Sorry but does SHE have a mobile phone???? NIMBY
Afraid someone has to be offended if we are to use these technologies

i bet the poor lad is scared to death living with mad woman for a mother.

ziggyboo22 wrote:
i bet the poor lad is scared to death living with mad woman for a mother.

haha, I thought the same thing.

If she's so scared of this "Radiation" why doesnt she just bloody move to a house on a main road, next to a landfill site. They're obviously safer for the kid.

Perhaps it gives you a false sense of security listening to the phone operators multi £ million publicity machine. Maybe the truth is too awful to take. Try looking at the Powerwatch and Mast Sanity websites for a dose of reality.

Over 1000 independent studies, linking phone mast electro magnetic radiation with serious ill health including cancer, confirm that phone masts should not be sited within 350 metres of schools or housing. Numerous studies have proved that melatonin, the cancer fighting hormone, is suppressed by this pulsing radiation. That's why the cancer clusters continue to increase in the vicinity of phone masts. Phone operators dismiss such research, alleging that their own studies suggests no health risk. However recently the national press revealed that T-Mobile covered up the damaging results of their own research. The Ecolog Institute, a research organisation which examines the health effects of mobile phones, was commissioned by T-Mobile to investigate the possible health risks of mobile phone masts. The 2003 Ecolog report confirmed:

Given the results of the present epidemiological studies, it can be concluded that electromagnetic fields with frequencies in the mobile telecommunications range do play a role in the development of cancer. This is particularly notable for tumours of the central nervous system.

The idea that unelected bodies (the mobile phone companies) have a right to expose people to the very real harm caused by phone mast electro magnetic radiation, amounts to enrolling the population in a giant biological experiment without their consent. Considering that children, the most vulnerable of all, are included in this experiment, it is shameful that their interests are disregarded so cynically in the pursuit of profit.

John E wrote:
Perhaps it gives you a false sense of security listening to the phone operators multi £ million publicity machine. Maybe the truth is too awful to take. Try looking at the Powerwatch and Mast Sanity websites for a dose of reality. Over 1000 independent studies, linking phone mast electro magnetic radiation with serious ill health including cancer, confirm that phone masts should not be sited within 350 metres of schools or housing. Numerous studies have proved that melatonin, the cancer fighting hormone, is suppressed by this pulsing radiation. That's why the cancer clusters continue to increase in the vicinity of phone masts. Phone operators dismiss such research, alleging that their own studies suggests no health risk. However recently the national press revealed that T-Mobile covered up the damaging results of their own research. The Ecolog Institute, a research organisation which examines the health effects of mobile phones, was commissioned by T-Mobile to investigate the possible health risks of mobile phone masts. The 2003 Ecolog report confirmed: Given the results of the present epidemiological studies, it can be concluded that electromagnetic fields with frequencies in the mobile telecommunications range do play a role in the development of cancer. This is particularly notable for tumours of the central nervous system. The idea that unelected bodies (the mobile phone companies) have a right to expose people to the very real harm caused by phone mast electro magnetic radiation, amounts to enrolling the population in a giant biological experiment without their consent. Considering that children, the most vulnerable of all, are included in this experiment, it is shameful that their interests are disregarded so cynically in the pursuit of profit. One Yes or No question John - do you have a mobile phone?

James, I'm delighted you asked that question. The answer is NO. This is the truth. Having spent the past 10 years researching electro magnetic radiation emissions and the way the phone operators have duped the public, I never have and never will own a mobile phone. Why would I want to increase the risk of a brain tumour by 200%?

John E wrote:
James, I'm delighted you asked that question. The answer is NO. This is the truth. Having spent the past 10 years researching electro magnetic radiation emissions and the way the phone operators have duped the public, I never have and never will own a mobile phone. Why would I want to increase the risk of a brain tumour by 200%?

Fair play John. A lot of people who are anti-this, anti-that are actually hypocritical! I respect the fact that you believe in sometthing enough. Lets face it, mobile phones are a part of life, but we managed for years and years before. I hardly use mine, think it's in a draw somewhere. Dont even use my work phone much, redirect it to a landline!!

