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Smoking ruined my life
10:48am Friday 8th February 2008
Comments (90)A FORMER Bolton financial adviser forced into retirement by a crippling illness caused by smoking has told how the habit has destroyed his life.
Keith Orton, who suffers from Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease (COPD), spoke out after Coronation Street actress Liz Dawn, described the way a similar condition led to her leaving the famous cobbles.
Gasping for breath and incapable of walking for more than a few yards, Dawn - who played Vera Duckworth - was forced to quit because of emphysema, a disease she blames on her years as a smoker.
In a moving documentary, the 68-year-old actress, who smoked for more than 50 years, begged youngsters to stub it out before it becomes too late.
She said: "I used to get to the dressing room, and I'd be really breathless before I did anything.
"When you're addicted to smoking, it's very hard to stop. I couldn't answer the phone without lighting up.
"Try your best to stop smoking and especially those youngsters coming up now who are just starting to smoke. I want them to really try to not get addicted to tobacco because it's a killer."
Mr Orton welcomed the actress's bravery in coming forward to raise awareness of the devastating disease.
The 61-year-old from Breightmet, who calculates he has smoked 330,000 cigarettes since he took up the habit as a teenager, was diagnosed with Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease in 1998. Just 12 months later, he was forced to retire and can only walk a few steps before he struggles for breath.
He is hooked up to oxygen for several hours every day and knows a single blast of cold air this winter could kill him.
Mr Orton, who smoked up to 40 cigarettes a day and started when he was 14, said: "Sometimes I go outside, get a gasp of cold air and I feel everything shut down. I know that this could kill me if I can't get things started again.
"It's so frustrating watching my wife, Joyce, do jobs I used to be able to manage without thinking about, but I am incapable now.
"Making a cup of coffee becomes a major task because I have to walk across the living room and into the kitchen, which leaves me completely breathless."
Since his diagnosis, the grandfather of two has gradually lost nearly all his mobility and relies on a motorised scooter when he leaves his home.
Mr Orton became a founding member of the Bolton Breathe Easy Group, which has recently changed its name to the Bolton Respiratory Support Group.
He said: "When I see teenagers smoking, I'm tempted to tell them: That was me 25 years ago'. You don't ever believe it will happen to you. If I could turn the clock back, I would never have smoked that first cigarette."
How you can quit smoking
- For local stop smoking service, call 01204 462345. Bolton Stop Smoking Service runs drop-in groups as well as one-to-one sessions.
- A free national service is available to people hoping to quit smoking, or those who have already stubbed it out. The helpline is open from 7am to 11pm, seven days a week. The number is 0800 169 0 169.
- QUIT is a charity whose aim is to save lives by helping smokers to stop. Smokers can call 0800 00 22 00.
- The British Heart Foundation also offers help to smokers hoping to quit and can be reached on 0800 1691900.
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WUMPKINS, bolton says...
11:03am Fri 8 Feb 08
"Try your best to stop smoking and especially those youngsters coming up now who are just starting to smoke. I want them to really try to not get addicted to tobacco because it's a killer
WUMPKINS, bolton says...
11:05am Fri 8 Feb 08
"Try your best to stop smoking and especially those youngsters coming up now who are just starting to smoke. I want them to really try to not get addicted to tobacco because it's a killer
donmarg, devon says...
11:09am Fri 8 Feb 08
This guy is one of unlucky ones,
Cant be pleasant for him but good luck if you can pack in smoking,
This goverment will have to fnd something else to tax,
boris, west sussex says...
11:11am Fri 8 Feb 08
mrfusion, Notlob says...
11:12am Fri 8 Feb 08
Goodluck to those who are trying to quit smoking also.
Andrew, Bury says...
11:54am Fri 8 Feb 08
donmarg wrote:Hmm. It may "affect people in different ways" but surely no denying it's a high risk hobby?
