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Town Hall's bottled water ban
10:27pm Thursday 28th February 2008
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BOTTLED water has been banned from all council-run buildings in Bolton.
Instead staff and councillors at the Town Hall, local authority offices and schools are being told to drink tap water.
The move was suggested by council leader, Cliff Morris, in a bid to help save the environment and promote the use of the region's tap water supplies.
It was given cross party support at a meeting of the full council this week.
The move will lead to all water coolers which have large plastic bottles on top being removed from council buildings. Smaller bottles, which are sometimes supplied will also be banned. They will be replaced with water fountains which will be connected to the main supply.
Cllr Morris said: "This is a green issue and we felt we should lead by example. We are looking at our recycling rates and are trying to set an example.
"We have a pure water supply and we will be drinking it at the Town Hall as a way of encouraging people to drink our own water."
The measures will be brought in gradually so a full evaluation can be carried out to ensure the tap water is safe to be drunk as there are fears supplies to some of the council's older buildings could be carried through lead pipes.
It is estimated the council spends around £32,000 every year bringing bottled water into its buildings. It buys supplies from Bronte Water, which is bottled from a spring 50 metres under the Pennines in Haworth, Yorkshire.
It is not expected the plans to ban spring water will initially save cash as work will have to be done to connect fountains safely the mains supply.
The move was overwhelmingly supported at the full council meeting.
Leader of Bolton's Liberal Democratic party, Cllr Roger Hayes, said: "Properly filtered and chilled tap water us just as good as anything you ca buy in a bottle and is a lot more environmentally ."
Some councillors had concerns about the addition of fluoride to Bolton's water supply in the future.
Cllr John Walsh, leader of the Conservative Party in Bolton, said: "We fully support this measure on environmental grounds. However, by taking away the choice to drink bottled water, we are forcing people to drink tap water, which in time could contain fluoride. That would be wrong.
"This motion in reality, was nothing but a token gesture with empty sentiment."
But Cllr Morris insisted the issue would be re-examined if fluoride was added to the borough's water.
He said: "We haven't got into the debate about fluoride and at the moment people are happy to drink tap water."
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the hangman, end of the noose says...
11:46pm Thu 28 Feb 08
I give up this country is knackered.
They dont even pay for that water I do
RagReader, Horwich says...
12:21am Fri 29 Feb 08
the hangman wrote:???
40 meetings later at the cost to me over a bottle of bloody tap water. I give up this country is knackered. They dont even pay for that water I do
I don't think you were drinking tap or bottled water before you posted your comment.
RockyReturns, says...
6:55am Fri 29 Feb 08
ID LIKE TO KNOW HOW OTHER COUNCILS CHARGE LESS THAN £200 COUNCIL TAX AND BOLTON IS 5 TIMES MORE EXPENSIVE?
Council tax charges 2008/9
Average Band D (England and Wales)
Council New charge (£) Change (£) Change (%)
North Dorset 97.02 4.62 5.0%
Ceredigion 825.37 39.30 5.0%
Tewkesbury 91.02 4.33 5.0%
Sevenoaks 168.39 8.01 5.0%
Tunbridge Wells 134.79 6.41 5.0%