John E wrote:
James, I'm delighted you asked that question. The answer is NO. This is the truth. Having spent the past 10 years researching electro magnetic radiation emissions and the way the phone operators have duped the public, I never have and never will own a mobile phone. Why would I want to increase the risk of a brain tumour by 200%?

Do you have Wi-Fi? listen to the radio? watch TV? use a microwave? etc etc etc.

Are you sure that none of the other waves travelling through you head at this very moment are not causing irreversable damage?

I don't believe scientists have proved a link between brain tumors and mobile phones, especially when they don't even know what causes a brain tumour, although you are more likley to get one if your a 70 year old white male who has worked with plastic all his life. If that person had a mobile phone would it still double his chances of getting a brain tumour (could a 70 year old even use a mobile phone, my Mum can't and she's only 59)

I had a mast put near me which triggered me to research the issue quite deeply. I will now not have a mobile phone because of the mountain of evidence (mostly ignored by the press) that demonstrates real links with ill health, DNA damage, and cancer. It a shame I had to put in so much time to find out what should really be being screamed out at everyone who uses a mobile or lives near a mast. So even if she had a mobile, which WUMPKINS arrogantly assumes is the case, there is a good chance it will be going in the rubbish soon. She is certainly not mad. She is one of the few who hasn't been taken in by the multi billion pound PR campaign to discredit the science, promote industry funded 'studies' and 'reassure' the public - unlike ziggyboo22. NIMBY has nothing to do with it. Nobody should be made to risk their children’s lives in this way, no mater what the benefits may be.
The electrosmog detector questioned by the T-Mobile representative (I have one of my own) is specifically tuned to pick up microwave radiation not the longer wavelengths used by radio and television. Also the ICNIRP guidelines that the government has reassuringly said are not being breached are based entirely on heating effects and are thousands of times too lenient when the latest scientific research is taken into account. However financial vested interests will surely triumph once again over truth, science and human lives.

I don't believe scientists have proved a link between brain tumors and mobile phones

Could I possible direct you the mast sanity website www.mastsanity.org where you'll find links to hundreds of peer reviewed studies that will cure you of your ignorance.

For a moment, I thought that I was on the ASH web site. '1,000 studies' etc. I thought that smoking was the cause of all cancers.

Pugwash, I'm delighted that you should mention WiFi, Microwaves, radio and TV as it gives me the opportunity to educate you on this subject.

1. Do I have WiFi. Why would I want a router emitting harmful electro magnetic radiation in my house? (Have only just bought a computer for the home, wired router of course).

2. I see you quote the good old phone operator myth that implies TV and radio waves are the same as mast/Wifi/mobile emissions. WRONG! Traditional radio and TV use a lower part of the spectrum and unmodulated continuous waves. Mobile phones, DECT, phone masts and Wi-Fi use frequencies of the microwave spectrum which are amplitude modulated (pulsed). Many peer reviewed and published studies have found specific harmful effects from the latter type of radiation at levels below the threshold of body heating and below the exposure threshold set by the current guidelines.

3. Yes I do use a microwave. However microwave ovens are encased by metal. With phone masts we are all, in effect, inside the microwave oven.

And Pugwash, if I've suffered irreversable damage it would hardly be a surprise. We are all now wallowing in a toxic soup of electrosmog where 40 years ago there was none. Just because you can't see it doesn't mean it can't harm you. I strongly urge you to look at the Mast Sanity and Powerwatch websites and see how you have been deceived by both the governmwent and the phone operators.

SDensley wrote:

I don't believe scientists have proved a link between brain tumors and mobile phones

Could I possible direct you the mast sanity website www.mastsanity.org where you'll find links to hundreds of peer reviewed studies that will cure you of your ignorance.

You can aslo find many sites that calim David Icke is the son of God, doesn't mean it's true.

Science has not proven what causes brain tumors at all, so would you not agree that it would be highly unlikely to find a direct link to mobile phones. I wonder waht caused them before mobile phones???