I had a friend who smoked and drank every day lived till he was 89 hardly had a days illness it effects people in different ways, This guy is one of unlucky ones, Cant be pleasant for him but good luck if you can pack in smoking, This goverment will have to fnd something else to tax,
boris, west sussex says...
11:59am Fri 8 Feb 08
Andrew, Bury wrote
Hmm. It may "affect people in different ways" but surely no denying it's a high risk hobby?
What causes COPD?
Smoking is the cause in the vast majority of cases. There is no doubt about this. The lining of the airways becomes inflamed and damaged by smoking. About 3 in 20 one-pack-per-day smokers, and 1 in 4 two-pack-per-day smokers develop COPD if they continue to smoke. Air pollution and polluted work conditions may cause some cases, or make the disease worse. However, people who have never smoked rarely develop COPD.
It would appear 25% risk, for a heavy smoker.
Source
http://www.patient.c
o.uk/showdoc/2306870
5/
RagReader, Horwich says...
12:01pm Fri 8 Feb 08
boris wrote:What point are you trying to make?
Andrew, Bury wroteHmm. It may "affect people in different ways" but surely no denying it's a high risk hobby?What causes COPD? Smoking is the cause in the vast majority of cases. There is no doubt about this. The lining of the airways becomes inflamed and damaged by smoking. About 3 in 20 one-pack-per-day smokers, and 1 in 4 two-pack-per-day smokers develop COPD if they continue to smoke. Air pollution and polluted work conditions may cause some cases, or make the disease worse. However, people who have never smoked rarely develop COPD. It would appear 25% risk, for a heavy smoker. Source http://www.patient.c o.uk/showdoc/2306870 5/
chas, suffolk says...
12:02pm Fri 8 Feb 08
boris, west sussex says...
12:02pm Fri 8 Feb 08
Work it out idiot.
boris, west sussex says...
12:05pm Fri 8 Feb 08
Andrew said
Hmm. It may "affect people in different ways" but surely no denying it's a high risk hobby?
I said
It would appear 25% risk, for a heavy smoker.
Understand.
Andrew, Bury says...
12:09pm Fri 8 Feb 08
chas wrote:Ah, that's right through science at us :-)
donmarg. I agree 100%. I know many of non-smokers who died much younger than this and many other non-smokers who suffer from serious illnesses.
Are you seriously uimplying that smoking is not related to a range of lung and throat conditions? That smoking doesn't significantly increase the risk of contracting such diseases? I'm not particularly anti-smoking by the way - if people want to take risks with their own health, that's their choice.
Hey don, you seen gabon about recently?
boris, west sussex says...
12:13pm Fri 8 Feb 08
boris, west sussex says...
12:15pm Fri 8 Feb 08
chas, suffolk says...
12:17pm Fri 8 Feb 08
Andrew, Bury says...
12:19pm Fri 8 Feb 08
boris wrote:No, as I said if people want to risk their own health. Prohibtion is proven failure and besides the genie is well and truly out of the bottle. Without reopening the can of worms that is the ban debate, it's when others' health is compromised that I draw the line. Tobacco promotion is another contentious one too.
The question is Andrew, do we ban it outright, and everything else with risk???
I see no problem with encouraging people to kick the habit either.
boris, west sussex says...
12:21pm Fri 8 Feb 08
How many people will protect themselves from the sun this summer??? The risk of skin cancer is proven is it not?? yet people lay there somtimes hours on end. Stupid aren't they???? Sunbeds proven cancer risk, why aren't they banned????
Andrew, Bury says...
12:23pm Fri 8 Feb 08
chas wrote:But your previous post implied that smoking did not cause early death in many smokers because you drew a fallacious parallel with non-smokers who die young. Smoking is implicated in so many lung, heart and throat illnesses and is widely regarded as being a mjor contributor to early deaths. By experts of course ;-)
Andrew. I am not saying that there are no risks with smoking. There are and there are many other causes of ill health.
chas, suffolk says...
