did)

However

I was born in Lancashire and I have always lived in Lancashire.

Said like a true Lancashire lass.

Ahmed Patel wrote:
Rocky you are really thick man! Stop reading old books. Even when you buy a house when you get the searches and deeds they show the true county as they have to in law and guess what - Bolton, Greater manchester that smae goes for Liquidations etc they all list Bolton as greater Manchester.Sorry folks not all Boltonians are as insular and backward as Rockyand Gloria. Power to Greater Manchester, peace!

Rocky wrote:

Ahmed Patel wrote: Rocky you are really thick man! Stop reading old books. Even when you buy a house when you get the searches and deeds they show the true county as they have to in law and guess what - Bolton, Greater manchester that smae goes for Liquidations etc they all list Bolton as greater Manchester.Sorry folks not all Boltonians are as insular and backward as Rockyand Gloria. Power to Greater Manchester, peace!

Ahmed my dear friend. I don't read old books I go of old maps where the land boundaries exist and Bolton is still part of Lancashire .

Gloria wrote:
I know all about AGMA thanks very much amanda....its just another level of beaurocracy which dishes out the coffers from the Airport !!! And it doesnt make major decisions on our behalf.....thats done by our local council, who have the money from our council tax and from government, who have monies through our taxes..... AGMA is not funded by the people, but by the councils and government..... like I said, beaurocracy Na'h then lass am fair clempt an am gooin fer a broo.

Jodie wrote:
Why are we even having this debate anyhow? One person comes from one place and another person from another. Drawing up maps of borders, etc.. means nothing really =] Im from Bolton and support Bolton, and like any other Wanderers fan.. Man U and Man C are somewhat derby teams and so , therefore, i'd prefer Lancashire to Manchester anyday =D It's all personal preference.

And our governments proper corrupt. I vote for a younger Government. We see things differently. Especially considering we are the ones who are growing up in their 'politically correct' world that they call humane.

I dont know if that makes sense.. and i dont care :D

Jodie wrote:
Why are we even having this debate anyhow? One person comes from one place and another person from another. Drawing up maps of borders, etc.. means nothing really =] Im from Bolton and support Bolton, and like any other Wanderers fan.. Man U and Man C are somewhat derby teams and so , therefore, i'd prefer Lancashire to Manchester anyday =D It's all personal preference. And our governments proper corrupt. I vote for a younger Government. We see things differently. Especially considering we are the ones who are growing up in their 'politically correct' world that they call humane. I dont know if that makes sense.. and i dont care :D

Jodie wrote:
Oh Yea.. you would look to Manchester and not Bolton. Manchester is a city.. We're not..

my point was more to do with the amount of updates on that story. When other as important stories get bumped to the bottom.

The updates should be pasted integral to the original story and reinjected to the top.
But the original story should be removed so it doesn't keep sending other stories down the list.

Stef wrote:
Get a grip Rocky u boring git. Y dont u stay well within the borders of Bolton n keep ur mouth shut instead of trying to pick arguments with people. Does it really matter where the borders are?! The article must be of interest to people from all areas as people have read it from far afield. Oh, and if you are as particular as you seem to be check your English it should be 'go OFF old maps' not of

Jodie wrote:
I am bothered, our government sucks! (that is without want for a better phrase)

Im 17, and its harsh how I can't get my views through this corrupt and controlling system.

Every person matters... Ah hem.. Within Government walls perhaps...

sitush wrote:
Just to get this back to the story itself, is anyone surprised that apparently the drains were blocked? I'm not: cannot remember the last time I saw the council cleaning highway drains as a matter of routine, but certainly it is in excess of a decade ago. Used to be a common sight even on the side-streets but now instead it is dodgy, crumbling road cambers, collapsed grids and huge puddles all over the shop where drains have become blocked. It doesn't take a genius to spot them: even on the relative heights of W/fld there are numerous blockages, some if which have existed for many years. Budgets, of course, but they find the money to paint the road every colour under the sun.

Yet the government are still allowing houses to be built on flood plains.(not these ones of course)

Rocky wrote:
OH and the reason Bolton council get money for Manchesters airport is because they own part of the company shares. Simple capitalist idea that might have passed you by but hey..