You can aslo find many sites that calim David Icke is the son of God, doesn't mean it's true.

Maybe, but you won't find links to peer reviewd published research which says so - what a stupid thing to say!

Ah Pugwash! That's right, ignore the peer reviewed research you have been pointed to and if all else fails resort to insults and David Icke. I smell a phone operator representative!

This lady opposing the mast, far from being crazy, is very sensible as there is now a wealth of evidence that mobile phone masts emit radiation at dangerously high levels giving rise to a higher risk of serious illnesses, such as cancers and neurological diseases. Some of these take many years to manifest, but other symptoms, such as impairment of concentration and sleep disturbance can take effect relatively quickly. The risks are greater for children because their skulls are thinner so the radiation penetrates more deeply and they are likely to suffer exposure for longer over their lifetimes. Placing masts near schools is in contravention of the recommendations of the Stewart Report, which advised the government, but which the government is failing to put into practice.

This is a time bomb which the telecoms industry is trying to obscure, just like the tobacco industry did, and unless the public starts to stand up for our health, we will see a lot of deaths before they eventually have to admit the damage the technology is causing. Many of us are minimising our use of mobile and cordless phones, and removing wifi and other wireless technology so as to reduce our risks, despite the inconvenience, because the health risks are so significant.

What a load of cobblers from you lot,
If you take everything on board these so called experts say you would never get out of bed for fear of being struck down with something,
I think its called the band waggon they all jump on,
Try telling the kids of today get rid of there phone see the reaction,
We will see a lot of deaths knowthefacts says people die every day from many things,
Smoking Drinking Drugs Driving Working there is no end,
You want hitec you live with the consequencies all the moaning wont stop progress from the few who do moan

I'm scared to death. Go near a phone mast, you get cancer. Go near a smoker, you get cancer. Go near traffic fumes, you get cancer. Go in a pub and drink alcohol, you get cancer. I'm frightened to go out now.

don. You beat me to it.

Don, Chas, fine. Drinking, driving, smoking, they are all personal choices. If the individual chooses to indulge in such activities that's their own choice. What choice do children, who are most at risk, or the public have when they are bombarded 24/7 by phone masts/WiFi electro magnetic radiation. None whatsoever.

In case you have missed it the Government have just brought in a smoking ban in public places, yet happily sanction the whole population being irradiated with microwave radiation, despite the damning research. With cancers increasing at an alarming rate during the past 15 years the £10billion a year in tax receipts grabbed by the government from their bosom buddies the phone operators, whilst totally ignoring the health risks is a disgrace

Just think, the quicker they find a cure for cancer the better off we will all be, everyone will live forever then as there will be nothing to kill us off

John. You don't have to drive to inhale traffic fumes. Since the smoking ban, smokers, smoke more at home near their children. Please don't try to frighten us all to death with more scare stories. By the way, I live near to one of those masts and that is the least of my worries.

ha ha Gazz.

There is always something out there that causes us damage if it not phone mast its something else. How did people go on 100s of years ago.

I live near to one of those masts and that is the least of my worries.

You indeed have the right to not care about your own health - even when you have been duly warned by respected scientists. But don't presume that this means other, possible better informed people, should be forced against their will to live with risks that you deem acceptable. I am saddened by your flippant attitude. I assume you also stick your head in the sand regarding global warming.

SDensley. I have heard many stories from 'respected scientists' regarding these masts, passive smoking, traffic fumes, global warming and even aliens landing on earth. I have also heard 'respected scientists' arguing the reverse. Until I see absolute proof, I will remain sceptical on all of them.

chas wrote:
SDensley. I have heard many stories from 'respected scientists' regarding these masts, passive smoking, traffic fumes, global warming and even aliens landing on earth. I have also heard 'respected scientists' arguing the reverse. Until I see absolute proof, I will remain sceptical on all of them.

Where do you think the balance of proof should lie? If 10 scientists say that putting a new chemical (Chem-X) into the water supply will cause deformities in 10% of children while 10 other scientists (some of whom work for the Chem-X company) say that it will not cause such deformities would you say that an appropriate course of action would be to put it into the water supply and wait to see what happens?