12:23pm Fri 8 Feb 08
I agree with you. Prohibition does not work and can have the opposite effect. Encouragement is probably more effective.
Andrew, Bury says...
12:24pm Fri 8 Feb 08
boris wrote:Totally fair point Boris. I believe they are now looking at better regulation of the sunbed industry and quite right too.
Andrew Bury How many people will protect themselves from the sun this summer??? The risk of skin cancer is proven is it not?? yet people lay there somtimes hours on end. Stupid aren't they???? Sunbeds proven cancer risk, why aren't they banned????
Andrew, Bury says...
12:25pm Fri 8 Feb 08
boris, west sussex says...
12:25pm Fri 8 Feb 08
chas, suffolk says...
12:28pm Fri 8 Feb 08
parishner, bolton says...
12:30pm Fri 8 Feb 08
YS WISE AFTER THE EVENT..
chas, suffolk says...
12:31pm Fri 8 Feb 08
parishner, bolton says...
12:34pm Fri 8 Feb 08
boris, west sussex says...
12:34pm Fri 8 Feb 08
parishner, bolton says...
12:36pm Fri 8 Feb 08
boris wrote:SINCE THE END OF BLINDS,ITS CURTAINS FOR US ALL<)
I think the govt will have a job banning wasps, they do kill some people.
chas, suffolk says...
12:37pm Fri 8 Feb 08
THIS GUY LOOKS LIKE HE HAS HAD IS FAIR SHARE OF,BOOZE AS WELL...R WELL YOUVE GOT DO SOMETHINGIs there a translator in the house?
Lord Lucan, Somewhere says...
12:38pm Fri 8 Feb 08
Similar issues with junk food and alcohol of course.
boris, west sussex says...
12:43pm Fri 8 Feb 08
So we have a substance that can be legally purchased that is known to have fatal consequences in certain buyers. Why is it not banned? Answer: because of the tax and duty levied on it. All obscured under a freedom of choice banner of course.
Similar issues with junk food and alcohol of course.
How about Boxing???
Andrew, Bury says...
12:44pm Fri 8 Feb 08
chas wrote:Who's calling for a total ban on tobacco sales? No-one.
Horizon stated that alcohol was a far more serious drug and if it was introduced today, it would be classified as a class A drug. Ban Alcohol.
I agree though that our whole approach to drugs is illogical.
boris, west sussex says...
12:45pm Fri 8 Feb 08
Who's calling for a total ban on tobacco sales?
Answer Erica and Rugrat
chas, suffolk says...
12:48pm Fri 8 Feb 08
boris, west sussex says...
12:52pm Fri 8 Feb 08
We have never said there is no risk, the likes of Rugrat want nothing short of an outright ban, and no choice. This is why Rugrat loves Erica so much.
RagReader, Horwich says...
12:53pm Fri 8 Feb 08
boris wrote:Can you prove that to be true?
Ragreader wroteI've reported OldBoltonian's post, I hope other people have done the same.What a surprise. Yet never reports Zimmy or Erica posts.
Stick to the story, don't ruin this debate.
For future reference - I answered because you didn't use a childish nickname.
A FORMER Bolton financial adviser forced into retirement by a crippling illness caused by smoking has told how the habit has destroyed his life.
Keith Orton, who suffers from Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease (COPD), spoke out after Coronation Street actress Liz Dawn, described the way a similar condition led to her leaving the famous cobbles.
Gasping for breath and incapable of walking for more than a few yards, Dawn - who played Vera Duckworth - was forced to quit because of emphysema, a disease she blames on her years as a smoker.
In a moving documentary, the 68-year-old actress, who smoked for more than 50 years, begged youngsters to stub it out before it becomes too late.
She said: "I used to get to the dressing room, and I'd be really breathless before I did anything.
"When you're addicted to smoking, it's very hard to stop. I couldn't answer the phone without lighting up.
advertisement"Try your best to stop smoking and especially those youngsters coming up now who are just starting to smoke. I want them to really try to not get addicted to tobacco because it's a killer."
