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8:55am Tuesday 29th January 2008
Nearly 50 jobs are to go at an engineering company that makes components for car exhausts.
Klarius Group, based in Railway Road, Adlington, is to lay off 48 of the 76-strong workforce at its WST Engineering plant.
Talks are being held with union representatives. The job cuts are being blamed on cheap imports.
King Eric, says...
9:32am Tue 29 Jan 08
Andrew, Bury says...
10:08am Tue 29 Jan 08
gabon, bury says...
12:04pm Tue 29 Jan 08
tom3465, Farnworth says...
12:10pm Tue 29 Jan 08
gabon, bury says...
12:14pm Tue 29 Jan 08
Andrew, Bury says...
12:14pm Tue 29 Jan 08
gabon, bury says...
12:19pm Tue 29 Jan 08
gabon, bury says...
12:23pm Tue 29 Jan 08
Andrew, Bury says...
12:32pm Tue 29 Jan 08
Lollipop, Muddy Duct says...
12:42pm Tue 29 Jan 08
Andrew wrote:Andrew cars do sometimes need replacement exhausts.
It's all very well blaming the government but what of individual responsibility? People aren't willing to pay significantly more for UK produced goods, buy imported goods by the container load and yet moan that things are made abroad. Patriotic until it comes to dipping hands in pockets. Can't have it both ways. I'm sorry that these people have lost their jobs but to be honest surprised that we even had a company producing exhaust components given we have no car industry - unless they were supplying one of the assembly plants
gabon, bury says...
12:44pm Tue 29 Jan 08
Lollipop, Muddy Duct says...
12:46pm Tue 29 Jan 08
Tubby Scruff, says...
1:00pm Tue 29 Jan 08
Andrew, Bury says...
1:13pm Tue 29 Jan 08
Lollipop wrote:Good point!!
Andrew wrote: It's all very well blaming the government but what of individual responsibility? People aren't willing to pay significantly more for UK produced goods, buy imported goods by the container load and yet moan that things are made abroad. Patriotic until it comes to dipping hands in pockets. Can't have it both ways. I'm sorry that these people have lost their jobs but to be honest surprised that we even had a company producing exhaust components given we have no car industry - unless they were supplying one of the assembly plantsAndrew cars do sometimes need replacement exhausts.
Andrew, Bury says...
1:16pm Tue 29 Jan 08
Tubby Scruff, says...
1:24pm Tue 29 Jan 08
Andrew, Bury says...
1:35pm Tue 29 Jan 08
King Eric, says...
1:35pm Tue 29 Jan 08
Erica, the man with a dodgy toupee, I'm surprised you post anything after being exposed as a fraud and a phoney by Sarah Jones.
Tubby Scruff, says...
1:39pm Tue 29 Jan 08
King Eric, says...
1:43pm Tue 29 Jan 08
You mean the club full of pretentious unsophisticated w*nkers and rapist sportsmen ? Or Essential or Manto ?
Tubby Scruff, says...
1:50pm Tue 29 Jan 08
King Eric, says...
2:01pm Tue 29 Jan 08
david partington, says...
2:06pm Tue 29 Jan 08
Andrew wrote:Andrew,
It's all very well blaming the government but what of individual responsibility? People aren't willing to pay significantly more for UK produced goods, buy imported goods by the container load and yet moan that things are made abroad. Patriotic until it comes to dipping hands in pockets. Can't have it both ways. I'm sorry that these people have lost their jobs but to be honest surprised that we even had a company producing exhaust components given we have no car industry - unless they were supplying one of the assembly plants
Tubby Scruff, says...
2:11pm Tue 29 Jan 08
spice, bolton says...
3:17pm Tue 29 Jan 08
chas, suffolk says...
3:23pm Tue 29 Jan 08
john, bolton says...
3:40pm Tue 29 Jan 08
Lollipop, Muddy Duct says...
4:05pm Tue 29 Jan 08
john wrote:Try telling that to the truck drivers who are based down south. They'll tell you that truckers from the EU are under cutting them due to the fact they buy cheaper fuel and are not subject to our road tax.
A lot of ( probably most) money associated with imports is tied up with the transport, distribution and selling of those items. So when you buy that Chinese made widget you are keeping an awful lot of British people employed. So relax.
chas, suffolk says...