SDensley. Have you ever heard of using commonsense?

chas wrote:
SDensley. Have you ever heard of using commonsense?

Exacly my point.

Yobs are a heath hazard can we get rid of them please,
They talk about global warming why do they keep sending all these rockets up looking at the moon what will they find,
A cure for cancer no just some ego trip to say we did it costs billions but wahat the heck its not our money,Top and bottom is its all speculation
what causes what no bugger knows its all guess work you will die sometime so what does it matter the scrotes wont bother.

John E wrote:
Ah Pugwash! That's right, ignore the peer reviewed research you have been pointed to and if all else fails resort to insults and David Icke. I smell a phone operator representative!

I haven't resorted to insults. Where have I resorted to insults?

I was directed to a website that shows some of the research into this area. I can point you at other websites that will directly oppose that resarch from simlarly educated scientists(some backed by mobile phone operators and some not). These websites have been setup to try and convince their audience of a certain view - that's what websites are for. The David Icke commnet is therefore perfectlty valid - someone's opinion and one that they will try and prove by showing reports and evidence, that at the time seems very convincing to person reading the info. Exactly the same

Similarly I'm totally convinced that 9/11 was something to do with the US Government - there's an extreme amount of evidence that seems to prove it on the internet - but I am under no illusion that there will be a similar amount of evidence that proves otherwise. Who knows!!!

Obviously I must be a phone operator representative because my opinion differs from yours. My main job is to log onto local paper websites to try and cover up the truth, yeah right!!!

I log on here to look at local news, as I live in Bolton.

Why do you log on here for?

John E wrote:
Pugwash, I'm delighted that you should mention WiFi, Microwaves, radio and TV as it gives me the opportunity to educate you on this subject. 1. Do I have WiFi. Why would I want a router emitting harmful electro magnetic radiation in my house? (Have only just bought a computer for the home, wired router of course). 2. I see you quote the good old phone operator myth that implies TV and radio waves are the same as mast/Wifi/mobile emissions. WRONG! Traditional radio and TV use a lower part of the spectrum and unmodulated continuous waves. Mobile phones, DECT, phone masts and Wi-Fi use frequencies of the microwave spectrum which are amplitude modulated (pulsed). Many peer reviewed and published studies have found specific harmful effects from the latter type of radiation at levels below the threshold of body heating and below the exposure threshold set by the current guidelines. 3. Yes I do use a microwave. However microwave ovens are encased by metal. With phone masts we are all, in effect, inside the microwave oven. And Pugwash, if I've suffered irreversable damage it would hardly be a surprise. We are all now wallowing in a toxic soup of electrosmog where 40 years ago there was none. Just because you can't see it doesn't mean it can't harm you. I strongly urge you to look at the Mast Sanity and Powerwatch websites and see how you have been deceived by both the governmwent and the phone operators.

1. Have you any idea how a computer works? Perhaps it's emmiting waves that no one has discovered yet that will eventually turn everyones hands into very small ferrets. By the way do your neighbours have WiFi, if so you're screwed.

2. You wrote "I see you quote the good old phone operator myth that implies TV and radio waves are the same as mast/Wifi/mobile emissions. WRONG!" Well in fact I didn't say anything of the sort, I merely asked if you were sure they weren't causing you any harm, well are you? Maybe scientists haven't realised the terrible harm these waves are causing us. Perhaps we should ban them until we can be 100% sure (which will be never by the way!!)

3. See (2)

4. I'm sure the electrosmog will be fine because if you believe the government we'll all be underwater in 5 years time - because we create so much more, so called green house gases, than we did in the industrial revolution.

4. I'm sure the electrosmog will be fine because if you believe the government we'll all be underwater in 5 years time - because we create so much more, so called green house gases, than we did in the industrial revolution.

That could be the next excuse for tax. Once the Global Warming band wagon has stopped, bit like the hole in the ozone, they'll tax us on electrosmog.