Gloria wrote:

amanda hughes wrote:

Gloria wrote: I know all about AGMA thanks very much amanda....its just another level of beaurocracy which dishes out the coffers from the Airport !!! And it doesnt make major decisions on our behalf.....thats done by our local council, who have the money from our council tax and from government, who have monies through our taxes..... AGMA is not funded by the people, but by the councils and government..... like I said, beaurocracy Na'h then lass am fair clempt an am gooin fer a broo.

Well Gloria if Bolton is not part of Greater Manchester then I'm afraid you cannot have anything from the coffers of our airport but youare and you do! AGMA doesn't make make decisions how about the congestion chargefor Greater Manchester!!! People from Bolton are very strange indeed. It is no wonder we Buryites look to Manchester and not Bolton.

Fantastic news....we don't want Buryites anyway.....our town is far superior to yours in terms of its facilities so we have reached an agreement...you dont want us and we dont want you

Ahmed Patel wrote:

gabon wrote: I have heard it all now a foreigner telling us what is what in our own country, Bolton became greater manchester because arseholes wanted it that way not what the people of Bolton wanted, Like rocky said they keep building but know thought of where the water will go hence the flooding, Glad mustaf seems to have gone.

Gabon you are racist scum! I'm no foreigner boy! I was born in Bolton , my dad was and so was my grandad who was originally from Longsight. I'm reporting you for racism and foul language.

Steve Ormrod wrote:
Folks, I live at No.68 Bury Road. A good 500 yards down the road from Withins. I came downstairs this morning to find my back garden was now a large pond. The drain had become a cascade too. Found out that the Fire Brigade were pumping water away from the houses higher up; straight onto Bury Road which was flooded already. All that water has to go somewhere... right down the drains, so flooding more properties like ours. My cellar is ruined. Although there was a change of plan to pump the water into the local canal, so stopping our deluge at 5pm, I'm still bailing out my cellar now after 10 tiring hours. I feel pity for those higher up the road, they must have had it much worse too. I applaud the services for their response and the Council guys have been really great. My criticism lies with the fat cats like United Utilities who wouldn't even come to look at the problem immediately. We kept getting fobbed off despite a few calls and it was 3 hours before anyone came to consider the problem. Which turned out to be a blocked sewer from the extra water. The grapevine says it was something to do with Elton reservoir releasing a lot of water due to recent rain? Dunno if it's true. Hey ho, the joys of owning a house in the valley!

Steve Ormrod wrote:
Folks,

I live at No.68 Bury Road. A good 500 yards down the road from Withins. I came downstairs this morning to find my back garden was now a large pond. The drain had become a cascade too.

Found out that the Fire Brigade were pumping water away from the houses higher up; straight onto Bury Road which was flooded already.

All that water has to go somewhere... right down the drains, so flooding more properties like ours.

My cellar is ruined. Although there was a change of plan to pump the water into the local canal, so stopping our deluge at 5pm, I'm still bailing out my cellar now after 10 tiring hours.

I feel pity for those higher up the road, they must have had it much worse too.

I applaud the services for their response and the Council guys have been really great. My criticism lies with the fat cats like United Utilities who wouldn't even come to look at the problem immediately.

We kept getting fobbed off despite a few calls and it was 3 hours before anyone came to consider the problem. Which turned out to be a blocked sewer from the extra water.

The grapevine says it was something to do with Elton reservoir releasing a lot of water due to recent rain? Dunno if it's true.

Hey ho, the joys of owning a house in the valley!

Andrew wrote:
Not necessarilly UU. Could be the council or even a landowner responsible for clearing the culvert - that seems to have been why Walshaw Road has flooded so often as no-one seems keen to take responsibility.

whitehowfan wrote:
A bolton lad me yeh, i love the banter between differant posters on here but how many of you actualy work and pay your tax and nic, i love it, i love it that the majority of people who post on the bolton news website care about the whites(sic) bwfc. have any of you regular posters thought of coming together and sitting in a very sad chat room together!!!