Runnymede 126.81 6.03 5.0%
Eden 161.59 7.68 5.0%
Huntingdonshire 115.39 5.48 5.0%
Dartford 152.46 7.20 5.0%
Wakefield 1,035.49 48.87 5.0%
Charnwood 119.11 5.62 5.0%
Southend-on-Sea 1,044.57 49.27 5.0%
Leicester 1,113.74 52.53 5.0%
Tonbridge & Malling 159.50 7.52 4.9%
Trafford 1,035.25 48.73 4.9%
Wokingham 1,122.61 52.80 4.9%
Wolverhampton 1,271.87 59.57 4.9%
Teignbridge 142.29 6.65 4.9%
East Dorset 178.27 8.33 4.9%
South Cambridgeshire 107.27 5.01 4.9%
Poole 1,121.67 52.38 4.9%
Tamworth 139.28 6.50 4.9%
Worthing 203.04 9.45 4.9%
East Riding of Yorkshire 1,153.62 53.62 4.9%
Rochford 188.01 8.73 4.9%
South Somerset 142.44 6.59 4.9%
Dudley 1,057.97 48.74 4.8%
Ashford 129.20 5.86 4.8%
Leeds 1,064.37 48.21 4.7%
Chelmsford 151.92 6.84 4.7%
Shepway 228.18 10.24 4.7%
North Hertfordshire 186.41 8.03 4.5%
Exeter 114.98 4.95 4.5%
Purbeck 151.93 6.54 4.5%
Epsom & Ewell 153.10 6.59 4.5%
Vale of Glamorgan 828.45 35.64 4.5%
Salisbury 128.32 5.52 4.5%
South Hams 130.66 5.62 4.5%
South Gloucestershire 1,169.26 50.24 4.5%
Thanet 197.10 8.46 4.5%
Adur 258.34 11.08 4.5%
Mid Sussex 140.94 6.03 4.5%
Mid Devon 175.08 7.48 4.5%
Scarborough 201.13 8.48 4.4%
Waverley 152.28 6.39 4.4%
Bromley 953.33 39.60 4.3%
Barking & Dagenham 1,016.40 42.04 4.3%
Luton 1,079.17 44.29 4.3%
Oxford 246.95 10.03 4.2%
Wealden 163.63 6.60 4.2%
Harrogate 211.23 8.51 4.2%
Winchester 137.43 5.36 4.1%
Southwark 912.14 35.08 4.0%
Redditch 195.28 7.51 4.0%
Castle Point 212.40 8.10 4.0%
Pembrokeshire 638.53 24.26 3.9%
North Norfolk 130.59 4.95 3.9%
Tandridge 180.44 6.78 3.9%
Selby 149.90 5.63 3.9%
Stafford 144.32 5.42 3.9%
Spelthorne 159.80 6.00 3.9%
Gloucester 169.41 6.36 3.9%
Doncaster 1,027.50 38.57 3.9%
Milton Keynes 1,056.35 39.65 3.9%
Babergh 131.16 4.92 3.9%
North Lincolnshire 1,202.40 45.06 3.9%
Fenland 225.90 8.46 3.9%
West Dorset 120.60 4.50 3.9%
Bridgend 961.14 35.79 3.9%
Breckland 64.87 2.40 3.8%
Eastbourne 211.57 7.75 3.8%
East Cambridgeshire 125.82 4.50 3.7%
Rutland 1,360.31 47.27 3.6%
South Oxfordshire 120.24 4.07 3.5%
Cotswold 137.15 4.64 3.5%
Restormel 157.28 5.32 3.5%
Swindon 1,087.49 36.78 3.5%
Swansea 879.25 29.73 3.5%
Hastings 223.62 7.56 3.5%
Cheltenham 177.24 5.99 3.5%
Bury 1,162.75 38.23 3.4%
Isle of Wight 1,215.80 38.43 3.3%
Taunton Deane 132.62 3.87 3.0%
Berwick-upon-Tweed 179.48 5.23 3.0%
Salford 1,287.68 37.51 3.0%
North Cornwall 158.68 4.62 3.0%
South Bedfordshire 158.59 4.60 3.0%
Fareham 136.53 3.96 3.0%
Guildford 138.17 4.00 3.0%
Arun 152.91 4.41 3.0%
Ipswich 298.19 8.57 3.0%
Harrow 1,152.55 33.05 3.0%
Mole Valley 144.54 4.14 2.9%
Broadland 108.76 3.11 2.9%
Reigate & Banstead 184.69 5.28 2.9%
Wrexham 815.25 23.15 2.9%
Harlow 242.10 6.84 2.9%
Rushmoor 174.57 4.93 2.9%
Nuneaton & Bedworth 197.04 5.55 2.9%
Colchester 166.41 4.68 2.9%
North East Lincolnshire 1,208.38 32.91 2.8%
Staffordshire Moorlands 147.94 3.98 2.8%
Coventry 1,245.44 32.74 2.7%
Basingstoke & Deane 99.17 2.42 2.5%
South Shropshire 198.03 4.83 2.5%
Calderdale 1,217.63 29.68 2.5%
Stroud 177.24 4.32 2.5%
Carrick 149.91 3.60 2.5%
Tameside 1,112.38 26.24 2.4%
Cannock Chase 184.44 4.32 2.4%
Forest of Dean 155.26 3.38 2.2%
Eastleigh 133.25 2.74 2.1%
Barrow-in-Furness 193.19 3.79 2.0%
Reading 1,212.66 22.62 1.9%
North Somerset 1,100.78 20.52 1.9%
Sedgemoor 121.38 1.95 1.6%
Windsor and Maidenhead 1,017.88 7.97 0.8%
South Norfolk 129.38 0.06 0.0%
Bolton 1,152.99 0.00 0.0%
Blyth Valley 151.51 0.00 0.0%
Castle Morpeth 176.06 0.00 0.0%
North Shropshire 137.87 0.00 0.0%
Oswestry 197.99 0.00 0.0%
Three Rivers 154.21 (6.10) (3.8%)
Source: CIPFA
RockyReturns, says...