I would not buy or live in a home that is located near a phone mast.
The evidence out there is overwhelming and if you think children are not harmed by these emissions take a ride out to Christies and note the age of our young people suffering from brain tumours and other related cancers.
The lady is right to be alarmed and is certainly not crazy.

All caused by phone masts boltonfan you found this out did you for fact or are you an expert like all the others,

Yes I did my research and far from being an "expert" I am just stating my opinion.

I live near to a mast and it is making me very ill. Before it was turned on I was fine a week after it went live I started feeling ill. I can't go in my garden any more. Sat in my house I suffer from awfull tinnitus. I hate mobile phones!

I've heard the same complaints from people who live near pubs, church bells, call to prayers, noisey and fumes from roads, oil seed rape and many more. There are two answers 1. Move or 2. Get the proof and get the government to ban them. This Government is brilliant at banning everything that is a danger to our health.

There is nothing imagined about the sometimes severe symptoms that people are reporting from mobile phone masts.

There are numerous doctors' groups in Germany complaining to their Governments about the ill-health that the nearby phone masts are causing to their patients.

Some doctors have actually measured the radiation exposure level in their patients homes and related the symptoms to the exposure levels.

The Bamberger Appell group of doctors wrote this is their foreword to their appeal to Minister Stoiber:
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OPEN LETTTER TO MINISTER STOIBER:

These reports show that the people for years have been ill due to pulsed high frequency electromagnetic fields, without the treating doctors recognising the cause. For that reason, people who are receiving the high frequency at home or at work have suffered and are suffering and they receive no therapy. The deciding therapy is to end the exposure.

The continually repeated assertion in the media by the Radiological Protection Commission (Strahlenschutzkommi
ssion), that there is no proof for health risks under the present valid limits, has had the consequence that most doctors, (including myself until a year ago) have not drawn a relationship between the many unexplained illness patterns and high frequency radiation. The doctors do not know that at not one single mobile phone base station have investigations into the health-state of the people been carried out. Thus, the evaluation of the Strahlenschutzkommis
sion in 2001 has no scientific basis.

In Oberfranken, we have just evaluated the medical complaints of 356 people who have had long-term exposure in their homes.

The pulsed high frequency electro magnetic fields (from mobile phone base stations, from cable-less DECT telephones, amongst others), led to a new, previously unknown pattern of illnesses with a characteristic symptom complex.
People suffer from one, several or many of the following symptoms: Sleep disturbances, tiredness, disturbance in concentration, forgetfulness, problem with finding words, depressive mood, ear noises, sudden loss of hearing, hearing loss, giddiness, nose bleeds, visual disturbances, frequent infections, sinusitis, joint and limb pains, nerve and soft tissue pains, feeling of numbness, heart rhythm disturbances, increased blood pressure episodes, hormonal disturbances, night-time sweats, nausea.
Even at 10 microwatts per square metre (only 0.06 V/m average) many people are becoming ill.
The symptoms occur in temporal and spatial relationship to exposure. It is no way only a subjective sensitivity disturbance. Disturbances of rhythm, hearing problems, sudden deafness, hearing loss, loss of vision, increased blood pressure, hormonal disturbances, concentration impairments, and others can be proved using scientific objective measures.
Some of the health disturbance disappears immediately the exposure ceases (removal of DECT telephone, temporary moving away from home, permanently moving away, using shielding).
Therefore, the expansion must be stopped immediately. Mobile phone base stations, in whose fields people are exposed to more than 10 microwatts per square metre must be turned off.

DECT telephones must be changed.

Affected people, relatives and doctors must jointly commit themselves and work together with all their energy .

Evaluation of symptoms of 356 people under long time home exposure to high frequency pulsed electromagnetic fields (DECT,telephones, mobile phone base stations) versus the level of the power flux density in microwatts per square metre.

Foreword - Documented Health Damage under the Influence of High Frequency Electromagnetic Fields
Dr. Cornelia Waldmann Selsam, Bamberg.
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Interestingly, the doctors found that symptoms progressively increased as exposure levels measured in the home increased.