4:10pm Tue 29 Jan 08
Sun Tzu, says...
5:10pm Tue 29 Jan 08
Rocky, Bowton says...
6:02pm Tue 29 Jan 08
Andrew wrote:100% of the computers we use are built in the far east.
That's a British computer you're using to comment on is it Tubbs?
This is a British owned newspaper you are contributing too?
Rocky, Bowton says...
6:02pm Tue 29 Jan 08
Andrew wrote:No they USED to Mr Know nothing
Unless something's changed Evesham design, build and support their products in the UK
Rocky, Bowton says...
6:03pm Tue 29 Jan 08
tom3465 wrote:Charles Babbage to be precise
no but the computer was first invented in this country what tubby is saying do more to keep work in the uk rather than ship it all abroad just look at the energy industry now its all been sold to foreign countries we move onto cleaner more efficient nuclear power stations in ten years time until then we pay through the nose to foreigners who dont give a dump for the customers in this country.soon we will have to re-employ people into engineering as the stuff from foreigners will become to costly for companies in this country to afford.left or right wing there is never such a thing as FREE trade theres a price to be paid by all.
Rocky, Bowton says...
6:05pm Tue 29 Jan 08
King Eric wrote:The only class you have is that from your crossbreed of kids.
You mean the club full of pretentious unsophisticated w*nkers and rapist sportsmen ? Or Essential or Manto ?
No.
Quite clear that all your money can't get you into the places for interesting, trendy bods like Le Roi.
A lesson here for all of us.
Style is temporary, class is permanent.
Toodle Pip
Rocky, Bowton says...
6:07pm Tue 29 Jan 08
Tubby Scruff wrote:Tubby what have I missed..
The computer was invented in Manchester..but, I don't think it's possible to purchase a UK built system using UK components ? Correct me if I'm wrong.
Erica, the man with a dodgy toupee, I'm surprised you post anything after being exposed as a fraud and a phoney by Sarah Jones.
I'll tell you something about a lot of imported goods, many HAVE to be finished to standard over here. If instead of snuggling up, why doesn't Brown raise import duties on some goods to protect what's left of our industry ?
You cant blame everything on Thatcher, Labour have had 11 years in which they've decimated what was left.Expensive red tape is through the roof, elf and safety is prohibitive, tax, NI contributions, Corporation Tax all contribute and if you believe the inflation lies.
Unions..how many men to change a light bulb..at GEC in the 70's it was 6. Should I go on ?
It is in 25-30 years time you should be looking not now, though Andrew and Erica, cant see past today so how can you expect any sense ?
If it is truly made in England and is quality, yes I'll support it, though I do have a preference for German made as it lasts a lifetime and have always saved to buy the best, it's cheaper in the long term.
Rocky, Bowton says...
6:11pm Tue 29 Jan 08
King Eric wrote:NQ is that New Queer?
It's one of the bars I go in on my NQ crawls, alongside Trof, Odd, Rodeo...I like a mix of bar cultures.
You've obviously never been near it as its name is Walrus.
I was also providing a review as a favour for a friend working on a new listings mag for Manchester......
Andrew, Bury says...
6:44pm Tue 29 Jan 08
Rocky wrote:My point being that we rely on cheap imported goods and readily buy cheap imported goods. I did point out that unless something's changed Evesham made PCs here. So something has changed. Well whoopy dio Mr Cheap Insult.
Andrew wrote: That's a British computer you're using to comment on is it Tubbs? This is a British owned newspaper you are contributing too?100% of the computers we use are built in the far east. Only "Some" of the processors come from Ireland. I see again Andrew spouting things you know nothing about.
Sun Tzu, says...
6:47pm Tue 29 Jan 08
gabon, bury says...
6:49pm Tue 29 Jan 08
Sun Tzu, says...
7:14pm Tue 29 Jan 08
Sun Tzu wrote:Andrew won't answer this question.
Andrew - Are you in favour of globalisation?
Rocky, Bowton says...
7:14pm Tue 29 Jan 08
Sun Tzu wrote:He wont answer sun because he wont be sure if it is the right one.
Andrew - Are you in favour of globalisation?
Tubby Scruff, says...
7:15pm Tue 29 Jan 08
Go comment on a British owned site and make your own stand against globalisation.
Sun Tzu, says...