6:58am Fri 29 Feb 08
IS THIS THE CHEAPEST COUNCIL TAX IN THE COUNTRY OR WHAT?
RockyReturns, says...
7:09am Fri 29 Feb 08
RockyReturns, says...
7:19am Fri 29 Feb 08
IF such a small Breckland can charge so little I'm sure areas of Bolton can do it.
Voter, Heaton says...
7:30am Fri 29 Feb 08
Le Roi, says...
7:31am Fri 29 Feb 08
Chaos and in the long run far more expensive.
rivington3, Horwich says...
7:32am Fri 29 Feb 08
burnden4ever, burnden says...
7:43am Fri 29 Feb 08
rivington3 wrote:Wasn't the council tax introduced AFTER the disastrous poll tax which replaced the local rates?
I think it is the size of the place coupled with the facilities. We need to the see the ones which are more expensive to get a balanced view. Also we ended up paying more when we became Gtr. Manchester. In Horwich we pay a bit more still for the Parish Council!!!!!!
In other words we were already part of Greater Manchester (by about 20 years) before the council tax was introduced.
RockyReturns, says...
7:43am Fri 29 Feb 08
Le Roi wrote:Not if we get a private contractor in to collect our rubbish.
Are you pots for rags ? As an example, you could have bin wagons stopping at the boundary between BX and Astley Bridge.
Chaos and in the long run far more expensive.
RockyReturns, says...
7:45am Fri 29 Feb 08
rivington3 wrote:The are about 1% more expensive.
I think it is the size of the place coupled with the facilities. We need to the see the ones which are more expensive to get a balanced view. Also we ended up paying more when we became Gtr. Manchester. In Horwich we pay a bit more still for the Parish Council!!!!!!
97% less expensive.
Bot much choice when your at the top of the tree for costs.
burnden4ever, burnden says...
7:46am Fri 29 Feb 08
RockyReturns wrote:Kings refuse collections from Emmerdale - with the Dingles (not Rovers fans this time - but who knows!!!) behind the wheel!
Le Roi wrote: Are you pots for rags ? As an example, you could have bin wagons stopping at the boundary between BX and Astley Bridge. Chaos and in the long run far more expensive.Not if we get a private contractor in to collect our rubbish.
RockyReturns, says...
7:47am Fri 29 Feb 08
Voter wrote:The price of their food is like our council tax
Will bottled water be banned at Smithills Coaching House?
EXTORTIONATE for what it is.
Le Roi, says...
7:50am Fri 29 Feb 08
So you could have 20 different bin companies on the streets fighting over territories, ignoring the least profitable areas -the bus chaos al over again.
It won't work and it won't happen.
Next daft idea ?
RockyReturns, says...
7:54am Fri 29 Feb 08
£750 council tax charge +
Accounting for empty houses and non payers.
12.75 million revenue.
I'm sure we would have enough money not to employ the dingles
RockyReturns, says...
7:55am Fri 29 Feb 08
Le Roi wrote:No we would only have one.