The level that the Electrosmog Detector makes a noise is around the 10 microwatts per square metre level that these German doctors were finding medically confirmed health problems started.

The ICNIRP permitted exposure levels are not safe - They are the highest permitted levels in the world and they are rejected by many countries, including Russia and China.

The actual test that the heavily mobile industry biased INCIRP committee used to set the present permitted levels was simply carried out by filling a plastic doll with water, briefly exposing to the radiation and then measuring the temperature rise. Just that - they just did a test on a doll!

No account was taken of the non-thermal effects that have been well demonstrated.

No attempt was made to follow up the health of residents after phone masts were erected. No measurements were actually taken in peoples' homes of the maximum levels of exposures.
This should have all been done.

Note also that the ICNIRP guidelines specifically state that the ICNIRP guidelines are not intended to protect against cancers.

Many people are having their health and quality of life damaged by the radiation from phone masts. The existing radiation levels are set way too high.

The STOA EU Report recommended an immediate reduction in the levels.
The ECOLOG REPORT commissioned by T-Mobile recommended an immediate reduction in levels but they chose to ignore the findings.
The BIOINITIATIVE REPORT 2007 that hs been presented to the EC states very clearly that the present permitted levels are UNSAFE.

It is time that the permitted levels were drastically reduced and that mobile phone masts were banned from being erected within 500 metres of schools and residential areas.

For the health and safety of everyone!

Chas you've got a lot to leaern about this government. They DO know about the harm to the nations health from these radiation emissions, as do the phone operators. Tax receipts from this industry now exceeds that form the oil industry. £10 billion per year in tax receipts is a very good excuse to attempt to deceive the public and cover up the health issue.

This government are firmly in bed with certain organisations such as the phone operators and the pharmaceutical companies, who are both making billions from a govenment intent on allowing both industries to do as they please. The evidence is there but perhaps this is not the place to elaborate.

SDensley wrote:

I don't believe scientists have proved a link between brain tumors and mobile phones

Could I possible direct you the mast sanity website www.mastsanity.org where you'll find links to hundreds of peer reviewed studies that will cure you of your ignorance.

surprise, surprise, the only 'true' evidence relating to H&S and mobile phone masts is on the obviously unbiased 'Mast Sanity' website..... hmmm, very blinkered attitue there john in bristol

me wrote:

SDensley wrote:

I don't believe scientists have proved a link between brain tumors and mobile phones

Could I possible direct you the mast sanity website www.mastsanity.org where you'll find links to hundreds of peer reviewed studies that will cure you of your ignorance.

surprise, surprise, the only 'true' evidence relating to H&S and mobile phone masts is on the obviously unbiased 'Mast Sanity' website..... hmmm, very blinkered attitue there john in bristol

oops, sorry, meant SDensley in london.... the emissions from my wifi router are making me type the wrong thing

The radiation from mobile masts cause mercury vapour from amalgam fillings to increase. People sick near masts are actually suffering from mercury poisoning. EMR makes the mercury vapourize.

To me, home,

But it quotes peer reviewed research, printing word for word what the research says. Fine, you believe the phone operators and their multi £million publicity machine bombarding you with adverts and slick marketing. You believe the government. After all asbestos, CJD, smoking, the thalidomide drug, are all safe as well aren't they? Previous governments have said so. Ignore the thousands of peer reviewed research studies and the evidence presented to you. It's your funeral, literally.

me wrote:

SDensley wrote:

I don't believe scientists have proved a link between brain tumors and mobile phones

Could I possible direct you the mast sanity website www.mastsanity.org where you'll find links to hundreds of peer reviewed studies that will cure you of your ignorance.

surprise, surprise, the only 'true' evidence relating to H&S and mobile phone masts is on the obviously unbiased 'Mast Sanity' website..... hmmm, very blinkered attitue there john in bristol

Talking about biased - Please next time read the comment first. Let me rephrase it so you understand this time. If you would like to see details of hundreds of independent, published, peer reviewed research studies whose experimental results led to the scientific conclusion that the microwave radiation used by mobile phones, masts, wifi, tetra, dect phones and several others causes biological effects including illness, DNA damage and cancer, Mast Sanity has compiled a long list of these studies so you don't need to spend hours or even weeks tracking them all down yourself. This list is available awww.mastsanity.org. Mast Sanity did not do the experiments, pay for the research or influence the outcomes in any way. If however you prefer to track down all the research yourself, no one will be more pleased than me. If however you prefer to sit there and accuse people of bias while refusing to even look at the facts presented then I suggest you stop writing comments about a serious subject.