7:20pm Tue 29 Jan 08
Rocky wrote:He won't because he can't without accusation of hypocrisy.
Sun Tzu wrote:He wont answer sun because he wont be sure if it is the right one.
Andrew - Are you in favour of globalisation?
Andrew, Bury says...
7:28pm Tue 29 Jan 08
Sun Tzu wrote:No, but I believe in fair, international trade. Whilst we operate in a globalised economy I'm not hypocritical enough to see that with the negatives come positives. Others seem to fail, or are unwilling, to understand how they benefit from the relative cheapness and convenience of imported goods. how many people eat seasonal foods these days? Very, very few because they can buy Spanish tomatoes, Israeli strawberries etc in winter. So, if anyone's a hypocrite.....
Andrew - Are you in favour of globalisation?
Andrew, Bury says...
7:30pm Tue 29 Jan 08
Tubby Scruff wrote:No, I mean a British owned news site, not a the rest home for the feeble minded far right. I'm sure you can see the point I'm making.
Go comment on a British owned site and make your own stand against globalisation.Aha, you mean such as the BNP site ? There, I've said it for you, no doubt you'll feel so much better ? Grow up you tedious irritant,open your eyes to what's going on !
Andrew, Bury says...
7:32pm Tue 29 Jan 08
gabon wrote:More quality comments of the playground insult variety. Globalisation too long a word for you?
eric andrew bury ragreader zimmy they are like laxatives, They irritate the cr-- out of you, Either that or lava lamps good to look at but not very bright
Andrew, Bury says...
7:33pm Tue 29 Jan 08
Andrew wrote:Fail to see that should read.
Sun Tzu wrote: Andrew - Are you in favour of globalisation?No, but I believe in fair, international trade. Whilst we operate in a globalised economy I'm not hypocritical enough to see that with the negatives come positives. Others seem to fail, or are unwilling, to understand how they benefit from the relative cheapness and convenience of imported goods. how many people eat seasonal foods these days? Very, very few because they can buy Spanish tomatoes, Israeli strawberries etc in winter. So, if anyone's a hypocrite.....
Sun Tzu, says...
7:33pm Tue 29 Jan 08
Andrew, Bury says...
7:35pm Tue 29 Jan 08
Sun Tzu wrote:And he's off, back on his favoured, laboured far right rant. Fair international trade is what I said.
The international labour market is a large part of globalisation Andrew. Have you changed your stance on unfettered immigration?
Sun Tzu, says...
7:36pm Tue 29 Jan 08
Andrew wrote:Good night hypocrit.
Sun Tzu wrote:And he's off, back on his favoured, laboured far right rant. Fair international trade is what I said.
The international labour market is a large part of globalisation Andrew. Have you changed your stance on unfettered immigration?
Night night Mein Sun. Don't have nightmares about those brown people will you.
Sun Tzu, says...
7:44pm Tue 29 Jan 08
Tubby Scruff, says...
10:12pm Tue 29 Jan 08
Rocky, Bowton says...
11:32pm Tue 29 Jan 08
King Eric, says...
12:04am Wed 30 Jan 08
Tubby Scruff, says...
7:59am Wed 30 Jan 08
The listings mag is the most famous in the UK, looking at a poss Manc edition.
chas, suffolk says...
8:00am Wed 30 Jan 08
King Eric, says...
8:02am Wed 30 Jan 08
Tubby Scruff, says...
8:11am Wed 30 Jan 08
looking at a poss Manc edition.
King Eric, says...
8:51am Wed 30 Jan 08
Tubby Scruff, says...
8:58am Wed 30 Jan 08
Tubby Scruff, says...
9:01am Wed 30 Jan 08
They are looking at a regular Manchester edition
King Eric, says...
9:11am Wed 30 Jan 08
Tubby Scruff, says...
9:19am Wed 30 Jan 08
Rocky, Bowton says...
9:22am Wed 30 Jan 08
King Eric wrote:So your a press officer for the labour party?
You really show yourself up, they did an edition for the Lab Party conference.
It's getting boring proving you wrong.
King Eric, says...
9:28am Wed 30 Jan 08
I see, so you know the Editor ? Bill ? I do.
Anyway how has Time Out manifested it's self from.
"The listings mag is the most famous in the UK".