Not if we get a private contractor in to collect our rubbish.
So you could have 20 different bin companies on the streets fighting over territories, ignoring the least profitable areas -the bus chaos al over again.
It won't work and it won't happen.
Next daft idea ?
Ours collecting our rubbish.
I dont care what other areas do.
If it saves me £250 a year in council tax that will do me.
RockyReturns, says...
8:01am Fri 29 Feb 08
Yet the rest of us have to suffer it..
Nice.
Le Roi, says...
8:03am Fri 29 Feb 08
I dont care what other areas do.
Luckily society and local governance is not based totally on self interest.
That statement speaks volumes about you,as a person and your warped view of the world.
RockyReturns, says...
8:05am Fri 29 Feb 08
RockyReturns, says...
8:05am Fri 29 Feb 08
RockyReturns, says...
8:06am Fri 29 Feb 08
Did you want to use Cllr Sherington as an example?
Do you write Joke books Leroy?
Le Roi, says...
8:08am Fri 29 Feb 08
RockyReturns, says...
8:10am Fri 29 Feb 08
RockyReturns, says...
8:12am Fri 29 Feb 08
Why is that Leroy?
Why does my scribe bother you so?
Le Roi, says...
8:14am Fri 29 Feb 08
Posted by: Le Roi on 8:08am today
Doesn't matter what you say Rocky most of it appears to be half baked drivel.
Never disappoints. Two minutes later.
Posted by: RockyReturns on 8:10am today
Yes Ok Leroy, Burden4eva , zipper or whatever other name it is you wish to use.
RockyReturns, says...
8:15am Fri 29 Feb 08
RockyReturns, says...
8:18am Fri 29 Feb 08
You really know how to frighten people. Did you work the doors in Man chesta kidda?
RockyReturns, says...
8:22am Fri 29 Feb 08
Le Roi, says...
8:22am Fri 29 Feb 08
What has this got to do with bottled water ?
If you can't answer this simple question I suggest you post your ramblings elsewhere.
donmarg, devon says...
8:24am Fri 29 Feb 08
RockyReturns, says...
8:25am Fri 29 Feb 08
Le Roi wrote:Oh you forget your exploits of yesterday Eric. So soon after.
I and none of the other readers have any idea what you are on about.
What has this got to do with bottled water ?
If you can't answer this simple question I suggest you post your ramblings elsewhere.
You whining and whinging about your pretend top boys being upset at us Bolton Fans. US Bolton fans remember it okay.
I just thought I would remind you I'm still waiting.
RockyReturns, says...
8:27am Fri 29 Feb 08
donmarg wrote:THOSE FIGURES are per year Don.
is this per month or year i pay double that per month
£64 per YEAR
scandalous isnt it we are paying EIGHTEEN ye 18 times the lowest council tax payers in the country.
I bet they still get their bins emptied.
RockyReturns, says...
8:32am Fri 29 Feb 08
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RockyReturns, says...
8:32am Fri 29 Feb 08
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RockyReturns, says...
8:33am Fri 29 Feb 08
6rqmj << add these to the end of the web address
The Horwich Observer, Horwich says...
8:34am Fri 29 Feb 08
Going off the subject of water as we have here. I agree with one or two others here.
Why should we pay extra in Horwich when we dont actually receive any better/different service to anyone else in the Borough.
OUTRAGEOUS I TELL YOU IT IS !!!!!
RockyReturns, says...
8:36am Fri 29 Feb 08
The issue IS abotu council Tax as thats why they are trying to cut back on costs so council tax charges dont rise.
WE are one of the highest charged in the country as the table above shows.
They are taking us for fools.
How can one council provide all the same services at EIGHTEEN TIMES less the cost.
as in Breckland
RockyReturns, says...
8:39am Fri 29 Feb 08
"It is not expected the plans to ban spring water will initially save cash as work will have to be done to connect fountains safely the mains supply."
SO its either to save cash or its to help the environment which is it?
With Council taxes at 18 times higher than other towns we should be looking at where else we can save money I'm afraid.
chas, suffolk says...