Mr Orton welcomed the actress's bravery in coming forward to raise awareness of the devastating disease.
MOVING: Coronation Street actress Liz Dawn appealed to children not to start smoking
The 61-year-old from Breightmet, who calculates he has smoked 330,000 cigarettes since he took up the habit as a teenager, was diagnosed with Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease in 1998. Just 12 months later, he was forced to retire and can only walk a few steps before he struggles for breath.
He is hooked up to oxygen for several hours every day and knows a single blast of cold air this winter could kill him.
Mr Orton, who smoked up to 40 cigarettes a day and started when he was 14, said: "Sometimes I go outside, get a gasp of cold air and I feel everything shut down. I know that this could kill me if I can't get things started again.
"It's so frustrating watching my wife, Joyce, do jobs I used to be able to manage without thinking about, but I am incapable now.
"Making a cup of coffee becomes a major task because I have to walk across the living room and into the kitchen, which leaves me completely breathless."
Since his diagnosis, the grandfather of two has gradually lost nearly all his mobility and relies on a motorised scooter when he leaves his home.
Mr Orton became a founding member of the Bolton Breathe Easy Group, which has recently changed its name to the Bolton Respiratory Support Group.
He said: "When I see teenagers smoking, I'm tempted to tell them: That was me 25 years ago'. You don't ever believe it will happen to you. If I could turn the clock back, I would never have smoked that first cigarette."
chas, suffolk says...
12:56pm Fri 8 Feb 08
The Nazi state must get tougher. They have got to ban EVERYTHING that is a danger to our health.
Andrew, Bury says...
12:57pm Fri 8 Feb 08
boris wrote:Not on this thread. Presume you have some historical knowledge.
Andrew Bury wroteWho's calling for a total ban on tobacco sales?Answer Erica and Rugrat
boris, west sussex says...
12:57pm Fri 8 Feb 08
chas, suffolk says...
1:01pm Fri 8 Feb 08
boris, west sussex says...
1:05pm Fri 8 Feb 08
chas, suffolk says...
1:09pm Fri 8 Feb 08
RagReader, Horwich says...
1:10pm Fri 8 Feb 08
boris wrote:If you find the story pointless why did you comment in the first place?
What is the point of the story?? If another boxer dies this year, will it stop people boxing??? If there is a death in formula 1, will it stop people racing?? If there is another death on Everest will it stop future climbers?? and so on and so on.
boris, west sussex says...
1:15pm Fri 8 Feb 08
If you find the story pointless why did you comment in the first place?
To agree there is added risk if you smoke of getting Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease. Why do you comment, you,ve said nothing about the story, all you've done is report people and argue.
emma, bolton says...
1:25pm Fri 8 Feb 08
chas wrote:Lol chas!
Parishners idea of big words is to type in capitals.
Poor guy when he started smoking,it was probably advertised all over the show.
OB's comment is terribly insensitive, by the time the findings on how bad smoking is for you came out, the damage to this guys lungs would of already been done.
BTW before you all start, ive give up the cannabis. 5 days without now.
boris, west sussex says...
1:26pm Fri 8 Feb 08
Your contribution so far
What point are you trying to make?
I've reported OldBoltonian's post, I hope other people have done the same.
Can you prove that to be true?
Stick to the story, don't ruin this debate.
If you find the story pointless why did you comment in the first place?
chas, suffolk says...
1:29pm Fri 8 Feb 08
donmarg, devon says...
1:45pm Fri 8 Feb 08
Not a smoker myself but if others want to its up to them keeps my taxes down well hope it does,
Like chas said people die of cancer and never smoked i think its all a grey area but yes it cant help can it,
donmarg, devon says...
1:49pm Fri 8 Feb 08
We did read it no need to print it out again,
You some sort of capped crusader
boris, west sussex says...