SDensley wrote:

me wrote:

SDensley wrote:

I don't believe scientists have proved a link between brain tumors and mobile phones

Could I possible direct you the mast sanity website www.mastsanity.org where you'll find links to hundreds of peer reviewed studies that will cure you of your ignorance.

surprise, surprise, the only 'true' evidence relating to H&S and mobile phone masts is on the obviously unbiased 'Mast Sanity' website..... hmmm, very blinkered attitue there john in bristol

Talking about biased - Please next time read the comment first. Let me rephrase it so you understand this time. If you would like to see details of hundreds of independent, published, peer reviewed research studies whose experimental results led to the scientific conclusion that the microwave radiation used by mobile phones, masts, wifi, tetra, dect phones and several others causes biological effects including illness, DNA damage and cancer, Mast Sanity has compiled a long list of these studies so you don't need to spend hours or even weeks tracking them all down yourself. This list is available awww.mastsanity.org. Mast Sanity did not do the experiments, pay for the research or influence the outcomes in any way. If however you prefer to track down all the research yourself, no one will be more pleased than me. If however you prefer to sit there and accuse people of bias while refusing to even look at the facts presented then I suggest you stop writing comments about a serious subject.

does mast sanity ever list the scientific research (peer reviewed) that does not object to mobile phone handset/ mast technology or does it simply give links to negative reports?

me wrote:

SDensley wrote:

me wrote:

SDensley wrote:

I don't believe scientists have proved a link between brain tumors and mobile phones

Could I possible direct you the mast sanity website www.mastsanity.org where you'll find links to hundreds of peer reviewed studies that will cure you of your ignorance.

surprise, surprise, the only 'true' evidence relating to H&S and mobile phone masts is on the obviously unbiased 'Mast Sanity' website..... hmmm, very blinkered attitue there john in bristol

Talking about biased - Please next time read the comment first. Let me rephrase it so you understand this time. If you would like to see details of hundreds of independent, published, peer reviewed research studies whose experimental results led to the scientific conclusion that the microwave radiation used by mobile phones, masts, wifi, tetra, dect phones and several others causes biological effects including illness, DNA damage and cancer, Mast Sanity has compiled a long list of these studies so you don't need to spend hours or even weeks tracking them all down yourself. This list is available awww.mastsanity.org. Mast Sanity did not do the experiments, pay for the research or influence the outcomes in any way. If however you prefer to track down all the research yourself, no one will be more pleased than me. If however you prefer to sit there and accuse people of bias while refusing to even look at the facts presented then I suggest you stop writing comments about a serious subject.

does mast sanity ever list the scientific research (peer reviewed) that does not object to mobile phone handset/ mast technology or does it simply give links to negative reports?

Does the mobile phone industry ever link to these studies? Do they even admit any such research exists?

Dr George Carlo headed a large mobile industry project investigating the incidence of cancers. He found that the radiation from mobile telecommunications was causing cancers.
Whoops - that was not what the mobile industry wanted him to find!
The mobile industry bosses tried to keep the findings quiet. They asked him to change them. He refused even when they offered a large sum of money by the mobile operators.
He left the mobile industry.
You can read all about it in his book - 'Would you put your head in a microwave oven?'

It is not the first time that the mobile industry have tried to influence the publication of research results!

The mobile industry just hate it when research shows just how dangerous their technology actually is. And, how incompetent they are!

To those who say - If worried move house -
It is not always an option to move home to get away from phone masts becaue of financial reasons - and anyway, what guarantee is there that another mast will not be erected 25 metres from your new home in the future?