9:02am Fri 29 Feb 08
Le Roi, says...
9:14am Fri 29 Feb 08
I never buy bottled water, because I find it a waste of money. A can of beer is cheaper.
I knew there had to be an explanation.
RockyReturns, says...
9:17am Fri 29 Feb 08
omniscient, Crawley says...
9:26am Fri 29 Feb 08
RockyReturns, says...
9:28am Fri 29 Feb 08
chas, suffolk says...
9:29am Fri 29 Feb 08
Wouldn't you prefer a can of beer (mainly water) for 50p or a bottle of water for £1 or £2?
RockyReturns, says...
9:31am Fri 29 Feb 08
He managed it through prohibition.
RockyReturns, says...
9:33am Fri 29 Feb 08
No wonder he liked Colonel Saunders in steam room so much
He though he was playing cluedo.
omniscient, Crawley says...
9:34am Fri 29 Feb 08
RockyReturns, says...
9:36am Fri 29 Feb 08
omniscient wrote:I know there will be a rush on for cling film and Leroys local.
I see that commoner Brown, wants to ban plastic bags from supermarkets.
Le Roi, says...
9:40am Fri 29 Feb 08
Not a sensible word in any of them.
I'm off out into the sunshine for a coffee.
chas, suffolk says...
9:40am Fri 29 Feb 08
Don't be silly, this Government never bans anything.
omniscient, Crawley says...
9:42am Fri 29 Feb 08
RockyReturns, says...
9:43am Fri 29 Feb 08
Le Roi wrote:Has your giro come?
50 posts on here, 30 by Rocky.
Not a sensible word in any of them.
I'm off out into the sunshine for a coffee.
chas, suffolk says...
9:44am Fri 29 Feb 08
All of Rocky's words are sensible, but maybe not in the right order.
omniscient, Crawley says...
9:45am Fri 29 Feb 08
Hope that Burnley creature has gone for good.
RockyReturns, says...
9:46am Fri 29 Feb 08
chas, suffolk says...
9:52am Fri 29 Feb 08
RockyReturns, says...
10:09am Fri 29 Feb 08
Le Roi wrote:yes you can go count the people in the queue at the jobcentre instead of peoples posts on internet forums.
50 posts on here, 30 by Rocky.
Not a sensible word in any of them.
I'm off out into the sunshine for a coffee.
How sad are you?
gazz_ball - Supera Moras!, bolton says...
10:21am Fri 29 Feb 08
RockyReturns, says...
10:22am Fri 29 Feb 08
gazz_ball - Supera Moras!, bolton says...
10:31am Fri 29 Feb 08
RockyReturns, says...
10:37am Fri 29 Feb 08
Wanderer Returns, Darwen says...
10:42am Fri 29 Feb 08
RockyReturns, says...
10:44am Fri 29 Feb 08
Wanderer Returns wrote:Are they monthly figures?
That table of council tax costs is totally wrong, the bbc has obviously messed it. Did you seriously think people paid less then £100 per year??? I just checked one of them because it looked so ridiculous - Exeter £114.98 on that table. Actual council tax for band D in Exeter - £1329.14. Does that make you feel any better?
omniscient, Crawley says...
10:46am Fri 29 Feb 08
RockyReturns, says...
10:47am Fri 29 Feb 08
Wanderer Returns wrote:better complain to the BBC them not me. BBC said those were the figures.
That table of council tax costs is totally wrong, the bbc has obviously messed it. Did you seriously think people paid less then £100 per year??? I just checked one of them because it looked so ridiculous - Exeter £114.98 on that table. Actual council tax for band D in Exeter - £1329.14. Does that make you feel any better?
I thought the BBC were always factually correct?
gazz_ball - Supera Moras!, bolton says...
10:51am Fri 29 Feb 08
gazz_ball - Supera Moras!, bolton says...
10:51am Fri 29 Feb 08
Wanderer Returns, Darwen says...
10:52am Fri 29 Feb 08
Emperors new clothes anyone?
Sun Tzu, says...