Kindly explain.
Tubby Scruff, says...
9:33am Wed 30 Jan 08
Andrew, Bury says...
9:34am Wed 30 Jan 08
King Eric wrote:They have an online edition. They were supposed to launch a Manc edition last year and ballsed up spectacularly. If they think that the way to woo Mancunians is to exploit a party conference, pledge a spring launch, scrap in and launch a stupidly low budget online alternative, well.....
You are embarrassing yourself now with your lack of knowledge and your misguided blatherings. 1 It's Time Out 2 They have alreedy done a Manchester edition for the Lab conference 3 They are looking at a regular Manchester edition I hope your staff are reading this so they can see what a know nothing you are.
King Eric, says...
9:38am Wed 30 Jan 08
No no no.
The question is.
"How has Time Out manifested it's self from.
"The listings mag is the most famous in the UK".
Explain please.
Tubby Scruff, says...
9:45am Wed 30 Jan 08
Rocky, Bowton says...
9:47am Wed 30 Jan 08
Andrew wrote:So you read socialist worker then?
King Eric wrote:They have an online edition. They were supposed to launch a Manc edition last year and ballsed up spectacularly. If they think that the way to woo Mancunians is to exploit a party conference, pledge a spring launch, scrap in and launch a stupidly low budget online alternative, well.....
You are embarrassing yourself now with your lack of knowledge and your misguided blatherings. 1 It's Time Out 2 They have alreedy done a Manchester edition for the Lab conference 3 They are looking at a regular Manchester edition I hope your staff are reading this so they can see what a know nothing you are.
Tubby,have to laugh at people who regard the Daily Mail as a reliable source on anything other than the vaccouus nature of the Beckhams. More fine work - I suppose as they are clearly not experts in the field of race and immigration you can, by Sun's logic, trust them though.
King Eric, says...
9:51am Wed 30 Jan 08
"The Listings Mag" is the only one that is a figment of your imagination, hence the smoke and mirrors to distract attention away.
Tubby Scruff, says...
9:57am Wed 30 Jan 08
King Eric, says...
10:09am Wed 30 Jan 08
Posted by: Tubby Scruff on 9:01am today
They are looking at a regular Manchester edition
Again a lie. It already exists.
Tubby Scruff, says...
10:14am Wed 30 Jan 08
King Eric, says...
10:28am Wed 30 Jan 08
Andrew, Bury says...
3:30pm Wed 30 Jan 08
Rocky wrote:No.
Andrew wrote:So you read socialist worker then?King Eric wrote: You are embarrassing yourself now with your lack of knowledge and your misguided blatherings. 1 It's Time Out 2 They have alreedy done a Manchester edition for the Lab conference 3 They are looking at a regular Manchester edition I hope your staff are reading this so they can see what a know nothing you are.They have an online edition. They were supposed to launch a Manc edition last year and ballsed up spectacularly. If they think that the way to woo Mancunians is to exploit a party conference, pledge a spring launch, scrap in and launch a stupidly low budget online alternative, well..... Tubby,have to laugh at people who regard the Daily Mail as a reliable source on anything other than the vaccouus nature of the Beckhams. More fine work - I suppose as they are clearly not experts in the field of race and immigration you can, by Sun's logic, trust them though.
Nigel McFarlane, Bolton says...
3:46pm Wed 30 Jan 08
Time Out is looking at launching a regular paper magazine
Zimmy, Bolton says...
4:35pm Wed 30 Jan 08
Andrew, Bury says...
5:39pm Wed 30 Jan 08
Nigel McFarlane wrote:Down the pan. They will have really hacked off potential advertisers and they're paying online contributors buttons by the looks.
Time Out is looking at launching a regular paper magazineBut to be fair Tony Elliott has been 'looking' at this hard copy edition for nearly a year now. He first confirmed an October 07 launch in March 07. Since then we have seen Crains announced, recruiting and up and running by December. As Mr Elliott is worth £93m, I'm sure he could stump up some funds for six months if he really wanted to, but it seems that the backers he was looking for do not share his optimism. I think we all know where this is going...
Rocky, Bowton says...
9:43pm Wed 30 Jan 08
Paul B, Worsley says...
10:25pm Thu 31 Jan 08
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Tubby Scruff, says...
9:28am Tue 29 Jan 08