1:50pm Fri 8 Feb 08
OldBoltonian, says...
1:50pm Fri 8 Feb 08
boris, west sussex says...
1:54pm Fri 8 Feb 08
The person who reported you is a fellow non smoker, Ragreader.
Sun Tzu, says...
1:54pm Fri 8 Feb 08
boris wrote:Andrew has tried his best to ban the Sun but it has proved to strong for him. He now prefers to stay away from it's burning rays and will usually run and hide when the Sun makes an appearance.
Andrew Bury
How many people will protect themselves from the sun this summer??? The risk of skin cancer is proven is it not?? yet people lay there somtimes hours on end. Stupid aren't they???? Sunbeds proven cancer risk, why aren't they banned????
chas, suffolk says...
1:57pm Fri 8 Feb 08
Sun Tzu, says...
1:57pm Fri 8 Feb 08
OldBoltonian wrote:You keep at OB. The time is close at hand when people will lose patience with the Andrew's and Fagbreader's of this world.
Another whining weak willed fool weeping after the event. Keep reporting my posts you pathetic halfwits. This man has killed himself because he hadn't the wit to wean himself off a deadly drug. If you want to drown in obsequious sentimentatlity fine, but it never ceases to amaze me that anyone holdign a differnet view is censored because you find my view offensive. Does it occur to you that this sort of uncritical whitewash non-story is just as offensive to those of us who don't smoke and have no sympathy for those who do?
boris, west sussex says...
1:58pm Fri 8 Feb 08
Andrew's gone, must be his thirty minutes.
donmarg, devon says...
2:01pm Fri 8 Feb 08
I used to work with a guy on the building sites he got brown walking passed a light bulb,
Joking but if he took off his shirt within 6 hours he was like a african,
So again its down to the individual and there pigments in the skin
boris, west sussex says...
2:05pm Fri 8 Feb 08
chas, suffolk says...
2:11pm Fri 8 Feb 08
boris, west sussex says...
2:13pm Fri 8 Feb 08
boris. He's probably gone away to think of what he can say on the story.
Yes, if you look back on other stories Rugrat never seems to address the story, just argues and sulks.
donmarg, devon says...
2:19pm Fri 8 Feb 08
boris, west sussex says...
2:21pm Fri 8 Feb 08
He is from Horwich dont forget probably all that smoke from the old RMI works damaged his brain ???
What brain????
donmarg, devon says...
2:25pm Fri 8 Feb 08
Andrew, Bury says...
2:51pm Fri 8 Feb 08
donmarg wrote:A "grey area"
Its like everything Andrew some people do things all there lives and never suffer others try it once and it kills them, Not a smoker myself but if others want to its up to them keeps my taxes down well hope it does, Like chas said people die of cancer and never smoked i think its all a grey area but yes it cant help can it,
LOL. Well I would if it weren't so serious.
Sun, don't flatter yourself. What will happen when "people lose patienbce" though?
funny I thought people had lost patience with the insult throwers, the infantile and the racists. Plenty commented to that effect and clearly a number reported to Mr. Savage.
Don how's gabon?
Shame, this was quite a reasoned debate for a while.
boris, west sussex says...
2:56pm Fri 8 Feb 08
Shame, this was quite a reasoned debate for a while.
Until Rugrat ruined it, like the thread last night. Where are your comments on this story Rugrat???
Andrew, Bury says...
2:59pm Fri 8 Feb 08
Have a nice day.
donmarg, devon says...
3:10pm Fri 8 Feb 08
Grey area how can people die of lung cancer who have never smoked,
Why do they get bowel cancer why do they get any type of cancer these all cant be down to smoking,
Or is it easy to blame smoking
amosc99, Overseas says...
3:13pm Fri 8 Feb 08
Must be a FIRST!!!!!
boris, west sussex says...
3:15pm Fri 8 Feb 08
Is it me or is everyoine, including myself, in agreeance - up to a point????
about what exactly???
amosc99, Overseas says...