10:54am Fri 29 Feb 08
When taken as a whole, over all the national and local government buildings, quangos and state funded projects. I wonder just how many hospitals or other useful facilities they could have provided in place of this needless extravagance.
30 years ago, when I worked in engineering. Buying a bottle of water would have been up there with being sent for a long stand, a bucket of compression or a quarter of chocolate contraceptives.
Wanderer Returns, Darwen says...
11:05am Fri 29 Feb 08
Tubby Scruff, says...
11:20am Fri 29 Feb 08
How will this affect the fluoride debate? Will the zombies in the Town Hall become high as kites, the prozac effect?
The fact is, nobody has ever challenged Bolton Council to give a breakdown of how they're good value as claimed.
Overall from my own studies, Bolton is a very expensive place to live, house prices are higher, poll tax, higher and some of the most hare brained schemes I've ever witnessed.
kieanders, bolton says...
2:37pm Fri 29 Feb 08
RockyReturns wrote:
Howrich OB... The issue IS abotu council Tax as thats why they are trying to cut back on costs so council tax charges dont rise. WE are one of the highest charged in the country as the table above shows. They are taking us for fools. How can one council provide all the same services at EIGHTEEN TIMES less the cost. as in Breckland
Breckland residents will still be paying the lowest district council tax in the country, as a result of todays council tax setting by Breckland Council. On your council tax bill, the Breckland District element will account for only 4% of the total bill. For example, on a standard Band D council tax bill, only £61.98 out of a total charge of £1,384.21 will go to Breckland Council. Of the remainder, the County Council will account for 79%; the Norfolk Police Authority 13%, and the average town and parish council share will equate to 4%.
not as attractive when all the elements are considered! glad we have a metropolitan council, and not a county one!
burnden4ever, burnden says...
3:35pm Fri 29 Feb 08
omniscient wrote:Guess who's back - back in town!!!!
Chas Hope that Burnley creature has gone for good.
So do you know what SWIFT and MIDAS are yet????
I waited at the 3 crowns all evening, and you didn't turn up!!!
CHICKEN!!
burnden4ever, burnden says...
3:40pm Fri 29 Feb 08
This can be taken 2 ways. Firstly, tehre was a report out a few weeks ago - as mentioned on Watchdog as well - advising that bottled water is neither better or worse than tap water! The second way, doesn't this infringe on the human right of choice for its employees. Choice of either tap or bottled.
I could understand it if they stopped selling/providing it to their staff but to ban them from takeing in bottled water is hilarious.
Is this another cae of Morris wanting to become the newest communist dictator - do as I say or else!! - He already ignores the voices of the majority (just as much as any other dictator).
Sooner these bafoons are gone and replaced by people who actually care about the populous and the town the better (but even at the locals if they do go, they will be replaced by more of the same ilk!)
burnden4ever, burnden says...
3:42pm Fri 29 Feb 08
chas wrote:As said in previous post - Amosc is on vacation! Anyway, isn't Suffolk still further south than Amstelveen - according to ordnance survey maps!
Where's that Southerner from Holland?
Inspector Doppler, sleuth 1972 says...
4:05pm Fri 29 Feb 08
Now please calm down Sir, a little advice Sir, please leave.
gazz_ball - Supera Moras!, bolton says...
4:09pm Fri 29 Feb 08
Come on you white men...
burnden4ever, burnden says...
4:26pm Fri 29 Feb 08
Inspector Doppler wrote:Zimmy - you are a no1 fan of mine.
Mr Burnden Now please calm down Sir, a little advice Sir, please leave.
Your humour has me in stitches and most of all you make me smile for the whole day at the way you carry on with you torrential abuse against people who have different views to yourself.
A LAUGH
Must go - a Belgian beer is ready to be supped at my local!
Toodle pips!
Le Roi, says...
4:32pm Fri 29 Feb 08
Posted by: RockyReturns on 10:44am today
Wanderer Returns wrote:
That table of council tax costs is totally wrong, the bbc has obviously messed it. Did you seriously think people paid less then £100 per year??? I just checked one of them because it looked so ridiculous - Exeter £114.98 on that table. Actual council tax for band D in Exeter - £1329.14. Does that make you feel any better?