The mobile industry continuously denies the existance of any research showing adverse health effects of HF-EMR.
Despite evidence that there are indeed problems.

When German doctors have asked mobile operators to temporarily turn off individual phone masts in Germany so that family doctors could carry out checks on residents - blood tests, ECGs, blood pressure monitoring etc - with masts operational and off for the tests -the mobile operators have always refused to do so.
The operators are obviously scared stiff of what the doctors will find!

Thanks Mast Sanity. You do a good job in raising awareness of the research that the mobile industry prefers to suppress.

Readers can find out how having phone masts close to their homes have affected peoples' health in the UK and also in other countries on the
Mast Victims UK website.

http://www.mast-vict
ims.org

The site also contains a useful list of resources and links.

Quote:

BBC Ceefax News
Page 106
Monday 18.02.2008

Cancer link to heavy mobile use

Heavy mobile phone use may be linked to an increased risk of cancer of the salivary glands study suggests.
Researchers looked at 500 Israelis who had developed the condition and compared their mobile usage with 1300 healthy controls.

Those who had used the phone against one side of the head for several hours a day were 50% more likely to have developed a salivary gland tumour.

The research appeared in the American Journal of Epidemiology.

Margaret5 wrote:
Quote: BBC Ceefax News Page 106 Monday 18.02.2008 Cancer link to heavy mobile use Heavy mobile phone use may be linked to an increased risk of cancer of the salivary glands study suggests. Researchers looked at 500 Israelis who had developed the condition and compared their mobile usage with 1300 healthy controls. Those who had used the phone against one side of the head for several hours a day were 50% more likely to have developed a salivary gland tumour. The research appeared in the American Journal of Epidemiology.

i thought this was a debate about how mobile phone masts are were unsafe, not the handsets, as usual objectors seem to get the issues confused

To 'me home on'

I am not in the least confused!

Let me explain for the benefit of the newspaper readers who are less familiar with the technology why I sent that post.

The microwave radiation frequencies used to keep your mobile phones working are the same frequencies that are being blasted onto residents pillows 24/7 from nearby phone masts! Like they were being blasted onto my pillow before I screened my home.

Even if you 'me home on' do not care that the radiation may be doing long term, residents are entitled to be made aware of the research which is out there showing harmful effects. Both for the masts and the phones.

The relevance of the study - The radiation that can cause cancers from operating the mobile phones is the same radiation that can cause cancers in the people living near the phone masts.

Previous phone mast studies found a 3x cancer increase at less than 400 metres from the phone mast and another study found a 4x cancer increase from long term exposure.

Some people also leave their phones on next to their beds. Not a good idea considering the research mentioned in the last posting and also previous research!

Of course, I fully understand that it is embarrasses the mobile industry when these studies are mentioned!


Of course, the mobile industry often uses personal abuse when people challenge them by mentioning research findings that show how unsafe their technology actually is!

To 'me home on'

I am not in the least confused!

Let me explain for the benefit of the newspaper readers who are less familiar with the technology why I sent that post.

The microwave radiation frequencies used to keep your mobile phones working are the same frequencies that are being blasted onto residents pillows 24/7 from nearby phone masts! Like they were being blasted onto my pillow before I screened my home.

Even if you 'me home on' do not care that the radiation may be doing long term, residents are entitled to be made aware of the research which is out there showing harmful effects. Both for the masts and the phones.

The relevance of the study - The radiation that can cause cancers from operating the mobile phones is the same radiation that can cause cancers in the people living near the phone masts.

Previous phone mast studies found a 3x cancer increase at less than 400 metres from the phone mast and another study found a 4x cancer increase from long term exposure.

Some people also leave their phones on next to their beds. Not a good idea considering the research mentioned in the last posting and also previous research!

Of course, I fully understand that it is embarrasses the mobile industry when these studies are mentioned!


Of course, the mobile industry often uses personal abuse when people challenge them by mentioning research findings that show how unsafe their technology actually is!