3:19pm Fri 8 Feb 08
First time read the news today - been on the Wanderers side of things most of the day!
boris, west sussex says...
3:28pm Fri 8 Feb 08
The Sun is a murderer??
Melanoma in the United States 2007 Estimates
New Cases 59,940
Deaths Per Year 8,110
Ban the Sun.
Zimmy, Bolton says...
3:33pm Fri 8 Feb 08
Posted by: boris, west sussex on 11:11am today
Rational debate yes, no comment while Erica (Zimmy) posts on this subject.
Wrong. Only me.
donmarg, devon says...
3:35pm Fri 8 Feb 08
According to some on here all sun readers are idiots,
Sells most copies every day but then again its the only one that tells the truth
boris, west sussex says...
3:37pm Fri 8 Feb 08
A great article. Let's hope the pro smoking lobby read and best of all LEARN
Learn what???
chas, suffolk says...
3:47pm Fri 8 Feb 08
chas, suffolk says...
3:50pm Fri 8 Feb 08
Is it me or is everyoine, including myself, in agreeance - up to a point????Careful!
Must be a FIRST!!!!!
boris, west sussex says...
3:51pm Fri 8 Feb 08
Erica thinks we need to learn, but as we have already aknowledged the dangers of smoking, what's the fool talking about????
donmarg, devon says...
3:51pm Fri 8 Feb 08
chas, suffolk says...
3:54pm Fri 8 Feb 08
amosc99, Overseas says...
4:08pm Fri 8 Feb 08
chas wrote:I know I've had to have a lie down in the dark - I'm still in shock!
Is it me or is everyoine, including myself, in agreeance - up to a point???? Must be a FIRST!!!!!Careful!
Zimmy, Bolton says...
4:34pm Fri 8 Feb 08
Posted by: chas, suffolk on 3:54pm today
I intend to die happy, not like some who come on here.
do us all a favour and make it soon
RagReader, Horwich says...
4:57pm Fri 8 Feb 08
boris wrote:I did point that out.
OldBoltonian The person who reported you is a fellow non smoker, Ragreader.
To whoever it was asked where I'd gone, can't be bothered scrolling back to see who it was, I've been out, I do have a life.
Boris said earlier'"I never report Zimmy or Erica posts '
He's still not provided the proof and that was over 3 hours ago, he's just done is usual selective cut and paste job.
Zimmy, Bolton says...
5:02pm Fri 8 Feb 08
anyway if he runs away with Eric(a) that will solve a lot of problems
boris, west sussex says...
5:02pm Fri 8 Feb 08
Still you have said nothing about the story, like I said on another thread, you're a waste of space.
boris, west sussex says...
5:06pm Fri 8 Feb 08
Posted by: Zimmy, Bolton on 3:19am today
Ive just come in. Boris I notice you havent denied that you sent Eric(a) a message ?
Zimmy, Bolton says...
6:09pm Fri 8 Feb 08
You should try it.
So did you send the self proclaimed King a mail ??
you cheeky tart
Zimmy, Bolton says...
8:34pm Fri 8 Feb 08
its gay night in Brighton
Wehay
Lord Lucan, Somewhere says...
9:42pm Fri 8 Feb 08
mandy vincent, says...
9:52pm Fri 8 Feb 08
I have a neighbour friend, who was diagnosed last year with lung and liver cancer - they did not know which one was first. The doctor did ask if he every worked with asbestos, diesal was also mentioned. He packed up smoking over 20 years ago, and he is a very moderate drinker. He did have a high risk job, he was a HGV driver for most of his working life, taxi drivers are also high risk for lung problems, breathing in diesal for hours a day is not healthy either.
please do not try and tell us all, that industry has nothing to do with anyone getting problems.
DON'T START: Keith Orton, using his oxygen, says he hates to see teenagers smoking
MOVING: Coronation Street actress Liz Dawn appealed to children not to start smoking
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