Are they monthly figures?
So Rocky provides us all with a totally wrong set of figures, bases another daft argument around false information...then blames the BBC.
You are a complete embarrassment.
gazz_ball - Supera Moras!, bolton says...
4:35pm Fri 29 Feb 08
I have a neighbour who supports utd but has never been to a game but watches them on TV, typical utd fan I'd say.
Inspector Doppler, sleuth 1972 says...
4:56pm Fri 29 Feb 08
Zimmy - you are a no1 fan of mine.
Your humour has me in stitches and most of all you make me smile for the whole day at the way you carry on with you torrential abuse against people who have different views to yourself.
A LAUGH
Must go - a Belgian beer is ready to be supped at my local!
Toodle pips!
I do believe you are troubled Sir.
Le Roi, says...
5:05pm Fri 29 Feb 08
Thats rich, a united fan calling someone an embarrassment. How can you justify supporting a team that all the glory seekers follow? Now that is embarrassing.
You fool, you only go to games when it's a fiver -what sort of fan are you ?
I'm a season ticket holder and have been for years so don't come out with cliches about United fans.
Nice to see you sticking up for the other part time Bolton goer as he makes a ti.t of himself once again.
numyead, bolton says...
5:40pm Fri 29 Feb 08
who remembers the Hash Cliff made of Bolton college a few years ago?
so what do they do ??
make him leader of the council.
you couldnt make it up
empty bottles and empty gestures, Cliff bans bottled water and he thinks hes the next AL Gore.
me, Bolton says...
7:21pm Fri 29 Feb 08
kieanders wrote:The figures given earlier are just sloppy journalism.
RockyReturns wrote:
Howrich OB... The issue IS abotu council Tax as thats why they are trying to cut back on costs so council tax charges dont rise. WE are one of the highest charged in the country as the table above shows. They are taking us for fools. How can one council provide all the same services at EIGHTEEN TIMES less the cost. as in BrecklandBreckland residents will still be paying the lowest district council tax in the country, as a result of todays council tax setting by Breckland Council. On your council tax bill, the Breckland District element will account for only 4% of the total bill. For example, on a standard Band D council tax bill, only £61.98 out of a total charge of £1,384.21 will go to Breckland Council. Of the remainder, the County Council will account for 79%; the Norfolk Police Authority 13%, and the average town and parish council share will equate to 4%.
not as attractive when all the elements are considered! glad we have a metropolitan council, and not a county one!
Breckland Council provides nowhere the same amount of services as Bolton. It is a district council so all education and social care is provided by NorfolK County Council.
From Breckland's own website it says a Band D resident pays £1384.21 a year. £61.98 goes to Breckland with the rest to Norfolk County council and the police and other services in that area.
A Band D resident in Bolton, will from April, pay £1,327.57 a year.
So Bolton is in fact £57 cheaper not 18 times more expensive.
You can only compare Bolton against other metropolitan, or unitary, not against district councils.
The table above is completely misleading.
Le Roi, says...
8:17pm Fri 29 Feb 08
The table above is completely misleading.
The table is not misleading it's the numpty Rocky who failed to research the issue properly.
You took the trouble to do so and point out the inadequacies and stupidity of his statement.
We thank you.
Given his serial financial and political mistakes is it any wonder that Rocky achieved a massive 0.3% vote when he stood for Parliament ?
nomoreerica, eradicate cronies HQ says...
8:49pm Fri 29 Feb 08
The table is not misleading it's the numpty Rocky who failed to research the issue properly.
You took the trouble to do so and point out the inadequacies and stupidity of his statement.
We thank you.
Given his serial financial and political mistakes is it any wonder that Rocky achieved a massive 0.3% vote when he stood for Parliament ?
I'm not fooled old son.
squeak, bolton says...
9:12pm Fri 29 Feb 08
This is about the water coolers in offices and meeting rooms being changed - where possible then coolers attached to the mains will be installed instead. Water in these coolers also has more bacteria than out of your tap - the cold bit is sat there - and may have been sat there for a week or so since the last person used it. A friend with cancer was told not to drink from them due to increased risk of infection. The article is not banning staff from taking own bottles in!