Les wrote:
I live in Bury, Lancashire. That is what the ROYAL Mail class it as. The blood is Lancastrian. The soil is Lancastrian. The Council are Lesser Manchester. When we joined with all them down there in the concrete jungle, all the trouble started. The peace of the country was spoilt. Now we are becoming built up to such an extent that roads are becoming car parks. Bring back the 60's when people had respect for one and all. If there was a fight, at least it was one on one & not that gang stuff that comes from the cities. OH, and bring back the Navada. That was the only reason to visit Bolton. Not much else there.

amanda hughes wrote:

Jodie wrote:
Oh Yea.. you would look to Manchester and not Bolton. Manchester is a city.. We\\\'re not..

What a pathetic comment, Bury is not a city, Stretford is not a city Oldham is not a city, Altrincham is not a city but all look to Manchester as their focus and city as does Bolton.It\\\'s a shame many of Boltons less well educated seem to see Manchester as a separate area, lets face facts Bolton is a nothing more than a suburb of Manchester where some of it\\\'s residents have delusions of grandeur in thinking they are a stand alone town.

Paul Bradley wrote:

Les wrote: I live in Bury, Lancashire. That is what the ROYAL Mail class it as. The blood is Lancastrian. The soil is Lancastrian. The Council are Lesser Manchester. When we joined with all them down there in the concrete jungle, all the trouble started. The peace of the country was spoilt. Now we are becoming built up to such an extent that roads are becoming car parks. Bring back the 60's when people had respect for one and all. If there was a fight, at least it was one on one & not that gang stuff that comes from the cities. OH, and bring back the Navada. That was the only reason to visit Bolton. Not much else there.

Les Bury is not in Lancashire it is clearly in Greater Manchester. I don't think the post office are a very good authority on correct address info they still list Sale as Cheshire with a Manchester postcode???? When Sale is clearly Greater Manchester just as Bury is, Try reading a map you goon! The soil is lancashire,? you are a wierdo Les call the soil what you wish but the fact is Bury is in Greater Manchester, I seem to remember a previous poster saying Bury was linked to Manchester many years before Lancashire. Besides it is pretty obvious Bury is completely linked to Manchester where Bury has nothing in common with towns in Lancashire such as Morecambe or Preston etc. Stop living in the past Les you old dinosaur Buryis in Greater Manchester it thats the way it is.

Les wrote:

Paul Bradley wrote:

Les wrote: I live in Bury, Lancashire. That is what the ROYAL Mail class it as. The blood is Lancastrian. The soil is Lancastrian. The Council are Lesser Manchester. When we joined with all them down there in the concrete jungle, all the trouble started. The peace of the country was spoilt. Now we are becoming built up to such an extent that roads are becoming car parks. Bring back the 60's when people had respect for one and all. If there was a fight, at least it was one on one & not that gang stuff that comes from the cities. OH, and bring back the Navada. That was the only reason to visit Bolton. Not much else there.

Les Bury is not in Lancashire it is clearly in Greater Manchester. I don't think the post office are a very good authority on correct address info they still list Sale as Cheshire with a Manchester postcode???? When Sale is clearly Greater Manchester just as Bury is, Try reading a map you goon! The soil is lancashire,? you are a wierdo Les call the soil what you wish but the fact is Bury is in Greater Manchester, I seem to remember a previous poster saying Bury was linked to Manchester many years before Lancashire. Besides it is pretty obvious Bury is completely linked to Manchester where Bury has nothing in common with towns in Lancashire such as Morecambe or Preston etc. Stop living in the past Les you old dinosaur Buryis in Greater Manchester it thats the way it is.

Bury Has lots in common with Morcambe, Preston etc. There are quite a few people who are related to those from these areas. I am more likely to go for a meal or go shopping in these towns than anywhere in manchester. (little "m") We usually go to Blackpool or the freeport at Fleetwood if the things we want aren't available in our local shops. In fact I would prefer to visit Yorkshire than go down there. I only go into the concrete wasteland when I am paid to do so & try to avoid it then. If we knock down all the houses that have been built by or for Manchester people I don't think we would have as much flooding as we are now. Also, I am not a weirdo or a dinosaur. No need to be personal.