RockyReturns, says...
11:41pm Fri 29 Feb 08
Le Roi wrote:So the times your claimed toy were in the press box were lies then?
Ball wrote
Thats rich, a united fan calling someone an embarrassment. How can you justify supporting a team that all the glory seekers follow? Now that is embarrassing.
You fool, you only go to games when it's a fiver -what sort of fan are you ?
I'm a season ticket holder and have been for years so don't come out with cliches about United fans.
Nice to see you sticking up for the other part time Bolton goer as he makes a ti.t of himself once again.
You have a season ticket rather than invites from high profile socialites.
Eric you are are LIAR.
Oh and the table is misleading it isn't my fault BBC published it like that. I took it how it was displayed.
Now isn't it time for your cocoa?
RockyReturns, says...
11:45pm Fri 29 Feb 08
nomoreerica wrote:LEROY.
Erica wrote
The table is not misleading it's the numpty Rocky who failed to research the issue properly.
You took the trouble to do so and point out the inadequacies and stupidity of his statement.
We thank you.
Given his serial financial and political mistakes is it any wonder that Rocky achieved a massive 0.3% vote when he stood for Parliament ?
I'm not fooled old son.
Liek with football you haven't a clue what you are talking about.
Let me guess you probably just support Tottenham , your father died recently and you weren't man enough to say you were sorry for being such a little Two hat in childhood.
Brian Jackson, Pendle says...
1:00am Sat 1 Mar 08
Le Roi, says...
7:52am Sat 1 Mar 08
You have a season ticket rather than invites from high profile socialites.
Once again Rocky gets it wrong.
I have a season ticket at United but get freebies at other grounds like T'Reebok from media folk and people in the game.
RockyReturns, says...
8:04am Sat 1 Mar 08
Le Roi wrote:Liar.
You have a season ticket rather than invites from high profile socialites.
Once again Rocky gets it wrong.
I have a season ticket at United but get freebies at other grounds like T'Reebok from media folk and people in the game.
So your media people cant swing you into the rented ground in salford then?
Yeah right Eric pull the other goat udder.
Oh and the data was published by The BBC it isnt in fact WRONG It has just been misrepresented on their website.
Fool as well as a liar.
RockyReturns, says...
8:07am Sat 1 Mar 08
RockyReturns, says...
8:10am Sat 1 Mar 08
RockyReturns, says...
8:22am Sat 1 Mar 08
Ludicrous
Give me an E
Engaging
Give me an R
Ridiculous
Give me an O
Obsessive
Give me and I
Imbecile
Le Roi, says...
8:28am Sat 1 Mar 08
We're having organic juice, avocado,olives and fresh bread on the balcony.
Sunny again but cool at the moment....get pleasantly warm later.
RockyReturns, says...
8:37am Sat 1 Mar 08
Show the complete lack of depth of your knowledge.
Like I said complete and utter imbecile.
Goats will drink anything.
Mind You she does need to lose a bit of weight and that white lightning advocado can play havoc with the endometriosis.
RockyReturns, says...
8:38am Sat 1 Mar 08
Le Roi, says...
9:06am Sat 1 Mar 08
Give me an E
Engaging
Sweet
RockyReturns, says...
10:09am Sat 1 Mar 08
Ludicrously Engaging Ridiculous Obsessive Imbecile
or
LE ROI for short.
burnden4ever, burnden says...
10:30am Sat 1 Mar 08
Inspector Doppler wrote:It has to be you, Zimmy, as you always want the last word whether the person is there or not!
Mr Burnden wroteZimmy - you are a no1 fan of mine. Your humour has me in stitches and most of all you make me smile for the whole day at the way you carry on with you torrential abuse against people who have different views to yourself. A LAUGH Must go - a Belgian beer is ready to be supped at my local! Toodle pips!I do believe you are troubled Sir.
Lovin it like that!
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RockyReturns, says...
11:07pm Thu 28 Feb 08
Glad they believe in all being equal